Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 861 - Bella is Bisexual Unicorn who Hooks up w/Couples and Women

Episode Date: July 1, 2024

Bella is a bisexual unicorn who hooks up with couples and women and she called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including how she found out her husband was cheating on her, how... she wound up hooking up with her best girl friend and exactly what went down, how and why she decided to be a unicorn after she got divorced, the first couple she hooked up with and exactly what went down with them, the stuff that some couples pull that turn her off, the second couple she hooked up with and what went down with them, the lesbian she hooked up and what exactly went down between them, their threesome with another guy and the other things they do together, how she enjoys orgasm denial, how and why she’s down being solo poly and what that means, the mffff she had with her new gf and what went down, how she would up having feelings for the lesbian and how they wound up living together plus a whole lot more. Here is link to buy the SQUIRTING WAND on Amazon I spoke about: https://amzn.to/3tJt6vw **To see anonymous pics of BELLA plus see anonymous pics of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous Podcast. Strictly Anonymous Podcast. Conversations with online strangers. We place ads online. The Craigslist is definitely like the gift that keeps on giving. Real people respond. You go to Singapore, or Thailand. You can't not do it.
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Starting point is 00:02:23 We can't sell at any time. It's patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast. I also wanted to tell you about sdc.com. That is the Swinger Lifestyle Dating app that I recommend the most now. And I get to offer all of my listeners a free trial. That's SDC.com. Use my code 37712 or just go to the description and click on a link and you're going to get a free trial of SDC. And what's great about SDC is it's not just a hookup app where you're going to find other like-minded hot people. It's also a place where you're going to get to be in the know of all the lifestyle events and meet and greets and swingers parties and all that good stuff in your area. And you're going to get a free trial. So just go to the description, click on the SDC link or go to STC.com and put in my code 37712. Now, I did beg for reviews recently because it was like really close to 1,000 and so many people listened. I've never begged before. I always felt weird about it. But now I just should do it all the time because I got so many people giving me really
Starting point is 00:03:25 nice reviews. Thank you to everyone that wrote a review. Thank you to everyone who just pressed five stars. I saw I got a ton of them. So keep doing. I read all of the reviews and I love them. So thank you for that. And keep doing it. Like I said, even if you can't write a view, just press five stars. So today I have on Bella. Bella has a very super interesting story. She's one of those religious girls that got married, really young, and then left her marriage and started living it up. And she is a real unicorn. Of course, as a unicorn, she's had a lot of success and hooked up with a lot of couples and done a lot of things. She's also very into women. up with a lot of women. She goes into all of that. She considers herself Polly. She's very into
Starting point is 00:04:03 bye guys. She is currently living with a chick. She talks about how she met her, how they wound up living together, who they fuck around with because they're all very open. And she's, like I said, has had a lot of experiences with couples. She digs that. She loves being a unicorn. She also loves hanging out. Like I said, with women. And we talk all about it. And she does love being Polly. And she explains exactly what Polly means to her and how she sets up her Polly life. Like I said, was a young girl who was like Mormon and then changed and now she's living it up. She couldn't be happier. So it's a super interesting story.
Starting point is 00:04:37 I do have hot picks of her over on my Patreon. Patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast. Anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Bella. Hi, Bella. Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? I'm doing good, Kathy. Thank you for having me.
Starting point is 00:04:51 No, thank you for coming on. You sound like you have a very interesting story. I do know you have an ex-husband. and now you're like a unicorn. You're into chicks, that's for sure. And you had a very hot hookup with one of your great friends. I think you said while you were married. And now you enjoy being a unicorn to couples and you have some stories about that.
Starting point is 00:05:11 So I don't know. Where should we start? Should we start like when you were married? And did you and your husband like wind up booking up with your friend? Or was that like a cheating scenario? So my life is kind of a weird shit show. So I grew up really conservative, religion family and was like, I don't know what this shit is, but okay, this is what you're doing
Starting point is 00:05:32 with it. So I got married at like 20 years old. And I was married for seven years. And so he, when him and I were married, there's a lot of like psychological abuse that was happening. But part of that was he would bring in his fantasies. And then that religious shame would like, never mind, never mind. So he had talked about being bisexual and wanting to hook up with guys. Oh, interesting. Okay. He did. Yeah. So we would, we would, He did. Yeah. So we would like role play that sometimes.
Starting point is 00:06:01 We played around with like prostate massagers every once in a while. But he was always, I don't know, he was always so back and forth, right? Where it would be. This is what I want. Never mind. Never mind. And I was like, okay, well, I don't believe in this bullshit church stuff anyway. So, okay, fine.
Starting point is 00:06:14 But I'm not going to cheat. I'm not a cheater. Well, then a couple of years down the road, I had my daughter and he tells me, hey, six months ago when she was three months old, I went out and met up with a girl for a blowjob. But nothing happened. Don't worry about it. Well, a blow job happened though, right?
Starting point is 00:06:30 Or should she not give him the load? Nothing happened. Nothing happened. Just a blow job. Come on. Classic husband's story. But he told you? I'm surprised he told you.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Yeah. Well, that was his kind of, again, like with his fucking guilt would be like six months later, oh, by the way, this thing happened. And so I was big of a deal. And I have it covered, which was so. What do you mean I have it covered? Yeah. I've already fixed it.
Starting point is 00:06:56 I already saw. talking to them, whatever it was. Right, but I need to tell you, I got to get my guilt out so I'm going to ruin your fucking day. I think there's something so selfish about that. Right. Yeah, totally. You had no idea, right?
Starting point is 00:07:09 No idea. You've gone away with it, stop free. Take your fucking blowjob and your guilt and live with it. That's your consequences. Don't dump that shit onto somebody else. It's so rude. I don't know why people think that that's so noble because it's fucking not. Selfish.
Starting point is 00:07:22 It's not. Yeah. Especially not at that point when it's not, here's evidence or anything. It's just. Shut it down. No big deal. Nothing's going on anymore. But I got to tell you to make myself feel better. But I want you to feel it. Yeah. Yeah. No, seriously. That's what it's, it's really selfish. It's very self-serving. He wasn't doing it for you. Because why, like, what does that do for you? Except make you want to fucking leave him and not trust him. Terrible. Okay, go on. And I think at that point he knew I wasn't going to leave him. But that was kind of, that was one of the big ruptures that broke me. So I, like, told him to leave. He went and stayed with a brother out of town for, couple days and that was when my friend came over. Oh, your girlfriends. Yeah, my girlfriend. So
Starting point is 00:08:02 her and I had known each other. She was a couple years older than me. I'd known her since I was like 16. We hung out a few times. She had done my hair for years. Nothing. Nothing had really happened. Nothing crossed over. And then I found out, I found out after the fact between my ex and this girlfriend that they had talked about her and I hooking up a couple of times. And they had hinted around it. Interesting. Yeah. Why were you next? Never in the no. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Oh, my God. So before she comes over, apparently she sends him a text. Like, don't worry, I'm going to fix it. So she comes over. I had never smoked. Like, I'm a stoner for sure, but I had never smoked, like, one of the vape pens of carts. Uh-huh. And those things are fucking strong.
Starting point is 00:08:45 I don't know if you've ever smoked though. It's intense, and it hits really quickly. Yeah. So her and I hung out. I was hitting that pen all night long. and was so gone, so high. And of course, like, I'm fucking a mess. I'm crying.
Starting point is 00:09:02 I'm like, I'm not enough. He doesn't love me. I have my baby. I don't know what to do. So she's holding me. She's like, it's going to be fine. It's going to be fine. We go and get in bed eventually.
Starting point is 00:09:12 And we just started slowly spooning each other. Mm-hmm. And like, like, my heart was beating out of my chest. I was like, wait, I think a robot took up. And she's hot. Like, she had some nice kitties. She's had three kids, but you wouldn't know that. She was in good shape.
Starting point is 00:09:28 And so I think she kissed me first. Like we turned around and she kissed me first. And it was so intense and so immediate. We both went down on each other. It was super hot. And then the next day, my ex was coming home. So I'm like spilling my guests. And I'm like, okay, I fucked her.
Starting point is 00:09:47 I don't want to do that anymore. Sorry. I fucked up. And he went to town on me. like an anger or like sexually? I was confused. No, no. You never know what your husband.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Okay. So first you pissed, right? He's like, I have to get a divorce, not doing this. Well, then over the next several years before we actually got divorced, he kept pulling it up as a whirlplane scenario. Of course. He had talked about it with her. He knew she was going over there to bang you that night.
Starting point is 00:10:15 She said, don't worry, I'm going to fix this. Was that quote unquote fix this? Uh-huh. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. So her and I hooked up, I think probably two more times, but it wasn't until after I was divorced. And she was married. And she did the same thing, right? And it's like, oh my God, that's so hot.
Starting point is 00:10:34 You guys should do it again, but you do it in front of us. So her and I kind of got into a weird spot for a while because both of our husbands are fucking telling us this shit. So we didn't really talk to each other for a minute. And then after I got divorced, her and I hung out a couple more times, did like girls night where it's a lot more low key. And I think that like, like looking back when I was a kid, I was obsessed with girls. I didn't see it like that. I couldn't figure it out, right? I was like, I'm not jealous, but oh, my God, I love, I just want to look at her.
Starting point is 00:11:05 I was like, I don't want to be her, but there's just something that is so beautiful. I just want to be around it. Oh, my God, I'm obsessed. Interesting. Okay. Yeah, so then after I got divorced, that was a messy shit show. And then I kind of decided, okay, I don't want to get married. I've got my daughter, fucking done.
Starting point is 00:11:25 I don't really think I'm in it for relationships anyways. and I just started sleeping around essentially getting friends with benefits. Are you now looking for girls after your relationship ended? So after my relationship ended, I didn't immediately start dating women on their own. Weirdly enough, it felt way more safe to date couples. Yeah, no, I know. That's what you were into, right? Being a unicorn, when did you do that?
Starting point is 00:11:53 When did I do that? Yeah. So probably, I don't know, two months after. my divorce, I found this couple on Tinder. I was like, okay, yeah, they look, they look fun. She's cute. She's blonde, little. He's Mexican.
Starting point is 00:12:07 I'm into this. And I don't, I think, honestly, I was scared of women for a long time. What do you mean? It's a totally different thing, right? Getting ready for a date with a girl is completely different than getting ready for a date with a guy. In what sense? Eyeliner, like everything. Why?
Starting point is 00:12:26 I don't understand. I've never been on a date with a girl. also explain what you mean by that. So it's like when you're going out with your girlfriends, right? Like you're kind of checking in, you're getting dressed up, you're like making sure you're good to go. And it's kind of that same like thing. If you go on a date with a guy and like your top doesn't match or I don't know, your shoes don't look with that off or whatever. But he's not going to notice.
Starting point is 00:12:46 But a girl's going to clothe that immediately. Oh, you feel more pressure with the girl. Yeah. Yeah. Want to be as rock hard as it is hot outside? Well, then you need to get yourself some blue chew. Blue Chew is unique online service that delivered a chewable tablet at a fraction of the cost. And the good news is it's super easy to get.
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Starting point is 00:14:49 Okay, we're trying that to harass each other. It's just, the tension just gets so weird. And when there's a husband there who has full permission to fuck around in front of his wife, he's usually over the top. So he's way more on top about initiating. And then the wife is happy to follow. And I don't know, it just feels like it goes smoother. But I think definitely, so that first couple that I hooked up with, they didn't tell me. And I do different things now with couples.
Starting point is 00:15:13 But I think we went to a bar, got a drink. We talked for a little while. And I had never, since I hadn't ever been with a couple, I'm like trying to sort out. Right. Like, why are you doing this? And it's because she, he wants to do this. Let's make sure there's nothing weird happening. Well, then I get to their, we go back to their place.
Starting point is 00:15:31 I'm feeling it. So we go back to their place. And they are like, they don't want to drink. They don't want to smoke. There's no music and all the lights are on. And I'm like, okay. Bad vibe. they don't understand how to set the mood.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Yes. Some people just don't get it. They don't. And it was so awkward. And now I have a rule about that. But she had kind of hinted. I didn't know that I like to see him with women for a long time. But now that's really what I like.
Starting point is 00:16:00 We've been together for five years. And they weren't married. They were dating. That's where they had fallen into. And she didn't describe herself as a cook queen. And I didn't know that term. the time but now in hindsight I know that because I think I fooled around with them twice and both times her thing was that she wanted to go out to the bathroom and then he would start making out
Starting point is 00:16:19 with me and she would come back and see it right but they didn't tell me that the first time so then I'm sitting there he's making moves as she walks away and I'm like okay this must be sanctioned but also I'm not trying to get in a situation where I'm in the middle of it right right you feel for the girl you're like thinking like what if she doesn't know like this is fucked up, right? Yeah. And I'm like, oh, you're waiting until she leaves. I don't know. That feels kind of suspicious. But again, just stuff that could have been avoided had they just told me, hey, this is our specific kink. This is what we like to do. It was super hot, though. So when she comes back, him and I are making out and he started to go down on me. And then she started
Starting point is 00:16:55 making out with me. And that was the thing that was like cemented being a unicorn in my brain, I think, because that, like, I can have a visual right now. It was so fucking hot. She had her nipples pierced she was tattooed so she was making out with me putting her tits on mine he's like i'm looking down between but her and i and i can see his mouth on me it was so fucking hot just being in the middle i'm leo so i think i also like that attention of it yeah i'm the new one and they've already had their established dynamic so it's fun right because they're both super into my body and that's really fun for me obviously so he he had a tiny dick i i i i say I didn't love that, but he was super good with toys and they love to play with toys. So that was
Starting point is 00:17:42 fun. And I'm multi-orgasmic. So I will just keep coming. And so that's always fun for whatever guy, because they're fucking obsessed with that. Yeah, totally. So, I don't know, I probably came five or six times. He fucked her. And did you enjoy watching that yourself? Yeah. Yeah. I really like watching. So after that second time, I was like, I can't do it again. The lights were on. There was no music. There's no mood set and the fun. The sex was fun, but. Did you go down on her and all that kind of stuff? And this time you have, having orgasms and all that stuff with her as well. Yeah. So I think he was fucking me while I went down on her. I couldn't really feel him, which was a bummer. But now I know that, like, I learned after the fact that they only fuck with fuck, love.
Starting point is 00:18:35 and all kinds of stuff. So that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, I would be fine. So no more that couple, but that was your first experience. But you dug it. That was like the thing for you. Because I got to tell you, I get a lot of couples emailing me, and I just taped a couple recently that are always looking for unicorns and blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Everyone's looking for you. You're the unicorn. Do you find that you just get hit up on those apps like constantly? And they're like so amazed that you actually show up because it's hard to find someone like you. Yeah, and that's, it's been really interesting because when I got divorced, I definitely had walked out of it with this ugly duckling syndrome. Because of your guy putting you down so much probably. You had low self-esteem. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Yeah, exactly. He was always cheating or he was always like sexting ex-girlfriends or whatever bullshit. So I'm leaving the marriage. Okay, maybe, I don't know where I'm at in the dating field, right? And of course, I was 20 when I got married. So Tinder wasn't a thing when I got married. So I'm doing all that for the first time. And I decided to go at it with, I am just going to pick the people that I think are too hot to fuck me.
Starting point is 00:19:39 And then I fucked all of them. Really? You went out of your league. That doesn't sound like someone with low self-esteem. Well, I think the thing was because I was so, I'm not looking for a relationship. I'm not trying to date anybody. Yeah, you're like, who cares? Yeah, that's great.
Starting point is 00:19:54 So you have that couple. You dig them. And now you're like, oh, I want to be a unicorn. This is for me. I don't want a relationship. And you're just going to go after the hottest couples that. send you their picks. Yep. Yeah. And like you're saying
Starting point is 00:20:07 with dating apps, like that's exactly what happened was every time I'm on like now, pretty much only his field. I delete them every single time someone says their name I deleted from my thing because they gave me the fucking run around and wasted my time with being a sponsor. They could go fuck themselves. But anyway,
Starting point is 00:20:23 I delete that name out. Yeah, fuck them. Anyway, I say SDC. That's who I promote on my show. But anyway, go on. I need to check them out, honestly. Well, SDC, you could get, just use my link and you'll get a free 14-day trial. And if you don't like, you don't have to sign up. So you could check that out for free with my link. Anyway, go on.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Well, I'm sure you do find though anywhere you go because you're the unicorn. Yeah. And it's a very interesting, I don't know, dynamic because I listen to your show all the time. And I know that a lot of like Swinger specifically, that's one of their rules, right? is like you go talk to the wife or you go talk to the husband or whatever. But it's funny because like I'm 29 and everyone that is my age, whether they're poly or not, it's a very different feel. It's no, you go talk directly to whoever you want to have sex with.
Starting point is 00:21:14 There isn't a possession part of it. And it's been really interesting as a unicorn because some couples are really good at knowing a separation and knowing how to treat you like a person and not a toy. And some people are not like, it's hot to be a toy. It's not hot to be a toy before you're in bed and they don't even know you. But I've had some weird situations before I even meet up with people where they're bullshit. For example, I had this couple.
Starting point is 00:21:36 I started talking to the girl online and she was like, I want to surprise my guy. I want him to come home and we'll be hanging out and then we'll fuck him. And people like to run their unicorn fantasies by me all the time. So that was great. I was totally on board with it. And then she gives me her cell number and it's so obviously a fucking. dude texting me. Oh, you're kidding.
Starting point is 00:22:00 So it was bullshit the whole thing? Well, I don't think it was bullshit. I think their thing was that she was texting me first and then she was going to have him text me and they were going to get off on that. And I wasn't going to know that it was him and I wasn't going to know that they were both in on it together. Just fucking be honest with people. Don't switch numbers and pull shit like that and try and like, like if it's a fantasy
Starting point is 00:22:21 to be surprised, talk about that fucking fantasy because guaranteed women will want to play that out with you. but when you're a single woman going to play with two other people, it is a safety concern. And so when they start off lying like that, there's no fucking way. Yeah, for sure. So did you ever, you didn't hook up with them? No, no. In fact, I texted them and said, look, I can tell this is what's going on just so you know,
Starting point is 00:22:42 don't do this again to anybody else because it would have been fun to fuck around with you. And that's definitely not happening. And now you lose. Yeah. Yeah, that's what happens. Don't do it. Okay. Okay, so who's the next couple that you hook up with after that first couple?
Starting point is 00:22:55 So the next couple that I hooked up with, oh my God, let me think. It was probably, so I have this couple who I still see to this day. I think it was them. They're, he's so hot. He's like six, four, huge dick, like very athletic. They're like Colorado weed people. Mm-hmm. And she's.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Colorado weed people. Guys in Colorado are really hot, okay, by the way. That's what I think, right? Isn't that true? Like the bikers? They're all athletic. I don't know what it is, the outdoorsiness of them all, but they're like the hottest guys in Colorado for some reasons. For real.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Not here in New York City, trust me. And they're all really, I don't know, they're all really laid back. So I met this couple, and we had matched probably, I don't know, six months, so it took a while for me to actually get around to meeting them. What was she like? She was tall too, so I'm probably 5'8. And she's probably five, nine, a little bit taller than me, like long brown hair. She's really lean to, really, really nice tits.
Starting point is 00:24:02 And she's multi-argasmic as well. So the first time that we started fooling around with each other, trying to remember. Oh, yeah, I went up to, so I went up, they have this cabin up in the woods, right? So I meet up with them in town. We get chatting. I go up to their place. And she, we start smoking weed. We start hanging out.
Starting point is 00:24:22 She comes over and sits on my lap. and they start making out with her on my lap. And I told you, I love watching. I love that. And so they start making out of my lap. And she, I think she took her shirt off anyways. Her nipples were fucking incredible. And he, they like to tie me down.
Starting point is 00:24:45 She likes to be tied down. So her and I went down on each other and made each other come, I don't even know how many times. And his favorite way to fuck me still is, face it down in her pussy ass up and him behind me yeah yeah yeah how old are they they're probably 30 32 oh okay so they're young couple too yeah yeah i'd say the majority of people that i mess around with around that age there definitely are some older some older couples i don't know 40s 50s i don't have like yeah i don't have an age range right like i'm a switch so i love to try new things
Starting point is 00:25:24 I love to fuck around other people's fantasies. Like I have, I think my brain, it's funny because people are always talking on your show about like women having fantasies or not. And I feel like I, and maybe other women are the same way. I have a couple of sexual fantasies, but it's more so I want to know what other people's are and I want to fuck around and theirs. That's interesting. That's your thing. Yeah, yeah. I love playing out other people's like role plays.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Like when people hit me up and say, hey, we want a unicorn experience. This is, you know, special occasion of birthday, whatever. I'm all over that because there's always something fun in it. So whether it's like tying the guy up or like right now I really want. So I have a girlfriend right now. We're non-monogamous and her and I really want to flow around with guys. And I haven't watched her peg a guy yet. And I really, really want that.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Interesting. And how did you meet that girl? We're kind of all over the place, but that's okay. I still want to go back to this hot couple that you're still banging to this day. But this girl, how did you meet her online? Yep. So I met her online last summer. And I think it was probably right before. It was a little bit after I started feeling good about just dating women singly and feeling good about what I was looking for. So I find her, she's Puerto Rican Haitian gorgeous, great ass. And the first night she comes over, she brings Molly, which I don't, I don't love Molly. I've done it twice. But for whatever reason, I'm like, yeah, oh, my God, you saw. Yeah, let's do Molly. Let's see. And you met her as a like a girl girl hookup situation, right? That's how you met her online.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Like this is like a check. I'm looking to hook up with a chick kind of thing. Yeah. And she had a girlfriend at the time that she was living with. And it was so funny because I had asked her, can you come up a night early? Because I like I can't wait. I just I want to see. We were texting and it was getting really hot.
Starting point is 00:27:15 And before she came up, she said, look, I don't want to be that guy. But I'm going to take a drive. So we're going to, are we going to full around? Are we actually doing something? That's cool. She didn't want to drive all the way there for a cup of coffee. Exactly. Exactly. So we were both on the same page from the get-go of hookup buddies. And then that just progressed because the sexual chemistry between us is so intense. And we were really fooling around with other people and meeting other people and couples that we just kind of fell into this relationship.
Starting point is 00:27:46 I don't know. I don't even know what kind of a relationship I'm in, but it's fun. But what happened the first time you hooked up with her? So the first time I hook up with her, she came over. We had Molly, we took Molly, we're hanging out, waiting for it to kick in. I think I'm more dominant with women, and she's a switch too, but I, like, leaned in to kind of go, to kind of kiss her, and she leaned away from me. So I felt, okay, that's all right. I can let her come at me. Well, within five minutes, she had picked me up and put me on the counter.
Starting point is 00:28:17 And we were making out going crazy. So we came upstairs. We didn't have a strap on or anything, so I think that. first night we were like scissoring each other and going down on each other and we were up until 5 a.m. just making pancakes and then fucking in between talking to know each other. Interesting. That must have been the Molly. Yeah. Well, and that's the thing too is when you have sex with a woman, right? It's not okay. He came tonight. I have to wait 45 minutes. Like you're just going to keep going. Well, if you're all multi-orgasmic, I need to wait in between 20 minutes.
Starting point is 00:28:54 at least. Yeah. Exactly. So, okay, let's stop and get some snacks and re-stool, and then we'll get back into it. Right. Okay. And that's the fun part for me about having sex with women is there isn't that endpoint. And sometimes that's the only downside, I think, with that couple is that when guys hit
Starting point is 00:29:11 that endpoint first and then the wife and I are like, well, we wanted to, okay, I guess we're done. Because he's done? Yeah, because it's been two hours and we're like, well, we could keep going, but okay, you came. Oh, okay, fine. Right. But with that girl, you guys were like, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:29:24 at all night. All night, all night. And then she started coming up like once a week, twice a week. And we, we would just fuck all night long. And then she would go to work the next morning at 7 a.m. It was always, it was always hot. She was the first girl that fucked me with a strap on. And now I love that. She's really, really good at it. And do you switch and do that to her as well? Because you keep saying you are a switch. Yeah, yeah. I do. I think that, I don't know. I don't know. I don't love strap ons because of the functionality, but that could just because I'm not good at using them. I really, really love giving oral to women. I really love going down on them and doing like with a toy or have you heard of Betty Dodson? So she's a sex educator and she developed a bunch of different protocols and
Starting point is 00:30:10 stuff for orgasming for women. And she has this barbell that she sells on a website, that's two pounds. And I want to say it's probably six inches long and one end is bigger than the other. Oh, I know that thing. I pitch that on my all the time. I sell the shit out of it because I found it for 17 bucks on Amazon because they sell it to guys for $17 and they sell it for women for like 175. Okay. Yeah. They fucking do. Yeah. Of course they do. Yeah. How do much does she sell that thing for? Because I know where you get it for $17. That's insane. I think it was probably like $250 or something. Yeah. $17. Same one. That's heavy as shit with the big ball and one end and the small wall on the other end. Gay men get that for $1.000.
Starting point is 00:30:54 17 bucks. You as a straight woman, you as a woman have to go buy that for Betty for $250. Can you believe women's life? That's insane. Yeah, it's ridiculous. I'll put the app. And I get so pissed because whenever I talk about this, because women use it to squirt, right? That's someone told me once about it squirting, right? And when she sent me to link, I saw it 775. So I just took a, I took a pick of it and put it into Google picks just to see where else I could find this because 17, I was just way too much. And I literally found it for $17.
Starting point is 00:31:23 I was like, this is ridiculous. I've been looking for it in China so I could sell it myself. But anyway, did you guys use the toy? Yeah, so that's my favorite one to use when I go down on women. How come? Because of the weight. Yeah. And because the way that they can use it too, if they have their knees up,
Starting point is 00:31:40 they can rock their pelvis back and forth and they can fuck themselves with that while I'm sucking on their clit. And I think that that feeling of control, for women like while we're in that situation makes the orgasm way more intense so but that one's my favorite because of that weight because it doesn't come out and because it like I think that that was is one of the reasons that like my multi-orgasms
Starting point is 00:32:02 are so good was just training with that thing oh why because that you got that early on and would always use that yourself the one that I use the one that I promote is more it's curved actually and that's why it like makes you squirt it's got a curve to it but because I'm looking at hers now on and it's a barb the barbell It's straight, right? But the one that I have, which is just as heavy and everything, like I said, is it's curved.
Starting point is 00:32:25 And that's why it could help you squirt because it gets to the G spot. Okay. I'm going to have to pick that one up and try that one out. Yeah, I'll send you the like I said, it's only 17 bucks. Sorry, Betty Dobson. You're amazing. Thank you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Anyway, all right. So you use that on her. You guys do everything together. Now, do you ever develop feelings for her? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Her and I, so I think we both, we both developed feelings for each other kind of alongside each other, but neither of us were really ready to admit that.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Neither of us were wanting to admit that. Yeah, because she's in a relationship, but is she in an open relationship? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So her girlfriend has other partners. Have you ever picked up with the girlfriend? No, so I started talking to them both actually in the beginning and like the vibe of her
Starting point is 00:33:16 girlfriend put me off so I decided to stop talking to her and actually I didn't meet up with her okay but you and her have hooked up with other people you did say that yeah yeah yeah I've hooked up with a lot of other people we we had a guy like on Christmas Eve just barely a couple months ago that came up and he was like six foot tall liking blonde huge dick and one of her favorite things is when is orgasm denial with me. So like I'll ask her if I can come on their dick. Orgasm, what do you say? Orgasm denial. Oh, denial, huh? For you? Like she wants to make you not be able to come. Yeah, yeah. And I love that because that's usually the thing is people are like, okay, I want you to come as many times back to back. Yeah. So the edging and taking me and then telling me no is so hot for me. Yeah, I like teasing denial. I think
Starting point is 00:34:10 it just takes something that you love and just makes it last longer. But anyway, go on. So that's a that we did for Christmas Eve was we hooked up with this Viking was funny he actually showed up in a Santa suit so on Christmas day I kept posting pictures saying I made Santa come twice last night oh my God where are you posting these pics so everyone knows like your life and what you do and that you're like this unicorn and you're just like completely out proud no just on like my Snapchat like I have a lot of so because I do friends with benefits most of my friends I fuck with just because I don't I just prefer that honestly I have hot friends and I have my daughter so like I don't have a bunch of free time. So if I'm going to have free time, I want people that are cool to be around
Starting point is 00:34:48 and that I can have sex with because I have such a high drive. Yeah, yeah, obviously. It sounds like it. Now, let's get back to the feelings for that girl, though, like you were talking about that and cut you off. So is she still with her girlfriend, but you guys, like, are allowed to dig each other too? No. So they broke up last fall and she ended up moving out. And I guess their relationship, this girl that she was with wasn't non-monogamous when they met. And so was trying to do it in that relationship. And it was a whole mess that I didn't get involved in. And it was probably like last fall that her and I finally admitted we had feelings for each other
Starting point is 00:35:26 and told each other that we loved each other. And then we're kind of in this place where I think that romantic love is toxic. Because I come from this background of like full codependency. I think I told you my ex had a personality disorder. So it was really, really intense, really, really enmeshed. And I had had one boyfriend since my divorce, like five months, not even that three months, because I thought, okay, maybe I'm just being a bitch. Maybe I'm just like commitment avoidant.
Starting point is 00:35:57 And as soon as I got into that relationship with that guy, I started missing all of my fuck buddies. So I... It's not for you right now. You might change your mind down the line. It's not for you right now. But just because you had one bad relationship doesn't mean every guy or any. kind of love is toxic. It's just toxic with the wrong person. And that's your picker. You have to take accountability for that, right? So like, you know, but it doesn't mean that 10 years from now
Starting point is 00:36:19 you might change your mind or you might fall in love with a woman and find that that's not toxic at all. You know what I mean? And I just think it was toxic with that guy because that's who he was. Yeah. That's absolutely fair. Love isn't toxic. Okay. Not if it's actually love, right? I think that's the part that I get stuck on. It's like people will like who I am or love who I am, but they're not in love with me. Well, it doesn't say, listen, it sounds like you're, listen, you're still super young, right? You had that one relationship with that really bad guy. And I could see how that's traumatizing because he was like really messed up.
Starting point is 00:36:52 But it isn't, it doesn't sound like you've had much more experience since him as far as long-term relationships go. So how is anyone of these people that are just banging you going to fall in love with you anyway? It doesn't sound like you've given anyone the chance for that yet that you even know. But obviously there's somebody out there. that would love you for you and everything. It just doesn't sound like you've gone there yet. And that's cool. It's just not where you're at.
Starting point is 00:37:15 It sounds like you're having a lot of fun doing what you're doing and being open and being Polly, right? For now. Yeah. And I think that's like not to bounce around again, but that's the other part of solo Polly is having those platonic relationships that are like, that are very not in a romantic way, but in a connection way. So you get that.
Starting point is 00:37:35 So like emotional intimacy. Yeah. Yeah. That's not. It's safer. It's easier. It makes sense that you would set up all that kind of stuff after having such a traumatizing relationship, right?
Starting point is 00:37:47 First relationship and stuff. It makes sense that that kind of setup would be great for you and works for you. But it doesn't mean that, like I said, 10 years from now, you may not change your mind or be in a different place. Totally. And I am unattached to that. I have no idea what the fuck my life's going, obviously. Nobody does.
Starting point is 00:38:06 So that's the kind of fun thing if you're open. to where it goes. Like I said, you might wind up with a girl. You do like this girl now, but you have no intention of locking that down or anything, right? Well, I didn't, but now her and I, we live together because there was a shuffle, right, jobs and moving out and everything. So her and I live together, but her and I are both in that space of, well, I don't know, we didn't want a primary partner, so, but we both are obsessed with each other and we fit so well together that I think that's kind of the space that we're in now is figuring out what that means and what that looks like. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:38:42 In the context of all of our other, I don't know, all of our other relationships or all of our other stuff. So it's nice and I feel like we're in a good spot because her and I, neither of us really needed anything from each other. We just decided to show up and wanted to be around each other. And so it's been an ever-evolving thing. And it does sound like she loves you for you. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Yeah. Yeah. So you can't say that. can't find that like you did with this girl. Yeah. That's true. You're right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:13 And does she like, you guys live together? She like in your room like as a couple like you guys are together? Yeah. Mm-hmm. Okay. But she's open and down to be like doing what you guys do, which is like being non-monogamous and doing all these hookups. Now do you hook up solo without her now that she lives there?
Starting point is 00:39:32 And does she also hook up solo? Or you guys always like hooking up with other people together? So we do both. We do, like she'll go on dates. I'll go on dates. I think we prefer, I prefer anyways, to meet people with her just because the safety aspect of it. And we do play around so well together in bed. But yeah, we both have our solo time and people that we both know or will have friends that we both know, but we don't go fuck together every time. It's like that couple from earlier, her and I have fucked around with both of them several times. And then since then I've gone over there and just seen him or just seeing her, whatever. Oh, that's fun. And you guys are totally cool with that, right? Now, does she define, is she a lesbian or is she bisexual? So she identifies as queer and kind of pansexual. She has, she's gone on a lot of dates with trans men. She's had a relationship with trans men before and all kind of queer, beautiful people. We're both, I think we both are in that camp. We don't really have a type. It's like we like really hot humans. Yeah. You're down for anything, right. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So it makes it, I think that's what makes it. I think that's what makes. it really fun and that's why that's why her and I are thing right now is we really want to find some boys that will fuck each other in front of us yeah that's like your new thing it do you think
Starting point is 00:40:45 it was like all that talk and shit with your first husband is that when you realize you were into it i think with him i think i started yeah realizing how much i was into it with him and then then i shut that down because of how toxic that whole situation got but never mind i don't want to deal with it. And then now it's not that I haven't been open to or I've been trying to in the last couple of years, but I think that for guys, there's such a, it's such a thing for them to say that they want to fool around with a guy or, like, they want to put a dick in their mouth, but that's all. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I'm not gay. Be gay. That's fun. I know. I know, but look at my show. I have a million guys that are doing it. So whatever. I always thought it's like a little bit
Starting point is 00:41:32 different with the younger guys. You're, that they're more open. have you guys, you have hooked up with guys together, right? What about other couples? Do you have any other couple stories? I know you said one was a cut queen. Was that that first one? Yeah. That was the first one that I fooled around with.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Then, let me think. So then I have this other couple that it's funny because they are, so I'm in, you can edit this out, but I'm in Utah. And so many people who used to be Mormon are Polly. Oh, really? Yeah. Were you Mormon? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Okay. So I don't know why, but there's a very interesting subculture in Utah. So it goes most of the population, two out of three million are Mormon. So most of them are religious. But then the other million are pretty loud and pretty intense. And more and more and more, it's a bunch of these couples that leave and they're not Mormon anymore. But then they go poly and they're fucking around together. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Interesting, right? What you resist persists. I think it's because they just put so much, tell them not to do something because they get out. And they're like, now I'm going to do that exact thing I wasn't allowed to do because that's fucking fun. Uh-huh. You know what I'm saying? It's like. And then you're releasing all of these like 25 to 30-year-olds that have never drank, have never smoked, have never done anything.
Starting point is 00:42:47 That's what I mean. So they go fucking crazy. It's like the worst thing you could do to your child is like try to repress everything bad in their life. But and you did say like you were like when you were younger, very sexually repressed because you were, I guess, morbid. Now do you just feel so free considering everything that you've experienced and you're just a last. allowing yourself to do whatever, be with whoever, experience, whatever. And no shame or guilt about that at all, right? For you?
Starting point is 00:43:14 Yep. Yeah. I think, so when I was little, when I was a kid, I was like, okay, there's some hypocrisy here. I can't fucking do this shit. Right. So I was still in it, but I think once I walked away from that completely, I walked away from it in my marriage, but once I was out of my marriage and then started
Starting point is 00:43:30 doing whatever I wanted, it was like, okay, this is how I'm supposed to live my life. all right, this is where, here we go. Now we're starting. And this feels right for you. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It feels much better. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:42 And what do you enjoy the most? Like being a unicorn, being with your girl, having a threesome with her. What is your top of the mountain? I don't think I have a top of the mountain, honestly. I think I like the variety and I like the novelty of it. Yeah. You have a high sex drive too, like you said, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Yeah. So I think when I first met her, I was fucking probably four different people a week. Men and women? All the, all of the, yeah, okay. Uh-huh. And now it slowed down a little bit just because my daughter and other stuff, but I still go see probably two or three people a month a week, depending on where I'm at.
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Starting point is 00:45:22 But I think, yeah, I don't know, top of the mountain moves for me because I'll think, oh yeah, this is this new thing, whatever, this is so hot, I want to try this out. And then I either love it. And so then I want more and it's not the top of the mountain because now I can expand that even further. I'm a maximalist person. So I'm like, all right, let's get the snacks. Let's get the music. Let's get the thing.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Yeah. So for Halloween last year, we went to a party with a bunch of poly people and I invited some friends. So we had that couple with us. And then we had this girl that came and she was, I met her and her boyfriend together. Oh, that's another couple that I fucked actually. So this other couple, I went and hung out with them. went on a couple of dates. They were both telling me very different things, though.
Starting point is 00:46:05 So she was telling me, we're super Polly. I want to find someone to date together. And it's not going to be all about sex. And he was telling me, I really want to hook up. He was sexing me. And she knew he was sexing me. That wasn't a problem. But they were just so completely separate on what they wanted that, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:26 It made the sex weird. It was fun when I only fucked around them once. but that it was definitely a clear divide. So then after they broke up, I invited her to this Halloween party. So it's my girl, myself, this couple, and this single girl, go to this Halloween party, drink a little bit, smoke a little bit, come home. And this girl and the husband, they are obsessed with each other immediately. And then the guy's wife is obsessed with my girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:46:56 So that was super fun for me because both of them, they could. kind of paired up and I kind of bounced in between them. And I think that's, I think that's probably what I like the most is being able to bounce in between. Watching or one of my favorite things because guys go crazy is like touching their balls or sucking their balls while she's riding on him. And that's what we did that night was Halloween was. Was that the MFF, FFF. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:47:26 You did say, oh, and I had an MFFFF. That was that. Uh-huh. How many women there? Four. Four. Oh my goodness. One guy. He must have been in his glory. Oh, he loved it. Oh, yeah. He loved it. Now, when you say Polly, what does that mean to you? So, okay, this is, it's taken me a long time to get to this point, right? Because I have my thing with romantic love. So I, I think the first time I heard Polly, I heard you have to be in love with somebody. Oh, really? And I don't. Yeah, like I think that's, what I heard was like you need to there is this romantic loves you have you have relationships with all these people yeah that's what I think it is I think it's like you could fall in love with more than one person and be in love it with more than one person at the same time yeah yeah exactly and I think it
Starting point is 00:48:18 still is that for me but it's more of that possibility and it's more about not closing off that possibility than it is about actually requiring that in every relationship right and like you said you're for you polly can be this dynamic that i never heard of where typically there is that primary relationship right but you there is a poly dynamic that you're saying where you're your primary relationship meaning you don't have a primary relationship it's with yourself and so then you you could have a bunch of other people you're into but no one's going to be your primary exactly but let me ask you this okay like your girl you you guys are in love with each other she's living with you. Say she goes on a date tomorrow and she, you know, starts falling in, like she comes
Starting point is 00:49:04 home and she's got like a thing with somebody else that's like just as good as you, if not better and a connection. And she starts falling in love with that person. Is that going to make you feel any way or are you cool with that? So my thing, I can't remember where I read it, but there was a really interesting polyprinciple, which is that requiring or being with partners that are able to maintain a relationship of quality with you while they do something with someone else. So for me, it's a lot more about, okay, are you able to be in love with that person and be good-guide and also still be here when we're here with me? Because I love that. I love hearing about other people's relationships. I love seeing, like, my compulsive tick is so strong.
Starting point is 00:49:51 I'm that person that's like showing up at my friend's events. Yes, I want everybody to win. Yeah, that's awesome. So, yeah. So for me, it's a lot. more like it only would become a problem if I feel like okay now I'm getting disconnected from an order for you to go and do that thing but even in that situation I feel like from my my approach that is still okay this is what I need from you not why are you doing that with them yeah that makes sense and so as long as you're getting what you need you're not afraid I think it's like my fear of abandonment would never allow me to do like that I think it's everyone's biggest fear and the reason why most people couldn't do it but I think that if you're on the same page and everything's cool and you don't
Starting point is 00:50:27 have that fear of abandonment or whatever and you can roll that way. That's what I think, like, why people are, like, more evolved than I am because that's, like, amazing that you could give someone else that freedom and for them to do their thing without worrying about it. Yeah, yeah. And it's interesting because I think, I think, honestly, having my daughter really pushed my brain out even more outside of that polyspace because, let's say, we have to pick one person. Now you have a mom and a dad, right? Which one are you going to pick? You're going to love two people. Yeah. Same if you had five kids, right? You love five kids. I only had one because I'm like, I can't imagine loving more than what I have a problem. Same. I'm like, I don't want to talk with my kid. She's a bad at.
Starting point is 00:51:08 Yeah. But I think that just like looking at that different way of it of, okay, so if I fall in love with somebody, it's different than if I fall in love with this person because it's very person specific. Yeah. And I think that a big part of that is going into a relationship. I think a big part that triggers that abandonment is when we get into that codependency part. Yeah. But we don't actually realize it's codependent because most relationships in our culture are codependent by nature. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Especially when you're moved in and they're filling the bill. There's a lot to lose. Yeah. Exactly. So I think that it's, it's got to be a lot harder for people that go from monogamous to poly. I understand that's probably a completely different transition. But I think if you're going from the beginning and going, okay, this is my identity.
Starting point is 00:51:52 And I'm going to be here with you, but my identity is so mine. and I'm still a separate person, it is a lot easier to deal with that stuff that comes up because I definitely get triggered sometimes. I definitely get like a tinge of jealousy and have to work through that. But also I think that that's not just helped my emotional maturity and my emotional intelligence to figure out why I feel about that. Yeah. And it's almost always way more about something else or a past situation or whatever has come up than it is actually about this person is putting their mouth on that person or they feel this thing with someone else. else. It's not about that unless I feel like I'm not enough already. If I feel like I'm enough, then they're great. Go find somebody, but you're going to replace me with somebody that's not me.
Starting point is 00:52:36 If you don't want to be with me, that's great. But you're not going to find a better version of myself because I'm the only person that's myself. Right. You're your only you. Yeah, listen, I've talked to couples who have played solo and then eventually start to have feelings and some of them can't make it through something like that. But the ones that do, it's all about communication and working through, like they've always sort of explained it the same way you have, like working through their own shit and realize where that stuff is coming from. And once they work past it, there's like freedom in that. Like I had this woman Jasmine on who's really cool. And she's like super hardcore. Her and her husband, like way later in their marriage opened up and did all kinds of
Starting point is 00:53:13 crazy things. But then started to have solo partners. And now they both have boyfriends and girlfriends. But it was hard at first to work through. But they work through that stuff. And they're able to now have it all and totally fine with it. But it took a little work for sure. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And I think that is with any relationship, right? Like, people that are married for 20 years tell you that it's shitty. They don't tell you that this has been the best 20 years of their life. They tell you it's been hard. And I think it's just different, different challenges and different things that you're picking. Yeah. Yeah. Now, your girl- infidelity in that 20-year marriage and working through infidelity or you're figuring out how to be
Starting point is 00:53:47 okay while your partner's on a date and you're at home. But your girl now, does she, is she consider herself Polly too, yes, right? So she considers herself more non-monogamous. She doesn't, I think she doesn't connect so much with that emotional connection aspect of Polly, maybe. So the way she's described it to me is she likes having more play partners and then her and I in relationship and then she has her play partners that she goes and sees or we go see it together. Right, but she's just fine with just digging you and that's where her emotion lies. So for her, you are her primary. Yeah. But she's cool with you going and playing with other people and stuff like that. Yeah. Like I said, we do that together. And she's pretty much every year. She's been married before. I've been married before. But her marriage,
Starting point is 00:54:32 she was non-monogamous in her marriage. And she's been non-monogamous in almost all of her relationships. Right. So she's very non-monogamous. Yeah. Yeah. So she was very comfortable with that dynamic coming into it. That's been helpful. Last question. Do your family and friends know that you're living with a woman and you're dating a woman now or that you're Polly? Are you like very out? Or is it this a secret life that you lead. So everybody knows that I have a girlfriend, but, you know, my family lives, like my parents live next door to me actually, so they know her and they interact with her a lot. But I don't know. I don't talk to many people about my other relationships or about hooking up with other people or being Polly. I'd say like my close friends know, but that's pretty much it, just because like I'm a business owner. I'm a mom, crazy ex. I don't need to give him any more
Starting point is 00:55:20 information. But the funny part is, is my crazy ex and his girlfriend are dating together. Oh, hilarious. They're probably looking for dudes. Are they looking for dudes? Yeah, he is. There you go. So he came into his own too. Listen, you guys were like early 20s when you were together, right? Yeah. Everyone's kind of fucked up when they're early 20s. I can't stand when I hear people like in their 50s and they're still mad at people from their 20s. I'm like, you can't judge somebody for what they do in their 20s. Trust me, when you're like 45, you'll look back and be like, he's probably going to be, a different person by then hopefully i mean you should like sort of grow and change but a lot of people are fucked up when they're in their 20 so we don't know who he's going to be 20 years from now hopefully a lot
Starting point is 00:56:01 better than he was when he was young that young to be married and have kids yeah i think yeah and especially with that religious aspect where if you get married now you're done okay well now you have to live another fucking 80 years oh my god what do you mean you're married and you're done forever no like this shit's gonna come up oh my god yeah crazy i'm always like do me do marriage math. I always always obsessed with marriage math and I just claustophobic as far as I can't be with one person for 60 years like I'd rather kill myself like and I love my life but I always have like people projecting people that are real relationship people projecting their shit onto me like oh you don't understand what you're missing
Starting point is 00:56:39 like you could have had this I'm like I wouldn't have wanted that if you paid me a million dollars like I love my life I love that I've been with tons of guys and had so many different relationships and met so many different people. I wouldn't have wanted to do it with one person my whole life. Like now I feel like I could be with someone for 10 years, but I would have never been able to be at that place if I hadn't had 50, 70, 100 guys before because I like that variety. And that's more interesting to me. Yeah. I'm curious. I have a question with your son. Yeah. Because you're saying like it's hard to do the math with that. Was it an adjustment for you to do the math with having your son or was that a different?
Starting point is 00:57:18 What do you mean as far as just having a baby? Yeah, like doing the math. There's a baby and he's going to be in your house for this many years. Oh, no, no, no. I never had any kind of claustrophobic thing about that. I was very ready, though. I had my kid when I was 46. I had been there, done that.
Starting point is 00:57:35 And so I did it at the right time for me. I had already quit drinking. I was kind of like when I'd see people in line for a bar, I'd be like, I'd rather be changing diapers. And there wasn't one day in my life when I was with my son taking care of him that I ever thought, oh, I wish I was out because I had done everything in my life that I wanted to do. I was like, now what? You know what I mean? So to me, being a mom is the greatest thing.
Starting point is 00:57:56 So no, that has never been, that has been the most natural, easy thing in my life. Good. Yeah. Awesome. So no. But if I would have had him at 25, I probably would have thrown him out the window. I guess it's hard. I get why parents aren't so great when they have kids younger because it's a lot of work and it's really hard.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Like I could go on and on about it, but I had a baby older, and so it was just easy for me to be the kind of mom I wanted to be and be a good mom and be very present. And I still, and I have an eight-year-old and I'm 55 and I love it. It keeps me young. I, and he's the best. But listen, I mean, I feel like I could have gotten a million stories from you because you have so many and such a you lead a very interesting life. You know that I always look for picks if you want to send me anonymous picks for my Patreon. on. And so many people are going to be looking for you because I can't tell you how many people are like, how do you find a unicorn? How do you find a young unicorn? I had a whole conversation
Starting point is 00:58:52 with someone who's looking for a young unicorn. They're going to be looking for you. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So you could also go on to my Discord afterwards. I'll give you free access to that and you could put anything up there. But thanks so much for calling in and sharing your story. It was super interesting. Get me your pick sooner than later like ASAP. Okay, send them to me. All right. Awesome. Thanks so much for calling in. Yeah. Thank you, Kathy. It's great to meet you. Bye, Bella. Bye.
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