Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 867 - Kevin is Into Men, Trans Women, Hotwifing, Swinging amd More

Episode Date: July 9, 2024

Kevin is into men, trans women, hedonism, swinging, and more and he called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including the first time he hooked up withy a guy and exactly what went down, how and when he went on to craigslist and what he went looking for, the guy he dated and why it didn’t work out, the trans girl he dated and what went down, how he went on vacation to Hedonism and exactly what went down there including the hotwife hook-ups and the bjs while at the pool, how he decided to enter into the lifestyle, the female co-worker he met who he got into the lifestyle with, the nude resort they went to and their trip toThailand and the 3some they had with a ladyboi while there, the next female co-worker he met and took to a swingers party and exactly what went down while they were there, how he felt seeing her with another guy and why he liked it so much, all the hotwife hook-ups they had and exactly what would go down, how and why he got eventually got sober and the girl he met and started dating in rehab and how and why that didn’t work out, who he is hooking up with now plus a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I love Kevin's story. It's like a long life story, but he's only 40, but he's done so much. And he's at a really pivotal time in his life right now. He actually got sober two years ago, and we end with that. But before he got sober, he was like playing around and doing all kinds of things and experimenting a lot. He started hooking up with guys when he was younger and trans women and cross-dressers. Then he went to hedonism and started fucking couples and guys' wives. and then he went to Thailand and did some stuff there.

And then he got involved in the lifestyle and had a six-year relationship with a woman that they were very involved in the lifestyle. And there was a lot of hot wiping going on. And then, like I said, he ends with eventually getting sober and ending that relationship. And he's now currently back to dating men and trans women and all that kind of good stuff. And that's the short story. Okay, there's so many details. And you hear that whole story from him. And it's super interesting, like I said, because it seems like,

a whole life story. But really, we're just talking about maybe 10 years, 20 years of a guy's life, but he did so much that there's a lot to it. So I'm going to get right to it and be right back on with Kevin. And by the way, he sent me anonymous picks for my Patreon and he will be on my Discord. So if you want to talk to him or see him or chat with him afterwards, sign up there, patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast. Anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Kevin. Hey, Kevin. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous Podcast. How are you today? Hi, Kathy. I'm doing well. Thank you. Kevin, listen, you sound young, but you didn't mention hooking up with people in Craigslist.

So you must have started young, young then? I don't know, because Craigslist was around back in the olden days to mean at this point. But how old are you now? I know you're single now, but how old are you now, Kevin? Right now, 41. Okay, you're 41. But you've played around a lot. You have gone exploring on Craigslist, did mail-male stuff, you and trans hook-ups,

you've done stuff in the lifestyle very much so too you went to hedonism in jamaica you've been to Thailand you've fucked some couples and all that kind of good stuff right you're right in line with all my other callers it's been interesting yeah yeah yeah i don't know that we go all the way back getting some like playing around with when you're like super little but like when let's go back to like your craigslist days why don't we start there Because to me, that would be when you were super young? Like, when did you start realizing that you were into all these alternative things and then started to dabble in them?

Why don't we start there? So I think I started realizing that. I was curious into, like, bisexuality. I was, I was at a young, not young age. I was probably like 17. I had a childhood friend, like we grew up together. We were, one day we were just hanging out. out in my house or it was when I lived up with my parents. We snuck into my dad's liquor cabinet

and we just got annihilated. We got, we started drinking at home and he started hitting on me saying kind of like flirtatious in a way and I had no idea I see even have any bisexual tendencies. Anything, anyway, we kept drinking. One thing led to another and we're like, we're like making out. I was double. time I ever went down on a guy. I was even like rimming him and he was doing that to me. Yeah. Well, the alcohol had a lot in book to do with it. Of course. I think. I think. And so that was like, that was, I would say that was like my first time ever. And then it just kind of evolved from there. Was that a one and done with that friend? Yes. Okay. Was it weird seeing him afterwards or what was

that like? It was it just something that you just pretend to never happen? Yeah. It would just pretended like it never happened. So interesting. Girls can't do that as well as guys can. I think guys can really compartmentalize things and just forget and about shit differently than girls can because it's funny. Like you could just forget that his cock was in your mouth and you were rimming his ass and you never did it again. It's kind of like major. Yeah. Also it was around 17, 18 and then you went your separate ways. Yeah, we went our separate ways. Like we didn't really stay in contact too much afterward. We all, then life kind of started after that. Yeah. Okay. And then is that, so then after you got your first taste of guys, I'm assuming you're playing with women as well.

Do you, is that when you go on to Craigslist looking for more guy on guy hookups? Okay. So then after that, after that, I actually got married at 21. Yeah. So that was around 18 with a guy, right? So then around time goes by and then around 21 I got married. It didn't last long. It lasted about like six to eight months or so. Oh my God. Why didn't you get married?

Because I was 21 young and it was like the only girl that really was paying attention to me and I like, oh, so I kind of fell in love. I'm 21. I think I knew the world. You thought you could never get to meet a girl again. You're like, I got to lock this one down.

exactly exactly and she was like she was very hot yeah she was 20 i was 21 so yeah i was like i just need to lock this down this is the one for the rest of my life blah but wait and then why though did it end so quickly honestly because she she had immigrated over from another country and so she was at that young age she was ready to have a family and kids and a house and a house and I was just not ready for that. I was working my butt off at the time and kids, and that was not in my plan. So she was just pushing you.

And this is what I think at that young age, you're not even thinking like, oh, I'm ending a marriage. You're just thinking you're breaking up with someone, even though you were married. Because it just sounds like a really quick wedding and a really quick divorce six months in. There's no cheating or nobody murdered anyone.

Like, why a big divorce? You probably could have worked through that shit. But I think when you're so young, you're just like, I'll just leave. That's not that big of a deal. You don't really realize your parents spent all that money on your wedding. All those people got you presents. You're selfish.

Okay. So anyway, you break out. So you get divorced. Married divorce. Now what happens? Correct. So then after that, I moved to Seattle. And when I moved to Seattle, that's when the Craigslist really started to take a take off.

And I felt like I was in a new city. Nobody knew me. I could be whoever and whatever I wanted to. So then, yeah, I just started. I just, Craigslist was a thing to go on. I didn't really, I don't know if there was any other apps, maybe Grindr, but I didn't really. No, there was no grinder back then, I don't think really. So you would go on to Craigslist, you're in this new city, and did you go looking for men strictly?

So when I first moved up there, no, I want to say I went up and I was looking, at first I was just looking for like cross-dressers and trans women. And that's what I was looking for. And that's what I started to play with is just cross-dresses and trans girls. And that was a lot of hooking up with them. It was fun. It was just a good time. Well, walk me through those kinds of experiences. Who were you in that scenario?

And what did you guys do? Tell me your first hookup with a trans woman as well as maybe your first hookup or a hot hookup with a cross-dresser. So when I meet up with a trans or a cross-dresser, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, go to their house. I would never host at my house or at my apartment. So I would always meet up and go to their house or their apartment. And we just meet up and have fun. We fuck. And it was fun. And then also, I met a guy on Craigslist that kind of developed like this crush on him, but he was, he couldn't. And this is all like secret, right? I didn't, I've been telling anybody any of this. So like, he was in also, wasn't able to keep that

fling going because he was in a relationship I later found out. So that kind of that ended. But also, but while I was up there, I still continued to find and hook up with other trans women or I later found out. So that kind of that ended.

But also, but while I was up there, I still continue to find and hook up with other trans women. And now with the crush on that guy, I know that we're talking about a lot of hookups, but do you consider yourself bisexual like you would date a man or a woman? I mean, what?

So I tried that. So I lived up there for a while. And like I said, I kind of, I like the fact that nobody knew me. I could be whoever I wanted and do whatever I wanted. So after that, I met another guy on Craigslist, I want to say again. And I actually kind of dated him. He was single. I was single.

and we would actually go out on dates. Different type of guy who's a black guy, is kind of slimmer, but still had a good body. But he went, like, we went out of a few days. And so I guess I would consider myself bisexual at that time, or now, I'm even, but I wasn't out. It didn't go anywhere. I just wasn't out.

He, I think he wanted it to have more. And since I wasn't really out, well, I wasn't out to anybody else. I didn't feel comfortable, like, continue continuing that. Okay. So it's a very secret life that you're leaving, even living, even though you're very far away. You're still doing all of this undercover kind of. Yeah. Yeah. And I also, I remember that I also met another, I met a trans girl that she, on Craigslist, that she lived about an hour away from that city. And her actually dated.

We dated for probably six months or so. And I felt more comfortable dating her because she was passable. So, yeah, even bringing her around friends or outings, like, I was like, yeah, she's cool. She's passable, but she has a dick. Did your friends know? No, they did not know. Really? So she was that possible.

Maybe they did, but they never said anything to me. And you never said anything. And I never said anything, yeah. But that one, she was. cool we had a good time and everything but that that ended because during that time she was working on getting her bottom surgery done okay so after after she got her bottom surgery it's a kind of fit i would like not i was not interested in her anymore because i'm like well if i wanted to date a girl i could date a girl you like that you like that she looks like a girl but

you like that she's got a dick it's kind of like both things that you like in one Exactly. Yeah, that makes sense. I've heard of a lot of guys that like that. Okay, so then now you wind up going to hedonism? Like what made you decide to go on, I'm assuming, a solo trip to a lifestyle resort? Yeah, so then I moved back to back home. Yeah.

And then, and I was dating, I was dating there other times to blah, blah, blah, blah. It didn't work out, obviously. And my friend was like, hey, you should go to hedonism. You're single now. I'm going to get a hedonism. And I had no idea what his place was. Yeah. So I Googled it right away.

I googled it. And I'm like, you know what? I'm 30 or I'm turning 30. Yeah. Why not? I'm like, I was in the best shape of my life, super fit. It felt great. So I did.

So I booked a trip to hedonism. Oh, my God. And I trust me, I was super nervous going there because it's a swingers lifestyle resort. and I had never been and this is my first time. So I stayed like they have a nude and a fruit side. So I stayed like in the fruit side. But like in the evening, as the sun goes down, that's when the party really starts. And so I would venture over to the new side.

And yeah, I'd go, you have to be naked. So everybody's naked. Of course, some liquid courage to like help me feel comfortable. And there was a lot of couples, the older couples. And I was like the young guy, right? So it was the first time Like guys were coming up to me And offering their wives to me

Literally just be like I didn't know what to do right Yeah you're like what universe am I on at this planet Like where else in the world would you ever go And a guy is coming up to you and saying here Fuck my wife or girlfriend Yeah No place

I would be like hanging out the pool Just and a guy I remember specifically an older gentleman Comes up and he's kind of He's having his wife by his hand or by her hand. And they just straight up said, hey, do you want to fuck my wife? She thinks you're really hot. And she didn't say, and I look at her and she was, she was very attractive to women.

I was like, yeah. And so it was weird because we started just fucking on the side of the pool. And then we had to move to a cushion. I didn't know what I was doing, to be honest. I had no clue. I just knew that I was lucky enough to fuck somebody's wife. Yeah. But how was that?

How was that for you? Was it like so hot on so many different levels because, you're just like begging a hot chick, but also the fact that you're begging some guy's wife in front of him in public. That's pretty loaded for you because you've never done anything like that before. Yeah, it was very a lot of that. It was the fact that I was banging. One, I was fucking a hot older woman.

Yeah. Two, yeah, I was fucking somebody's wife. And they were like watching me. So I kind of felt like I had to perform. Yeah. And then also, yeah, just fucking in public. Because it wasn't just me or it wasn't just us having sex. Everybody around the pool was having sex.

And people were getting blow chops here and people getting fucked on the other corner. It's just wild. It's just wild there. It's very hedonistic. I mean, is like where. I mean, that's what's going down there. It's just all sex. It is like what you would think, though.

Like you weren't disappointed going there, right? No, I was not disappointed. And I believe that was the, I want to. say that was the first night there. The first day you fuck that guy, that that guy hooked you up with his wife? Yeah, I want to say, that was the first night that I was there.

And then I kind of just continued the rest of the week. There was a lot. So, yeah, there was a lot of alcohol involved. I was drinking a lot. But I know there was more hookups. And there was even like, there was like groups that would come, groups of people that would come.

I remember there was a group from like Dallas. that was partying there, but I wasn't really interested in them. But what were the demographics of the people? Were they all different ages, all different scale of one to ten? Like something for everyone? It was. So it's average everything. Yeah.

Zero to ten from like I was 30. So I don't really see any other 30-year-olds, but from young to like older 60-year-olds, like everything. Something for everybody. Right. So I'm from very fit to not fit to people that just like being nude. Yeah, just nudists. Yeah. And did you see where you turned on watching other people have sex too and being in that kind of environment?

Just being a voyeur? Yeah, I enjoyed that too. I enjoyed watching. It was fun. It was a good time. But the last, the other memorable night that I remember was I think like one of my last nights there. So during the daytime, I was hanging out at the news side, just on the DHS stunning or whatever, and there was couples there doing the same.

So I was getting up to go back to my room and I walked by this couple. And the woman was, like we made eye contact. The woman was stroking off her husband. So she was just stroking her dick. Everybody's naked. So she was just stroking a dick and they like made eye contact and we smiled at each other. And nothing happened at that time at that moment. But that night, they found me by the pool.

And then the guy was like, hey, I'd like you to come back to our hotel or to our room. Because they had, they had a room with pots on it on it on the patio. And I was like, okay. I was having a good time at the pool. Like, yeah, yeah. I'll meet up with you guys later. Not thinking it, I forgot. I was, there was a lot going on.

And so at the end of the night, I was heading back to. to my room. This is about 2 a.m. or so. And I purposely went the different route back to my room to go in front of the hotel rooms with the hot tubs to see. I was like, well, let's see if I run into them. And sure enough, they were hanging out in their hot tub.

And the guy like saw me, wave me down. Hey, how you doing? I was like, oh, hey, man. Like, okay, here we go. So he's like, hey, you want to join my wife in the hot tub. and I was walking back. I had my shorts on. And I was like, yeah, yeah.

And he kind of looked at me and gave me like the look like I have to take my shorts off. Yeah. And I was like, okay. So I took my shorts off. I get in the hot tub. And I, and like him and his wife and I kind of, we just kind of started talking, kind of mingling, whatever. Small talk. The gentleman stayed out of the hot tub.

He grabbed a chair and started and sparked up a cigar. And I thought in my head, I thought that was interesting. And I was like, okay. And then his wife kind of started coming on to me and kissing on me. So then I started kissing on her. And that led to us, that led to me fucking his wife in the hot tub while she's looking at him. Just and he's sitting there just like smoking a cigar with a smile on his face. Oh my God.

Yeah. It was that was, I think I want to say that was like my last night there. Like I said, there was a lot of, there was a lot of alcohol and we. lead involved. So those are probably like the two memorable moments from my time that he'd is. Well, listen, that's a big deal for a 30 year old to be like fucking two milts while their husbands watch.

Most people, that's never happened to them. It happened to you twice by the time you're 30. Yeah. And there's more hooking up. Yeah. Yeah, there was a lot of hooking up in that week that I was there. A lot of low jobs. Like, I'd be sitting by a pool. Yeah. Or sitting on the pool edge. And then a woman I remember a woman would come up and just stuck in, stuck in people, some sucking guy's dicks.

Wow. She went around the pool and I was going to be sitting there and I got my dick sucked too. Oh my God. Isn't that crazy? I'm not going to lie. Like at the end of the week, my dick was sore. I came home and I was like, holy fuck out. My dick is sore from fucking so much and just playing so much.

Oh, my God. Did you tell your friend who told you to go like, dude? Yeah. You need to fucking go. Yeah. Yeah, I told, I told them, I'm sure I told them all about it. I'm sure I told them all details and stuff. But he was married, he's already been married at this time.

And he was just, I'm living vicariously through me, I guess. 1,000%. But, yeah, I scared all with him. Yeah. So that kind of led to me exploring and looking more into like lifestyle, the lifestyle, I guess. Yeah. And more into lifestyle porn and swing. in porn. First it started with swingers and swinging porn. And so I had met somebody at work and we

are a female at work. And her and I were like casually dating, but her and I was, it was awesome. So we just fucked a lot. We were both single. And I, so then I found out later about this mini keto that's over in Palm Desert Hot Springs. I know I listened to an episode where somebody called in and they asked they worked there. And so I went, so I went there with a coworker. And we, and that's also a nude resort. So you have to be naked and it's swinger and lifestyle. Yeah.

And I'm still like new to it. I haven't really explored much. And she's definitely not. Or she's definitely new to it. So we go, we get naked. And it's mainly, but that time, just her and I play around. And it was exciting just to be having sex and playing and talking to other people that are naked. Yeah, for sure.

We didn't hook up with anybody. We didn't hook up with anybody at that time. And her and I continue to see each other and fuck and have a good time for a while. So while I'm with her and seeing her, I book the I get a the travel it. So I book a trip to Thailand. And of course, the lady boy thing is in my mind as well. It's not just about going to Thailand in this beautiful country. It's also looking for lady boys.

Yeah. So she goes with me and we go and we have a good time. And one night we go down to the lady boys strip club or they have an area where it's all just lady boys and they have strip clothes for them and stuff. And so we go in there and they all have a number on them and they're dancing. And she looks over and she's like, do you find it? Do you think any of them are hot? Do you want to play with any of them?

And I look and I find one and I tell her the number. And I guess the hostess, she grabs the lady boy. And she, we go into his back room and start, the lady boy starts giving me a lap dance. My co-workers there with me. She's watching. And during that lap dance, there's some small. talk about going to a private room and going to a hotel. And her and I look at each other, my coworker and I look at each other.

And we just like, yeah, let's do it. Let's go. And so we go to a hotel. And my coworker and the lady boy kind of just kissed, didn't really play around. But I ended up kissing and making out and having fun and fucking the lady boy in that night. So it was kind of like a small three sum, I guess. Yeah, for sure. Did you fuck your girl in front of the lady boy or did you do that after the lady boy left?

I don't remember. I don't remember, to be honest. I don't know if we fucked that in the hotel. No, no, no. I'd rather you be honest than make shit up. That's totally cool. So you guys have this little threesome with the lady boy. Do you do anything else while you're on that trip with her?

No, we didn't hook up with anybody else. We didn't go to any more lady boys. We kind of moved around throughout the country. so there was a lot of that. But this was while we were nice in Bangkok. So that's when we did that. The rest of the time we were like island hopping and having a good time. Right now in that relationship,

because I know you have another relationship where you do get more into the lifestyle and you do couple swapping and stuff. But with this relationship, because you guys did dip your toe into that one lifestyle resort when you were back in the States, did you guys ever do any kind of lifestyle stuff again within that relationship with that girl, the coworker? And in that relationship with the coworker, no. That was it. We just, her and I just had a lot of fun together.

And it was fun. She was easy. She was like easy to go along with. So it was good. But then, but then later, I changed jobs. I go to a different facility. And I meet someone else. She's in a relationship.

I'm still kind of fucking my old coworker. And so she's like this new person. I don't know. What should I call her? The new person. Just call her new person. It's the best way. The new person.

Yeah. Feeding on her husband to fuck me. Because she came up to me and said, we were, so we, the new person and I worked, started working together. And she came up to me randomly. It was like, hey, I had a sex dream about you. I was like, what the fuck. Oh my God.

What a good, what a good liner for a girl to throw on a guy. Yeah. It's a good pickup line. And I'm like, yeah, tell me about it. So she didn't really go into, she didn't really tell me any detail because we were at work. And she, I just wanted to tell you I had a section about you because her and I had flirted, but nothing was serious. And then, so then after she showed me that, that was like a green light for me. So I'm like, so we make out, or after work, we go grab a beer.

And after a beer, we start loosening up. We started making out. And we, that first time we go grab a beer together, we started, we ended up in my truck. And I felt, I'll be honest, I kind of felt bad because I knew she was still married. But I also was like, well, she's fucking me. I'm not forcing her to be here. So I kind of like, well, I'm not going to feel too bad about it. Right.

Anyway, so her and I, so then she left to her husband. Her and I felt guilty. I felt kind of guilty thinking it was kind of my fault or whatever. So I, so her and I started a relationship. And we're together for about a total of six years. But during that relationship, we start dabbling into the lifestyle. And I also took this new person to that mini Hito out in the desert. Uh-huh.

So she was never exposed to anything like that before. So she was nervous. And I had been there once before. So I was kind of like, okay, it's going to be okay. I gave her like a heads off. I want to expect a little. So anyway, we go. And we just do it.

We're there for the day, and we didn't spend the night there, but we stayed there for the night, I guess. Anyway, in the daytime, again, it's kind of chill. Everybody's just kind of naked, drinking, lounging. You can see a couple people having sex here and there, but nothing crazy. And then at the nighttime comes, then the party really starts. And she, like her and I have been playing throughout the day. and then so she was a little intoxicated by or we both were we were kind of drunk by that evening

she noticed is the DJ and she's damn that DJ is hot and I through I told her I was like you should go if you're really hot is a Tico and suck his dick while he's playing while he's doing the DJ and you suck the dick behind the booth oh my god now you're like the guys now you're like the guys at hedonism now you're directing your girl yeah yeah so she does. She goes up there and she started, I don't know exactly what she told that, talked to him about, but I'm kind of sitting in the back and I just see her kind of fucking kneel down and she just appears and she's behind the booth, fucking stuck in the DJ up. And I kind of, this happened for a couple minutes or so.

And then I like got up and went over to the DJ booth and she kind of looked at me and she started stuck in my dick too because remember we're all naked at the time yeah i got this resort so she started stuck in my dick too and then the DJ kind of put his i don't know put the the playlist on autopilot and then he was like hey can i he's like damn he's like damn you're telling me damn your girl was really hot blah blah blah he's like damn i really like to fuck her and i asked her i said hey do is it okay are you cool with all this and she looked at me and she just gave me like a nod yes and so I looked at him and I nodded to him yes and then he starts having he starts fucking her right there while she's stuck in my dick

and that was the first time I ever I think was that yeah that must have been the first time that was like a quote unquote lifestyle experience or a hot wife experience yeah for sure yeah with with her and how was that because you obviously like her right she is your girl and how was it to see your girl get fucked by another guy. Did you love it? It was hot, man. It was fucking hot. It really is. And for me, I, I find it as her being like my personal porn star. Right. When I see her, so I don't want to jump too ahead, but later, watching her fuck other men. Yeah. Like, it's a fucking turn on because, yeah, that I see her as like my own, my personal porn star. And I get in the reclaiming sex is fucking hot. All that is intense for me.

right but that's like I said I was jumping ahead so at that resort so that was that time we played there so we come home and we we continue to dabble into the lifestyle we joined that Cassidy website and started to kind of meet people on there or meeting guys on there because it wasn't really I wasn't really into the Swainer part and she also wasn't really hot on me fucking other women and once I got that taste of another man fucking my girl. And once I got that taste in real and found like I enjoyed that, I was okay with

not fucking other women. Yeah, most guys that are like you don't care about that. They care about the guy being there for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so we continue to play and dabble into the Cassidy. And we made some guys on there. There was a fireman

that we met on there that she came over. By this time, we're hosting at our home. So he came over and he was pretty hot. I thought he was hot too. She thought he was hot and he comes over. She sits on his lap. We're like having some drinks at the house and small talk. And then it leads to going to the lid room on the couch. He goes down on her. And he didn't fuck her that. He didn't end up fucking her. But she ended up right. So after he's like go down on her and they have some fun like that she ends up getting on top of me

running my dick and suck in his dick while he's standing up and so he comes and he gets that post-nac clear like okay i got to go now and we were both left we were both like okay cool i guess that's how we weren't sure like how also we weren't sure like how to end these encounters either. Exactly. What's the right way to say goodbye? I don't know how to end a regular encounter, let alone one of those. You know what I mean? Like I pull at a regular party. So it's good that he just, he bolted. You didn't have to worry about it. Yeah. So after he nutted, he bolted. And we were left there and we're like,

okay, cool, this is cool. That was fun. And so we continue to play. So we continue to play and we made, we meet some other guys. There was another guy that came over. very he was younger very fit and she liked that the fact that he was muscular uh-huh so he was very fit we had pulled out a mattress because because everybody we had our quote-unquote rules and we didn't want to have we didn't want to fuck on our bed we didn't want to have another guy or this was fucking on our bed oh that's an interesting role i haven't heard that one before yeah go on And so we had an extra mattress from one of the spare bedrooms. And we pulled that into the living room.

And so this younger guy comes over, it kind of similar to start where they, we have some drinks and we're talking. And then she kind of goes over to his lap, starts kissing on him. And then it just leads to going to the mattress in the living room. He fucks the shit out of her. I'm loving him. She's screaming like intensely. I'm loving all of this. And at this time, I asked the guy, I'm like,

hey, do you mind if we record this? He's like, I was cool. Don't post it anywhere. Don't share it. I'm like, okay, no, I won't. So yeah, I started recording it. And man, that was like one of the hottest videos. And so then, so then they, he finishes.

He comes on kind of similar thing where he's like, okay, I guess if he cleans up, puts his clothes on and heads, heads out. And we continue to, yeah, we just continue to have fun. And so there's a time I had a drinking buddy. And this guy was, he was around all the time because I was drinking a lot at the time. So he was kind of always around. And we'd go to the strip club with him and my, my girlfriend, we'd go to the strip club.

And so we got pretty close. And there were times he'd comment, like, damn, me, girls, she's hot. She got a breast dog during this time. So she had, like, big, fake tips, which boosted her confidence as well. But so he would be, he'd make, like, little comments and shit like that. And then since we have been playing already, but never with my drinking buddy, I, I brought it to her attention. I was like, hey, he thinks he's pretty hot. Why don't you?

Let's just show him your tits one time. and sure enough, like we were drinking at home and I was like, hey, you want to see her tits? And I look at her and she kind of smiles and she took her top off and he was like, oh my God, that's so hot. And nothing happened the first time. But then later, since he was always around,

it would lead to like all of us fucking together. And we'd set up like little encounters. I was like, oh, why don't you guys? go into the bed, into the bedroom, and I'll pretend like I'm coming home and I catch you guys fucking or something like that. He set up like little scenarios and shit. So, yeah, that kind of that was that shit. I'm kind of, sorry, I kind of lost my train of thought. No, no, no, you're doing great. It really, it sounds like you and her did a lot together. Like, why did you never wind up, you never wound up marrying her or anything, correct? Correct. Correct. Yeah, we did not

get married. Okay, but you just played it through your whole relationship like this. Yeah, pretty much our relationship. We just played like that. So it kind of just stays like that. And it's very casual. And it's not all the time. It's frequently that we fuck. But we continue to go on Cassidy.

And I think that's basically the only website that we used to find, find guys. And then we found this bull that was, he was hot, man. He was like my, the kind of guy that I like. Yeah, tattoos and kind of must. like muscular. He had a nice, nice big cock. And I was like, damn. I was like, damn. If you don't want him, I'll take it. Yeah. But he wasn't, he was not by or he didn't play with guys. So we contact him. He comes over the same thing. That's how we know, I guess, how to start it. Have some drinks and some small talk. And then she kind of goes on and sits next to him and starts flirting with him

and playing with him. But so this guy, the first night or the first day we meet, it was a fucking hot counter. We had let we had let go of the rule of fucking on the bed. Yeah. She, we went onto the bed.

They fucked. We have this, again, like many people say on here, the rule about no kissing. That went out the fucking window. I found this guy really attractive. And so, so did she.

And they were the first day that they hooked up, it was fucking hot. I, I loved it. They had a good time. he basically fucked her every which way on the bed. It ends up coming on her face. And I'm like, holy shoot. And I was like, I thought you didn't like that.

She liked it with him. But I guess with him, yeah, I guess with him it was okay. Oh my God. Is that funny? So it continued on. And I was like, yeah, this guy's hot. So we, on WhatsApp, we had a group messaging. So I was always involved.

And we were all, there was no secret. We would set up dates. and it led to, and actually led to, like, me finding it really fucking hot, like, if they would meet up, well, I was at work. Oh, okay. Yeah, I'd be at work. So we set something up and like, hey, hey, do you want to come over? I'm going to be at work at this time. She's going to be home.

And, yeah, and it was hot. Like, they had some encounters like that or she would go over to his house. And as long as, like, I was cool with all of that. And I was like, hey, the only thing you guys could do everything, as long as she felt comfortable. Yeah. I was like, you guys could do everything you want. But the only thing I want is for you guys to record it. I want to, I want to be able to watch this.

For sure. And sure enough, they would record their sessions. And it was fucking hot. I wish I still had some of those videos. They were pretty fucking hot. You're a dumb, dumb, that you don't still have them. why would you get rid of them? You never got married after that?

Why did you let go of that shit? Because exactly right. I'm a dumb dumb. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, because also, also, so that in camp, all that was fun, all that happened. Her and I, we break up, that relationship ends. I get sober. I go to a treatment facility to get sober.

while I'm there, I meet a woman that's also there for her sobriety. Turns out we, so mind you, this treatment facility is like 45 minutes to an hour away from where I currently live. So while I'm there, I meet this woman. She's also there for the same music. Turns out she lives like a mile away from my house. Wow, that's crazy. You never met her before, but you meet her all over there.

I've heard stories like that before. It's weird, right? Yeah. Yeah. And I guess it's not that crazy because, like, she has a whole life, right? I have a different life. I'm single. She, she, I guess, so anyway, she lived like a mile away from my house.

And during the, during the time that we're in this treatment, we're in our rehab, we're like, she, like, gets very attached. And I'm like, oh, this, this, she's tall, blonde, blue eyes, fucking hot. I'm like, holy shit, this girl's fucking into me. me and I'm over here feeling like shit right I'm like let's all right so her and I start bonding in there and you know connecting and she she tells me she know I'm getting a divorce I have three kids but I'm getting a divorce abusive blah blah blah abusive relationship I'm like okay okay so we get out of the treatment facility that first fucking night she she comes over she has her

mom's drop her off at my house randomly we both get out at the same night she has her mom drop her off at my house. We end up fucking that first night. And it was so crazy because we didn't even get to finish. We didn't get to do much because 45 minutes later or so, her mom's knocking on my door. Like, where's my daughter? Where are my daughter?

I'm like, what's it? I'm like, what's it? But her, we're like 40 years. I was going to say, how old is she that she's got her mommy at the door? Yeah, yeah. No, because, yeah. Her mom dropped her up because she was living or staying at her mom's during some quote-unquote her divorce. Anyway, so her mom picks her up and I'm like, what the fuck is going on?

And she straight up told her, she straight up told her mom, oh, I'm going to a to a meeting at this house, like a AA meeting or whatever. And her mom would like dropping her, her mom thought she was dropping her off at a like AA meeting. meanwhile she was here getting fucked. Yeah, of course. It was just so weird. Anyway, that's fucking, that relationship continued on until about two months, two months ago.

So during this whole time, during like the past, I guess, almost two years when I met this woman at the rehab place. Yeah. Like, she's telling me like, oh, I'm getting divorced. I'm working on getting divorced and da-da-da. I find out her, she's married to a fucking cop in this, that works in the city here.

And instead of me, instead of me realize or thinking, well, this is the fucking red flag. I need to stop. Yeah. I'm like more, I'm like more turned on by it. I'm like, oh, shit. Really? This is, this sounds dangerous. So instead of me like cutting that relationship off, I continued it on for almost two years.

Well, I'm just going to tell you, I'm an addict. I haven't been sober for 26 years. That's the addict in you. Yeah, no, I know. It's that hit of adrenaline you got with that. That's like the fucking kicker. Now you don't have alcohol. You got this shit turning you on.

You know what I mean? It's like you're high. Yeah. Yeah. It was my high for the couple years. Yeah. And so, but I thought you, but you didn't know, though, right? You thought she was divorced, but it turned out that she was like still with that guy or he was just the axe?

I mean, like, yeah. So initially she told me she was getting divorced and was staying at her moms. After we got out of rehab and we continued to see each other and fuck, during that time she had to move, she had to move back into, or she told me she had to move back with her husband to be with her kids and all this other shit. And like, I was,

I didn't really care too much. I was just like this. She wants to fuck. And it was just exciting. I get it. So you eventually found out. that that wasn't the truth. She was still kind of with that guy.

Yeah. Yeah. I eventually found out. But I, but I continue to, we continue to fuck anyway, even though I found out. And like I said,

just up until maybe two months, three months now, I've just cut her off. I don't want to be, I'm just not excited by her anymore. That high kind of ended. Yeah, well, listen, when you get sober,

you change a lot in those years of being sober. You know, in each year, there's massive changes. 10 years from now, you'll be like, oh, my God, I'm even more different than I was two years in. It's just, and they say it, A, A, right? I'm sure they told you in your place, like, the worst thing you could do the first year, don't start a relationship, don't do this, don't do that.

But we all do it. I did the same shit, okay? I was like a fucking guy with a girlfriend and we were having all kinds of crazy sex, you know? You're like lost, right, without your alcohol. You're like, what the fuck? And we all do it anyway. But I think they say that because most likely, if you do form a bond in those beginning years it might not last because there is a lot of changes that are going down. So it makes sense that

you grew out of that, but that was like some sort of relationship that worked for you, probably the both of you, during that super hard time of getting sober. You had each other somehow in a weird way, right? And in a weird, yeah, that first year, even the first couple months, that first year. Yeah. It's kind of, it was. It was nice having somebody to talk to about sobriety and how you're feeling. And then also have sex. with them and you talk about everything. So it was, it helped us.

I understand. It helped me. I did the same fucking shit. I was like dating a guy that had a girlfriend. We were going on secret vacation. I was like a big fat mess. But, you know,

in a weird way, I was like, it was the first one of my life. I was not drinking. You lose a lot. People are some people don't understand. When you get sober, you lose a big part of your life,

right? And so what do you feel it? It's really hard to just sit there and do nothing. I think most people disobey that one rule of AA, which is don't get in a real. I think most people do. And I understand it because like I said, I did the same thing. And you know what?

I'm 20-something years sober, very successful at it. So it didn't ruin my life. You know what I mean? But it like softens the blow or it gives you something to do while you're like really fucking reeling because it's the first time in your life you're dealing with your feelings. And there's a lot of stuff comes up when you quit drinking. So yeah, I get it. Yeah.

There's a shit ton of stuff. So yeah, that definitely helped. It helped me. Yeah. Get through that first year. or two. And so now I've been sober now for two years. So I, yeah, and then I just kind of fizzled. I'm kind of over it. I'm kind of over the drama. I'm like, I don't want to deal with her. And I don't want to get caught by the husband. I don't know. Now, after a couple years of that, I'm like, I'm kind of just over that, right? Yeah, because maybe you don't need. That's what you do lose is you do lose that addiction to the drama. Like I think it was still there when you first quit it. Like I said, that was your drug. But eventually, most people who get sober, that's, the biggest change in your life. You're not addicted to that drama anymore. You don't want it. Like, you get over. Like, I don't have any drama in my life. I'm not fucking interested in it in the

slightest. But when I was drinking, like, that was a part, that was the, that was another drug that I had in my life. So you live off of that. And it's very typical that you would need that before. Let me ask you a question now that you're sober for two years as a guy who has been into a lot of different things in your life. And you've kind of been there, done that. And especially had a lot of sex with guys, women, trans women, all kinds of things. Like, where do you see yourself now and who do you see yourself as? And are you like clearer about certain things now or, you know, like, what's your deal now? Who are you now?

That you don't have liquid courage and all that other shit go down. I'll be, to be honest with you, I'm just learning who I am. Yes. Yeah, that makes sense. As a sober person. I'm still kind of developing, I think, like, who I am, who I really am and who my life is and who, or what my life is, and who I actually want to be or trying to be. Yeah, of course. 100%.

Yeah. I got it. I'm like, I'm just, I feel like I'm just learning to live again, to be who I am, discovering myself, I guess, you can say. Listen, this is, this is like one of the most powerful times in your life. I don't know if you listen to my getting sober episode, but I did it, a getting, a getting, super episode and I did only in six months of AA and then I just quit that whole thing and did it myself and was very successful but I really talk about like everything that went down and it's it is a very like interesting experience and like I said you're two years in and you're just figuring it out

and every year you're going to grow and change and you're going to feel your feet getting back onto the ground and you're going to feel so much more at peace with yourself and over time things will just change so drastically and every year you'll think you change so much and then the next year you'll be like oh my god I'm even more change and it really happens for seven years down the line you're still going to be changing and figuring out who you were. Because what I say a lot of the times and how I felt is that like when I quit drinking, I was like emotionally the age when I started drinking. Like I was like a 15 year old at 34 because I had never really dealt with shit.

I would just drink every time I had a problem. So once I got rid of that and had to, I like, I was like emotionally immature and I really had to figure out how to deal with my emotions and life and figure out who I was and all those things that you're doing. And that takes time. It's not the fucking movies. You don't wake up the next day getting so. and everything's great.

Things get worse before they get better. And things are difficult. But it really is amazing that your tears in and it's only going to get better five years from now and 10 years from now. And then you'll just be like, you know who the fuck you are. And it's like on to something else. But it is a, it's amazing thing that you did for yourself. And congratulations on that. That's great.

And I, you know, I love your story. You told it really well. We're like right at the time. And we got, you got right up to where you're at right now. Yeah. Yeah. So right now, yeah, talking about just being more comfortable and just still learning who I am and stuff. So then I, so since I cut off this, the woman with a cop that I met in rehab, so now I started going on dating apps.

And then I was like, let me see. Let me get out there. I'm feeling more confident. Life is good right now. Like, let me get out there. And so nothing really developed as far as like the straight dating app. Yeah. But then I'm also on like gay dating app, like Grindr. Uh-huh. That's cool.

I'm on there. And that's where I've been, so I've been dabbling more in there. And that's where I've been meeting. I actually met, oh, yeah, I was on Bumble. And I met one of the trans girls that I mentioned to. I met her on there. She was cool. We hooked up. She came over one night and talked, but it just didn't, it didn't work, whatever. It fizzled out. It was just a hookup. And I've been on Grindr, I've, I'm kind of like flirting with some guys, but then I've hooked up with a couple of cross-dressers recently. So that's kind of where I'm at. I'm just enjoying everything.

I was explaining this to one of my best friends. And he's like, dude, you're just fluid right now. You just love everything. You like everything that feels good. Guys, girls, trans. It just hit me. It sounds exactly like what you just said, where like when you stopped drinking, you kind of went back to like your 15-year-old. Yeah, there you know.

Since I've stopped, I guess, I guess now that I've stopped drinking, I kind of went back to my younger self when I was going on Craigslist. All that stuff. Yeah. All that stuff that you were into. All that stuff you were curious about. That's in you. That's a part of you. And maybe, you know, you're getting back to that and figuring it out. And that's all a part of what you said where you're just like just starting to figure out who you are. All that stuff has to come back around because that's what being young is all about. That's what you do. That's what people do in their fifth and their teens and 20s and stuff. And if you skip over it because you're so fucking loaded all. the time. You got to go through it. So you're doing it now and who the fuck cares that you're 40 in doing it. It's never too late and it's great that you're doing it now. And I give anyone credit that gets sober and life is so much better for somebody that is an addictless. And I'm not against drinking. Some of the best years of my life were spent drinking and I could pour people alcohol and watch them get drunk in front of me and love the fact that they're wasted. But I just can't drink myself because I'm an addict. And once an addict, always an addict. It is true. So don't

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All right. Awesome. Awesome. I love this story, Kevin. Thanks so much for calling and sharing. It'll definitely be up soon. Awesome. Thanks, Kathy.

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