Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 876 - FETISH FRIDAY: Bryan is Into Pantyhose, Crossdressing, Humiliation and More

Episode Date: July 19, 2024

Brian is into pantyhose, crossdressing, humiliation, and more and he called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including the first time he realized he was into pantyhose as well as other feminine clothing, how he got caught by his mom wearing pantyhose and then caught him dressing up in a lot more and how she reacted, how he felt about his fetishes when he was younger, his fantasies of humiliation when he was younger and why he remembers them, how and why his mom eventually allowed him to dress up at home, how and why he was never into sex, when he started meeting up with a woman he met online while he was dressed up and what went down, how he met his wife and how and why she’s not into sex at all and how their sex life has been while married, how he is into SPH (small penis humiliation,) how and what why he enjoys a female led relationship and the humiliating things his wife makes him do, how he wants to be cucked and how far his wife will go with his cuck fantasies, how and why he’s reluctant to push her into his comfort zone but why he should plus a whole lot more **To see anonymous a pics of BRYAN'S STASH plus see anonymous pics of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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bit of a lot of stuff going on here with Brian. Okay. He's into cross-dressing. He's into wearing pantyhose. Then he was into wearing all kinds of things, right? There's a cross-dresser. And then he has a small penis and then he's into humiliation. And then he wasn't really into sex. And he would always be with girls who weren't into sex. So then he met his wife who wasn't that into sex. But she's into fucking humiliating him. He was very open with her at a certain point and told her all the things that he was into and she gets down with him and and he does he is also on top of all the other things that he's into he is also in like a female led relationship his wife rules the roost their dynamic is super interesting to hear how it plays out and you're going to be like wow this couple is actually

perfect for each other it's a super interesting story i have picks of brian dressed on my patreon if you want to see them but you're going to love his story because like i said it's got a little bit of a lot of stuff going on that Brian and his wife. You're going to find her interesting too. So I'm going to get right to it and be right back on with Brian. Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? You're going well. Thank you. So listen, Brian, this is what I know about you. The less I know the better, I feel like my curiosity is going to run the call. You are a cross-dresser. That's into panty-hose. And you said you're into other things too, which I don't really know what those other things are. You're going to explain them. You sound. You sound.

young to me, Brian. How old are you? 50. You're 50? You sound young. Are you married with kids? Yes. Married and two kids. Yeah, well, maybe you sound young to me because I'm like around your age. So it's all fucking relative. Okay, so you're 50. You're married with kids. Okay, so let's go back. Do you consider yourself a cross-dresser? Is that safe to say? Yes. Yes. Okay. What came first? Pany hose cross-dressing. Let's go all the way back when you first started wearing female clothing. Was it panty hose first? Was that like your gateway drug? What started it off? Yeah, so I actually remember seeing my mom get dressed for work one morning

and she was tucking her shirt into the panty hose when I walked past her room and that was, I think that's where it all started. Oh my God, that's so interesting. Only because I have a son, so I'm always thinking about him. You were probably like really little at that time, right? Yeah, I was like five years. years old. I think of what I remember around that time. And I remember seeing that and it just, I don't know what happened, but it just ingrained into my brain. And the next thing I know,

I was literally in the closet. And she caught me wearing her panty hose and laughed it off at first. And yeah, it just kept catching me. And then I moved to my sister's stuff. But then it quickly, it quickly went from just panty hose to actually dressing up like a girl, right? I would definitely consider myself listening to your shows. I would definitely to consider myself a hoser, though, but it did quickly progress to other things. Yeah, like I always said if there was like a Venn diagram, like not all hosers or cross-dressers, not all cross-dresses are hosers, but there definitely is an overlap. Tons of cross-dressers are hosers.

Then a lot of times the panty hose is, like I said, the gateway drug, right? It's like that first thing that comes into play and then it progresses, like you said, from there. So, but, and you were like the minute you saw your mom those pantyose, You were like on it stealing her stuff. You said she was laughed it off at first. Then what happened? Did she get mad at you?

I wouldn't say she ever got mad. I think she got concerned. That would be a better word. Yeah, right. I remember her speaking to the pediatrician and she told me about it like, hey, I spoke to him. And he kind of laughed it off. Oh, he's just experimenting and relax. And then I remember she bought me like boxers, right?

So I was wearing like five, six, whatever. age that was like the tidy white so she was like okay well let's get in boxers that's more masculine i guess in her mind so she got me that but it didn't and not a bit mattered it was like i was like instantly hooked i wanted pennies and i wanted dresses i wanted skirts i had a thing for one-piece bathing suits and like the leotards right my sisters are only two years older than me so it was like the ballet stuff right i absolutely loved that and then it was weird because i liked things with straps in the back, right? And that's the latart, the one-piece bathing

suits, you know how they have the straps and stuff? I don't know why. And then I liked in the summer, right? I liked having the sun tan with the lines there, right? Like I liked seeing them in the mirror. I don't know why, but yeah, it's just, yeah, little things

that just crept into my head as a kid. And it didn't stop. Now, when you said your mom went to your pediatrician, I was assuming it was about the hose? Was it because she caught you wearing panties then too? besides the panty house? No, no. Initially it was just the whole pantyhoast thing, right? And that was just, hey, that's them. You know how it is. Right. We're 50, right? So back then it was just like, oh my gosh, is he gay? Is he this or whatever? I think still parents, listen,

the only reason why we know that this exists is because A, you have the fetish and B, I talk to people like you all day long, okay? But like most people, I don't think even to this day, if a normal woman, like a regular woman that's never known about like fetishes and stuff, found her little son wearing pantyos, she'd be like, what's the, the fuck does that mean? Like, she wouldn't get it either. I still think they would want her because I don't think a lot of people get that this is a fetish and a very common one at that. I'll tell you that. Oh, it's definitely common. I didn't realize that until AOL came around and, you know, the internet and I'm like, holy cow, I'm not even, I'm not the only one because for the

longest I thought I was the only one, the only call stress or the only whatever. And it's like, you quickly realize, heck, your show is, you know, is incredible. Because you, you know, just realize there's all types of people out there. And it's awesome. Yeah, well, that's what's so great about the internet, right? People could put, like, technology down all they want. I fucking love it. And one of the greatest things I think about the internet is, is that you really realize,

like, you're not alone. I think it's actually quite comforting, especially if you're a guy like you, who's into all this, like, shit, right? Because it could be confusing as a little kid. Yeah, actually, it's funny. When I'm just sitting here talking to me right now, like, thinking back to when I was a kid, I don't even feel like I was confused. It was like, I knew what I wanted and I wanted that, right?

Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, the only thing that I worried about as a kid was anybody else potentially finding out. But it was like, there was no confusion. I knew what you were into. Yeah, I knew what I was into. It's weird. Like you don't know the names of things, right? When you're a kid, right?

Like, I think Rob, Rob, Rod, you spoke to him because, you know, he's the CEO. And, hey, you're an alpha type and you're in that position. in a power and he was like well you know actually i was fantasizing about that when i was a kid and it's like i i feel like this when he said that i was just like me too finally someone someone else out there like understands because it's i'm very much an alpha in everyday life very much an alpha right at work i'm very high up i was in the military i went very high up in the military and but yet early on it was my the only real fantasies i've ever had are were about humiliation i never when I was young, I never had fantasies about having intercourse with a female, right?

It was always being made fun of being made to dress, that type of stuff. And it's, yeah, it was interesting to hear him say that because I would always say the same thing. My wife and I would talk in this. Maybe this is why I like being submissive because I've always been like empower, I guess. Yeah, yeah. Even as a little kid, me and him tried to analyze that, right? Because he was like, oh, but I wasn't always alpha.

But I'm like, but maybe you, like, I think alphas are born. way. And then he did car. You said that. Yeah. Yeah. He was alpha even when he was little, right? He was like captain of everything and all that shit. But was interesting, though, about him. That's a little bit different with you. And I don't know if you heard what he said in his episode because I thought it was like super interesting. Like he would like dress up and do stuff and put on some outfits. But for him, it was just because he wanted to be humiliated. He did not identify as a cross-dester or into anything that he did while he was humiliated. Right? It was like he was just into humiliated. and whatever that was that he didn't want to do became like what he was into, right? Because he did cross-dress, but he didn't consider himself a cross-dresser. But you definitely identify, though, as a cross-dresser, correct? Oh, yeah, absolutely. That was the one big difference between him and myself, right?

He absolutely said that it was more the humiliation of doing something where I want to be humiliated for doing something. You know what I mean? So, yeah. All right, so let's go back to like your childhood. So you're wearing all that stuff. It's clear to you, but you just didn't want to get caught on. some level, even though you're super young, that this

isn't like what you should be doing. Yeah, you know that. I mean, boys, girls, right. Exactly. Yeah. So you're dressing up though fully now. You're stealing your girls stuff. Now, did you ever get caught like dressing up in other things besides the panty hose? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, boys, girls, right. Exactly. Yeah. So you're dressing up though fully

now. You're stealing your girl stuff. Now, did you ever get caught like dressing up in other things besides the panty hose? Oh, yeah. It got to a point where it was just known. In your house? Yeah, in my house. Yeah, I would just dress. Yeah, no, I would dress in the house, but then it was like one of those things. here's where it was too. So my mom then sent me to counseling and I think where she just kind of like gave up was I'll never forget this was so it was the pinoes and she had just started catching me dressing and so I had to go to counseling. I remember I'm like 10 years old and I'm sitting in front of a counselor talking about wearing painios and stuff and not really so confused because I'm a kid and I'm like I don't even know this person and she's asking me all these questions but I remember her telling my mom like hey don't don't make him stop because he's going to keep doing. it like don't try to restrict it because he's just going to find a way so it was at that point it was

kind of like i think my mom just shrug your shoulders and said okay i give up so it just but then there there were set rules like hey if we have company coming over there's no dressing if we go out you're not going to be you're not wearing a dress outside of the house around the neighborhood like i had a neighborhood girl that i played with like i could dress up and go play outside with her and stuff like that but it was like if any company came over it was like absolutely forbidden don't talk about it. Don't even, don't act like a little girl. It was just kind of like, so, and yeah, so I had it, I considered that easy, pretty good. I definitely did not push the, I did not push the envelope, put it that way. You kind of didn't have to eventually, you kind of pushed it to the point where

you pushed your mom over the edges. There was nothing she could do except to allow you to in a weird way. Like I give you credit and I don't hear that story often, right? A lot of times the kid gets, quote unquote humiliated by being caught and then they really hide it more because that's the last thing they ever want to happen again. But you were just like kept doing it to the point where now you're like kind of had free reign to do it in your house. Did you have a dad in the house? No. Yeah, it was just a mom. Yeah, I think that that's easier, don't you think? Oh yeah, without a doubt. I don't even know if it would have ever happened. Right. If I had a dad, I probably would have just seen it and walked on. Oh, you think that what, that you, that you

You would not even have been interested in it if you had a dad? I don't know. I just, you know, I would have had that male influence, and I think I would have just probably looked in there, seen it, and then see my dad 10 minutes later or something like that. And I don't think so. Completely be gone. But I don't know, right?

I don't think so interesting about the brain to me. Yeah, no, listen, I'm going to do a poll. I love doing polls on Patreon. Like, we break everything down and I get so many interesting answers. I'm going to do a poll of, like, how many hosers and crosshusters were raised by a single mom compared to a two-parent household, right? Because that would be super interesting. I don't think that that makes sense.

Listen, I have a son, and I'm a single mom. There's no guy around, and my son has seen panty-hose and a lot of shit going around. And I'm very open-minded. He would put them on, and I saw him. But he never had any interest in it. He's never looked, touched, felt. I just think it's something that's kind of in you. I don't know that it has to do with that.

And that some guy would have walked in and been like just erased your memory of what you saw because it's that moment. It's that thing. I think it like sort of spark something that's already in you. I don't know. But that's, I'm no therapist. I don't fucking know. I don't really think it's the lack of that because, but I'm going to do the poll.

You're, you've inspired a poll. Guys, but let me ask you this because you did say, and this is getting a little head, but I'll go back to where we're at in the story. You did say like you were wearing all these things and you were, you're dressing up like a girl. Did you ever at that time feel like you wanted to be a girl? Or was it always like just wanting to dress up and. feel like you're a girl for a small amount of time, but you were comfortable being a boy? Yeah, I remember saying on multiple occasions, I want to be a girl, right?

That I loved. Yeah, so I'm six foot three, right? Wide shoulders. And I've often thought if I was five foot seven or five foot eight, I would be a lot more open with who I am. Because you could be passable, you mean? Yeah, yeah, passable, right? But I know.

So yeah, it's a tough question, right? Because I live my life and I'm happy. But at the same time, if you were to ask me, because I've heard you ask people and shares, what is your ultimate fantasy? I don't know that I would want to be a girl. Put it this way. I'm very much.

I like, I have a small penis. I like that. It's like it all goes together for me. You know what I mean? With the submissive, sissy, humiliation, all of that stuff. It just kind of all goes together. So I just want to be me.

And I think being me would be a lot more, men, then masculine. I would lean towards that role more often. Like, I would definitely be going out dressed in female clothing, right? I don't need to be going out in the fetish, like, sissy dress or something like that. Like, I don't need attention. Like, I would literally want to just go out and be accepted as a woman. Not even, not even have anybody turn an eye, right?

You know what I mean? Just live my life. I would love that. Yeah, that's interesting. Well, listen, you were kind of given free rate. Like, you were able to dress up a lot at home. Like I said, I'm super impressed with that part of your story. I haven't really heard it, that it got to that point and that your mom kind of allowed it.

And even your friend in the neighborhood knew and stuff, you were kind of out and proud without ever really thinking about it now, like when you were little, don't you feel like? Yeah. But I don't want to take anything away from my mother. Don't get me. But I still go back to, I remember her kind of like just throwing her hands up like, this is what the therapist said. So you could do it. But this is the rules that you're going to follow, right? So don't get me wrong.

She still let me do it. And I appreciate that all day long. But it's like, I don't know if that therapist hadn't said what she said. I don't know that it would have gone down that way. I think she would have kept. Oh, no, probably not. No, she would have. But listen, the fact that your mother knew to ask somebody else what to do in this situation,

instead of figuring it on her own and just doing what she wanted to do, which was probably don't fucking dress up ever again. And I never want to see it. The fact that she deferred to the therapist. and allowed you to go there and then took what that woman said and listened to her is pretty huge, okay? Because there's a lot of parents out there that would do the opposite. They'd never send you to therapy. They just tell you the way it's going to fucking be.

End a story. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, without a doubt. Yeah, she never spoke down to me. Yeah, she just never spoke down to me. I would, if I was in that house or I would, and nobody was there, I was wearing women. I was wearing girls clothes. It's that simple.

Yeah. So listen, it doesn't matter that the therapist. told her the fact that she, and the fact that she was open to sending her son to therapy back in those, still to this day, there are parents nowadays. I have my son with friends who are so fucked up and their kids, their parents don't take them to therapy. They don't look into their problems. People are still very anti-shit like that. The fact that your mother did that back in those days kind of makes her a little bit more evolved than most moms in from that time, for sure. Yeah, no, she was good to go. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying anything about my mom. Yeah, yeah, but I, listen, I know that. that she wasn't like, this is so great. You know what I mean? I think it's confusing because, listen, I know so much about this fetish because I talked to a lot of people, but I think for a parent when they find out these kinds of things with their kids,

even if they're trans. A lot of times they don't understand yet. But anyway, so let's get back to your story. So did you ever think that you were into boys as well, like when you were dressed up as a girl? No, honestly, it's never even thought about that, right? It was, honestly, it was all about dressing up for me. It wasn't, like, sexual. It was just humiliation, like being humiliated, right?

And then that's what, you know, when I finally started getting aroused, exactly by a girl. That's when I started to get aroused. And I'm like, oh, this is what's this going on? So dating, dating, it was interesting. So I never dated until I got to high school. And you have to play. It's society. So you play to society a lot when you're hiding who you are.

And so what I knew I didn't want to have sex, right? I never thought about sex like I just said, right? I never, I didn't want to have sex. So who did I date? realize you didn't want to have sex. I don't know that you clearly said that. You did say you liked humiliation. So humiliation had nothing to do with sex is what you're saying. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. I was put it this way. I was scared sex. Put it that way. That's a better way. I was I was scared of sex. Right. So it was so who did I look to date? It was, hey, this girl's a virgin. Oh, she's a virgin. She's never going to have sex. She's pure. And I'm like,

okay, that's the girl I'm going to date because I don't have to worry about I don't have to, I don't have to worry about her expecting me to, want to have sex with her and I can just hang out with her and be good and I never told any of them when I was through high school and I probably only dated two it was two girls really I dated one of them funny enough right like I'll say it now is like she wore panty hose all the time but she was like one of those like good girls I never had to worry about anything but I got to hang out with her and rub on her panty hose so it was pretty good yeah she didn't realize you were going all the way for what you were interested in anyway. Yeah, so you feel guilty.

Like, I look back on my life sometimes, and I'm just kind of like, it's, it wasn't fair to her, right? Because I actually remember one time, I was rubbing her opinion. It was one time she was like, do you like my peony ears or something? I was like, no, no. But I do look back because I am a person. I mean, she's a person. I mean, you just, I don't know.

I want to be a good person. But if I look back and I'm like, I literally used these people. And granted it's high school and everything, all kinds of things happen when you're in high school. but I'm like, I look back on things like that. And even though it's actually pretty small on the big scale of things, it's still bothers me that. Yeah. Yeah.

I feel bad like I was a fraud. Yeah, well, listen, what I'm going to say to you on that is kudos to you for feeling that way. That makes you a good person, right? Nobody's perfect. So those are your mistakes. You look back and you regret them, which right there shows that you're not that person, but you did that at some point. And I'll tell you, though, from those girls standpoint, those girls were probably really

fucking happy to be with a guy at that time and have a boyfriend that didn't push them to do what they didn't want to do at that time. And so it probably worked for the both of you in whatever way. So I'm sure if you sat down across for them, they wouldn't be like, oh my God, you fucked up my whole life. You know what I mean? Like you were like a, you were a companionship for them. You were like a guy and you weren't pressuring them, which probably for those girls, you smelled something in them that they weren't going to push you. They were the good girls and they were probably happy to be with a guy like you. So I think it all worked out okay. So you could give yourself a break. All right. Thanks. Yeah, but the fact that you feel bad about it, I think is a good thing. You know what I mean?

Like that just shows that you're okay. But you could let go of that guilt. But so I know you did say something about your wife. Like when I've talked about this with my wife. Eventually, you meet her and you do tell her, correct? Oh yeah. I told her. So actually, so I was in the, so I was like I said, in the military. And so that's when I was hard in the military, right? Because you're moving around and you have roommates and this kind of stuff. And then finally, I had my own apartment and then AOL was there. And so I'm like, what? All these people.

And I start meeting people. And so then I even start meeting girls. And you tell them online, you're hiding behind a computer. But then I would go meet them. And then, yeah, it was fun because now I'm hanging out with girls, still not really having to have sex or whatever, but it was just, yeah, you meet some interesting people, obviously. But what were you looking on those?

So I'm assuming when you're talking about this online stuff that you're doing, it's not like you're on Match.com, like you're doing AOL chat rooms and stuff. What are you like hooking up with these girls and meeting them for? Just like I would meet them and kind of like dress up because they'd be like, what, no way. And then it's what I do. And I would always go to their place too, which was interesting and scary at the same time, like looking back. but I would show up to their place.

They'd always be girls? Yeah. Well, yes. In the beginning, it was girls, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The first few times it was girls. And then I would go over there and remember, I'm still like a virgin at this point. I'm not done anything.

So I'm like showing up and when I'm dressed up or whatever, I get dressed up at their place sometimes where I show up at dark and I am dressed up and I'm going in and I'm meeting these girls. And I remember one was like having me finger and I'm like my whole, pretty much. I just felt like my whole hand was going up there and I'm like what is going. I just remember being like in complete shock. I don't know what's going on. I've never done any of this stuff before, but I'm like actually dressed up in front of a girl. So if she wants my hand up her inside of her all four fingers, then I'm taking four fingers and I'm doing it.

Right? Just because it's like my thrill, the thrill that I was getting was I'm actually hanging out and talking to her girl. So then it was like, all right. So what about other cross dressers? And then so I remember meeting a transatlose. person actually before trans became a thing really I guess you know how it is nowadays it wasn't back then yeah so I met I met one of those and I was like this isn't where I want to be it was like it was a dirty apartment it was just and seemed a little dark right yeah it was like kind of like it was just

dirty and I didn't feel comfortable I was like I'm not in my element here so I didn't enjoy that one and then I met with a cross-dresser and I did suck him but then it was like you could tell he like this was he was nervous or whatever and it was like nothing was going to happen there so i just remember him he ended up jerking off and coming on my tights but then it was like you could tell he like this was he was nervous or whatever and it was like nothing was going to happen there so i just remember him he ended up jerking off and coming on my tights so you did hook up with guys like why yeah twice that was it okay but you tried it just because they were dressed though they were dressed as women yeah exactly interesting okay so there's a difference

So that was those two And I was like, nope, I don't want anything to do with this. This is just, that's not what I want. So then it was like weird. I met this girl. And it was kind of like a cuckold experience, but I didn't know what cuckold was back there. I had no idea.

All I know is she knew I was like feminine. I was her cissy friend. But she would go out with these dudes. She would bang. And then she would come over to my place at 1 o'clock in the morning and had me go down on her. And then she would lay there with me. She knew my nipples were sensitive.

if she'd rub on my nipples, she wouldn't stay for me to masturbate or whatever, and then she would just leave. And I just remember going, I wouldn't marry this girl. Like it was like, I was like, I'm so in love with her. And then the next girl after that was, she was into pegging. I didn't know what that was at that time. So we tried that. And yeah, I liked that a lot. But, you know, like I said, I'm in the military people transfer, right? So she was in the military. So she leaves. And now she's out of my life. And then probably like the next year is when I met my wife and probably three weeks into dating. I was like in my wife was one of those two who she was kind of a rude, I'll say very don't touch me and whatever whatever. So I like felt safe with her as well. Like I didn't have to

You still a virgin at this point? No, not a virgin now anymore. Right. Like the girl that did the pegging was when the first time that I actually had sex and it was not fun. Like I didn't enjoy it. But yeah, I didn't enjoy it. Anything I enjoyed was, it's funny how you always, you always, you're like, yeah, the guys always ask the women and the women never say, hey, never think to say, yeah, you are small. She did say it. Oh, she did? Is that the one you're like, I want to marry her? Yeah, I kind of knew like she wasn't really a match. She was just a match because, you know, the dressing, the pegging and stuff like that. But it was just other things where I'm like, I don't think we would have been. Of course. But she gave you the answer, though, that you wanted, which is. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, 100% yeah. Yeah, yeah. So that was cool and stuff. But she was a cool girl anyway, but she, I just, I never got the sense that she was going to get her shit together. If you know what I mean, it just like really be something.

Like, I think it like life's the game and it's like it is, but it's not, right? There's a time to go after things. So, so yeah, so I met my wife. And shortly after I told her first about the penny hose and tights. And she was a little weirded out. But then it was just like, okay, and then I told her about everything. And yeah, we started going from there. But it was probably, we were probably together almost a year before, like, we even did anything sexual.

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Sex has never been in an important part. of our marriage and we've been together 19 years. Well, listen, you're perfectly suited for each other because it sounds like, for some reason, like that works for the both of you, right? Like, she's fine with that because maybe she's prudish or whatever she has going on with her. And you have always felt uncomfortable with sex. So, of course, you're naturally attracted to or you smell that girl across the room, right?

That's going to be the one that doesn't really want it that much, right? So you guys make the perfect pair. Because has anyone ever complained about the lack of sex in your relationship? Probably just me, right? And it's not the, well, it's not the lack of sex, put it that way. It's the lack of. Humiliation. Hey, yeah.

Well, no, no, she does that. But it's like the lack of, hey, how about let's do pegging more often or let's do, she's the one that just, for whatever reason, she's never been interested in sex. I've even asked her, does something happen to you in the past? Why don't you go get counseling? Like, you're missing out on a part of life that every human being, should get to experience and enjoy it. And I was like, I feel like she has some wall up that she's just, I don't know what she's afraid of. But at this point, I'm just kind of like, all right,

if she doesn't care, who am I to push her? You know what I mean? So, and if she's happy, like, the way she, we do it is she'll still throw on tight and put a vibrator down there and then she grinds against me. And the reason she wears tights in the beginning was because I liked it. Now it's because it actually helps hold the vibrator in place. Oh, so hands free. Yes. Yeah. I'm just like, I listen to your show, right?

There's plenty of posers out there who have wives that don't know or wives that know and they're not approving. And I'm just kind of like, okay, look, I would love to be a cockold. I would love. There's a lot of things I would love. But you know what? It's just those things aren't that big of a deal to me when it's, I literally can wear, I wear panties and tight. Like I'm right now in my office wearing panties and tights. And it's not even a thing when I work from home.

I wear everything during the day. Or sometimes I'll have a regular shirt on top, but I'll have a skirt and tights on underneath. You know what I mean? If you get on a camera. And that's just the norm. Yeah, 100%. Just the norm. She doesn't care.

Yeah, there's all humiliation stuff. But it's, yeah. So who am I to complain? That's where I'm at is like with her. There's a lot of people who would give anything to be in my position. So I'm not going to push her to do something she's not comfortable with. Well, listen. When you have asked her in the past, do you have, do you think anything ever happened to you or why do you think you're so not into sex?

Has she ever been able to give you an answer? And is it penetrative sex that she's not into? Is it also oral? Does she not do anything? Yeah, nothing, right? Does she give you blow jobs? No, never. She's never touched my penis with her mouth.

Never. Even like me going down on her, it was like I tried when we first started a date because I'll do that all day long, right? because I don't have to worry about my small penis or whatever, right? So, and I'm pretty damn good, I think, right? Because you have a small penis, right? So, but yeah, she like giggled. And it's just, I'm like, okay, like, she's just, she comes from a very, very religious. And I think that something got in her brain and it was just kind of like anything sex is bad and don't even think about it, whatever. Because, but she's happy. And that's where to me, it's not. Well, maybe she just doesn't know. She doesn't know what she's missing or something.

that's what I tell her. It's like, you're missing out. But let me ask you this. Has she ever, though, does she, she jerks off with the vibrators and she does have orgasms, right? Clitoral orgasms all the time and she's into that. Maybe something happened to her and she doesn't, sometimes listen. Sometimes a lot of people are molested when they're younger. It's just like a fucking fact. Like I think they say one in four and it's probably more than that. Okay. It's not like an uncommon thing that happens, unfortunately. And a lot of times those memories are completely repressed. Someone has no, thoughts of them. She could completely, like she could have zero memory about anything that happened to her yet she hasn't. I think something's got to be going on. Listen, I came from a very religious background, but I like, fuck the world. I went against it. So sometimes I think, do think, though, if you have

a heavy thing, it could be either you go one way and you become very promiscuous or your sexuality is very repressed. It could just be that it's so repressed because of how she was raised. I don't think, listen, as her husband, it, listen, it sounds

like you get have gotten her into a lot of different things. I think you guys are perfectly matched up because you're both kind of like on the same page in a lot of places that other people would like would not be able to deal with the stuff that you bring to the table and the stuff that she brings to the table. But you're both together. You make a great team. But I do not necessarily think you quote unquote trying to push her past her stuff is necessarily that bad of a thing. Do you know what I mean? I know that you're like oh I don't ever push her. Why not try to. push her. Why not try to help her try to push herself into places that she's never been, that she's afraid of it that maybe she would actually enjoy it. Maybe try that at some point.

It's not so terrible. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So I use as an example, just started listening to your show earlier this year, right? And just, holy cow, you just hear about the people and whatever. And so I got her to listen to a few of the podcast, right? And then so I started, we have a strap on that I would wear for her, right? And you can see her the face. that she makes when it's inside of her, right? And you can see pure pleasure. It's pure pleasure. Okay.

And that's what I tell her is I see your face. And I love when your callers say, when I get so turned on, seeing my partner turned on, because I'm like, that's me. I'm like, I can see it in your face. Like, just let me do this. I want to make you, like, feel good. And then she's, and then next thing you know, she's, yeah, but the orgasm wasn't that good.

It was a good orgasm, it don't get me wrong. But if she's like, it wasn't that good. Then she'll throw the tights don't get on top and grind. against me. I'm like, we're lesbians at this point. Right? Well, she might. Yeah, but also, let me just tell you, there is a thing, like, when you over-stimulate your clit with a vibrator too much, like, that's why I used to hate vibrators when I was younger, because, like, your cock is never going to do or your tongue. Like, nothing can match a

vibrator, okay? I'm sorry, it can't. And what happens when you use it too much, I feel as a woman, it definitely happens, is that you get so used to that kind of stimulation that nothing compares and then it's like really hard to get into a regular kind of stuff so i always used to stay the fuck away from vibrators constantly because i i always felt when that would happen i'd be like oh fuck that like i can't get off on this guy going down on me because it's not like a vibrator so she might just be using vibrators too much like seriously and so she stopped using a vibrator for six months maybe other things start feeling better i'm telling you as a woman they numb you out and listen you could always get off on a fucking wand or a vibrator trust me i've been a big idea you're

been in that place. And then I'm like, oh, shit. Recently, I've been trying toys for my show because I want to do a whole episode. I found the best toy ever on the planet. But this toy is doing shit to me. That is like hands-free, amazing, vibrators sucking, like all this shit that no guy could ever do. And when my booty cold guy came over recently, after I had used it like five times that week, I like took so long to get off at him going down on me. And I'm like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. This is because I've been using this toy too much. You know what I mean? It's like it ruins you. So I'm like, next time I'll stay off it. Your wife has to stay off vibrators for a little bit, I think, and she'd enjoy it more.

Yeah, we should try that because it's funny. Just last week I said to her, I was like, I have the cuckold with fantasy. I was like, I'm a cuckold to a vibrator. That's what I thought last week. But would you want her to be a cuckold to a guy? Yeah. If I had like my wish, it would just be like, yeah, absolutely, I would be a cuckold. And she'd be out there.

Yeah, yeah, 100%. That is the life I would. want like she doesn't work that's where i had a lot of similarities with rob the money the shopping all of that kind of stuff and we do make such a great team like we are such a great team but yeah if i had my way absolutely i would 100% be a cuckold no doubt let's talk about where you're at because there's so much more to your story right i'm just like so obsessed with this little part about both of you not really being into sex and there's just so much more there but let's talk about like the humiliation and how you kind of are also in like a female led relationship do you feel like because that's what

Rob was talking about. You keep referencing Rob for people that haven't heard. He was a guy I had on recently who was in a female-led relationship type of situation. And humiliation always comes into play. And this would go with the humiliation part of you, right? Like how is it set up in your marriage with your wife? Yeah. So it's like I never really knew about SPH or like really, like I knew I knew I got off on that. But I didn't know it was a thing, right? I didn't know it was. was such a thing put it that way everybody knows it's a thing but i didn't know it was that big of a thing like where it had the initials sph i didn't know that um so it's funny because when it was the julie the other one the mean woman who was on there with her people have been analyzing that back and forth

of me yeah yeah i'm like she just sounded mean i don't think what she did was mean that's a part of it i just think she kind of sounded mean that's it end of story yeah no that's fair so she talked about I can't remember what she called his penis because it was small, but my wife calls it like a dumb dumb like the little lollipops. Could I just ask how little your penis is? Can you just give us your stats real quick? It's right under four inches. You're right. Okay.

Are you the person that I just had on my Confessions Hotline that called? Oh, no, there was like a guy that called in. He was like, and he said he was four inches, but I was like four inches thick or four inches really thin? because like I got to tell you if I had a four inch dick that was like really thick I would be happy are you four inches and very thin yeah it's thin yeah I've listened to I've listened to your I've listened to your session to number 500 or whatever I'm we know we're not a match I'd be like your wife will know we can't fuck either I'd be using my vibrator all the time oh my god that's so funny all right go back to your humiliation yeah so that and then Women's clothes in public, right? If we're not where we live, there'll be women's clothes in public,

but no, like, wig or makeup or whatever. Like, it's clearly, there's a guy who's... But she's telling you to do this? Like, what how... Yeah. So she's leading this stuff. This is how she humiliates you. Yeah.

Uh-huh. Yeah. And then sometimes, like, she'll be there, but she won't be next to me. You know what I mean? It'll be like she'll be 20 feet behind me, just like she's out, but no one would know we're together or whatever. So she's just out there looking at the reaction. the reactions and stuff and just that type of stuff.

If there is even reaction, because here's what I've started noticing too, like way back when I would wear tights or a pinion who's out in public is no one cares, right? They don't see it because they don't expect to see it. Just not like you're so afraid, but then it's like you go out and it's not one person looks at you at work. And it's just, oh, okay, this isn't so bad.

There's nothing to be scared of. Yeah, totally. And then, yeah, like the panties over the head when she's on her. Yeah. Oh, yeah, at home. Like that definitely. Were you going to say when she's on her period? Yeah, when she's on her period, she'll make me wear like the panty liner and then she wears a tampon.

I wear a butt plug. You know what I mean? So as that type of stuff. She came up with that one where it was just kind of like, because I'll make jokes. I think a lot of guys do. Oh, that's why you're being a BITCHH today because you're on your period. That's true. Yeah.

Yeah. And then she's just, okay, cool. Well, you can wear that pad just like on the first few days or whatever. Her diaper. And everything, you can wear it too. So I was like, yeah, inside the panties, it'll be like a penny liner at night. I'll wear the big pad. And then, yeah, I'll have a butt plug in.

And that's my thing. She's like, go put your tampon in, right? It's what she said. So, yeah, that type of stuff. So did she take to this whole humiliation thing, like, early on and was like totally into it? Yeah. So that's what's interesting, right? Is I would talk to her about being a cut cold while she'd be on top grinding, right?

And I would talk about, like, her. being with another guy and then I'm just going to push buttons and just see how long we can go with this and then it's like I'm sucking his you know cock to get it ready for you and she would have the biggest orgasms right you can see everybody knows if you have a spouse or or significant other you see them come over and over like you see things and I'm like oh this is a thing like when we talk about this like it's a bigger orgasm then when we talk about that yeah so I finally got her because she's so like still prudence it took her long time to just be like, yeah, that absolutely turns me on. And so I just feel like there's a barrier.

I feel like we could take a bunch of more steps. But again, at this point, I'm just kind of like, why am I going to push her and make her uncomfortable to the point of where she shuts down completely and then she's out of here. No, but the opposite could happen. You might maybe, listen, a lot of women have a little bit of a fantasy of something that maybe they think that they try, but they're never going to push themselves. But secretly, even maybe subconsciously, they would love it if, like, their guy push them to do it and help them to do it, because then maybe they'd be able to, like, experience that thing that they secretly want to, but they don't want to be the one initiating it. You know what I'm saying? Like, you're not going to drive your girl away. Okay.

Look, this is all the shit you guys do together. There's no driving you. No one else is going to wear a tampon when she wears a tampon. Okay. There's no other you out there for her. All right? She's not going to be able to be with you. with a guy that she's never going to fuck. So she's not going anywhere. I don't think, though, that you, you know, sort of helping her along is necessarily a bad thing. And some women, I think, appreciate that. And if she didn't, eventually she'll stop you. But I don't think it's, I think maybe she needs your help to do that so that she can experience more things. Yeah. And that's fair. Maybe it's, to be honest, in my mind, I'm pushing too much. And I'm

afraid to lose. I'm afraid to, we are, but that's, that's a fair point. And we will definitely be talking about that. She ain't going anywhere. Yeah, I will absolutely bring that up to her because it's just I get to a point and she says no like twice and then she'll talk about like we have kids and then what if anybody finds out and those types of things. Listen, those are valid points and women, listen, women think a lot. We think a fucking lot. Guys don't and that's why there's like a great pairing between men and women because we think very differently. Men think like in a line and women think in fucking circles. Sometimes it's good for the guy to come in and get you out of of your head and just make shit happen.

What does it? But, you know, just communicate the whole way you're doing it. Let her always know that it's her choice at the end of the day. But it's okay for you to push her along. And I'm assuming at this point in your marriage, because you've been together for a while, like, if it gets to a point where she's very uncomfortable, she's going to be like, fuck off. She's not going to leave you. You know what I mean?

It's not going to be that. So I think that there's a way to do it. And maybe she would appreciate it. Yeah. So I don't know. And then it just works because it's like I'm very much into denial, right? Yeah. I don't want.

I don't want to. So that's where I kind of like it was like that other the mean lady too, the way she said it, but not what she did. I got it. But let me ask you a question though, because people have been emailing me and debating me on it. They're very insulted that I called her mean. Did you find her?

Do you know what I'm talking about like when I was like she just kind of sounded mean? Because I asked Rob that when I brought it up on his thing because he is in that same kind of relationship. but it didn't sound like his girl rolled like that. Like I was just wondering, did you find, when you were listening to her, were you like, oh, wow, that's a girl of my dreams? Or did you find her to sound a little mean? I definitely think she was mean when she was like at it.

But then the one thing that I look at my wife and I looked at her is, because you guys had that whole discussion with her about the maternal and the female spends a lot of time, like struggling with, how can my guy want this and all that? Like you, women just naturally want to take care of people. Yeah. And I look at it as like when my wife got past it, she went all in on it, right? On the humiliation and just went all in.

Same thing with her. Yeah, you don't want it. You want to be denied. Cool. No problem. She would get on top and grind and come and then roll off and be like, okay, I'm done. Yeah, no. Yeah.

Yeah. Maybe I'm just jealous. But when she said, when she was like, FM, da, da, da, da, I'm just kind of like, okay, that's kind of strong. Yeah, that's what I mean. I don't think that what she did was wrong. I get it. That's like the perfect setup. I felt like she just,

the way she spoke about it, she sounded a little mean, but she could just be like a colder person, which doesn't necessarily make her mean. I would need to know her more. But your wife, listen, I think that there is something to that. Like you said,

what's interesting, what you said about your wife right there, is that like when she was able to push past that ingrained kind of woman thing where you have to always play this role and she was able to like give that up and totally be like the dude. It was great for her. Like she enjoyed it, correct?

And took it on. Oh yeah, 100%. Like I wear like we tried the chastity thing and it's just that we just never got it to really work. But it's like I'm tucked 24-7, right? Like in the babies and then the tights like it's tucked. And like her thing is like she always come back and like just smack down there. Not hard, crazy hard, but just enough to. And it's just, yeah, it's so it's never.

comes out, you know, so, and it's like, I love it. Let me analyze you a little bit because we did talk about the fact that your wife doesn't really like sex and like her thing, but like you didn't like sex either, like at all for a really long time. Like you said, you were seeking out girls that were like virgin so that you wouldn't have to fuck them. Like, what do you think was going on with you with that? Was it because you had a small penis and you were afraid to kind of show up and pull

your pants on in front of a girl. What was it about sex that you were so afraid of or not into? I think, obviously, a lot of it was also as not just a small penis, right? Because you have a small penis, but then you hear women, oh, it's not science. It doesn't matter or whatever, but then you get on your show and you hear it does. But then it's so it was more anxiety because as you get older, there's an expectation, right? There's an expectation that he has had sex before. So there's an expectation that he's going to know what to do.

And then it was the whole anxiety thing of where I'd be super anxious. And there was a couple of times I got in a situation where it would just like it wouldn't get hard. And it wasn't like it wouldn't get hard. Oh yeah, but not because I wasn't into her. Like she was beautiful or whatever. But it was just the fact that I was so petrified. I had one girl say like, I don't like your thing. She called it a thing.

I don't like your thing because it doesn't get hard when I touch it. Right. And it was just like. So at that point, you know, you hear something like that and you're like, I'm not getting in that situation again, right? You know, because then it's like all of a sudden it's like you're going to be outed for a whole different reason because you're impotent or some shit like that. And it's just like, and it's, damn it, if I'm going to be out of it, I want to be out of because I'm a sissy. Not because my shit won't get hard.

But, yeah. So, no, I think that's what it was, to be perfectly honest, not because I didn't want to have sex. But there, there's just that expectation as you get older, like you should be able to perform. And it's, I knew I wouldn't be able to. Right. Or you were too in your head about it. that you didn't feel like you can. Yeah, definitely in my head I wouldn't be able to put it that way.

Well, listen, did you are like, you like the fact that you have a small penis because I did the host since you listened to a lot of my shows. Did you listen to that doctor that does like the he makes like dick's thicker? Like I mean, you're like, you know, that is a real thing. Like, and it lasts forever. You wouldn't want to, right? If you give in the chance, like if I could just snap my fingers and you could have a bigger dick, would you be like no way because it would just take away all of your fun? Yeah, no, I would say, hey, Kathy, snap your finger and make me five foot seven impassable. That's what I would say to.

Right. So your tiny dick goes more with that, right? That would ruin your five foot seven fantasy, right? Yeah. Yeah, and it's like, I was watching your episode of 500. I'm like, I would just love to sit in a room and just have a conversation with you. You know what I mean? Like as a girl and just have a conversation.

As a girl? Yeah, as a girl and just as a girlfriend and talk about like partners and blah, blah, blah. Not like we are now, but as a friend and have that kind of a conversation. Like that's, that's where I want to be. And then I would even have my wife be in there. I'll be hanging out as girls or whatever. But I know, I'm not really a girl. I just have them every once in a while, be like, hey, you're your little dick.

You know what I mean? You're not one of us, but we're letting you sit here with a type thing. You know what I mean? Just not extreme humiliation, but just those subtle little, you're our little sissy friend type thing. Yeah. If you lost any of those things, you would lose a big part of it because it all works together for you having that small dick you wouldn't want to give it away yeah if you ever get the magic

to snap your finger for me just please go the other way shorter because i was going to say i mean you said you're successful like it's only 10 000 you can make your dick thicker like that guy really does it and i saw before and afterers they're like amazing like it's actual real thing that guys could do which i think is like incredible you know that's absolutely doable but i'll pay 10 000 for my wife to like she does all kinds of stuff and it's like i'll spend the money there yeah she's lucky she could just take your card and just swipe it. You do a little bit of that financial domination too, like you get into that with your wife? You said that a little bit, right? Oh, yeah, 100%. And I think why it works for us is like when I, I'm not saying this to sound corny on your show, right? But it's like,

we are a team. Like we are 100% a team and I love her more than anything in this world, right? It's just, we work. You know what I mean? So she's not, like, I don't want anybody to think like she's mean and she's using me and oh, she's able to get all this stuff. Like, no, it's. It's it just works, right? I know, put it this way, I know when I lay in bed at night and she rolls around, we do not to sound corny, but snuggle, right? I can feel the love in her, right? Like, it's real.

Yeah. So, and it's awesome. That's why I'm so afraid to push her. I don't want her to be uncomfortable. Like it's, but, you know, after today, I am going to push a little further. Yeah. Being uncomfortable in life is not a bad thing. That's where, and a lot of times people don't change and don't push through issues and

stuff because they don't want to feel uncomfortable. but if you get get past that and be okay with being uncomfortable on the other side is like amazing things so it's not so bad to do that and like I said if you do it in a loving way I'm not saying push her and force her to do shit obviously you're not you don't sound like you sound like a very lovely person like you're not going to do that to her you guys sound perfectly suited you're totally on board she's not going to get mad at you either she's going to say hey fucking stop that I'm like no more like whatever but you could just you You push a little bit. There's nothing wrong with that.

And being uncomfortable, there's nothing wrong with that. Those sometimes are like the best moments of your life because you're right about to push through something in a block that you have. And there's nothing wrong with that. I think it's a great place to be sometimes. And if you're with that with a partner helping you, like that's even better. So if people met your wife, because she does have this whole persona at home where she takes the rain, she does all this shit to you. Who is she outside of that? Would people be totally surprised?

surprised isn't even the word right because when i tell you when i tell you like she's innocent when i tell you oh lord yeah i can't even begin to tell you like people would lose like there's no way anybody would believe it yeah but i wouldn't even say hey this is what my wife did people would be like you're you're the crazy one and would they believe that you're doing what you're doing at home and that you like are into what you're into at home so i guess Yes, so here's what I'll say, the alpha role that I live every single day outside. And that's where I feel like a fraud too, right? But then I've learned to accept, hey, there's, and I don't mean this is to sound negative.

Like, there's alpha gay folks. There's alpha females. There's alpha. Like being an alpha doesn't mean you can't be a sissy on the other side. It just doesn't. But I struggled with that for the longest time. So from that standpoint and then some of the, I did some crazy shit when I was in the military, right? I think people would be surprised about that.

but I also talk a lot of shit, right? You know what I mean? And I joke around and I will joke about like open things and stuff. So I think somebody might be like, wait a minute. I remember this conversation. Okay, that's not that far off. Yeah, they would put it together. A little bit more, though, than your wife.

Oh, yeah. Nobody. Oh, yeah. 100%. Anybody that knows my wife just knows she's the mother, right? She's the perfect little mother. But that's why I love your show so much. I have like, hey, listen to this perfect little mother.

Oh my God, I have a guy I'm editing right now and his girl is like really shy and stuff. And then he talks about like their first threesome with another guy and how she like sort of behaved. It's just hilarious. It's always the shy ones or the quiet ones. And that's kind of like the premise of my whole show. It's like I'm here to say these people that you're listening to that are doing all these things, like the soccer moms you're seeing at the games and the guys that are your bosses or your uncle at Thanksgiving. These are just regular people, and this is what some people do.

And they're not like any different than anybody else. Like I had Betty who's doing gangbangs, and she sent me a picture. She's like a soccer mom. Like this is like this regular woman that you would never have any idea. And she's like gang banging for her husband. I just can't make this shit off. It's crazy. Yeah.

I honestly, like listen to your show, I think that there's more people out there that have a thing. You know what I mean? That then don't have a thing. Like, yeah, they just don't say anything. Like we live in this world of hide everything when it's, we really could have the kinks above us above our head and walk around. We'd be like, oh, there's a lot more than you. Yeah. And listen, and look at even the younger generation.

I think that they show it the most because I feel like they, they're so into so many different things and they're out and proud about it because they're just being born in a different time. Right. They're all by. They're all into whatever. Their guys are wearing skirts. Like they don't give a shit. And that's just like who everybody our age was too, but they just had to. keep it into wraps and it became so much more of a thing because you're like repress it.

Like so it makes it actually more intense when you can't sort of let your freak flag fly. So I just think that things are changing. Listen, I'm not a, I'm a nobody. Nobody knows who the fuck I am, but my show, it gets a lot of people listening to it. I have a really huge audience. I see the numbers. So obviously you people aren't just listening to vicariously live through the people. They're listening because they could relate on some level, whether they have the kink and they want to be that person.

or they're living that out and they don't talk to anybody about it. I wouldn't have such a huge following if people weren't into this stuff. Yeah, you're incredible. Your show's incredible, right? It's just, it's incredible. I wish I'd found it, but it doesn't matter. They're all saved. So I'm like, I listen to it all the time.

Oh, my God, like I'm having something. And I'm always taping like two people a day. I have 60 already taped and I'm always taping in the future. And I'm always, and that's why I'm putting out five episodes a week now because I just have so many people wanting to call in and there's so many great conversations. And what I love, is that when I do have one thing on, I get a lot of emails. I had that one guy on who had that female-led relationship and then I'll get like a ton of emails of people who found that episode.

But each conversation is so different, which to me is always so fascinating, right? Rob's female-led relationship was very different than the other guys, but some similarities, right? You're kind of like have things about Rob that is the same but different and same with other crushes. So it's always like a new story because people are individuals. As much as we're the same, and we're all unique. So I love your story. Now, could you send me in picks? Do you want to send in picks for the show?

Does your wife know you're calling in? Is she going to listen to the episode? Yeah, she does not know. I'm calling her, right? Because that's where I'm like the prudish thing is. Yeah, so it's like I do want to tell her right? Because it's just one of, like I said, it's one of those things. I'm like, I just, integrity matters to me, right?

It's a word, right? Of course. All of that kind of stuff, not to sound dorky, but it just matters to me. Right. So there is that, like, I will end up telling her. It's just going to be like, because I know if I talk to me. what if someone hears your voice and I'm like she changes the voice. It's going to be so changed.

But no, your voice is going to be very changed. Trust me. A little change of a pitch is going to make you unrecognizable. Right. So she just, she's so hyper paranoid about that stuff. So I might just be like, hey, listen to, I might be like, hey, listen to this one. But yeah, I'll send you picks. I don't care.

I'll send them like because I can just. Yes, send me picks of you. If your wife doesn't know, I never will post picks on my Patreon of people without their permission, right? So that's why I always ask, does your wife know. If she does find out and you want to send picks of her, that's cool. But if she doesn't know. Oh, her?

Yeah, absolutely not because I would have to take it. Even the way it's to head down, I'll take picks of me like dressed, but it'll be head down, right? You know what I mean? Just like I've seen some of your other ones. And then I love, that's what I loved about your 500. I'm like, oh, you're even anonymous. I didn't know you were anonymous until I saw that. Yeah.

Until I watched that on your Patreon. And I'm like, okay, then I don't have to feel. guilty because I was like, there's no way I'm sending a picture because plenty of folks do send them with their face, but I'm like, I'm not doing that. But that's not the majority. 99% of people are anonymous. That's why people are able to be so open on my show because you keep them anonymous. I'm anonymous. Somebody once asked me, like,

is your secret life, like your show? Is that what you can? I'm like, yeah, actually, just everyone else on my show has a secret life. My secret life is this fucking podcast. That's not my name. Kathy Kay is not my name. I don't change my voice. But nobody knows who the fuck I am. I've been doing my show for like 12 years.

So yes, I'm anonymous. You're going to send me an anonymous box. And then you'll get free access to my Discord. You could go in there when you're... I'm in there. Yeah, I'm already on your Discord. Yeah, I paid for the whole thing. But it's, hey, one thing I did want to say before we were in this is like, I was really

disappointed when I watched your 500 episode, you weren't even wearing any hose. I was just like, all these hosers. I got to tell you. Was I not? Well, let me just tell you. I had so many because I have the whole hoser tear and stuff. And when my YouTube got deleted, it deleted a lot of episodes. episodes, videotaped episodes for my hosers of me wearing hose for them, just so you know.

I did have those episodes up there. And then when my YouTube got deleted, all those videos like went south. So I did eventually start wearing hose for my hosers. But you're right. I should have done that for them. Yeah, it was funny. I just thought it. I was like, she's not even wearing panties.

Yeah, you're right. Because I even thought about you like sleeping in them. Like I sleep in them too. Yeah. I do every night. And that's what I was so interesting about that, that experiment for me. I was like it wasn't even that uncomfortable. And I thought I would like, I hate it.

But anyway, I'm so glad that you're a member over there. Send me in the picks for my thing. Thank you so much for calling in. I love this episode. It's definitely going to go up on my Fetish Friday. So Fetish Friday episodes take a little bit longer to go up, right? Because I like to break up the topics. And so you might have to wait a couple weeks, but it'll be up soon.

Okay. All right. Sounds good. Thanks so much, Brian. Thanks for calling in. All right. Take care. Bye.

Bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and e-book, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang being girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person. And they're all true.

I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person. And I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read, you know, one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format, paperback format. And finally, the audiobook is available coming out August 25th. But you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint. Okay. There's no way you get in.

to my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay, I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other. And that's what you get to do there. You could post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you can win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total, strictly anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord. It's private, like I said. All you got to do is, email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook, the ebook, or the paperback. Send it to me at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com.

That's Strictly Anonymous Podcasts at gmail.com. And I will send you the link to Discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in. This is the Strickly Anonymous podcast. Thanks for tuning in to this week's episode. If you want to be on the strictly anonymous podcast because you have an interesting, naughty story to tell while we're meeting anonymous, you could be on the show. Send me an email, strictly anonymous podcast.com.

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