Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 890 - NAUGHTY CONFESSIONS: She's Into Golden Showers and Scissoring, He's a Cuck who Hides in the Closet, He Identifies as a "C*** Sucker and More

Episode Date: August 7, 2024

Tune in to hear a bunch of naughty confessions and then hear Kathy’ and Billy from the Manwhore podcast’s critique of them. First you’ll hear from a cuckold who got his wife into hotwfing for him, then from a married guy who calls himself a “c*** sucker,” then you’ll hear from aa girl who is into golden showers and scissoring with women, and then you’ll from a guy who wants to get his wife to be more open about sex, and then from a guy who finally got his girl to hook up with his friend. Then you’ll hear Kathy and Billy discuss whether it’s better to have a big dick or better to last a long time in bed, STI treatments that can keep you safe and where to find them, how and why there is a shortage of guys who want their dick sucked, why there is still a stigma when it comes to guy/guy action, Billy’s two golden shower experiences and exactly what went down, the golden shower experience Kathy would be down for, how and why it’s sometimes better to have your partner reveal their fantasies then for you to tell them yours, how and why threesomes can be fun but are also hard work, how and why Kathy thinks kissing is the number one rule most couples start out with when going in to ethical non monogamy and why Billy disagrees plus a whole lot more. Billy's next Naked Comedy Show is August 22nd. Ticket link: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-naked-comedy-show-best-stand-up-comedy-without-pants-in-bushwick-tickets965443707117 and his podcast can be found here: manwhorepod.com/spotify  To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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So anyway, today is a confessions episode. Now, I am now doing my confession episodes with a co-host, which is super fun. I prefer it so much more. I think you prefer it so much more. I did hear from some people like, oh, that was like super fun because now we run the confessions and then I talk to someone about it. I have Billy on from the Manhor podcast again. He's on again because last time we did so many confessions, we had extra ones left over.

So he is on this episode two. In the future, I'll be doing ones with Layla and WIO from sex stories and probably Erica and other people. It'll be super fun. on this episode, me and Billy listened to five different, I think it's five, yeah, five different confessions. First, we hear from a guy who's a cock, and then a guy who's a cock sucker. And then we hear from a girl. She's got a couple of different things in her confession. One is that she's into golden showers. Another is that her and her guy got into swinging, I think. And another one is like

the girl on girl scissors action. She got into. And then we hear from, you know, from a guy who's taking baby steps, getting his wife to be open to hooking up with other dudes. And then we hear from a guy who always wanted to open up his relationship with his girl. And they finally did. Now, the way my confession episodes run is I air the episode and then me and my co-host discuss it. So you hear a lot of different things on this episode besides these confessions. Billy talks about his golden shower experience. We talk about scissoring.

We talk about how long girls really want guys to last when they're fucking them. Me and Billy, we have differences of opinion. But that's why I have guys on, a guy on, because it's fun to get like a different viewpoint of something. We also talk about how to get your partner into the lifestyle, the rules, kissing, a lot of different stuff. I got to tell you, he's a little bit of a contrarian to whatever I say. So there is a back and forth. It's super fun. And I wonder whose side you're going to be on some of the topics that we debate.

What's great is now you can comment on Spotify. So if you want to chime in about that, go to Spotify. You can leave comments now on Spotify, which is super great. So anyway, I'm going to be right back on with the first confession. Oh, wait, I want to tell you real quick about Billy. He is the host of the Manhorpe podcast. And he also does like a naked comedy show in NYC. So if in NYC, he does a show in New York where every comedian, including him,

on stage is fucking naked. There's a link in the description to all his stuff. So if you want to go, it's there. If you want to hear his podcast, it's in the description. But anyway, I'm going to be on with the first confession. Hey, it's Mark. About eight, nine years ago, was engaged at the time

my girlfriend. Never knew what cuck holding was, something that never heard of it. Just until recently. Basically, a good looking guy, beautiful woman. Unfortunately, a guy with a real small dick.

So you know you're going to address, or at least I thought I would address the elephant in the room. After one time of having sex, I pulled out and I flat my dick from side to side. And it's going to sound pretty mean, but it was fishing for a way to live out of fantasy of mine. So I flat my dick from side to side, and I said, hey, baby, you ever had a dick this big before?

And without laughing, she just kind of said, baby, I'm sorry. They've all been bigger than you. Although it sounds mean, that was kind of the answer I was looking for, because it's where to my question, which was, oh, yeah, like who? Because I wanted to hear about some past sex that she had. After several minutes of banter of, I'm not telling you, I said, well, at least tell me about the last boyfriend.

And she goes, oh, no, especially not him. But the way she said it, oh, man, it just, I knew something was, there. So again, after several minutes, she finally said, okay, I'll tell you, it was huge. But being a guy, I wanted to know what huge was, so I was like how big was, seven, eight, nine, and she kind of just said, baby, I don't know how big he was, he's huge, I don't measure dicks before I fuck him. We got us to talking, and I'm a call, we did some mind cuckolding for a while. So we didn't know what the word was, but I'm just going to use that terminology. Every time we'd have sex, we'd talk about him.

I'd tell me how much bigger he is, how much deeper he goes. And it kind of lets him some really good sex between us, because we had some good conversations on it. Well, let me give up enough nerve one time because we did have good communication. So it gave me enough nerve to ask her one time. I said, hey, we do a lot of talking in the bedroom. Can we talk outside?

She goes, sure. and I just brought it up. I said, I have a crazy fantasy. And here goes. I would like you to have sex with your ex-boyfriend. And I'll never forget her response. She said, are you crazy? I said, probably so.

She said, you want me to fuck my well-endowed ex-boyfriend? And I said, yes. She goes, I'm going to tell you up front, he's fantastic sexually. You sure you would want me to do that? After a little while of coaxing and back and forth for weeks, we still did the mind cuckold. Eventually, we did it. And no, I did not see it the first several times. It was fantastic.

It was through the roof after it happened every day. time that was sexually excited. Again, this didn't happen like one, two, three overnight. This was a progression over time. We did some things prior to this. I got to listen on the phone. Again, he didn't know. I did that a couple of times, but I finally asked you, I'd like to see it.

So, yeah, I did the unthinkable. I hid in the closet one time. At that point in time, I'll just tell you, when he pulled his pants down, I was like, fuck, I made the biggest thing. fucking mistake of my life. Yes, he had a huge dick. Good looking guy too on top of it.

Phenomenal after it was over with, we had sex. If I'm going to exaggerate the story, it will be on this one. He probably lasted for anywhere from 25 to 30 minutes. As soon as he left, I went on top of a doubt on there for like 30 seconds.

Although I was extremely excited, I came in about 30 seconds. And I'll never forget her comments. another thing he can go for so long you go for like 30 seconds again we didn't mind cuck holding for a little while and then all of a sudden it just stopped I mean literally cold turkey should say I'm not doing it anymore I don't want to talk about it anything like that not with him but recently sex got a little boring at least from me and there was a lot of stuff in between here I could tell you it would be I go to a lot

more detail about just me and my kink. But obviously, I just kind of jumped to it. She met a guy. She's fucking him right now. Huge cock. No, I haven't seen it. A whole lot different circumstances this time. It's more in her terms because we didn't know what cuck holding was before. Although it's not an extreme cuckold on her like dominating and stuff like that. She does have more control, but it's more of a kind of goes into what you said all the time. Why would a guy let a girl go get fucked by a big dick who's way better at it than you are? So just wanted to kind of give you a little context with the story. Again, there's a lot that I could fill in in between.

Just trying to give you a quick overview, see if this would be something you'd be interested in. I've been living this for probably 10 years, just probably what I call a true cuckold. out here, living out here. And not many people will tell, but I do hear it on your show and they'll love your show. So I just wanted to kind of give you a call and touch face again. Okay, so I just have to address something that he said at the end that I said, he said, oh, and you always say, like, why would you ever let your girl go fuck a guy that's bigger than you?

I've never said that. I've talked to a lot of guys, especially cucks that are totally into that's the whole point, as well as like just guys that have hot wives that aren't extreme cucks that love a guy with a bigger dick than them, not because of any other reasons. and then they just like to see her be pleasureed. So I know that that's a thing. What I typically say and what really surprised me when I started to do my show is that no, most girls, a regular girl, would never think if a guy was showing him, showing you his

size or talking about another guy's dick that he'd ever want you to say that he was inferior or that he was small and the other guy was bigger. And what I've learned is sometimes that's the exact answer they want. Like this guy's swinging his dick around because he knows it's little and he like wants her to say like it's not so great and she goes with it. I think I would have been nicer and been like, oh, no, it's great. You know what I mean? Because no girl ever thinks a guy is going to be into that. But small penis humiliation is a thing.

Having your girl go and fuck another guy when you're hot waving with a bigger cock is a thing. Who knew? Yeah. No, it's my reasons for wanting to be with someone while they get fucked by somebody else or watching someone get fucked by somebody else usually is in the realm. usually is in the realm of the, oh, I just want you to have a good time. I was busy or I had a date or someone's out of town. And someone's horny and wants to go get some. I want them to be able to go get some.

With these confessions, I think it really does demonstrate, like, what can happen when you ask for what you want. Yeah. It's like you can't get it if you don't say, hey, I low-key want to be peed on. Or, hey, like, I want to watch you with another guy. Yeah. Or whatever the fantasy. may be where I want to hear about you go be with other women, whatever it is. I, I just,

I think it's sad when so many people have these fantasies and they're so scared to share them with a loved one. Yeah, totally. I also, it also stuck out to me when we were talking about the stamina because I'm rarely worried about my dick size, but I, I usually am aiming for some stamina. If I can go 25, 30 minutes, I'm very proud of myself. A couple months, a couple months, fact someone rode me on my couch for 35 minutes straight and the entire time I was just like go me. I made it. I did the distance. I felt like an Olympia.

Just like consistent intercourse, no breaks. I don't know. That's usually what I'm going for. I think if you guys the jig like, hey, do you want to get like good sex for a longer amount of time or do you want like the bigger dick? I think a lot of women would say, yeah, let's go longer. Oh, I say the opposite. I would say the bigger dick for the shorter time.

No, I don't want to go for 30 minutes, 35, 35 minutes. I don't want to be riding somebody for that long. No, I want the whole act to be good, but I don't want your dick inside of me for 35 minutes. No, fucking way. Too long. Even after all the foreplay and if the, no, when time I'm there, I want to do five minutes, max, that's a long time.

I don't want a fucking show either. Those guys that just are such pleasers and they want you to come 18 times. I'm just like, oh, so annoying. Two times that I'm good. And I got to wait 20 minutes in the. middle of it. I'm not 17 and I don't have all day to have 10 orgasms for you. Let's go to the next confession. I was a long time listener. First time caller. I've been struggling with it back and forth,

but last night I kind of came to the realization. I am a cockfucker and fucking really like doing it. I've been on and off and with a teenager and purge, get rid of everything and they're like, oh, that was disgusting. I'm never going to do that again. They want to jerk off. And then a few weeks later, it's late, you're browsing critics, you're telling yourself you just want to take pictures or dress up and, but you know where it's going to lead, and it always leads to the same place, and just hanging out with friends, and I always hang out and they're like, oh, I'm got to go, and I sneak off in that rush I get, knowing that they're all still hanging out and partying or whatever, and I'm getting my therapy, and I am in a relationship, and she doesn't

know, she's very anti that kind of stuff. And I love her, but I also like blowing guys. That's kind of like my therapy. So I don't know, the way it feels when the cop goes into your mouth and it's kind of flaccid and it starts getting hard and you cradle the balls just start working the head. But it's one of those things where I love blowjob porn and have the oral fixation. And it's that back-offel moment when you realize that you're watching your technique and their outfit's cute and you think that will look good on you. a whole week you just can't wait to get out there.

That rush you get cruising. It's like fishing. Get your lure out. You talk to bait out and your heart's pounding and some guy follows you down the street and always that bullshit in the morning. Hey, do you have a lighter? And start making small talk and it's like, come on, man. On the morning, we both know where we're here. But yeah, I'll have to tell more of this. I emailed you as well. But yeah,

there's a lot of D.L. married guys. know that basically it's like a therapeutic thing. They just kick back and like me, just kind of vent about stuff while I give them a massage with my mouth. And I feel like it kind of strengthens their relationship, just like mine. They go back relieved and happy and relaxed and the little things that bug them don't bugging anymore.

So listen, Billy, the only thing I'm going to say about this one is because I've had a lot of these on my show and I'm going to defer to you to give your two cents on this one because you're new on my show. But I always tell Mike, I, friends, my straight guy friends, like there are so many guys out there that like to suck dick. And there's not as many dick suckers for those guys. Okay, the guys that call in that are just going to hook up once in a while on the DL, they're always looking to just suck a dick. And they find it hard to find the guy that wants to get their dick sex. So it really is an

opportunity for straight guys out there that can't get ahead. There's so many guys out there that have this specific kink that he does. I can't tell you how many times I've heard from this kind of guy that is into this. And they don't want to get their dick sucked. They don't want anything in return. They want the dick in their mouth. It's like a big thing. And I hear it so much on my show. What do you think about this? Have you talked to a lot of guys about this on your show? I haven't come up with any guys on my show because I think the guys that talk about sucking dick on my show are if identify as queer men of one variety or another. What you're describing is this dick sucker? A shortage. Well, not the this is in the shortages.

of dicks to be, you're describing a shortage of vicks to be sucked. Yeah. And I guess that opportunity's out there. I would have a hard time with that because it's, I don't know, the beard is a big reminder of, oh, this is a man, isn't it? So, like, I don't see that thing for me. Well, you're not into guys at all. I mean, I understand that.

But some people are into it. A lot of people are into it. I do find because I do my show and I have these people calling in and stuff, that's one of the biggest things. things that I learned is there are so many guys that are into sucking a dick every now and then who are straight, just the same as, same like women. I think in my time frame of growing up, there was a time where being bisexual for a woman became very acceptable. And every girl was like, I got a girl crush and they were copping to it. And they're, they wear it as a badge of honor

because it's so fucking hot. But it, that's never sort of happened for guys. So there's still so many of them on the DL doing it because it hasn't become like this great hot thing that you can brag about. But trust me, there's as many guys out there that want to suck a dick sometimes that aren't like you that do, that are kind of into guys every now and then. Can I get them all on my show? Tons of them. And it's sad that a lot of them are married like this guy says. He meets a lot of married dues that are doing it on the DL because unfortunately, guy and guy action, there's still such a ridiculous. stigma attached to it. So people got to keep it under wraps. Sad, but I hear from cock suckers

all the time. The way we make it not stigmatize is for people to outwardly and openly say that it's not a big deal. I have heard from buy men on my show and also not my show who will say, yeah, like so-and-so broke up with me or so-and-so was turned off by me because

I said that they, when they said that they were by. And then like the chick dropped them. Even in the swing, Or singer community. Do you know? I don't know if you talked to a lot of swingers, but I do. And they'll all tell you across the board 100%. That is not even accepted in the swingers community. There's no guy and guy action taking place at hotel takeovers. But yet a lot of those guys are into guys and they got to do it on the DL. Even in that world of such openness, there is still a fucking stupid stigma attached to it. It's so sad. I don't understand it, but it exists. I did an article for Matchable last year where it was about kind of a beginner's guide to swinging it. I did tackle that element of it. And there does seem to be a new guard. I don't want to just say younger guard.

I just want to be newer guard, like a new guard of swinging where that is more acceptable. And there are themed nights that are happening at swingers club. That'll be high guy friendly. And so that what you're describing is totally a thing. To this guy, the only thing I would say is because you have another partner at home, assuming you all are assuming that she thinks she's in a monogamous relationship. I don't think we got that information or not. But I think testing and being scrupulous about who you do play with on the DL is really

important because this isn't just about you exploring something you dig and take on whatever calculated risks you want to. There's somebody else's sexual health involved in this. And so I hope you are getting some doxypep on the side. If all you're doing is sucking dick, just make sure you're not. bleeding from the gums and get some doxypep so that you don't bring home something to her because the next one's an extra consideration to have. This is what I have to say though because I think anybody that's cheating should be protective and what I want to say to this guy what you have to

watch out for blowjobs because I shameless care is one of my yearly sponsors they sponsored the whole year of my show like they when they doxy pep they sell doxy pep which is great but you know this guy's just putting a dick in his mouth and what people don't understand and what the guy who started shameless care found out is that you could have gonorrhea in your throat and have no idea. Well, that's why I said he should take the box. Exactly. In your throat, they test for it at shameless care. You could get the STI and they will actually test for gonorrhea in your throat.

And that's how he found out because he's in the Swinger community. But I think a lot of people don't know that's a thing. Absolutely. Every time you get tested, they usually don't, like one of my doctor's offices has changed. they started asking that, but generally speaking, they don't automatically offer you. You have to usually ask for it. So I always tell people, when you're getting tested, ask for a throat swab for oral gonorrhea and oral chlamydia because that's there. And when it came to the, what would I say to a guy cheating on his girlfriend with another woman is I just want to just

certain different considerations that are different. I would still be saying to get tested, but I would also be saying, like for example, like with the guy with the caller, he also is probably going to want to make sure he's vaccinated for Monkeypox, or sorry, M-Pox, it's called now. Go get that because that is out there. It is not fun. It is some serious business. M-Pox recently had like a mini second wave going around. And it's really easy the vaccination that I have been maxed for M-Pox. I go to a lot of the sex parties I go to are pretty queer. And the, a lot of the people I play with, they play with men who are queer. So I was just like, whatever, let me just go ahead and get this. It's too shot.

I got them like, I think a month and a half apart or something. No side effects. Nothing. But go get that. Because again, you just, it's one thing when it's your health. But don't forget, you say you love this woman, you got to keep in mind her sexual health. And if he was cheating on her with a woman, I would just be like, oh, wrap it up and use columns. This guy is just he's only giving oral sex.

But listen, for the guy, what I think that people don't take into consideration for a heterosexual people, because a lot of times I do find that people tend to be a little bit more like, oh, what kind of STDs do you? as you know what kind of protection do you use if you're gay as if being gay is like the worst thing and you only get it the heterosexual world i can't tell you how many people fuck without condoms or put their cocks on the outside of someone's vagina without a condom you could get stuff that way herpes all the worst shit you could get with it touching your with or without a condom you can get her yes so everyone across the board all i'm saying is everyone i'm very into safe sex i always have been i wouldn't let my booty call guy touch me

me on the outside with his cock without a fucking condom anywhere on my body, okay, at all, because that is like the best safest way to be. But a lot of people don't get that. So I think everybody, regardless, especially if you're cheating, what the fuck are you thinking about? You know, most people don't use condoms in every sense, you know? And a lot of times people will go after the people in the swinger community and be like, did you ask them or the gay men? Did you ask them? No, did you ask heterosexual people across the board? Everyone should use fucking protection. And a lot of times the swinger people stick up for them, they're testing even more so because it's much more intentional. They're not just having sex at randoms because they're drunk in a bar. They know

exactly what they're doing. They're doing it straight. It's thought out. It's planned. They're getting tested and they happen to be very on top of it. There are plenty of swimmers who are also irresponsible about their sexual health. Everybody, let me put it. I'm going to say everybody should be thinking about their sexual health. Exactly. Which is, well, you have a more stringent, and that's fine. You're allowed to have your... I'm just saying that it's not... I felt like you went a little off because it's like guy-on-guy action.

I think everybody should be worried about it. Everybody. Yeah, there's very specific feedback for the guy-o-guy action versus other action. That's why I was giving him bad feedback because I wouldn't tell someone cheating on his girlfriend with another woman to go get vaccinated for M-Pox. For example, I'm of the mind that if you're having casual sex, if you're having sex with multiple partners. And the idea of possibly contracting herpes

not just makes you uncomfrey, horrifies the fuck out of you. You probably should not be having sex with multiple partners. It's just because it's kind of just a reality. It's a risk of all this pleasure. Like HPV and herpes is out there and condoms are not really going to protect you.

Condoms are like, what, 98, 99% affected against HIV. Obviously, we know that there is no such thing in safe sex. There's only safe first sex. And the only way you're going to do that, is by actually doing research. I highly recommend going on the CDC's website. If you want something a little bit more reader-friendly,

scarlet ping.com is a great resource. It is something that anyone can read and understand what's going on. And over there, not listening to me, not listen to Kathy, but on a resource like that, over there you will find out what transmits what, what you need to test for, in which places, transmission rates,

all that type of stuff you can find there. and I think that's the best way to and then when you have that information you can make your own decisions about your sexual health. I did a whole episode with the shameless care guy just about STI's and stuff and he gave so many

really interesting facts and stats and everything. This is he built a company called shameless care.com which is a shameless care which is all about STI testing and all that because he was in the Swinger community he gives out doxyPep and all that stuff but the episode that he did with me didn't just talk about the stuff that he offers. He gave all

stats. We talked all about SDIs and how to play it safe or how to be safe and everything. And he was, he was a really great resource on that. So if somebody wants to listen to that episode, the episode is 704. It's a STI. 704, STI prevention detection, ED medication and more. And we talk a lot about it there. I think everybody should be, can use a little bit more education on that always. So yeah, whether you're getting suck in a dick or getting your dick sucked, get your stuff. Get your some doxypep it's exist. Don't overuse the doxypep. What they are concerned that with the there is a concern out there and I don't trust Americans or humans to to heed this warning, but it should still be said is you also don't want to overuse it because what they are

worried about is if people decide, oh, I'm just going to have a bunch of unprotected sex and say doctors and stuff every each time. What they're work, what they don't want is for us to have a resistance to anti yeah. Antibiotic. resistant strings to pop up to combat that. So it's like, pick your spots, but it's good to have it on hand. Yeah. And I think it's very low dose because I feel like he's touched upon that because that is the biggest fear with antibiotics. That's why I never really like to take them. But I think the dose that you're taking when you're taking a doxypep because they did those studies is very low. It's not like you're taking the dosage you'd take if you had some sort of like bad. I'm not saying only use it

two times in your life. I'm just saying don't make it every weekend activity. Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm getting. That's the type of overuse I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, totally. All right. On to the next confession. Hi, Kathy. This is Vanessa.

That's going to be my fake name. I listened to you for a while, and I've noticed that there's no golden shower stories, so I want to tell you my story. So my husband and I have been together for 20 years, and I met him at 19 years old, and very attractive, very sexy guy. And we're dating for a few months and nothing out as usual. And he then one day we were drinking at a university and he confessed to me that he was really turned on by women with people on him. And it was really shocking and I was just like, well, I was not expecting that whatsoever.

And I was excited because I also had a secret. And since I was a kid, I would heal myself and on accident, of course. And it was to the point that it was so traumatic to, I hated being at people's houses. This went on to him when I was like five years old, up until I was a teenage, up until I was an adult, basically, up until I met him, basically. So, no, I didn't like have accidents all the time. But, you know, if I trained too much, I don't know, I just went to these deep, he eats sleep so um i was really reluctant to date because of it and so when he told me that all he wanted me to do was pee on him i was like yes yes i can definitely do that and it was just like it

opened up this door of just oh no no just freedom and now i don't have this dirty little secret so if i get drunk one day and pee on him i'm not going to feel guilty about it so So it really worked for both of us. And we have tried a lot of things. You know, we had, you know, I took on him. He wanted me to do, you know, roleplay where, you know, he liked it when I would hold it in gray pants and like I'm working out. And, you know, we'd do a lot of roleplay with that.

And for the longest time, I was shame of it because, you know, this wasn't my kink. This was his kink. And then, you know, over the years, I started, you know, kind of liking it myself. And I'm also bisexual. So I've always just, since we've been together, I've been really just wanting to be with other women and explore that part of me.

And so I'm almost always short. Up until, you will say, last year, we started playing with the idea of adding somebody to the mix. And finally, I had a encounter with one of my best friends. Her name is, let's say Samantha. And, I mean, I haven't crushed on a girl in a long time, and Samantha was checking all the boxes. Herbie, sexy, she could dance.

I mean, we were a dancing part of them. I met her at her bar, her and her boyfriend. We became friends quickly, all four of us, and we would just go on dates together. And then eventually he ended up going into the military, so I ended up becoming friends with her even more. and we were hanging out. And I don't know, it was one drunk night at the bar.

We just kind of started clicking. And we went to the bathroom, and that kind of was, like, given her the eyes, I guess, she said. And she kind of knew, like, oh, I think she's interested. And so, yeah, that night we ended up walking back to her apartment, holding hands, and we ended up driving each other. And it was fucking amazing. And honestly, that night definitely confirmed.

that was definitely bisexual. So the next few times, over, let's say, nine months, her dude was deployed and she was very long when we got closer, but she felt guilty because she felt like she was cheating. So we never really went past try-humping and filling each other until he came back from deployment. And something was just a little bit different, a little bit off. One night, her dude went to a little bit. work and we're girlfriends. We're best friends.

She was so awesome and so sexy. So anyway, one day, her dudes leaves and we ended up getting like these cheap cocktails and we ended up just like listening to music and then next thing you know, she's like, I need to take a shower. And I'm thinking, you need to take a shower. Girlfriend like, we need to take a shower right now. So she starts taking us all of her clothes and we're in the bathroom. and I'm clueless of what she's doing.

And then she bends over and kind of gives me this look. Like, she's like, hey, you want to touch me? And I was like, oh, this is what's happening. So, yeah, we ended up, mind up filling her up. And it was a weird game that we played, I guess, in her mind, if we weren't kissing, therefore we weren't cheating. I don't know. So that was kind of like our little play thing.

We basically got naked. She threw me on the bed, and she basically got on top of me and started scissoring me. And she fucked me without a dill. I feel like she fucked me without a dildo, basically. Like she used those hips because she's great at fucking salsa. So, yeah, she used those hips to a full advantage, gave me a whole fucking experience. To the point that I, after we were done, I ended up having to go to my husband and say, yeah, I think we should have a swing lifestyle.

We should have an open relationship. We should do something. I want to be with another woman. And he's like, whoa, where's this come from? And I told him the story. And he got so hard on what happened, which I was like, oh, my God, I thought he was going to be pissed because I've never cheated on before. And so this is like going on almost 20 years of being together. And we haven't confessed that, yeah, my best friend fucked me.

And he got so hard that we fucked for a very long time that night. So long story short, after that experience, we really thought about it, talked about it. talked about it, created a count on SLS, and we've been in the lifestyle the last, I want to say, at least since January. So, yeah, so I'm also at work. And I have people next to me. So I have this weird thing of them during my conversation. So I'm going to end this call right now.

But I wanted to do it. And I know you're going to be like, why do you do it at work? Because it's sexy. Kathy, it's sexy. okay it's sexy being naughty at work so that's my confession to be continued so listen this this is about three separate things she did say at the end oh we got into swinging but she didn't really tell us any experience but they've just been doing that this past year but really what we're going to discuss is the fact that she's into golden showers which she's right I think she said I didn't have I haven't

have that on my show I really haven't had that many people talk about it or never had a whole episode about it though I want to as well as her girl on girl experience with scissoring and I'm slightly obsessed with sizzering so we'll get into that. As far as golden showers, have you ever done a golden shower? Are you into that? What's it? Do you have any experience to talk about? Wait, so am I, so am I telling my, am I doing my golden shower?

Yeah, sure, why not? What do you think? Yeah. What do you think about hers? Well, hers is, I'm just glad that they found each other. I know, right? What if they, what if they each ended up with different people? How silly that would have been. And she just peed on someone drunk by accident and the guy, I got pissed. Well, I had a woman, I was at a, I was at a party where I had a chick who, you know,

told me she wanted to, she liked being peed on. Yeah. Like sexually. And I, I kind of responded in a blank face with, what? And then she, she goes on this long instructional. She goes, oh, it's really, really easy. See, what we're going to do is we're going to make you drink a lot of water while we talk. And then when you feel like you're finally ready to pee, we're going to go into the

bathroom. We'll go into the shower. And then I'm going to suck your dick a bit. And that's going to be great. And then you're going to come on my face. I'm going to love that. I'm going to be like, yes, give me the come. And then you can pee on me.

And then I'm going to be, yes, yes, give me the piss. Give me the piss. And then you can just turn the shower on and it will wash me right off. I looked at her and I was like, it wasn't the step by step was not where I was confused by your request. Okay. Where were you confused? I was like, she's just, I was still stuck on the, hey, I want you to pee on me.

Oh, okay. So that freaked, that freaked even you out. And I got to say, Bill, you're saying freak. I didn't say it freaked me out. It just definitely took me aback. It was at a play party, and I had to actually go to a guardian to ask, I've been going to this play party for 10 years. I go and I had to ask, hey, are we allowed to do water sports in the showers and the bathrooms?

Because there's three bathrooms available at this sex party. And the guardian looked at me and thought, huh, I've never been asked that before. Let me find out. And I was like, wow, I can't believe. I'm glad that I could find something that's stumbling. the guardians after all that we've seen down there. But as for the listeners call. No, no, no, no.

Excuse me, you're just about to confess about your situation. Did you go into the bathroom? Oh, yeah. I'm a- I'm a gentleman. Yes, I'm not a monster. I peed on her. Okay, so you know.

I peed and came on her. It was interesting. And then I just went back into the party. And then later I saw her fucking a dude I know. And I just thought, I wonder if he knows. He was probably going the bathroom afterwards to on her too. You've never had that request before? I've peed on two women who have asked me

too. She was one and what was the other one? The other was someone like, I think we linked up on Bumble. We hooked up and she admitted that she likes being peed on. And I think it was after we hooked up a couple of times, it was like, okay, I have a really I have a standing shower. I have a tub.

So it's actually really good for a display scene in terms of cleanup and just also the orientation of it. A bathtub. You always like kind curled up here like we could probably put her in the corner and put her in her fucking place yeah and anyone who's ever anyone who said you can't pee with an erection is very incorrect you can you can oh 100% I because she was blowing me and then we she was interspersed between sucking my dick me peeing on her sucking my dick me peeing on her and then when I was done peeing on her then we it was interesting we had to do this the cum had

become second. Wow. But have you ever been peed on? I have not been peed on yet. What would you be down for it? If somebody said, I really want to pee on you, I'm game. You try it, right. I'll try most things twice. Okay, so let me ask you this because I had a guy, I've never done any kind of water sports, but I'm like you. Like if someone said, can I pee on you? Like, not in my mouth or any shit like that are on my face. I'd be like, no, but like on my body. I mean, I try it. If we're going to do it, if we're going to do it, let's do it. I'm opening my mouth. I'm opening my mouth.

Oh, okay. I love that. If we're going to do it, you're going to do it. Okay, well, I wouldn't do it, do it. Okay, so then I would have to do it. I could be like, yeah, anywhere. But I'm not into anything like that would be considered degrading.

Now, I don't think degrading is wrong or anything, but I don't like someone to come in my face or to slap me or to put their dick in my mouth after they fucked me in the ass. Like, I'm not into degrading stuff. So don't pee on my face. No thanks. But if you want to pee on my body, let me tell you the hottest thing my friend told me. And I've said this before.

And this is, I would try this because when he told me, I was like, oh, that kind of sounds hot. And it's like a water sport move. So he was like banging this really horny chick who was down for every kind of thing. She was really dirty. And she would do this move where she sat on the toilet, okay? And she spread her lips and he would pee onto her clit. Now I was like, oh, I remember thinking that's kind of hot, right? You have this warm sense.

Like as a woman, right? You're getting this warm sensation. you're getting this hard thing going on your clit and you're doing like something naughty. And I was like that's like a hot water sport move. So I feel like I just gave some people like a really interesting idea of how to try it. I would try that. I think that that sounds kind of hot, don't you think? Yeah.

Like I said, if you ask for it, I'll do it. I think my inclination would be if the clip is presenting itself, then let's give the clip what it wants. Well, you could give the clip what it wants after? She's on the toilet. What are you going to give her on the toilet? Look, yeah, but yeah, if it's don't pee in my hair, don't pee in my mouth, pee on my mouth, I don't know, whatever. We're already peeing on somebody. Yeah, but I just have to say that's a hot, pee on my leg, pee on my face, but pee on my clit while I'm sitting on the toilet and it's going across and it's hitting it.

I'm sorry, that's a hot move. Do you have anything else to say about her thing? What was the other whole story? Oh, her scissoring thing. I'm always obsessed when I talk to lesbians. I'm always like, oh, do lesbians like really scissor? I think I scissors with one girl once. No, I know they do.

The funniest thing is when she's like, oh, she was so good. She, like, fucked me when she was sizzering because she knows how to salsa dance. I don't know why, like, I've heard, I would hear for a long time when I was younger, I would hear people say, oh, scissoring isn't real. And I'm like, but then, like, I've gone. I've watched women play with each other. I go, it looks pretty fucking real to me. Totally, it is.

And if you have a clit, it makes sense. You know what I mean? Because, like, when you're really horny and your clit is a gorge, like, you can rub it on anything and it feels good. Like I said, like, you could pee on it. and I'm going to, that's going to feel good. If I'm going to rub it on another clip, that's all wet, that's going to feel good, I think, for sure.

I just never, I always like to ask because, like, you see it, right, in porn and you hear about it, but a lot of people don't talk about it. Like, when I'm even talking to swingers and people who are interested in girls, no one's, they're all like, I went down on her. We 69, like, we fuck-licked. We did that, but no one's like, we scissured. I don't know why.

So I always like to ask about scissoring. This girl's sizzled. Yeah, yeah. I'm glad it was well received by the husband, and goes, hey, let's remember everybody. Just because it's another woman doesn't mean it's not cheating. It just, it happened to work out that retroactively it's not cheating because he thought it was hot. Yes, thank God.

But some guys would be into that for sure. You're right. I don't think it's a free pass for everybody. Yeah, and some people would be into it if, like, they had discussed it and agreed on it, right? You know, the big element there is like, oh, this wasn't agreed upon in a range to do that. But, hey, worked out. And now she can scissor any. one in her general metropolitan area.

Yeah, but anyway, let's go to the next confession. Hey, Kathy, it's Josef from episode 772. I was the last confession that you gave advice to, and I wanted to give you an update. There was actually a little bit of ups and downs, but progress has been super fun the entire time. Just recently, about a week ago, I bought her her first realistic dildo. If you remember, she's never had sex toys before. So all her relationships, it was just her and her, her, guy. So I put her onto it and I opened her up to vibrators, BDSM toys. She's not really into those,

but man, she loves her vibrators. I really only gave her the option. I texted her and I said, a big white bido or a big black bido? Which one do you want? And she was so nervous and she said white at first, more because I'm Hispanic, but I said, okay, cool, I'm ordering you the black one. And then she was super nervous to use it. It was pretty funny when she got it in person. And it's actually the same length as me. It's seven and a half inches, but man, this thing is super thick and it's super vain and it's so realistic. I love using it on her and it actually simulates a threesome. So I'll fuck her with that dildo while she's giving me head and she actually comes super hard and super fast with it. So I know that there is something going on and she likes it.

So I'm going to keep trying pushing that hot wife, stag vixen relationship. I know it's a baby step trying to get her into the stag, vixen and hot wife lifestyle. She isn't really open at any threesomes. I have kind of talked about it a little bit. At first she thought I was talking about doing two girls in me, but I'm actually very hot and I really want her to do two guys on her baby steps on that. I know whenever she's using that dildo, I'll fuck her with it, and I have her favorite clip wand, and I use that on her, and she comes fast, and she comes

very hard. And under, like, five minutes she's coming. So I know it's doing something because when we're having sex, she likes to do it from about five to 15 minutes before she comes. So, yep, that's my confession. You have a go on. Okay, listen, Billy, this guy has called him before. He wasn't even this far. Okay, last time. We know his end goal. So since you're the guy on here that's giving advice, I already gave him my advice. I'm curious. curious what your advice to this guy is to get his girl to go a little farther considering what he just did recently and talked about on this confession with the big black cock and the dildo and getting her to role play yeah yeah this is once again where i say if don't try to convince her it does

sound like you're taking baby steps and you're softly putting it out there at some point you have to accept that especially if this is a long-term relationship it has been made clear that you want to see her with another guy or want to have a threesome with her and another guy. So long as she knows that, you don't have to keep bringing it up. She knows. If she's been resistant to that, you got to let it go and then let her bring it up. She may never bring it up. But if she ever changes her mind, she knows she will bring it up.

She's never going to think, ooh, I kind of want to fuck another guy. I wonder if I should tell Felix. It's like, no, Felix, we're all aware. She's going to come tell Felix because she's like, yeah, I think I'm ready. Again, so you just don't want to be pushy. So it does sound like you've been finding alternate ways to indulge in a fantasy without actually doing it. That would be said, kind of role playing with these toys. I do think it's just important to make sure you're keeping this play within some she likes.

If you keep bringing up in dirty talk when you're fucking her with this toy, if you keep bringing up, I'm like, yes, you like think this is another guy's cost? When it's your fantasy, not hers, it's, you may want to check the scene, but she actually liked that, and not when there's a vibrator on her clip. Like, maybe check in and say, hey, what do you think about that dirty talk? Does that turn you off? Because I think a lot of do forget and don't even think about, hey, is it possible? She's indulging, but actually doesn't like this.

But yeah, just how do you keep getting her into the lifestyle? It's like you've made your wants known, and now it's, you leave it to her. dude and if it never happens then you gotta let that be no I think though what you said was good and I want to go down the path a little bit like when you said hey don't just keep bringing up what you want instead what I think is like leave the conversation open like what does she want to talk about while you got that second dick in there while you guys are role playing like what's her roleplay fantasies you know what I mean to play around like that let make her start to feel comfortable to tell you her fantasies and desires. I think women have much more dirtier thoughts than they cop to, right? Because

they have a fear just like anybody else that maybe their partner's going to be like, what the fuck. He's already got her to accept toys and she's down for it and she's roleplaying this stuff. But maybe give her the opportunity to see where she would take that roleplay and where she goes. Maybe she's on the same page. Maybe it's something else. Who knows? But I think like what you said, instead of just focusing on his fantasy, right, focus on hers. Yeah, that's another great point to make. And again, I think it's ask her that outside of the play. Ask her that when no one is turned on.

Maybe not as you're both chopping celery. Find it some sort of sweet, cuddly moment where you can say sincerely, hey, babe, like, clearly you know what my fantasies are. And we've been doing this like roleplay dirty talk sometimes during it. What do you like? What kind of dirty talk do you want? What scenario do you want me to pretend? And so yeah, but just bring that up outside the bedroom because then you might distract.

And sometimes you could throw somebody off when they're like, oh, shit, I got to come up with an answer now when they're trying to come. So, yeah, a good, hudley conversation. Yeah, I think that's super important because sometimes in some scenarios, that's the perfect time. And then sometimes what you just said, it's not, it could be the perfect time or it could be the total bad time. So you've got to do it both times. They're already fantasizing while they're doing it. But it's basically, it sounds like him leading it. But yeah, more talk about what she's interested in stuff

Way before he's ever going to get her to sort of go there. But I do think he said, oh, when I brought up threesome, she thought I wanted it with another girl. I think that's always the thing I hear from guys. It's always the girl is. And I hear from women too. Like I thought it was a trap when my guy came to me. A lot of times that's the first thing a girl thinks is like,

oh, you just want to fuck another girl. So you got to reassure her about that. That it's really just the two guys. So it's good that he's putting it out there. But, you know, hey, maybe she wants a threesome with a girl to be with a girl. And if, you know, who knows? Or maybe she'll want it later after, or maybe like after she gets it, she wants a threesome with another man.

Maybe after that she'll be like, okay, ooh, now I want to try another girl. We got the thing like people's wants and desires wax and wane. Totally. But that's also why I say, don't keep pushing your fantasy after a point. She knows. And if her feelings change, she will let you know because she already knows you want. Yeah, yeah, I agree. But listen, if it's a long-term relationship and a lot of time goes by and you haven't brought up,

you can again, just to remind, but never pressure, right? Yeah, you just don't want to be doing it every other week. And that would be like, that'd be too much. Yeah, it's a turnoff for sure. But anyway, let's go to the next confession. Hey, Kathy. I've been listening to your show for quite a time. Just trying to figure out how to handle my own, just crazy, kinky relationship.

So a little bit of a backstory about me and my wife, we've, I've been together for about three years. For the first year of us dating, my wife kind of floated the idea of being open and seeing other people. And at that time, I was just not about it. I'm super jealous, super, I guess, controlling. And I was not really interested in that. And so fast forward, now we're married. And I guess just from the fantasy and what she had.

pitched the idea to me about it and so I just kept thinking about it couldn't get it out of my head and so I developed my own kind of not I mean I guess it would be a cuck but not really it was more of like a tag team on my wife and so that's kind of what it turned into and so I opened it up to my wife told her that this is what I was really interested in and so months went by she told me she was okay with it when I told her, but we just first, it was just all fantasy talk, bedroom play, role play. We got a gildo that we'd role play with, but we never really had another person and we didn't want to hook up with random people. We wanted just to make sure it was a clean, safe, fun experience. So fast forward to now, we're coming up two months away from our anniversary

of being married for one year, and we just hooked up with my best friend this past weekend. We invited him over. We both fucked my wife. We both just took turns with her. I fucked her while she sucked his dick. She sucked his dick while he fingered her. We went all the way. It was a fucking amazing experience. He ate my wife's pussy, so she came.

She came on my dick. So it was a fucking amazing experience. I feel like I was able to just figure this all out with great help to your show. And I would love to talk about it more. Let's talk about our other experiences and talk more on death about the experience we had with my friend. So feel free to call me back. if you are interested. Thank you. Well, let's high-five this guy, right?

What are you going to say about this one? Start it off. Oh, like anytime I have a three-sum, I usually prefer it's actually with another dude just to help me out. It's so much worse. I know I've heard that from people. A lot of people say that, for sure. Division of labor. Guys, let's be smart about this. Yeah, and I've heard the girls say it's a lot of work for them because they got to please two guys.

Well, depending on how it's set up, right? because there's, that situation can either be, she is pleasing to the guys or those two guys are there to please her. I think you can find like either mindset kind of ends up taking over like the scene. Because like, look, when I have a threesome with two women, I feel like it's more like lesbian sex where I hold my girlfriend's damn. It's, it's, there's a lot of work there. Okay, but I'll do the work. I'll do it.

It's just, you know, I'm getting old and tired. But yeah, threesomes, they're fun. I don't know if there's something specific that stuck out to you, about this one? No, I think, listen, this is like every guy's fantasy. And I think, I don't know when we said it before in this episode, but we did talk about, or I did say, bring up that, like, role playing is the way to start to be able to get into this kind of a thing. And they roleplayed, they fantasized about it. A lot of times, that is the best way to start. Because I feel like if you put it out to a woman, like, I want you to fuck another guy, okay? That's a big ask for the average

woman that's never done anything like that. That's true. totally vanilla. And the way most women are wired, I know you're going to fight me on this, and be like, I know women, but I'm just talking about the majority of women. They don't see a guy across the room and they're like, oh, I want to fuck them. You know what I mean? It's like all the stars have to align. Okay, you could disagree all you want. I don't care. I'm just saying that I'm not going to be able to go out and I'm going to call up an old booty call guy that I know I'm turned on by, but like most women, if they like a guy and they're with a guy, they don't have 10 other guys that they know that they want to bang in a stable someplace. It's just not that way. They

don't want to go develop those feelings. They have to, a lot of times have a sort of connection with a guy to fuck them. And that's the biggest reason why women say no to this fantasy. But that doesn't mean that they can't go, like I said, find a guy that they fuck before, that they know that they're into. That's what I would do. Or that they're going to meet a guy at work, that they already have a relationship that they can maybe feel horny for. But the way to start it is like this guy, start role playing, start getting her comfortable, start getting her wet, thinking about it. And then eventually she might want the real thing. And that's what happened here.

And now he's like living his best life. I have heard the reverse version where women are kind of trying to do role play with their man to get him used to the idea of like maybe having a three someone another guy because more often than not I have heard or I think just in Lay Miller's research showed that like a three some with another woman is a little bit more frequent as fancy. But either way, you're right that role play is a great way to test it out because if they kind of balk at the role play real hard, you know that that things that's not happening.

I say the same thing when people want to open up with polyamory. Like, it sounded like the wife tried to do in the beginning of the relationship, which was, how about you just bring it up as an idea playfully? And if someone recoils, like you just stuck a catheter in his urethra, I don't know if there's going to be a lot of space to me. I don't think if you're going to really meet each other on that. But they kind of go, oh, interesting, never thought about that. I don't really know if that's my thing, but whatever.

Okay, well, at least that's lukewarm enough that you could have another conversation, right? Or like when I had a couple once reach out and they wanted to start opening the relationship, I recommend them this makeout party. You can only make out. You don't, you can't do other things, right? So I was like, go there.

If you can handle seeing her make out with another guy, then maybe there. But if you, if you see her make out another guy and you're like, it's all over your body negativity, then ooh, she definitely shouldn't. fuck another guy because if this relationship is solid enough, you can get over someone kissing somebody else in an agreed upon fashion. But it definitely can be difficult to like go from zero to anal and then be like, yeah, that's not for us. Yeah, but like I got to tell you, all I do, I have 800 and like 70 or 90,

I think episodes. And all I do is talk to couples across the line. And sorry, but go to a makeout party is probably the worst thing because kissing, no kissing is number one rule on most people's thing. I'm just going to tell you that what happens most of the time is that if they start out just doing all the rest of the stuff, like eventually kissing is the first thing that goes out the window and it's forgotten about very quickly. But I think to watch your partner first time just to see if you're jealous of making out with someone, which a lot of people think is like the most intimate thing is the dumbest thing to recommend. I would say go to a swingers party, watch other people getting it on maybe start fooling around in front of people do stuff like that where it's very safe i've

had couples that were did no swapping like they were just like what you said but make out party no sorry worst place to go that particular couple go i i do agree that going to go just watch and maybe play with each other yeah that's actually you that's actually you it's perfect that is you that is usually my my first recommendation go and have the explicit rule even if we hit it off with another couple or somebody else. We're not, yeah, yeah, because also that you're displaying to each other that you can set rules and follow them. If somebody tries to be like, oh, but like they seem interested in us, now somebody's showing that they want to bend the rules when it's convenient. So I do recommend that as a first step. I think the sex party was a little intimidating to this particular couple.

However, where I will push back on, as we love to do with each other, is in the Swinger lifestyle world, which it, when the Swinger lifestyle world like that, which I tend to, I'm not in that, space a lot because of arbitrary, weird rules like that. But when you're saying, if you bring a polyamory, which is not just simply open, right. But poly is about emotions. We're talking about sex here. Polyamory is about falling, being allowed to fall in love with people. So no way is kissing going to be a problem in polyamory. We're talking about everything else other than that. Kissing is typically the first rule that there is no kissing with most couples. That is probably the number one rule that most people have and also the number one rule to fly out the window

definitely not number one okay all right all right okay not in your world i don't know what world you live in i don't know what world you live in the real world the old school swinger world i don't live in the old school swinger will give me a break my last 10 couples were like 20 something year olds that have all open relationships and don't even like the word swingers okay and they still if they have open relationships they are kids and other people exactly it goes out the window this is what the people talk about before. That's all I'm saying. And sometimes it bothers them. That's typically what they say going in and the minute they start, it flies out the window. That's it. Right. So then was it even really, was it ever really a rule or was it just like a first like that? It's something that they think because kissing,

as we all know, is like thought of as a very intimate experience. It's the way you connect. It's a, that's what people think, though I think it's a very hot experience and that's what people understand. I can't talk about this anymore because you're a brick wall and you're not open-minded to what I'm saying. And it's, annoying. I can't, like, I know people like you. I don't like to debate with people like you because you're not flexible, so it's fine. So, end of story. But listen, Billy, I do like arguing with you because I love a good debate. I'm right. You're wrong. People will email me. Tell me on my Patreon, or now you could comment on Spotify. Tell me if you think Billy is right about kissing. But only tell me that if you've talked to a million people in the ethical non-monogamy world,

like I have. But anyway, Billy, thanks for giving me an entertaining show. And being a contrarian, I love to debate shit. It's kind of fun. I think we should, let's end it on this one. Yeah. All right. Thanks so much for doing all these confessions. You did two in a row because we had so many. You're doing two episodes in a row. So thanks, I'll definitely have you back on in the future. I love to have a guy's point of view on things, you know, especially one that argues with me. So I'll have you back on. But thanks for doing two in a row with me. It was super fun. Thanks, Billy. Bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession,

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