Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 893 - Nicole and Walter are Into MFF Threesomes, Going to Sex Clubs, Couple Swaps and More
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SDC. So today I have on Nicole and Walter. They are a super fun young couple who are very involved in
the lifestyle and their story is super interesting and their rules are very interesting. Wait until you
hear the rules that Nicole has. She makes up some interesting rules. She made us some interesting
rules in their relationship as well as in their lifestyle relationship. They tell their whole
story. They're both on the call talking at the same time. Both Nicole and Walter called in.
They talk about how they got into the lifestyle and when they decided to do it, who brought it up,
how the other person felt.
They started with threesomes with women.
They talk about that first experience and the first girl they met.
And then they started to go to sex clubs and they talk about all the sex clubs they've been to.
They are military.
They're both in the military.
So they've lived all over the world.
So they have been in swingers clubs all over the world.
And so they talk about different experiences at different sex clubs.
They've also been to Swinger's Resort.
They talk about that and their hookups there.
Walter talks about being by and when and how he brought that up to Nicole and how she felt.
He's hooked up with a guy in front of her.
Like I said, they have interesting rules when it comes to how they hook up together with the couples that they hook up with.
They do a lot of couple play.
And they talk about the rules and what goes down when they do it.
And they have a lot of experiences they talk about.
They also went to pegging recently they got into it.
They talk about that.
And they're very into hooking up with a trans woman.
Both of them.
They're both totally into it.
And that's what they're looking for.
Currently, they went to a trans club, a trans swingers club in London recently.
But they didn't really enjoy that experience.
And they talk about why.
But that's next on their bucket list.
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But I'm going to get right to it and be right back on with Nicole and Walter.
Hi, Nicole and Walter. Welcome to the strictly non-mus podcast. You guys are all the way in Italy, right? Talking to me. Yes, we are. Okay, so that's Nicole. We got Walter. Really, I didn't even have to tell Walter to not talk much because we want to hear from the girl. Okay. Walter's been in the background. Like, I know when, and he said before we start taping, I know when I listen, I want to hear from the girl. So he knows to sit back and listen. But you're going to be on the call, too. We got Walter and Nicole. Are you guys married, by the way?
We are. We've been married for six years, been together for eight years.
Oh, okay. And now you guys are, to me, it sounds like heavy in the lifestyle. And you have some
things that you told me about as far as like sex clubs in the States and stuff. So I'm assuming
you've been at it for a while because I know you're in Italy now, but you've been to a lot of
swingers clubs and sex clubs and vacation resorts, right? All over.
Yeah. Okay. So take me back to the beginning, you guys. Like when did,
you guys get together and when did you wind up opening up your relationship and why
okay hey Kathy this is Walter so we got together about eight years ago and I think when we got
together I always knew that I wanted to be in the lifestyle but never knew how to bring it up
how old were you guys when you met I'm 35 now she's 37 so eight years ago from
yeah what was that 20 late 20s mid late 20s
And so I always know I wanted to be in a lifestyle and experience threesomes and never have before that.
And so I don't know.
One day I got the nerve to ask her, she wanted to have a threesome.
With a man or a woman?
Woman, women at first, sorry.
Okay.
Yeah, this is before I, the rest of this came out.
We're probably a year into our relationship.
And I just come out and ask her, hey, have you ever thought about being with a woman before?
and her answer was a little skeptical at first.
I don't think she's ever been with a woman before then.
So, Nicole, how did you feel when he brought that up to you?
I was nervous.
So, like, with me and my ex-husband, it was very, like, what do I want to say, conservative.
So I feel like being with Walter, he's really brought out my freaky side.
And so I would say I was bike when he first brought up the,
topic of having a threesome and then going to a sex club.
All right.
So wait, you're jumping a little bit.
He says, let's like hook up with a chick.
And do you wind up because you're kind of open to it and you're curious?
Do you guys wind up having a threesome?
Yes, we did.
We ended up finding someone that we found on Tinder.
And, yeah, we kind of made it.
Like, she was, I wouldn't say she was our girlfriend, but she kind of was like our, our person
that we would go to when we wanted to have a threesome.
And what was that first threesome like?
Because you had never been with the woman before, Nicole?
No.
I was very nervous.
She walked me through it.
Well, they both walked me through it.
She was very gentle.
She ate me out.
But did you go down on her?
No.
I have not went down on a girl yet.
Through all the sex we've had with women so far,
she has yet to found a girl that she found worthy enough for going down on.
That's cool.
Maybe you're just not into it.
That's okay.
I think they call that a pillow princess.
But you're down with a girl going down on you, right?
Oh, hell yeah.
Yeah, there you go.
Okay, so how was that first experience for you guys?
Walter, what was it like for you seeing Nicole with the woman for the first time?
It was great.
I'm watching her getting in there pussy ate by the other girl and me getting the fuck two girls at the same time.
I couldn't ask for nothing better than that.
Yeah.
Of course, with the girl, we use protection.
So that was on the table, though, for you to actually, besides for Nicole to be with the girl,
you were allowed to be with the girl, too.
Yeah, that was, I think I brought it up.
And I was kind of an asshole back then and kind of, we both had been married before.
So going into this, I kind of figure to just throw it out there.
And if it doesn't work, then we can both find someone that it does.
work with. So basically I said I want to experience having two women. That's something I want moving forward.
I'm not going to get married again unless I have it in my life. And she agreed to it and we're here.
And now, Nicole, when you saw him have sex with the other women in front of you, were you turned on? Did you feel nothing?
Were you a little jealous? Like, how was that experience for you?
I was really turned on. I would have to say, watching a number.
other girl suck his dick, man.
It was hot.
It made my pussy wet.
I think I've told him this before.
Just watching him fuck other women, it really turns me on.
You have some of those women that are kind of like jealous, but not me at all.
Did you know that going in about yourself or were you surprised that that's how you felt?
I was surprised.
Like I said, it probably was something buried deep inside.
of me waiting to come out, waiting for the right person to have this experience with. And so
I was, I was shocked, but it felt good not to hold back of my true feelings of kind of what I like
to explore in my sexual life. Cool. So that experience was great, right? It sounds like it was from the
get-go. And then you continue to see her. Now, I know you guys wind up doing a whole lot more. So
where do you guys go from there?
So from there, we went to trapeze in Atlanta.
And we had a few experiences there.
We had sex with a few couples there.
In the same night?
Not in the same night.
Okay.
In different occasions, different occasions.
The first time we went there, we didn't play with anyone.
Mostly like a lot of couples we hear on here, you go there, scope out the scene.
just your newbies in the room.
So we went there, first night, we had sex with each other.
And then we went back and it's a place that you got to
probably get a hotel nearby and stay there overnight.
They serve amazing breakfast, by the way.
Really?
That's a funny.
It's a breakfast buffet that you have with a robe on
and then you go back to fucking if you want to.
They're open to four.
But, yeah, like when she says we have sex with couples,
we haven't did any full swaps yet.
So we've only had sex with, say, the wife of the couple.
Oh, okay.
So she hasn't had sex with the guy.
You have never seen her fuck a guy in front of you.
No.
Is that because you're not into it, Walter?
Oh, Walter is okay with it.
Oh, okay.
So Nicole is the one.
Yeah, I'm not really into having sex with another man.
Like, I really just watching Walter fuck both of us.
I have the girl play with me.
I play with the girl.
But as far as with another man, no.
Interesting.
Like, I really just watching Walter fuck both of us.
And then I have the girl play with me.
I play with the girl.
But as far as with another man, no.
Interesting.
And I can understand that.
When I think that's a lot of time,
that kind of scenario is a lot of,
it's harder to get a girl to sign on for it.
Because girls aren't wired like guys.
Like, guys, like, we're not going to be hot for,
10 guys at a 10. You know what I mean? Like you're lucky if you're hot for one out of 10, right? It's not
many times a girl finds a guy hot. So I think it's a harder kind of sell. But Walter, is that something
that you have brought up or that you did bring up eventually and she just shot it down?
Oh yeah. Most definitely. I've told her before if she ever or we were ever in a scenario to where
she said, hey, this guy is the guy I actually want to experience this with. I would be perfectly
okay, would I, I fuck other women with her, so why not give her a choice as well? Also,
if we're leading into that realm, I'm okay with a male body in the scene. I'm not.
Well, when you're at that club and you're swapping and soft swapping and doing all the stuff
that you're doing, if the guy is there, does he do anything to Nicole? Or like, Nicole, do you
engage with the guy at all or you have done nothing with another guy? The most would be like,
him like touching my breast or my ass.
But as far as like anything, like me stuck in his dick, anything like that, no.
Were him even going down on you?
Can he go down on you?
No, I don't want it.
Interesting.
Okay, but let's stay back.
Okay.
We've had a couple of ass.
They ask, obviously, can I eat her pussy?
I'm like, well, you got to ask her.
Basically, I'm here to protect her if she says no.
but if she says yes, then it's okay.
Okay, but she's never said yes yet.
But so let's go back to Atlanta.
So you go to Trapeze and you went there a bunch of times, right?
And you did wind up hooking up a couple's?
A bunch of couples?
Yes. Well, yes.
Uh-huh.
And what were those experiences like?
So Trapeze has a large open room in the back where only couples,
only couples are allowed in that back area.
And so there's a lot of beds, a lot of plush areas.
is in there and you're next to another couple and you're fucking in Atlanta is mostly a black city.
So there's older white couples there sometimes, but it's a lot of young black people in that scene.
So I believe the first time she actually let me touch another woman at the club was it was another black couple next to us.
And while me and the other guy were on top of our respect to women were just reaching over touch.
each other's breast.
The women are touching each other.
They're kissing each other.
And yeah, I don't know how to explain
other than it's a great time.
And you guys both, do you both also enjoy
like having sex in front of other people?
Like what people could watch and out in public
like at these clubs?
Oh, yeah.
I think we're some voyeurs.
Yeah, we put on a very good show.
No, that's exhibitionist.
You could be voyeurs too.
Boyers are the ones that like to watch
and then exhibitionists are like
you like people to watch you.
Yeah.
So I guess we're exhibitioners.
There's been plenty of times where I don't know
at the end they're just like, oh my God,
you guys did a great job.
And we're just like just knowing you guys were watching
help us egged us on to perform even better.
Yeah, that's great.
I think you could go either way.
Like you got a bunch of people watching you have sex.
You could either get super in your head
and become nervous and weirded out by it
Or the exhibitionist gets really turned on and then you could lose yourself in that scenario.
Yeah, at first it was like that.
I think first it was really hard to get hard in front of people like that.
And then you look around and everybody's naked.
Everybody's fucking.
There's different body styles and everything.
You're a little self-conscious.
And then I think he's just lose that.
And he's just like, fuck it.
We're here.
So put my dick in your mouth, I guess.
Yeah.
But how long did it take you to feel more?
comfortable at the clubs do you feel once you started going?
I would say like maybe our third or fourth time going to trapeze.
We got just just comfortable and just seeing how everyone is just so free and no judgment.
Everyone is there for one reason to fuck each other or fuck other people.
So it's not even worrying about anybody else around really.
Yeah, that's cool.
And now do you have a type when it comes to?
women, Nicole, or are you pretty open?
Oh, most definitely she has a type.
I love long.
I love women with long hair.
Okay.
Race doesn't matter, but long hair, man.
Like, I love being able to pull it.
And then I love when me and her are second Walter's dick.
And he's pulling her hair.
He's pulling my hair.
It's, yeah, long hair.
I'm a sucker for long hair.
That's interesting.
And do you find that you guys have the same taste in women?
Walter, are you down with all the girls she's into?
I'm more open with women, obviously.
I'm a man.
Exactly.
There's not a lot of women I'm going to turn down unless they're just horrid looking.
So she's stoned it to me a couple times.
Oh, my God, you're just a man.
You just fuck her just because you got to dig.
Like, yeah, well, that's that's truth in there.
But usually we go after the women that she wants, obviously.
I want her to be involved with it.
So we have to pick someone that she's attracted to.
Now, I know that you guys, like, have hooked up with you've, or I don't know if you've had threesomes with trans women or is that something that you're interested in?
You've also been to, like, resorts.
I don't know if you just want to go chronologically, like, what came next?
So chronologically, what came next was a argument we had one night back in Texas.
Okay.
Yeah, so we would go to sex clubs in Texas as well once we were military.
So we were living in Texas.
We're both in the service.
And yeah, we went out one night and we had a bad night.
We both got drunk and just an argument came out.
About what?
I don't remember the exact argument at all.
When alcohol is involved.
Yeah, yeah.
It could be about anything.
It was too much to drink that night.
Probably on my part.
It's usually on my part when it comes to that.
But somehow it came out.
I think I was in my mind, I was just like, I'm fed up with this.
I'm just going to let her know.
I said, babe, I'm pretty sure I'm bisexual.
Oh, interesting.
How did that come out in the middle of an argument?
Yeah, I don't know.
I think I've been wanting to tell her.
So at that point, you're so mad, you're like, fuck it.
I'm just going to throw it out there.
Like, fuck it if she leaves me, whatever.
We're already beefing.
So then we, I don't, the trans conversation didn't come to play until this year, actually.
Yeah, but let's stick to the buy conversation.
So you tell her I'm fucking.
bye. Okay. And then what how? What do you how do you feel, Nicole? Um, I was I was taken aback because
obviously I've never had been with another man that has opened up about being by. And at the
end of the day, regardless, whether you're by, lesbian, whatever, living in your own truth is what's
important. So I would say he opened up about it. Uh, we, uh,
talked about it.
And I would, this year, we had actually our first experience with another couple.
The husband was by and then the wife, she allowed the husband to go fuck other men.
And then he would come back and tell her about it.
They would fuck.
And so him and Walter met on on Grindr.
Well, what Nicole didn't know before is that I had.
had had sexual experiences with other men in between my two marriages.
Oh, okay. Did you cop to that then or you copped to that recently?
Yeah. So once I told her that I was by, this was a couple years ago, that's when I told her I have had those experiences.
And how far had you gone with guys during those experiences? Like all the way?
Yeah. Or are you bottom top? What are you?
Burst. Yeah, getting sucked.
Yeah, getting fucked. Yeah, getting fucked.
fucking them obviously safe in every experience and it wasn't a lot maybe three or four I was single at the time so I was just feeling myself and trying to find out where I belong yeah but how great was that to finally put that on the table with your girl that you were with it felt good it really did and then the fact that she accepted it and her initial response was not like ill get away from me because in the swingers community obviously it is frowned upon
Also in the black community, no matter how many times you see it, a lot of black women don't accept it for their men.
You know, they'll have a gay friend, but not a gay partner.
Or not a gay partner, but a bi partner.
So it was.
And then, but yeah, the fact that she accepted it just made me falling lower even more.
But you hadn't had your first experience with another guy until recently, like a couple of years after you told her, right?
Yeah, it's probably about.
Three or four years after I told her.
So we got here to Italy.
And I asked her, hey, I've spoken to you about this before.
And we've had our experiences with women.
We've allowed that.
So are we ever going to touch bases on the experiences with men or trans?
And so I kind of got confused in my hastiness, I guess.
And she said, yeah, you can probably go on the app and find somebody.
I didn't know she wanted to do it together.
Okay.
So I took that as Make a Grindr profile.
Go on there and see if I can find someone to join us.
Because that's what you wanted.
Honestly, we weren't speaking the same language, right?
Yeah.
So she kind of got mad that I did it without her.
But then we had the conversation of, well, I didn't know you wanted to do it together.
The profile, not their experience.
Yeah, of course.
So I met the guy, and he told me he was married.
He's also military, him and his wife.
And he told us his situation, which Nicole already explained.
And we kind of, we went out to dinner.
The four of you or just you and the guy?
The four of us.
The four of us.
Kind of kind of like an icebreaker, gets to know each other and see if we vibe before
diving in and into the experience.
So we went out to dinner, me and the wife.
We talked.
We got along.
same with Walter and the husband.
And then I want to say, was it like a week or two later?
We got an Airbnb together.
They actually got the Airbnb and went over there.
So me and the husband were hoping that Nicole and the wife would also be sexually attractive.
Nicole wasn't sexually attracted to the other wife.
So she was still willing to go through with the experience.
When it came down to it, it came down to him sucking me, also my wife as well, not me playing with his wife.
And then he bought him for me in that scenario why the two wives watched.
Oh, okay.
How was that for you, Nicole?
Did you wind up getting turned on?
What was that at first experiencing your guy with another guy like for you?
It did turn me on watching another guy suck his dick.
it got me wet.
And then I think what was just really annoying was just the wife.
Why?
What did she do?
Why she would not shut the fuck up?
What was she saying?
What was she doing?
Play by play?
She was talking and she was laughing and it was all.
He was kind of embarrassing to husband.
Yeah, she was.
I'm pretty sure he got off.
What was she doing play by play?
She was talking and she was laughing and it was all.
He was kind of embarrassing to husband.
Yeah, she was.
I'm pretty sure he got off.
Was she uncomfortable?
Like, why was she ruining the moment like that?
That's weird.
Well, she even told us in the experience that she talks too much.
She's like, I know I talk a lot during sex.
I'm like, yeah, you really do.
Oh, my God.
I'm looking my dick so.
And she was like, like Walter was saying, like, she was embarrassing the husband by saying he doesn't get her off.
She has to use a, yeah, she has to use a toy to finish.
And I was like, oh, my God.
What do you mean?
She was saying that to you guys while he's like banging you?
In front of the husband.
Yes.
She said it at dinner.
Yes.
The first time we heard that looked at dinner.
you weren't turned on by her
she's not hot at all
she's like a fucking downer
I think he got off on being degraded by her
as well because while I was fucking him
she would be in his ear like yeah you like that big black dick
and you they're an Asian couple
but yeah you like that big black dick and you
you love that hurting you like that
and he got off on that too so
I think that was their thing
yeah you're right you're reminding me
I talked to enough of these people to know
There's plenty of guys out there that would be into their wife laughing at them while they're banging somebody.
It is a thing sometimes.
So, okay, so that was like a recent experience, though.
That was back in February, I believe.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was our first and only by experience or by male experience so far.
After that, Nicole finally came out to me and told me that she's watched trans porn before.
I don't remember how that came out.
But we had a conversation one day, and I think I told, I showed her my, my Twitter feed.
Mm-hmm.
And how I have trans porn on my Twitter feed.
She said, well, little do you know I'm actually into that and I've been watching
Transporn.
Isn't that amazing how a little bit of honesty and a relationship leads to so much more honesty,
right?
Would you have ever cop to that with anybody else?
Probably not.
No, not at all.
Not at all.
So, yeah, that was right before we went to London.
We took a trip to London to see a concert on our favorite rap stars in the concert.
And while we're in London, we're looking up sex clubs because usually we go to a set or try and find a sex club in every country we go to.
Yeah.
We went to two in Amsterdam, two in Milan, and then the one in London.
And the one in London was a trans sex club.
However, it wasn't what we...
It was not what I thought it was going to be.
Why not?
Paint the picture.
It was dingy.
Very dingy, rundown establishment.
It was cold and...
Yeah, it was...
It felt like a...
It felt like being in a stripper locker room.
There was like no...
Everyone was just, like, just sitting down and just drinking.
There was no action.
And there were more so, I would say they were cross-stressers than trans.
And I would say, even though I've had experiences with men,
I'm more attracted to an actual trans woman than a man's body.
Right.
You want the fake boobs and everything, right?
Or do you want the dick, too, though?
Or no?
Oh, yeah, the full package.
More so the full package.
But I'm not attracted to like men.
pecks or his muscles or his facial structure.
You like the feminine?
Yeah, I'm more into the feminine scene.
And that scene, you can tell that they were, I don't, I want to be rude and say pretending
or anything, but it was more so like cross-dressing older men than it was like women.
Yeah.
And that's a totally different thing.
And some, listen, a lot of guys are into that too, but that's a totally separate thing.
Like to me, it's like apples and oranges, right?
You were looking for trans women.
So have you had that experience with a trans woman yet?
No, we haven't.
And being out here, it's really hard, honestly.
What are the swingers clubs like over there?
I know you've been to a lot.
You also have been to just there was a swingers resort.
We could talk about that too.
We can talk about the girl that I was in love with.
Let's talk about that.
In Texas, we went to a swingers club.
And while we were sitting at a.
table. The outside of Swingers Club is usually just a table area club, dance for a type,
and then you go to the back room. Me and Nicole are sitting at a table. We have our drinks.
And this beautiful Hispanic woman comes over and she has a long hair that Nicole loves.
She sits down next to us. She asks if she can sit with us. We're like, sure, go ahead.
You're lovely. And she gets to talking with Nicole.
And then Walter is talking with the husband.
And then we're like, let's go to the back room.
And we went to the back room in one of the open areas on the bed.
We started playing with each other.
Me and the girl started sucking Walter's dick.
And her husband, he was, what do we call it?
He didn't care to play with us.
He rather just watched his wife play.
and then he would finish, and then me and Walter, we would finish together.
So he never really played with us.
He more just was more.
He did ask.
Did he?
He did ask.
So once Nicole turned them down, I think that kind of changed things.
But he did allow us to continue playing.
And we met them, I think, two more times after that in our hotel.
Because they stayed in San Antonio.
We were about four hours from San Antonio.
So every time we would go back to San Antonio, we would meet up with them in a hotel, which is only like twice.
Yeah, but Nicole, you did say you were in love with her.
But you didn't go down on her?
I did.
So we, so I had ended up deploying and we communicated a lot.
Like we would text each other.
We would send each other nudes.
I felt like she was my girlfriend.
Uh-huh.
And so when I got back,
We actually met up again and we had sex.
And then we were supposed to meet again like a month later.
And she flaked on us.
And she never responded to our text message, to my text message.
And I think me and Walter came to the conclusion.
I think her husband was jealous.
Because you guys were getting too close.
Yes.
Yes.
Like we would text every day
And when you said you guys had sex
When you came back
Was that you and her together
Just you guys alone?
No, it was me, her,
Walter, and then like her husband
Would sit on the couch and watch us.
Oh, okay.
But he could tell that you guys were getting super close.
Yes.
But to answer your question, no, she did not go down on
I know, I'm surprised.
You're sending nudies.
I told Walter like if
we would have continued, she would have been the girl that I would have went down on.
Yeah, and I think her husband wanted to be more involved than what he was.
But he was respecting Nicole.
Yeah, and the only thing is, like, she said you can't be involved with me,
but he would sit back and I could tell and I would always wave him over.
Hey, man, come over and at least be with your wife while she's over here with us.
But I don't know.
I think he wanted the whole experience.
and that's why it kind of went to the wayside.
So like he was kind of like an all or nothing guy.
Yeah, and after the third time, he probably got fed up.
And I, hey, I can't fault you for that.
We're all in this for what we want in our relationships.
But that does go to show that Nicole would, like you said,
you were ready to maybe go down on her, right?
Because you liked her and felt comfortable with her.
Yeah, I felt very, very comfortable with her.
But she would go down on you?
yeah, she went down on me.
We both did.
We ate her together.
They were stuck my dick together.
I would fuck my wife while the other girls eating her out.
Yeah, we did everything except for her.
And also, I don't go down or I'm not allowed to go down on other women as well.
Oh, I didn't know that.
That's a rule.
So, yeah, that's one of our rules, obviously safety first.
But, yeah, no going down.
because I feel like that is something between us.
And he's really good, really fucking good at it.
And you don't like to share him?
You don't want to turn.
Oh, my God, that's hilarious.
I think that's what it is.
I probably did too good of a job on her,
and now she doesn't want me to do it on someone else.
I'm not saying I'm the best either.
Obviously, every woman is different.
So there's always that scenario.
I could be the worst on someone else.
Of course, everyone's made differently.
But for Nicole, you're the...
What other rules do you guys have?
So that was established early on Nicole.
Like, you knew for sure.
Hey, listen, you could fuck another girl,
but you're not going down on her?
Yes.
Look, that's our only rule.
Yeah, that's it.
I like that rule.
I've never heard it before.
I've heard of Don't Kiss,
which is a dumb one that always goes out the window.
Hey, my thoughts are too.
I said, I thought kissing was kind of like a dumb rule
because I'm like,
I think it's like,
just a part of having sex is kissing.
What's funny?
In our first three months of us being together, we didn't fuck.
We just went down on each other.
She had a 90-day rule in effect, but it wasn't for head.
It was just for intercourse.
Isn't that so funny how people just make up these weird rules for themselves?
I can eat you out in the first 90 days.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You could be totally naked.
You could be totally naked with each other.
going to fucking town
but don't put it in
exactly can't fuck you
for the first 90 days
but I can eat your pussy all night long
Yeah yeah
If we didn't last
You couldn't be like
Oh I fucked her
I'd be like no you
You ate my pussy
Oh my God
It's so funny
And you waited for the full 90 days
And then you let him fuck you
Yeah
I think it was
Yeah
About three months
Yeah
Oh my God
That's the weirdest
thing I've ever heard Nicole
but I love
You know what I love
I love your commitment to it
Like you not only made up that rule
You never gave into it
You follow through and you let them fuck you at
90 days like you're a woman of your word
Which I like
I think I would have just gotten too horny one time
And just went like just put it in
Do you know what I mean?
It was hard but yes
I had to stick to my word
Yeah that's part of I was
Like I said I was single
I was meeting girls on Tinder
Before her left and right
And so once she laid that rule
down. It made me respect her a little bit more because I was used to getting it on like the second date.
What a challenge for you too, no?
Yeah, it was a challenge, Tom, but she outlasted.
I know how guys roll. You were probably like, I ain't leaving until I get to bang this bitch, like now.
Yeah, I'm not leaving until I break this cookie and half.
I think that's kind of a smart rule. So then we, I think after that we went to a.
The resort. The resort. Temptations. Yeah.
Tell me about that experience.
Paint, paint that whole picture.
So I can't remember how we came across.
I think we just Googled resorts, like lifestyle resorts.
So Temptations, like, it's, man, it is a party.
When you think about sex clubs, it's over the charts.
So it paints a topless resort.
Yeah.
Lifestyle resort.
Everyone that goes there knows what you're getting into.
And so we found the place.
We went to the resort.
Everyone's out there, half naked.
The women are out there.
Their breasts are out everywhere.
And it's a lovely picture when you go there.
There's a pool, large pool bars inside the pool area that you swim up to.
One night or the second night we were there,
we did a little competition.
It was a striptease competition that Nicole got involved into.
She had to get up there and dance on the pole and get naked,
which everyone loved that.
The second night, I believe,
is when we met a couple there
that she made out with a hot tub.
Yes, I ended up making out with this girl.
And we were going to go back upstairs,
but the husband, he was like,
yeah, if we're not swapping, then no.
So I was like, no, never mind.
But the third night, we ended up meeting this one girl.
she was with her friends and language barrier.
So it was very hard to communicate,
but she knew that,
hey,
I want to fuck you
and I want you to suck my husband's dick.
Well,
the first night,
the first night we met it was a night before.
And like I said,
I had too much a drink.
There's one night so I had too much a drink.
And all I remember is having the other woman's titty in my mouth.
I don't remember how it got there.
And that's thing I really,
I remember Nicole slapping me out of nowhere because she wasn't involved in the picture.
I don't know if I walked away from her or left her at the table by herself.
But then we saw the girl the next night.
And after we had resolved that situation from the night before, I explained to her, if anything was going to happen, it was going to happen with you.
I don't know how I ended up with the girl by myself at the bar.
But now that we've resolved this, can we experience the woman that we met?
last night. Okay. And so we got to sit with her. We had to use Google Translate because all she spoke
with Spanish and all we speak is English. And we finally got to the point where her friends were
actually egging her on to go back with us. She had two female friends with her that just said,
go with them. They want you. You want them. Just go back to the room. We'll see you in the morning.
And she came back with us. Me and her started eating the cold out. And the girl as then she tried to
pushed my head down to her pussy to get so.
I got to imagine.
And I looked at Nicole.
I looked at Nicole and Nicole is just like, you better not.
Oh, my God.
So I didn't get a taste of that that night.
But, yeah, we end up fucking her.
I fucked her.
She ate Nicole.
I think everybody had a good experience.
Probably about 2 or 3 a.m.
We walked her back to her hotel room and went on our way after that.
What are the, what are the demographics,
are the people at these clubs or are there a lot of hot couples walking around in singles?
It's a mixture of both, all different types of body types.
There's no, this is a judgment-free zone.
And I think like being, like us for women, I think that's what makes us feel so much
comfortable being in these environments because nobody is, oh, she doesn't have a six-pack or
her boobs aren't perky.
So going to places like that, like you don't have to worry.
about being self-conscious at all.
Yeah, that's amazing.
Usually a lot of older people.
I think the older, I don't want to say the older generation, but usually 40 and up.
Yeah.
Like I said, we're in our 30s right now.
They're more free.
And we're just now starting to see younger people come in.
But it is usually retired individuals, retired couples that are in these sex clubs that
are looking for couples to play with.
And now because you guys are the young couple walking
around are you typically like the hot commodity?
Yeah. A lot of the clubs we've been to have been majority white clubs.
I'm a six foot. I'm six feet, probably 210 pounds of military muscle. And they see that and
their wives see that. And yeah, we've had plenty of couples come up and they'll ask her,
hey, can my wife suck your husband's dick? Sure. Yeah, we actually have one.
So when we went to this one sex club in Texas, me and Walter were fucking.
And there was an area where it was sort of private.
If you didn't want anyone looking like you can pull the curtain forward, but obviously we would always have the curtain.
We wouldn't have the curtain clothes.
And so me and Walter were fucking.
And this couple, the husband, comes up to Walter.
And he was like, hey, can my wife suck your job.
Dick and can you fuck my wife?
And I was like, whoa.
And so, like, Walter, he was like, is it cool?
I was like, hell yeah.
And so the wife is sent up here, I'm getting fucked by my husband.
And the husband is sitting there jacking off.
And I'm sitting there kissing the girl.
And she's over here.
I don't think she could take it.
She was like, oh, my God, you're so big.
Oh, my God.
You take this every day.
I'm over here comforting her.
And it was, it was a really, I'm going to say unique situation, but it was, yeah, probably like, we always run into that sometimes.
Yeah, I want people to think, I mean, the hungest monster out here.
I'm a good eight inches probably.
Are you thick, too?
Am I?
Yeah.
I would say it's thick enough.
I think it's thick enough.
And then there's one other part of our little.
scenario or our relationship that we have and that is pegging that we recently gotten into.
Oh, I love that. Talk about that. Like, how did that come up? I asked her one day.
Yeah. I'm just at the point now that or if I wanted, I'm just going to ask and we'll see what we
get out of that. So one day I just asked her, has she thought about it or or seen pegging porn.
I don't think you knew what that was at first. No, I didn't. And then I went on Porn Hub and
and looked at a few of the videos and saw.
And so Walter, he went ahead and he bought a dildo
and the little harness that it goes on.
And so I actually surprised him one night with it.
I was, you know, like, hey, tonight, I got something planned.
And he went and took a shower.
Yeah, so we have this massage table in our bedroom.
And so he went and took a shower and stuff.
and I'm preparing, putting it on.
And, yeah, he...
I walk in and she blindfolds me before I can see it
and puts me on the massage table.
That's hot.
And while I'm laying on my stomach,
well, I'm laying on my stomach
and she massaging me.
Yeah.
And I started feeling she climbs on top of my butt and my back.
And I feel it.
Obviously, I can...
There's a plash a dick laying on my ass.
But she's not...
She's not ever been in a position before.
She's never fucked your eye in the ass or been fucked in the ass.
And she doesn't know that you have to prepare for that first.
Right.
So at that point in time, I felt I reached back and I grabbed him like,
yo, you should have told me this probably about 30 minutes ago so I could prep for this.
But it's not something.
You just spring or someone unless you want, but you don't want that scene that unravel up in here.
And so did you wind up prepping and then go through with it?
No, it didn't happen that night. It happened probably another month later.
She came and said, I really want to do it. I just been afraid to bring it up because I don't want to hurt you or anything.
I'm like, well, if a guy couldn't hurt me, I don't think you're going to be able to.
Yeah.
So I prepped. And, yes, she did it. She finally came around to doing it.
How was it for you, Nicole? Because I've heard women say different things.
Some women never thought they'd be into it, but they put it on, they strapped it on.
they did it and they felt like really powerful and turned on by the experience and they had no idea.
Yeah, it's interesting.
I felt, I felt empowered.
So just going off the motion of kind of like when you're getting fucked from behind, I'm like, okay, this is what you do.
And it really turned me on being able to fuck him with a dick.
Because I don't know about other women.
One wish I had would have is I want to know what it feels like to have a dick.
I want to know what it feels like to fuck somebody with an actual dick and get my dick suck.
So I really enjoyed it.
And Walter said, like, I was really nervous about hurting him.
I'm not into anal at all.
I've done it a few times as not my forte.
So I want to say that word.
Yes, I've tried it a few times.
And so I know what it feels like.
And so I want to make sure he's comfortable.
and as we were doing it, I kept asking like, hey, is everything good?
And he just reassured me.
And I just, I went wild.
And it was, how was it for you, Walter?
Did you do a good job?
I think I enjoyed it.
I really did enjoy it.
I think she held back.
She said she went wild, but.
I did go wild.
Yeah, she held back.
And that was part because, like she said, to,
Not harm me in any way.
Have you guys done it a bunch of times?
No, we haven't.
With our, with our schedules,
I feel like we haven't made the time to do that.
We have sex every other day,
but doing that, we haven't.
It's a little bit more of a production.
Now, because you liked fucking him in the ass,
would you ever strap it on with a woman?
That's a part of a girl-on-girl-action kind of experience that happens.
Have you ever done that with a woman
or want to do it with a woman?
I wouldn't mind doing it with the women
with a woman, but like I was
like Walter was telling you, like how
I was interested
in trans women.
I can't think of what that one.
The one porn star,
what her name is.
The porn, the trans.
Yeah. So there's this one trans porn star
that I really, really like.
She's gorgeous.
And so watching her
videos and
her fucking other women and stuff like that.
I wouldn't mind getting fucked by trans and I wouldn't mind fucking another girl with a
dildo.
So I would definitely be open to me.
You won't do a guy, but you'll do a trans woman.
Yes, I will.
Okay, that's something interesting that's on the table.
Now, what about you, Walter?
Would you be into the hooking up with the trans woman?
Yeah, that's what you guys have been looking for, correct?
Oh, yeah.
I would much prefer a trans woman than a man any day.
That's why we went to the club in London.
But again, those were more cross-dressers than trans women.
I think on the apps, don't you think you'll find people on apps?
Yeah, it's very slim.
Oh, because you're in Italy, because of where you're located.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The town we're in, it's mostly just gay men on the app that we're in.
Mm-hmm.
Or men that are also, and another thing is men are hiding it from their spouses that
They were on there, and that's not what we're about.
Before we met that one couple we were with,
I probably ran across two other guys that were on there
that were hiding it from their spouse.
I'm like, well, my wife is all about it.
We're not going to sit here and allow you to cheat on your wife with us.
That's not what we're going to be about.
But my definition is, yes.
So how has opening up your relationship
and everything that you guys do together
changed your relationship?
Do you feel?
compared to like your friends who have are in vanilla relationships or compared to your first
marriages that you both had.
It's definitely a lot better.
I think in my first marriage, I was hiding a lot of the things that I wanted to try just
because of fear.
And now ever since I came out to her about experiences that I had or wanted to have,
it's just made life a lot easier.
We can talk about each and everything that we want to experience.
And I have to worry about the judgment that may come.
is either a yes or no at that point.
But at least I know that you won't look at me as if I'm disgusting or something,
if I bring up something.
Yeah, which I think is everyone's biggest fear.
And how about for you, Nicole?
Yeah, I think it's definitely open, made our relationship even better with my ex-husband,
like I said, is very, very conservative.
And being with Walter, he has pulled out things that probably were just buried in
of me of, man, I didn't know that I really liked this or into this.
And so I think we are on the same page of exploring.
If we bring up like, hey, I want to try this.
Sure, give it a try.
And if we don't like it or if one person is not into it, there's no harm, no foul.
But at least we were open and we experienced that.
And it also takes time.
I was listening to one of your episodes about Mr. and Mrs.
eggy i can't remember their full name you just had them on like last week or so oh they're that that
that weird name they had the peckled freckled peckers or whatever the fuck their name was yeah
yeah i was listening to that and how you know explain how it takes time you know baby stuff and
i totally agree with that you can't just throw everything out there all at once at what you want
no but what's so great and you guys are here to prove it too is that once you start bringing up some
things like your biggest fear probably was like to tell her that you were into guys so much so that you
just brought it up when you were pissed right because you're like whatever but after you did that and you
didn't get a ew or a bad reaction it's like everything then it's become so much more open and how great
is it to be able to be completely honest about everything and and have your partner accept it
I think that that's true intimacy it brings people closer I think really revealing everything about
because I think that there's so many couples out there that are hiding a lot of shit from each other.
Yeah, I think so.
I don't think a lot of women would cop to their husband that they're into watching trans porn,
but there's probably a lot of women like you, Nicole, that do, right?
But you were able to tell your guy and express that to him because you guys are so open with each other.
Yeah, I agree.
Now, do any of your friends know that you guys live this crazy life?
So a few of my girlfriends do.
I cannot remember how we got on the topic.
I can't remember.
But one of my girlfriends,
she's actually been to trapeze.
And then three of the other girlfriends,
one, they were like, oh, no,
I could never share my husband.
Like, how do you do it?
And I'm just like, I just, you know, I love it.
I'd rather do this experience with him, especially since I'm open to it.
I'd rather do it with him versus hiding it and then going behind my back and cheating.
Like, who wants to, who wants to deal with that when you can just be honest?
And then if it's not for you, then leave each other.
But listen, that's why a lot of times I think people are more like you guys in that.
They go into their second marriages, very different than they go into their first, right?
Walter knew straight up.
like he's just going to be honest from the get-go
because he didn't want to have that same vanilla
relationship and
so he put it out there which I think
was smart because he found out you were
on the same page so why and but
if you were in it would have been a perfect
way to weed out somebody that he wasn't
compatible with but you guys
were
yeah
like you were down with it
and also listen to your podcast
helped us
before the buy
threesome or the buying
couple that we experienced.
I don't know if we would have made it that far
until I actually got her hooked
under your podcast and she
started listening and seeing that
this is this out there.
And it doesn't mean anything
except for individuals looking for one.
That's my mission because I think
the bye guy and the guy on guy action
thing is still like
bottom of the totem pole for some reason.
It blows my mind.
And I'm here to say that tons of guys are doing it
as much as girls are doing it and as much as people are doing anything else yet these guys can't
sort of put it out there because there's still this weird stigma attached and it's so stupid and because
of the stigma it doesn't deter guys from doing it it just makes them do it undercover you know what I mean
and that's like Nicole said you'd rather do it in front of me than cheat there's plenty of guys
that are blowing guys behind their wise backs because it's just not something that people really want
to cop to but it's happening and it's like this it's ridiculous that it's
so that it still has a stigma, even in the swinger community.
It's like crazy if you think about it, right?
That's like a place where you think people would be the most open.
And that still is something that isn't that accepted.
So it really goes to show the stigma still exists on that.
And so that's why I'm always like stick things in your ass.
Like these are guys that are by.
They're alpha men.
Look at them.
I show pictures just to prove to people.
It's not like what you think.
And so I think that that's great that it was.
it helped you be more open because I think that there's so many people like you out there.
Yeah.
It's more common than people think.
And at least your husband's not doing it behind your back, Nicole, because there's plenty of them,
of plenty of them are.
And look, it wound up turning you on like you liked seeing it.
And a lot of women, I've heard that from a lot of women too that have been in my show.
I love to ask the woman, did you ever, were you ever into guy and guy to action?
A lot of time the answer is no.
And a lot of times the answer to, well, how did you feel?
when you saw your guy was like, I was like actually turned on and they're surprised by it,
but they didn't even realize that it would be a turn on.
And that was your experience, right?
Nicole, like you were turned on by it.
Yeah, I was very turned on.
I didn't think I was going to be.
Yeah, exactly.
But yeah, I was.
With the couple that we met, it was supposed to be more so like a head swap and him bottoming for me.
But he didn't have the biggest penis.
So she hasn't seen me suck another guy off yet.
She hadn't seen me bottom for another guy or anything.
And hopefully that comes with the trans woman part of this.
Right.
And we get to experience that with a trans woman together.
Yeah.
Well, listen, when do you leave Italy and come back to the States anytime soon?
So we'll be here until the beginning of 2026.
But where we go next, we have no idea.
Well, you always could go on vacation too and meet that person.
So listen, since you listen to my show, I always love to get.
some picks, anonymous picks if you want for my Patreon. For my Patreon, I want R-rated pictures. I don't post
anything else. We got a bunch of those. Okay, good. And then, but for Discord, what's super fun, and I'll
give you guys free access to my Discord. There is a guest channel there. And when your episode
airs, you could go in and post anything you want there. And you could post it yourself. And then other
people like talk to you and stuff. And I will give you guys, I'll send you a link and give you free access. And
Thank you so much for calling in and sharing your story.
I love it.
It's super interesting.
I love the younger people calling in telling their stories because it just does show that there's more younger people out there doing this, which I think is great.
Thank you.
Thank you.
We love speaking to you.
It was fun.
Thanks, you guys.
Bye.
Bye.
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But these are true stories.
17 of them.
They're really short chapters, easy read.
You could read, you know, one or two and then skip around.
You could read the whole book.
It's available in eback format, paperback format.
and finally the audio book is available coming out August 25th, but you could pre-order it now.
And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my
Discord. My Discord does not disappoint, okay? There's no way you get into my Discord any other way
than getting the link from me, okay? I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there.
Everybody shares content with each other, and that's what you get to do there. You could post your own
pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you can win a lot of money.
It's a super fun place to be. It's a total strictly anonymous community and you will love it.
I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord. It's private, like I said.
All you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook,
the ebook, or the paperback. Send it to me at strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com.
that's Strictly Anonymous Podcasts at gmail.com and I will send you the link to Discord.
So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in.
This is the Strictly Anonymous Podcast.
Good news.
Strictly Anonymous Podcast is looking for people to call into the show.
So if you lead an interesting, naughty secret life that you want to talk about while
remaining anonymous or not anonymous, if you're out and proud, that's cool too.
send me an email, strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. That's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. Or go to my website,
strictly anonymous podcast.com and click on, be on the show. If you have a short confession that you want to get
off your back, call my confessions hotline. 347, 4203579. That's 347, 4203579. You could call that number 247.
I change all the voices on the confessions too. So you remain.
Anonymous, the number, the website, and the email address will all be in the description.
If you want to follow the show, follow me at Strict Anonymous on either Instagram or Twitter.
That's at Strict Anonymous.
And if you want to sign up for my Patreon, you're not only supporting my show, but you're
going to get all of these episodes early and ad free.
You're going to get anonymous picks of all of my guests.
Most of the girls send me in anonymous hot picks of themselves.
And some of the guys are sending me in anonymous picks.
as well. You also get access to my private Discord where people are getting super naughty.
If you sign up for my Discord, you could post whatever you want and talk to my other listeners.
To sign up for my Patreon, just go to patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast.
That's Patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast.
The links and everything else I spoke about are all in the description.
Thanks so much for listening.
