Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 894 - Sam and his Wife’s are Professional Swingers

Episode Date: August 13, 2024

Sam and his are professional swingers and they called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including how a mff threesome came up and who they decided to bring in as the unicorn, how and why they’re broken up because of it, and how he got her back, their first mff threesome they had and what went down, their first swinger party they attended and how and why it led to them throwing their own swingers parties, how and why they started looking for couples to hook up with, the first couple they hooked up with and what went down with them, the first mfm threesome with a dominant guy and what went down with him, how he realized he loved seeing his wife with another guy and what it was that he loved so much about it, how his wife loves watching him with other women, how they’re run their swingers parties and how and why they because so popular, how his children found out the parties and how they all reacted, how he vets people who get invited their parties and what exactly goes down, their hook ups at the swinger club they frequent and what has gone down there, why he has to take a viagra during mff threesomes but not mfm threesomes, where his swingers parties are advertised and how you can find them plus a whole lot more. His wife Ronnie's' episode will air on Monday and her episode does not disappoint. It's a totally different view of their relationship. So stay tuned! To find them and their parties online go to https://www.kiwiswingers.co.nz/ their screen name is Funfourall and their parties are called Live Entertainment Lifestyle Parties To see anonymous pics of SAM, HIS WIFE & PICS OF THEIR SWINGER PARTY VENUE and see pics of previous female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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all of that stuff in your area is listed on SDC. And they even like, if there's like running a gangbang or a party, like people sign up for it so you could see who's going. Okay. And the good news is is I have a free trial for you. Just use my code 37712 or what's easier is just go to the description and click on the link and you're going to get a free trial for SDC. So today I have on Sam, Sam's great, him and his girl. They're Kiwis from New Zealand. His girl's going to be on the show too. He decides to call in first.

Sam and his girl are very involved in the lifestyle. They throw big parties over in New Zealand. He talks all about that, how they eventually got into that. His party sounds, their party sound super killer, and he does talk about that towards the end. So if you live in New Zealand or traveling there, I think you're going to want to sign up for one of his party. and he does tell you how, but really what he calls and to talk about is like their journey into the lifestyle.

And it wasn't like an easy one. They had a real rough patch in the beginning, and he talks about it. It was like a threesome gone wrong story. It's very interesting. It's very real life. But they wound up getting through it, and he talks about that. And then when they got back together, they entered the lifestyle. And very early on, they had a bad experience at a party and decided to throw their own.

And they've been doing that ever since. For the past five years, they're very important. involved. They throw killer parties. They've met a lot of people to play with. They started doing threesomes with women, then started with threesomes with guys, and they hook up with couples. And he talks about all that, that whole process too, and how that worked between them. So you get hot stories, you hear about their parties, you hear about their little bumps in the road in the beginning. And it's a super interesting episode. I have hot picks of them over on my Patreon. You're going to want to put some pictures to them after you hear this episode. And then eventually,

I'm going to have his girl on, okay? She's going to air after him. So stay tuned because his girl, Ronnie, who he talks all about in this episode, is going to be on next. So anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Sam. Hey, Sam. How are you doing all the way over there where you're from?

You're from a very faraway place. I don't know if you want me to mention the country. Yeah, and I'm from a little country called New Zealand on the opposite sort of the world of where you are. Yeah, I love it. So listen, Corey, your wife's going to call in too, right? Most likely I'll be airing your episode first and then we'll air hers, but you guys are a married couple. You were very involved in the lifestyle community now. You throw swinger parties and all

that kind of good stuff, but like it wasn't always so perfect. It did kind of start out with some issues, which I love because that's like real life stuff. And I always like to show the good, the bad, the ugly. So I don't know if you want to start from like the beginning. I think that's when it kind of started off rocky right from the beginning, correct? Yeah, so basically my wife and I've been together for just over nine years now. And when we got together, she sort of, I've always led a very sheltered lifestyle, shall we put it. Ron is my fourth wife. Fourth?

How old? You sound so young. Oh, my gosh. How old are you? Yeah, I'm 49, but I first got married when I was only like 21. Oh, my God. That's what I figured. Okay, cool.

Four wives. This is your fourth wife. Yeah, so third time wasn't the charm, so I had to go for a fourth one. Oh, my God. Okay. You don't sound that sheltered, by the way. Well, it kind of was, because when we got together, I don't ever actually probably slept with about 11 people throughout my life.

So when we got together, we actually met online. The first time I've ever tried the old online dating. And same with her. And then we just sort of clicked. And then, yeah, got together. and she's, oh, one thing he did another, and she's telling me about her, her life and stuff. And swinging came up. My wife had actually dabbled in the swinging lifestyle before I met her.

And it really intrigued me and kind of excited me. And then so we started talking about maybe having a threesome because that's every guy's dream to be able to have a threesome. Yeah, with a girl, right? Yeah. And so we didn't know anything about the Swinger lifestyle then, well, as in the website that we ended up getting on to. So anyway, Ronnie started working for this with this lady, and they started being quite friendly,

and we actually met up. We went out to a night, and she thought she could be a good fit for us to have a threesome with. And then, unfortunately, we started spending more and more time together. we hadn't done anything sexually, but we were spending weekends with her and with our kids and her kids. Was she single? Yeah, she was, she was single, and she had two younger children, and so our kids played together quite well.

Okay, cool. We just started hanging out far together, and my wife was getting away, started getting a wee bit concerned about our friendship. And so she thought she'd better pull the plug. on that idea because she was getting concerned. Why? The friendship with you with the girl? What do you mean? Because your wife was a professional.

She had done stuff like this before, right? But this woman, I don't know what her story was, but your wife felt like she was getting too close to you. Was that what the problem was? Yeah, correct. She felt our friendship was, yeah, getting too close. Yeah, for sure, huh? Okay.

So she then thought that that was going to be a bad idea. So she tried to pull the plug on it. And that sort of annoyed me a little. It felt like she'd dangled this carrot and then was taking it away. But anyway, long story short, I ended up just leaving my wife for a few of time and went and had an experience with this other lady myself. And it was just, it was just fucking dumb, Kathy, to be honest.

Yeah, it sounds very dumb. I've got in this situation before, and I just confused, like, lust with feelings and all that sort of shit. But can we talk a little bit about it real quick? Just because I think it's an interesting thing, because you guys obviously work through it, which I think is great. But let's just talk about this little road bump,

because it was kind of made. You left for 18 months you said in the email. So you were Matt. Did you leave her and did you guys break up because you could not get past the fact that you weren't going to have any girl-on-girl action? Was that really the demise and the reason why you guys separated at that time? Well, it was a lot of things. We were going through a bit of a tough time of sales, even though we were sort of early in a relationship. We hadn't been long married.

But we were going through some financial difficulties. and we were just struggling. They weren't having any fun. And then this other lady comes along and we start having fun. We start doing things. And it was just a collaboration of things. Right. So that was the straw that broke the camel back.

Because if you're lacking fun and now you're about to have fucking fun and she takes it away, I can see why you'd be pissed. So you guys leave, where do you meet this other woman during that breakup time, this woman that you wind up with? Well, that was her. I ended up with this the woman that we were supposed to have a threesome with

Oh, okay, you didn't tell me that It sounded like you wet a different woman You wound up During your breakup going And hooking up with that girl Oh my God Yeah, I kind of like This is the stuff your wife smelled

This is the reason And that girl fucked you And that's the reason why your girl Was smart enough to cut it off Because she knew something was wrong there Absolutely, Kathy. Her initiative was kicking up for store. Oh my God.

So you guys, so you wind up finding her and hooking up with her. Yeah, well, we've been, like I say, we've been hanging out quite a bit. And we've been around to her place. She'd been around to ours. And so I ended up, yeah, like leaving my wife for this other chick. And, but at the same time, I, I, I never stopped loving my wife and it was crazy. I was going back to my wife through that period.

It was about a three-month period or so, or maybe slightly longer, that I was hooking up with this other bird and I'd obviously moved out. I moved out of our home that we had together with my kids and with his other bird. Anyway, once I fucking actually came to my senses and woke up and thought, you're just an idiot what are you doing then so i went back to my wife and but she wouldn't take me back for which is fair enough let me ask you this did she know that you were hooking up with this woman did you tell her you were honest about it yeah absolutely okay cool and and even with the new even with that other bird that i was with i said look i i was i was crying on her freaking shoulder

one night because I said I stole my wife to pieces. It was actually killing me because I hated hurting her the way that I did. It just killed me to see how much I was hurting her. I said, I still locked my wife to pieces. It was actually killing me because I hated hurting her the way that I did. It just killed me to see what I,

how much I was hurting her. Yeah, I'll tell you, the only saving grace in this story and probably the only reason why she took you back is because you did tell her about it. And I think that that was like one of the best things you did. Yeah, I think probably they, I probably was a bit deceitful. And as I've told my wife as well, and she found out as well that I was messaging her behind her back. Oh, you were?

Secretly. Yeah. But, yeah, she knows all about that as well. So obviously we've talked about all that sort of stuff. But yeah, it was just their fucking shit show, really. So let me ask you a quick question, though. Like, how do you guys wind? back together.

So basically I tell that other, the other lady that I was with that, I can't do this. I want, I want to go back to my wife. So I ended up with her, went back to my wife and she wouldn't take me back, but there and then. But I just, I just keep dating her and working on her relationship, trying to, trying to gain her trust back again for, and it took about 18 months of hard slog. and trying to repair the relationship again and building back her trust. And then she finally forgave me and thought we could move forward and we moved back. And then she moved back in with me.

Yeah, listen, you were in it. You committed to getting her back. It took 18 months, but you did not give up. And I think that that's very realistic. I think the reason why a lot of people don't wind up getting someone back is because they don't put in that time. But that's how much fucking time it's going to take to build back a woman's trust but you did it you stuck you stuck with it the end of the day kathy on you she was she was the one for me yeah and i just fucked up yeah and you had to prove that to her and it took 18

months which i love because like i said i think that that is very realistic if you told me it took three weeks i'd be like what's not the movies took 18 months but you got her back okay so now you're back with your wife and then what goes down yeah so then as as my start in bulldoer that trust back with her again. We started talking about the whole swinging thing again. And she was open to exploring it some more. So we thought, well, how about this time we hire a professional to have our first experience and see how it goes. So we ended up doing that and having a threesome with a professional.

And that went quite well. It was quite fun. How was that for you? Was that the first time you saw two women together? Yeah, it was cool. It wasn't as exciting as I thought it would be. It's like that whole. Interesting. It's like that whole. Sometimes the, the old imagination and reality don't match up. Yeah, yeah. But it was fun. And it was those things you can say yes.

Check it off the box. Yeah, so then we, anyway, we come across a swing of side over here and he's on called Kiwi swingers and set up a profile on there and then started dabbling a bit more we ended up how we ended up hosting parties was because we went to a first party that i'd ever been to ronnie had been to some before and it was yeah it was like it was basically just like an orgy on the floor in this lounge and it was just way too much like i was the first time i've ever been to something like then and yeah it was like very overwhelming my wife ended up getting

accosted by these guys one of them was trying to fuck her without a condom and it just was a shit show and it really just about put us off the whole loss all together to be fair and then anyway so we're driving home from there

because my wife broke a rule as well because we were supposed to our only rule was we were supposed to talk about something before we were going to enter into it and that didn't happen she ended up in this position without talking with me about it first

what was the position yeah well as I say she got ended up down on the floor with these three women which was fine I was all good with that but we didn't talk about it first but I thought that well this is cool

yep but anyway that was when she was down there the husbands of these three wives then thought they would just join in without even asking her And as I say, one of them was, tried fucking her without a condom on. So on the way home, we had a big discussion about it. And I said, you know what?

We should host parties. Because we had a venue for it, right? Like I had this woolshed on our property that I'd sort of converted. It's a bit of a man cave. I said, we could do this properly. Stuff, I said, that's not how a party should roll. There was all this pressure and expectation for people to do things.

and it shouldn't be that way. So, yeah, we started hosting our own parties and we have rules and regulations around at the start of the night. Plus, we do live music because my wife and I are entertainers. So we've got that added element to our parties where we provide live music for people to dance and it's more of a party, party atmosphere. Yeah, love it.

But why don't you start telling me, like, how do your parties run? What are those rules? Yeah, so basically, we advertise them on the Kiwi Swinger site and we theme them so each each party we have a theme a dress theme just to add a bit of fun and then I do a lot of scouting on the site through people's profiles just trying to get new people to come along I spent a lot of time speaking with people especially new people that think they're going to be too much for them being new to the lifestyle and explaining to them the way actually it's probably the best way to be

to meet people because there's no expectations or anything like that whereas if you're meeting people one-on-one contacting people online yourself and then you're meeting up at a pub or whatever or for a drink there's there's that expectation that it's a hard situation to get out of and you feel obligated type of because they've made the effort to meet up with you and stuff because you've got so many other people there so if someone says no sorry no not for us you can just move on to the next one and it's a lot easier. Yeah, totally. It's not that.

Yeah. So, yeah, so I do a lot of that trying to grow the community and we're also good friends with the owners of a swinger club up into need and club Ruske. And we're working together so we don't hold parties at the same time because they saw the whole parties every second weekend. And yeah, they come down to our parties and yeah, it's just, we're just working together trying to grow the community. Yeah, I love that.

like when you decide to throw your own parties, right? Like at this point, had you seen your girl with another guy, is she, are you guys down for full swaps and all that kind of stuff? Like, how do you guys roll in the lifestyle yourself besides the parties? Well,

initially, yeah, well, initially we, we, we only wanted to have three sons with other women because I wasn't sure about my wife being with another man. And she didn't really want to be with another man at that,

at that stage. She was just wanting to explore her by-side, which she hadn't really done before. So that's how, but we were finding it hard to find these unicorns, they're called unicorns for a reason. Then we thought, well,

how about we just tried tabling with couples? But then the problem we had with that was trying to find a couple that we're both attracted to because my wife's very fussy. She won't just fuck anyone. She's not one of these woman. that just want some caught.

So it's got to be someone that she connects with on all levels. Personality is big for both of us, really. It's not just about looks. We like to make connections with people. So anyway, I can tell you about a funny story. One of the first couples we ever got with, they came down to our place. And Ronnie wasn't really into him,

but she was quite interested in the lady. And so we ended up on the couch. And so Ronnie was eating her out. and she was sucking me off. Anyway, that was getting quite a so I ended up blowing a load all over this other woman's tits while Ronnie was eating her out. And then Ronnie was trying to avoid this guy because she didn't really want to fuck him. So she said to him, oh, I want to see, I want to watch you fuck your wife now.

Anyway, so he starts messing around with his wife and he's on top of her. and he must have, I don't think he was aware that I'd blow my load all over a tits or something. And he starts kissing and licking her, and then he gets a mouthful of my cum. And he just flipped out, like lost his shit. He was spitting on the floor and he'd raced outside. Started crying and Ronnie went outside and said,

look, it's okay. This sort of shit happens. And he's, oh, I'm not gay or anything. Oh, my God. That's hilarious. But I'm like, and even his missus was laughing, we were trying not to laugh. But he just couldn't see the funny sort of. He needed to get over himself.

I said, look, dude, shit happens. But yeah. Yeah, that's ridiculous. That was pretty awkward. We never ended up playing with him again for obvious reasons. So I started thinking about it, you know, like imagining it with another man and it kind of turned me on. So I was like, should we give us to go?

I'm not sure how I'm going to feel about it. But, hey, if you don't try it, you don't know, do you. Yeah. She ended up, we found this guy, and he came around to our place. And we were just hanging out, having a few drinks. Then we went through to the room. This dude used to be a professional boxer, so he was fit, good-looking guy. He was cut.

That's one of the things, one of Ronnie's criteria is she likes cut. I mean, she's not into what she calls snuffaloficus. Okay. He's going to hanging over the end of their knob. This does nothing for her. Mm-hmm. Okay. So, yeah.

And, yeah, he was a bit of a domen, a bit of a dome as well, which I'm not as such. I'm more of a more sensual sort of, of a more sensual lover, I guess you could say. And so that was a new experience for her as well and being sort of. of domineering and they were sort of throwing each other around the bedroom. So she started, she was blowing him and I was just watching for stars and then he went

down on her and then while she was blowing me and then he started, he was fucking her while she was blowing me. But he, I don't think he ended up coming but and that's another thing about Ronnie is I know this is probably not getting along the same, the lines of

the hot stories and that, but she's when I met Ryan She'd never had, she'd only ever orgasm with one other man in her life. Uh-huh. And that, that was only about two or three times. She could get us, she could always get herself to come, but she, she'd never come with anyone else. So when we got together, I was like, well, that's, I'm going to make you come.

And she goes, well, good luck with that. And it took me about, it took me about three, four months to work her out, how to get her off. But, yeah, I managed it. Well, now we all know why she took you back after 18 months. It was because you were the only guy that would make her come. So, but she's never gone off on any of these other guys. What about she gets off with women, though, when they go down on her and stuff, right? No, no, no.

Unfortunately, a lot of these women that think they're bisexual, they're not actually that good at eating pussy, Kathy. Oh, my. I don't know what it is. But Ronnie is very good at eating pussy. fucking we've tag team many a woman we get that's our goal we high five each other when we get them off but no she's never she's never had a woman get her off either wow interesting i can't wait to talk to her i have questions about that so okay so that guy though did she get into him because this is like the first time she's with a guy she doesn't come from him but does she get is she hot for this scenario because you're watching and you're involved is she into it and then you tell me how you felt about it yeah absolutely and it was a huge turn on for me i i sort of i grew up in an environment where you know a bit of a bogan where someone looked at your misses you'd you'd hit them up or you'd

want to knock them over to then being in the position where i'm watching my boy fucking other man and it's turning turning turning me on or nothing else it was it was mind-blown for me actually to be at the point now where I actually find it more exciting watching my wife with someone else than me being with someone else. Isn't that interesting? It's a very common thing. Hey, everyone. It was mind-blown for me, actually, to be at the point now where I actually find it

more exciting watching my wife with someone else than me being with someone else. Yeah, that compulsion. Yeah. But we have it for each other. She loves me watching me fuck other women as well, as much as I love watching her fuck other men or woman. It's just her pleasure. Yeah, because I'm going to talk to her.

I figured I'd leave those questions for when I do speak with her, but I was wondering whether she was into seeing you with other women. I figured because she's into women herself, that she probably would be. But you, it was a surprise for you because it's not like you're into guys, right? Do you do anything with guys? No, no. Okay. I'm very comfortable around other guys now because I've seen a lot of hard penises now, Kathy,

which would have freaked me out in the past, but you just get used to it, especially throwing the parties and that. It's just another naked dude walking around with a hard on sort of thing. Exactly. I love that. So you, that first time right away, you realize you're fucking into it. You like watching her fuck other guys. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Now it annoys me a little

If I'm completely honest that she's so fussy Because I wanted to be fucking more people But because she's so very, very picky and fussy What she has every right to be She's not fucking as many people as I wanted to be So Yeah, I hate to tell you this But that's how most girls are

There is this rare breed of women And I've had them on my show That just like cock, dick Like whatever you want to call it They're down and they like variety They're kind of wired that way but most women, it's hard to find a guy that they're attracted to. It's just the way that it is.

That's how most women are. It's not just your wife for sure. Trust me. Yeah. Yeah, and I guess we're lucky. Like, without blowing your own trumpets, we, everyone tells us that we're actually a very attractive couple. It's not a one-sided thing.

That's where we were struggling with finding other couples that we both were into because she was not and he was not type thing. But there's lots of couples out there that will play separately as well. So even if you can't connect with a foursome, you might play with just the wife and the husband watches or whatever. And we've had that scenario a few times as well. And we've even got a good friend, managed to have this female that she's married.

He, her husband sends her down here to fuck me and Ronnie. yeah and he's all good with it so there's we have lots of scenarios like that as well where the couples play separately but we don't we prefer to watch each other Ronnie has allowed me to fuck another woman when she wasn't there

but it didn't really do much for her she's not one of those ones that likes to hear about it she'd rather see it and watch it are you the same way for her being with guys like how do you feel about that would you love for her to play solo with a guy and come home and tell you about it or do you also like to be there? I would be okay with it because we've talked about this.

I'd be okay with it if she videoed it. Yeah. And because I would want to watch it rather than just hear about it. But I, unfortunate thing about that is my wife's not very good with taking videos. And I know she'd fuck it up and I'd be extremely disappointed because she didn't get it. Yeah, you're pissed out.

Yeah, so, but yeah, absolutely I would be, yeah, okay with that as long as she videoed it, but definitely we both preferred to be there. That's what we've worked out. It's our thing. We love watching each other. And so that's where it's out. That's where most of the excitement is for us. Yeah, let me ask you this.

Let's get back to your parties. How many years have you been rolling like this, first of all? About five years now. So five years. So you must have a. ton of experiences. And you started though with the parties throwing your own parties like very early on, correct?

Yes, yes. But we don't play at our parties like Kathy. That's our rule. We just like to be good hosts to make sure everyone else is having a good night and we're all about the safety and consent, making sure that everyone feels comfortable and not pressured to do anything.

Mm-hmm. And besides that, I'm up singing half the night as well, putting on live music. for people, dancing and stuff as well. But it's definitely a great opportunity for us to meet new people and make connections and stuff that we can then organise to hook up the following weekend or some other time or whatever. The beauty of this lifestyle, Cathy, is we've made so many good friends

to the point now where some of our best friends are actually in the lifestyle. And there is also an unfortunate thing that's come out of this as well, though, as we got ousted because everyone was talking through. throughout the country. We've got people coming down from Auckland the other end of the country fly down here to come to our parties because where it's got out, how good they are. But yeah, anyway, that's because everyone was talking about our parties. My children found out about it.

Now, I've got three older daughters. And they've all left home, married and have children and stuff. Yeah. And so my middle daughter, she found out, rung me up and started abusing the shit and he said to call me to get up. And everything. Oh, my gosh. Yeah.

And then tried to say that Ronnie was only doing it just to appease me. And then Ronnie ended up saying, well, actually, it was me that got us into the lifestyle. I'm not getting father. Oh, my. Did she eventually come around to under, did your daughter eventually come around to understanding and accepting the lifestyle? No. No? No, Kathy.

That's been about, she's probably known for a couple of years now. And, yeah, she just learned to speak to me. Wow. So it, like, ended your relationship with one of your daughters. What about your other two daughters? Are they okay with it? Because obviously, probably the word got out. And they found out, too.

Just one daughter is mad. Yeah. They're all the same. Yeah, they're all sort of trying to tell them. Oh, they're all bad. They're all pissed. Yep. Oh, so did you lose contact with all of them?

Yep. Wow. But I'm a lot of fighter, Kathy. I've got three boys as well. Okay. Well, you did have four, you did have four, three other marriages, so I get it. How did everybody find out? Just because everyone started talking about it.

Our parties, the work got out. And it got back to your kids. Yeah. Crazy. How'd your sons react? They were about concerned about that people were fucking in their beards, but I said to the, I said to my boys, Well, it's not your beds because we've actually got a house.

It's 50 metres away from our venue, which is a willshed that I've fully converted into a massive party palace with three separate bedrooms and bathrooms. But they choose to sleep over here because they think it's cooler than the house. So I said, well, you can't say that, boys, because these aren't actually your beds. You choose to sleep over here. And I said, and we sanitise, everything gets sanitised and cleaned, obviously. We have waterproof sheets on the beds. And we have six commercial loads of washing after every party.

We have throws that people can put on the beds in between playing. So they're not lying in someone else's spooge. So everything is wiped out and clean, sanitized and washed before my boys ever come around. Right. This is a professional thing. You didn't just start throwing a party in your house. This is like a whole to do. And that's so much so that we're going.

thought out and they found out about it because it became pretty big. Do you have rules about who can show up? Like how are people vetted for your parties? I just do. I read their profiles. Because on this website you have vouchers where people could vouch for you. Yeah. When we first started hosting the past,

we weren't actually allowing single males. We only allow single females and couples. but then we worked out. There was a lot of couples that wanted single-cooked guys. So we started allowing single guys along. But, yeah, definitely that either be vetted by us or if they were vetted by Club Ruske and Dunedin. Or I could vet them over the phone

or we'd meet them, just asking them questions, making sure that they understand what goes on at the parties and the whole deal around the rules of consent and no touching without asking. And we have a speech at the start of the night before the night kicks off, just explaining all the rules to everyone. I think that's smart.

Yeah. Yeah, around consent. And we haven't had too many issues. We've had a couple of incidents where we haven't allowed people back because they haven't abided by those rules. They've made people feel uncomfortable, pressurizing them and touching without asking and things.

And we just, we just, We just blacklist them and they don't allow back. So we don't want people feeling uncomfortable at our parties. It's all about consent. And we also don't allow anyone that's cheating. So there's plenty of guys and probably and some females as well that are doing this, have set up a profile behind their partner's backs. And yeah, we don't allow anyone like that at our parties either

because we don't, we don't condone it. don't want to be getting involved in breaking up people's marriages because we're ditching. We don't want nothing to do with that. I want some fucking angry husband rocking up here with a shotgun. No, that's smart. I love that. I think those kinds of things are important. Do you have age range or is it sort of a free-for-all as far as who could come to your

party? It's a bit of a free-for-all. Probably up to about 55. We try and we're trying to keep a good mix of people. So there's someone for everyone. Yeah. And then includes like good looking people and then you're, dare I say, you're not so good looking people.

But the beauty is in the eye of the beholder, obviously. But we just try and keep a good mix of ages and as in looks and that as well. So there's someone for everyone type things. We don't want people feeling left out or out of place. I love that, of course. There's a lot of work goes into it as far as that goes with me, getting the people along here to the parties, and that's what makes them,

that's what's made it so successful, I guess, was me actually putting the time and getting the people along here, because people, people will just sit on the fence, and there's some people just need a bit of encouragement to try and come along to these things, because some people still have that perception of it,

still throw the keys in the bowl, and everyone fucks everyone type thing is, And it's absolutely nothing like that at all. Well, that was the problem with that first one that you went to. It was kind of like that vibe. And it was very off-putting to you as newbies, correct? Yeah, 100%. Yeah.

So, listen, when I talk to people who have been in the lifestyle for a long time, and they would, like that party, that first party that you went to, it's like everything that was going down there was a big no-no in the lifestyle. The way you guys are rolling now, it's like you're professional. And I'm sure people, that's why, like you said, your word got out and it became popular. because there is a there's something to throwing a good party right putting the people together I love that you guys are really running it while you're there talking to people making sure everyone's having a good time right you're also the entertainment correct yeah yeah absolutely but

can we still get our flirt on kathy yeah people that we find find attractive and and the friend our friends with benefits we have we have regulars to come to all of our parties and And that regular basis is just growing and growing. It's the more and more people come along and really love our parties. So our group of regulars is growing on a constant as well as new ones coming in. Well, yeah, you guys have kind of set up the perfect thing because it's kind of like your parties are not just parties for you. They're like meeting greets for you to meet new people.

Like you're kind of like checking off two boxes at once because like you can flirt with people get the skinny on. new people and then possibly hook up afterwards. They're all there at your party. Yeah, absolutely. The party comes to us. Give me some of your guys' hottest experience. It just sounds like you have your pick of regulars and you have a lot of regulars.

Who's your top regulars and what goes down when you hook up with them? I guess one of our favorite couples, hot night. We head up and Flabreske actually. We went up there for all the weekend. And the husband took Ronnie and put her on the St. Andrew's cross. Yeah. You know, that is like that. Yep.

And because she'd never tried that before. And he's a bit of a dom. And his wife loves getting whipped to the point where her ass is just black and blue. It's like crazy. Wow. And so he gave Ronnie a way experience. And with that, and she actually quite enjoyed it. And was surprised her because she didn't think she would be into that.

And so by the time he got her off that cross, she was bloody dripping wet. So we went through to one of the rooms and the dark room, I think it was. And Ronnie started off. She was sucking her husband off. And she was in behind Ronnie eating her out from behind. And then Ronnie went down on her and was eating her out. and I was just rubbing Ronnie's ass while she was eating her out and I think she was sucking her husband off while Ronnie was eating her out

and then Ronnie gave her this orgasm that she'd never ever experienced in her life she was literally lifting herself off the bed when she was coming and that was so fucking hot and I just remember after that after she'd came down from orgasming she just sat up and just started passionate. running her like, I've never, ever experienced anything like that before my life. That was probably one of the hottest things I've seen. And do you, do you guys also hook up with the guy in that couple?

Yeah, so then after that happened, I was fucking his missus and Ronnie was fucking him. She's one of the, he's one of the, one of the guys that Ronnie actually finds attractive. And that didn't actually happen when we first met them. They'd come along to about three or four of our parties before Ronnie actually started taking notice of him and started talking to him and working out that she actually did find him attractive. Because as I say, a lot of it, a lot of for us is about the personality and finding that connection. We don't just fuck anyone where we like to have a connection on all levels. You can be the best looking person in the world, but if you've got a personality of a net, then you're not attractive. Or vice versa.

It could be a problem, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So I did have one night. I was also up at Pubra Ska. I had a very proud moment. We were going up there and we were going to meet this new lady that we've been talking to online just for lunch. And, or after lunch, actually.

And we had a couple of drinks. It was just supposed to be a meet and greet to see if we clicked or not. Yeah. And anyway, she was hot as far. and both Ronnie and I found her extremely hot and she just oozed sex sex appeal and we just hit it off and so we said oh so what are you up to you later on

we're going to the club would you like to come with us and she goes oh yeah that sounds like fun I've never been there before so she ended up to the club to the club with us the swing club and that was good and then we got I just happened to get a message from this other single female

that we were hooked up with before saying, what are you guys up to? And we said, well, we're at the club. So then the next thing, she also comes around to the club. And long story short, I ended up in one of the rooms with my wife and both these other hot single females. And I just remember walking out of the room and all the dudes in the club looking at me going,

you fucking lucky. Basta. Why are you so lucky? I don't know, Kathy. Maybe it's my shining personality of it. Oh, my God. What is your type? Do you have a type?

I know that your girl likes, like, fit guys that are cut, right? Is that her type? What's your type? What's my type? I don't know if I have a type as such. I'm an eyes, man. I love beautiful eyes. I love curves.

my wife's very curved, curvy Marilyn Monroe-type figure. Yeah. Curves in all the right places. So that would be my go-to, really. But I'm very similar to Ronnie as well. A lot of it comes down to personally. I love long hair and beautiful eyes. That's the first thing that will catch me as eyes and a nice smile.

And what's top of the mountain for you? Is it because, is it a threesome with a guy and seeing, your girl with him or what's your favorite thing? Yeah, to be honest with you, my favorite thing is to, is an MFM with, with Ronnie. Yeah, yeah, sounds like it.

Watching her with another guy, here's a kicker for you. Whenever we have a threesome with another female or another couple, I have to take it at some Viagra because I get anxious, nervous about being with another female. But whenever we're in a situation where it's an MFFM with my wife,

I never have to worry about it. It happened to me once. It's never happened before. But once it happens that one time, then it just gets in your head. And then you're fucked. It's just a mind game. Yeah, then you're fucked. The more about your fucking limp dick than the softer it gets.

I know. I had a guy once who was a boyfriend of mine who could never get it up. And I was so horny for him, I'd be like, put it in soft. I don't fucking care. And I'd get off on it. because we had like real dysfunctional chemistry with each other. And eventually over time, I mean in a very short time, that dick had no issues anymore.

And I always said it was because I never once mentioned it. I didn't fucking care. You know what I mean? Most girls would be like, why aren't you hard? Do you not like me? You know what I mean? And the more you talk about shit like that, the more it's going to perpetuate,

like the more it's never going to go away. I never said two words about it. I could have cared less, put it in soft and boom like I cured him. Because it is very much in your head. It can be. So you'd Papa Viagra and that helps? Yeah, absolutely. But I love eating pussy anyway,

so I can get nice woman off on going down on them anyway. So I'm not nervous about not being able to pleasure them as such. I just, you know, it just gets in your head that this fucking thing's not going to work. It makes sense because it happened that one time. It definitely could be that, just that literally that one time made you, like, backed you into that corner for sure. I believe that. Yeah, but I never, as I said, I've never, ever had that issue before and I've never had that issue when we have MFMs with my wife.

But, you know, no one else turns me unlike my wife. I think that's what the biggest problem is, is that to me, it's her pleasure that is the biggest turn on for me above all else. Even if we're having a forcum, as long as I can hear her moans of pleasure or that she's enduring herself, that just turns me on then I don't have any issues at all. Yeah. But if I know, I'm very intuitive, I'm in touch with her emotions and her feelings. And I know if she's not enjoying it,

I can sense it. And then it just doesn't work for me. Yeah, that makes sense. So you're really into compurgent. And that would make sense why that MFF is the top of the matter. Though you probably do enjoy seeing her being pleasureed by women too, correct? yeah absolutely as long as it's her

pleasure whether it'd be a male or female exactly but I do love watching her get getting fucked by another dude another cock so yeah it's crazy how you never realize that that would be your thing do me a favor Sam why don't you give do you want to give a shout out for your party

and where they could find it and all that kind of good stuff anyone that's listening in New Zealand or close by do you want to yeah sure um so you can find our parties on the Kiwa Swinger website and FitLife actually on my FitLife as well and they're called live entertainment lifestyle parties interesting and now you should get on SDC that's where I could get your free trial now I promote SDC I have a fill a thing with them so that you get free on there and you could go on there too but but people could find on fat life or kiwi what is it called again kiwi what

Kiwi Swingers. Kiwi Swingers. Yeah, it's the main website over here for Swinging. Okay, cool. Oh, I got some, I got thousands of people listening in New Zealand. That's good. So that SDC or whatever, is that actually used in New Zealand as well? I think so.

It's the largest in the whole world. It's like for people all over the world and people post parties, websites, meet and greets, anything you want on there. It's really great. And people sign up. there and so people could see the party list and all that kind of stuff. You get a free trial if you use my code 37712 or go to the description of any one of my podcast episodes and there's a link there.

And you could literally just sign up for the free trial and check it out and see if it like it would work for you guys to promote your party. And I'm sure you could go on there and see how many people they have in your area and all that kind of stuff for sure. Oh yeah. Well, that sounds cool. And I will send you some picks. I love that.

I want to. I want picks of you and your hot girl, but I would love picks of your party place that you put together if you don't mind. That would be super interesting too. Don't you think? Absolutely. So how would I send those to you? You could send them to me through via WhatsApp if you want, or you could email them to me either way. No dick picks, though, no tits in the shot, like no, no spread eagle pictures.

But that kind of stuff and picks of your parties and anything you want. You can post that on my Discord. Now my Discord is private, but I can give you free access to my Discord so you could go in and you could promote your parties there, talk to people, and post anything you want there. So I will send you a link so you could sign up for free. And then when your episode airs, you could go in and say, hey, I'm Sam. And then your wife, same thing. And you could talk about your parties and stuff.

And you could post stuff about it over there as well. And I can't give free access to Patreon. They don't allow that for people. but I can give you free access to my Discord. So I'll send you that link to sign in there. But get me the pictures for my Patreon as soon as you can. And then also get your girl to sign up for her episode, okay? Okay, Katie.

All right, awesome. Thanks, Sam. Thanks so much for calling in. I just want to say, Kathy, I've been listening to your show. I've listened to every one of your episodes. No way. Everyone? Every single one.

Oh, my God. Over the last three years, I started right from the start. And haven't I come a long way? I know. You don't even interrupt people anymore. You've done fantastic. No, I'm going to tell you a secret. I cut out my interruptions now.

Listen, I do interrupt so much better than I used to. When I go in and listen to ones in the beginning, I am like fucking horrified. I was like, oh my God. But, you know, and when people insult me for like episodes from 12 years ago, I'm like, fuck off. Who's good at their job when they first start? You know what I mean? Obviously, I've gotten better over time.

I don't interrupt as much. But those first for a couple of years were pretty brutal. When I listen back, I'm like, oh, my God. But, you know, I give you credit. And I love that. You did get a bit of shit. What? You did get a bit of shit about it.

But anyway, you definitely come a long way. And obviously, you're making a good living out of it now too, which is fantastic. Yes. Because I guarantee most people don't have any idea how much time and effort it goes into doing what you're doing. No, I know they really don't. It literally is a 24-7 gig because I used to have a YouTube channel of 42,000 subscribers over there, but like I have a Patreon with 2,500 people.

I have social media. I have to five episodes a week. And I do everything myself, editing, taping, like you don't know. And nobody really realizes. And but, you know, I do very well. And the fact that I get paid to do what I love, which is, this. I'm on the phone with you and I'm sure you could tell because you listen to all my episodes. Like I'm really like interested in people and their stories, right? This is what I fucking love and I get

paid for it. So it's really like the best time of my life because I did many other jobs before I wound up doing this. So I couldn't be happier. And you give fantastic advice, Kathy. Even, look, I think, did you say you wanted to be possibly like a psychologist or something? But you don't need a certificate to be able to give people good a bus. No, and you know what? The reason why I didn't go down that path because I found out that when you are a therapist you can't even give people advice.

Therapists aren't really, that's not really their job. Their job is to talk you into figuring shit out yourself. I like to shove my opinions down people's throats. And I do think I give good advice and I love it. And that's literally why I started my show because so many of my friends and

people in my regular life like just didn't want to fucking hear it. And I was like, wow, if I could do this call and advice show and I could meet people that actually want that, right? Everyone's happy because that's what I love to do. And other people now find me and that's what they want. And those are like my favorite episodes when I get to do shit like that. So it's all good. And I love that you love my show and that you've been such a loyal listener.

I hope I get you some people going to your fucking parties and shit and I can pay you back for being so loyal. I also love your, is it Lola? Lela. Laila. I love your girl talk with Laila. Just two females, just openly talking about this sexuality. It's actually really, it's cool. It's awesome to hear too, a woman just being able to express themselves openly and honestly.

And we're real friends. We became real friends, and that's why I think it really works, right? We talk a lot besides those episodes. So that chemistry is there. And I think that that's why that is so good. And she's cool. You know what I mean? Like I have other people I'm friends with,

but I like her vibe the best with for those things too. So I'm right there with you. I agree. I like those Lila episodes the best of all my girl talks. Yeah. Yeah. I never seen. Hey,

keep up the good work, Kathy. It was so nice to finally talk to you after a lesson in here for so long. Yeah, I love it. And make sure Ronnie signs up. Okay. Sign her up now. Yeah, 100%. All right.

Awesome. Thanks so much, Sam. You're up. So send me the picks too. Okay. Bye. All right, Kathy. Bye. Thank you.

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