Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 904 - Lara is Into Orgies, Gloryholes, Hotwifing and More

Episode Date: August 26, 2024

Lara is into orgies, gloryholes and hotwifing and she called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including how and why she doesn’t identify as a swinger anymore, her recent gloryhole experience at a lifestyle party and exactly what went down, the couple they hooked up with and how it turned into an orgy she and what went down, how and why she’s not into swapping and seeing her guy with another female, why she never imbibes before she plays, her recent hotwife solo date and why it wasn’t ideal, the surprise hotwife scenario she set up for her husband and exactly what went down, how and why their reclaiming sex was afterwards, the MMF threesomes they’ve had with a solo guy they met and what went down, how she feels about seeing her guy with another guy, the gangbang she is setting up for her 40 birthday and exactly what she wants to go down, how and why her guy loves to have sex with her after she’s been with someone else, the dad she met recently at the gym and the sexting that’s been going down between them, how and why she’s a total size queen plus a whole lot more. To hear the How to Mke Your D*** Thicker ep we discussed, check out episode #835 To see anonymous pics of LARA and pics of my other female previous guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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for SDC. So today I have on Erica. Oh my God, Erica never disappoints. Erica is a hardcore girl. She's called into my show many times before and she's always having new experiences and calls in and updates me on them. If you saw her pick, she's like on a scale of one to ten. She's like a 12. She's like super hot. And the things that she does is like so crazy. She called in to talk all about her newest experiences at a glory hole. She's done a couple things at a glory hole, which is pretty hardcore. She loves it. She does talk about a big orgy she wound up in. She went to go to a glory hole again and wound up in an orgy instead and then never got to the glory hole. She talks about that whole big orgy and what exactly went down. And then she talks about our hot way

thinking experiences with her guy. They had a couple of those. She loves those. Her guy loves those. She's in an open relationship. She talks about the gang bang. And then she talks about some buy play that she's had in threesome with her guy. And, she talks about that as well as the gang bang she is setting up for her 40th birthday party that's coming up and she talks about a whole lot more she gets super graphic and she tells a lot of details of all these stories you're going to love it you're going to love her like i said i have picks of her you would love her if you saw her even more okay her picks are over my paycheck but anyway i'm going to be right back on with erika hi erika welcome back to this strictly anonymous podcast how are you today

i'm doing well how are you i'm good you're doing well because you're just always having a lot of fucking sacks. You're like what I call one of my hardcore girls. Oh my God. You were just setting me pictures to go with us and you're like as hot as you are hardcore. So people are going to die when they see your pics and then realize like a hot girl like you could be into all the things that you're into. You've done a, you've called it before and I've got your whole backstory. You were married previously and then you bet a new guy. Now you're with a new guy and you guys have a very open relationship. You guys are very much on the same page and you guys are swingers, you're in the lifestyle, and you try everything. This update

we're going to be getting stories, lots of gloryhole stories, some hot wiping stories, threesomes with girls or bi-play. I don't know who's the buy in the situation, whether it's your guy or you, and some orgy stories. I don't know. Just a couple things going on. That's good. Oh, my God. Where do you want to start, Erica. I don't, well, let me, let me start by saying I no longer identify as a slinger. Oh, okay. So that's interesting. I like that.

How come? Because over the last few months, I've realized I have zero desire to just find a couple and swap or fuck the husband. Like that, that doesn't really appeal to me. It's not a turn on, not to say that I wouldn't ever do it again. It's just, I don't. see Sam and I as like a swinging couple. I see it more as just an all-around kinky couple. I like that. That's interesting. I think I did a poll recently. Do you like the word swingers or is there another one? Because I think a lot of people, listen, that's a specific thing. And it does tell you what someone's into. But there are so many other things that people could be into. Like some people that are into hot rafing, you wouldn't call them swingers. You're into glory holes. You do go to some crazy swinger parties and you do these things.

But that doesn't mean you're a swinger, right? Exactly. Okay, cool. Yeah, and I would say the parties that we go to are gear towards swingers. It's more an all-encompassing kink lifestyle type. So we haven't been to a swingers club in over a year, and we just, we have one local to us, and we just don't really have the desire to go to it. But we do love the parties, and we love the glory hole that they have at the parties.

So I know we've talked about it before, but I have been back to the Glory Hill a couple of times. She's the last time we spoke. The first time I was there, I kind of had the same experiences previously. I really like to sit in, it's called the Devil's Corner, so you have two cocks coming at two at once, and each side. So they have a little stool, and then the cops come in, and it's actually pretty, well, well situated to where you can sit comfortably and go between the two. And this time I had Sam with me. So he was filming us, filming me in the glory hole sucking the cocks.

And that was incredibly hot. He was saying all these dirty things to me, like how much he loves me being a com. slut and cocks slut and things like that and that just completely fueled me to keep to do it and then the owner of the parties she is actually a content creator and she focuses her content on glory hole encounters and she does this thing where she'll be like sucking a guy's cock and then she'll slide a condom on him and then just start fucking him and I thought I want to try that this time. So the next time we went, I started off by sucking different guys' cocks. And then there was one that was really like nice and sick. And so I asked him, I said, hey, do you have a condom? And he handed

me a condom from his pocket. And I just slid it on the guy and just turned around and started fucking him. And I came so hard because I just felt like it's just like one of those really naughty things to do. And and then he made me. fucking squirt like crazy. Do you always squirt? I forget. I do. I am a squirder, but he was just hitting me like on the right spot. And we had the whole thing on film and it is goals. Like it is the best video.

But paint the picture like, because listen, he's sticking his cock between through a wall, right? So it's in the middle of the thing. Are you bent over? How are you maneuvered? It's kind of interesting to me. So I had, so I was wearing just a short dress, no panties. So I just pulled the dress up and I put my leg, like my one leg on the stool that you, it's kind of like a like a upholstered stool, not like a bar stool, but you know, like just

the short stool. If I put one leg on there and then one leg on the ground and then I just kind of backed up into it, doggy. And so I was also stroking two other cocks at the same time. How many holes are in there? Well, there's two holes, but I was stroking Sam's cock too. Oh, my goodness. So it was like, I was fucking the one in the glory hole and then stroking the other two.

Crazy. It was, so then he came and then I started fucking another one. I did the same thing again. And then he came and we, at this point, it was like, oh, let's just go get like some water. and everything. And so we went out and the guy that had the second guy, he came over. And then we ended up having a threesome with him just on a bed at the party that night as well. Can you just a quick question, these glory holes that are they in a room and like it's cut through the door?

It's not like a sheet or anything. It's like a good glory. No. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So they're, it looks very professional. It's not like a sheet.

I've seen some posting on, like, different sites where it's, like, just somewhere behind the sheets. Not like that. It's like, they're constructed in the wall. Yeah, yeah. So you can, you can, like, harass down to the wall, and it's not going to. So I came out and the guy was just like, oh, my God, you're so fucking hot. That was so hot. And then we ended up looking up again.

And was he hot, too? Because, like, you're only seeing his cock. Nothing else around it. Well, and that's kind of the thing. I don't know that I would necessarily do this. at an adult theater that had gloriaos. But at these parties, the single men that they let in are all very attractive because it's centered towards couples, but also they're single male friendly.

I will say they vet people and the single male, the single males that are at the parties are all attractive men. And they're all men that I would consider. I were looking for someone to hug up with. Yeah. But I have to say that's the reason why I got into Gloria Holes, like fantasizing about one once for the week because I saw it on porn. And then the whole thought of the fact of just not even ever knowing what's on the other side

and just using like the cock like a toy and never having to see is like kind of hot. I was like, who cares what's on the other side? You don't ever have to see it. For you at that party, you do have to go out and find it. Right. It's like that's the whole thing about the glory hole is, you know, never know. You don't know what's attached to it. It's just a nice big fat cock. Sometimes it is attached to a guy you wouldn't be necessarily into, but, you know, that's the point of the

glory hole to me. You don't need to like anything else, just that. Definitely. Yeah, definitely. So it was good. Yeah. And it's just, it's very naughty. You know, in my everyday life, I don't think people would really suspect that I, you know, play this way or I'm naughty this way. So it does add to the excitement just knowing, oh my God, I'm like in the fucking glory hall right now just blowing like guy after guy. And the fact that I put my hand up and my man's cock is like hard as a rock watching me do this. It's a very hot situation.

Yeah, I can imagine. And that was the first time you fuck someone in the glory hall. Yeah, that was the first time. But definitely has plans to go back. The last time we were at the party actually, we never. made it to the glory hole because we ended up having an orgy. And so time just kind of ran out, but we still had a good time with the orgy. Just not the glory hole that time.

So the glory, the orgy, is this the orgy that you were talking about in the beginning? Is this the orgy that you're going to talk about? And then, so what happened at that orgy? And it was at the same party? The king party? It's the same party. Yeah. Just a different night.

Is this the orgy that you're going to talk about? And then, so what happened at that orgy? And it was at the same party? The king party? It's the same party. Yes, just a different night. So we got there that evening and we had kind of expectations of let's just go see. Maybe we'll get films some more in the glory hole.

And now we don't post our content anywhere. It's just for us. I put some anonymous content up on set, on set life. But I'm not on only fans or anything. But we love. making videos and watching them later and it's just it's a huge turn on so we thought oh we'll just go no expectation let's just get some good glorhole footage and we were kind of walking around socializing and this couple came up to us and the woman said hey are you and then she said my

fat screen name and i said yeah that's me and i introduced myself and i do have a fairly large following on fat life and so she's like oh you're you're really hot and then she actually told me that her date had been one of the guys that was in some of the glory hole footage that I had posted on set. Oh. So it was kind of cool. She's like, oh, that's my guy. I hadn't met him before. Yeah, I hadn't met him before.

So I was like, oh, yeah. They called him. He was my stunt dick or something. I was like, yeah, you were a great stuntig. I appreciated it. So we ended up going up to a room and talking with them a little bit more. and they asked, would you be wanting, like, down to play? And again, I don't love swapping with couples.

I am bisexual, but I kind of prefer my girl, girl play to be just girl girl play. Not necessarily. Yeah, I love that time with a woman. I would probably date a woman if I had that emotional capacity. I'm really busy with life right now. but I love, I love being with women. And so we started messing around a little bit. And backstory, Sam and I in our just day-to-day life have really been having a lot of discussions about him being with other women.

Because it is a huge, huge, huge turn on for me to be with other guys. But I don't love seeing him with other women. sometimes once I'm already really turned on I'm into it, but it's not something that I fantasize about or it's not a turn on for me to think about it. So we're both a little bit in our heads because we're like, oh, how's this going to be? But I said, let's just have fun. Let's mess around a little bit. So I actually went to the bathroom, came back, and he was going at it with the woman.

Like both of the guys were both him and the other guy were going. I don't exactly remember. I think they were, like, sucking on her tints or something. She was hot? Was she hot, by the way? She was hot. She was hot. They were both hot.

I would say, it wasn't necessarily my type right off the bat, but she was very, she's very attractive. So they were, they were giving her attention. I came up and I started kissing Sam, and then I started sucking his cock, and people started coming in to watch, which I am. huge, like I am an exhibitionist through and through. So that was kind of starting to feel my fire a little bit. So I'm sucking his cock and then she asks if she can help. So we're both going down on him and then I climb up and I'm like riding his face if he's eating me out

while she's sucking his cock and then her guy is fucking her. So while we're all this this goes on for a few minutes. I start coming and I think I might have scored it on his face. I don't remember, but the guy that we had the three thumb with two parties ago after I fucked in the glower hole, he came in and he asked to join. I said, sure. So I was riding Sam's face, sucking this other guy's cock, and then I started, I just got off of Sam and started fucking the other guy. then two more people came in and this couple were the couple that we had talked about on another episode where the woman was wearing a strap on and then she and her man were taking turns fucking me at the party so they came in and she and I started making out because I am 100% into her

like she's just so sexy and confident and I love confidence in the bedroom and I think that was of my hesitation with the first woman, she just didn't come up as confident. And she didn't seem very sure of herself. And I just, to me, if I see especially a confident woman, that's such a huge turn on for me. So the second woman and I just really start going at it. And she told me that she had actually made a dildo out of her partner's cop. so they made like a mold and she asked me if she could fuck me with it I said sure so they again took turn fucking me but they had the same cock because she was using the mold of his was it molded properly

it was molded properly and it was incredible that's wild it was the hottest experience and at one point she was she was fucking me and I started squirting and after we got done apparently she kind of like grabbed some of it and then in her hand and then gave it to her boyfriend to drink out of her hands oh my goodness it's just so hot and after we all got done that couple told me that they they love to like talk and fantasize about me while they're fucking. And that was the, like, the biggest ego boost because I don't, I don't see myself that way. But they're, they're such a hot couple. He does a lot of porn, actually. And it was just incredible. It was like that whole night. It was just incredible.

So no. How long did that whole orgy, though, with all those people hooking up take place? It probably was like an hour. I would say after about 45 minutes of fucking, because it was the couple was fucking me and then the other guy, he fucked me and both, I would say there must have been like five different ones fucking me, just kind of taking turns between that other woman and myself. The woman with the strap on, she doesn't play with anyone else other than women and her partner. So I don't know. It was quite a while. And yeah, it was a good night. Now, in those

three, in that orgy, because you don't really like to see your guy with anyone else, I know at one point you said the girl was blowing your guy. Is your guy banging any other women or is that not cool? Yeah, she, he ended up, because we were kind of doing like hand signals to each other from, we're in the same space, but he ended up messing around with her too. And, and, and, he ended up messing around with her too. And then afterwards, we kind of debriefed on the way home and he said, oh, I wasn't sure. I didn't want to make you upset, which I totally respected him. And we decided that if we're ever in that situation again, we're going to just kind of take a little bit of a pause and say, hey, let's just talk for a second so that we're both on the same page. Because it is very much

that heat of the moment to where you're, you're hot and horny and things are happening. And he's, And he's very cognizant of not making me upset. And so it was all good that night. But I do think in the future we're going to do more of a check-in before we really get going. Because there is a chance that you might be like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there's a chance that I would just be not into it or really into it.

Exactly. I'm very mood dependent, which I have a level of sympathy for him because I understand that it can be confusing. because I feel like guys, when they're into something, they're into it all the time. Yeah. But speaking for myself, it is very mood dependent for me for what I'm into. And that is one thing that I have really bound to myself in this relationship is I never do anything if I'm not 100% into it. Yeah, that's cool. And I never feel pressured.

I never will do anything because I'm in egregory. in some way. No, most, I would, I don't drink. Sometimes I'll smoke weed, but I would say 99% of the time I'm stone cold sober when we do any kind of outside play. I like to get, I like to smoke a joint and then have sex with him, but I don't, I don't like to feel out of control at all if we're in any sort of like playtime with anyone else. Yeah, that makes sense to me. Because you can't really relax. You're a little bit more, you need to be a little bit more on your game. You're with strangers, but when you're with your guy you could like fucking check out and how fun and do whatever. Exactly.

Exactly. So it's just it's been a growing experience because just being able to verbalize to him like, hey, I don't even know exactly why I'm not turned on by you with other women and having him accept that without an argument or without being, you know, disappointed even has been really awesome. And I do think that the more and more that we explore together, the more that we're kind of leaning towards the hot life dynamic, because that's what turns of both on the most. Yeah, that's interesting. So I know you have a ton, a bunch of hot wifing stories.

That's the perfect segue. Yeah. Well, I think the last time we talked, I had just had like my first solo date. It wasn't great. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't great. And after that, I kind of took a little bit. of a pause from it. We had a threesome with someone that was it was fine with another guy. And then I ended up having another solo date with someone who I met on Instagram. And this was a guy

who I had been following for a while and we always were kind of like flirting in the DMs, but hadn't met up or anything, had never met in person. So one night I was home alone and I ended up messaging him. I'm like, hey, what's up? And he ended up not working that evening. So he came over. And I let Sam know what was going on. But it was kind of a more independent experience for me. So I had him over. We ended up talking, just sitting on my couch talking for three hours before we did anything. And by the end of the three hours, I was kind of just thinking, oh, my God, am I going to get saying tonight or not? Because this kind of, I opened up on a new level to me, which ends up happening to me all the time because I just

am one of those people that people will talk to. But I'm sitting there and he's going through all these childhood traumatic experiences. And I'm thinking, dude, I want to be able to grab me. What is going on right now? Oh, my God. I know. Finally, it's getting late. I'm getting grumpy because I haven't gotten the dick yet. I said to him, I was like, so are we, you want to go to my room? We would move this off the couch. And so we finally went to my room and we started just making out. And I had, I have a size queen through and through. And this, this guy was very muscular, well-built black man. And I'm thinking that I'm in for a treat size-wise. I get his pants off and I was not in for a treat.

Five-size. And I'm thinking, I just spent the last three hours talking to you. Giving free therapy. And now I'm left with an average size dick. I end up giving him a blow job. He's uncomfortable taking pictures or videos. So it's like a strikeout all around. Oh, my God.

Right. you want the picks and stuff for your guy because this is this is for both of you it's not just for you even though you're playing solo you got to bring that stuff back to him that's what he's getting out of it exactly and he loves that so i'm thinking great this is just so disappointing we end up fucking and it was fine but again kind of just disappointment all around great guy really glad i met him as far as in the journey of life it was a great experience experience, but definitely not what I was looking for in the hot wave realm. So after that happened, Sam and I kind of reevaluated.

And I said I've had two solo dates, both of which have been lackluster. We didn't really have that spark when it came to your reclaim. It wasn't anything hotter than what our normal sex is, because our normal sex is really off the chart pot. So he said, I just don't know. I don't know if it's for me. We really like MFM, two guys, three sons, and that seems to do it for us. So we decided, like, let's just kind of take a pause and maybe I won't play solo.

So a couple of months go by, I will say we always fantasize and dirty talk about me fucking one of my coworkers. And this guy and I have that really thick sexual tension with each other. And we haven't acted on it. One of Sam and my boundaries are no co-workers, which I think is smart. But he and I just really have that tension. So a lot of times after work, I'll just come home and I will tell Sam, I'm like, you have to fuck the shit out of me right now because I'm so horny from being around this guy.

all day. So during this time, like we're still dirty talking about this, my co-worker, but we're not doing anything else. And it was fine. It was good. But then I started getting that itch. I want to surprise him. I want to surprise Sam with a true hot life experience. So I got home from work one evening. Sam was not at home. He was with his son somewhere. and I had planned a date with someone who I had been talking to for about a year, but I just hadn't ever made it happen with him. He's very good looking, like 6'4, really nice cock, great body, really fit, successful guy. He is married, but they're open.

They have a don't ask, don't tell. his wife actually has a boyfriend that she's had since before the two of them were married. And she only sees this boyfriend. So he was really knowledgeable about what Sam would want to see in a hot life video. So I decide, okay, I'm going to surprise Sam. It's going to be perfect. This is the perfect guy for what we want. So I have the guy over.

I get all dressed up, put on lingerie, and I take a picture just of myself, send it to Sam, dressed in lingerie. And he got it, and he was kind of thinking, did you just get something new and you're trying it on? Why are you sending me to this? To him. And then the guy comes over, we start making out on the couch. So your guy doesn't know. He didn't paint this story well. So your guy has no idea.

This is all a surprise. Okay, cool. This is all a surprise. Because I felt like the other times, the two other times that I had the solo date, we had kind of hyped them so much in our mind. So you didn't want to jinx this one. I get it. I didn't want to experience it.

Yeah, I get it. So we start making out on my couch. And one thing about my couch is in my living room, I actually have a security camera. So the whole makeout session is on is being recorded. And that feed goes straight to Sam's phone. I don't have it on my phone. And so we are making out, clothes start coming off. And things are getting really, really hot on the couch.

He's sucking my nipples. I start rubbing his cock. And I say, let's go to my room. And so as we're going to my room, I sent Sam a quick tax like, hey, check the security footage. So he can check the footage. And then we go downstairs and I'm sucking the guy's cock and he is so thick. Kathy, Sam has a really nice cock. Great.

It's my favorite one out there. But this guy is so thick. I can't even get my hand around it. Oh, it's one of those. One of those, yeah. And so I'm sucking it, and he's videoing me. How do you even fit it in your mouth? It was a challenge, but years of training led me to that point.

Professional. Yes. All that time in the glory hall really started paying off. Okay, so I'm sucking his dick, and he's videoing it, and he's asking me all these questions, like, Are you going to be like a naughty girl for your daddy? Like, do you like my, like, do you like my thick cock? Just dirty talking it up to me. And it was a really hot video.

I think Sam's watched it about a hundred times. And then he bet me over the side of the bed and like had me spread my butt cheeks and started fucking me. And he got all of that on video too. send to him. Oh my God. I was in heaven. It was perfect. Finally. From start to finish, it was exactly what we wanted. And when he got done, he came inside me because he had already had like his testing and everything. So it was just, it was exactly what we wanted. We had that cream pie fantasy of Sam fucking me with another guy's comment.

inside me so we were able to really just check all of the boxes and so I sent Sam the videos and he couldn't wait to get home to me to we actually kind of did the reclaim and it was really really hot and for the first time I got to realize what some of the other couples were talking about yeah that's interesting it took you third times a charm for you third times a charm yes yeah and I felt really comfortable with that guy because I think because we've been talking for so long, I had developed that friendship with him and the trust was there. And so I could really kind of let my guard down and just enjoy myself. Yeah, totally.

Whereas the other guys that was more new guy, didn't know them for the moment type of thing. So we've actually had a couple of threesome with him and he is very orally by. For men. Oh, these are the buy scenarios. So it's buy for your guy. Buy for my guy. Okay. So we've been exploring that and it's been incredible.

We've had probably over the course of our relationship, maybe 25 to 30 threesome. And the two that we've had with him have been top of the mountains both times. Really? Just incredibly hot. The last one we had actually was last week. It's a week ago today. Or, yes, a week ago tomorrow. And it was so hot.

Seeing another guy suck, Sam's Cock has been a lot more of a turn-on than I thought it would be. That's interesting. And it has been interesting. I've never watched gay porn or anything. It's just not a turn-on of mine. I love to watch gang-bang porn. I'm watching porn. It's either like gang-bang.

That's very common in women. Or like some kind of like messy deep throat. Those are my two go-toes. Oh my God. You're hilarious. And so seeing that, it's just been a really big turn on. And the last three son we had with him, I was getting fucked. And the other guy was on top of me.

He was fucking the missionary. And then Sam was. over by my head and I was like sucking his cock and I said to him I was like I want you to come all over my face well he's fucking me and both guys just like basically busted right in that moment and he same actually ended up coming in my mouth and then the other guy and I were kind of sharing the calm with each other and it was just incredibly hot and naughty all at once And then we got done and we're just looking at each other. Yeah, that was, that was amazing.

Yeah, I didn't know. How far did that, does the buy go? It's just like oral both ways or just like? Both ways. Yeah, just oral both ways. And that's been something that my partner and I have talked about because there's such a stigma against it. And it has really been a journey for him to kind of come to terms with it.

but it's it's really opened up our play and has just having that level of trust that he knows that like he can try anything with me and I'm not going to judge him not going to look at him like what's wrong with you or give him that negative reaction it has made our relationship better and vice versa too listen yeah he sees you blowing guys and fucking guys in glory holes and he's there's my girl I love you. That goes for you too. Because a lot of people on both sides don't roll that way. Yeah. And I feel like a goddess when I'm with him. And it doesn't matter if we're at the glory holes or we're at just the gym or whatever. He looks at me like I am the hottest living on the planet. And that feels incredible. Well, you kind of are. Those guys I think would feel the same way.

So our next adventure, we're actually planning. I'm turning 40 this summer. And so we're planning a gang bang for my 40th birthday. And we're in the planning stages for that. How many guys you want? What's your perfect gang bang for you? I think six or seven. Okay.

Six or seven. They need to be well hung. They need to be clean, obviously. like I want everyone tested ahead of time so that we can do cream pie finishes because that is definitely a huge huge kink of of ours and I want that alpha energy. I love guys just like with women. I love guys that are confident in the bedroom and who know how to fuck. Yeah.

And even though I'm a size queen, there is a difference between some guys that have big dick don't know how to fuck. Yeah. And some guys that have smaller ones do. So I definitely want that guy, the guys to all have that energy of knowing their way around a woman.

Yeah, I've heard from girls that girls that are into gangbangs, if you show up at a gang bang to fuck a girl, and you're one of the guys like, you better perform, okay? Because that's what that girl wants. Okay? And if you don't, you're like a waste of fucking time. She's there to get railed. Exactly. So you got to have

kind of stamina. And I think not all guys have that for sure. No, no. And they don't, they don't have the confidence. Then you have the performance issues. And once those performance issues start, that's it. It's over because guys can knock it out of their heads when once their dick is not getting up. And I feel for them. Like I don't think if that, when that happens, and I've had it happen a couple times in my adventures, I don't, I don't take it as like a personal flight or anything like that. I just know. that if a man is feeling that like fight or flight type of biological response, then he literally cannot get it up. And then once you get in your head, then it's just game over. It's not going to

happen. Yeah, forget about it. Yeah. And it happens more than you would think, especially in the lifestyle. I always, that was one of the things that surprised me when I started talking to people. I think even one time early in my days of podcasting, someone said, oh, and he came over or he was at the party and he couldn't get up. And I'm like, I think you're. lying. Who's not getting it up? So you're telling me there's a guy there and there's all naked people in front of him. He can't get it up. Yeah, like it happens all the time. And it is that performance anxiety because, you know, you're in front of people. It's very loaded. It could be loaded for a man or a woman. Women, men get in their head too sometimes. Definitely. I think men get in

their heads. I think that sometimes I know in my personal experience with Sam, he always is focused on my safety. So I heard Casey's episode the other day about her and Jason going to adult theaters and Jason feeling like he's working that entire time. Sam definitely says the same thing. Like when we're at a party, yeah, he, for the most part, he's not playing that much because he's always focused on me and making sure that I'm safe. Everyone has a condom on. No one's just coming in and touching me when they shouldn't be, things like that. So that's going to make it incredibly difficult to be turned on when you're in that analytical headspace. Yeah.

So this game bang that we're planning is going to be at a private, private location. It's going to be with guys that are vetted. We're going to use the owners of the parties that we go to. They have a roster of guys that they play with, that they film with. that they know can perform under these circumstances. So they're helping us plan it. And so I think in that situation, Sam's going to be able to really relax and enjoy the experience alongside with me. Now, will he be like the cleanup guy at the end?

Is he going to be? No. So he does not clean up. Okay. We've had these discussions about even the term like cuck versus stag. And I say, you know, cuckolding is when you like to see your partner be pleasureed by someone else. And the humiliation aspect of it that we see in the lifestyle or porn, that's like a more masochistic type of kink to it. It's not, cuckolding is not humiliation.

Those are two completely different things. That's how I feel. So, yeah. I agree. I kind of use, like, in my mind, it's like Hotwave, Cuck, but he prefers Sagg, Bixen. I just, I don't know. Yeah, it's because Cuck has a negative connotation, unfortunately, and I just think it gets a bad rap because people automatically think of that extreme, extreme scenario that you do see a lot in porn. But, like, when I, like, to me, those are extreme cocks, and that's rare.

That's more rare than the guy that just wants to see his girl get fucked and is in. to that and is a cuck. And so I, I use that word all the time. And I don't necessarily think the humiliation has to be involved. But a lot of people do. And that's why I think a lot of guys don't want them to be called that. Because most guys that want to see their girls get fucked by somebody else. It's not because they're lacking. It's just because they're into compersion and they want to see their girl in that way. It's like their own porn star kind of thing. Somebody recently just throughout there was a girl like, oh, my guy likes to see me fuck other guys. But it's not because he can't perform. I'm like, it's never

that's never the reason. I've never heard of a couple on my show that I've called up and said, oh, I'm out fucking other guys for my husband because he can't perform. And even with extreme cucks, it's not that they can't perform. They don't want to. They want to be denied. There's never that reason, but I think that's the other reason

why it gets a bad rap. People think, oh, this guy's getting his girl to fuck other guys because he can't fuck her. It's never the case. That's not the case. No, no. But he's not into cleanup. We do love the cream pie play, but it's, he loves to fuck me with another guy's come inside of me. So that's, that's where hit.

That's where that kink is with him. But he has, we, we have kind of talked about it here and there, but he has been a bull for couples for 12 years now. And so, and he's seen other cucks doing the cleanup. And it's not something that's really, he felt like it was hot, but it's not something that he's wanted to do. So we aren't there yet. Maybe one day that will be something that we'll want to try.

But right now, he doesn't do any cleanup. Listen, swallowing cum is like a big thing. Either you're into it or you're not. No big deal. You know what I mean? I could see why if someone's not into it or not. It is a big cell, right? It's not, oh, can you fuck me in a different position or something?

Could you swallow jizz? Personally, that it has. From someone else. Yeah. Yeah. I think that that's a whole other thing. So I could understand. why he's maybe not into that.

But you are, you're like very into Bukaki, it sounds, and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, I'm, I love feeling a man come inside me. I would say that is my favorite. Yeah. Because it's, it's just very, like, animalistic and sometimes violet and just to feel like his body, like, pulsing and feeling that release inside me. I love it. It is so hot for me.

But I do think it would be really hot to get like, have the, like a situation, like a gang bang that is Bukaki just to try it and see how it, how it would feel. So I'm open to that in the future. But gangbangs, I hear some women on your show and they have gangbangs like all the time. To me, they're just very hard to coordinate. And I so I want to kind of check one box at a time. So the cream pipe gang bang is going to be on deck for my birthday. And then in the future, maybe we can try Gukaki. Yeah, do you have one gang bang.

Listen, once you get that one gang bang going, I think like maybe then you have your roster, maybe you can make it happen more than once. But listen, there are gang bang coordinators for a reason. It's like anything, throwing any kind of party. If you want seven people to show up, you got to invite 20, right? Because how many are going to flake? And you have to. really vet people and have the right vibe and not it and that's what was surprising to me too because

I have heard of a lot of people who complain about the gangbings because the guys can't perform or they show up but the vibe isn't right the guys don't know what they're doing there's an art to it getting through there's right right and you know it's hard like I think it's really hard to find like you said the right vibe because I like to laugh and have fun while I'm fucking, I don't take it too seriously. And I want a group that I feel like I can be myself. Because that's when I have the most fun. Yeah.

While I have a ton of fun doing, you know, like the glory whole stuff and all of that, it's not the same as when you feel comfortable. And you can really, you know, let loose and just enjoy the moment. And so do you prefer like those threesome with that? guy now because you really know him and it's so great and you're comfortable and the vibe like you know that the chemistry and everything's there. Definitely. Definitely. And I have a bunch of guys on the roster. I actually just picked up a guy at the gym a couple of weeks ago. Which was actually a really funny story because this is my first time, well, one of the first times I've picked someone up in the wild.

Yeah, because there is a big difference, especially because you're kind of living a double life, right? Like you've got this professional life and you have this boyfriend stuff, but not a lot of people are just going to put it on the table at the gym. By the way, me and my guy, I get to fuck other people and stuff. Yeah, it was actually, it was a really, it was a funny story. We were out, my gym has a really nice pool. So we are out by the pool and our kids were actually playing together. And his kid grabbed his phone and he was like, oh God, give that to me. And he said to me, oh, it could have been really bad if she had gotten into my phone.

I said, oh, really? He was like, well, yeah. I said, well, I'll send you something that would be really bad if my kids saw it if you send me something. And he was like, okay. Oh, my God. So we're at the pool. Yeah. So we're at the pool texting each other, like dirty pictures from our camera reels.

And. Oh, my. Has he seen you there with your. guy? So he hadn't seen me there with my guy, but he actually, our kids are kind, they don't go to school together or anything, but they, they're in, they're the same age. And so they've played each other in sports and things like that. So there was a familiarity. Like, he knew I had a guy. And then, so as we're talking, he said something about a friend of his and he said, he has this really hot wife. And I'm like, well, is she a hot wife or is she just,

a hot wife. He goes, well, what's the difference? Oh, that's a good question because that's going to tell you a lot about somebody. And he was like, well, what's a hot wife? I was like, well, I'm a hot wife. He goes, what is it? I said, well, it's like, my guy really likes it when I fuck other guys. Oh, my God. Really? And he's got a woody. He did. I'm not going to lie, you just made my talk so hard. And so we were like we ended up flirting for

an hour and I was texting my guy and I'm like yeah I'm like picking up this single dad at the gym and I took a little discreet picture and he's a really good looking guy and

that next week our kids actually played each other in sports and so they got to meet, like the guy from the gym and my guy got to meet and then we all went to the pool together the next week. We have not hooked up yet. It's like the stars haven't aligned between all of our parenting schedules and everything to make it happen. But it's been really fun. Like we have set a lot of like dirty texts and videos to each other. And he actually told me that like hot wave

porn was, this is like number one go to. He just didn't really realize that people. did it for real. Yeah. I don't think most people would unless they listen to me show. I never knew. Seriously. Yeah. You know, it's very underground. But wait, what's his story? And then I need to know, like, how big is cock is. I hope you're vetting him that way before you get up. Oh, definitely vetting him. Okay. So he, I would say he's above average. Okay. Good. Yeah, probably like seven, seven to eight inches. So. Oh, my God. And thick? Yeah. Thick. Yeah. That length is too much. Oh, no, no, no, no.

You like that length? I like, I like that length. Why, you like it to hit your cervix? I am. I do. I love that. That's, I have the most intense orgasms because Sam is nine inches and thick. I have the most intense cervical orgasms.

Yeah, I didn't know that was a thing. That's a real different type of orgasm, right? It feels different. It radiates, like throughout your body. Yeah, it's like, it's amazing. It's really, really nice. So you're used to that. Well, yes.

And I will say that a woman's body changes every single day. So sometimes my cervix will be really low. Yeah, that's true. So where it is too much. And I'll tell like, I will say like, hey, like fuck me. Like I want to lay on my side and fuck me. You know, I will kind of give direction based on how my body is feeling. Yeah.

So I'm not the way. going to want Sam to fuck me with my legs up on his shoulders if my cervix is super low. But if it's high, I will have the most amazing orgasms of my life. Yeah, I never even knew that that was a different type of orgasm and that it existed. I think Layla has heard me about that. Yeah. So it is a thing. And it is one of the reasons I'm the size clean.

But yes, this new guy, he has a nice dick. He's single. he just has a very complicated schedule and so it hasn't it just hasn't worked out yet but soon soon yeah well i love that you call up to the fact that you're a size queen because i don't know if you heard my and i'm going to end with this but i'm just going to do a little PSA to guys out there because they're so ridiculous okay because like i had a guy on a very famous doctor out from texas he's a plastic surgeon and he figured out a way to make guys dicks bigger with filler that lasts forever Like it lasts for like 10 years.

Okay. I don't know if you heard that episode. You didn't need to listen to it because your guy's got a thick dick. But this is a real thing that guys can get that makes them a little thicker. It's not going to make them like a Coke can. You know what I mean? This guy isn't turning people into porn stars. This is the real deal, a real doctor.

It's incredible what he does. You see the before and afters. You're like, holy fucking shit. Like it takes the dick and it makes it like a little bit thicker. You know, and I did this whole episode with him. It was so funny because like literally, this guy can make your dick thicker. And not one girl would ever say, oh, I don't want a thicker dick, okay?

I'm sorry, but we all want thick dicks, okay? It's a fact. Sorry, raise your dick. Not like, yeah. And so every guy, okay, was commenting on my pageant, oh, like, first of all, it's like $6,000 to $10,000 or something. Like, big deal. Every guy was like, oh, my God, you want me to spend my whole life savings? I was like, I'm like, and no guy, size doesn't really matter.

I'm like, yes, there's no guy. ever that has a big dick like first of all size no girl is ever going to complain that you made your dick bigger and second of all guys what you need to know is like girls spend a 10 000 a year on botox and their hair and their wardrobe and everything else like the fact that these guys were complaining that once in their life they could just charge up their credit card for 10 grand and get a thicker dick and they were like they don't know that girls are walking around with their blowjob lips and their big fake tits how much the cost and their potts they're hair my hair highlights are

$600 every time I do it plus a 20% tip I'm like you fucking assholes these guys that they guys don't understand like what girls do you could literally make your dick bigger and a girl like Erica who's a 10.5,000 would fuck you $10,000 that's all it cost

go for it I was like really I don't know why I brought this up on your episode but I've been dying to complain about these guys that were all complaining about how much it cost right I know A woman, I did say something the other day, and it was like, if you're always tooling over Instagram models, make sure that you give your wife the budget and the time to work out, do all this stuff that we have to do. And you will see from my pictures, I am turning 40, but I do not look like

it. And I spend a lot of money to not look like it. So it's $10,000 is not a thing. Yeah, $10,000. Are you kidding me? Like every girl that's walking around with a big pair of fake tits did that in one pop too. And I'm sorry, but most girls would like a thicker dick. And I think I just brought up because that's like your thing and you're a size queen and you're talking about it. And there's nothing wrong with that. You know, and listen, years ago, there were no breast implant. So girls were like flat chested and they had to feel inferior and they were self-conscious. Now breast implants exist and they could go out and get them. And it's amazing. Like never before did I know that a guy could go get a thicker dick. And I'm like, now that it's possible. Go do it.

it. Yeah, but, you know, I think a lot of times guys aren't sitting around like, oh, I wonder how I can make sex better with my girl. Yeah, exactly. They're walking around with pregnant bellies. Like, you talk, no offense. You know what I mean? They're walking with skinny legs and pregnant bellies.

And they're like, why won't my wife fuck me? Oh, my God. I had a date the other week, like not last week, but the week before. And the guy showed up, like 40 pounds heavier. than his pictures. And I had a nice time with him at the bar, but I was like, I have to let you know there's not a sexual attraction there for me. And so I went home because Sam was at home waiting because we're going to try like a new

kind of date like me meeting up, the guy had a hotel room because he's in town for business. Yeah. And but he was literally like 40 pals. Like he had a belly that hung over his hand. And so I said, I don't see if there's a sexual connection. here. So I left. He kept texting me like every day. And I was going to just block him. But finally, I'm like, you know what? I needed to lay it out. And I said, I don't want you to take this. I'm not, it's not coming from a place of meanness. But your body does not match your pictures. And it's not right to kind of put

that out there and then show up as someone who is not fit. He obviously. He obviously, actually was like, you know what, this is actually the kick I need. It's like the kick in the pants that I need. I'm going to get, I'm going to get back on it. I'm going to show you blah, blah, blah. So we'll see. But he actually took it well. No, but that's cool that he did.

And I respect the fact that you did say that because, listen, if he looked fit in his pictures, it means he knows how to be fit. Get back to that and then call me. Yeah, exactly. But I always think there's a little bit of a psychosis there because what person, And, you know, it kind of says something about their personality. Like, I just always think they're, like, mentally unstable. Because who would just, like, sort of.

Who would show up that way? Yeah, who's not thinking that through. Somebody that's not really thinking properly. That's how I, you know, I worry a little bit. When I send, when I'm talking to a guy, all of the pictures I send, they're, like, within the last two weeks. Exactly. Like, the pictures I just sent you, those are within, like, the last month.

I'm not going to send pictures from five years ago. Oh, my God. I don't even want to look at pictures from 10 years ago, okay? Like, I have friends that send me pictures where they look like they were like supermodels. And I'm like, why are you looking at pictures of yourself? I'd kill myself if I were, you know, like I was sorry, live in the present and be honest about it. Exactly. Yeah.

And if you want to look a certain way, work towards that. Yeah. It's just, like, I am a single mom of four. If I can still look good, working full time, et cetera. Yeah. You're a single dude with no kids. Like, why are you that? Because girls will accept them.

But speaking of pictures, I got to wrap this up, and this is a great episode. Speaking of pictures, I have your hot pictures from two weeks ago on my Patreon. I have a million pictures of you. It's kind of interesting that you don't do any kind of social media stuff. People, I think, love that even more because sometimes people get turned off. Oh, they have an only fan. Everybody has an only fan. It's not that big of a deal.

But you don't. So if they do want to see you, I have like, your hot, hot pictures over on my Patreon. I do think like people wouldn't think a girl as hot as you would be doing as much as you're doing and the stuff that you're doing. I think that's what makes it kind of like super interesting. So those pictures are going to be over at Patreon. You're going to have to call me up for your 40th gang bang. I will. I'll let you know how it goes.

Yeah, but thanks so much for calling in with all these updates. It was super interesting. As usual. Thanks, Kathy. Appreciate you. All right. Bye. Bye.

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