Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 936 - Layla is Into Hotwifing, Women, Domming Guys and More
Episode Date: October 8, 2024Layla is into hotwifing, women, domming guys and more and she called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including when she realized she was bi and her first relationship with a g...irl, how she married a virgin and why she loved that he was a virgin, how and when her and her husband entered into the ethical non monogamy lifestyle and how hotwifing became a part of it, how and why she enjoys hotwifing over swinging, her hook ups with all of the mom friends she had and what would go down with them, the dungeon she set up in her garage and why she set it up, the guy she was with that she cucked and hotwifed for and what went down between them, the female led relationship she has with guy she’s into now, all the stuff he’s into include the mummy bag, cock cages, hotwifing for him, how she got her fiancé to hook up with a crossdresser, how they’re okay playing solo and how that works for them, how she loves pegging her husband and other men, the various the types of guys she sees in her dungeon and the types of things they like to do, how she met her current girlfriend and what goes down between them, her recent trip to Barcelona and what went down with the guy she hooked up with in front of her fiancé, her link brand she started plus a whole lot more. You can find her on FetLife: Professorlayla **To see pics of LAYLA plus see pics of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Okay, so today I have on Layla, Professor Layla. She really is a dumb. She's super open to. I mean,
Lila has been there, done that a lot of different things.
I feel like her story just went all over the place
because she really has done a lot.
She doesn't call herself a swing or anything.
She does some hot wiping with her guy.
She does do a lot of kinky BDSM stuff.
She's into women and we talk all about it.
It starts with her talking about when she got into women.
And then when she realized she was like a dom,
she was worked in a dungeon for a while when she was super young,
We talk about that.
We talk about her hookups with women as well as when she got into hotwifing and how she got
into that.
And she realized when she did that, there was no turning back.
She eventually did meet the guy who she is engaged to and they've been together for a while.
He's a submissive.
They do all kinds of kinky things together.
She's got now a dungeon in her house.
She does a lot of different things in that dungeon.
She calls it her studio.
and she talks about a lot of different things that go down there.
She talks about the hot wiping experiences she does with her husband.
She also has a girlfriend.
We talk about that, how that girlfriend is set up in her life.
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So I'm going to get right to it and be right back on with Layla.
Hi, Layla.
Welcome to the Strictly anonymous podcast.
How are you today?
Oh, good.
Nice to be on.
Yeah.
Listen, Layla, you got an interesting story.
You're one of those vanilla appearing women, right?
Maybe soccer mom, I don't know, SUV, PTA.
And yet you live a very salient.
double life. It's like you do have a double life, right? Would anyone in the vanilla world really
ever know what you were doing in your secret life? Probably not. I think they definitely would not know
at all. I mean, by now, all of my friends know because I've already kissed all my friends.
I would say that the average gel, seeing me at the grocery store, would never have an idea for sure.
And I know when we, before we started taping, I was like, oh, just remind me what we're talking about.
and you're like, oh, I'm like the mom that's like hooking up with the other moms when no one else
knows about it. I was like, oh my God, I don't even know where to start. Were you always a highly
sexualized being and you just kept it under wraps or did something happen and you decided to live
your best life? Well, I think what kind of makes me interesting is that I didn't even know this was a
quote-unquote lifestyle because I just was living this lifestyle. And probably about, I don't know,
12 years ago, I learned about set life.
They've been quote unquote the lifestyle and swinging and other types of things through a boyfriend
that I was dating.
But I had just been living that.
I didn't feel like I molded accutrimal like the tools or the gadgets or the floggers
or the stuffled stuff.
I just sort of lived that way.
And I didn't feel like I folded the costume, if you will, that people sometimes lean into.
Not the costumes are bad.
No, I get it.
But like, okay, so like, how old are you now? Let's start where we're at now. And are you in a relationship right now?
So I'm 53 and I am engaged. Also to someone who I would think would identify as a kingster.
And we ourselves have a very dynamic, a very dynamic dynamic. She identifies, I would say, as a submissive. I am a dominant.
Oh, I like dominant women. I don't think you come by them a lot. Yeah. Men love them.
I'm a masochist and he identifies as a submissive and a masochist and I definitely lean into sadism.
But I would say central sadism.
I mean, neither one of us are keeping marks, exhibiting marks in public.
We both have kids.
And so I would say pain, but not like the crazy stuff that you see on Fed Life, if that makes sense.
Yeah, totally.
So we'll get back to this place of where you're at now, what you're doing with this guy.
but let's go all the way back.
I mean, obviously if you have kids,
you were maybe married before.
Were you married previously to this guy?
No, a different gentleman.
And I would say my life in this category started probably as a teenager.
I would say, yeah.
I mean, I am bisexual.
I think my very first sexual experience was with a girl.
And again, that just seemed normal.
know nothing like it just I loved who I loved and I liked who I liked and so my very very
very first playful kind of pre pre-tong touching thing was with a girl and and I just I've always been
very drawn to women but I've mostly dated men if that makes sense in high school college just
always made out with my friends always got together with my friends I was always super
snuggily with my friends and I would say my real first kind of baby relationship with a girl was
at the end of college. Okay. And now when you were like when you're saying, oh, I was like making
out cuddly, had you gone down on a girl during those times or was it not until college when you
got in that relationship? It wasn't until the end of college when I would say I actually formed
a relationship with a girl. And then you went downtown. I mean like you,
you hadn't hooked up more than just like making out in the high when you were in yeah exactly just
that was my first time going downtown so now did king come next did you ever get involved in like the
swinger lifestyle and go to those kinds of places or was everything like that you did with like partners
so the the first kind of a kind of three-sum started with that girl okay so we had a guy in common
and we would get together with him and once she left college i still had one more semester
So once she left college, I continued with him, and we kind of had our experimental phase.
And then once I moved out of college to my first job, which was in a major metropolitan area,
this was when Madonna's sex book came out.
Do you remember that big metal book that she made?
Oh, my gosh.
You got a lot of shit for that.
Yeah.
So I got that book for my birthday, actually from my parents, which was amazing.
I was really into photography and art.
And so I actually moved to New York City where a lot of those pictures were taken.
And some of those pictures were in a club.
And I ended up moving about a few blocks away from the club that that book dungeon was in and started going to some of those clubs.
So I'm in my young 20s here.
And that was my early life was just learning.
how to mind, mind fuck people, not even just, you know, it's not always so physical. A lot of this is just all in your mind. So I just did a lot of observing. I wasn't receiving in those days. I was, I was mostly observing and I took that home with me. And my, my first husband was actually a virgin. What? How old was he?
He was 26.
Were you like, why the fuck were he still a virgin?
Well, I, I, I, I fucked him up.
I mean, I just, like, my little vixen mind, I mean, I was just like, you know, I have a little
plain thing, like a little mouse.
And I was just like little kitty cat.
Oh my God.
So you enjoyed it.
So you liked the fact that he was a virgin and you could like gong him.
I got off on it.
I got off on it.
Oh, you are a little fucking dom.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I know.
I loved it.
I loved it.
it. I didn't even have those words at the time, but I just loved it. And I mean, I would put him in
these pain, stress positions. And I would like, I'm not going to touch you. And if you drop the penny
that I put between your fingers, you're not going to get any. I just, I'd put him, like, he'd have to be
on his tippy toes with his fingers outstretched, holding a little penny in each little pincher
finger set. And I just put him in these stress positions. I mean, I have no idea what I was doing,
but I still use some of those tricks today. Yeah. And you enjoy.
And this wasn't even like your work.
I mean, this is like pleasure because this is with a boyfriend, correct?
Yeah, this was with my first husband who was a boyfriend at the time.
Oh, okay.
So that's how he started out.
And then you married this guy.
Now, was he considered a cissy?
Is that what he identified as?
Like, your cissy slave?
I would say he would never, ever say that.
And I think that our bedroom life was relatively vanilla.
Like, we didn't do swinging.
We didn't do any of that stuff.
He didn't come to those clubs with me.
All of that type of, that part of my life was more private for me.
But the way I treated him and the way I connected with him was very dominant.
But I don't think he would enjoy the concept of him being considered a submissive.
Interesting.
Obviously he was.
Come on.
Yeah, of course he was.
Yeah.
And you guys were the perfect match.
How long did you stay with him for?
We were together 12 years.
We've been divorced forever, but I was a single young mom in my young 30s, and I've had a blast in the last 20 years.
So do you want to go through those kinds of stories, like from there?
Sure.
So let's see.
I think, again, most of my dating life has been traditionally dating men.
I have had a few female relationships.
relationships. But I've always been with women. Like most of my boyfriends have always let me have
what they would call our whole past for girls. And I always really love that and took advantage of that.
But the ethical non-monogony lifestyle that I currently live, I would say started about 12 years ago.
And that I think is really more kind of where I'm at now. And what's,
that looks like has traditionally been, I would say more of the hot life scenario rather than swinging.
I've never really identified as a swinger.
And I think part of it is, and I don't want to make anyone upset, but I think part of it is,
I just don't like the randomness of it.
I like the mind connection.
and the stuff that goes on, not between the sheets, but like between, again, the mind between the years.
And so we have, where I live, we have nearby a swinging club.
And of course, I've been and I have fun and it's really, it's mostly just fun to watch or be watched and observed.
But I just don't, I just don't typically connect with people one on one there or in a group.
setting. I just mostly like the exhibitionism of it rather than the interactions. That's what that's what I like. And in this particular club, they have kind of a BDSM wing or area. But it's really BDSM light. It's nothing compares to New York. It's just when you worked in, you mean with that dungeon? Yeah, that was incredible. Yeah. But.
When you were doing the free passes with the women.
So is it safe to say that you had kind of like a monogamous relationships with the men that you're with at that time?
But you were always able to have sex with a chick if you wanted to.
And was there one woman in your life that you would go to for that?
Or like, where would you meet the women that you hooked up with?
Yeah.
So I, like I mentioned, I kissed almost all my friends by now.
And it's happened in different ways with each girl.
I definitely, as I got into more of my suburban life and doing the kid thing, I had to be creative.
So I somehow always found the other moms that were also like me.
And what I love about my sex life and kink life is that I really like to push the boundaries.
So as a simple example, we had, this woman and I had similar age kids and we would find ourselves at kid events at school or playground or whatnot, field days.
And we'd always find a way to sneak away.
So one time there was a science fair when the kids were in elementary school and we hid out behind.
So the stack of poster boards and made out.
And I mean, we just love kind of pushing the boundaries and being silly.
But then, of course, we had our own playtime too.
But again, you have to be creative when you have kids.
I know, what would you do when they were taking naps?
I have mom friends.
I know what goes down between them, but not when they're hooking up.
Yeah.
I mean, thank God for soccer practice and games and away games.
So we'd always try to connect our schedules.
And she'd come over and she'd back.
I have an hour and 45 minutes.
And so, I mean, hoister up on the kitchen counter and spread her legs, lift her skirt, and go to crazy.
And you just do what you can with an hour and 45 minutes.
I mean, I am very creative, A, and B, I always make the most of my time.
You know how to get it in if you need to?
Now, how many of your friends, those mom friends that you wind up going down on, like in hooking up with in that time?
Well, there's definitely four.
Plus a few others, but definitely four regulars.
And to our moms in the neighborhood and to our friends from the old days that eventually put all the pieces together on me.
And one particular friend I've known for over 20 years, she and I went to a concert.
And it was just, I mean, we are friends.
We've known each other forever, but we went to a concert.
and we just started making out during the concert and rushed down in there because we just wanted
to make out more. We went to the bathroom of the concert hall, continued the fun, realized we were going to
need to do more than that. We went to a fancy hotel lobby, started making out there, went to that
bathroom, got kicked out of that hotel. Oh, my God. So, I mean, literally we're like,
she went down on me and we're in the hotel, in the hotel bathroom. It's a very nice hotel. And this
bouncer guy comes in. He goes, ladies, really? I'm like, oh, man, tell me you don't like it. Tell me you
don't like it. I like it, but you got to leave. Oh, that's so funny. He'd get in trouble.
Yeah. So these are my post-divorce lovers, these girls that I just mentioned. My first husband was
very vanilla. Like, he was very uncomfortable with that. In fact, the one friend I did hook up with, he, which was a
female. He was very upset about. So that those couple of years were very quiet in terms of my
extracurricular activity. But in the 20 years that I've been divorced, I've had lots of fun.
And my, my fiance is really, really remarkable. In fact, I think he just loves
old being fully self-expressed. And he really encourages me to experiment or do different things. I have,
a garage that I renovated and I have sometimes people here to connect with. Mostly either BDSM or
sensual massages. So I would say in the last maybe six or seven years, I see people for those
types of activities. In your garage. Like you have a little dungeon in your garage?
Yeah, it's a, it's fully renovated. I mean, it looks like a house, but now it is my she shed with steroids.
And I have several locked boxes with all my toys. And there are two beams in the studio that I have four eye hooks on each beam and lots of toys and ways of strapping people up or keeping them quiet.
and have some nice extracurricular fun in here.
Oh, my goodness.
So you've been with this guy that you're engaged to for a long time?
Six and a half years.
Oh, okay, cool.
So is he the one that got you into hotwifing?
No, that was someone about six years prior to him.
And it was his idea.
And I thought, oh, my gosh, what if I like this?
Like, I'll never, I'll never be able to go back.
And it kind of is true.
It's kind of true.
At the time, if it were up to him, he probably would want to see me with a new guy every day of the week.
I mean, he was just so into me feeling self-expressed and adjured.
But we settled on, during that course of two and a half years, we settled on two lovers that I saw relatively regularly, sometimes with him, with him watching.
sometimes with him on Skype back then.
Then we had Skype.
He loved photo evidence and videos.
He just loved being a part of it, even if he couldn't be there.
And he would dare me.
He had this dice and each number of the dice had a different little associated tasks.
So I liked kind of that witchy, cucky side of him because he would give me
those dares, which kind of gave me that permission to be naughty. But then here I am like tormenting
him. So it was a nice little balance back in the day. And now when you met the new guy, the guy that you're
with now, the guy that you've been with for six years, were you straight up with him about what you were
into and what you had done and that you didn't want to think you could, that you did want to
continue hot wiping moving forward? Because you did say, once I started doing it, I realized I can't
go back. So did you go into that relationship open?
Yeah, I mean, I've been pretty open over the years with my potential partners because I just think life is too short and I don't want to waste it.
And I also don't want to train everybody all the time.
It takes too much work.
And I want to be lifted up too.
I don't want to do all the work.
So he came in looking for a female-led relationship, so SLR.
Yeah.
And he already had us that life profile.
He identified as submissar.
He had dated a dom before and knew his place.
So that worked well for us.
You even just got like a dom tone just that.
And he knew his place.
I don't know.
You just switched into dom mode for a second.
I don't know.
I kind of hurt that.
I don't know if anyone else did.
That's so funny.
Right.
So at this point, because you're so heavily into this,
You're just on FetLife.
I mean, that's where you're meeting the guys to date and everything.
It's not like you're on Match.com dating regular guys and then you have to sort of spring it on them.
You're out in open place when you are dating and looking for potential partners on FetLife.
That's where you met your guy.
Well, truthfully, I never really liked that approach.
I did the quote unquote match.coms in the world.
But I always relatively soon mentioned FetLife and typically the-
second, third date, we would, we would look at each other's
fun life profiles because... Wow. Why? Because they were on there too, the guys you
met on match, is what you're saying? I typically would grab, I would say
something in my profile that would allude to a
adventurous side of me that was well formed and that that was an
integrated part of my life and that I was not just
you know, an evidential girl, if that makes sense.
Yeah, so you were very, you were pretty open even there when you were over there.
So you attracted people that were like you, even on those apps.
And then I would typically vet them pretty soon.
And I would say nine out of ten times they had a fat life profile.
Wow, isn't that crazy?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's great.
And so you knew how to sort of put it out there.
Yeah.
And some, for example, some were really, really, really exploring.
for example, one guy who I really liked, and I thought he was just amazing.
He was so uncomfortable with his own personal identity.
He was more into dressing up and that kind of thing.
But he wasn't really comfortable even in his own skin.
And I didn't pursue it with him because, again, I just don't need the heavy workload.
Because you're so comfortable.
You want to meet somebody where you're at, which is.
fully actualized and stuff like that, right?
And so I feel like the person who hasn't really accepted
and isn't so comfortable with their stuff
isn't going to be the right match for you
because you are already there.
Exactly.
So that makes sense.
I can't grow within my relationship.
Of course.
Even my relationship,
he has standards,
and things that he's wanted to touch on.
We just bought some cool stuff.
I said, hey, honey, forget all the stuff
that you and I have done.
any of that stuff, go online and buy all the fun stuff that you want and let's just have fun.
And so he went and bought a pair of tits.
He bought so clothes.
He did.
He bought a wig and he got one of those asphyxiation meth and one of those body bag things that, you know, like a mummy bag.
He got all these fun things.
And you know what?
Some things we probably will only play with once.
Yeah.
And some things we'll go back to.
I mean, the mummy bag.
I tried it.
What is that?
Oh my God.
So it looks really scary, but it's basically, if you can just picture a mummy in its little cloth,
but it's black and it looks like it's leather and it looks really scary.
But it's basically like a swaddle.
You are in it and you're hugged.
I fell asleep in it.
It was so comfortable and it was so relaxing.
And I zoned out into a place I have never been before.
I mean, I was snoring.
I mean, you can do other fun things in it.
There's different little holes in places if you want to play with someone's cock or pussy or ass or tits or whatever.
But there are laces and little wrapping things that you can make it snugger.
And you're helpless.
I mean, you're in it.
You're helpless.
And again, if you're with someone that you trust, I mean, it's a great, great, great experience.
Yeah, this guy and this guy goes in it.
You'll go in it.
I mean, you kind of switch a little bit because I'm wondering who's the mummy and the Dom sub-release?
I would think it's a sub, but you're the Dom and you go in there and you're like snoring.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. He for sure, he, he bought it for him and I did it, of course, on him. But as I evolve, I mean, I've been, I've been the Dom for whatever, 40, 35 years. I was like, I want to try that. And so I did. I tried it. Yeah. And you enjoyed it. Why not?
Yeah. It was a vacation. A little bit of a vacation.
But this guy, though, is also into hotwifing, correct?
Because I know you started it before him.
Yes.
He and I are, I don't necessarily think we have a full cup hot slash hot wife relationship.
It has, it has, it's kind of evolved over the six and a half years.
He used to travel a lot and I would always send him in a cop cage.
So he would be in a plastic cock cage that you could go through security in.
And he would be in that I held the keys.
And when he was on his work trips, I would go on deep and send him video evidence or some sort of evidence.
So for, I think about three of those six years, that was kind of a regular exchange for us.
But with those dates include sex, or was it just like a first date kind of a.
thing. They weren't always sex, but they were certainly designed to be sexual. He was down to,
he was into it. I mean, it wasn't like, yeah. Okay, cool. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. The fiancé was into it.
And if I was meeting somebody for the first time, I'm, I'm of the mind that I don't need to do that.
I will wait for the right opportunity. But again, I think I'm really selective about who I have sex with.
Mostly, I mean, of course, there's the random moment that takes over, but I don't, I don't, on a first date, I don't need to have sense.
I mean, there have been the obvious setups where, for example, my birthday this year, my fiancee set up a date for me.
And it was somebody who was visiting from another state. And it was sort of like a one-time opportunity.
So we did the whole scenario where we met an.
bar and the guy picked me up and we were already in the guy's hotel so we went upstairs but you know the
the thing was i'm meeting this guy for the first time which i kind of was but the idea was to have
sex with him and be part of that so he that particular guy and i got along really well so i did go out
with him again before he left and we had a one-on-one date but the first date was with the three of us
and it was a threesome so it was a lot of fun now does your
guy hook up with guys or are your like are your three sums you know m mfs or mfms like where they're not doing
yeah my favorite is when everybody cross-tropomingles i really like that and so my fiance's cherry has
been popped which is very exciting the way we did it was with a cross-dresser who i know who i love
and the cross-dresser had a great time he came to the studio and got himself a dog
up and did its makeup. And I helped him with all of his corset stuff. And then my fiance
came in and I wasn't a part of it sexually. It was the two of them were together. But that was
the first time that my fiance had sucked cock. And it was just the best day of my life. I
loved it so much. And then we started to do more male, male, female, three sons. Again,
where I was, quote, unquote, the treat.
But we did different dynamics where he was really dismissive waiting in the corner.
One time I tied him up to a radiator and made him watch and all that good fun stuff.
So it kind of grew from there.
I mean, then he fucked someone in the ass.
Then he got fucked in the ass.
He kissed a guy for the first time literally a week ago.
Oh, my God, buddy.
I know. It's just like baby steps. I mean, I'm so proud of him and it takes a lot of courage to be, again, he's very vanilla looking as well and very corporate. And it's just so much fun to play and surrender to your fantasies.
Yeah, for sure. Now, when you said something real, you said, oh, and then he came to the studio. Is the studio your garage? Yeah. Okay, cool. Now, do you do girls?
stuff in there too with your guy? So I'm off a girlfriend. I've had for about a year and a half.
Oh, we got 38 minutes into it. And now you're telling me about this girlfriend that's in your life.
Yeah. So we're, I think, I think she and I are definitely our girlfriend, girlfriend.
But mostly she and I are together on her own, but we do sometimes play with my fiance.
So New Year's Eve, we did a hotel takeover. And she came with us. So,
you know how they do those speed datings and things in the hotel takeovers and you usually again
it's just one-on-one but she would come along with us as a set and so it kind of threw everybody off
that we have this extra appendage but really again i'm not i don't really want to play with other people
i just want to play with us but it was fun to be in the pool all three of us and do fun things
together and then of course we spent the the weekend together and so he has not had
sex with her, but he's done everything but with her. Now, do you enjoy watching him with her?
I love it, but I don't really share him with girls other than that. I mean, we had a four-sum last week.
The weekend he had his first kiss with a guy, and that was a lot of fun, and he did go down on that
girl and back and forth. But we really up until recently haven't really allowed him to do that.
And is that the domine you kind of? Because listen, when I was just telling you before, I was like having a
talk with someone on Patreon who was like trashing one of my guests and saying, she's so hypocritical.
People always listen to these hot wife stories and they're always like, oh, I can't believe that woman.
Like she gets the fuck other guys and her guy can't fuck other women. And I'm always like, listen, most of the time when I'm listening to
these stories. If that's what they wanted, they'd be swingers or they'd be something else. But in the
hot wafing world, typically a lot of times the guy doesn't give a shit about being with women.
Their pleasure comes from seeing their girl with another guy. He uses the word compersion.
And our friends that we have shared our lifestyle stories with, I would say either are more
familiar with the Polly concept or just general ethical non-monogamy, which tends to be a
little more quote unquote equality focus. Yes. He's not equality focused at all. Like he quote
unquote doesn't need anything but me. And you and I mean, I have checked with him a hundred times.
We have a couple's therapist. We've talked about it. I mean, this is real. I mean,
he, he likes the control. He loves it. You don't have to tell me. I've taught, I have over 800,
I have almost 900 episodes. And I would tell you 95% of the men who get off on seeing
their girl with another guy, that is their variety. That is what they want. And if they're getting that,
they have zero interest in fucking another woman. That's not a part of it. And I hear it all the time.
And that's why everyone's happy because maybe a lot of times those women don't care about that either.
I mean, to me, it's all about what works for the both of you in a relationship, right? I mean, you obviously,
you like it. You're into chicks. I mean, but it's what he wants. Yeah. I mean, you.
We, I mean, again, we did along so well that we could literally go to Home Depot and have a good time.
But when we're in a scene or a setup, I mean, it's just so much fun.
And I think he's having fun no matter what he's doing, whether he's, like I said,
chained up to the radiator or on his knees or in a stress position or blind someone's cock.
I mean, he's just having a great time.
Do you peg him?
I do. He can take it. I really only have one, one dildo and strap on. And that's for what I
bought when I was dating a woman. So it's a real size cock. So when I'm, when he's out of practice,
we have to go slow, but he can take it. And do you enjoy it? Oh, I like it a lot. I, I, I, I, I, I really
enjoy that fucking aspect. Do you find most of your guys, I want to get back to your girl too,
and I remember that I want to ask some questions about your girlfriend, but as far as like these
guys that you're pegging other guys too, I mean, do you find most of these guys who come to
your studio, who you do your can't fantasies with, do you find them mostly on FetLife?
Yeah, they find me on Fet Life. And I have seen a range of people. I mean, I, again, I just
really loved the anthropology of all this. Like I literally had to say, I literally had a
the guy just want to walk around in a diaper.
And I've had guys bring their first round of clothing.
They've never put it on, but they just wanted someone to appreciate them.
I've seen guys of all different types.
And I just love the humanity of it.
I just love being a safe person for them.
Yeah, I love that.
There used to be a place before my studio got built where we would go and rent for a couple of hours.
and she had different rooms with different types of outfits.
I've taken guys there, done their makeup.
That particular lady, she had also lots of different fun tools and things
so I could clomp them or paddle them while they were in their little outfits.
I have a very big fetish community that's going to fucking love you.
Do you want to give out your fat life?
Sure.
It's fine.
People are going to ask me, please just do it.
so I don't have to email everyone back.
Yes, Professor Layla.
Oh, I love it.
Professor Layla.
Okay, cool.
So go on.
Sorry, I interrupted it.
So that particular lady, she was a riot.
She was super old school and old also.
She was in her 70s.
And she had an entire apartment that was just for this business of hers with all these different rooms.
And, again, a dedicated room just for makeup and rigs.
and we had two full hours.
We could play, play, play.
We could run around the apartment and have so much fun.
I've never taken my fiancé there.
I think she's either died or mobed, and plus COVID, I'm sure, put her out of business.
But that was a lot of fun.
Wow, so interesting.
She was ahead of her time because obviously she didn't start it when she was 70, right?
She was probably doing that before anybody wasn't catering to that, those people.
And listen, there's so many people.
I went on to Craigslist too many years ago.
when I needed guests for my show, because I started podcasting like 11, 12 years ago, right?
When nobody was doing it really.
And I needed guests for my show.
So I would go on Craigslist.
And I couldn't believe, like I was like every other person out there.
Like, I just had no idea that all these different fetishes and kinks existed.
I mean, it had no idea that there were guys out there that were into all these different things, you know.
And they needed, and they need places like that and women like that.
and people to feel safe with like you say,
like you love to be that safe person.
It's a whole sort of group of people
that do need those kinds of services
or people like you.
I mean, that's why I'm like,
oh my God, my crush sister should listen
and my guys who are into diapers.
I mean, I've heard it all on my show, right?
They're going to be like,
where the fuck is Professor Layla?
I'm going to be obsessed with you.
I mean, I've run into a couple of these people
in the vanilla world.
And I think it just,
I see.
them in a restaurant or maybe they're working even in the restaurant. And it's just, I just love their,
I love the normalcy of their, of their fantasies. I get, I just feel like I get people so much more now
that I've started to let myself give those sessions because I think nothing is weird to me anymore.
Nothing is, is odd. It's all good. Yeah, exactly. I had somebody on my, I just saw a review recently that
someone just wrote, oh, like, you're so, I just love your show, but I just wish you'd be less
judgmental with your guests. I'm like, judgmental. Like, nobody would ever call me judgment.
You can't do my show and talk to the people that I talk to and have these conversations be
judgmental. I have opinions, okay? Maybe that's what you're getting fucking confused with,
but no judgment for me. I'm like super open and nothing seems weird to me. Like people would always
email and be like, oh, like, thanks for your show. I love it. Like I just listening to these weirdos makes
me feel more normal and I'm like, but what you don't understand is I don't see these people as
weirdos. Like these are regular people and this is like the shit that they're just into. It doesn't
define them. You know what I mean? I really don't see it that way yet some people do. You know,
I'm like you. Once you know about it and stuff and realize, I'm always like there's no pervert
island. Okay. These people that are on my show that are doing these things, the people that you see
that come to your suit. These are regular people that are out and about. They look like everybody else.
They're doing the same things you do.
They have lives and careers and homes and all these things.
And this is just what they're into.
Big fucking deal.
Who cares?
Why do people care so much?
Yeah, that no one should care.
And the fact, I don't know.
I just, I don't personally get it.
But again, that was sort of my entree to all of this.
I don't know how I got to be the way I am because I was raised by a pretty conservative
mom.
But I just, I just have always been okay with all of this.
I guess that's why.
Yeah, maybe.
I always, what you resist persists.
I mean, sorry, the more conservative you are, the more somebody rebels, if you ask me,
being super open sometimes creates the opposite.
So, but wait, let's get back to your hot story.
So do you ever get women coming in for, like, your sessions to be dominated by you,
or is it just strictly men?
Less and less, very, very few women.
I recently, this week got someone, a woman, actually,
a friend of one of the girls I kiss, the one that I got kicked out of the hotel with.
Yeah.
Her, she learned from my friend that I do BDSM sessions.
And she's, I'm exiting a marriage.
I have been in a vanilla marriage.
And I just don't know if I could trust a man to explore that with.
And I'd love to explore that with you.
So that's kind of more the tiger women that approach me are really just people who don't feel safe, exploring that with men.
And they have either heard about me from a friend or a trusted person and they want to go slow.
And those end up becoming very healing in other ways that are unexpected.
Yeah, of course.
They're very non-sexual and very deep, deep, deep work.
Yeah, that's interesting.
Let's get back to your girlfriend.
I forgot to ask questions about that.
Like, where did you meet her?
Was she someone that you just hooked up on Fat Life and then you developed a relationship?
or was this one of your friends, the one that you've been with for a while?
So I met her at a community weekend event at a friend's house,
and we had done a type of personal development workshop,
not together, but we had done the same workshop.
And these were people who had all done that type of workshop.
So it's a sex positive type of personal development.
And so the weekend was very clothing,
optional and lots of little kind of mini workshops that were just led by friends.
So there was like a kink workshop, there was like a bondage workshop, there was this thing called
Liquid Love. Do you know what that is?
No.
You do?
No.
Oh, so basically Liquid Love is a giant, giant tart that gets taped up on the floor and on the walls
and gallons of warm coconut oil are poured in there,
and you just get naked and roll around with blindfold.
Oh, my God.
What does this call liquid love?
Liquid love, yeah.
Oh, my God.
And so men, women, like anything goes kind of thing?
Yeah, this was just a weekend with friends.
So there were 11 of us.
And I was solo that weekend, and she is a single woman.
So the two of us kind of made eye contact and decided
share of bed because there was only limited bedrooms and beds available. So we just were like besties
right away and had this very kind of intimate container to start a friendship that became more.
And it just lasted. How long you've been seeing her for? About a year and a half. Right. And you have
romantic feelings for her too or is it just a sexual relationship. Would you consider yourself
bisexual? I am bisexual, yes. And she's probably more in the poly world, but she is pink as well. So kind of
kink, kink, Polly. So she has other partners. Right. But you could develop feelings for her. That's a little
Polly too, right? I mean, if you have feelings for your guy, do you also have feelings for her?
Yeah, I think I think I'm capable of Polly. I have never officially come out as Polly. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I think just because my partner is just so cool, I don't really have to manage anything with him.
But she and I do touch base about our relationship now and then in terms of, are we seeing each other enough?
Does she need more for me?
Do I need more from her?
And I think it's probably the least defined relationship I've ever had, but I think it definitely falls into girlfriend category.
But I have feelings for her, yes.
And what's her story? Does she have a husband or a partner as well? Is she a single woman?
I met her when she was separated but not yet divorced. She got divorced last summer. And she had a partner, but he's married. And he's not ethically non-monogamous. I don't know what they're cheating. He's cheating. Yeah, that's the right word.
I was like, what is that word? So he's cheating on his wife with her. She's actually with him right now.
on a business trip. And I don't, I mean, I played with him. I like him. My partner likes him.
But I, I don't really know how I feel about the whole cheating thing, truthfully. I don't really
love it. My first husband cheated on me. And that felt like a really bad thing. And so I try not to
play with him because I just feel like he's getting its take and eating it too.
Yeah, totally. But I love how you roll with her because I have heard from unicorns.
and I never really thought about it.
But you do have to tend to that relationship, right?
A lot of couples go out.
They look for a unicorn.
They just want some girl to fuck.
And they just don't sort of take it into consideration.
But like you really nurture that relationship.
Like you say, you check in.
You make sure everything's okay and stuff.
Even though you have that primary relationship with your guy,
you do tend to your relationship with her, which I think is important.
Yeah, we do.
We are friends at the core.
And we really like each other.
Like I picked her up at the airport.
She was with her kids in Europe
And I picked her up at the airport
And she had free water for the kids
And took them home
And I just I take care of her
I think we're more than friends for sure
And now when it comes to men
And I was going to ask you for women too
What is your type?
Like when you're looking for these guys
Or do they find you typically
Are you open for the people that you have sessions
Or like when you're doing the hot wiping
And you're like gonna have sucks with you know the men
What is your type
And what do you look for?
So I'm very a little bit of a yolo kind of girl.
I mean, I don't really need to do any of this.
I just like to do it to have fun.
So when I travel, I think that's really fun to throw in a little pinky threesome type of scenario.
And when that happens, I will put it on FetLife.
I'll say, hey, I'm going to be in Barcelona.
This is what I want.
This is the vibe I'm looking for.
And I have a hundred people I have to sort through.
Wow.
And then I usually whittle it down to three to five show goes to my guy and set up a scene.
And it truthfully is a little bit of a luck of their draw in who's available and who can make it happen because these things are impossible to manifest.
Of course.
But speaking of Barcelona, I threw in a, we were there for a work trip for my fiancé.
So he had a conference or something he had to go to.
I had the whole day.
And I was just like, I want to be pampered.
I want to see every site.
I want to be taken out to the best restaurant.
And I just said exactly what I wanted and how I wanted to be treated.
And somebody showed up.
And I had the best day.
It was so much fun.
We had a lot of sex in the evening with my fiancé there.
And it was, but it was a full day of pampering.
And I love that stuff.
on the daily, I don't do that kind of stuff.
The couple that we hung out with last weekend,
we met them on field.
And we have treated them kind of like a dating partner
where we went on a couple of dates.
Nothing really happened.
Maybe it kissed at the end of the night.
But then they had us over to their house and they cooked.
And we set up,
I set up a little like massage area for us
and brought sarong so everyone can kind of change
and get comfortable.
And then we did end up having a really fun sexual night.
But again, we kind of treated that like a little bit of a ghost flow, get to know each other.
Because ultimately, we really want to hang out with people, like travel with people, go on vacations, rent houses, go school with like life-minded people who we can also be frisky with.
Yeah, that makes sense.
That makes for the best vacation, right?
And so obviously, because you did say, like, oh, if I see these guys, I put it on, a couple people email me.
I run them by my guy.
I mean, do you guys have the same taste in dudes?
I think I, if I'm going to do something like the Barcelona thing,
I want someone a little bit sophisticated.
Uh-huh.
A little bit.
I'm not going to lie.
Just I'm going to go for some eye candy.
I mean, when else can I?
I mean, come on.
I go for a little bit of eye candy.
And so sometimes they're younger.
It doesn't have to be.
This was Europe.
So, gosh, everybody was gorgeous there.
The guy who was my three-sum on my birthday, he was short. He was shorter than, well, definitely shorter than my fiance and I'm not that tall. So he was petite, but he was great. He was a lot of fun. I think personality, energy, creativity, a little bit of like sophistication. I mean, this particular guy was Italian. So we spoke Italian together. That just made me so horny. I just love that.
Yeah. Speaking languages makes me so horny.
Yeah, no, I get that. I think it's really hard to find, just look at a picture and get, you know, know whether you're interested in or somebody or not, especially for women, because I feel like when a guy shows up or when you get to know them, you see so much more and it really changes how I feel about them. Right. I'm always like, say to my friends, if you watch like the real housewise, which I watch all the time, I'm like half those husbands, I'm like, oh, they're like hop, but I'm like, I think to myself, if I saw just a picture of them and didn't know them, I probably would never.
swipe on them. Do you know what I mean? Just looking at their faces if I saw it in a picture. But when you
get someone's vibe and they're walking and talking and the way they're dressed and the way they
carry themselves and their confidence, all that stuff sort of adds to somebody. So you never know.
Yeah. The guy in my birthday surprised me because he was bald. He wasn't tall. And he just was awesome.
I had loved every minute of it. Yeah. So there you go. So if you were like, oh, I would never go
with a short guy. You would have missed out.
Totally. I love that.
I try to keep an open mind about that.
I think at the heart, I'm a sapiensexual.
I just love, I love intellect.
I love creativity.
I love, again, what's between the ears.
And that, to me, is a huge turn on and a big driver.
But let me ask me this because I've been asking you, your type and everything.
And I know people are probably going to go to your fat life to check you out.
Do you want to send in anonymous picks from my Patreon?
I'm sure you have tons of them because you have a fat life when you send me something like
I have a time okay great sure what are you what are you looking for you know I always tell people
send me R rated but you know what what always happens is people send me X rated and that's why I started
my discord which is attached to my Patreon so my discord is like for X rated stuff and people could go on
there and you could go on my discord for free and I'll let you in for free and give you a link and you
could go on there when your episode airs and say hey you know I'm professional Lila and here's
and then you could post whatever you want on there and you could give you
your fat life and all that kind of good stuff. For me, what I, I don't deal with that stuff,
but that's why, like I said, I did my Discord so people can post that stuff there. Then I have over
2,500 people on there. But for my Patreon, I always say sexy picks, like rated R picks. A lot of
women send me like lingerie or bikini shots, just like sometimes I'll cover nipples if they're in,
but no pussy shots or anything like that. And I say that and then people send me them anyway.
So then I'll just post them on Discord when your episode airs. But, you know, they should be
anonymous, right? I make everybody anonymous on my show.
unless you're out and proud and you don't want, that's your choice.
But most likely I'm assuming you're anonymous, right?
But just some anonymous picks for my Patreon and send them sooner than later.
So I have them and know that I have them for when your episode airs.
And I just feel like you probably have a million more stories to tell.
And I had to get like all the details.
And so I just feel like maybe six months from now you come back on and you give a part two.
I don't know.
You just or come back on for like a fetish Friday episode where we just talk about fetishes and kink or something.
I don't know. I feel like that might be interesting. You might be good for a girl talk episode on that kind of stuff because I think guys like nothing more than to hear from a woman who is accepting of a lot of different fetishes and you are. And I feel like since you've engaged with so many men like that, you could probably do like an interesting episode on stuff like that. If you're down for it in the future. Yeah, I'd love that. Yeah, that's great. All right. So listen, what do we call you again? Layla, right?
Lela, yeah.
Like I said, I love your story.
I feel like there's so much more that I missed,
but this was a good background story to you.
We'll probably hear from you again on a Fetish Friday episode.
Give your shout out again on your Fet Life.
I'll put the Fet Life in the description.
It's professional Lela, right?
Professor.
Professor. I keep saying professional.
I'm so stupid.
Professor Lela, yes, I have that in the email, I think.
Okay, Professor Lela,
I'm going to put your Fet Life in the description.
So anyone driving listening right now that's dying to like go on to Fet Life.
and check you out and see if they're in your area.
I will put that in the description so people know and then send me those anonymous picks when you can.
You could either text them to this phone or you could email them to me, okay?
Okay, I'll just text you.
All right, awesome.
Thanks, Layla.
Thanks so much for calling you to sharing your story.
It was super interesting.
Oh, did you want to talk about your brand, your kinky brand that you started?
Oh, sure.
So in true spirit of my messy, wonderful life, I have even,
business that I've had for 23 years. I love it. But, you know, it's a marketing business and a branding
business. And I said, I really want to work with companies that are like me when I'm not in my
vanilla life. So I developed kinky brands, which is a brand and marketing company devoted to
the lifestyle brands that are out there. So flogger companies or dildo companies, any of these types of
sex positives, wares, finished gear, etc.
So I have a dedicated business now.
And I have my first client.
I'm so excited.
They're a porn producer and virtual headset kind of VR experience,
girlfriend experience for ladies who are a little bit on the larger side.
And they are really fun and cool.
So yeah, I have that.
And that's just a few months old.
But I already have my first client.
So I'm very excited.
That's exciting.
Kiki Brands.
If anyone has a kinky brand, it's kinky brands.co, right?
Dot co.
Yeah, love it.
I'm on it.
I see it.
Awesome, Leila.
I think that that's smart and it's like something that you love to do.
And then that doesn't even feel like work.
No, it doesn't feel like work at all.
Yeah, I love it.
Yeah, I love it.
Thanks so much for calling in, Leila.
That's great.
Get me those picks as soon as you can.
I will.
Be well.
Thanks for everything.
You're welcome.
Bye.
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That's 347-4-7-4-2-3-7579.
call that number 24-7. I change all the voices on the confessions too, so you remain anonymous.
The number, the website, and the email address will all be in the description.
If you want to follow the show, follow me at Strict Anonymous on either Instagram or Twitter.
That's at Strict Anonymous. And if you want to sign up for my Patreon, you're not only
supporting my show, but you're going to get all of these episodes early and ad-free.
You're going to get anonymous picks of all of my guests, most of the girls,
send me in anonymous hot picks of themselves, and some of the guys are sending me in anonymous
picks as well. You also get access to my private discord where people are getting super naughty.
If you sign up for my Discord, you could post whatever you want and talk to my other listeners.
To sign up for my Patreon, just go to patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast.
That's patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast.
The links and everything else I spoke about are all in the description.
Thanks so much for listening.
Thank you.
