Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 942 - Dee Dee Cheated on her Husband and Now They're in an Open Marriage

Episode Date: October 15, 2024

Dee Dee Cheated on her husband and now they’re in an open marriage and she called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including when and why she started cheating on her husband, the first guy he cheated on him with and where she met him, the second guy she cheated with and exactly what went down between them, how and why all the cheating gave her confidence, the guy into BDSM she met on Fetlife and what went down with him, how he got her to squirt and why she stopped seeing him, how her daughter found out she was cheating, why she wound up telling her husband and how he reacted, how and why they decided to stay together and work through it, how they both decided to allow each other to sleep with other people, how their open marriage is now set up, how and why her cheating wound up to be best thing that ever happened to them plus a whole lot more. **To see pics of DEE DEE plus see anonymous pics of my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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telling her husband, she talks about why she told him. And then she explains how he reacted. I mean, they are currently both now sleeping with other people and they're still together, but how they got from, you know, their vanilla life and marriage that was not good at all to. her cheating to them now playing solo, him with other women, her with other guys, both on the up and up, how they got through all of it to where they are now is so fucking fascinating. You have to listen to this story. You're going to learn so much, I think, about cheating. And you're also going to be inspired, I think, by her story and how she got through it

and got to the point where she is at with her husband. Now she's on FetLife. I'm going to put her name on there. She wanted to give a shout out to it because she's down and horny. I also have picks of her over on my Patreon anonymous picks. But like I said, you're going to love this story. It was so super interesting to me, so many different twists. So I'm going to be right back on with Didi.

Hi, Dedy. Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? I'm doing so good. Thanks for having me. No, thanks for using the name D.D. I was like, hey, I've never had on a D.D. And you were like, what did you say after I said that?

You're like, why you choose that name? Well, as I thought about what name I wanted to be called, I thought I should just be called. Didi because I have double D's. Oh my God. I love it. Dedy with the double D's. How has nobody else thought of that before? I have like 880 episodes. I know. Because I'm smart that way. Yeah. And you're also slutty now. And you went from being like totally vanilla for like your whole life to being totally not vanilla. I love those kinds of stories. So let's like take it back a little bit, Dedy. Let me first, let me just ask you now, like where you're at right now. Like are you married? Are you married?

married in a relationship or are you single? I am married. We just celebrated 30 years a couple weeks ago. Oh, okay. So you're married 30 years and you and your husband were always vanilla? Correct. Yep. Okay.

And so how many years into it did things change and then tell me why and how and all that kind of good stuff? Oh, my goodness. How many years into marriage? It happened a couple years ago. It'll be two years ago in December. I have, can I start with my backstory? Yeah, I love it, of course.

Yeah, I love that. So my husband and I, we've known each other since kindergarten, and we did not start dating until the end of our senior year. We dated for five years and we got married. I was 22. He was 23. We had our first baby at 25. We were done having babies at 30.

But along the way, I pretty much lost myself. And he started to take me for granted. and, you know, slowly we drifted away. We just, it just happens. And you have kids and you give everything you have to the kids and you give everything you have to him. And I just, we just grew apart. And as my last child was getting ready to graduate high school, I decided I need to start taking care of myself, something that I haven't done my whole life, really. Yeah.

And I transformed myself. I've always been into exercise, but I really started. started to focus on it and I started to focus on my diet and I lost 60 pounds. Isn't that a miracle? Like, look, all you have to do is like not eat so much garbage and work out. I mean, it's not that hard. It's funny. It's funny.

People want to know the secret and it's like, no, you really don't want to know. There isn't a secret. Yeah. Do the hard work. Yeah, it's been out there. The secret's out there, but nobody wants to fucking listen. A lot of people will be like, oh, I'm just going to work out so I can eat whatever I want.

I'm like, no, it doesn't go that way, especially now when you're older. You can't eat either, okay? And work, and you have to work out. Right. So I just slowly started to put the time into myself, and I started to, you know, I could see the changes. And I didn't realize other people were also seeing the changes. And I want, you know, I stop every day. I have, I don't know, I have some bad habits.

I drink Diet Pepsi every day. So I stop at the gas station to get a Diet Pepsi. And I, you know, I stopped at the same place every day. It's kind of like a Cheers bar. to know you, you get to know them. So I had seen this guy before that he worked there, but he was like standing in line when I went to check out. And he was engaging me at the time we were standing in line, but with just his eyes.

And I'm like super extroverted. So I was like, hey, how are you doing? And he's like, you know, I'm great. How are you? So we start this little chat while we're standing in line waiting to check out. He had just come off the night shift. So I was just going to work. I'm self-employed.

So I don't have to punch the clock. And so as we, you know, both check out, he's like, hey, I get this new car. Come out. Come out and check it out. And it's not a new car. It was like a $300 Volkswagen, but it was new to him. Okay. And I was like super, I thought he was super cute, right?

He was way younger than me. I mean, at the time I was 51, I think. And so I go out and we're talking about his car and he's like, I got this gas smell in the car. And I don't know. And he's like, would you smell it for me? I'm like, you just want to look at my ass. asshole. Like you want me to bend in the door and... Are you saying this to him? Are you just thinking No. No, I'm just thinking. Okay. Okay. Okay. Because he's kind of got balls. I was like you got balls too,

but he's kind of got balls. He's like he's a young guy like making a play for an older woman. For sure. Yep. Yes. Yep. And so whatever. We, we, whatever, we have our little chat and he gets in his $300 Volkswagen and I get in my little Buick and we head off to our places. You know, I go to work. He goes home. The next day I stop in to get my pop and he's behind the counter. He's still working and he should be off because, you know, night shift is over and I check out with him and he's complaining about how the person that was supposed to show up for, you know, to replace him had overslept and wasn't there. It is wintertime where I'm at.

It is blustery blizzarding out. He wasn't able to drive his $300 Volkswagen to work because someone blocked him in. So he's complaining about how he wants to go home. He doesn't have a ride. And I'm just a nice person. 100%. I'm like, if you can go right now, I will give you a ride home. With absolutely maybe no intentions.

Maybe subconsciously there was some intentions. Yeah, maybe. Right. And so he looks at the manager and they both give each other like these googly eyes. And I was like, okay, whatever. I said, I'll be out in my car. If you want a ride, come out. Come out and I'll be waiting for you.

So he comes out with this huge. grin on his face and he's just happy as can be and we tutel off on our way to his place. And, you know, I pull up to his place and I think he's just going to say thank you and get out and, you know, go on his way and I go on my way. But however, he just continues to sit there and talk and we just talk and talk and, you know, and now we're into it, we're still talking. And, you know, pretty soon he's like, you are so easy to talk to. I'm like, I know I am.

I mean, everyone tells me that. And he's like, you know, you're like so fucking hot. I just looked at him because I have not heard these words. Yeah, this is what I'm saying. Like, guys don't understand like these little things that he's saying that might not even sound that hot. I mean, well, when he said, you're so fucking hot, that's hot. But like when he said, you're so easy to talk to for a woman that has been starved for any kind of attention from a husband. Like a lot of women are, right?

You know, that happens. Yeah. that kind of thing is like powerful. Everything. It's everything. It is. It was everything. I wanted to be seen.

I wanted to be heard. I wanted to be noticed for how, what I've changed about myself, like all of that stuff. Yeah. And my husband was taking me for granted, you know? Yeah. So as we're sitting there, yes.

As we're sitting there, you know, he's saying this kind of stuff to me. And he says, we have a connection. And I've not never once. That is a freaking trigger word for me. know because connection is like, oh, we, well, wow, yeah, I guess we do. You know, you pointed out something I didn't even like put together, you know. Oh, my God.

This guy's got game. I got to tell you. I'm just glad I came in contact with him. Is he hot? For me, he was. He was mixed. Okay. And I'm like super attracted to dark skin guys.

And I always have been. Like, I remember back when I was in high school, I was in a school where. we had no, it was all white people, but I was always attracted to darker skin people when I saw them. So it's not something, it wasn't something new. He is your type. Okay, so he says that now do you go in his house? He says, he says to me, would you mind if I kissed you? And I was just, I'm like, sitting there going, oh my fucking God, what? And in my brain, I think at that point, I said, you know, I'm married. And he's like, I understand. He's like, it's your choice. And I say, and I sat there with a devil on one shoulder and an angel on the other.

And I, I just felt like it was 10 minutes of me sitting there going, what the fuck do I do? Oh my God. I want to fucking kiss this guy. I want to fuck this guy. But let's just like stop at that moment right now because it's such a pivotal moment, right, that some people are going to find themselves in and it's crazy because you are,

I'm assuming, an extremely monogamous person up into this point. Your whole effing life. That's right. to your, not even your high school sweetheart, your elementary school sweetheart, okay? Never straight, never thought about it. And here you are with this opportunity.

And you're contemplating it, which goes to show, because a lot of people think, oh, once a cheater, always a cheater, or they just think cheaters are like born that way or something. I don't know. But like, you know, you're not someone that would ever cheat. And here you are being propositioned for it. And you're thinking to go for it.

Crazy. You're not someone. one that would ever be. And here you are being propositioned for it. And you're thinking to go for it. Crazy. It is. And as unhappy as I was in my marriage, I still knew that it wasn't the right thing to do. Of course. And let me just say, let me just put this out there. I had never fucked anybody other than my husband. Not only was I monogamous, but I've never fucked anyone else in my life. So. Yeah, crazy. So this is, I'm like, yep. Okay. finally I'm like, yeah, you can kiss me. Well, we kiss.

Oh, my God. Crazy. I was just like, oh, oh, my God. Every nerve ending in my body just went fucking wild. I mean, my pussy was wet. I was like, oh, my God. I want to fuck this guy. So he's like, do you want to come in?

And I'm like, yeah, I really shunt. But, okay, let's do this. Yeah, let's do this. So we get in his house. he leads me into his house and it's a fucking dive. I'm like, oh, God, this is the first time I have done anything like this. I walk in and, you know, he's got to shove shit out of his freaking pathway. I mean, he's a young kid, right?

Yeah, I mean, he was 30. He ended up telling me he was 35. Okay. But he's living like a young kid of all his shit all over the house. Yeah, he's a batch. He's living in the batch pad, you know. So, and picking up chicks at the gas station. So, anyway, we flock. And I, that was like the, the angel that was on my shoulder out in the car, the light shone down.

Like I was like, I felt like my life had just, everything in my life just changed that day. Like I knew that the life that I had been leading was good for a while, but it isn't what I wanted it to be anymore. Like everything in me changed. Like the confidence that he gave me that day, the sex, as I think, back to it. It was, it wasn't the sex. It was everything that he said to me and everything that he made me feel in that moment. Just what you said earlier in the show, like us women, we, we are deprived of that or we are, you know, maybe don't get what we want. And then somebody gives that to you. And it's ever, it was everything I ever wanted. And let me tell you, it's not just women. I talk to a lot of

male cheaters too, because I think men get a worse rap when it comes to cheating. And sometimes women, do get a worse rap too for other reasons, but the rap men get is like, oh, they're just like pigs. And yes, some people are cheating because they're just fucking pigs. But a lot of men are cheating for the same exact reason you are. Right. And their intimacy is different. Like, you know, you'd have to say different things to get the married monogamous guy in bed. You don't want to necessarily say, wow, you're so easy to talk to. You might want to say, oh, your cock looks so big. Like that is more like what they're looking for, but they don't get what they want either. And that's the reason why they cheated. Same shit. Yeah. And if people would look into it, there is more to it than just

fucking someone. No, it's more than that. Like what you're saying is so powerful. And I love having cheaters on my show for this exact reason because people could really get in the head of their partner that just cheated and really see the real reasons. I know that everyone wants to make it out to just seem like all cheaters are fucking assholes. But listen to the real story. Listen to what you just said and how that guy made you feel and how it wasn't even about the sex. and I just aired an episode with the guy that was a cheater. And he was like, you know, a philandrum, a philandrum, this and that. But when you really got down to it, he was somebody that was lacking intimacy in his life, too.

No different than you, you know. And he was getting his needs met that he wasn't getting at home with other people. Same thing like with you. So it happens all the time. And people need to be, understand that so that, you know, if they don't want that to happen in their relationship, tend to that shit beforehand. But you are like given this like, crazy opportunity. So after that experience, it was like that day, you realize, like, all that stuff,

like, oh, my God, like, I can never go back. I just, it was, I've always wanted to be a slut. I just, in high school, I wanted to be a slut. And all my friends were sluts, but I didn't, I wasn't cute and I didn't have the confidence. And I didn't, I just, there was not a high selection. Our school was little. Like, and then I started dating my husband. So, you know, I never had the opportunity to ever be a slut. So when this guy hit me up and I was given the opportunity to live out something, which was actually my fantasy, right? I took it and then I just, I've never looked back. I mean, I ended up a couple weeks after this guy at the gas station, I was at a, I was at a hardware store. Oh my God, the list. I can't wait for your stories. I ain't go on.

I was at this hardware store. I was visiting my 24-year-old son. We had just had a big snowstorm. There was like 16 inches of snow on the ground, and he was out snow blowing the business sidewalk, and I stopped over to talk to him. And while we were standing outside talking, because it was beautiful out that day, the storm was over. I saw this guy down the way. He was in his pickup, and he was eating lunch. It appeared to me he was eating a piece of pizza or something. and he was watching us and I would see him get out of his pickup and he would go over to the garbage and he'd throw it but the whole time he's like looking our way and I'm like do I know this guy like who is this dude so anyway my son's got to go back to work I go to get in my car he backs out a little bit before we

start to depart my son and I and I'm getting in my car and he stops behind my car and he gets out to like shut his um toolbox in the back of his pickup and I just I engaged him. I said, hey, are you a handyman? And he said, I am. And I said, is there any way I could get your card? Even though my husband's handier than any fucking guy I'll ever find. This guy, this was me having a little confidence. And I asked him for a card. And he's like, he walks up to me. And now just remember, my son is out snowblowing. So he's in the vicinity. He walks up to me and he says, you are a fucking goddess. Can I kiss you? Oh, my God. You were. You were. were like reeking of I want to fucking cheat on my husband with somebody.

The fair ones were like, oh my God. Yeah, it's what you were putting out. You were putting out on a veil and down to fuck. Sorry. I guess. It's wild to me. And I just, again, was taken aback by his words, a fucking goddess. I have never looked at myself as a fucking goddess.

So anyway, I said, no, you cannot kiss me. That's my son. He's like, oh, I thought that was your boyfriend. And they said, he's 24. I said, do you know how old I am? He's like, I don't fucking care how old you are. You're amazing. Like, you have the best body and you're, I just, I was like, what is happening in my world right now?

So, you know, fucking met him the next day. Fucked him. This is all, you know, just a couple weeks after the gas station guy. Find out that this guy is 32. Right. So we're moving, we're moving younger now. trending younger and um so i go fuck him and he was a lot rougher than the first guy and i loved it was like oh my god and so you know he he continues you know we continue for probably six weeks or

something like he gets a hold of me and and actually my my parents have a place in town here but they never use it that kind of became my little play station play area like i started taking guys there because no one was there. And so we started meeting guys guys. Guys. So there's going to be more guys coming into this story. You just said I started bringing more guys back there. There's I can't in what in 18 months. I can't tell you how many guys I fucked. Wow. I love you. You do this is going to be a good story. I mean, you know. And I don't feel like we're going to have enough time to cover it all. But you know, there's there's many guys. Yeah, I've I've had many guys. And let me ask you a question and then you're going to just continue rolling okay because you know you have so

many people to get to um while you're doing all this and because it's such a massive shift that these guys are sensing right like they could like you like we're saying like they could fucking smell it on you like did your husband notice anything well he has been oblivious for years right like he he knows that something's not right but he our community communication never evolved from when we were in high school, right? Like, we did not evolve as a, as a normal people that know how to communicate. I, I went all the years of our marriage being so horny, but I was too shameful to ask for sex. Yeah. I'm sure a lot of women could relate to that. I had, I had never initiated sex in my life. And I, I never was confident enough to, I was so horny in our marriage. I, I remember, I'd fall asleep and I'd be dripping wet and I would not initiate sex from him. Wow. And he couldn't fucking read the, feel

the pheromones or, you know, like he, I'm laying right beside him. And, you know, I'm not, I'm not going to blame him because he's a very good person. Right. You know? He's a very good person. He's taking good care of me. He just got used to taking me for granted.

And not only that, but you also have to take accountability for the fact that, like, you know, what kind of person are you that you're like sitting there dripping wet and you have no voice? to speak up for yourself. You know, that you have to take on for yourself too. And that's another thing that I think are put on women. I think women are much more outspoken nowadays and they do talk more.

But, you know, back in our day, most women can never raise their hand and say one fucking thing for themselves because, you know, you'd wind up like me. And a lot of people didn't like me because I wasn't like that because I would speak up. But you couldn't as a woman. That's another thing. So women had zero voice. Like you would just like sit there and not even speak up for yourself. Right. And so you can feel the shift in me when guys are starting to notice me. I mean, I had seen guys double look, you know, when I'd be walking. I was like, wow, maybe I am something to look at. You know, maybe there is something that I'm missing here, you know, after my transformation of 60 pounds and exercising and all of that. But my husband's not noticing me, you know? It's so fucking confusing. And I know that he noticed me because he would say, he would say like, oh, wow.

you're looking good, but there would never be any follow-up. And it was all because we couldn't communicate that we were both unhappy. And, you know, there's just, it's such a slow decline. Like, you know, over 30 years, it just doesn't take much. It's a slow decline in the way that just a little out of time, you just start to let go of each other. And that's exactly what happened. And so anyway, we move on.

I, you know, this guy, I would have been happy with Hardware Guy if he, he would have just kept getting a hold of me. But these fuckers, they all fizzle out. You know, I don't know. It's like, come on. What the hell? Why aren't you calling me anymore? So then I started looking elsewhere.

I'm like, where do I find guys? Where do I find these guys? You know? I mean, they found me the first couple. So then I heard about this. I don't know where I saw it. I still can't remember if I saw it online, but I saw this,

about this page named Fat Life. And I was like, well, I'll give that a shot. Like, so I get on there and, put my i don't know i put my uh they want you know a screen name or whatever so i put in sweet and it auto corrected to sweet cream pie oh my god hilarious i'm like you're fucking right i'm using that name i didn't come up with it but i'm going to use it so i put that in and my first guy that contacts me the first one out of the gate is a guy that wants me to shit on him well i fuck him oh my god And I'm like, yeah, I don't think this isn't what this isn't what I'm looking for.

I'm looking for some hot sex, but I'm not going to shit on someone. So anyway, I moved on. Like I got, oh, I was bombarded. I thought no one would notice me. I didn't think anyone would ever message me, look at my picture. Like I didn't, you know, any of that. Oh, my God, the messages start rolling in. I can't keep up.

I mean, I got offers coming in left and right. I'm like, what in the hell? So all of this is building my confidence, right? I'm living a double life now because my husband has no idea. And it's crazy that he had no idea because you've got to be like riding like in a different way with a different energy. Like this is where I think a woman would pick up more than a man. I don't get it. I mean, how checked out is he that he doesn't get the fact that you're being nailed and railed and you're having.

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and important safety information. And I thank Bluechoo for sponsoring the podcast. Oh, I think you are so onto something. What you just said, you are so on to something. So I move on with BetLife and I meet this guy. And he messages me and he's, you know, older than the other guys. he's like 56 or something like that. And we start talking and he's just a little bit more of a fast mover and he's like,

well, can we meet? I think he, he messaged me maybe on a Monday and I was meeting him in a parking lot on Tuesday evening. Right. And that was a little bit quicker than I had been with the other guys. But I, you know, we met in a parking lot and I remember he backed into the parking lot and I was pulled in straight. So when he backed in, we were like right side by side, you know, and we looked at each other and I could feel the fucking electricity between the windows.

I mean, between our cars. Like I, it was freaking crazy. The connection, like before we even got out of each other, I got out of my car and went over to his pickup and got in. And the electricity was out of this world. Oh, my God. And I would have never in a million years picked him out as someone I would be attracted to. which is wild to me because I feel like you have to have that basic attraction to someone to move forward. I instantly had the attraction just from the energy that he was putting out.

And so I get in and we just, he never touched me, but I had my, I was kind of sitting at it. He was sitting in his seat and I was sitting forward in the passenger seat and there was a console in between. So he, I was sitting diagonal to him. I put myself up so we could eye contact, you know, just diagonal. And I had my, kind of had my knee up on the council. And he was, I could see him just like gripping his jeans. Like he wanted to reach over. I had jeans on that had holes in him.

He wanted to put his hand over on my leg so bad, but he did not. And we never, we never kissed. We never, you know, we just, we talked for like an hour and a half. And we both went home. And before I even got home, I had a message from him. And he's like, I've been in this lifestyle for over 30. plus years. He said, I have never had a meetup like this one, which is he telling me the truth? Is he just, you know, laying me a line of shit? I don't know. I get that a lot from people.

I can connect with people very easily. So it's like, it's not unheard of that people tell me that. But when you're ready to have sex with someone and they tell you that, again, is what I want to hear. So I, you know, plan to meet him a couple days later. I go over to his place. I was like hungry. so I brought some tacos over. I sit on his couch. We're sitting on the couch. You know, he's got his hand. He's like, I'm not going to be able to keep my hands off of you.

Like, I had a hard enough time doing that while we were meeting. He's like, I will not be able to keep my hands off of you. And I'm like, that's all right. I'm cool with that, you know. So eat our tacos and we're laying on the couch together. And he's got his hands all over me. And he's like, are you ready to go to the bedroom? And I, oh, fuck, yeah.

I'm ready to go to the bedroom. That's what I'm here. So we head into the bedroom and his big thing is like have you ever squirt before and I don't know I know I've never squirt before I never don't really know anything about it you know like I have been vanilla sex and for 35 years I don't know anything about squirt and so we get in there and we're just you know he is he is dominant man and I don't know anything about dominant other than I'm been the dominant one in my marriage and I don't I didn't know but you kind of like that right because that's like another rough guy are you fucking kidding me that's what I've been looking for my whole life oh my

god I fucking wanted someone to dominate me but I never knew it I never knew it until I met this guy and he fucking took over and he was slow moving right like it wasn't he didn't as our story goes on I mean we've moved into restraints we've moved into all kinds of kinds of BDSM stuff. But in the first day, he was, you know, he's like, I need you to know your safe words, you know, like, and I don't know anything about that. I've never needed a safe word. You know, it's always been gentle. What's there to be safe about? Yeah. So, you know, we went over all of that. And pretty soon he's, you know, got his hand inside me. And he's like trying, he's working my G spot, which I don't know anything about this either. And he's like,

let it go. And I'm like, what? I can't let go. Like, I'm going to pee all over, you know. And that is what I have felt in my marriage for 30 years, but I never would release it because I thought it was pee, right? Like I thought I was going to pee, so I always was uncomfortable. So you were always on the verge of almost squirting. All those squirts he missed. Yes. Yes.

But he was in there battling my G spot while I was battling him. Yeah. And he's like, let it fucking go. And I'm like, no, I'm not. And he's like, I'm going to fucking win. And he fucking won. His hand was definitely more power than my G-spot or my willpower, whatever. So, you know, that was the first day I ever scored in my life.

And whatever, you know, the months go by. Like he, not months, I shouldn't say that because we need to move into the next stage of what happens here. My daughter is my youngest child. And she moved to the dorms the day that I met the hardware guy. And I was sad that she left because she was like my, She was basically my spouse, you know, like we had this close, close relationship. And she and I were so in tune with each other. And when she left to move into the dorms, she knew that I wasn't happy.

And I was on her radar. And I was on Snapchat with her and I forgot to take my location off. And she knew that I was up to no good. When you said that females will pick up on it quicker than guys. Yeah, yeah. My daughter's the one that figured it out. Oh, she was the one in the family. So what does she say to you?

So I'm going over to see, what should I call him, Mr. BDSM guy, and she's calling me. Well, I'm there. And he would always, you know, I would answer the phone. And I was like, she fucking knows. He's like, I think you're just overreacting. I'm like, no, I am not. I know she knows. I can feel it.

Women feel that shit, right? Like, I mean, I could feel that she knew. And so, whatever. I continue to see a lot of him. Like, he is making, he's taking time off of work. I'm moving my schedule around. We're making time for each other. And we're having, I'm having the best sex of my life.

Like, this guy's dominating me. I love it. I mean, he's putting me in handcuffs. He's blindfolding me. Just, I mean, he uses a speculum on me. Oh, my God. You like that? I liked everything he did to me.

Wow. I liked it all. Is that bad? No, I mean, I've seen that kind of porn out there, and I'm always like, oh, I can't even look at it. Like, just a little picture freaks me out, but I'm like, obviously, people are into this. I didn't know. I mean, no one's ever done this to me. And, I mean, there's things that he maybe has done that I wasn't, like, super thrilled about,

but I really did enjoy most of it for the most part. And there was always my safe word, you know, that I could use if I needed to. So I knew that I had an hour. But I always, and I always wanted, I'm a person that like, why we should always experience something once before we say no to it. Like if it's within my control and my consent, I want to try something. And then if I don't like it, I don't have to do it again. So anyway, my daughter, she's now on to me and I know she's on to me. And I'm going to get together with Mr. BDSM and he changes the plans.

And I question his plans. and he goes off the fucking rails on me. Mm-hmm. He, I, I had to walk. I was just taken aback. Like, all I did was said something like, well, are you sure that's what you have to do? Because I think you said you had to do that last week or something. And he lost his shit.

He was calling me. He was leaving me freaking crazy-ass messages. I mean, I was trying to block him as fast as I could, but he beat me to everything that we were, you know, communicating on. And I was, like, scared out of my mind. I was like, he had dropped me off one night after the bar. So he knew where I lived, which is a bad idea. And I just had this feeling like he's going to come to my house and he's going to tell my husband, right?

Yeah, that kind of shit is scary. I mean, you know. Yeah, because he's acting fucking crazy. Yeah. Like, this isn't just like you pissed me off. This is like I'm out of my fucking mind and I might come over. We're going to kill you. So I, at that point, I'm like, fuck, I got to go tell my husband. Like, if he comes over here, my daughter's now home from college. It's, you know, like,

it's, I can't, I can't do this. So I, I went and found my husband. And I told him, I said, I got to tell you something. And, you know, I started crying. And I told him what happened. And, um, he looked down. What did you tell him? Like, what was your conversation? Like, What did you say? I said, I've been cheating on you, and I am so sorry. He looked down at the ground for a split second, and he looked into my eyes, and he said, I'm so sorry that I have failed you. He said, I haven't been there for you like I should have been.

And he said, and I don't blame you one bit for what you've done. And he just gave me a big hug, and he said, we're going to work this out. It's all going to be okay. Wow. But can I just go back again and say, for the first 15 years of our marriage, I walked on a, no, first 25 years of our marriage, I walked on eggshells around him, my husband, because his mood would change so fast and I never knew what was going to set him off. Okay. So I begged him and begged him to go on medication to stabilize his mood. Oh, so he's on meds now?

Is that what he? Yes, and he changed. It changed everything. Like he didn't even care that you cheated. my God, I want that medication. Dude, he's like all rainbows and unicorns now. Like, it's like, are you fucking kidding me? Like, if you would have, I backed him for probably 15 years to get on medication and he would

not do it. He thought I was like, I don't know if he thought I was trying to kill him. Like, I don't know, but I was like, please, I need you. And then at some point, that was part of me letting go with him because he was so unpredictable. And it was, I just got sick of trying all the time, you know? Yeah. And so when he got on medication, then he. he's happy and then I'm pissed because we could have lived this whole life this way, right?

Like if he would have just listened. Yeah, yeah, I got it. Yeah. Yeah, you're like, oh, fuck, if only I spoke up, if only I would have been more honest, right? That's how it is, right? And I totally understand that. And the thing is, is like, I did speak up and say, can we fix your emotional problem that's causing me a lot of stress?

And he refused to help himself with that. And I tried and tried. and yes, I, yes, I have accountability. I am not. I'm not here to say that what I've done is right. Or I did not take the right path. None of that. But it has changed both of our worlds.

And it's been a positive thing. I think it's, it's, and he even says that. Like, our marriage wouldn't have survived this if, if you hadn't done what you've done. Wow. I just got the chills. I love that. I think that that's, that's super interesting. And I bet you there's other people that have gone through this exact thing.

would say the same thing and I've heard it before. You know, you sort of like, you were the one that did it, but somebody had to, right? And you sort of like blew up the facade of this bullshit thing that was going on. And both of you were to blame, you know? And I love that he obviously took accountability

for his part or else he wouldn't have been able to be okay with it and say let's work on it. He wasn't like just blaming you, you're a fucking asshole, right? And same thing with you too. And so you blew it off. up and you rebuilt it to be something 10 times better. Like, that's amazing.

That is correct. That's amazing. And I feel like I'm, do you know what I would give to be able to call into a show where I don't have to be anonymous to tell this story and not be judged? You don't have to be anonymous. You could be unanonymous. You don't need to be anonymous. I just offer that to people.

I understand. But the thing is, is I know that there are people out there that judge other people for this. No, you know what the, I'm going to tell you those people. No, but those people aren't listening to my show, okay? Those people are reading a headline and, moving on. Okay.

People that actually take their time to listen to the stories, those aren't those people. Okay. I know plenty of people. They're my friends or my cousins or in my family. Okay, they read a fucking headline and they make a judgment and that's all that they do. They're lazy thinkers, lazy analyzers, just lazy across the board. They don't care to know the real information. The people that listen to my show are people that are like me.

They're interested in knowing all the details. They want, you know, it's, and when you hear all the details, how can you judge you? You know? Right. I believe that life is supposed to be. messy. I believe we are supposed to make mistakes. I believe like the most horrible times that have happened to you do lead to better things. And that is what life's supposed to be like about. And when you have these things, it doesn't make you bad or wrong or flawed. It makes you human. And it's,

and it's an amazing thing. And if you look at real biographies of real people, everyone goes through ups and downs. Like, that's what life is supposed to be about. All these people sitting in their glass houses acting as if everything has to be perfect and no one makes mistakes and anyone that cheats or anything is the fucking asshole they don't know that they're not going to wind up in a gas station one day fucking the guy there too because you would have probably never guessed that you were going to do that would you have ever ever no never right no no no I would have never and I'm not that kind of a person I'm not a hurtful person I'm not any I wouldn't want to hurt I when I go up for walks I avoid ants on the side block I don't want to hurt anything

But yet you cheated. Both things could exist in the same person. People can't wrap their fucking heads around that. And that's lazy thinking to me. Can I tell you what my therapist calls that? Radical acceptance. When you can have one side of your life that's, you know, is sad and another side is happy. And you have to choose yourself.

And you have to choose to be happy. Like that's your choice. And there's a name for that, radical acceptance. Right. Knowing that there can be some bad things in your life, but there's also good and you get to choose which path you're going to take. Right. And listen, I'm sure the day, though, that you were, like, having to tell him and that moment

wasn't, like, the good part. That was the hard part. But you chose to, like, sort of take from that situation and make the best of it. And sometimes that's what happens. And people can be better. I always give people credit. I get why some people leave after, like, you know, unfaithfulness and some people can't handle it or some people will never gain back the trust and they leave.

But I also, though, for people that have stayed through, right, when they found out, I give them massive credit because a lot of times it's this kind of situation. Why are you going to take a relationship that you had with somebody for 30 years? Right. The father of your children or the mother of your children and all this pass that you have for one, six months of something. Right. And to take away all of that and throw it in the fucking shitter for that. Like you don't have to. And there's plenty of people like you.

You're here to say that like not only did you not throw it in the shitter because of that. You guys like work through and you're better than you were before, which is amazing. And it is amazing. And my husband says it all the time. He's like I, as much as he hates Mr. BDSM, he also. It's like, I want to send him flowers. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if we go that far.

But, you know, he's like, there's a reason why this all worked out. the way it did in the past that we had to take had to include him and his craziness obviously and it's just turning what do you say uh lemons into lemonade right like it wasn't a great situation but we decided to make it work no but you know what it was it was like it wasn't dished out properly but it was like the truth of your situation you know somebody like i said like you blew that shit up like you took this nonsense that you guys were living in which was like a phony relationship and both of you were roommates, obviously, right?

And you just blew it the fuck up and brought all the bad shit to the service. So now you could deal with it. So, you know, at the end of the day, you look back and you're like, wow, that was the best thing that could have happened. And a lot of times, really bad times, like when you reflect back, they're that same thing. It's like the best thing that could have happened. It's the period of growth. Yeah, of course. You either get to choose to grow or you'd choose to go back into the hole that you just came out of. And I, and we both chose to

grow at that point. Yeah, I give him credit. He was, oh my God, he is amazing. He's amazing. Like, a lot of people would say, fuck you and move on and say, you fucked up and I don't want you. But he, he was like, no, we're going to make this work. I did not. We have spent 35 years as a couple together. We're not giving yourself. And just for that. Yeah, exactly. And he, also said, I understand why you did it. Yes. He understood. Yes. Yeah, I love that. So talk about a compassion, compassionate. I mean, he was empathetic to me. There's been so many things that have happened in my life that I have never had, I haven't had a voice. And that might be the reason why I haven't been able to speak up, you know? And he's like, you've been failed so many times in your life. And

he said, I have failed you. Yeah. But I'm done failing you. And you were done failing you, though, too. Okay. that's what had to happen first. You had to step up and say, you know what? I'm sick of having no voice. I'm sick of not taking care of myself. I'm sick of, you know what I mean? It was the biggest change in you that really was like, I think, the most powerful thing that changed everything.

But what I love is that your husband was right there with you, ready to change at the same time too. And that's all that it fucking takes. You know what I mean? Is really, and you're lucky that he was willing to do that because a massive shift had changed in your life. If he wasn't there and he wasn't evolving along with you and didn't want to, he would have been left in the dust. And you see that happen a lot in relationships.

And everyone will think, oh, the person that leaves is the terrible one. I'm like, no, that person that leaves a lot of time is the more enlightened one. They're the ones that are like, this relationship sucks. And I no longer am happy being in a sucky relationship. And the person that wants to keep it and is holding on, they're still unevolved. I don't. And, you know, and a lot of people will look at the one leaving, like they're the bad one. It's like, no, they're actually the smart one.

And it's sad that they had to blow it up. Yeah, I get that. But, you know, people grow and change and people grow and change for the better. And if that other person isn't right there with you, sometimes they do get left in the dust. That's what happens. But it's not wrong. You would have left your husband. But what's great is he was like, yeah.

What's great is that he was right there with you. Like, let's fucking change things up. Let's become better. Let's be better together. And what he said to me is he's like, I know, I know that this can't change. just today. Like I can't snap my fingers and it's going to be better. But he said, I'm going to put the effort in every day. I'm going to put the effort in to make you fall in love with me again. Like, this is going to be a journey and we're going to be on it together. And, you know, I told

him right after, when I first, when I first come out with it, I, you know, I told him, I said, I can't go back. I can't go back. I need more experiences in my life. I had lost my mom just a couple months before this was during all of this stuff going on too before he knew. Wow. And after I lost my mom, I was like, I got to live my life. Yeah. Like I got to quit living my life for everyone else and I need to live my life for me. Like I only get one chance at this and I want to be happy. Yeah. And everyone around you will be happier too. It's like that saying on the on the plane like, oh, if you're going down like the mother's, don't put it on your child. Put the oxygen first, right? And then you save everybody else. By you though thinking about yourself first, you'll be

better to everybody around you too. It's not a selfish thing like people think. You know, I think a lot of women think that that's selfish. No, it's not. It's what I hadn't done my whole life. I've never put the oxygen on myself. Exactly. And now I've decided to put the oxygen on. And yes, do I, I absolutely care about what my husband and what he thinks and what I'm still doing. Like, I'm still fucking guys. Oh my God. I can't wait for that. We have to talk about that. Go on. I am also taking care of myself, but I'm also making sure that. he's okay we're we're both at now not just me okay so let's get to this point okay so your husband says okay you say i can't go back i still what's crazy is that you're not even like okay let's go back

to like monogamy you're like you know i i want to stay with you but i want to actually be non monogamous and i want to keep banging guys and does he get to bang girls like what is this situation how did you decide to move forward well he decided that he wasn't interested i told him I said, I want you to experience what I've experienced. I want you. No, but when you said, I don't want to stop sleeping with other guys, he said, okay, you could continue, but I'll stay with you. No. Well, he was, he, he was sad.

Mm-hmm. It was, it was sad for him, but it was also, he's like, okay, we're going to work on this. You know, he's, he wasn't going to just throw in the towel because I wanted to keep doing it. I mean, we had to work through some of that stuff. And yes, he allowed me to keep doing that. Yeah. Wow. And do you remember the first time, like, that you went and did it? Did he, was he the type that started to realize he was like into it at all or does he never want to hear details? Like, how is it set up with you? And then I want to ask about him with other women. Okay. So he, he, to begin with, he wasn't super interested. He was still trying to, like, get over the fact that I cheated on him. Right. Like, I mean, right. I mean, I just blew his world up. Yeah. Like, massively. So he's trying to get over that. I'm still fucking horny. and I still want to fuck other guy. So he's like, okay, okay, yep.

I want you to be happy and I just want you to be safe. I want to know where you're at. Do not lie to me. If you're going to go fuck somebody, I want to know where you're at. Okay. So, and I haven't, I haven't lied to him. You know, I've told him. And he, you know, he slowly come around to look like,

I want to know some of these details. Like, can you tell me what happened? So we worked into that a little bit. And he, you know, he got on fat life. It's a lot slower on. that life for the guys and it is the girls. Yes, it's a woman's world. Unfortunately, the life's out for guys.

My son. It's like the twilight zone. It's not like the real world. Right. My son has always told me that it's a, you know, pussy rules the world. And I was like, whatever. I didn't know that until I got into all of this.

Yeah. Pussy rules the world. Yeah, it does in that world. Pussy fucking rules the world. So that also made me feel more confident. Like, holy shit, my pussy can rule the world. Oh, my God. It was slow for him.

He's very, I mean, he's very attractive. I mean, he could be on GQ. Right. Like, he's super attractive. And so I'm like, dude, just chill. Like, it's going to happen. He's introverted. I'm extroverted.

I can carry a conversation. He's never been one that it's just harder for him. But he slowly but surely the lady started, you know, coming around. And pretty soon I'm like, oh, dude, you got a girl. Like, go. fucker, you know, like, get on it. What are you waiting for? Oh, my God.

And so you're completely down for him to be with him. Oh, wow. This is the most interesting story. I mean, even one of us had fucked anybody before each other. Like, why? Why not? Right? I love you.

I love this. We're 50 years old. What are we waiting for? We're in our prime. Our kids are gone. Like, yeah, it's time to start fucking other people. And we still sleep in the same bed with each other and fuck each other. It's time.

we're both open-minded people. What are we waiting for, right? Right. But let me ask you this. So as a woman, right? I mean, because listen, human beings, we all like, you know, we want our cake and eat it too. We sure do. We could all be like, oh, yeah, we want to fuck over.

We want, but I don't want you to fuck anyone. I love when people say that because you can understand that on some level. It's human nature, right? Sure. So did you know for sure when you were allowing him that that you would have zero jealousy? No, I didn't know that for sure. Okay. Did you worry?

Did I worry that? he would leave me? No, did you worry that you would be jealous? Did you worry how you'd feel? No. Because this is a whole new thing. No. Okay. I didn't worry at all. I'm like, I'm going to take, this is the new me. I'm going to take it as it comes and we're going to work out these feelings. Whatever it pops up. Let me ask you this because I had a girl, a woman on Camille once and I loved her story too. And she was somebody who got cheated on by her husband and then she wound up, he gave her a free pass because he felt so bad, just like you did. And she wound up like going and screwing other men. And she said to me, and maybe this is like backwards for you, but same thing.

She said to me like, you know, I really realized when I started like having sex with these other people, it really made me understand as cheating and not see it as bad because I realized that like, oh, I could sleep with these people and didn't mean anything. You know, whereas before she just felt like, oh, it must mean he loves them like me. Like she had it in her mind that sex and love is the same thing. when she started to get the free pass into it, she realized, oh, like, I'm doing what he did and it doesn't make me not love him so she could like kind of understand it in a different way. So maybe because you were cheating and you knew it didn't take away from that, that like what it was and what it was that it didn't,

you knew that you wouldn't care because you had done it yourself. Right. Totally. You are 100% spot on. She was. She taught me that. I was like, oh, that's so interesting, you know, that you would have that perspective. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Because I feel the same way. I feel the same. And I told him that. I told him that in the beginning. I said, once you, when you go and you fuck that first woman, I'm going to be more excited than you are. Because I know exactly how I felt the day that I went home from the gas station, you know? Oh my God. And I wanted him to feel that way. I wanted him to understand really how I felt. You know, like it's, it's a new world out there for both of us. Neither one of us have fucked other people. So I wanted him to experience that. That's, to me, that's, they could. call it compersion, right? Yes, yes. And you wanted that. Did he, has he had that yet? Oh, fuck yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah, he's fucking other ladies. Yeah, he's actually going over to see a lady tonight.

I'm going to, I work a second job, and I'm going to go to my second job here in a little bit, and he's going to go over to a lady's house tonight. And I'm like, cool. I hope it all worked out for you. How many girls has he's been? I know you can't count your guys. How many women have tons to? He's, You know, he's a little bit more about having a friendship and that kind of thing. He's a little bit less of a slut than I am. He's probably been with, I would say probably six to eight women, probably. Wow. And never been any jealousy in your part.

You're like high-fiving him. You're into it. Now, are you turned on by it at all? I don't know if I'm turned on by it. I'm just happy that he's happy. Yeah, yeah. That's a different thing, but that's wonderful too. I mean, I just didn't know.

So, like, you guys never play together, right? Like you're not doing it. You're just playing solo with other people. We are. And we have done the together thing. And he didn't love it and I didn't really love it. So I feel like. You guys are so interesting to me. This is like a whole new world I'm hearing about. I really, really, really enjoy focusing one on one with a guy. And I've been told I'm a sexual dynamo. You fuck like a porn star. Like you are next level. And none of that was happening in my vanilla sex. You know, I didn't even know I had it in me.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, interesting. Mr. BDSM, the one of the, the first day I was there, he said, all I ask of you is to be yourself. Do not hold back. Wow. Be who you are. If you want to scream, scream, like, I want you to be who you are. And I followed that advice from him. He is, as much pain as he's caused me in my life, he has also taught me so much.

Like, yeah. So there's a little bit of, you know, a little bit of both there. But that's what I wanted for my husband. Like, I wanted him. And I knew that he would get to that point. I just needed him to get there, right? He needed to have a woman. And how did he feel that first time?

Did he come back and say, oh, my God, you're totally right. Like, what was his first experience about? Yep. Yep. He come back and he's like, holy fucking shit. Oh, my God, you guys are crazy. Oh, I'm obsessed with this story. You were right.

He's like, I understand how you felt that day. He's like, that was amazing. He's like, there's no one that will ever replace you. He's like, you are by far. the best, I mean, you're the best person in general, but you are by far the best in bad. Like, he's like, there's nobody better. But yes, he enjoys, you know, I mean, who doesn't? Let me ask you this, because you're allowed to be yourself with all these other people now.

Yes. And he's going and doing that. Now, has your guy's sex life changed between the two of you? Yeah, I feel like it's gotten better because, you know what? We can communicate. Before I couldn't ask for sex now when I'm horny, I do. Are you squirting with him and letting loose? Oh, girl.

We haven't even gotten into the squirting. Yeah, tell me. You know how obsessed. The evolution of DD squirting has, dude, it's out of this. I mean, that's, so I'm on fat life, right? I told you that. I'm posting videos on fat life.

I'm posting still pictures because if you don't have a membership on Fat Life, you don't get to see the video. So I put the stills out. And I, the guys, I mean, that is definitely a thing for guys, obviously. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, the squirting has gone to next level. Like, I can squirt for 20 seconds, two feet in the air. Wow, like a geyser.

It is a geyser. It is. It's like old faithful. And that's right. And the guys say that. They're like, how did this? I'm like, I just started this last year. And it had to, in the beginning, it had to be with his hand.

Yeah. And he was the only guy that could ever really find the spot. He, because he's fucked so many women. and he knows exactly what he's doing. Yeah. And he put his hand right on, his fingers right on the spot that it needed to be. And it just would shoot out and hit the wall. Wow.

Has your, any of it happens with everyone now? Yes. And I mean, it evolved into, I figured out I needed to use a vibrator. If I had a clitoral orgasm, then I would just slap my pussy and it just fucking shot out of me. Just by slapping it? Yes. Wow. I learned that when a guy took his big dick.

and he slapped it on my pussy and I shot squirt. It was running off of his eyes out of his mouth. It was like, he's like, oh, my God. He's like, I've been with a lot of women before, but I've never had anybody drenched me just like you did. And so when he slapped my pussy with his dick, I was like, holy shit. I didn't realize that that was a thing. So then I just started using my hand and it did the same thing.

Wow. So I've heard that before, though. Like once you allow yourself to squirreter, or figure it out. It becomes easier and easier and it can happen all the time. And look, I mean, for you, it was like once you let go,

it sounds like you were always wired that way because you were on the verge that just didn't realize it. But once you realize that you could, now you can in any way. And it's, I think it's like, I don't know what the right word

to use on all of this, but it's, it, the fact that I can squirt like I do now is almost like how I feel about myself, like how much I've come. How far. It's like the evolution of me, right?

Like everything I was holding back, my voice, you know, my feelings, everything. And now I can, I was holding back my squirt and all of it. And now I have let go and I've become who I've always wanted to be. And look at how far I've come. Like it's, I don't know how to put it into words in an eloquent way, but it's all very, it's a journey that I've been on. And I will continue to stay on. I just want to keep evolving and being my best self.

And listen, that's what life's all about. And it doesn't matter how old you are. You should always continue to grow and change. Because when you're done with that, like you just die. There's no other reason to be here. But I do believe the reason why we are here on Earth is to grow and change and to evolve as people. And I think what's sad is that a lot of people don't allow for that in others or themselves. You know, a lot of times when people change, you see it a lot with celebrities, like a, you know, like, remember when poor Angelina Jolie was like shooting a heroin and then she was like married with kids and people were like, how could you do that? It's like, well, how could she not do that? She grew and changed and evolved and now she's a mother, okay? You can't, if your brain can't handle that, then what do you allow in your own life? Like, you're allowed to, you're supposed to grow and change. You're not supposed to be the same fucking person your whole life. Like, that's not what it's about. To me, it's a red flag when people say, you've changed.

Right. As you should. That's amazing. Should we all fucking change? Are we all trying to be, I don't want to be the person that I was when I was 18. I'm 52. I want to be, I am a growth mindset. I am of that. I want every day I want to grow and I want to be better. Yes. Yes. Yes. And when you know better, you do better. Yes. And people don't allow for that. And those are all the people that say like, oh, people, you know, can't change. It's like, no, you think that because you don't allow. for yourself to change. But people, I've changed so much, like, as a person. So, like, I believe people can change and believe that they should. But so many people think nobody changes.

And a lot of people don't. But that's their own limitation because they think like there's something wrong with it, you know, and there's nothing. Actually, that's like what life's about. And so many people are hitting the head 20 times with the same fucking problem and the same nonsense and they don't grow and change from it. And it's like, that's a sad thing, you know, because I think that they don't want to let go of who they were. And people are so afraid of change. and that's why they hate seeing it in other people. But that's what it's about. And it doesn't matter how old you are.

There's always that opportunity for that. And I love that not only you, but also your buddy there, your guy that you met was right there with you. And he grew and changed too. And I'm sorry, but there are so many people listening that are salivating at your story

and wish that they could be you. And it's just like, just open yourself and allow for that change to happen. On some level, you were ready for that, you know? And yeah, it had to blow up and it didn't happen the right way, but I'm sorry, that's life, okay?

It's not like, oh, you, it could have happened any other way. I'm sure if you could go back and do it differently, you would go back and tend to your issues. That's what people should, you know, if you don't want to do it like you, right? And you don't want it to blow up in your fucking face. Start talking to your partner. Start telling them what they're not giving you, you know,

and start having those conversations, start doing all that stuff. But, you know, sometimes shit like, it happens like this in a very messy way, but it winds up to be a thing that did help you. Sorry. And I look at all the bad things that happened. in my life is the same thing.

Right. Cassie? Yeah. I have so much more to tell you. Like, this is just the beginning. But the only thing that I'm on is sweet cream pie on fat life. If you could promote that, that would be amazing. For sure.

Send me the link to it or send me the name. So I'll put it in the description. And then listen, we will have you back on, cream pie. Okay, you'll be back on. We'll do a part two. We'll do a girl talk, like how to have an open relationship with your guy kind of thing. So now we have your whole backstory. I needed this back story.

This back story is so deep and so many layers and it's so important to get out there. And that's why I wanted to give that to you. I wanted to give. And it's like, how do I mix this all in within an hour and tell you my sweaty stuff? No, no, this is an important story. And then we'll get your dirty details on another time. Okay. More dirty details.

Okay. This was good enough. But I will gladly have you back on. Use that link. Make another appointment and we'll do a part two and I'll just air it down the line. Okay. Perfect. I appreciate it.

I love your story. I'm obsessed with it. Thank you, Kathy. Thanks for calling in. Bye, baby. Bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback

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