Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 948 - NAUGHTY CONFESSIONS: He Slept w/his Wife's Niece, He Just Left a Cougar Gangbang, He Went From Vanilla to Cuck and More w/Layla!

Episode Date: October 23, 2024

Tune in to hear Kathy and Layla discuss a bunch of naughty confessions. First, you’ll hear from a guy who went from being vanilla to being cucked then back to being vanilla, then you’ll hear from a guy who cant cum from a woman blowing him but can from a man, then from a married guy who is in the lifestyle whose wife gets mad every time he fucks another woman in front of him and then you’ll hear from a guy who was cheating on his wife with her niece was well as hundreds of other women. Then you’ll hear Kathy and Layla discuss dopamine highs and how and why it’s important not to let them rule your life, how sex isn’t the most important thing in a relationship, how the why getting wired into dirty sex can cause problems later, how you can unwire yourself so you can be into other things, how and why some women are empowered by gang banging, Layla’s fave cuckcake porn video she found recently and why she loves it, how and why Kathy believe any person can change and why Layla disagrees with her, how to deal with jealousy when it comes up in the lifestyle and why communication is key in that world plus a whole lot more. LAYLA'S WEBSITE WITH LINKS TO EVERYTHING: https://www.thecuriousgirldiaries.com **To see pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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go to the description and click on the link and you'll be taken right there. Now listen, today's a naughty confessions episode and we got some good confessions and we have some funny, commentary on the confessions. Wait until you hear Layla. She's on fucking fire this time. Okay. She just had me laughing so much. But I'll give you a quick rundown. First, you can hear from a guy who was like vanilla. Then he got cucked by someone. He had like the hottest experience of his life hooked up. And then he went back to being a vanilla guy and he talks about why. Then we hear from a guy who could only come when he's getting a blowjob from a man and he can't come when he gets a blowjuff from a woman. He wants advice. We give him our advice. Then we hear from a guy, a young guy,

who just got out of a cougar gang bang, and he explains what went down there. And we hear from a guy who is in the lifestyle with his wife. But every time he fucks another girl where they're doing a couple swat swap, she gets angry. And he talks about that. And then we give him advice. And then we hear from a guy who was cheating on his wife with her niece, as well as hundreds of other women. and he recently got caught. Now listen, me and Layla give our commentary on all of these. And like I said, Layla is on fucking fire. You know, we talk about mean highs and being addicted to sex.

We talk about, you know, how being wired into dirty sex could sometimes cause problems. We talk about how that guy who's wired into blowjubs from men could get turned on by women giving him head. We talk about how alpha guys can suck a dick and still be alpha. That's a whole side thing that we talk about. We talk about gangbangs and whether we're into them or not. Lila talks about her favorite cuck queen cup, cuck cake porn she's seen recently.

That whole combo is super interesting. And then we give advice to the guy whose wife isn't down with him fucking other women. I think we give him good advice. And then we also give advice to the guy who got caught cheating with his niece. We give him a lot of advice. end with that one. It's a super interesting episode. Mine and Layla's commentary is fucking funny and insightful if you ask me. So anyway, I'm going to get right to be right back on with Layla. Hi, Kathy. My name's Tony. I'm a 44 man from Florida. Single. The past six

months, I've had a whirlwind that went from completely vanilla to being a cuckled, stag, hot wife partner to a beautiful woman I met. And we went from zero to 100 and six months flat. Broken up, I'm currently on a drive back home to Indiana to spend time with my family to try to process what just happened in my life. It was nothing short of amazing, and I just I don't know how to interpret what happened. In 2018, I was married for 10 years, and like a lot of guys, I found my wife trying to stray and cheat me with other men, and it messed me up pretty bad. And the way I came to terms with it was I was doing research into why she was cheating, you know, because I had no answers.

I was a Midwestern man. I was married, one, done. I was going to be me for life. It didn't matter how miserable I was. I was never going to give up. I know we were strictly vanilla sex, nothing outside the mouths, nothing crazy.

You couldn't even talk about it. Anyway, I struggled or stumbled across non-monogamy, ethical non-monogamy. After I divorced, I developed that cuckling fantasy. And once I took a few years to myself, I didn't date. Then when I started dating, I just kept finding vanilla women that were so boring.

And, like, I still had this fantasy in me that I wanted to explore. I was interested in swinging. and sharing my girl and all that stuff. And February or January this year, I was on Bumble, and I had three beautiful women that were all great matches, but I had a few drinks. I thought, you know what? I was going to throw it all out there.

So I told each of them what I was into and what I was looking to get into. And I was thinking, you know, this will clear them all out. They'll all match me. Nobody's going to go for this. First one unmatched me. Second one said, that's cool. I'm not into it. It's okay if you are.

I still want to be your friend. The third one didn't respond and then replied with a video. There was a video she made out of the video. having sex with another man that she had made for an ex-boyfriend who was also into what I was into. So, long story short, five days in our relationship, I'm having sloppy seconds with her after she slept with somebody else because she know I wanted to do it. We end up going to swingers clubs. We end up having a threesome with my best friend, male, female male. Anyway, that was the hottest night of my life. Our lives, all three of us, like, the dopamine high was so, so crazy. And, like, we thought we were so in love

because we were just high all the time off this because we were living in his fantasy like nonstop. She was in them spanking, too. Like, we were doing it. that, which was incredible. I don't know. I got me into BDSM a lot. I might be something fun to talk about. But we're moving together and instantly things fade. Like, once the dopamine started the fate, we started to see each other in like normal life. It just tanked. And a month later, here I am driving Indiana, trying to reset. I talked to my brother. I was telling him what was going on. I didn't tell the details. I don't know how my family would handle it. And he's like, brother, you are chasing dopamine. Like, you need to stop. And I think he's right. Because we were just

looking for the next high after high after high, I got, I'm drinking too much. I'm doing things I shouldn't be doing. I'm having a wild-ass sex. And now I'm going back home to reset. And her and I were going to do this call together. But now that we're split, I don't think she wants to do that. Maybe I'll have her calling. You can talk to her on her on to get her side.

Because her life's been pretty wild. She's an amazing woman. I adore her. I love her. We still think she's the one I'm supposed to be with. I just think that got cut up in this world. I don't know. So I don't know if I'm ever going to find anybody that's in this lifestyle ever again.

But the past six months have been absolutely incredible. like most loving, heartbreaking. I feel like I was in a movie, and it just went by like a bowl of then. So I don't know. I hope if you want to talk to me more about an interview tool, I love it. Take care. I love your show.

Okay, so I'm just going to say the first thing that came to my mind when I heard this, and then I'm curious what you think about this angle, you know, because it sounds like he had this amazing, hot experience. Like, right? Imagine a lot of guys want to be a fucking cuck. See their girl, fuck another guy.

He found a girl. I don't know if you have ever got. a video of one of your guys fucking another girl into your like inbox ever or in your text message. I did once and was like, holy shit. Like there's something very hot about it. You know, so I get, uh, you know, why he picked that girl and they had their whole thing. But like, I don't know. I feel like he's because like things fizzled when she moved in that he's kind of looking at the situation very black and white. like, you know, great sex, cocking someone, hot wifing, going to swingers club, having threesomes.

Like, that's just like something that you get addicted to regardless, you know, which isn't the case. Like, I think, like, the problem here is that maybe they don't have anything else in common outside of the fucking bedroom. Like, it tanked when she moved in because, like, how are you in everyday life with that person? Not ever, just because you have great sex with somebody and you're down for all the stuff. sexually means that you're going to have every other piece of the pie filled with that one person. But it doesn't mean that, you know, chasing the dragon. Like he was saying, oh, his brother-in-law, who's probably just fucking jealous is like, don't do that.

Like, you're just chasing the dragon. Plenty of people do that stuff. And they're not chasing any fucking dragon. They're just having fun. And they are getting a dopamine hit. But they come home and they get along with their wives because they have other things in common. And it might just be that simple. Do you know what I'm saying?

Yeah. Yeah, no, I think what this guy's kind of maybe missing is you still have to live real life, you know? And having all that fun, all that hot fun sex and getting into all, you know, the cuck holding and all of his little kinks and fetishes. Yes, that is, you will get this super high off of it that things you've never felt before. But I think you're right when, you know, when you said they moved in and then it fizzled, they just don't have enough. in common outside of the bedroom to keep things steamy and exciting. I mean, you know, they should be totally like liking, living together. And then they look forward to the stuff.

And then they plan it. And, you know, then they have more access to each other. But since they have more and he's not as interested, I think that, you know, they just have chemistry in the bedroom and that's it. Yeah. I just think that he's making it sound like what he's kind of framing this whole situation and what his brother-in-law only helped him do is like, Like look at hot wiping and swinging and all that great sex that they were having as the problem.

It's too high. It's making you feel too good. And now you're chasing it so you're addicted to it. Maybe he's a fucking addict and he's going to get addicted to anything good. That's like a different fucking problem. But the problem is like there's there's nothing wrong with great sex. There's nothing wrong with having those fucking highs, you know. But in order for a relationship to last, you have to have more than that.

And that's what we all learn. When we are young, okay, everybody when they're young, this is why I don't believe in getting married in your fucking 20s because you really only wind up dating people you have good sex with. Like that is the prerequisite, right? It's all about fucking chemistry. You don't think twice about anything else, right? It's all about physical fucking attraction. Don't you think? Like, isn't that's how why I dated every one of my boyfriends? Big Dick Nick had the biggest dick and he fucked so good and I was so into him sexually, but I couldn't stand anything else about him. But he was the longest boyfriend I ever had because when you're young and dumb, you just go for sex. But that doesn't

last long term. But it doesn't mean that good sex is bad. And that's what I'm trying to say here. You know, and I think he's sort of framing this as it was all about the sex was the problem. I don't think the sex was the problem. I think you had a great fucking time. You should be like, woohoo. You got a great story. I think this guy's maybe looking at it from, I'm just, he's looking at it from the wrong point of you. Yeah. Half empty. Yeah. Of course you're going to have, of course you're going to have all that, you know, dopamine and all that excitement. And you are going to be coming down off these great experiences. But that's what makes you want to go do them again with that person.

And then, you know, you have other things, too, that bond you outside the bedroom. I mean, something's off. Something's off with this story. Yeah, because it fizzled, right? Think about it. That's what's the problem. That was like the bummer of this story. The story would have been great if I ended it before shit fizzled.

They would have a great future together. They moved in together and everything fizzled. And to me, that just means that, you know, like I said, maybe she can't handle things. not being like so fucking intense but most people can handle a really great dopamine high and then come back to fucking earth and still be down with that person you know if you're in a real relationship that's what a real relationship is about so i just think she's the wrong person i think right he could find another girl that's down she's not the only one i say don't don't give up you could chase a dopamine high it's not that bad unless you're an addict i'm an addict right so i get it

You know what I mean? I like anything that feels fucking good. But I could still regulate it now. You know, I don't know. I just think the problem is you weren't, they weren't compatible. That's what I think. And frame it that way instead of framing it like the dopamine high was the problem. And I think that's what I'm trying to say.

Don't blame it on the great sex. Exactly. That's what I mean. That's my whole point. Don't take that down with it. So what? You didn't, you know, you didn't work outside of the, you know, you only work when you're in the bedroom. That's all right.

You guys should still be fuck buddies. I don't get it. Like, why throw the baby out with the bathwater? Exactly. No, I know. All right. So that's that. I feel like, you know, we could have made it a hotter story by not ending with the

Fizzle, but I think it's important. Like sex shouldn't be the only reason why you're with somebody. Exactly. No, I know. All right. So that's that. I feel like, you know, we could have made it a hotter story by not ending with the fizzle.

But I think it's important. Like section be the only reason why you're with somebody. No, exactly. And finding, it is hard, though. I mean, I've certainly been with guys where the sex wasn't that great. Of course. But I didn't know it. But you know, you don't know it once.

And then when you start having better sex, like when they go from, you know, he said he was vanilla. And now he's, you know, exploring all this stuff. And you enter this whole other realm. Yeah, it's very exciting. So it can make just the day-to-day things that you do in a relationship less exciting. But I just think, you know, I mean, still all in all, if they're not making it, as a couple, then they're just good in the bedroom and that's okay too. I mean,

no, but I think what you just said is super smart and important. Like maybe they did get really too addicted to that high because it was something they never were used to. I mean, it sounds like she did it before because she had an ex-boyfriend, but he didn't. And maybe he wasn't able to regulate and like when she's just, when he woke up with her in the house the next day and he didn't really understand. But maybe if he would have given himself more time, he would have gotten used to that. been okay and been able to ride that wave better, you know, instead of sort of expecting the next

day in real life for their relationship to have that supercharged feeling. Yeah. You know, that's what you said, right? And I think you're right. I think that maybe, yeah, maybe that's there and lies the problem. It is a problem with the dopamine high, but it's just a problem of him having to get used to it and know that he shouldn't expect it with her outside of the bedroom. And maybe if they would have given any, I don't know how long they stayed together.

in the house, but maybe they should have given themselves more time. Yeah, I know. We just don't, there's things we don't know, have enough detail on, but obviously, I mean, you move in together. That's a big step. And then moving out, that's a big step too. Just not saying to fix it or figure it out. Why don't you take the step to work on your relationship?

I know. That's like, okay. Because everybody knows like moving such a drag. Like I'd rather do anything but that. Oh my God. I would have been like, we are going to work this through, buddy. Oh, my God. That's why I need you on these calls.

You make really good points. You're right. I love it. Okay, let's get to the next confession. Hey, Kathy. I have slightly a confession, but almost a little. I would love to hear what you and Layla think of this. It's something that I can't quite understand about myself.

I'm a guy who I present as straight, but I play with girls and I play with guys. And I have a problem, though, where I cannot come from a blowjob when a girl is sucking me off. I mean, I can. It takes me forever. And they wind up getting frustrated. And there's something about me that I just am, I don't want to taste nasty to turn the girl off, I guess. But when a guy's giving me a blowjob, I can come really easily. And it's like, I don't even care.

I've had girls who want to rem me. And I'm like, no, I can't do that. I'm too self-conscious. But if a guy wants to, I'm like, fine, go for it. And I mean, I get hard with either blowjob, but it is really hard for me to come in a girl's mouth. Whereas a guy, shoot, it'll take me only a couple minutes. And I don't know why. And I'm wondering if you've ever heard of that, if any of your other listeners have that problem, I don't know why I'm self-conscious that way.

But I'd be curious to hear your thoughts. Thanks so much. How a good one. Okay, Lou, I'm going to give this one to you because you have such, I forget about your good insights that I have I've been thought of. So I want to hear what you think first. Because I feel like you're going to change my mind. I feel like you're going to change my mind.

Okay. Okay. I know. I'm curious. I'm curious at the angle you're coming from. But here's, this just came to me. I can't take the credit for this. But I just had somebody on my show and he was talking about, he helps guys, you know,

like with this kind of stuff. And he was saying that depends on how he conditioned his penis, basically, to orgasm during that scenario. So as an example, is he watching a lot of porn? What kind of porn? What is it about that that's really, really turning him on? And when he's jacking off or how he's touching his penis, you know, how he comes, basically. And with a guy, you know, I would imagine with a guy, he said he presents straight.

So he's down there, you know, he's letting some guy suck his dick. That's got to feel like this is naughty. I shouldn't be doing this. It's super hot. It's erotic. It's a little dirty. and it's that thing. Like maybe when he was watching porn when he was younger

and masturbating the stuff like that, these are the thoughts and the feelings and these impulses that are going through him. Now you've got a nice woman down on her knees. Vanilla, boring, regular. It's not coming across the same. So, you know, almost like with our previous caller there, it's this dopamine thing.

He's getting this big, supercharged dopamine hit. when it's somebody is when it's a guy doing it. It's situational. And I think he can, he's conditioned that. I think he can condition himself to, you know, if he had like some real, real dirty, dirty sled or she got into it or whatever, I'm sure he can come that way too. But there's something about the dirty stuff. I mean, I've even gotten excited when there's a guy that I'm maybe not even that

attracted to. And he's down there. I know, this is kind of sick. but he's down there eating my pussy, right? And I'm just like, I can get into it because I'm like, that's right. You don't fucking deserve to eat this pussy, but you get to. So get down there and do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's like dirty to you because it's dirty sex. Yeah. And it's way more exciting. You're throwing, you know, gasoline on a fire with that kind of stuff. And I think that's what's going on. I think he's just the excitement, you know, that he's getting out of it, the thrill. I think you're so smart. I think that that makes so much sense.

And it's all about, and to me, the way you sort of fix that, I think, is just by reframing. Because obviously you framed, you know, head from a guy in one way, just like you just said, right? He probably wired himself into that. And because he wired himself probably, like you said, when he's younger and he's watching it, and it was like so stigmatized and naughty and he shouldn't be doing it, right? But that's what fucking got him off, right? It's so supercharged, right? It's got that high that you said.

but he could do the same with the female blowjobs. I feel like he does, you know, it seems like he does have like, you know, women and men in two separate categories too. It sounds like he's very comfortable, much more comfortable being like a freak and a dirty dude with men than with women. He's like, oh, I feel like the women, I don't want to be dirty. I don't want them to rem me, but I don't care with guys. He's got to learn to fucking get dirty with girls. And I think like you said, he just needs one dirty girl that will push him. And so he could start seeing that women like it dirty too.

Listen to what Layla just said. Layla will rim your ass. Yeah. I will. She'll fist your ass. Oh, no, okay. You'll fist it. I won't.

Okay. That's worse. I won't rim it. Oh, my God. You're so funny. I'll rim an ass, but I don't know that I'd fist one. Who's dirtier? I'm here you.

You are a dirty. You're a dirty bitch. I'm telling you. Well, listen, but I, and you know, with that said, yes, I can have a very dirty mind, right? But there are some people for some reason. And I think it's because, you know, there's always unspoken things, right? Somehow you're with a partner, no matter how long you've been with them. You kind of know their boundaries, right?

It's unspoken. Like some people you just know you could go certain places and some people you can. And so I feel like he might think, you know, all these women that he's with are, you know, None of them are dirty. But that's not true. I mean, it's just a fucking blowjob. Girls like blowjobs. Like, he could sort of reframe that whole scenario.

You know what I'm saying? A thousand ways. I mean, he could, you know, he could do some roleplay. Like I said, making her get on, you know, get on her knees, teasing her with his dick, grabbing her head and, you know, making her gag on it and then telling her what a good girl she is. I mean, like, he could totally, he could go in so many different directions with us. And, you know, he's just not comfortable.

I think there's something that he's not comfortable for whatever reason, putting a woman in that position. But it's probably more, he just probably goes for these very similar, like, vanilla type women. And it's much more exciting sexually to be with someone that you can totally let loose with. It's animalistic and bohemian and free. And he feels that way when he's around men because it doesn't care about the judgment. He doesn't feel like he's going to get any. You know, he worries about the way a woman would judge him, I think. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

But what he doesn't understand is just draw my Patreon and go look at all the pictures of the women that are on my show. Okay, because some of them, I mean, gang bang Betty. Okay, she looks like a fucking soccer man. She's like I'm self-professed. I have a mom bod. She looks like the woman that would be in the flora selling you flowers, you know, and this woman is like gagging and over guys sticking their cocks down to her throat and she's the wall. She's being fucked by another. Okay.

So like, just because you think you're with vanilla women does not mean they're all vanilla. Some of the most vanilla women are the fucking freakiest. Okay. So he just has to, I think, allow himself to be more comfortable to try to go there with some girls, you know. But I think you're right. I think what you said in the beginning is very right. He sort of has it framed as not being as, it's not as hot in comparison. So either, you know, take a break for six months from getting blown by guys and just continue to get blown by women until like it makes you come or start watching really dirty come blowjob videos with women.

Like somehow he has to make it hot in his brain too. Yeah, or get them both together and have them both sucking his dick at the same time. And then, you know. Would you do that with your guy? Would I do that with my guy? You know what? It's very strange. I don't think so because I don't know.

It depends. It really depends on the dynamic. If I was in control, maybe. But there's something about me like that my guy, I like really, really masculine guys. And they typically don't want a guy sucking their dick. That's not true. Oh my God. Stop.

You need to. Okay. Wait. I'm just going to tell you. Okay. I just had on Brooke Ryder. Okay. She's a hot wife on my show.

And I just told you before we talked, you should get her on your show, right? And she is married to the most alpha, alpha manly man. You could see picks of him. He's fucking jacked. He's an alpha dude. Okay. Major. You know, they're like a race car people.

Okay. to guy on guy action, she felt exactly the way you did. Like she was like, I like that he's alpha. She felt like she would like not be attracted to him and she would see him as less than or and not alpha if he sucked another guy's cock or she saw that. And she, you know what she said? It had the opposite effect. She saw him as more fucking alpha.

There are tons of alpha fucking dudes that suck cock. It's nothing about not being alpha or anything. And what I typically hear from women who have that fear is it does not change their feeling about it. So that's all I'm saying because that's what I've heard. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's my concern.

It's just like, I don't know if I want to go into that realm. But this guy, you know, this guy certainly can. He needs to. He needs to. I think that would be exciting for him. Yeah. And because also, like if I'm blowing you as a woman, it's annoying that you can't fucking come.

Okay. Like how long are you making me suck your car for before you're going to come? Because I'm not going to stop until you come. Like I'm like that bitch, right? I want to get you to completion. I know. I'm going to do it as long as it takes. But don't waste 30 minutes of my time.

I mean, like, you know. Right. Help me help you. Yeah. Oh my gosh. You're so funny. Oh my God. That was the best ending.

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You're really good. Hold on. Hey, I didn't want to confess. Orgy or Game Bang, I guess you call it, I don't know, but it was a Cougar-focused group sex event. It was amazing. I met some women there that some kids that were graduating college or in a place, and, you know, she's out there dating, and, you know, this is one of her first events that she's been out, and it was amazing hearing her stories, and overall, amazing time with these Cougar ladies,

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because, like, this is like a hot confession, okay? This isn't like our other confessions this time. All these people have fucking problems, okay, we're helping them with the problems. This guy, sorry, but this guy just had fucking fun, okay? I love his confession. Like, he literally just got out of a cougar gangbang. Okay, did you hear that this shit is what's, like,

The fact that this is taking place, okay, to me always blows my mind. Like there is a room, a hotel room right now somewhere where like he said it was literally eight women, eight cougars, women old enough to have kids in college, fucking a bunch of guys. And I think he said at the end, like a lot of people that RSVP didn't show up so there was only like four guys. So he was like four guys. So to me it was like a reverse gang bang. He got probably gang bang by the cougars.

I don't know who was in the gang bang. Like the guys were the girls. The girls outnumbered him. Literally, that's what was going down. And I threw this one in because it's just like a hot, you know, confession. He doesn't need advice or anything. But the fact is, you know, there are a lot of cougars having gangbangs because what I learned when I had someone on who creates porn is that gang bang porn happens to be the most highly

downloaded porn by women, most highly downloaded by women. Like that's what women download the most. Gangbang porn. And I don't know that I've ever asked you. Like, is the gangbang porn something you've ever watched? Oh, of course. But I'm more, I'm more into the specialty things. By the way, speaking of porn, I just got sent the hottest cuckold,

Cuck Queen porn. You will love it. It's like you will watch this one over and over. I'm sending it to you. It's fabulous. You're going to love this. I, oh my God, I masturbated to this. I watched it.

It was so fucking hot. They just, well, I mean, just tell us real quick. Like, what, what's the scenario? Okay. scenario is this is the perfect scenario like this this talk about dopamine hits like all of my little my brain cells were firing okay so it's uh the scene is it's this girl and she's married to this guy and he won't she won't have an ass she won't have butt sex with him he wants to fuck her in the ass she she's like she's too tight she can't do it so she asked her assistant if you know

she could help out if she likes anal sex she can help out and come and fuck her husband So she's there. The assistant starts fucking the husband, but she cucks the hell out of this girl. She's just like, oh, no. So no, I have to take over and fuck your husband because you don't know what to do. You sit there and watch. And she just totally cucked this girl throughout the whole scene telling her, no, don't turn your eyes away.

You look at me. Watch his dick going in and out. Come over here and smell his dick on, you know, smell my pussy on his dick. Get his dick breath in your mouth. I mean, she just, like, it was so good. Right, because she, like, dirty talked to you through the whole thing. It's not, wasn't just the visual. It was like saying all the things.

She was a mental mind fuck. It's the mental mind fuck. I like that kind of, like if that's the kind of cut queen, you know, I or cup, they call the girls cupcakes or cupcakes, the girls that come in and do this. So I'm a cupcake. I would totally like, oh, those are my fantasies right there. the girl that I, when I was with Jack and Jill, and we used to kind of cuck her,

Jack and I would cuck her a little bit, but I couldn't get as mean as I wanted to. And that's the, that's the uncovered element there. Because I'm like, ooh, I could really just, could really make her feel bad. Oh my God, you're so fucking funny. So in that hot scenario,

you're getting turned on by thinking of yourself as the woman that's getting fucked in the ass, right? Like that woman. You're not getting, You're not the woman on the side, right? Like, you're not the cuckling. You're the cuckled dress. You're the cuckled dress.

I'm the cuckled cake. Yeah. I don't, yeah. Yeah, I'm the cut cake. Yeah. So, mm-hmm. Yes, you're going to love it.

I'm sending it to you. I know. You're going to, I was, I, when I watched this, I was just like, I have to share this with Kathy. She's going to love this. Oh my God. That's so funny. But I am not that, I'm not you in that scenario.

I'm the other girl. I'm the cuck queen. I want to see my guy get fucked. That's what I said earlier. Like, oh, have you ever gotten a video of a guy that you like, like fucking somebody else? Like, did you ever see a guy you like fucking someone else? Like, it happened to me by accident.

Yes. And it was like the hot. Yes. I was like, what the fuck? It happened by accident. And I was like, oh my God. Do you have anything else you could send me? I was like begging.

Like, send me more. But we talked about gangways. I've never, I mean, the truth is, I don't know. Why? And I don't know what that says about me. But I've never watched gang bang porn. That's never been in all of my times, I don't think in every crazy thing I've ever watched, right? When it comes to that kind of like porn, right? I've dabbled in all kinds of shit, right? You go down the rabbit hole. You just look at stuff. But never gang gang. It's just not something that I'm into, but so many women are. And this is what I think. This is how I analyze myself. I have had some very hardcore girls. on my show who do gang bangs and they talk about how it really empowers them. You know, and one of them that I know that's done over 50, she's very shy in her regular life. And so living out these gangbings is a way for herself to like empower herself. Like she's like this shy person and she's quiet, but she gets in a gangbing room and she is like fucking in control of all those guys. And I was like,

I think maybe when I was doing her story for my book, by the way, I was thinking maybe that's why I'm not into gangbings because I'm fucking gangbanging guys. I walk down the street and I'm like telling off seven guys and empowering myself with men. You know what I mean? Like I'm fully empowered. I don't need to be. I don't know. Like it's not a I don't need that thing.

But I think that's what women get out of it. That's the psychology behind it. Even though some men think it's the opposite. They think it's like disempowering for the women. They're being fucking used and taking advantage. But no, it's not. The woman is in control and the woman is being empowered. I'm like maybe I've never had that fantasy because that's not.

not, I don't, I don't, I already feel empowered in that sense. You know, I like to be more submissive. And that to me isn't a submissive kind of act. Yes. It's interesting. Who knows? I, I don't, I know, I don't, I've never, so gang bang porn. I've watched it. It's not my go-to. I either want to be submissive or, you know, the, the, the cupcake who's, who's totally in control and I get to, you know, put her down and fuck her guy and like that's just i like that shit yeah that's honest yeah that's honest you know or or if i have or if i'm with a submissive guy you know really you're gonna fist his ass you know fist his ass you know sorry sorry i'm never gonna get past that i'm gonna fist that ass yeah is that ass oh my god you can try it kathy you need to put that on your bucket list you need

to fist an ass no i never no no i'm gonna rim a guy but i'm not i'm gonna rim a guy but i'm never fist one. But Layla, you've been ending each confession with so good. Could you just say fist that ass one more time and we'll end with that? You just got to fist that ass. Say that. You just got to fist that ass. There you go. That's mic drop. Okay. And on to the next confession. Yeah. I'm a Patreon. Me and my wife been in a lifestyle since 2010. We feel like we've ever been, but we're really not. You know, we've been going through different episodes, you know, spicing it up. you know, three-sums, four-somes. But it seems like it doesn't go right unless she's comfortable,

and she's not comfortable with me engaging with somebody else, you know, a little female. She tried, but it's never successful. And it's like every time I put my dick in another female, I never finish it or never successful and stuff like that. And I'm about to give up a lifestyle. I'm just so tired that every time after an episode, we like arguing or trying to be debating and, you know, this and all that.

So I'm either going to be a cook or I'm going to give up. So you could label this as slinger, about to, and I want the end of it, you know, about to give up the lifestyle because I, myself, don't get total fulfillment. So thank you for everything. And Kathy, I love what you doing, a longtime supporter. Keep doing it. Well, okay, so comfortable with him fucking other women, and that's a hard limit for her. I don't see her changing that.

And so I think if he's fine with being a cuck, then he might just want to buckle up for that one because, you know, everybody's got their preferences. And I'm personally one that, you know, I don't know that I want to see my partner fucking someone else either. It just depends on the partner. Some guys, yeah, I'd be totally, you know, it'd be fine with me. you don't like. And then other guys, correct. Right.

And then the guys that I have a really strong bond with, then no. I mean, I really don't want to see them fucking other women. Maybe, you know, soft swapping. But no,

I don't think about the fucking. Yeah, I don't want that. Yeah. Listen, I think the majority of people feel that way, don't you, right?

But, and that is a problem. I personally, though, because I've talked to so many people, you know, I don't know, why they continue to do it, why they're continuing to do it and fight about it. You know, I don't understand why this hasn't been put on the back burner after the first time it didn't

work out. You know, like, who's, like, is he talking? You know, I need them both on my show. I would love to have them both come on and then have like a real professional person in the, in this world kind of counsel them. Because like, what's going on? Is your wife like not feeling comfortable about it? And then you're pushing her to do it again. And she like does it for you? Or do you say, okay, we'll never do again. She's like, no, I'll go try. I mean, because I could see both types, right? Like some women are going to twist themselves into a pretzel to make their guy feel okay and do what he wants, right? Most women, we're all fucking wired that way at some point in our lives. And there's also that kind of woman that's like, oh, I don't like it, but they forget, right? And

then they're like, I'll try it again, right? And they just keep going back. And even though they don't like it. I don't know what's happening. But, you know, this should have been put on hold a long time ago. because I do not believe, like, I have heard from couples who have been able to work through things and feelings and get to other sides of things and feel very differently about things. But, you know, you don't know if you just continue to do it and continue to fight about it. Like, continuing to do it is not going to sort of solve the problem if you're just fighting about it every time. Like, I just don't understand why it's still happening. You know, maybe they need to take a break. Yeah.

Why would you keep doing it? Especially this guy. I'd be like, fool me once. I mean, I don't need my ass to, like, you know, after every time we try this. No, no, no, no. But you see, you don't know. You're assuming that she's saying, hey, babe, let's go do it. And then she's, like, switching the script and, like, then getting all pissed off.

Like, how do you know it's not that she doesn't have a good time? But he pushes her the next time and says, come on, let's just go try it again. And then she's like, okay. And he's pushing her. So it's not like, then he deserves it. Well, see, I don't feel like he's pushing her. Well, we don't know. None of this.

Yeah, but most of this lifestyle stuff does not happen without the woman being, you know, giving the first consent. Now, you can rescind that anytime you're uncomfortable, but I'm saying I think maybe she's, she wants to. She likes the idea of it. But when she's actually there and doing it, it's just not coming off the way she thought it would and what it was in her fantasies. And so either, you know, you can get it to be more like inner fantasy and find out what that's about or stop doing it because it doesn't seem like it's a productive thing for you guys to do together. And there's so many other ways to be in the lifestyle without actually him having to fuck other women. Yeah, totally. There's a million things you can do.

Listen, you are right. The Swinger world is, I believe, like the upside down world in that women rule that world. It has to be the women's consent. She does guide. But that doesn't mean, Leila, that that is what's happening in this situation. When it is the reverse and the guy is pushing the stuff forward and the woman is just going along for the ride and he's being the dominant one, that's when it goes awry. So maybe that's what he's doing wrong and that's what he doesn't understand. Just because like what you say, like what you say is correct, this has to be the woman's consent.

But those are the stories that go wrong when it's not. Not every guy understands that. And not every guy allows to, like, is patient enough to go with the girl's pace. And that's what you got to do. That's what you got to do. So which one is it? Are you not going at her pace and you're pushing her to go at your pace? Or is she just pushing herself to continue to do something that she doesn't like to do?

And then she's turning around and saying, fuck that. Then you know what? You need to tell her like, this has to fucking stop, right? Oh, for sure, for sure. Although I'm going to, my gut's kind of, you know, maybe he'll follow up to you. I just, my gut says, I listen to his voice and I listen to what he said. I don't think he's the one being pushy. So what?

You think she just continues to do it even though she hates it and she gets upset? Yeah, I think she's, I think she is, I think it absolutely, she consents to it. And at the time, she's all about it and thinks it will be a good idea. and then when she gets into it, she can't get over that hump. Well, listen, there's a definite possibility for that. Either one of those scenarios could exist. I think more, it's like there's more of a percentage of it being likely to be the first situation in that he's pushing her because that's typically like what guys do.

But I do believe that there are women that will also push themselves to do something and say that they're okay and then change her mind. and it's a little nutty when you keep doing to yourself like something that you don't like. You know, at that point, you know, he then needs to be the one to stop it because she doesn't know when to stop it. And she should have stopped it a long time ago if it's not her. And if it's him pushing her, then he needs to put on the brakes. I don't believe that they can't work through it.

I've heard every kind of story. You just never really know, but you really have to take your time. And it is all about consent. And if someone has a fucking problem, if you are. communicating well as a couple, it should never get to be an argument. The fact that these are arguments that are happening, like you guys are just not navigating properly. It's not even just about her having, you know, having an issue. Why can't you talk about it without it not turning into an argument? Why is, why is her not feeling okay turn into an argument? Are you not accepting it?

Are you telling her it's not fair? You know what I mean? That's why things turn into an argument. And you can't argue with the way someone feels when it comes to shit like that. If someone doesn't feel right watching you fuck someone else, you can't tell them that they should or that it's fucking not fair. Right? None of that shit matters. Why is it an argument? Why are you arguing with her? Like that shouldn't turn into an argument unless you guys have fucking communication problems to begin with, right?

Think about it. Why is that an argument? Your girl doesn't fucking like it. Say, oh my God, I'm so sorry. Yeah. Yeah, right. They need to talk it through. Yeah. And they, extensively. Yeah. And they need to make sure that these kinds of things don't end up in fights and they shouldn't. Because I've heard from a lot of couples that have had problems, anybody, even the most professional swinger, okay, couples that are so open and so secure with each other, they, every now and then, they feel jealous too. It is just human being nature. Just the wind might blow a certain way one day and you're going to have fucking feelings. about something. That's normal. It happens to everybody no matter where they're at in their lifestyle journey, but like the difference between the couples that are successful and the couples

that aren't is the couples that are successful, they fucking talk about it and they completely respect the other person's feelings. End a story. You know what I mean? And that person has to feel comfortable going to their partner, whether it's a man or a woman and saying, this doesn't feel good to me and know that their partner's not going to make them feel uncomfortable, make them feel bad for it. Their partner's going to be like totally okay with it, you know, and that's where I think the problem is. I don't know how he reacts when she gets upset.

Maybe he gets pissed and that's not the right reaction. Sorry. You know? Yeah. Yeah. All right. Let's get to the next. So, but I personally think this should stop right now.

Don't fucking fuck other girls. Oh yeah. I do too. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, let's get to the next confession. Hey, hello. So yeah, I'm just calling to,

I guess try to tell my story real quick. So I have been having an affair with my wife's niece for I guess the past 15 months. However, like a long story short, my wife, she ended up finding out what was going on. And in the process of that, several things were revealed to her as to what I've been doing during the entirety of our marriage, including multiple affairs with hundreds of women. Through that, through our work and counseling, ended up coming out that I would, was diagnosed, if you would, as a sex addict. More things were revealed from not only the multiple affairs, but prostitution and everything else.

It's just pretty crazy just to, I don't know, I guess I feel I'm doing this because it's just more therapeutic for me to just be able to say it. But all this started at a very, very young age, I was introduced to pornography at about five years old. And by the time I was like 11, I was already being sexual by the time I was 14, I think going into 15, I started having an affair, or I don't know, I don't know, of that's the right word, but I was having sex with my cousin's wife, who they were about 23 at the time, and I was about 15. And that lasted, I don't know, maybe about 17, 18 years old. And I think

that really started the, I think it was just so hot of having an affair with a married woman. And that's always been my thing, one of my things. I know it's shitty, think about it now, because I've been, I've honestly been trying to change. And, you know, I feel like what I'm doing right now is really a slip. You know, sometimes when I'm listening to the podcast, I get turned on, and I know I'm slipping, so I have to try to turn it away because I am trying to do better. But at the same time, I'm just so, I get so engaged, and I guess it's just a dopamine hit that I'm getting off of, you know,

reliving and listening to it because, you know, I am who I am. And I always wanted a very sexual lifestyle, but I couldn't get that with my wife, but all these women I would get with, you know, I could get them to do anything, including my wife's niece. I think that's why, you know, it was such a great thing until everything came crashing down. But, yeah, I guess that's it for now. I have a lot more things I've done and just, I guess, really get into it. But that's it for now.

Bye. Okay, you know, you see a pattern here, right, to dopamine, dopamine, good sex, sex addiction. I mean, this guy, though, sounds like he's got it bad. Yeah, go. I think, so, yeah, so this guy, I don't think your other guy has an addiction, you know, the other dopamine guy. But this guy for sure does Because when it starts making you reckless like this

Yeah, I mean he's going way down the rabbit hole I mean having sex with his wife's niece He's just getting he's got to escalate this More and more and more by making it more and more risky And more and more naughty and until he gets caught Which is what he's been barreling towards And he sounds like he did you know But ooh good luck at the holidays

You know getting together with everybody Jesus It's so fucking funny. Well, listen, because did you hear the beginning where he said, this is how we got wired into it. One of the first, so here is this poor guy. And this is a very common thing with young kids nowadays. Porn is so readily available. So they're like literally being introduced to Saxon porn way before they're ready for it.

And they're getting addicted to it like really early. It's like the worst thing. So this was the little boy you found porn way before he was supposed to, got into it. And then when he's 15, he was literally. in a relationship fucking his cousin's wife. Cousin's wife. I know, I know. Right.

That was probably his first relationship. It lasted for two years. So talk about being wired into something. That's what gave him this cheating fucking sex addiction, that naughty thing. Yeah. Think about it. It's like it's literally like it's totally. No.

It's like psychology 101. That first relationship with your cousin's wife, which was highly inappropriate. more inappropriate on her end because she's fucking 23 and you're like 15, you know. But still like that definitely is what wired him to not only, you know, be into women who cheat, right? Because obviously he said he fucked hundreds of women. I'm assuming a lot of them were married and he's into that. But he's also a fucking cheater. Cheat on his wife with hundreds of women.

Yes. I just want to know what, God, I want to know what. I want to know more about. She said when she discovered all this, like, holy shit. Can you imagine? No, it's sad. I mean, yeah, and I wonder, you know, because I think sometimes like it's so obvious that someone's like a playa and, you know, there are like guys that fuck around and then sometimes

it's really not. And it's like, holy shit. So I don't know who this guy is, but to find out that your husband was fucking your niece and then all of these other women, I just think must. be the most devastating thing for a woman. The only thing I will say, okay, I'm like a tough love kind of person. Like, I believe in it. I feel like for this couple, I project five or 10 years from now. If they can make it through, I promise they will look back at this scenario as being the best thing that ever happened, because it's not like he wasn't doing all this shit before she found out, okay? She was like living

with someone who was fucking massively cheating on her with people that they were at holidays with, you know. And so all of this coming to light for better or for worse, five years from now is the best thing, right? Because it's the truth. And it blew the fuck up. And it sounds like he feels bad about it. Right. And he's having a come to Jesus moment like, oh my God, I have a fucking problem. And now he, this is finally a time in his life. He's going to face it because he's going to lose his wife if not. So it does seem to be like something like I said, I believe the best thing that happened to them. Though sometimes best things that happen to you are really fucking painful. Sorry, that's life. But that's the way you learn. Would you rather be married to a guy and not know

anything and have him doing all this stuff or like sort of blow up and see the truth and work it and, you know, make him a better person and then be on the other side of it five years from now. I'm married to a man who's monogamous and his full self and isn't addicted anymore to cheating and is a better person. Isn't that a better place to be? Yeah, but it just won't be with, if this was my spouse, it just won't be with me. Oh, you're so fucking funny. Oh, my God. I love having you on because you're still. Go, go fucking learn your lessons and grow with some other person. Okay, it's time for them to put the fucking work into you. I have done it. And I'm getting like, this is a stock I need to

sell. I bought it high. Unfortunately, I'm going to take a loss on it. Top shit. I'm going to take my losses and get the fuck out. No. I love you. Listen, I love your voice. You are a lot of people. That's why I fucking laugh because so many people totally understand. I'm just going to play devil's advocate and say this. A lot of times, the reason why she might be said, you know, listen, she might, you know, I'm sure she probably feels like she wishes she could come from the place that you're coming from right now. It's easy for you to say, It's not your husband, right? But like, you don't know how many kids they have, how invested they are with each other.

You know, a lot of times, you know, you're married to somebody. You know, you're sharing the bills. You're living in a house. You're whole, you know, all your families are intertwined. You have kids and they're still in the house. I mean, you know, leaving someone isn't just so easy just because. And I do know some people work through it. I had one of the best cheating stories ever in my whole fucking life on the other day.

and it was an episode with D-D-D-D. Okay, people should go listen to it because this was a woman who, like, at a certain time of her life, lost some weight in, like, every guy, every 20-something or a guy was hitting her up to fuck her, and she started doing it massively

behind her husband's back. And then he found out, okay? And now they're fucking other people. They work through it. He, like, apologized. It's different than this situation. Like, you know, in his, in her situation, there was problems at home,

and the guy copped to it and took his ownership, and she didn't. They worked through it. And so I give people, credit who do work through stuff like this. This is like to me in this situation with this woman, it's no different than a woman who's married to an alcoholic or a guy hooked on opioids or something. He's addicted. He's got problems. When there's reasons for his problems, I do believe that, you know, in a couple of years, if he continues to work on himself and he really does the work,

he could come out on the other side, a much better person and, you know, they could live 20 more years in a truthful, happy, 10,000 times better relationship. No, because I've changed. You are so optimistic. Listen to you. Like, you are nervous. Did we do a role reversal here? No, I've heard these stories on my show.

And I've lived these stories, Leila. I was a person that was like completely different. And when I quit drinking, it completely changed my life. I went from being one way to being exactly the opposite. So for me, the reason why I'm optimistic and believe that people could change and stuff is because it's happened to me because I've done it. I think a lot of people don't believe other people can because they haven't had those experience in their life. But I watch a lot of biographies. I'm obsessed with reality TV. I watch true stories all the time. Shit like this

happens. And sometimes it is very bottom of the barrel time for somebody, but they can completely change and become a better person and the relationship could be better for it. I've heard those stories. I've seen those stories. It actually absolutely can have. The fact that he's calling into my show, and he's not talking about how hot it was to fuck his niece. He's saying it's therapeutic to say it out loud because he's like, he's like feels guilty about it. He doesn't, he, it doesn't like who he was, but he knows it wasn't right. And I think that that's like huge because some people are doing that and will do that all their life and they fucking wear it as a badge of honor and they could give two shits. This guy knows it's a problem and he's working on it.

Yeah. I. I love you. I love your opposite take, so give it. Yeah, yeah, so let me give you the opposite take. Yeah. Okay. This is something that this guy is heavily entrenched in.

It's, you know, he's old enough. They're old enough that he has a, his wife has a sister or brother who has a child that's old enough for him to fuck. So I'm assuming this isn't a minor. Okay. He also said he's done this hundreds of times. So, and it's something that started in his early, early childhood. So I'm just saying for him, I think that this is really, really ingrained in him. And I think that the probability of him totally doing a 180 is very slim.

Not that it can't happen, but it's very slim. And I would say what would work better is if, first of all, get it all out on the open, get your cards out on the table, be completely honest. If you do want to change, that's great. If not, you know, there's other things short of him just, completely turning away from this type of behavior that maybe would be a better landing place for him and his wife if she wants to maybe she's fine with him having an open relationship. No, of course not.

It doesn't sound like that. Well, we don't, I mean, we don't know what we don't know right now. And I just don't think, I think based on his track record, all these affairs, I just think that this is going to be his one thing. and when you're wired and inclined towards something sexually, it's hard to undo that. But, you know, you think he can. Yes, 100%. I need to tell you, Layla, like,

and I need to give people hope out there, like if they are the person like him, 100%, that's what life is about, completely changing your shit, taking your biggest fucking issues and conquering them and completely reinventing yourself. People do it all the.

time I have done it to myself numerous times. Go listen to my like people of the listening, not you. Listen to my getting sober, you know, fucking episode. When I was younger, I got three thrown out of three fucking high schools. Okay. I was like the baddest, most dysfunctional rudest motherfucker on the planet. Fucking drunk bitch, okay? And I am completely the opposite, okay, person because I conquered my shit and it took me many years and a lot of work, but I did it. And plenty of people do it. Plenty of people have. There's so many success stories out there of people who completely reinvented themselves.

That's what life's about. Okay. And the fact, and this is the last thing I'm going to say about this, I believe always in a person's life, if they got fucking busted like this guy did, then on some part of them was ready to fucking change their game. I'm going to tell you who doesn't change, the people that never get busted. those people don't change. Those people don't want to change. Some part of his subconscious got fucking sloppy

because some part of him was sick of leading a double dysfunctional fucking life. That is exhausting, okay? And so I always say to, you know, my cheaters and people who are living this life in having get caught, the ones I feel bad about it, I'm always like, you better watch the fuck out because what's going to happen is that part of you

that doesn't feel right is going to get yourself caught. So either stop and leave, part of your life with your head held up high or you're going to get busted and still at the end of the day that's going to be the best thing that ever happened to you. So I think there were some part of him in his own life journey that was ready to stop living the lie. That's why he got sloppy subconsciously and that's why this all blow up. It's like an alcoholic that has their fucking bottom. It's time. Tons of people have changed their fucking life. And this guy, this is his opportunity and it 100% can fucking happen.

Nobody listen to Layla, okay? It doesn't matter how old you are. You could completely change your fucking life. It just takes hard work. Like, you know, I quit smoking. And I remember people saying, like, what if, like, you know, like, you're going to quit? Like, what if you can't? I'm like, what do you mean what if I can't?

The question should be like, what if it's really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really hard. Are you still going to do it? That's the fucking question. You could do anything you want, okay? Absolutely. You could fucking change. It's just that you're going to have to do a lot of fucking work. And that's it. As long as he does the work, he could change.

People do it all the time. Look at Robert Downey Jr. There's so many fucking success stories out there. He was a fucking meth head or whatever he was. He's a completely changed. There are so many people that completely changed your life. And I feel hopeful for this guy. Sorry, I do.

No, I don't. I agree with what you said. I just, the only thing I'm saying is the person. percentages of people that actually can turn their lives completely around, you know, it's just a smaller percentage. I'm not saying that he can't do it. I look at, you know, is it likely? And then his wife would have to really figure out, do I want to ride that ride with him? You know, do I want to give him the benefit of the doubt? I will hope for him. You just don't want to be with him.

I will hope for him. Yes. Of course. I will hope for you. Yeah. Yeah, but you don't want to, you would leave it. I'm so hoping the next person you marry doesn't have to put up with this shit. Oh my God, Mike jump. That's that we end it. I love it. You gave such great endings with each one. That was fucking awesome.

Listen, Layla, I love having you on. I love your opposite opinion of mine. Like, it's so fucking entertaining. And I think it's important because I think that there's like, you know, some people are listening to me like right on Kathy. And some people are like, shut the fuck up, Kathy. And some people were like, oh my God, thank God for Layla. You know what I mean?

Like I love your voice. on my show. I don't know what it was, but this time you had so many great, you ended each confession. So like, killer is hilarious. But anyway, give everyone a shot. Give everyone a shout out where they can find you and everything. Your show. Yeah. So I have a show podcast, the Curious Girl Diaries, and you can listen to that wherever you listen to podcasts. It's all about my life from moving away from three and a half year just celibacy to full blown into the lifestyle, investigating all of my kinks and knocking things off my sex bucket list. It's been very fun.

You can also catch up with me at my website where you can link to all my socials. That is the curious girl diaries.com. And I also get people who leave me confessions now inspired by Kathy because we do these episodes together. So people can leave me voicemails if they want to ask me a question about something. Or hey, if you just want to tell me you heard me and you think I'm wrong, I'm up for that too. But easy to do if you go to go to the website. There's a pink time on the right hand side.

you can just leave a voicemail. And I get back to everybody personally. All right. Awesome. Thanks, Leah. Thanks for calling in. Just stay on. Just say bye,

but I just want to ask you a quick question. Thanks, Leah. Thanks for calling in again. All right. See you next week. Bye. Yeah. Thanks for having me.

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