Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 954 - Thomas Loves Sharing his Wife w/Men and Women

Episode Date: October 31, 2024

Thomas (Jade's husband, ep. #582) loves sharing his wife with other men and women and he called in to talk all about it. When did they decide to open up their marriage? Why did they decide to open it ...up? And, where do they meet the men and women they hook up with? Tune in to hear all the details including how and why he always felt insecure in his relationship and how he got past his insecurities, how naughty talk about her ex boyfriends and a trip to a strip club led to them opening up their marriage, how and why they solely hire high end escorts for their threesomes, how the build up and anticipation prior to the actual hook ups is major foreplay for them, why he allows his wife to be the sole picker of the people they hook up with, why and how his main reason for the the hook ups is for his wife’s pleasure, the core memories he has for each one of their hot hook ups and why they all stand out, the first girl they hooked up with and exactly what went down, how she was totally into his wife and how that made him feel, how hot it was for him to watch and why he’s not into being with the woman, how they had sex in front of the escort and how and why they really enjoyed that, the reclaiming sex and how long and hot that is for them and why, the second girl the hired and the strap on sex his wife had with her, the rules they have for their hook-ups and why they work for them, how and why his wife’s role play with a huge dildo got him into wanting to share her with another guy, the first guy they hired and exactly what went down, how seeing his wife with the first guy was super hot and all the things he enjoyed most about it, how and why the reclaiming sex after the guy was different and even better than after the female escorts, the second guy they chose and why they chose him and a whole lot more. REPEAT (Originally aired 1/2023) **To see pics of THOMAS'S WIFE JADE + anonymous pics of most of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confesss while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:04:30 Okay. Well, her husband was supposed to come on the show together with her, but he called in separate. And let me tell you, he does not disappoint. Now, if you haven't heard Jade's episode, go listen to it. It's just as interesting and totally different because Jade's story is from the female's perspective, how she felt being with another woman, how she felt with being with other men in front of her husband and all that kind of good stuff
Starting point is 00:04:53 and what got her off and what she was turned on by. And this episode is all about all of those situations, but from the guy's point of view. And what's interesting about Thomas's, his name was Thomas, did I say that yet? Thomas's point of view is that he was not the typical guy that you would think would be like, oh, let's open up our relationship and fuck other people.
Starting point is 00:05:15 I mean, this guy was very insecure. He really felt like when he hooked up with Jade that he got like the best girl he could ever get. He was always paranoid. She'd go for someone better or leave him for someone else. And now here the same guy is letting his wife fuck like hotter guys on him with bigger dicks, big muscle guys. And he explains the hookups in detail. He gets very graphic. and I think his story is just as interesting as his wife's story, but different.
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Starting point is 00:06:07 Hi, Thomas. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you today? Yeah, good. Thank you. Thanks for having me all. on very excited. I had your wife on recently.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Her name was Jade. She was on to talk about the fact that you guys recently opened up your relationship. You're seeing escorts, only escorts that works for you guys, which I thought was an interesting angle. High-end escorts, you go for the best. She gets hot guys. I mean, she sent me pictures. Yes, she does.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Yeah. And you went from being, I think, from what I remember, you went from being a very jealous guy to a guy that, like, loves to see his girl with other guys. So that's the story I want to hear about, from you, because, you know, you didn't come on that first episode. We already heard from her experience. But what about the guy, you know, what made you want to open up your relationship? And then how did you go from being jealous to being turned on? Yeah, like, it's a really good question.
Starting point is 00:07:04 And it's something that I've thought about a lot. But it's hard to put in words, but I'll do my best. it's when you're with somebody like I don't know you've seen her pictures like she's amazingly beautiful she's a 10 out of 10 I'm not a 10 out of 10 I'm you know six or seven at best and to get someone like her like a dream come true like you know it's a it's really amazing and you've got someone like that and you don't think you deserve her like we were friends and it was like because we worked together and that was it and I was like I didn't think she had any interest in me whatsoever and you know things happen and then all of a sudden you're in the situation
Starting point is 00:07:45 like well this is just crazy and I've only had previously like one partner before her so I'm very inexperienced and I've got this beautiful person who everyone's running after and it's like well how did this happen and you become insecure at first because you're not sure where it's got to go and you don't want to lose it so that's like where I started so what you're saying is even be way before any of this started, you started off this relationship, insecure, kind of in every way. I mean, you were just paranoid that you weren't good enough in bed. You were paranoid that she would not stay with you because you weren't good enough. And so it is interesting to go all the way from that to where you are now.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Yeah. And look, you ask anyone who knows me, that's like who I am. I'm that quiet guy that everyone might know, but, you know, no one calls up and wants to go out with. I'm that quiet guy. He might be around and they're like, oh, yeah, he's around. So I'm not that overpowering person. And, you know, she's very outgoing, draws attention wherever she goes.
Starting point is 00:08:51 You know, she's the center of attention. And that's good because I don't want that attention. And I'm happy for her to have it. But then all of a sudden, as this new relationship, she's getting attention from other guys. And it's intimidating. It's like, well, why is she even with me? So it took a lot of years of trust and to be built up and everything.
Starting point is 00:09:11 to get to where we are now. Right, because how do you go from the guy that's super jealous to letting her fuck other guys that are hot as shit, okay, in front of you bigger dicks than you, you know? Yeah, that's it. And it's like, and it's, you know, I don't know, a lot of people might think about this
Starting point is 00:09:29 and say, how does that happen? But if you love someone and you trust someone, it's not an issue. And I think like over the years, you know, you have all these life experiences with people, and your love gets deeper and it matures. And it's like, well, this isn't going to stop now. Like, this is real.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Like, the feeling is mutual, which is, you know, I think a really hard thing to accept when you don't have a lot of confidence. Well, what you're saying is that this would have never worked for you guys in the beginning, because in the beginning you were too insecure. You had to get to a place where you were secure that your girl was there to stay.
Starting point is 00:10:13 And I think that that's the same with everybody. I don't recommend opening up. I mean, some people just go into relationships completely open right from the get-go. And they're good to go. But I think sometimes if you're going to change things up, I think it's much better to build that foundation with the two people first. Because I think the biggest fear everybody has is that if you open it up, someone's going to go with someone else and it'll eventually take them away from you.
Starting point is 00:10:38 that would be my fear. That is my greatest fear. Yeah. At the beginning, it's like, what does she find someone who's better? What happens if they're a better fit, if they're more compatible? And so all these things go
Starting point is 00:10:52 into your head. And to be honest, they always are still there to a degree, but they're not a main focus anymore. Yeah, but let me just ask you this, because the way you got talking about opening up your relationship is you were just fantasizing about things together. We feel. Sexualizing.
Starting point is 00:11:08 We do a lot of role playing, a lot. And we got to a point where I was asking a lot about her ex-partners. And, like, you know, tell me what happened. How did you do him? Was he good? Was he not? Whatever. And we found that.
Starting point is 00:11:26 It was like a bit of a turn on. And she said to me, like, she mentioned in her cast, like, she had a trisome years and years ago before she met me. And she mentioned it, like, maybe three years into our relationship. and I never really mentioned against because I don't want to talk about it. But as we progressed in the bedroom, I go, let's revisit this. And we revisit it and we was like, well, this is really hot. And like, this is what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:11:51 It's like, you know, you walk into a couple and they're like, come and join me. He's like, this is like an every guy's fantasy. So from there, we started using that and using ex-boyfriends and everything to see what's, you know, in the bedroom and the different scenarios. and we liked it. So it sort of was like a natural progression. Yeah, but do you think that you took your intense insecurity and took that energy and created it, like it turned it into a turn on as opposed to insecurity?
Starting point is 00:12:25 Is that what happened? Because how does the guy that is so, like your biggest fear is that she's going to tell, on some level, I would think a guy that's super insecure that he's with a girl that's out of his league. The biggest fear is she's going to tell you about an X that's hot or better, best sex, and it's going to make you feel worse. But somehow it made you feel corny. But she did initially, and it didn't make me feel great. So initially she would say that, like, you know, some of the people in her past were really good.
Starting point is 00:12:53 And she would say, I know, we had sex in a cinema and we did this, you know, had sex in a playground at night. We'd like, all these crazy things. And it's like, oh, we haven't done. too many crazy things. Like we did a lot, but not that level. And I was like, oh, tell me more. And I sort of sort of came from, she used to always say that and be in the back of your head to a point where we're really good in our lives and our relationship was really strong. And it's like, well, tell me more about when you're happy in your memorable experiences and let's make our sort of thing. So we sort of drew on what she liked in the past and then sort of pushed it forward
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Starting point is 00:15:03 thank Blue Chew for sponsoring the podcast in the past and then sort of pushed it forward into the future and made it our own. But so take me into that first time. Was she with, I forget, was she with a girl? So when did you decide like, okay, I'm secure enough to handle actually seeing you with someone else? Okay. So I think the point was we did a lot of role playing and we went to a strip club one night. And I think it was my wife's birthday. And we, we, got lap dances from the skill. She did. I go, let's why you're a lap dance. She got a lap dance and then Mike want to see me with the left dancer and we got a lap dance. And we came from that experience really frustrated. We wanted more. And the lap dance, you know, you can't do anything,
Starting point is 00:15:49 you can't touch. It was really hot and it's like, I want to see this but real, not, you know, fake, you know, can't touch, can't do anything sort of situation. So we went home. I went back to the hotel and we had like the best sex of our lives after that situation. And like, this is a major turn on for both of us. So how do we do, how do we go to the next step? And how do we do it sort of safely was our concern. Right. And that's where the transactional hiring of somebody felt the most safe for the both of you.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Yeah, 100%. And I think also keeping back of the mind, I'm insecure. sure, if it's a transaction in our minds, I feel like there's less chance of anything happening, if that makes sense. She's not going to fall in love with the escort. Or she might, but it's very unlikely that they've got to run off and get married and have kids. Yeah, there's also unlikely that he's going to fall for her or she's going to fall for you because they have other clients.
Starting point is 00:16:52 I mean, I totally understand why your mind could. Yes, absolutely. So my mind all of a sudden is a lot less stressed. No, this is this is fine. Like that's not going to happen. What's the chances of this going to happen? It's not going to. So you took that through your head and then we've said, look, everything that's led up to this is great.
Starting point is 00:17:13 And I think a lot of people sort of don't talk about, but for us, the build up to, you know, the MFM and the Thracemps and all that is the best part. And probably the sex afterwards, right? The sex afterwards is great. But before, the whole teasing and getting there and being excited and being nervous, it's amazing feeling. And you have so much sex. It's ridiculous. Like we would be doing like two, three times a day. And, you know, we're 12, 13 years into our marriage.
Starting point is 00:17:48 It's like, it's crazy. And it's this energy you feed off these other people and the anticipation. Yeah. It's the whole thing. It's all about, well, I know. planning doesn't sound sexy but it is it's like oh we got the hotel room this is the hotel room this is really not this is the day let's pick someone and you go through it and you see who your wife likes and he she doesn't like and what she didn't talk about is she has a hundred percent
Starting point is 00:18:14 control of who she picks and everything I don't push anyone I don't suggest anyone unless it's really bad and I'm like oh not them I think I've only done that once it's like not that guy and that's it she controls it everything. What was the one time? What was wrong with the one guy that you said not? Oh, he looked really aggressive. Oh, okay. Interesting. And I thought, if someone looks that aggressive, I find that I'm not a big guy. I don't know. If things don't go right or we don't like him, we're asking him to leave, he just didn't look like that guy that would sort of listen to you. Yeah, listen, I think it's important to follow your instinct, your gut instinct, you know? Yeah. And I don't think my wife wanted to pick him either,
Starting point is 00:18:59 but we just said, I'm going to rule this guy out. But she has complete control. The girl, she looks, and it's the biggest turn on. Your wife's there next to you looking for a girl to play with. Or your wife's there next to you looking for a guy to play with. It's really hot. And you get to see her and you see just smile and giggle and happy and upbeat. It's amazing.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Right. Seeing her get turned on is a big part of it for you. My thing is her pleasure. And we've always said that. Like whenever we get somebody there, the focus is on her, what she wants. That's it. Don't worry about me. I'm just there for the ride.
Starting point is 00:19:38 I want her to be overjoyed, overwhelmed. This is all about her. Right. Even if it's another partner with them. I mean, tell me that first time it happened that you see her, even with a girl. Because I don't know. I think some guys will even say they don't even want, even though everyone thinks, oh, two girls and a guy is every guy's fantasy. some guys that I know
Starting point is 00:20:00 I'm friends with a lot of guys would be like I'd be too fucking jealous I don't even want to see my girl with a girl You know Yeah no it's funny you say that the first girl That we got She was like in love with my life Like she couldn't keep her hands off her Like we had her like an hour and a half
Starting point is 00:20:16 It took a five minutes and she was like Saying let's get in the bedroom now She was like licking her Kissing her Groping her She was like fully turned on by my life And that was hot and scary all at once.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Really? It was like, it was an overload of like, well, this girl's really into her. And I was like, I wasn't expecting that. And I was like, it's really hot. And it's like, you know, and it's hard to say, but it's like a fear and excitement. Like you're right on the edge and you don't know where this is going to go, especially the first time. I'm really nervous.
Starting point is 00:20:51 And I have like key, I call it like core memories to my wife. I say to it, each person we have, there's a core memory. And my core memory with the first girl is that both like, the girl's like, let's get into the bedroom now. There's like 10 minutes in. And they're both like on the bed and they're like ripping off each other's clothes. It was the hottest image. It's burnt into my head forever.
Starting point is 00:21:17 I particularly didn't even like the first girl at all. I think she wasn't my time at all. She wasn't anything. But that image is. So burnt in, it's the biggest turn on. And I just remember that and it was like so hot. Then taking each other's dresses off, ripping them off. Like, this isn't like, unzipping.
Starting point is 00:21:38 I was like, for one, rip it off their tops and just go for it. Right. Yeah, you're getting more descriptive than your girl, which we like. Yeah, no. She doesn't like that. She's not like that. I've got the photographic memory. Most women aren't.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Most women don't show up with like really dirty details. a lot of times guys are more expressive about those kinds of things though, but I like to have both on because you get a different point of view, like, look, I'm hearing the same story, but it's very different coming from you than her. Oh, it'd be very different from me
Starting point is 00:22:07 from what she remembers and takes out of it because, like, you know, she was fixated on her the problem with the smell, but it wasn't really an issue with us. Like, from me, my point of view was an issue because I'm watching these to like make out and I've never seen my life even kiss me like this. This was like, whoa, this is full.
Starting point is 00:22:26 on. This is like built up tension for the last maybe two, three months of us planning it and then everything coming to a head. Like everything just erupts. It was amazing. It was animalistic. It was everything you could imagine it was going to be in that first
Starting point is 00:22:42 30 minutes. It was like great. Wow. And I guess it's because like you said you had it's kind of like if all the buildup and everything was one night of sacks. I mean you had foreplay for months beforehand. Yeah. And it doesn't go, ever you plan it, it never goes how it's planned.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Right. And we've learned that. And you have all these plans and we plan at all these scenarios and it never ends like that. But it's always fun and it's always good. And you know, who knows which way is better. Right. So, and you got to experience all those ways. Because if you're good enough, that role playing, it could almost feel very real if you got a fucking imagination.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Do you know what I mean? Role playing is fun. Yeah. It is a lot of fun. And we go, yeah, I think we do it really well. Right. You both have good imagination. So you remember the thing you remember the most about is that beginning scenario.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Yeah. Yeah. And then the bit that I think was the hardest is when she went down on my wife. Because that's the first time I really think intimacy with another person on that level. Yeah. And I think that's a really hard thing to get your head around. And this is maybe where we all were worried about. And I remember I had to leave the room for like a minute, compose myself and go,
Starting point is 00:23:54 and just sort of remind yourself what's going on. It's like, this is just fun. Yeah. Like, I know it's a bad way to say this, but we trick the escorts as an extension of our fun. Mm-hmm. They're like a new toy for her. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:09 And so you have to get into that mindset and say, yeah, that's what's happening. This is hot. Like, this is like every guy's fantasy. And my wife was like enjoying it. Like, she's really loud. She didn't tell you it, but she's loud. And she was like, you won't want to be in the next room.
Starting point is 00:24:26 She was screaming. And this, this girl ate her out so well. Like, I've never, like, better than anyone ever has. Like, better than me. I'm freaking. I'm pretty good at that. But she, like, taught me things. It was amazing.
Starting point is 00:24:39 And she's like, funny thing is, she goes, she stops, like, five minutes. And she's like, she's so juicy. And I was like, what? And she's like, yeah, she's so wet. And it was like, oh. And that was like a huge turn on. My wife's like really wet. She's eating her out and she's moaning like there's no tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:25:00 It was hot. So wait, did you go back in? Because you said you left the room for a minute. I just left. I got a drink. Yeah. Like two minutes composed myself. They're going at it.
Starting point is 00:25:09 And I came back in. So the first time I was just there meant to watch. And that's all I wanted to do. Yeah. You have fun with the girl. I get to watch. I can it's hot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:19 My wife's really greedy. she goes she you know halfway through it she's like come join i was like no no no no and she's you know and i join sort of as i think she sort of talks to like i get get on and my wife like blows me while she's eating and out by the by the escort and it's like super hot super erotic and then my wife this girl couldn't keep her hands off my wife and every two seconds she's like making out with it and like in like you know my wife's giving me attention and then the She's, like, fighting for my wife's attention. And again, a little bit overwhelming, but really hot as I reflect on it.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, this girl was so into her. It's like, she didn't like that my wife was giving me attention. She wanted the attention back. So it was really hot. Yeah. And from that experience, I've always said that I'm not interested in other women. I don't want to do anyone.
Starting point is 00:26:16 My wife thinks it's a big con. I think I hear that all the time. They always think, we all we want you to do guys. because you want to do a girl or I want you to do a girl and secretly I want to do the girl. I was like it's never been here. You got control. You pick the people like this person. Oh, I never repeat.
Starting point is 00:26:31 But, you know, you get who you want. So this isn't for me. And, you know, my wife's joined in, like getting me involved. And it's like, oh, I'm happy to watch. And like, they both like give me a blowjob. And my wife's amazing at it. Like, it's her secret talent. And we're paying all this money for this girl.
Starting point is 00:26:48 And like, you know, they're like sharing me. And she's really bad at it. I was like, oh, she's just not into me, but she's so into my wife. She doesn't want to do this. This is like her price she has to pay because we're paying her. And then she's like stopping like after one second and going straight back to my wife. And my wife's like, no, do this. And it's quite funny, but it's like, here you've got this person who just finds your wife
Starting point is 00:27:12 as attractive as I do. And I think that's really hot. And I think as you your mind accepts everything and understanding this is all how. happening. It's a really major turn on to seeing someone seize your wife or your partner or whoever in the same light as you do. Right. So you were able to get turned on by that as well. Oh yeah. And then after that like I, my wife's like how do I finish this? And my wife's like, I want you to do me. And it's like, oh, okay, but she's here. And it's like we've never had sex in front of anyone before. We've done it a few times outside and it's been really hot and like maybe being caught.
Starting point is 00:27:54 I was like, but we've never done it in front of anyone else. And then we did and I was amazing. And the girl was like, you know, I'm doing my wife doggy style and she's like making out with her and I can just seem like overjoyed with pleasure and it was really hot. So even though the first experience for my wife wasn't great in her words. Sounds great from your way. It was amazing. It was.
Starting point is 00:28:18 And it wasn't great maybe because it didn't go. exactly how we had planned. You know, she was a little bit smelly. But, you know, our plan wasn't to pleasure her. The plan was to pleasure my wife. Yeah. And that's what we did. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:30 And we achieved it. Our plan wasn't to pleasure her. The plan was to pleasure my wife. Yeah. And that's what we did. Yeah. And we achieved it. And also you got pleasured.
Starting point is 00:28:40 I mean, come on. It's not like you're not getting anything. Yeah. I mean, that's the added bonus. Yeah. That's right. And that wasn't planned and wasn't expected. And it was a huge bonus.
Starting point is 00:28:50 And then, once, you know, we finish, we try and get rid of her. And this girl's, like, so in love with my wife. She's not leaving. Come on. Can you go? She might have been only into girls, that girl, not guys. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Look, I don't know. Yeah, anyway. But she was into my wife. That's for sure. Like, if I wasn't there, she would have been even happier. So we're trying to get rid of it because the thing that my wife didn't talk about it all was the reclaiming process. And this is so hard to describe.
Starting point is 00:29:24 The sex we had after she left was even better. And like, how does it get better? It just does. It was so raw and animalistic and not and sensual and everything. It's like everything all in one. And it's crazy. And that happens all night. It doesn't like this feeling goes away.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Like, you know, sometimes, you know, you come off the high. You come and that's it. You go to sleep. This is like again and again and again and again. This is like so turned on. Everything's at its max and it's heightened and it stays hardened. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure you're making people think to themselves like, I want to go try this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:06 It's so hard to describe it if you haven't done it. And it's like, look, I never thought if you told like the 12-year-old puberty kid of me, his fantasizing that this would happen, I would never believe you. And then, you know, you say, oh, that's only, you know, for movies or whatever. And then when it does happen, it's amazing. That's even more amazing than what you could imagine. There's a whole reclaiming thing and getting back connected with your wife is what you want. And then you're like, she's there at the end of the night and she's with me.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Everyone else is left, but there she's laying next to me in my arms. And that I think is like the most, you know, calming and beautiful thing at the whole end of it. And that's what really helped with us going to the next level, which was the guy. Yeah. Tell me about that. Or do you want to tell me about the second girl? Or did you do the guy next? Oh, the second girl was like amazing.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Like she wasn't as into my wife as that, but she was a bit more into me. What was the thing that stood out for that experience? He said there's always one thing. There's always one. Yeah. Which would be the strap on that the girl you, the escort used on my wife. I thought it was really hot. And then my wife wanted to give it a go.
Starting point is 00:31:21 And she's always like, I always want to try a strap on. I'm like, you're not doing that to me. So here's your chance. And she had to go. And then I go, and it was hard. Watching her like pound another girl, I thought it was really hot. It's like a different side of her. It's a different, like it's a more empowering side.
Starting point is 00:31:40 And it was really hot. And the girl also, and the escort also fucked her with the strap on too. She did as well, yeah. And that was hot as well. My wife didn't like it as much, so I thought it was hot, but it didn't last very long. She didn't like it. That one was a lot more cohesive. The girl was great.
Starting point is 00:31:58 And I think what my wife didn't say anything about this, but like I said, my wife gets carried away all the time. And we have rules. And one of the rules is she's not allowed to kiss guys on the lips, but she can kiss girls on the lips. That's not a problem. So no guys on the lips, no anal. by anyone and that they're pretty much our rules. That's it.
Starting point is 00:32:22 And that's it. Two rules. And we've always said that I'm not interested in doing any girls. I don't want to do any girls. My wife's like, oh, what about blowjob? I go blowjob, that's it. Nothing else. And we're having such a great night.
Starting point is 00:32:38 My wife's like, you need to like do the escort. You need to now. And I'm like, hold on, hold on. This isn't not what I, this is not what we discussed. or anything. This isn't, we're not going to break out rules mid-time we're doing it.
Starting point is 00:32:53 And I think having the escort there, she's like, hold on, you guys told me you didn't want this. I'm not comfortable. And it was really good that she, like,
Starting point is 00:33:01 backed me up. Because I think if I did do it, if my wife, you know, presided me into it and we actually, it actually happened. I don't know if that night
Starting point is 00:33:09 would have been as successful as it would have been. How do you know? Why, you think that maybe she would have got jealous or she would have freaked out? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:33:16 I don't think she would have liked. liked it. Not at all. Right. Well, I'm going to talk to you guys two years from now and you're going to have no fucking rules. Okay. That's what's going to happen. Yeah, probably. But for now, I think that those rules and boundaries and all that stuff is very good to have in place while you're you know, dipping your toes in the water and figuring things out. Yeah, I think so. And it's like a security blanket. Like this is, if we follow these rules, we know that we're behaving and we're not getting completely lost in the moment. Yeah, absolutely. And I think to lose complete control, I think would be scary because like I said, I don't want to lose it.
Starting point is 00:33:49 And she loses a complete control. What's going to happen? But in saying that, we lose a lot of control. But you're always conscious of what you're doing. No, but I'm just going to tell you that most people that I know that open their marriage up. I hear stories at all parts of the book, you know, like I hear it at the beginning. I hear people's stories in the middle. And I hear a lot of people's stories about swinging or an opening up really.
Starting point is 00:34:16 at the end. And I would say you guys are very much at the beginning. This is the first couple of chapters. So you have all these rules. Everybody has them in the beginning. But successful people that do it for a long time and it becomes like the lifestyle, none of them have those rules anymore. Like they eventually go out. And if you think about it, it makes sense because you, you, the more you do it, the more comfortable you are. So you don't have to have that much control over the situation. It makes sense that you have them now and it makes sense that everybody has them, but it also makes sense that if you wind up being successful at it, three years from now, you most likely won't have those rules. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, no, I agree with that 100%.
Starting point is 00:34:59 But I think each successful encounter, you get more confidence. Yeah. Not just within yourself, but also within the relationship. So, okay, we're testing this relationship. It's really strong. We've built it up. It's been great for nine years that we were, monogamous and monogamy and now we're pushing those boundaries and opening it and it's like you have to sort of test the waters first you can't just jump straight into the deep bend and I think we we use we use that cautious approach I know some people don't but you know no I think it's smart we've got a we've got a lot on a lot on um what do you call a lot at stake here like you know we've got we've got a child we've got a house we've got jobs we got everything the whole life that we've built together I don't
Starting point is 00:35:45 We don't want to throw that away. Just for like, right, not just to get off one night. It's definitely not worth it, for sure. No, I think, I think everything that you guys do is very smart and thought out. And I think people could learn because some people aren't as thoughtful and thought out and think things through as much. So I think stories like yours is very helpful for other people because they might be like, oh, I never thought maybe using escorts was good because of that reason. Or, you know, I never realized I should make rules for.
Starting point is 00:36:15 because whatever, you know, and a lot of people just want to jump in, but I think yours is a good story, especially because you're only in the beginning chapters, you know, for people that are at that place too, are wanting to be there and they're wanting to start because they could really learn from you. So get back to that girl's story. So she, that was like good. The one thing you remember from that one was the strap on, right? So now get to the guy. You were going to get to the guy, right? So that was such a success. So we're like, let's go. to the next step. I go, I really want to see you with the guy. So we listen, we listen to, like, other podcasts and stuff, and we've hear everyone talk about it.
Starting point is 00:36:55 And we're like, we really should try it now. I'm like, I think this is it. Now, this is a whole other thing for you. It is. Because it's a guy. It is. And you're the guy. And you're in, you know, used to be insecure. So this is probably a big step for you, correct? Oh, yeah, it is. And it's nervous. Like, it's nerve-wracking. And I think, all these things are always nervous beforehand. There's always an anxiety or a nervous tension. And I think if I didn't get that, I wouldn't do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Because then it loses this pizzazz. Like, you know, you lose what makes it so amazing. So I said, we talk about it. We do a lot of role playing. And my life's like, oh, I don't know. And I think the point where we sort of work where I said, I really want, this is it. This is where we've got to jump in. One night, we, like, you know, we're vanilla, but I'm not vanilla.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Like, my wife ties me up one night, and she's got, like, a dildo that connects to a chair. And she ties me up, and she does this dildo in front of me. And it's, like, huge while I'm tied up, and she makes me watch. And I was, like, dying. You know, I'm ready to explode. All I'm doing is watching her. And, like, this is so hot. I go, this is what we've talked about.
Starting point is 00:38:15 this isn't a person this is just an object and I'm so turned on and I'm like that night we're like let's do it we've got to do a guy after that night that was the moment you know she teased me she did everything right that's a good role play yeah that's a good role play to kind of test the waters to see is that something that you're turned on like yeah like you know maybe you would have saw her like fucking this big dick and you're like no I can't that's too much you know but you if anything it turned you on and what a great... Turn me on something shocking. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Yeah. And like, we always say like, your dick doesn't lie. And she's like, do you like, I go? Look at this. And she's like, yeah, okay. So she's like turned on by. I'm so turned on by it.
Starting point is 00:39:03 I'm like, we need to get a guy. Let's do it. And a part of this roleplay, if I just want to ask you real quick, a part of this roleplay is that it's something very big, bigger than you. That's a part of it, correct? So my thing is, I don't want you to do a guy that looks like me. You can just do me.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Yeah. Like, if you're going to do something, do something, it needs to be like something different. Yes. So, you know, I'm like, you know, average height, so a guy, medium build. I'm not muscle league at all. I've got a dad bod. You know, I'm all right down there, but I'm not, you know, porn-style level. And I say, like, if we're going to do this, do what you want.
Starting point is 00:39:44 we need someone who's bigger than me and something that's different to me. So it's either got to be someone who's really muskly or someone who's really skinny. And I was like, my wife doesn't want that. So it would be the mussely one. And I was like, okay, so this is what we've got to do. And this is what we've got to set out and look for. And there's a lot of planning involved again. So we need to sort of work out who we've got to connect with, who are not.
Starting point is 00:40:08 You know, we bought only fan subscriptions to people to see what that actually looked like. we read testimonies that made sure they did couples we spoke to them and said this is what we want and initially the first guy that build up like you know i talked about the girls built up the guy built up was even better and it's a weird sensation to say that like my wife enjoyed the girls but she wasn't satisfied by the girls right and this is it this is my thing i want to see her pleasure i want to see her satisfied so that's That's the next step. Now, how did you feel when she was, because I know you guys go looking through the pictures
Starting point is 00:40:48 and stuff, how did you feel? Like I said, you said you felt giddy and it was like hot to see her looking at the girls. Did you have that same experience when she was looking at the guys? Yeah. Yeah. And the guys turned her on and it made her horny and I was a benefit from it. So again, we're having lots of sex.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Like twice a day, every day, she's turned on. She's sending me pictures. She's talking about it. She's making scenarios up. I'm making scenarios up. It's a real turn on it. And I was like, again, and she's like, I'm not sure if we should do it or not. But look at the pre before everything's coming.
Starting point is 00:41:28 It's like a huge buildup again. It's like the girls, but even better. And I think the excitement of her, I don't, how did I say this? I wanted to see her overwhelmed. Mm-hmm. And I think she had a real good time with the two girls, but she wasn't overwhelmed with pleasure and ecstasy, and she wasn't, you know, floating. You know, afterwards, the reclaim is great, and she floats after that. But when something else was this missing.
Starting point is 00:42:01 And I think this is where the guys came in. And, you know, my wife, like she said to you, she doesn't call, you know, she's into, she's straight, but a little bit by, like she likes girls on the waist up. so now there's someone that she can like the whole body and you know the whole thing and let's see how that goes so the only rule there going in just to remind everybody is just no kissing and no anal kissing on the lips you can kiss body parts whatever yeah and no anal yeah okay so we after looking we find this guy and she's like smitten on him they're like okay and we like buy his only fans and his things looks huge and my wife's got a real thing about hard dick's like you have to be rock hard like that's funny rock hard if it's not rock hard she's like no like no half no flask you know
Starting point is 00:42:54 semi-erection it's like don't don't bother me it's like it has to be rock okay and we watch this guy's video and he's not really rock hard and she's like and she's I'm in an a r and about she's like I like everything about him it's huge but she's not he's not really rock hard and I think yeah I know, but he's also filming on a camera for somebody and stuff. You know, maybe he's nervous. You don't know what's happened. So we take the plunge and we book this guy and very nervous. So the girls was nerve wracking.
Starting point is 00:43:26 The second one went really great. We weren't as nervous. But the guy was like back to the girls super nervous, you know, pacing around the hotel room and stuff like that. And he says he's arrived and I didn't really want to go down to meet him. I wanted to send her. I go, that would be hot. She's like, I don't feel safe. I was like, okay, if you don't feel safe, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:43:47 I'll come with you. So we came, went downstairs, and this moment is one of my core memories. We meet this guy and he like, I fucks my wife. I think he was really surprised at what she'd look like that she's hot. Yeah. And this isn't his normal day. I have pictures. You got me new picks of her on,
Starting point is 00:44:07 new pitch, yeah. Yeah, even better picks, more picks on my Patreon. I'll tell. Yeah, go on. So this guy like, I raped and I'm a bit uncomfortable. I was like, okay, we'll see how this goes. And we went upstairs and my wife's like super quiet. And that could be two things. My life goes really quiet when she's really happy and excited.
Starting point is 00:44:28 And, um, or she's scared. And, you know, like, you know, she told her, I pulled her aside and she was like, yeah, okay. Yeah, she gave me the thumbs up. And, you know, we spoke to this guy for eight. because we're super nervous. She was really standoffish with him to begin with because I think she was scared and like we're all nervous and like I don't know it was like 40 minutes in and I'm like are we got to do something or what and like yeah yeah let's do it. So we went into the bedroom and I think my life sort of explained this the guy goes we said we don't want anything rough
Starting point is 00:45:06 it's all about her pleasure and I'm just going to watch. So I like my my father always used to make jokes like, well, we're role playing that you can sit in the corner and you can watch me. And she said this for years and years. And then I was like, it's coming to reality, which is pretty funny. Yeah. But also hot. Like, this is what we've talked about for all these years. I'm sitting here and I'm watching the guy's giving her a massage.
Starting point is 00:45:27 And my wife just looks at me and she's like, his thing's rock hard. And like, obviously he's like pressing up against her back while he's massaging her. And I can see her really happy. And like, she just goes, it's rock hard and she's like smiling. Like, oh, great. This is going good. Like, she's happy with it. And then the whole night was like perfect. She turns around and gives him like the most loving blowjob I've ever seen her give. And it was so erotic and so hot. And I was amazing. And I looked at and I said to her like halfway for her, that's really loving. And she's like, it's amazing dick. And I was like, yeah, it's impressive. This guy was huge. I don't think she. She sort of talked about it, like, this guy was huge and thick, and it's like, I think I've ever seen in real life. And I was like, this is going to be good.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Hopefully she can take this. This guy's huge. And the memory, the core memory with this is, like, she blows in for a bit, he fingers there, and she comes, and she asked me to come over, and I'm, like, I'm holding her and talking to her through it. And, like, at any stage you want to stop, you can stop. And she's like, no, no, I'm liking this. and then the guy's like okay he's happy for me to go he was really good he read the room really well
Starting point is 00:46:44 he's really um what's the word uh he was really polite and courteous to like my needs and make sure i was feeling comfortable throughout the whole thing and the core memory here is when he first like penetrates her as like stuck in my mind it is hot yeah i mean that's a big thing first really turned on Yeah. And this is, this is maybe like, I'm worried she's got to leave. Yeah. And that's, and like, I'm right there watching it right next to my wife. And this is just her face and the joy and the pleasure, like, was amazing.
Starting point is 00:47:23 And, you know, it wasn't rough or anything. It was really, this guy knew what he was doing. And this guy continues to, like, fuck my wife for a good 40 minutes. I can't do that. continuous for 40 minutes. This was a like this guy's a pro. Yeah, he's giving her a show. He really put on a show.
Starting point is 00:47:45 And she was just like over the moon. So he's like she's on her back and doing her and she's like giving me a blowjob and she's like just looking at me and she's like this is so good. I was like, okay, good. And like just amazing. Like
Starting point is 00:48:05 that memory of that and then he turns and he does it all different ways and at some states they do doggy and like I said my wife's really loud and she was like screaming and the guy had to stop halfway and he goes is she right I go yeah I go can't you tell yeah she's really wet but I don't you go like she's really loud I go oh she's always like this yeah this is a good thing this is good and he does it really really well You know, like, to give you like an example, like, you know, when we're doing, we're doing doggy, like, she's on all fours. When it gets really good, her front, like, drops down. So just, like, bum in the air, like, you know, arms down, bums up.
Starting point is 00:48:50 And she went, like, into that position. And he's like, oh, she's right. I got, yeah, keep going, don't stop. And he didn't. And she was, like, having the best time of her life having multiple orgasms to the point where, like, she couldn't move. And it was amazing. And this night just kept going like this. And then I really like to be, and I'm watching all this,
Starting point is 00:49:14 and she's including me to a part, like, give her blow drops or like just touching me up. And I'm like making out with her. So it's really hot. And at one stage I go to her, can you get on top of it? I want to see that. Because I like when my wife's on top. I like her to take control and, you know, take charge. she doesn't like it a lot.
Starting point is 00:49:37 We both like the other person to be in charge. So it's a fun. It's an odd mix. But, you know, we take turns. I like, just do it. And she's like, oh, I don't know. Anyway, she does. And again, like, this guy's thing's so big.
Starting point is 00:49:50 And, like, the view was amazing. She takes it all. And the hottest thing here, she makes this guy come. And, like, they've been doing it for, like, 40 minutes. And the guy's like, is it all right if I come? And she's like, yeah, do it, do it. it and those words like come inside me were so hot can't get it out of mine mine and that memory is always like a go-to memory this was like amazing like this is like the best right this is like
Starting point is 00:50:20 your faith this is it this is like the pinnacle and this guy's amazing so respectful is this the famous guy that i know like we're not going to mention the names but she sent me a picture i'm like i mention the name but let's just paint the picture because i've seen it there's a guy. This isn't the famous one. Oh, this isn't the famous one. Okay. So there, but he's, he's hot.
Starting point is 00:50:42 He's very well hung too. Kind of like the other guy, musly and big. Because I saw a picture of one of them. Yeah. More hung than the other guy. Yeah. This guy was amazing. And like I said, he was really respectful.
Starting point is 00:50:54 He knew how to read the room. He knew how to read the room. If you wanted someone to do your wife, this is the guy who you wanted to do. Like, he was like perfect. Let me ask you this. Did you have, because you guys, like to be watched. Did you have sex with her in front of him too? Was that
Starting point is 00:51:09 a part of it? No. No. I didn't. I think for the fact that she got fucked so much, right. 40 minutes. It was like, you know, this big thing. She was like, yeah. And then he like left and then the reclaiming, amazing.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Again, complete different type of feeling after it. And we did like, I think we did like six times. in five hours. It was like amazing. And we didn't sleep. And we were just on cloud night. And it could have been a better experience.
Starting point is 00:51:43 And like all those people who, that nervous tension obviously dissipate and turns into enjoyment and you're all like bottled up and it just can let go and everything works. It's like the pure ecstasy. It's amazing. So that guy was like perfect for us. Did you use it? again or you wound up using someone else right did you ever see that guy again we're going to go see
Starting point is 00:52:10 this the first guy again we're in the we're in the plans of making a booking now yeah um we think uh the second guy we only changed because we wanted to film it and the second guy allowed filming oh i remember that's the reason why we changed so you wanted it you wanted a visual in my head it's amazing as like I need that on tape yeah like this is like I'm like I'm you know I don't know words kind of describe it I guess and I wanted to keep that in you know save that memory but when we're old and like look at this do you remember this not sort of thing so like let's tape it and that's why we use the other guy but obviously that one didn't go as well but do you have a take-home moment of that one I remember I don't oh yeah that no they're
Starting point is 00:53:03 There is. Like, with all of them, there's good and bad in all. But I think the two middle ones, there weren't really bad moments in them. Right. So it really depends on who you pick. And I think, and this is, I guess, like, the gamble with everything. And I think one of the main gambles we get, and why we don't use, like, dating apps or, you know, those apps or go to clubs or anything like that. But third person you introduce into your relationship, they need to be able to read the room really well.
Starting point is 00:53:33 and be not the center of attention. And I don't, like, how do you tell, like, a stranger that isn't a transaction? It's like, you need a piss off. Now, we want our own time. And I'm like, oh, my wife doesn't like that. And, you know, they don't listen and things like that. So the people are more reciprocal of these and, like, listen to you, the nights are so much more fun. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:53:59 It just makes everything easier. And it's quicker. It's more efficient, if you ask me. I'm more in the mindset of you guys. Like I understand your guys thinking. Not everybody's the same. Some people don't want someone to just leave. Every couple has their own thing.
Starting point is 00:54:16 It's great that you guys both feel the same way. That's what's always most important is that you're both on the same page of whatever it is you're looking for and how you wanted to go down. Some people have to feel that connection. You guys don't and you like it to be that way. So it makes sense the way you like you're doing it perfectly soon. suited for you guys. That's why you've been successful at. I mean, you know, because you've only had good experiences and it's going well. Yeah. That's right. And like everyone's different. But it seems to work really well for us. Yeah. And the reason why I like the angle of the story,
Starting point is 00:54:49 it was a little different in that you just do it with high-end escorts. Most of the time I'm talking to couples who open it up and go on the apps or they go to Swingers parties or Swingers clubs. And because I do think that other people listening that might not, have tried it yet might say, oh, you know what? Like this makes sense for us too to do it this way. You're lucky to live someplace where it is legal to hire somebody. You don't have to deal with that. I think that that's a problem here in the States because a lot of places it is illegal,
Starting point is 00:55:20 but you're in Australia, correct? And it's legal there, correct? Yeah. It is correct, yeah. Yeah. So there's a difference. I think that that's a big thing here. Last thing you want to do is get busted for that.
Starting point is 00:55:31 But I do understand that if, like, you're in, Australia and you're opening up your relationship. You know, maybe this makes sense for you because of all the reasons that it works for you guys. It would work for someone else. It's a really good like starter. It's a step into this sort of lifestyle and experiences in a sort of, you know, in a pretty safe environment.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Yeah. So wait, you have plans to meet with the new guy, the same guy you're going to see him again, maybe? Yeah, we're trying to. It's always hard, you know, juggling life. but we're in the midst of trying to work out of time and date. But Thomas, let me ask you this. I forget if I asked her.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Do you have any attraction to guys yourself? Are you hearing? Okay, so not at all. You like to watch and that's what it's about. It's about seeing your wife pleasured. Yeah, and like even with the girls, I'm not focused on them. I'm focused on my wife. Right.
Starting point is 00:56:27 So you're very monogamous. Like, would you just like being with her? That's enough for you, kind of. That's it. That's enough. There's no one better for me, and I know that. And I don't want to experience anything else. This is it.
Starting point is 00:56:41 I want to experience only her. And I don't know. You know, when you love someone, you love someone. And, you know, if I wasn't so turned on from it, I'm sure she wouldn't be doing this. Because we didn't do it for the first nine years. It's just, you know, being comfortable and safe enough in each other to be vulnerable and let our, you know, know, desires to each other known and then being strong enough to sort of live them out together. No, as well.
Starting point is 00:57:09 And generous enough as well, because, you know, I guess for her, it's, you know, I give her full control, but it's also must be pretty daunting. Like, I know she sort of talks about, worried about me leaving or how I'm got to react to it. And I always tell her, like, you, dick doesn't lie and you can see how turned on I am. And she's like, yeah, she is. And I, like, and I see her turned on you. Like, are you, like, soaking wet?
Starting point is 00:57:31 You're turned on. It's like, yeah. So, like, you know, we've got tells to know that we're not lying to each other. But it's all about, I guess, the trust and being supportive enough to sort of and comfortable enough to sort of live these things. Because, you know, most people I imagine would have, you know, I listen to your podcast. All these people have all these desires and secrets and stuff. And you just have to find someone who's willing to listen and you feel safe enough to tell.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Yeah. And obviously you did because you are. kind of extreme in that you were a very insecure guy in the beginning and you're now a guy who loves to see his wife get fucked by a guy with a bigger dick and a better body than him. I mean, you're like, I got a dad bod and you're letting her fuck an Adonis. You know, so I think that that's so interesting to hear and, you know, you're kind of like here to say if I could do that and somebody else can, right? How did it change your?
Starting point is 00:58:31 feelings. Like, do you still have insecure? Did it make you less insecure? Oh, yeah. I still have, no. I still have insecurities. Like, you know, I'm only human. No, but I mean within your relationship with her. Yeah, I still think so. Like, you know, she's gorgeous. And
Starting point is 00:58:49 there's always, in the back of my mind, you know, she's too good for me. And I was 13 years on later. You know, that's always in the back of your head. I think my wife always says, though, I don't get as jealous anymore, which is a good thing and a bad thing to her. But it's like, it's fine. I find it really hard now, you know, when guys say that she's hot or something and,
Starting point is 00:59:14 you know, like with her Instagram page, like people comment and she's like, oh, are you jealous? I was like, no, I can't be jealous. Like, I've shared you with another guy. Like, if I've done that, I can't be jealous of someone looking at you saying you're hot. Like, that's, to me now in my brain, that doesn't make sense anymore. Mm-hmm. That's not something to be jealous there.
Starting point is 00:59:33 I'd be more jealous if she has a deep connection to somebody and he's talking to someone every night and, you know, on a more on an emotional level, that's where I think my jealousy would come in. Not from a physical thing, someone like saying, oh, you're hot and you think he's hot. Like, that's hot now to me. It's not a jealous thing.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Right. It's now a turn on to you. Yeah. You know, if you're going to do these sort of thing, you have to separate sex, and emotions and love. Like, you can love someone and, oh, like I say, you can not love someone and be physically attracted to them
Starting point is 01:00:10 and have sex with them, and that's all it is. That's just sex. There's no deeper connection, and I think that's what we're doing with using the escorts. There is no deeper connection. They're nice guys and everything, and the girls are really nice, and I wish them all the best, but do you know what I mean? Like, it's not a loved relationship.
Starting point is 01:00:30 It's like a, physical attraction relationship, which doesn't have a lot of meaning. Right. And I think it's how you make it in your mind. Like, a lot of people are like, oh, I don't know. I still don't know if I can do it. It's like, it's how you make it in your mind. If you make it into a big thing, it's a big thing.
Starting point is 01:00:48 But to me, it's like, they're two separate things. Like, these people don't love it. Right. But what's most important is that if you're going into this kind of lifestyle and you have insecurities to figure out exactly what way is going to work for you. and maybe be like you guys and roll played out a lot and see what you might be into and might not be into and then pick the, you know, the type of situation that works best. Like I said, you guys work best with this transactional sex.
Starting point is 01:01:18 That's not always the case with other people, but I think like, you know, talking out and figuring that out with each other is what's most important. You guys like you went. Communication is the key. Yeah, you went from being very insecure. to being totally into seeing your wife with other guys. I love the story. You know, listen, it was such a different view from your angle, but super,
Starting point is 01:01:40 your wife's episode, I'll put an link to it here so people could listen to that if they haven't yet. But your episode could stand alone as a whole other story, but it's the same story, but it's different because it's from your view of things, which I think is always interesting to get both views of things. We have the girls side of this opening up of the relationship, the very beginning phases, which I love. That's another aspect to it that I love. You're not professionals.
Starting point is 01:02:10 You know, you're just starting out. And we have your side of it too, which I think is super interesting because it's a little bit, it's different. But it adds another angle and that people could learn from guys listening and vice versa. So thank you, Thomas, for coming on and sharing your stories and bringing so much more to the story. to your wife's story. Thanks for having me. No. For letting me talk.
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