Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 966 - Jen (ep 950) Caught her Husband Doing What?! Update episode!

Episode Date: November 15, 2024

Jen (ep #950) found out her husband was not only Ito crossdressing but he was into something else shocking and she called to talk all about it. Tune inn to hear all the details including what she found out he was into and how she found out about it, how he acted when she confronted him about it, the clues he was into it ooking back, how it became his bottom and how and why it helped him to come clean about everything, what she asked for to rebuild trust, how and why she knows he’s not into men even though he dresses up, the stuff they started doing sexually since he’s come clean, what she’s tried that she surprisingly loved, why he wasn’t able to come clean previously with her, how he went all in and what he wound up buying for them to try, all the stuff they have tried, stuff they both decided they won’t try, how his crossdressing fetish and all his kinks have helped their sex life and marriage, how she recently found him dressing solo and how and why that triggered her and him, how she felt about pegging him, how hitting his bottom is the best thingy hat has ever happened to them and their marriage, how and why her curiosity about his fetish helped them plus a whole lot more. **To see anonymous a pics of my guests + get TONS of exclusive CROSSDRESSER episodes and content + hear all the anonymous confessions, join my Patreon Crossdresser tier it's only $10 a month for crossdressers (you get also get Hoser episodes too!) and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order https://beducate.me/anonymous60 Get BEDucated! For 60% off PLUS a FREE 24 hour trial, click the link and use code: anonymous60 Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Today's guest is Jen. Remember Jen? She called in recently. I never got more comments on an episode than her. She was the woman who found out her husband was like a hardcore into cross-dressing and BDSM and all kinds of crazy shit. And he was just like not having it even though she was so open to it and really accepting of all of it and wanting him to come clean. He refused. He was like a brick wall.

He didn't want to tell her anything. He was like kind of denying it. It was like one of the best episodes. I got so many comments about it. Everybody had their sort of reason for why he wasn't. coming clean, well, you're going to get the reason because she has a massive update. I am not going to give you any fucking clue on this update. And if you don't want to know, don't read the description because I will have to put details there. So people know what they're listening to. But he did come clean. He hit a bottom. You're not going to believe the bottom. I didn't believe the bottom. Okay. What happened actually and what she found next because she did was finding more stuff. And he hit a bottom and he came clean. And what happened? after that, you're going to have to listen. It's a great update. You're going to be blown away by how things happened. And it happened quickly because she just called in and they were like at a

place where he was like not fucking willing to budge at all. But then the bottom came and things completely changed. And she's here to tell the whole story and you're going to love it. So I'm going to be right back on. Hi, Jen. Welcome back to the Strictor anonymous podcast. How are you today? A lot better than when I last talked to you. I love that because, okay, listen, I got to give a little backstory in case anyone hasn't listened to your first episode. You were just on. I just aired your episode. I'm so glad that we have like an instant update coming up here, right? Because you had a really big problem you were dealing with. I never got more comments on an episode. You were the woman who found out that your husband was cross-dressing. I mean, it was like one thing after another.

They have to listen to your story because it was like, first you found a bag of dildos, then you found a bag of your clothes and then you found BDSM furniture. I mean, it was like crazy. And this guy just, your husband just wouldn't sort of go there with you. You were very accepting. People were like obsessed with you. I mean, you could have like a husband in two seconds if you ever decided to leave your guy because so many people were like, oh my God, because you were very accepting, if not like, you know, happy that this was brought up because you were like willing to go down this path with him because you felt like it would like rejuvenate your relationship because there was always something missing. You wanted to engage with him. You were totally fine with his fetish and he just would not

cop to it. I mean, every step of the way he was sort of not wanting to talk about it, not wanting to do stuff. You were open to like get down in the bedroom and do stuff and he was like no fucking way. So we put a call out to my listeners. This is a long intro, but it's giving the back story. We put a call out to my listeners and my Patreon people. I never got more comments, okay, from people. And everybody chimed in and had something to say. My whole thing was like, I think he's just not comfortable within himself. And his fetish and hasn't sort of come to terms of it so he can't come out and say it to you. A lot of other people were like, no, this is going to end badly. Like, he's not into women.

He's into men. Some people, you know, everyone had their own take on things. But you have a big update and you're going to tell us like the next chapter in this fucking story. And I feel like it might be a good ending. I don't know. Or a good chapter. Okay. So what happened after we last spoke?

Okay. So also with the backstory, like he had been doing all of this for like 25 years without me knowing. So like this is, this is, I just want to make sure that everyone is aware of how like, nobody that has a fetish thinks that he just pick this up a year ago. Okay. It has never been, and I've talked to 10 years, people that have a fetish, it always starts out. And if someone, if you find out that you're, and like newsflash, I mean, I'm actually glad you brought that up, because if any guy out there, if any woman is in your position and then she found out about the guy and the guy's like, oh, I just thought of this like a year ago. He's like fucking lying. Okay.

if you catch your husband or you find out someone's doing this, they've been doing this since they're like six years old. I mean, once in a blue moon, I'll talk to somebody that just picked up something. But most likely, this is something that has been going on for a long time. And people have to keep it hidden because there's so much stigma attached to it. Did he come clean about that to you or you just always knew that? Well, so the way it happened was in the last one, I told you, like every so often, like every couple of months, I'd find something and I'd go snooping around. and then I'd confront him and then he would deny it or say he doesn't want to talk about it or whatever. So something else happened again where I found some things. What did you find this time? What more could you find?

Well, this time I actually found drugs. And so it took a bad turn. I mean, he was always a weed smoker. I smoke weed with him. Like, that's not my issue. It was like a different drug that I had found. You need to tell me what drug. it was meth.

Holy shit. So, yeah, so I kind of lost my shit considering we have children and this is in the house now. And, you know, I lost it. So at that point, I went through everything. He had fallen asleep with his iPad unlocked. So I looked through everything. I found conversations that he was having with people on Snapchat and on other. or on other things.

And I mean, of course, with Snapchat, you don't really know what happened, but there was like a couple of saved messages that I was able to look at and also see, like, how long he's been talking to some people. So the main person he was talking to was, it looks like some sort of, like, Dom-like person. Was it a woman? Yeah, was a woman. And he had said things like, are you mad at me? Why don't you want to talk to me anymore?

and I was like, all right, this is really strange. And then I saw messages from someone who I could imagine was stealing him meth. So at that point, lost my show. Oh, I also found videos of him smoking the meth and videos of him dressing and smoking and like, you know, so all of this. So I really, a lot came out. Let me ask you a couple of questions before you get to the next thing, because I'm fascinated by this stuff. So when those videos, did it look like he was taking them himself or? was there someone taking a video of him?

Was he alone? Oh, no. It was definitely, it was all alone. He was always in our basement or in his car by himself. Wow. So like meth just makes you so out of your mind that you think like, oh, let me videotape myself smoking meth. Like it's just a weird thing to do.

I was like, well, one of the things when I confronted him, I was like, what, how big of an idiot are you? Well, that's what I'm trying to say. Like, that's what meth does to your brain. Like, you're so fucking dumb. You're just like, dude, taking a video of the dumbest. thing you could do on so many levels. I mean, it's incriminating, it's boring, why are you taping yourself? It just doesn't make any sense, but you got to understand he's fucking high on math, right?

And I guess that's how dumb it makes you, because it's so weird. Now, a quick question about those conversations. Did you feel like, you know, maybe he was meeting up with these people or anything? Was there anything in creating like that? No, I didn't. I think it was really just like him talking to other people. Yeah, that could possibly be. Of course. But having online, though, like sort of relationships with these people. One more question. Very important. The last question.

Looking back, after you find out that he's been doing fucking meth, you know, and you see these videos and you know for fact, do you look back and think to yourself, oh, now I know why like this and that or whatever, was there any signs that he was doing math now that you know, looking back? Oh, yeah. And I feel like an idiot. What were the signs? No, I had a boyfriend, by the way, that was snorting.

heroin the whole time I was with him and I never had any idea. He literally puke in the middle of me talking to him while we were at work in the bar and then just like start talking and then his pupils were always so dilated. I'd be like wow, your pupils are so dilated. They're so cute. Like they're so little. Like they're so cute. I had no fucking idea. Because if you don't know about drugs, you don't know. So I get that you feel stupid. But like how would you ever put that together? This is your husband. You know forever. You would never think. What were the signs though? So like you said, the pupils dilated. I had noticed that like he would. would he would kind of go into these like manic episodes where he's like really focused on something

and like will not take his mind off of it and just do that and he's like running around like really quickly trying to finish things that really like didn't have a time frame or anything like they didn't need to be rushed he would he was not sleeping in the middle of the night so like he wasn't coming to bed and he would be up all night and also he would go through like the past maybe two years he would go through every few months, these, like, deep depressions where, like, for three days, he would not, he would just be sleeping constantly. And he would be very irritable. He would be yelling. He would be, like, and I'm an idiot thought it was just, like, a really bad depressive episode that would come on every few, every so often. And I thought it was, like, maybe bipolar because he would have those manic situations as well. And then, you know, throughout that time, I kept encouraging him to seek therapy.

therapeutic treatment and all that and he always refused. So, you know, now I realize and he had confirmed that those episodes were when he was trying to wean himself off in the past. Like he would go through periods where he was. So he would like detox on his own and then, you know, that's what I would notice. This episode is sponsored by Blue Chew. Let's talk about good effing sex. You know, remember back in the day when you were always rock hard and super ready to go. You want to get back that confidence in bed? Well, then you need to check out Blu-chew-chew. Blue-chew is a unique online service that deliver a chewable at a fraction of the cost, and the process is super simple. All you got to do is sign up at bluechew.com, consult with one of their licensed medical providers, and once you're

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told me everything in his whole life. And for a really long time, he had these really weird episodes and I would spend hours on the phone with him talking to him about going to doctors, changing his life. Like, and he would just describe all these things that were happening. And we were like hours and hours of my fucking time for years. And then it turned out he eventually like copped to me that he was doing fentanyl. And that is when he was like in withdrawals and didn't have it. And I'm like, holy fuck.

Like all that time you wasted my fucking time going through all this when you knew exactly what was going on. You played like clueless that you were like, why the fuck is this happening? happening to me and you wasted my fucking time being your therapist? I mean, like, I don't know what it got me that. You know, but it's like it's like it's a huge feeling of betrayal when that happens. Yeah, for sure. It's great. And it's like also because I mean, I had the same thing where I was so close with this person. It's like finding out something like I mean, you had already found out so much more. Now this is to me as equally as crazy as finding out that he was a cross-dresser, right? Like that he did this.

Right? Don't you think? Yeah. I mean, I'm not here to disappoint. I mean, because I feel like it's equally as like, holy shit, who the fuck are you? Right. And that's what I said. I was like, I feel like I don't know my own husband. And of course, like now I don't want to share this with anyone either because this could ruin his career. This could, you know, this could do so much. But it was kind of the catalyst that I needed to be like, listen, this, like, I have all this, this evidence in my hands.

Like if you, you know, if you do not start talking to me, if we do not change things, like, I can take the kids and they would have, you know, I would have full custody because of like all of this. And I, you know, I hate that I got there. And honestly, I would never get to the point where I would, but I think he just needed to hear something like that. Like, this is how bad your life is getting right now because you're not fixing it. No, I love that. I mean, I felt like he needed a bottom, you know, unfortunately, sometimes that's what needs to be.

thought you finding all that other stuff was his bottom. We didn't realize it wasn't yet, you know, but he got there and I feel like literally like 10 years from now, I, I, if he just goes down the right path and it, like, he'll look back and be like, that was the best thing that ever happened to me, you know, because finally you know the full truth. We thought you knew the truth before, you know, and I always felt like that was a very powerful moment in his life and we just need to give him some time to sort of come to terms with it. But it really wasn't. He still had some fucking things he was hiding from you. But you finding them out really was like a blessing. for him seriously. Like it could have like literally saved his life. Yeah. You know, so okay, he wakes up and you go to him with

the shit. What is he said? I mean, he said, I can't deny anything you're saying. Yeah, the videos. He's like, this is, yeah, like this is true. Like there's no, you know, there's, there's no backing out of this one. Exactly. And I just, you know, I, I told him how disappointed I was, how like furious I was, really, that again, you have drugs in the house, we have children, this is not okay. Like, how do I know that you weren't high when you're taking care of them? You know, like, this is a huge trust issue right now. So, I mean, he copped to everything and I told him some of the things that I needed from him. I told him, like, you know, he agreed to let me drug test him after, like, he was going to wean himself off again and he said, be prepared for those times in the past where, you know, I was sleeping for days and I was really

irritable and all of that. So he agreed to let me drug test him. He agreed to let me look in his iPhone, you know, in his phone or in his iPad, like whenever I ask and do not get mad about me about it. Like when I ask, like, you know, you just hand it over if I ask. So he agreed to that. He deleted Snapchat. I mean, he, because he really said, like, I, I'm like, why are you doing all of this? And he's like, because I don't want to lose everything. And I realize that like I'm at that point where I can lose everything right now. Yeah.

And that's what he needed. That's why they call it a bottom. It really is like. Yeah. Because listen, I think that change is an or coming clean or, you know, all those things that he needs to do is very difficult. Right. So the bottom is like actually worse. It has to be worse for someone to change.

Right. That's why people don't change because a lot of times there's no reason to like that because that choice is so difficult and such a hard path to go down. Why are they going to go down there when everything's fine? You know, they have to be forced with a second path that's fucking worst. You know what I'm saying? That's a bottom. And that is what saves people's lives. You know, it's almost like what's worse than coming clean and doing the work. It's like losing fucking everything. Right. Yeah. And that's what he needed. Thank God. And it was also, I don't know if this happened during our last call, but I had confronted him about something and he's like, that's that I'm throwing everything out. I don't want to do

any of this anymore. And so he like took garbage bags and he threw things out. And I also like when I found the mess, I also found like more outfits and things like that that were new. So I was like, listen, I'm not upset that you're dressing up. Like it does not bother me. I've told you this before. What does bother me is drug use. I'm not okay with that. And like things need to change. So I don't even remember how like it just happened. But you know, we really sat down and talked about things. I talked about what he was into. He finally mentioned everything and he said, he was like, well, I didn't know. I was like scared to tell you because I didn't want you to be disgusted with me or like he wasn't comfortable. He didn't really believe you that you were okay with it because he didn't believe

it himself. It's his own sort of projection, I believe, you know, but he was forced to sort of come to terms with it, which I think is great. Right. And he told me that he wants to do these things with me. again he reiterated he's not interested in men he's not you know like he even said what he dresses he doesn't because i asked him more about that like i was curious about that and he said that he doesn't identify himself like in a female role when he's dressing he just like likes the like taboo nature of it and like that's more of what he's into like he doesn't want he doesn't view himself as a woman he views himself as a man dressing in lingerie and like just how like risque it is I guess so he said I'm going to buy a bunch of things and you know we'll see what

you like and what you don't like and we just kind of like really jumped into it oh I can't believe it happened very quickly and I was really excited about it too so and like I'm surprised at myself like the things that I was doing because I don't know I never like expected it but you were open to it that's what makes you so wonderful. And that's what I think people were so impressed with you by. And I think what so many other people could learn from you, you know, because probably if someone would have said to you, like, hey, do you think you'd be into this? You'd be like, no fucking way. But, you know, you were open to it and you went down that path and let me ask you, like, you're going to tell me the stuff that you have done. And let me, you tell me, like, were you surprisingly into it? And you would have never believed that you were?

Yeah. So I guess like the thing. I was most shocked about myself. It was like, you know, I went down on him and everything. Like, I would normally. And then I just like went for it and like started giving him a rim job. And like, I really enjoyed it. There you go. Me and my friend Layla, who's a coer's, she was telling me how dirty I was that I'd

rim a guy. I'm like, you fisted a guy. I'm like, you're to place. You're like, I would never go down another guy's asshole. I'm like, I wish. It's like, you know. But you did that because you know, like he enjoys that. Oh, yeah, he was like going crazy.

He was like, and he was shocked after that. He was like, I never in a million years would have thought that you would ever have done that. Right. And I'm like, yeah, I'm pretty shocked about that one too. But he was just like, I was like, why did you, like, I gave you all the signs that I wanted to like spice things up and like do some different things. And you kept like not being interested. And he was like, no, he's like, I didn't think you were prude or anything. I just thought, like, I don't know, you would never be into it.

Like, how could my life end like this where, like, my wife is actually interested in doing the stuff that I'm interested in? Like, he just could not believe it. I understand why. Yeah. I mean, he's dressed up while we were having sex. So that was, like, a huge step for him because I didn't think that would happen for a while. I think that would just take him a while to, like, be dressed in front of me because of, like, the vulnerability of that. but he like dressed and like as I was like going down on him and I pegged him.

Wow. So that was exciting. Did you go out and buy a strap on or did he have one? He bought everything. Like he like it was crazy. All of a sudden there were like so many Amazon boxes in front of our house. Like I can't even tell. He spent like probably a thousand dollars worth of like.

just everything. Well, let me just tell you, this is a good part of your husband's personality. Like, in one sense, it took him a really long time to come around, right? Like, but once he did, he's like fucking all in or all out. And I like that because it would have been really annoying if he took like a year to like slowly integrate. It's great that like, boom, here I am. I'm dressing up. I'm doing everything.

Like, I think that's just great. Yeah. And he's that person, you know? He just bought so many things. And he bought so many restraints. Like, I can't even tell. I'm like, what do you do? These are all the same thing.

He's like, no, they're different. I'm like, okay, whatever, I'll use them. But, you know, like, let's try them out. But it was just so funny that, like, when I saw what he was buying, I could see, like, I got more insight about, like, okay, what does he want to do together? And what were those things? So just, like, I mean, definitely pegging. Restraints were huge for him.

So, like, he really liked that. Like, a lot of the outfits were, like, the latex-looking outfits and, like, change. looking things. I feel like so naive talking about this stuff because I don't know like the proper like that's okay. We know what you're talking about. Yeah. I love that about you. And like body suits, like the mesh body suits and everything. And he was, you know, he just bought so many things. And like, really, we have not held back. Like it was just like I'll try. I told him I'll try anything once and to let you know if I like it. And I'm like in this mindset where I'm not going to say no. So like anything you want to do, we're going to try it.

Yeah. Wow. And then, like, over the past, like, week or two, we've been talking about, like, the things, like, our hard nose or things like that. So, you know, that also gave me some more insight into what he was into as well. Like what? What were those hard nos? So, like, he, like, his hard nose, like, he doesn't seem to like more of the pain aspect.

Yeah. He's not into role playing just because he feels like he'll be a bad actor. Yeah, I get it. he you know my hard nose for like I'm not into diaper play anything like that that is like a hard no for me just because I've changed so many diapers in my life like I cannot do anymore um it's just like that's not appealing to me um and you know just those are some of the things that have come up yeah I love that I mean you know listen it's smart that those things have come up and you've discussed them because sometimes guys do want that he sounds like he's very into being a submissive. And sometimes that could come with being a submissive for sure. Right. Like we do switch.

So he's like tied me up. I've tied him up. I think he tends to like more of the submissive role. Yeah. Which I'm kind of like I'm fine with any of it. Yeah. I do want some training on like how to talk more like a dom because because I like struggle a little bit in that respect.

Like sometimes I'll say something and I'm like cringing inside like, oh, that was weird. Yeah. Hey listen go to bedicated You can get like 60% off And like a free 24 hour trial I'm sure they have a Dom class And they have like every kind of fucking class And it's like dirty talk class

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But like you know that first time When he did come clean And you know You guys were like on board And everything like Did he like thank you? Is he very? like did he finally sort of realize like how fucking Grady has it and anything like that like what did he

specifically say not in the beginning I think in the beginning when I first confronted him it was more like he was really down on himself that he had gotten his life to this point where he's getting an ultimatum and he was still in the mindset like there's no way she would ever be into this yeah so I think in his mind he thought like okay all this stuff is over and maybe we'll do like some like light stuff but for the most part like more of like his deep fetishes like will never happen again um I think that's like where his mindset was but I mean as we got to talking more he was like like when he bought all the stuff on Amazon I think that's that was the turning point because he we went through them together like he was like oh this is coming today because he would text me throughout the work day and be like oh I'm

excited for like there's a couple of things coming today and I was home that day. So he's like, don't open the boxes yet and kind of like teasing about it. Like we're going to do that together. And when the boxes came like we kind of opened it, it was like Christmas morning type of thing. Because I'm also like looking like what is this do. Like I don't know what this is. So he's explaining it too. And it was just it was a really nice moment. And I mean, there were so many things to open and clean and unpack and like all that stuff. So he's explaining it too. And it was just, it was a really nice moment.

And I mean, there were so many things to open and clean and unpack and like all that stuff. But what a fun way to communicate what you're into. That really was his way of really laying it all on the table. Yeah. Like you said before, like he either like, it's like go big or go home with him. Like there's no middle ground. Yeah, that's okay. It works in this scenario.

Yeah. Sometimes it's like very infuriating. But of course. When he wasn't telling you shit and he was shutting you down and he would not fucking budge, it was irritating. But I love the fact that, you know, same side of the, like different side of the same coin, you know, once he was ready or he had to, it's he's all in, which is great. Yeah.

Because this is where you wanted to be with him, right? I mean, once you got that, you didn't want to leave him. You wanted to stay with your husband. You were totally open to it. You even felt, and, you know, tell me if you feel this even more. I remember you saying that like, you know, your sex life wasn't that great anymore and you felt like this could like rejuvenate it. You know, you were like kind of like excited that there was like something new on the table. You know, he couldn't believe that.

But that's how you really felt. Like, do you feel like it has rejuvenated things in your relationship? Oh my God. Yes. 100%. I mean, it's been like now like after we put the kids to bed, it's like we have this routine now. And like I'll ask him like earlier on the night like, do you think we're going to play today? and he'll say yes or no, like me asking him, like him not asking me.

So like, you could tell, like, I'm pretty excited about all of this. And so, like, after the kids go to bed, we go downstairs in the basement. And, like, right now it's like set up. Like, we have an air mattress and things like that right now before, like, until we're ready to move upstairs, I guess. And he was saying to me, like, I can't believe, like, this used to be like my space where it would be like me doing things. And he's like now like this is our space.

And like this feels like so great. And you know, even like as we're doing things like when I was pegging him, like when we were like when I was going down on him and everything, he was just like, holy shit, this is so hot. I could have never in a million years like expected this to happen. Like I'm still in shock. Like I'm still in disbelief at this. This is going on. And like, and I kept saying like I told you that I wanted to do these things. Yeah, what did he say?

He was just like, no matter how much you told me, I could not believe that you would ever be into this kind of stuff. And like, even last night, like, we were fooling around and like in the middle of the night. Like, okay, so this is what upset me. And I think this is just me being a little insecure. And just like with the with like the history of like what has happened, especially like in the middle of the night. So he started like I woke up in the middle of the night and I went downstairs to look for him and I found him like it like, like, dressed. This was a couple nights ago. So, like, he, like, had lingerie on. And I could tell, like, he was either, like, just about to masturbate or just, like, finished or whatever. So I got

upset because earlier that day, I was like, oh, are we going to play today? And he's like, no, I'm, like, kind of tired. I don't think we're going to do anything. And I was like, okay. So then in the middle of the night, I see that he's not in bed. He's downstairs doing that. So then, of course, my mind goes to, like, is he talking to people again? Is he, like, what is he doing? What's going on? Is he doing drugs? Blah, blah, blah. And, You know, he said, like he said, like, I'm just trying things out. Like, I'm just trying to see, like, what, what it looks like on me and if I'm comfortable with you, like, seeing it. And, you know, he just kind of went through all of that. And he's like, you know,

sometimes in the whole night, like, I might want to jerk off, like, if I can't sleep or something. And I don't, like, and I know this is me being irrational, but I was like, I don't know, like, I'm doing all these things with you. Like, I want to be the, I don't want you to want to have to master me. Like I just want to be, I want me to be enough. Like, because I think that this, the theme through this whole experience for years has been like, I'm never going to be enough for him because he's into these things that like he's not letting me in and like that I don't fulfill. Yeah, but even a regular guy that's into vanilla sex is still going to watch some porn when his wife is sleeping to have a little something else going down and it means fucking nothing. To me,

it's apples and oranges. I really just. I know. Yeah. I, listen, I get why you go to that place. You're like scarred. You have PTSD for what you went through, you know, and it's being triggered in moments like that for sure. But you just, and I feel like you'll get through that.

But eventually you just have to realize that sometimes a guy wants to like fucking jerk off and do what he needs to do. And it has nothing to do with anything lacking in his relationship or anything. Seriously. Yeah. So last night, like while we were laying in bed together and just like fooling around. And it was weird. Like last night we had like regular sex.

which I'm like not used to anymore. Oh my gosh, so funny. Yeah. You know, like now I'm used to like, you know, being tied up or like doing all these different things. And it was like yesterday like we didn't use any toys. We didn't use like, we didn't tie each other up. Like it was just weird.

And I was like, oh, like this could also happen too. Like it doesn't always have to be like the kinky stuff. So we were like as we're laying together, he's like, I just like I keep getting worried that I'm scaring you off like you're like disgusted with me. And I'm like, when did I even give that indication? And he's like, well, like, when you saw me the other night and I had lingerie on, like, I know you were upset. And I'm like, I wasn't upset.

Like, I explained to him that, like, I wasn't upset about the fact that he was dressed. It was the fact that, like, it just, like, felt like the sneakiness was happening again. So I just said, like, it's going to take time for me to trust again. But, like, I'm not disgusted by you. I'm not turned off by you. Like, I'm, like, so turned on by you. And I love, like, exploring this life now together. Like, it's so exciting to me that.

Like, you know, there's, we've been together for almost 20 years and like now there are so much more that we can like look forward to. And yeah, it's it really has changed things like so much. Yeah. Listen, him feeling that way about you is no different than you feeling freaked out when you see him alone. That's his PTSD. That's his, uh, issues from the past coming out and being triggered by what you're doing. But, you know, the train has left the station. You guys are going to be fine. Like seriously. Like, look at what you've been through and where. You're, you know, the train has left the station. You guys are going to be fine. Like seriously. Like, like, look at what you've been through and where. You're. You're. You're. you're at. I feel like things only get better from here, but there's going to be bumps in the road. It's normal, especially because of like what's happened. I think, you know, you're just going to eventually have to come to terms with the fact that why not like reframe it and be like, whenever you want, go fucking jerk off and dress up. Like, that's fine because he's still including you. I think there'd be a problem if he wasn't, you know, but you're doing your thing and just look at it like no big deal if he does that eventually. And then he'll eventually realize like he's not scaring you away. But I feel like you're just both being triggered by your old feelings and stuff because this is very new.

Yeah. But it's been fun. Yeah. So what about pegging? Like, how was that for you? Like, did you enjoy it? Well, I was, first of all, I was surprised that it happened so quickly. Like, I thought we would, like, work up to that because I thought, like, clearly he was, he wanted it.

So, and I told him, like, I'm not going to do it unless you're asking me to do it. Like, you know, I'm not, you know, because I also didn't. want him to think I was just going to be like shove it in there. But I've also listened to enough podcast and like read up enough because when I do something, I want to like do it well. So I don't want to just like and and like you know, this is not something that I'm used to. Like I've never worn a strap on before. So, you know, everything that I've listened to said like, you know, wear it around, like wear it while you're having other types of sex like just so you're used to it on your body. And like because yeah, like like since it's like it's not attached to you so you don't

know, like, how it moves and all of that. So, and, like, leading up to it, he, so the first time he dressed up in front of me, he was, like, in the basement. He's, like, go upstairs. I don't, like, want you to see. Like, I want to, like, he really wanted to pick things out. And he was so nervous about me seeing him, like, in person. Because I had seen pictures and videos that he had done. No, this is a big moment. He's going to come out first time. Yeah. So he was really nervous. And, like, he had to pick, like, the perfect thing to wear. So, like, I think he was thinking, like, I don't want to get like too kinky, but also like I, like, you know, he was testing the waters. Yeah.

So, so I was upstairs and I had like picked out something sexy to wear. And I was, I put on the strap on and I was like taking pictures of myself wearing the strap on and sending it to him like, like, what do you think? Do you like it? And he was like, when I came down, he was like, oh, my God, you're so hot. Wow. And he's not someone to say things like, oh, you're so hot. And like, he doesn't like, I don't know, give compliments. like that frequently. So hearing that is a big deal for me. And just like while we're having

sex, like while we're doing things, he's just like constantly like, oh my God, like I can't believe this. Like this is, this is amazing. Yeah, I love that because, you know, there were a lot of people who commented and I'm not like, oh, see, you weren't wrong. Because everybody was valid in what they were coming back and saying, right? Because he was like a blank slate and he wasn't copping to why the fuck he wouldn't tell you, right? So everyone's, of course, going to have their opinions. And there were a lot of different opinions. And there were definitely. were a lot of guys that were like he just doesn't like women like she's got to understand like he's gay he's not into you know but this but no not true like no it's not the case right and when i like

was going through the snapchat and everything it was all women that he was exactly there was like not one man yeah that's important to say because if it was if that was the case you would have found all dudes in there because i've talked to those guys like i said i've talked to a lot across just there some that are with men and are into that and do feel that way and some that 100% aren't i mean it's one does not have to do with the other necessarily. So you would have found out by looking through his shit. Yeah. Yeah, definitely.

So that, that, it's weird. It made me feel better that it was all women. But like, yeah, of course. You're talking to women. Like, that's not cool. Yeah, well, because like in, like, not, like his wildest, in his wildest fantasies, he could have never imagined you being okay with it. And that's what's kind of sad, you know, but, and, but how amazing.

that all of this came out and you not only were you open to it, you're like into it and you guys are like having like great sex, right? Yeah. Yeah. So, so like to answer your question like did I like pegging? Yeah. I, I like, it was definitely different. It's weird like not to feel it. Like it's yeah, it's weird to like because like it's so intimate and to not feel it. I mean like he bought he bought a couple of different dildos because he bought like everything. So he bought the kind of. So he bought the kind of that like a piece goes inside of me as well but I I like just wasn't comfortable with that one yet because it was like it kept falling out and like you have to like really get it into the best position and I couldn't like walk around with it like like moving around was difficult because it would

like slip out or something yeah so I feel like until I really know what I'm doing I don't really want to use that because like I wanted like you know and I was so worried about like hurting him I mean, I know he's been doing this for forever. So, yeah, like, I started, like, fingering him. And he was just like, like, like, he was going wild. Like, he was, like, squirming. Like, he could not believe this. Because I just like, I just was like, hey, can I, like, play down there?

And he's like, do you want to? And I was like, yeah. So I did. And he was just, like, so into it. And that was like the first thing. And then I think the second night that I was fingering him, he was like, I was wearing the strap on. He's like, well, you could, you could try it if you want.

And I was like, no, no, no. Like, that's not enough for me. Like, I want you to say that you want it. I'm not going to, like, I'm not going to hear if you want, you can do it. Yeah. Like, you have to really want it in order for me to do it. Mm-hmm. So he was like, I want it.

Like, I want you to fuck me. And I was like, okay. Oh, my God. So I did. I mean, it was difficult. Like, because I'm not used to it, right? Like, it was hard finding, like, the right position to, to do it in and like we did for a little bit and then he was like it's getting too much and like not

that it was hurting like I think he was just so overwhelmed by like everything that was going on that he was like can we just have like regular sex now oh my god that's so funny yeah and he was like no trust me like that doesn't mean I don't like it like I love this and I want to do this like a lot but he's like I'm just so overwhelmed with like where things are going that I like because I never like expected this like so then he like on one of his little sex couch things that he bought he like restrained me a little bit and then like really fucked me wow he was like he was so hard yeah that's i was gonna say i was wondering that first time when he came fully dressed oh my gosh you know was it was it was hard for him to get it up or no he was like ready for actually oh no he was he was he was like he was ready he was so

excited i mean he gets really stressed out with work so like during the week we don't really do anything and I think he's even like gotten a little bit annoyed with me when I'm like, are we going to play tonight? And he's like, we can't do this every night. Yeah, that's great. But I mean, like when we're in the moment, he was just like, this is amazing. This is like all I could ever ask for. But he's still like in the back of his mind. He's so like insecure that he's like, like I think he's doing better now. But like the first few times that we did stuff, he was like, I think in the back of his mind, he was worried. I was out to get him.

Like, this was all a ruse. And I wasn't really into it. And I was going to see, like, how fucked up he is in his head and be like, well, like, this is definitely over. And now I have even more proof that he's a weirdo. Like, so I think he, it took him time to really trust me that I was actually liking it. I'm saying I'm liking it and I'm actually liking it. I'm not, I'm not like trying to like fuck you over. Yeah, no, totally.

And that's like, that makes sense. You know what I mean? Like, think about it. It really makes sense, especially because of what was on the table. Now, has he talked to- Because he's hidden it for so long, like for so many years. I mean, come on. Like, it's not the fucking movies where you catch him and he's like, hip, hip, hooray.

Like, this is so great. Like, let's do it. You know what I mean? Like, to me, this story is so real and the way it plays out in real life. And I love how quickly, like I said, and I love that he's the type that just like, once he was okay with it. He's like full on. I think that that's really great. And of course, he's still.

Dill doesn't fucking believe it and he has those insecurities. Whereas like you'll also probably still have a little distrust and you know some stuff too because of what went down between the two of you. But that will go away in time, I think, you know, because listen, the truth is, okay, you're calling into my show secretly. Nobody knows. He doesn't even know, right? You're calling in the truth. I debated whether or not to tell him. I was actually wondering if, like, if I told him if he would do like a surprise, like, and show up. Like, I wanted to almost surprise you and in him being on Oh my God, that would be so great. I mean, he could always call in down the line if he ever does. This Memorial Day, shop one of Avocados' biggest mattress sales of the year and fall in love with sleep again.

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No, do not. You are in a great boat right now. Celebrate how far you've come and what's going on. Keep this between you and him. Listen, you called into my show not because you were lost. You didn't know where the fuck to go. You were very alone with this. as are probably a lot of other women that find out this information. I mean, you're not probably

the only one, right, out there. You didn't know what the fuck to do. It makes sense that you did it, but you don't need to bring that to the table right now. You got what you wanted, which was him coming clean and engaging with you and stuff. I mean, because you were really, like, last we spoke, you were really at a place where you're like, two years from now, like, are you going to be with this person if he's still, like, not copping to it and still hiding from his life, his life from you? It was like, it was kind of like going to be a deal breaker at some point. So it's so amazing where you guys are now. I felt like that was coming. I felt like the fact that all of this stuff was just coming out on the surface was like some part of him was ready because like I'm an

I was an alcoholic. I quit drinking like 20 something years ago and I look at my bottom as like the best thing that ever happened. But like all the like everything that happened is just like all happened for a reason. Like I felt like it was his time and it was coming, you know, and just maybe needed a little bit more time. You know, I didn't feel like it was going to be. oh, you find out all that stuff and he's just going to hide for more time. I felt like there was some part of him that was getting sloppy and bringing this all because he was like fucking done with it. What has he said though about like the meth usage and all of that?

Like I would assume that it was living a double life, keeping all this stuff and everything. You know, a lot of times people like you have to check out because life is like really hard and stuff. Like has he been going through a lot of stuff with the meth? Have you guys talked about that of him like staying clean and how does he stay clean and all kind of stuff. Yeah, we, we talked about that. I mean, that's still an area that he's, he's, like, so ashamed about. Yeah. So he hasn't wanted to talk about it, but he, it's out in the open. And he said, like, because it's out of the out, out in the open, like, I have no choice but to stop. Yeah. You know, he's still not open to seeking any treatment, which, like, I'm not

pleased about because, like, you know, it's not like he's just smoking weed and that's it. Like, you know. It can be very addictive. He might need help. He just, literally he might need help. I never did math, but I feel like it must be like very highly addictive. And sometimes it's just, you know, he could probably use the help while he's doing it. But that's like something if he continues to talk about it with him and keep that open lines of communication, you know, maybe that will come down the line. Or maybe he just, maybe everything coming clean and stuff. Like, why does he need the fucking meth? The drug high that he's getting from you pegging him and all this stuff. I mean, he's probably like better than any meth trip he's

ever been down. Yeah. And I mean, I mean, I mean, we're still doing edibles, like, when we're playing around a lot of times. Yeah, there you go. But, I mean, he really said, like, I don't want to do this anymore. He's, like, all the times I've seen him, like, detoxing on his own. Like, he doesn't want to do it. And, like, he would get back into it because he's kind of, like, insinuated, like, it's a lot of shame, like, of what I'm doing. Yeah, 100%.

And just, like, just escaping and feeling, like, it's not me. that's that's into this it's like you know most of the time when you get somebody that is high on like really hardcore drugs you could trace it back to something that they're avoiding you know i mean maybe some people just pick it up for the fucking fun and then it's highly addictive of course that happens too right but like my boyfriend that was doing heroin like you know in his past was a car accident where he was sitting right next to his best friend who they crashed a car and his best friend died right in front of him. You know, like that's the kind of thing that's going to fuck someone up.

Another guy I dated that was a, you doing heroin before I dated him. His sister died of cancer when he was like 14 and that was like his favorite sister. You know, so you could always trace back like really, really hardcore things. With your husband, it makes sense. Look at what the fuck he was doing. That, what a heavy burden. What a better way to fucking check out. You know, you need something hardcore.

Edibles was not enough, you know, but I feel like without the. need to do all that, I don't know that he'll need to do the meth anymore. And that's what he said. He's like, you know, this is giving me a reason to not need it. Exactly. Because he was doing it because of all, because of what was hidden. What he was, you know, now he doesn't have to do that. And he was staying up all night, like that, because like that's when he would do everything was in the middle of the night. Yeah. So, I mean, he might have like some issues of just like just the physical addiction with it, but most likely like down the line, like his need to do it isn't there anymore because he's not hiding anymore. So I think it's like I said he'll look back at what happened as like the best thing.

Like the fact that you found all that shit. Oh my God. The best day of his life. Yeah. You know, it's weird for me to think like, thank God he was doing meth. You know, like I would never like that's in the back of my mind. Like if he wasn't doing meth, I might not, we might not have gotten to this point. Yeah. Which is like crazy to think about because I, I'm so furious about the fact that he was doing drugs in the first place. But listen, you know, I'm a fucking realist. Okay. And so the reality was that's what he was doing.

Okay, Jen, that's what he was fucking doing. You needed to know and you did. And the truth, the full truth, everything about your fucking real relationship came out. And I think, unfortunately, sometimes it never comes out in other people's relationship because that's the last thing they want to do is face the fucking truth. Because sometimes the truth is like horrifying. But the truth is way better than what you guys were living. before, which was fucking phony.

You know what I mean? Your husband was living a totally different life. So you know what? This is the fucking reality. You know it. And from here you can move forward and have a much better life. And so thank God. I just think so many people are so afraid of the truth because like what does that mean

and whatever. Who the fuck cares? If it's happening, you should want to know about it. You know what I mean? Because from there you could figure it out. And it sounds like you guys are really figuring it out. And, you know, what a better place to be.

There's other people out there. This is going on in their lives. and they have no idea, you know? You not only know, you're like going past it and you're having a better relationship because of finding out the truth. And I think that that's what it's all about. Right.

And I just look at the grand scheme of things. Like it would be a very different situation if he was meeting up with people. If he was like, you know, like he was just talking to people. And when I think if I were like, I don't know, maybe 10 years ago, if I knew that my husband was talking to other people online,

that would be like a deal breaker to me. But like, after you're in a relationship for a while and then you have a family together and like there's so many things on the line that it's like it was harmless like he really like he didn't meet with anyone and i really do believe him like i don't think i'm being naive about it you know like we can get through this and i kept telling him like we like i'm mad at you but we can get through this and like you're going to have to understand that it's going to take time for me to really trust you again and i'm going to need the proof that i could trust you so like and so far he's been great about it the was one situation where he was in his car something and I'm like, what are you doing? And he's like, why did you ask me with that tone? I said, we can, we can get through this. Like, as long as you're not meeting up with people. Like, it's, at the end of the day, like, you know, what harm did it do, really? Like, I don't know. I just feel like I feel differently now about that than I might have 10 years ago. Yeah. And the weird thing is, is like when you do actually live through

something like that and you kind of stay and you do you know you become a less judgmental person so many people sit in like their fucking glass house and they're like oh my god so judgy like how could you you found out your husband was doing all that and you fucking stay well you don't know what how you're going to be or what you're going to think or how you're going to act in that same situation when I just feel like I I I totally understand where you're coming from I give you so much credit for sticking through for your family you love this man nobody's perfect I get why I he was doing it behind your back. It wasn't, it had nothing to do with you and everything to do with him. So, like, I could think of a hundred reasons why it doesn't fucking matter that he was doing that anymore now that you know the truth.

Yeah. You guys are moving forward. I can understand why you're going to be a little distrustful for a little while, right? But, uh, but I just think it's like the best thing that ever happened. I agree. Yeah. No, I mean, this is, honestly, it's the best thing that could have happened to us. Like, I'm so excited. I'm like, I love exploring with him. And I just feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like, I feel like our relationship is like rejuvenated like completely new and um yeah like it's it's it's so excited like I can't even stress it enough how exciting this is and I just like look forward to it like every single day like last night when we were having like more regular sex he was like oh like I'm gonna think of something to do tomorrow like I'll like plan it all out and I was like getting so

excited about hearing that like what does he have planned and yeah how amazing and I mean I would love to talk to him just to hear how fucking lucky he feels to be married to somebody like, you know, you know, because this could be a very different story given, you know, with different players and the game. I don't know, but I just love the way that you handle it. I think it's inspiring. I love this update. It's real life. And I'm trying not to get into my head about like, why, why didn't this happen 10 years ago or 20 years ago? Like, it's happening now and that's what matters and this is exciting. So like, I just like, yeah, because you still have. have so much life ahead of you and it's great like I don't know I didn't have a kid till way later in

life but I never think like oh I wish I did it then I did everything else then and now I'm living the best life so isn't it great to be the happiest you've ever been at this age when some people maybe in your life like their their marriage is like groundhog day yours is fucking rejuvenated so yeah who cares it's perfect now just look at it's awesome and I feel so happy for your husband you guys had just got to another level with each other and you got there at the same time And that's what it's all about. And I think that that's great. And I love this fucking update.

People are going to be so amazed, you know, because everybody chimed it. I never had more people chiming in. And like I said, the people that were kind of wrong or sort of different things, I could understand why everyone had every one of their opinions because you didn't know your husband was not coming to clean, right? So you had to make shit up or you had to wonder. And all of the things that people thought were valid and could have been the case. But I love that we found out what the actual case was.

And you did too. And it worked in your favor. Yeah. It could have been that he was into guys. You know, it could have been that he really wanted to, but could have been. Right. For sure. For sure. Yeah. And it just totally wasn't. And it works out. And I love the fact that, you know, because I felt like, oh, God, like, what a great human being being wasted on a guy that is never going to accept it. If that was the case, right? If he was never going to be able to go there with you, it's like, what a waste. Here you are a woman that's like down for it. You know, it's kind of rare. But it's, that's not the story. The story is you're not a waste. You're, you're, you were, you guys were brought together for the perfect reason and he's so lucky and you're, you know, and so it's just, it's just a wonderful ending of a story. And now you have so much ahead of you and you're finally living in your truth. And I think that that's great. Don't tell him about the podcast. Don't. Not now. Maybe in the future. I'd love to have him on. But like I said, right now, just like enjoy what you guys are doing. You have so much to explore and get into and stuff,

you know. And, yeah, you know, he makes fun of me though, because he's like, like, every time I'm, wanting to try something or like I do something. I'm like, I listen to this on a podcast. And he's like, you listen to this on a podcast. Like he makes fun of me because I'm like so into podcast. Like I've always been. But now I like all of my information about sex comes from podcasts. Yeah, but I got to tell you, for every couple that I have on my show that, uh, the girl is into it. She's got your kind of personality type in that. She's very curious and she wants to learn and know about things. And that is like, why you are who you are. So thank God you listen to fucking podcast because that's why you're open. You're curious. You know what I mean? And you're open and you did your homework and you went and

listened and you learned a lot. If you would have just thought you knew it fucking all and what people think about cross-dressing and stuff, you would have probably divorced your husband because you would have thought he's cross-dressing. He's dressing like a woman that means he's into guys and you could go fuck yourself because you're not into me. That's what somebody that doesn't do research will think, right, on the service. That's what someone that has no clue about the fetish would thing, but you did it. You went and you investigated and you were curious and you wanted to learn so you could really like come to the table with really analyzing the situation from the place that you should with all the fucking facts. And you came to realize through listening to podcasts,

that doesn't mean that he's fucking gay, that he does that. But without listening, you would have never known that because that's what people just think. So I find that the couples that do fare well in these kinds of situations, the women are always sort of wired like you. And that's what I tell guys. I'm like, you know, if your woman's not wired like that, right, then you have to them because a woman without the knowledge of like what's really going down with your fetish is never going to have a clue. The woman that won't put on panty hose for the hoser is a girl that doesn't understand that he needs that. It's not a want. It's not something like no big deal. But these women don't know it because they're not educated. They don't want to know about it. They're not learning

about the fetish. So if they're not curious, you got to fucking tell them and you got to really explain what this means to you, you know, because it's not like no big deal. Your your guy was, it was not going to go away. A cross-jolker could purge all he wants and they do a lot of the times. But I've never talked to someone whose fetish, like, just went away. Sometimes over time, it does dissipate a little bit and becomes about comfort and stuff just because they've been doing it for so long. But it's a, it's different than a kink. It's like a need, you know, and I think that you accepted it so much in him because you listened to podcasts and because you educated yourself. And so like I said, if there's guys out there that your girl is not like Jen and is not going to go to it, because

Most people aren't wired that way. I'm that way. I'm a very curious person. But most people aren't, right? They're not going to do that kind of work. Then you do it for your girl. Because once someone really knows and understands, I think if they really care about somebody, they'll feel differently about it and act differently about it.

So, you know, he can make fun of you listen to podcasts, but he should be fucking happy that you did. Oh, I think he is. I think it's more just like a little teasing. Of course, of course, of course. But anyway, listen, Jen, thank you so much. I fucking love this update. It's going up next Friday.

Okay, so look for it. And I can't wait. Go look at the comments on Spotify and I'll send you comments on my Patreon. Like literally, like I said, you got the most comments of any episode. I think on my Patreon. And you're going to get so many more. I can't wait to air this episode. Yeah, I'd love to see the comments.

And I really want to say, Kathy, like, thank you for having this podcast because, like, it's been so helpful to me and like so eye-opening. And really, like, I honestly, I can't thank you enough. And also, like, your listeners, like, the people who call in, you know, like, thank goodness, they're willing to talk about it because otherwise, like, I don't know, I wouldn't be able to you wouldn't have understood it right now. Yeah, exactly. And I'm like, listen, like, here we are talking about, like, how pegging, you know, you're like literally a strap on pegging your husband. And it's like, this is like a deep conversation. But you know what it is actually? And that's

what I love about my show. It is about sex, but it goes deeper. And I fucking love this episode. And I think it's so helpful because typically I am talking to people on the other side of things. So it's so great. And, you know, some women, I think will hear this episode. episode too, but I think it's also helpful for the men to hear from the other side. So thank you so much for calling it and sharing your journey. And keep me posting on any updates in the future. But look for the comments because they're coming next Friday. Yeah. Okay. And I'm also open if, you know, if there's any female partners out there that like aren't sure. Like I'm happy to talk to them. Yeah, you should start like a group or something, you know. Like, no, I mean, you laugh.

But like, I mean, you know, like a four like groups. That's what people do nowadays. You can like a place where women could come together and talk, you know, you could really be super helpful. But yeah, if anybody feels like if anybody is in this predicament and has found these podcasts because you're like Jen and you're looking for information because you found out your husband is into something like this, like email me and I'll put you in touch, right? Yeah, I'll put them in touch with you, right? I'll probably give you a not personal email. Yeah, perfect.

Create one. No, create one for sure. That's perfect. Yeah, create an email so that if anyone writes in, I could send them your way. Awesome. All right. Thanks, Jen. So happy for you. I really am. I love this story. I'm happy for me too. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available, not only in paperback and ebook, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out

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