Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 967 - BONUS EPISODE: Get Harder, Stay Harder and Get Your Hard-On Health Data with Dr. Elliot Justin

Episode Date: November 16, 2024

Dr. Elliot Justin called in to talk all about how to get harder, stay harder and how to get your hard-on. health data. Tune in to hear all about how his cock ring FIRMTECH not only makes your erection...s harder and helps them last longer, it gives you data on your nocturnal erections, how and why nocturnal erections are the leading indicator of cardiovascular health, the two categories of sex tech and how his cock ring fits into both, what his device monitors, the data you receive, how you receive it and what all means, how and why his cock ring differs from the other rings out there, the benefits of using a cock ring for self-pleasure as well as when pleasuring others, how and why cock rings are more helpful keeping men hard than medications that are out there, the average cock size and why so many get it wrong plus a whole lot more. Repeat for Mens Health Awareness month originally aired 4/2024 To get your FIRMTECH cock ring, click here and use code: Strictlyanon https://myfirmtech.com/?sca_ref=5975696.wjjtV4eCQW **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order https://beducate.me/anonymous60 Get BEDucated! For 60% off PLUS a FREE 24 hour trial, click the link and use code: anonymous60 *The information on this episode is not intended or implied to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. All content and information available through this episode is for general information purposes only. Please consult your health care provider before making any healthcare decisions or for guidance about a specific medical condition. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:43 So you can check it out. Okay. So let me get to my guest today. Now, today I have a super interesting episode and it is all about cock rings. Cock rings that could save your life. Okay. I have on Dr. Elliott Justin. He created a device.
Starting point is 00:03:01 He is a CEO and founder of Firm Tech. And he created a device called the Tech Ring, which basically is like a cock ring that gives you data while you're sleeping. It tracks your nocturnal boners. Why is that important? You're going to have to listen to the episode. He's going to fucking explain it. Dr. Justin is a doctor.
Starting point is 00:03:19 He is an expert in the sex tech world. This is his first product for men. he's eventually going to come out with a product for women, but this product to me is so fascinating and so important. And it's amazing that these kinds of products are available to guys right now. He explains what it's all about. Like I said, it's kind of like a sex toy, a cock ring, but it gives you data while you sleep.
Starting point is 00:03:43 And he talks about why the data that you get is super important because it's absolutely tied into your cardiovascular health. I love his product. If I was a guy, I would get it. You're definitely going to find it fascinating. He explains it all in this episode, and you're going to find it all super interesting. And then you're going to want to go buy one, because like I said, if I was a guy, I would too. So I'm going to get right to it and be right back on with Dr. Elliot Justin.
Starting point is 00:04:10 All of his information is going to be in the description. Okay, I'll be right back on with Dr. Justin. Hi, Dr. Elliott Justin. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you today? I'm great. Great to hear from you. I got an email about you and what you do, and I thought, oh, this is going to be super interesting
Starting point is 00:04:28 to my audience. I have a large male audience. And what you do now is you are the CEO and founder of firm tech. You're an expert in the sex tech world. And you're going to explain what sex tech means for people that don't even know what the fuck that means. But basically, you created something called the tech ring, which is a cock ring that enhances pleasure and also improves cardiac health.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Right. I know that ED is connected. A lot of times if you have that issue, the first thing they'll say is, oh, go to a cardiologist because there might be something wrong with your heart. Like that connection is direct, right? Is that why you're... It's direct. Yeah, that's why...
Starting point is 00:05:06 So this cockering, it's direct in that way, too. Well, I got involved in this because of urologist. By background, emergency medicine specialist. And then in 2015, I moved into medical technology. In addition to being emergency medicine specialist, and I can assure you that short of a heart attack or a stroke, there's no emergency that concerns in a man more than a limp dick. Oh my God, that's funny. I also founded a company many, many years ago, called Swift MZ that was the second oldest telemedic company in the United States. I got very interested in technology for remote patient management.
Starting point is 00:05:43 So I was contacted by a professor of urology at the University of Utah, the one. to count the number of nocturnal erections that men have. And I thought, what the fuck? Why do we care? Everyone knows about mourning wood. We laugh about it, but I was unaware of the profound significance of nocturnal erections. So in health care, he told me that doctrinal erections are a leading indicator of cardiovascular health.
Starting point is 00:06:09 And to say something is a leading indicator in healthcare is a very powerful statement. Yeah. High blood pressure, which afflicts many, many people and also which many, 80 million people have blood pressure devices at home, high blood pressure is not a leading indicator. It's an association with cardiovascular disease, and yet we pay an enormous amount of attention to it. To say a leading indicator means it's predictive. So if a man is monitoring his nocturnal erections, and that number, which should be about three to five, goes down to two or to one, that man has has a cardiovascular problem until proven otherwise, or a significant medication side effect.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Wow. With anti-hypertensis and antidepressants that are commonly prescribed, being the I call them the cock killers. They're also click killers as well too. Oh, totally, yeah. So when he mentioned this to me, I thought, wow, that's almost like a six vital sign. That's because so many men have diabetes, hypertension, atherosclerosis. Wouldn't it be great if men could monitor their cardiovascular health through their favorite body part? It would become a vital sign for every guy's most, not only every guy's most vital organ,
Starting point is 00:07:13 but a way of understanding that there are health as well too. Yeah. And it's pretty easy. And you're saying it's simple math. Like you used to have five hard arms at night. And now if you have two, there's a problem. And it's clear. You got a problem.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Yeah, interesting. So he, the challenge then, so when he said this to me, I said, well, wait a second, we can do even better because you're just concerned with minor nocturnal erections. But what interests meant more? What's going on at night where they're sleeping? What's going on when they're trying to have sex? Let's embed sensors into a cock ring, an erection ring. and have something that can only be worn overnight, but can be worn during sex.
Starting point is 00:07:53 And with this data, men can and can then measure the impact of diseases like diabetes, hypertension upon their sexual performance, medications. And I mentioned the end of hypertenses and the SSRIs that are so problematic, but also diet, exercise, supplements, even relationships upon their sexual performance. Wow. So that, so you're getting data in that cock ring. Correct. We have data now about men's sexual health that no one else in the world has. Because previously, the only device that could be used for this was something called the Ridscan.
Starting point is 00:08:28 It looks, goes back to the 1990s. It looks like something Dr. Frankenstein would put in your penis. You have wires coming out of it. It's attached to the big monitoring box. And you might have to go into a sleep lab. Well, you have to take this clunky huge thing home and kind of lie still on your back. And it's uncomfortable. I tried it once. And so I want to make come up with a wearable. I actually call this the world's first underwearable, just to be clever. So you and I live in this age of healthcare wearables. We know lots of people have smart watches, smart rings, smart cardiac bands.
Starting point is 00:08:58 You hit digital scales. And so in this age of digital health and wearables, there's this gap. And it's the most motivating gap in it's sex. Because what do men care more about? We'll make them pay more attention to their heart health, telling them that they need to take more steps, telling them that, hey, your penis is not working or will soon stop working. So if a man has a decreasing number of nocturnal erections and it goes to, say, down to 1 or 0, that man's going to happen is at a 56% risk, 56% chance risk of having, I suppose
Starting point is 00:09:33 I say patients, they're really customers, but I'm a doctor like calling patients. I'm aware of two men who have used our device to see their cardiac risk. both one guy was in his 50s the other guy was in the 60s and they were mining their nocturnal erections one had one started out with just two and he went to a doctor and he ended up with cardiac catheterization and the other guy went from five down to one over the course of four or five months and he also went to cardiologists and ended up getting catheterized so i'm not i can't say this type that i know that we've saved lives but i know that we've changed lives because ideally of course you want to pick up a cardiovascular problem before you have
Starting point is 00:10:12 the actual heart attack or stroke. For sure. Data is so important and it's so amazing that nowadays these kinds of things exist. That's what sex tech is, right? Just sort of taking technology, putting it into sex. And now you're adding that whole like the health care aspect to it. Yeah, sex tech in my mind falls into two categories and we're in one of them. So one category is about giving people information, critically, critically,
Starting point is 00:10:42 important information about their health because as the cliche goes, if you can track it, you can hack it and you need data in order to do that, not just some doctor's opinion or some friend's opinion, but data. Because one thing that our device gives people is personal data. And we doctors are kind of assholes about how we prescribe things. I don't know you. I don't, you're a woman. I don't know what you weigh. I don't know how old you are. But if you and I both went to a psychiatrist, for example, or an internist and say, hey, I got high blood pressure on or I'm depressed, they put us in the same medicine, regardless of our, without, because in medicine, we kind of generalize about people, where the data that we're giving people is
Starting point is 00:11:23 actionable and personable. So we have people who we see, for example, they benefit from testosterone therapy. Well, they don't, but you wouldn't know that. If they were seeing, if they both went to a doctor, they would take in the same dose, but our medicine, our, our data reveals who has a real problem. The other part of sex tech is just novelties. So it's, hey, you and I are having an affair, and right now we'll each watch in the same, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:49 generative porn on our virtual glasses, and we can play around and vibrate each other. That's a novelty. It's fun. And that's frankly, unfortunately, most of the money is gone. Because our device for men is, there are only two devices that provide the information that we do.
Starting point is 00:12:05 And the other device just counts and measure the duration, nocturnal erections, whereas our device measures hardness as well. And our device can be worn during penetrative sex during masturbation. So we give a lot more information than the only other product in the space. To get the nocturnal tracking data, we recommend people wear it at least four times because the sensors need to calibrate to people's body. After that, you can just, well, if you were an older person with diabetes or hypertension,
Starting point is 00:12:35 we'd say, hey, do it, use it four times a month. if you're a younger guy who are 50 with a risk factor maybe once a month twice a month we'll probably do it's not like you have to wear it all the time and you don't have to wear it for 24 hours low we do what people who do wear it for 24 hours they tend to be the people I only know who are doing that right now are very sexually active and they're actually looking to gamify it they want to gamify their data as opposed to oh my god hilarious they want they want gee I spent six hours hard out of the last 24 hours so so so and so what we we're doing is is unique and valuable it's it's a health product as well as but there's the other benefit is well put this way well this doctor came to me with this this this idea I realized that I would have to reinvent the cock ring so cock rings for 150 years have been made out of hard silicone they're uncomfortable they pinch men put up with them you can only wear them 20, 30 minutes. You have to have an erection first to put on because they choke off the blood supply. And they haven't really caught on. I'm 10% of straight men use who are sexually active
Starting point is 00:13:46 use cock rings and 90% of gay guys do. So one of the jokes we have at medical conventions like the American Rolls Association is, how do you tell it to everyone's pretty? This would be good for women who are trying to decide whether the guy's straight or gay. Yeah, tell me. Do you ask one question. Do you use a cock ring. The joke with the straight doctors, oh, I don't need pride. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:08 And the gay doctor's like, yeah, last night you got a better one. So men don't realize is that if you want to last longer, you want to have more pleasure, you actually, whether you have ED or don't have ED, you should put a ring on it. So in terms of reinventing the cock ring, I thought it had something worn overnight and cannot tell erections. One, it had to be covered.
Starting point is 00:14:30 comfortable. So we make ours out of a soft elastomer rather than silicone. Two, it had to allow arterial blood flow into the penis. Otherwise, these guys at night would not get a reaction because we'd be choking off the blood supply. And it'd be dangerous. So we had to come up with a right degree of compression that it would allow arterial blood in and only really marginally constrain the Venus return unless it were tightened. If you're wearing it for sex, we need to tighten it up in order to keep the blood in the penis. If you're just wearing it overnight for data, that's not necessary. So I was, our device opens and closes the hook for safety reasons. So it's easy on, easy off. That idea came from cured my wife's bra. I don't know about you. I don't know what you look like. I would say this. If you put on a bra that was four sizes too small, which is what a silicone cock when is like, you put on that bra. You want the damn thing off right away. Totally. So we had to, our thought with the ring was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, look, I was scratching my wife's back after, which I think probably about half of heterosexual sex
Starting point is 00:15:36 the world starts, then because guys are married or committed a relationship. Women want that bra off at night because it's uncomfortable because silicone is irritating to the skin. The silicone makes you adapt to it rather than adapting to you. And elastom is to the opposite. Elastom is in general adapt to you. So I was scratching her back and I looked down on the ground at her bra and thought, oh, a bra is a ring that opens and closes with a hook. why don't we make a cock ring instead of being like an o-shaped gasket a plumbing tool why don't we make
Starting point is 00:16:07 a ring that opens and closed with the hook so it's easy on easy off safe and and that's so that's so we've changed the form our rings can put on when men are soft when they're flaccid they can so it's you can put on discreetly you don't have to interrupt sex play to put it on the rings are also designed to put pressure over the erythra not choke off the eryther what does that do for men well it prolongs the ejaculation. And so for a man, the long of the ejaculation, the more powerful the orgasm. Right. So we hold more blood in. More blood is health in the penis. The more sensitive the penis is. We prolong the ejaculation. And we provide data. So that's, so, so we're accomplishing two missions. We're giving people data that's potentially life-changing. And we're also enhancing a man's
Starting point is 00:16:53 pleasure, but also with partner's pleasure as well, too, because a man who has a ring on knows is going to last. And that's a big confidence builder for men, but also for their partners. Yeah, and I think a lot of guys don't understand that because, like you said, a lot of straight guys probably never really ever used one. I only knew one guy that I had sex with that use it, but he had a getting it up problem. That's how he came to find them and use them. And that's why he had it in his drawer next to his bed and that we would use them. I kind of liked it. It was kind of fun having this extra thing sort of hitting you when they're penetrating. So it's pleasurable for the woman. we had well i'll talk about the vibration one second yeah but that's been but that's what women
Starting point is 00:17:31 report the ours is covered with our ring is covered with soft elastomir so put a little lub on that and that's a better surface more pleasurable surface area for many women because as women get older grinding clitoris on pubic bone or pubic air is not pleasurable i'm speaking for women of course but that's what i've been told by my wife and by other women so if you add something that's soft and alastomber in between it becomes and it has more surface area you're helping women as well too. And what does it actually feel like, that material that you're talking about?
Starting point is 00:18:02 I think, you know what it's stress balls like? Uh-huh. Stress bowl? It's like a stress ball. Okay, cool. People should go also like, I'm looking at it right now. If anyone's like in front of a computer
Starting point is 00:18:11 while you're talking, if they want to see what you're talking about, so my firm tech.com. We'll give out all the information later too, but I just wanted to tell people because I'm actually looking at it while we're speaking. So go on, sorry.
Starting point is 00:18:21 So beyond rock hard, yeah, there's Cochranard. There's nothing. There's no amount of oral, maginal, vaginal, vaginal, anal stimulation that's going to get a man harder than a ring. So it's really for, it's good for men, but it's also, it's for both partners. And we also have data that shows that a ring is more effective than a PD5 medication like Viagra or Saialis. Really? They'll be published data about that later on this year.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Yeah, because if I had the PD5 medications, which Viagra and Saialis are the big brands, they put more blood in the penis, but they're not very good at keeping it there. Oh, interesting. And most men's problem is not getting blood in. Most men's problems keeping it there. And that could be due to anxiety, alcohol, distraction, medications, too much marijuana. So the ring becomes an aid as well as an enhancer to that problem. I don't technically have ED. And my wife and I try to make love most nights.
Starting point is 00:19:19 We never used erection rings previously, but now we use them all the time. Interesting. Why? Because it's more pleasurable for both of us. And we find, you're simply younger than me, but at my age, I'm 71. My wife is 70. There's a sort of, hey, we're both turned on. This sort of rushed orgasm.
Starting point is 00:19:39 I think it's true for younger people as well, too. It's sort of rushed orgasm. But if a guy knows, well, I'm not going to lose his erection. And the woman knows that too. Well, suddenly you find, and my wife has been just changed are the lovemaking. a romance. We find ourselves making love longer, more positions, less direct stimulation, more edging, et cetera, you know, for both of us. And therefore, it's better. And that's kind of cool after being married for decades. Yeah, that's super interesting because you're not, like,
Starting point is 00:20:09 there's no, you're taking the guess workout. Like you said, you're going to last. So you don't have that worry. And the woman also knows so you could have more fun. Well, one of the, this is not about the data, but one of the things that, that in my mind, marriage and other guys complain about this with their wives or laugh about it both that women many women acknowledge is that in the middle of mutually engaging sex in a in a this is in a committed relationship or marriage women will suddenly start talking about something that happened at work something with their mother some with the kids because it's true yeah when you're comfortable with someone just a couple of years just two weeks ago my wife started came up with a really great
Starting point is 00:20:54 redesign idea for a bedroom. I didn't particularly want to hear about that moment, though. And if you have a ring, ordinarily, after all these decades in marriage, my reaction, what the fuck? Can I hold that thought for five, ten minutes? With a ring on, it's different. Okay, well, sure. We had one time, when I first came up with this material, it was, it was February, and I'm in Montana, and my wife suddenly remembered that she had left the garage door open. ordinarily after three decades of marriage, that would have been a WTF moment
Starting point is 00:21:27 and anger on my part and going to death without sex, both of us being grumpy. Yeah. Instead, I went downstairs, closed the garage hall, came back upstairs, and I still had a hard on.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Well, and as well, a guy with a hard on thinks differently than a guy who's lost his heart on. It's like you're in a drunk state, I always say that for sure. It's a different, you're in a different headspace. Yeah, and my wife laughed about it
Starting point is 00:21:49 because it was, because she actually, I said it was a test, but in a way, but it was a test of the impact of a ring as a confidence builder and erection sustainer upon upon lovemaking. Yeah, so what's super interesting about your device is that after four times of them using it, they're going to get their data, right? The person gets the data. You're going to explain to me exactly how it works when someone buys it, the whole process
Starting point is 00:22:14 and everything. But I'm assuming after that, it's like they have a great sex toy too. They could always continue to get that data and monitor it. because things could change at any time. But in between that time, they have a great cockering because you did say something before about I'll get to the vibration. It does also vibrate, right? So there's no vibrator now.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Oh, okay. The problem with vibrators in cock rings is that they're not in the right anatomic position for women. The clitoris is 3.5 centimeters away from the base of the dors from the penis. Right. So if the vibrators in the ring itself, it's not effective. And then there are devices that other companies make, which provide a rather large vibrator for women to grind on.
Starting point is 00:22:55 But in our focus group of women, women didn't like them. And the men didn't like them. The device was too big and obtrusive. And the device might look slick, but it's covered with silicone, which is not a soft, soft material. And so we have a vibrator coming out with called the duet. It's covered with a soft elastomer. It's small, smaller than.
Starting point is 00:23:20 then like the products by Lilo, We Vibe that are out in the market. And because our ring opens and closes, we can now slide things onto the ring. So the duet, vibrator. To add on. It can be slid off the ring or it can be slid off the ring. So it can be used solo by women. It can be used during penetrative sex. And a lot of guys start to use vibrators during masturbators as well, too.
Starting point is 00:23:45 So it can be used by a man as well. So it's modular. That's right. it can be it can be it's an attachment. Yeah, that's interesting. How long before that comes on market? July. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:23:57 That's pretty soon. We'll have the first ship that's supposed to arise the last week of July. So we will have a soft launch in August and then a hard launch in like a month later, late September probably. So if anyone's hearing this episode in that time and that's a great thing about podcast, they sort of live on forever. If anyone's listening to this in July or August, you could go to your website. That will be an ad on that people could throw in there. But without, and this might be a dumb question, I'm not a guy. Is it conquering something that a guy would use if they're jerking off or is it typically something that you use when you're having sex with someone?
Starting point is 00:24:26 I use it for both. Okay. Interesting. Why wouldn't you? If it's going to produce a more intense orgasm. And I would, we sold about 12,000 and we really try not to intrude upon people's privacy. So we have not asked what, aside from ask, we do ask about the data, but we've not asked whether people use it for. Yeah, that kind of data.
Starting point is 00:24:48 for sex or for masturbation. And you can't tell in the data, right? Like you can't tell, oh, at this time, this guy was like very performative, right? No, exactly. It's the way form looks the same, whether someone's masturbating or not masturbating. Yeah, so walk me through the process. Like somebody goes onto your website, they order the firm tech cockering. You know, how do they get their data?
Starting point is 00:25:12 Is it like connected to an app or you send it to them via email? We're in the Google and Apple stores. People can actually look at it before they buy it. It's Bluetooth enabled. When the device is on your body, the Bluetooth is off because there are people concerned about the radiation from the Bluetooth. These people are getting a lot more radiation from their cell phone in their pocket than they're getting from our device.
Starting point is 00:25:41 But that's it. The Bluetooth is off. And then the morning or after they have sex, They then repair, not reconnect, re-sync there, the device with their phone. The data is cyber protected. It goes to the cloud. When it goes to the cloud, the data is anonymized, meaning if I told the company them, hey, my address is eliot at myfirm.com, when I register the product, when it goes to the cloud,
Starting point is 00:26:11 the cloud would turn that into some random numbers. So we actually, we don't have that. It's only one person the company has access the data. And he has, because someone needed to for medical purposes. But we have a hippoc, he has a HIPA contract. We're compliant with the government's health privacy protection. So people, no one's going to know that somebody bought this is getting that data. Correct.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Right. And then, so is it on an app or, and, and my other question would be like, do they get, because you're a doctor, you're an MD, do you give them information, you're or is it just? We can give advice, but we can't give advice, but we can't prescribe. People can contact me, and hundreds have, and asked me to help them interpret their data because they're reluctant to discuss these things with a doctor. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Doctors do not do a good job in this area. I've never had a doctor warn me or tell me about the sexual side of the medication. I never had a doctor ask me about my marriage and my love life, and they should, because this is such an important part of people's overall health. And also now we know it's part of the cardiovascular health as well. So I, that's what we, we doctors need, we need to a better job about this, but we're not going to. So this, so people get the data. It looks, the data looks kind of looks like what people get with an Apple, the smart Apple watch or with a whoop or an aura. We give people an overall erectile fitness score. We tell them the number and duration of their
Starting point is 00:27:41 nocturnal erections. We tell them the hardness of all their erections, and people can then, are then empowered with personal, objective, actionable data. Now, this might be a dumb question, but I'm assuming, because you created this device to pick up the data, that guys don't know how many nocturnal hard-ons they're having, correct? Correct. They're no idea what's sleeping. You don't know how many nocturnal erections you're getting. I'm getting them too. And you are getting them. Yeah, women have them too.
Starting point is 00:28:14 No way. What happens to them? What, your click gets engorged and like that? The click gets engorged. Uh-huh. And no one is, no one has really studied this as Massson Johnson. But we have. And we have, so we have developed a device for women that will do this.
Starting point is 00:28:30 We just, we hope to bring that that device out in 2025 contingent upon a fundraise. And that information for women is going to tell them, what about themselves? Actually, it's going to be more valuable. Well, it's going to be a broader use to women than of men. In what way? Why is that? Well, post-metapolesal, pre-menopause of women have protection,
Starting point is 00:28:53 some due to protection against heart disease, but post-menopausal women have all the same problems that men do with hypertension, athosclerosis, diabetes. Totally, yep. And more of a problem with obesity than men do. But pre-manipausal women take hormones for birth control, and they take the hormones birth control
Starting point is 00:29:11 and they take SRI into depressants five or six times as men do and those things are killers of their libido and their sexual performance totally
Starting point is 00:29:20 also the birth control pill kills your libido too yeah the hormones so if you have data you can then say what's working for me what's not working for me what's the right dose
Starting point is 00:29:31 what I can titrate the dose so what we're doing is going to transform not just urology but also gynecology yeah I'm someone that loves data. I think you could get so much from it.
Starting point is 00:29:43 And I'm also someone that knows that, listen, you cannot prescribe to me what you prescribe to somebody that lives down the block for me. We're all so different. I've got that thing that I put on my arm that diabetics get to see how my body reacts to different food. And just because my body reacts to something one way doesn't mean that somebody else is going to react the same. It's so specific.
Starting point is 00:30:04 And I love that this kind of information, the fact that it's available to people and people could go out and get it is unbelievable if you really think about it, right? Because we were all sort of bound to our doctors and they never, like you said, they kind of like it's a one size fits all. And that to me was never like the best way to go about things. And it's amazing that people can go out buy your device and get that kind of data for themselves. And because that wasn't the case 10 years ago. That's right. Well, this, we, our product has really only been available for a year and a half. and so it's but I'm confident
Starting point is 00:30:40 that we'll become a standard of care standard for care and standard for research in the future not necessarily our device because all the companies will make the same time I think we're making but that our push
Starting point is 00:30:48 to deliver objective data about sexual health and its reflection upon cardiovascular health that will look in the future if a 50 year old man goes to a doctor
Starting point is 00:30:59 and they don't want to know that that guy's a rectal fitness score it'd be like going to a doctor and a doctor not taking a blood pressure It will become a standard for care. But I also think a lot of guys, because like you said, a guy wants to very much tie to his ego is hard on. So a lot of guys don't necessarily want to walk into a doctor's office and look at another man and be like, hey, I can't fucking get it up.
Starting point is 00:31:20 So what's great about this is it's also kind of in the privacy of your own home. You're getting that data. You don't have to go talk to somebody about your quote unquote problem that you think you might have. So I think that that's another benefit. That's correct. Yeah. And listen, I think a lot of guys. I just don't know that this type of thing is available.
Starting point is 00:31:38 I don't know. Why aren't you on Shark Tank? Did you go on Shark Tank before? I love Shark Tank. It takes like it takes three as you on Shark Tank and it's hard to get on. Go on. I love Shark Tank. Go on for your female product.
Starting point is 00:31:49 It's hard. It's hard. We run David Meltz's two minute drill. And one thing that that's inhibiting. We're marking ourselves predominantly, frankly, through podcasts. Uh-huh. It's great. People find us or people find us online.
Starting point is 00:32:04 There are four research. papers that will be published this year. There'll be another four to six research published next year because we want doctors to know this is out there. We just don't have the money. We don't have the money for a big media buy. There are companies in this space. They're spending $8,000 a day on marketing and they're selling junk.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Yeah. But, you know, if you have a lot of money, you can sell anything because people have hopes. And an example of that are all the nature pseudicles. You can go into gas stations and pharmacies around the country. And for men and women, you can buy something that's supposed it's going to make your heart stronger or make you hornier. And most, almost all those oral products don't work. But people have hopes, so they spend the money.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Yeah, well, listen, I think a lot of people listening now, a lot of people probably never knew that a product like this existed. They want to get it. And I think, like, it's not even that expensive. Like, why don't you give out some details? Because what I'm looking at is, like, it's not a lot of money. we have we have with two the high end product is a tech ring and and this and it's 275 which is about almost half the price or a little bit more half the price of of a smart watch or a smart ring and what do men care more about their penis or the how many steps it took yesterday
Starting point is 00:33:20 right that's a rhetorical question and this so and then we have a device called the maximum performance ring and so this is device without technology it's 60 dollars but this is a device that is designed to do two things. One, if you're, if you have ED, it will keep you longer. It'll help to stay in your action. If you don't have ED, it'll do
Starting point is 00:33:44 the same thing and it'll also intensify your orgasm. For all men, it will intensify their orgasm. So how do we do that? We put the maximum performance ring. The tech ring is softer. It needs to be worn, it has to be worn overnight. And it can be made tighter for pleasure
Starting point is 00:33:59 by sliding it through the loop. The maximum performance ring is, it's tighter. It's just, it's a stiffer elastomer. It really should only be worn for maybe 90 minutes at the most. And it's specifically designed, though, to put pressure over the erythroar to prolong the ejaculation. So by my ejaculation with the maximum performance ring goes from four seconds to seven seconds. Wow. That's an intense orgasm.
Starting point is 00:34:25 And most guys, because they masturbate so much, they consider themselves to be gourmet, or connoisseurs of their own orgasm. I never, like I never used an erection ring because I didn't need one, but now that my wife and I don't have sucked out the maximum performance ring. And I don't think,
Starting point is 00:34:41 if I go to bed without it, she'll say, well, don't tell the ring on? Yeah. Because she wants me, she wants me to have a maximum experience. And she also wants for herself too. Because as I said before,
Starting point is 00:34:55 we, it's just not the, the rush to penetrate, get on, when you know that you're going to be hard for a long a period of time. And doesn't that time of orgasm change as you get older anyway? Because I know that I see with my guy friends as we've gotten older. Their concerns are like, did I come as much?
Starting point is 00:35:14 Did I last as long? Is my dick as big? Because I think guys, they're hyper-fixated on their cocks their whole life, right? They know what's going down and what's happening. And there is a change that happens as you get older. And I think, and we also live all ages now. People start people doing more work on male body dysmorphia. I mean, they've always always been an issue for women.
Starting point is 00:35:34 I mean, you know, going back to Twiggy. Yeah, yeah, for sure. And the anorexid nervosa, women have body image problems. And back in the clothing might have been a lot more uncomfortable back in the 19th, early 20th century. But it's also a lot more forgiving of women's, what happens naturally women's figures. Well, men have the same missions now, too. And they know that they're competing with porn. Men, women, too.
Starting point is 00:35:57 They compete with porn. There was a time to share an act. This goes back away. My daughter, I was a junior in high school, and she had a bunch of her girlfriends over, and I was cooking dinner for that mom. I'm a really good cook. And the girls are talking about how small the boys,
Starting point is 00:36:18 one of the boys' penises in Bozeman High School here in town because it's so small. Oh, my God. And I thought, I'd say, you guys just washing porn. These guys, I'm certain these guys are average. And then I said, you know what they're probably thinking about you? The girls looked at me and said, they're probably thinking we're all flat chest.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Because that's because porn, you know. Yeah. And another recent conversation had my daughter who, she just got engaged. And so she's having a girl party with some of her friends. And the girls are talking about the seven girls there. They're talking about penis eyes. And so Eleanor, my daughter, because she knows about this business, she knows what the average.
Starting point is 00:36:55 We actually provide on the website. a calculator penis sizes so people know where they stand. Oh, interesting, really? Yeah. So she said, well, how big your boyfriends or husbands? And the girls, well, the smallest one was like seven inches. And Ellen just laughed because there's no way. Because, but that comes from porn.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Yeah, 100%. Totally. And it's sad because nowadays porn is so easily available to the younger generation that they're having a very unrealistic sort of view of real life, right? on both ends for women and men. Yeah. But you'll tell you to your point, men do have this concern that they might not have had 50 years ago. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Not just the older guys, too, like you're saying. Younger, the younger, yeah. You're right. Cause of porn. The rate of ED among men aged 30 has doubled in the last 20 years. Wow. And do you think it's because, well, I think it's, I think it's performance anxiety. I think these guys are.
Starting point is 00:37:51 And then people, that's not just porn. It's just, you watch the Game Thrones or HBO sex. Yeah, it's a nice. fantasy. I'm going to throw someone up against the wall and she's going to wrap her legs around me and we're both going to get off in three minutes. That's not the real world. Nor is it she's going to push her back on the bed, tear my clothing off and she's going to ride me and we're both going to get off in 90 seconds. That's not the real world. And actually it shouldn't be because people, so at medical sexology conferences, they talk about how the average man comes in seven minutes,
Starting point is 00:38:20 the average woman comes in 14 minutes. What does that really mean? Is that the average of guys who are 20, the average guys who were 70. And what should people want? So what people really should want is to draw out the pleasure. Why just, I mean, if I came in seven minutes, both my wife and I, both of us would be disappointed because we don't want that. Like you, we want a more romantic, emotionally engaging experience. And that means you got to take yourself and your partner to the edge, opposed to porn sex.
Starting point is 00:38:54 So it's just a people need to, people, oh, I put this way, people need to communicate with the partners better about what is it they want and they need, and rings, and they need, just the way vibrators that have gone mainstream, vibratees back in the 80s people, women are like, oh, it's not really an natural orgasm. Now they're, now they're mainstream. My daughter takes them on dates. Many, men think that way about cock rings. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:18 It is not an aid. It's not a crutch. It's an enhancer. And if you do, that's for all men. if you do have a problem, why wouldn't you want to use something that's going to make it better? I used to always feel bad for guys because I loved sex toys and I'd always go shopping at different times. Adam and Eve and fill up my card and it would get that box and you got all this things to play with it. I'd be like, guys don't have that much.
Starting point is 00:39:42 What do guys have? Like I don't know that guys sort of tap into that market, but there are toys. It's not there for them. Yeah. It's simply, I just kind of amused me because I continually hear complaints and women to how men get, Men get all the attention and the money spent on them. But it really isn't. If you go to a sex toy expo and I've been to quite a few,
Starting point is 00:40:01 they're all for women. Given this forest of dildos and vibrators and if you exclude the condoms, it's all for women. And then for men, you have these ineffective, ugly strokers. You can't approve on a hand or a mouth. And then you have these. Oh my God, they have lips on the end of them. They're so funny looking. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:17 So they haven't caught on. They have concrete reasons. They're ugly and they're ineffective. So we're really trying to focus on one providing people with life changing, with really valuable data, but also with enhancing their pleasure in a way that's comes from physiology, that's derived from, practically from my knowledge of the human body. We want to, what is an erection about? Well, there's blood that goes in, a blood that comes out.
Starting point is 00:40:46 So you want to maximize the blood in and you want to minimize the blood that comes out. and you want to minimize the blood that comes out. I want to constrain the return. And the best solution is a ring plus a PD5 medication. So we did a study of D2 medicines. So to messes, the medical term, is the time it takes to get erect. D-tumessence, the time it takes the erections go down after climax. So the more blood that's held in the penis, the long of the demescence phase will be.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Now, the erection goes away in 25 to 35 seconds with not. nothing. With teada fill 10 milligrams, the erection goes away in two, two and a half minutes with a ring, our ring, of course, but the maximum performance ring, it goes away in about four, a little bit of four minutes. And we're both together, it's a little bit of five minutes. So what's the takeaway for that is, hey, man, whether you have E.D or don't have E.D. Put a ring on it and take a pill. And don't think, don't think about these things as crutches. Think about them as enhanced. Think of these things should be, we need to, You guys just mentioned some earlier that just kind of tweaked me. Early on in my medical career, I'm 71 years old. I mean, the 70s and the 80s, women were still referred to as being frigid or hysteric. Totally. And no, an orgasmic. Those, I don't hear, though, I haven't heard the word frigid describe a woman ever in decades,
Starting point is 00:42:10 you know, really in decades. Yeah. But guys get described as bit as impotent, limp dick, noodle dick. It's still okay. Yeah. To ridicule men. And this just, of course, intensifies their insecurities, their anxieties. If they do have a problem.
Starting point is 00:42:24 So we just, so, you know, and similarly, vibrate as regarded as crutches, not as enhancing. And now it totally changed women. And we need to change that for men. We need to mainstream cock rings, effective and comfortable cock rings as, as enhances of pleasure. And we need to, you know, and we need to stop. And we, you know, we as a culture, need to stop ridiculing men. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:51 And I honestly think that that, like, the whole ridiculing of men comes from men themselves. You know, women are very forgiving of certain things. Like, when I met that guy and he couldn't get it up and he had a cockering, I couldn't give it a shit. I really liked him. Do you know what I mean? Like, that's just how women roll. Like, we're not like, oh, my God, you can't get it up, dump him, leave.
Starting point is 00:43:08 I don't know. It's just women, you bring home a cockering. She's not going to think anything of it. I just think it's more of a hangup that guys have for, themselves. Yeah, and they need to get over it. Like I said, I always felt bad for guys. Like they don't have all these fun toys. Go get yourself a cockering and use it as a toy. And then the fact that there's data on top of it that could save your life, why not have that? Like to me, that's what that's the beauty of these times. That's what technology is all about. Like a lot of people are like, oh, technology,
Starting point is 00:43:37 it brings us all this bad stuff. Yeah, there's always going to be bad connected. But the good stuff that comes with technology is this kind of information. Like I said, the fact that I could put something on my arm and get information of how my blood glucose level goes when I eat certain things is a fucking amazing. And the fact that a guy, because like you said, 1,000 percent, a guy's cock is like the most important thing. I think that's the data they want the most. And I just think a lot of guys haven't bought your data cockering yet because they don't know it exists, but they should run out to get it. Because it's, it is a toy, but it's also going to give you this important information that I think, like you said, it can happen. Your health changes at all time. So to have this
Starting point is 00:44:19 in your back pocket and get that data whenever you want it is great. And you can use it that way, right? You could use it in the beginning and two years from now, put it on and use it. Especially at my age. I check my data about two to four times a month because it's an early warning sign of a hot attack or struggle. Why wouldn't I? I'd be an idiot not to. Yeah. I don't understand people that aren't curious about that any kind of data that's available. You know what I mean? It's literally like the difference between life and death on a certain level, right? And I just don't understand. I think that I see my body like a car. The more I take good care of it, the more I put it into for its yearly checkups and everything. That's going to be, that's a car 10 years later. It's going to be healthier than the person that doesn't never feeds their, takes care of their car. And just so many people don't sort of focus on those things and I think that they should. And like I said before, what's great is that right now we are in a time where it's easier. to take care of yourself than it ever has been
Starting point is 00:45:18 because you could do it in the privacy of your own home. You could get any kind of blood test you want nowadays, right? Now you could get data on how many hard ons you're having in the middle of the night. And that, like you said, is directly related to your cardiovascular health. Like every guy over a certain age needs that information. That's right.
Starting point is 00:45:39 That's exactly right. Yeah, for sure. I'm all for it. I'm going to push your fucking product. I love it. I think it's great. I'm like one of those people that is obsessed with data. Like I said, I don't understand people that aren't.
Starting point is 00:45:50 I just highly recommend it because I think that it's great. I think that your prices also are really great. And then the positive is that it's also a sex toy and that's how people should look at it. There's nothing wrong with that. That's fucking fun and guys need to get over it and should try cock rings, like you said, even just for the pleasure. Why don't you give out all of your information and all that kind of good stuff? so people know where to find you, know what to buy, know that they could email you to get the data,
Starting point is 00:46:20 what the data is going to look like, all that kind of stuff. Well, you can learn more about us online at my, M-Y-Firm-R-M-T-E-C-H dot com, my-FirmTec.com. You can contact me directly at Elliott, E-L-L-O-T-O-T-C-com. We're also in Amazon, although, of course, rather you come to us rather than go to Amazon. Yeah, yeah. And we are in the performance ring is in certain sex toy stores. But again, we obviously would rather people to shop online for us.
Starting point is 00:46:55 It benefits the company more. Yeah. So you'll, no, I'm going to put a link directly to your website. And then I will have a coupon code because you're going to give my listeners some sort of discount, right? If they use my code. That's exactly right. All right. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:47:08 So the code is strictly a non. I'll put that in there. And then they will get a discount on what they buy. Is it just for the one product? Is it for either or? The discount is for all products. Okay, great. So what is the discount?
Starting point is 00:47:22 10%. Okay, so it's 10% of whatever they buy off your website, right? That's where they got to use it. It's going to be strictly anon. And we talked about here, the firm tech ring, right? That's the 275 product. You have the firm performance ring, which is 60. You have a couple other products on there.
Starting point is 00:47:39 And we have the maximum performance ring. So the maximum performance. ring is for most men. The performance ring is for men who are who are genuinely large her. Oh, interesting. Okay. And we have a calculator for men who are in the 95th percentile or better,
Starting point is 00:47:55 and they can calculate that. Where's that calculator? It's on the website. Oh, okay, but like we're on the website, because I'm looking for it when you were so brought it up. I was like, where the fuck is this calculator? I found it. You click on will firm tech rings fit me? You click on that, and that's going to
Starting point is 00:48:12 say, check my size and you click there. Okay. Okay. So if you don't see it right on the website, go into that chat box. And that's where people, I feel like a lot of people are just going to go check their size. Don't you think? Yeah, I do.
Starting point is 00:48:26 I know how these guys think. We have had guys who have gotten their performance ring and then they can be swapped back because they really aren't that big. Oh, I got hilarious. And we have swapped a few times. And you have? Because they needed smaller. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:42 They sized up. The bell curve for penis size is really steep. Most men are within half, while within half three quarter centimeters of the median. So it's not, I'll put this way, there's a lot less variability with cock size and the wrist size, a lot less variability. There is.
Starting point is 00:49:01 I was always wearing the wrong bra for a really long time. How did I know? No, seriously, it's hard to figure out your size. But you're saying it's easier to find a guy size. It is, yeah. Yeah. Because almost everyone is within a centimeter of someone else. And what do you, would you say?
Starting point is 00:49:20 Do you know, I feel like you would have this data because I talk about dick size a lot of my show and people are obsessed with that topic. People will be like, oh, the average is 6 to 8. And I'm like, no way. To me, the average seems like 4 to 6. What is the average size? Do you know? I believe it off the top of my head, I'd have to go back to the graph.
Starting point is 00:49:35 I think the meeting is 5 and 7, 5 and 3 quarter inches. Oh, okay. So somewhere in between what I said, the 4 and 6, right? Just shy of 6. is the average. And I don't think that women or men can spot the difference between five and a quarter and six and a quarter. They just definitely not.
Starting point is 00:49:54 Definitely. And I don't think that they care about that little thing. But I think guys do. And that's why they need to get your cockering because it's going to make them last longer, stay hard. And I think that there are women who now care. But I think they're under the influence of porn. Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Yeah. Women watch more porn than you can imagine. Oh yeah, for sure. I had a woman on who created a porn site called Afterglow. It was kind of like porn for women made by women. And you know what the number one thing that women googled for porn was gang bang. Gang bang porn. Now I know if I have someone on my show that did a gangbang. I know a lot of guys are clicking on my episode, but I didn't realize it's also the hottest fantasy for women too. That's the porn they look at. Besides girl and girl porn, it's gang bang porn. Well, and I think I doesn't interest me at all, but I know there's a, I know there's a, and women, feminists especially complain about porn up that so much of it is, is a lot of rape fantasy porn. Yeah. But then porn hubs, there's some sexologist who did a survey with porn hub, and 40% of the women watching, 40% of people watching rape, rape porn, really aggressive, dominating porn were women.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Yes. Yes. And. Yes, that's true. That's a big fantasy for women. It's one of the most common one, I think. Yeah. And if you want, again, it gets back to my mind, HBO and then Game of Thrones porn.
Starting point is 00:51:17 It's just it, those scenes are not there to appeal to men. Those scenes are actually there to appeal to women. Yeah, totally, totally. Well, your product is for men right now. Hopefully you're going to bring out, when you bring out the women's product, come back on my show. We'll talk about that too. It'll be about a year. But yes, I love to.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Yeah, I love it. So listen, I love what you're doing. I think it's great. I highly recommend your product. If I was a guy, I'd buy it, okay? Because I love data, and I think it's super important. And I love that you don't have to go to the doctor and ask for it. You could order it straight to your house and get so much information.
Starting point is 00:51:50 And then also see how great it is to put on a cockering and use it, even when you're just having fun. And how much your girl's going to love it, too, because like I said, I enjoy a cockering. Like, it feels good for the women. You're going to love ours. Yeah. Okay. So listen, Dr. Elliot.
Starting point is 00:52:04 Thank you so much for coming on. I think that this was super informative. I think the right guys are going to hear this episode. And I hope that you get a lot of sales because I think what you're selling is amazing. And I think it's great for men. And I think that they should try it. So thanks so much for coming on the show. And I'll put all of your information in the description of this episode for people.
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Starting point is 00:54:44 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person. And they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person. And I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of the. They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format, paperback format.
Starting point is 00:55:18 And finally, the audio book is available coming out August 25th. But you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint. Okay. There's no way you get into my Discord. way than getting the link from me. Okay. I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Everybody shares content with each other. And that's what you get to do there. You can post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you can win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total strictly anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my discord. It's private. Like I said, all you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook, or the paperback. Send it to me at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com. That's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com.
Starting point is 00:56:20 And I will send you the link to Discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in. This is the Strictly Anonymous Podcast.

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