Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 972 - Kevin is a Cuck Swinger Into BDSM Who now has a Mommy Dom

Episode Date: November 22, 2024

Kevin was a swinger into bdsm and he now has a mommy dom and he called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including his hippie background and how he found out his parents were swingers, how and when his first wife brought up being with others, the first chick they hooked up with and what went down, how she then started hooking up with guys and how that helped him realize he was a cuck then, how and why he was never jealous seeing his wife with other guys, how they then started hooking up with couples and going to swinger parties, the clubs in San Francisco he went to that got into bdsm, how he got divorced and then met his second wife and how and why that marriage ended, why he considers himself as demi-sexual, how he met his mommy don and got her to switch from being a. Sub, what he is into and what she wants to do, why he wants to wait to have sex with her, how he suckles her and what he likes about it, the rules they have, his cuck fantasies he wants to live out with her and why he hasn’t lived them out with her yet plus a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order https://beducate.me/anonymous60 Get BEDucated! For 60% off PLUS a FREE 24-hour trial, click the link and use code: anonymous60 https://www.magicmind.com/sac  You have a limited offer you can use now, that gets you up to 48% off your first subscription or 20% off one-time purchases with code SAC20 at checkout To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Kevin's got two halves of a story. first we discuss the fact that he grew up in a very hippie lifestyle and wound up becoming a swinger early on with his first wife and they swung or were swingers the whole time they were married and he talks about all the stuff that they did

then he really got into BDSM like that was something that stuck out to him and that plays into the second part of his story where he marries another woman their marriage winds up to be sexless and he does wind up going and fulfilling his like sub-fand is cuck sub fantasies. He always knew actually when he was like a cuck, he was kind of like a sub,

but he always wanted a dom, so he went looking for one. And he found one. He's had a couple of them, but one he's currently seeing and he talks about their situation and the things that she gets him to do and what he loves about it. And he's eventually wants to be cuckled by her. And he talks about that, why they haven't done it yet, and all that kind of good stuff. So like I said, The first part is all about his swinging lifestyle and everything he did in his first marriage. And the second half is all about his Dom and him being a sub and all the things that he's into. It's a super interesting story. So anyway, I'm going to get right to it and be right back on.

Hey, Kevin. Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? I'm doing good. Thank you for having me. No, thanks for coming on. You wanted to be called Baby Boy. And I'm like, how the fuck am I going to put Baby Boy in a title without it sounding gross?

I don't know. But you do have a mistress, Dom. Mama, Mama, Dom, or so, I don't know, you got a lot of stuff going on. And I was like, okay, we have two things actually going on. We're going to spend half the time talking about your swinger background, your first wife, you guys were swingers. He did all kinds of crazy things. And then that ended, you have a new wife. And now a whole other thing that's super interesting on its own is like, you have a wife.

You'll explain why you started cheating on her. And now you have a mistress. And she is your like mama dom. And you have a really weird, interesting dynamic. going on over there that we will get into. I'm just going to tease. I'm not going to tell everyone what's going on, but we're going to do that last, right? But why don't we start back at the beginning with your first wife, the wife that you were swinging with? Actually, we're going to start a little ahead before that. We're going to start when I was younger. Okay. And my parents were

hippies. I was born in the hippie era, you know, 69. Kind of guess is my age, 54. My parents were, I remember being young one time and I woke up. I can hear banging. So I went from my room into, I can hear my kid, my mom. And I'm, you know, I was young, super young. I don't remember the age. But I opened the door and my dad's on top of one woman and my mom's on top of a dude in the bed. So I guess I was about five or six years old and I'm like, yeah.

And I'm like, so I started crying. And I thought they were attacking. each other. It took me years later on to figure out, wait a minute, this is a swinging, late 60s, 70s. They were swingers. So it kind of got introduced into me that kind of like just open lifestyle very early on. Well, were they eventually very open with it? I mean, listen, I know you walked in on it, but eventually later when you were like growing up, were they, were you in the know, like that your parents were that way or was it still hush-hush, but you kind of knew because of what you saw? I knew from what I saw. My dad was open because he was just like open. My mother was never.

She was, she kind of became really religious and real like, I'm afraid you saw all of this. And I'm, you know, she felt guilty about it because of religion. Oh, okay. But she was doing it. That's typical religious people. Yes, extremely right, right. Yep. As time went on, they divorced.

And my mom, before, this is again, a little bit before she became religious, she started taking me to like pride parade things over here in the Bay Area, because I'll give you the area up from the Bay Area here in San Francisco. And I just kind of got used to that being the life. You know, I was, you know, so I really opened me up as starting early on. And that kind of like brought into my first marriage. I met this lady. We were married for about three years.

And in those three years, one day in bed, when we were like, you know, just fooling around. She goes, you know, I never dated men before you. You're the first man I dated. And I'm like, okay, you know, every woman probably tells a guy bad. But she goes, would you be interested in, or I don't remember how it came about. Again, this is years ago. She basically threw it out there that she would love to be with another woman in front of me.

She did. It was her idea. She brought this in. Yes. And again, she was pretty, you know, pretty vanilla person. I was the one with the very open-minded and had these thoughts and, you know, how men, you guys, we masturbate about everything. Yeah. We, and I was very much in a fantasy back then.

So it took me a little bit of time and we talked each other into it. We did the thing where I know you've talked about on the show where you introduce it into your own sex life as a fantasy. Yeah. So while you're both going at it, you know, you just kind of introduced that fantasy in there. And that's exactly how it happened. It started happening. So, yeah, we, we had many. different unicorns.

I wanted to see her with other men. We did that. We did couples. I'm probably glossing over a whole bunch of stuff. If you want to stop me. Yeah, you kind of are. You kind of are. I mean, first you just said we did what we started, what you say, a lot of people start

doing fantasies. What's that, like, when does it switch to reality was the first time, like, you went to a swingers club or you went online and met a unicorn? Like, what was that first thing that you guys did? because that's a big moment. It happened because so the other thing is I'm a musician. So we were always playing gigs. So she would go to the gigs.

We'd have many friends. There was always drunk people, right? It comes to the alcohol. And so they're mixed into the bag. So one day, you know, I remember being at a bar and she was drunk and she was close to me. And so her friend or something, she just turns and kisses her right in front of it. And then they start making out.

And I'm like, oh, shit. We're all, you know, I don't think I was at. drunk as they are because I've never really been a big drinker. But she just started making out with this chick. The next thing I knew, they had their hand down each other's pants. I knew this chick a little bit. She was closer to her than she was. It didn't go anything further than that, but we went home and we, you know,

we fantasized all about that. And so back in the day, we're talking kind of maybe before Internet. There was like magazines. I think it was SLS, which is what? I don't even know if they're around anymore. We got on there after, you know, we had had all this kiki talk about it. And we didn't go with a friend because we're like, we want somebody we don't know. Never in your same house, it would be at a hotel, you know, at least at first.

Because, you know, you said all these rules and then they all get thrown off the window eventually because, you know, your freaking ass just takes over. So we, we, I remember it was a smaller chick than her. She was a thicker chick. We met her at a bar in this hotel room. in the Bay Area. I don't only want to point out where. And they started talking. I was there.

We moved it up to the bedroom. I say for the first three or four different women unicorns she had, I never touched any of them because that was our agreement. I was just to watch. I couldn't even really touch myself, you know, very lightly over my pants. She had set these rules. Again, this is where my submissive and my cuckholdness kind of comes through, you know, early on and it took me while to realize that, you know, that's why, you know, I've been thinking

this. That's why I've been kind of that type of guy, you know, since then anyway. So yeah, she, we, we, she, she got, she went down on this chick. She was always more the aggressor, um, than most women. And she did hate that because it was always really hard for her to find a woman that would kind of overbear her. She was more dumb. She wanted, she wanted to be more submissive, but she always found, uh, she was, she was more dominant. Okay. Um, and that's kind of how it started was was the first was the, was the, again, yep, with women. And then I, you know, I think that, you know, we were already past that point where it was okay. And I started admitting to her, like, I'd love to see you with a guy. I don't even have to be involved, you know, and I think we did the first one

was like a kind of a halfway, um, three way, uh, three way where I was a little bit involved. if she was a little involved. I don't remember a lot of details under them. There was definitely condoms used. I didn't do so well performing. I was more of, I don't do so well performing in front of people or crowds, which just sucks because back then that's all I wanted us to do was swing.

Oh, really? Like why you were a little exhibitionist, you wanted to be in front of people, but for some reason you were too nervous, I don't know, get it. Correct. Yeah, exactly. I'm very, you know, it's funny I can play music in front of people.

like a target in front of people, but this was something different. I don't know what it was. I could not overcome the fact that I had people around me, and it was hard for me to get it up sometime, you know, and it happens. It happens a lot in most. So we brought guys in, and most of the time it was just this guy, you know,

banging her, you know, them fooling around, me kind of watching, me kind of masturbating watching. And it was, it, it, again, it would once in a while turn into like her blowing me and while the dude's banging her and I loved it, you know, and I've been, we both all would come, but it was rarely me banging her with him. Again, I just kind of could not get over that. This Black Friday season, instead of just buying a bunch of stuff that's temporary, why not

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my code anonymous 60. Use code anonymous 60. Use it now for 60% off plus a free 24-hour trial. Dang it and I loved it. You know, and I've been we both all. all would come, but it was rarely me banging her with him again. I just kind of could not get over that. But also, because you did say, like, looking back, you realize you were always kind of a little bit of a cuck. Like, I mean, did you even care that you weren't involved? Like, was maybe sitting back and watching and doing what you were doing, like,

enough for you anyway because you kind of were like a cuck? It was. It was totally okay. So, you know, that's funny you should say it, because anytime it became a problem, was whenever she would ask. Right. I didn't care. And I'm like,

no, I kind of like watching you bang the guy. I kind of like watching it, fuck you, you know. Yeah. I don't, I'm good.

You know, I'm good with touching myself. You know, I think we took a very little pictures back then. Mm-hmm. But I was. I was totally good. Good with it.

And again, that's when I kind of realize, you know what? You're a cuck. Totally. You're okay with watching these guys, these guys bang, you know,

you check. It turns me on. And I think I had mentioned early on in your comments, too, about a compersion. I knew I had conversion because I was not one time was I ever jealous by it. I was so turned on by it that there was zero jealousy on any of it. Yeah.

I think the second or third time I may have ever really experienced jealousy was she brought this chick over and this chick did not want to do stuff with her in front of me. And so she kicked me out of the room or I went to go get pizza or something and I came back and the door was locked. And I was mad. But they were still in there doing it. And that was the one time I had like this like, you know, vicious, just jealousy. Of course.

That's the fear of missing out. That's not jealousy. That's FOMO. Yeah. So that's the one time, you know, I think at the end, she, you know, she hugged me and apologize. And we kind of got off on me not seeing it. And again, that was kind of, you know.

So it's funny how I was mad at first. And then we kind of turned it around and made. kind of a fetish, you know, you're not going to be able to see. Next time I'm going to blindfold you and turn you around and you're going to be a good boy, you know? Only in this world does that make sense. No one else would fucking understand that. Yeah, only us freaks.

Where was I? So, oh, so then we kind of, after this first solo women and then the solo men, we started delving into couples. We started becoming friends with couples at like, and we're talking. talking to eight years span of our 13 year marriage. And I would say what's about in the middle of that. So three years, eight years, that's 8, 1911. And then if you count like the last two or three years, that was when, you know, the marriage had ended. So, but I'm going to go back to the eight years. Um, towards the end of it, we were getting into couples. We were going to swinger

parties. I don't know if any of your, I don't remember if any of your guests ever talk about a swing or party where there's a house in the middle of the skin behind the cold, actors, all these cars, parts everywhere. You go into this house and there literally is Kathy, like 30 beds placed throughout this whole house in every room. And there's sex swings and there's couples and singles and people are just like, it was like, I was, we, you know, we had been in the, the, the, the lifestyle for a long time, but that blew in mind.

Yeah. Just all these people, all these beds. I'm like, who the fuck are your neighbors? Like, do they ever under wonder, you know, all these. Right. How do you explain that? Sorry, Bobby, blocked your driveway because, you know, there was like 35 couples fucking next door. How do you explain that?

I know, especially on a cul-de-sac. Everyone knows everyone. I grew up on a cul-de-sac. Yeah, I can tell you, well, you know, which one of my people in my area are drug dealers or, you know, these great-fittles. So your first swinger party. So, yeah, that first swinger party, we're like, this is cool. Again, me being the cock-hold was not very good at performing, but I was great at watching. So she kind of went around and met other couples and I watched her bang, you know, other couples and single women and single men.

And she, I think she started, I think she was worried that I was having a problem with it. And I'm like, I'm not. You know, I love doing this. It did kind of, it would kind of cause some situation with me and her because she felt like, you know, are you really into this? No, I am. I'm just not the performing type. I'd rather watch. It took her, I don't ever think she ever got over that part.

It's not about not be getting over it. Let me just tell you, like, I have a life of, like, before my podcast and after my podcast, before my podcast, if your girlfriend was coming to me, we would never once in a million years know that there's something called a cuck that enjoys it. Like, you know what I mean? Like, there's all these things that I know now, no normal person knows, right, unless they're, like, in the lifestyle and in this world. And it is a small world, though there's a lot.

lot of people in it, you know. So it's not that she couldn't get over. She just, it didn't make sense to her because without the knowledge of a cock and the lifestyle and all these and compersion and all this shit, you're like, why the fuck can't you get it up? Like there's, you know, it doesn't make sense. And I would have never understood it either. And the only reason why I understand it now is because I've talked to a million cocks.

That's it. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. Nobody else knows this. Like you said, less you're in this. Let's you're. And again, I started with the real lifestyle as, as, you know, her getting unicorns.

And then I started reading up on it because I'm an avid reader too. So I love to read up on things. I read books on DNS relationship. I read books on swinging. I read everything I can get my step because I really wanted to understand, you know, our dynamics, my own nature or my own self. Yeah. So we started getting into the parties. We spend a few times.

We went over to this place in San Francisco. Can I name clubs that are in San Francisco? Absolutely. Yeah. As long as you want to, that's totally cool of me. we went to the power exchange which i'm sure if anybody's from around here they've heard of it three tiers the bottom tiers like the the bds um room the the middle ones like for everybody then there's like a couple's room and then there's like an all men's room amazing crazy place um you know and people

would just pay a certain amount of money and they can roll through there not do anything watch a bunch of people fucking watch people getting you know uh put up on uh st andrews and getting and getting you know uh BDSM the right way, you know, not the abuse of types. But, and they could see anything from cross dressers to, uh, gimps walking around with chains and a mask on. And that place blew my fucking mind. It was like, you know, I've, I've made it all the way up to this and lifestyle. Went to that place and I was just like, oh my God, this, these are my people.

Yeah. Yeah. It was amazing. It was just all, because you can literally go through. three different rooms and see so many different parts of the lifestyle that even if you knew parts of the lifestyle, you never, I never saw that before. Right. You know, I never, and the BDSM part, other than when I was younger when we were at the

Pride Parade, the BDS with the leather and the tie downs and the D and that, like, that might, my, I blew my, I'm like, if you ever see the emoji where your head exposed, that's exactly what happened. As soon as I went down there, saw a dude on a leash, getting, you know, walk around like a little, like a leather dog. I'm like, oh, my God, this is amazing. So the wife was like just about swinging and, you know, having sex with all kinds of guys and girls and stuff. And I was just drawn to the BDSM part.

Yeah. This is kind of where we kind of split a little bit. And I was more into that and watching that and just, you know, I'm like, oh, this is what I want to be. This is, I'm a sub. You know, I just kind of just like identify with every person in there that was the sub. and let's see to make I guess a very long story kind of short you know it we had our ups and down swinging kind of stopped everything kind of stopped sex all that it's just all kinds of you know normal problems you would have being married nothing really dealt with swinging and all

that that was just part of the fun so we end up we end up divorcing eventually and you know so the story goes right but let me ask you this do you stay in the lifestyle when you get divorced by when you're after you're divorced i didn't no i did not because to me i didn't i i actually again i've always worked music music tends to be more actually it's funny because you you heard the lifestyle part of me but music was more active in my life than than even the lifestyle the lifestyle the lifestyle was kind of secondary so um so i didn't stay in the and i did not stay in the lifestyle i would say there was probably let me think about that got divorced first met my second wife.

It was a good four years. There was a good four years. I was out of the lifestyle. However, I will say I was still on a few apps looking for a doll. Right. Okay. Because after that whole BDSM room that you were in, you realized that's what you want to get into next. Exactly.

Exactly, Kathy. It blew my mind. I got, you know, I dealt with everything from my first marriage. And I moved, but I continuously, I went to like FetLife, started looking for. for Dom. It took me, you know, I don't want to jump ahead of me, but it took me 10 years to find the Dom that we're going to talk about at the end of this podcast. Anyway, my second marriage starts. I meet a woman. She's wild. She's, um, she's worked in recovery. She's got a few years clean with her. I never once thought about, I, I, no, it's not true. I did think about

Andrew, you know, talking to her about the lifestyle because I think, I mean, there's, I guess it just depends on the person. For me, it was like, I still got the lifestyle on Brett and Lee. I still, the funny thing was when she, when I met her on an app, let's just say it's a dating app, it was not a lifestyle dating app. However, my dumbass decided that I was going to look for a dom on a regular dating app. What did you put on at the role? Like, what was it, match.com? yeah if you actually it was plenty of fish

oh yeah so my dumb ass instead of going a fat life I went to match I'm sorry plenty of fish yeah

but that I was looking for a very dominant type woman to you know in a female led relationship and I'm I've discovered you know

lately I'm quite submissive and even you can we can even you know and I just went very descriptive and I got little

to know, you know, hits on that because people are like, who the fuck is this weirdo? Yeah. You know, they're like, however, the lady that I end up marrying hit me up on it. She mentioned nothing about what I was looking for. She did hit me up and goes, you know, I'm interested in you. You have great cute pictures. You seem like a really nice, you know, smart guy. So we saw, we met, we started talking and everything.

She wanted to, she said, the funny thing is, is you were never my type. But I was just looking to get. a fuck from you basically because I've been using snap to get fucks all over the place and you're just another fuck however it took me like a month to get in your fucking pants because I'm not that I'm very dimmy-stexual I think it is you are or she is no I am it takes me I don't have feelings for you I'm not just one of the guys that can bang you and go I got have feelings for you unfortunately because my freaking mom you know installed those ethics in me or whatever she installed in me as the early age was you know I just don't bang chicks I have to

like become friends. I got to develop feelings. I, you know, I'm probably more chicked than most chicks are. More than your wife, it sounds like. You're more than your second wife. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, my second wife was all over the place. She's like, oh, I bang more guys than you and your ex-wife combined bangs back in the day. Like, whatever, you know. Okay, you win. Fine. So that one, that marriage went good for good four years, nothing, just that regular vanilla type relationship. Um, and then, she fell off the wagon, uh, had back pain. It was all from car accident. She had seven back surgeries. Um, she's, she's had her, you know, she, she went to, uh, I don't know if I can mention where she goes. Let's just say she, okay, so she's been through N.A. for years. Uh, 12-huh.

Uh, 12 step program. It really works for her. She's been, you know, she's been clean for three and a half years. However, three suicides later, five different, uh, stints at a middle health facility. Me kind of left holding the relationship together while I had my three kids with us and I just

couldn't do it anymore, Kathy. I couldn't. You know, I tried. So wait, you have three wives we're going to talk about? No, no, no, no. No, this is the same one. Oh, you stay with her. Okay. So when you say I couldn't do it anymore, what does that mean? You didn't leave her. Okay. So so this, so

yeah, maybe I'm getting ahead of myself. So You cheat on her. That's exactly what I did. So what I'm saying is when I say I couldn't do it anymore, I mentally stepped out of our relationship. However, I stayed married to her. I have a very good job. And I'm not trying to brag. And I'm very good medical.

And that medical covered a lot of those back surgeries, all of them, without any money coming out of our pocket. While dealing with her drug addiction, while dealing with her normal, um, bipolar slash personality disorder slash everything. I think the joke was when she first met met me. She goes, you know, I do love you. But, you know, if anything, I married you for your medical joke. Whatever, you know. So there was many reasons why I didn't leave her.

And I'm still technically married to her to this day. Whatever, you know. So there was many reasons why I, didn't leave her and I'm still technically married to her to this day. Okay. I knew she need my medical. Well, you are a little sub and it is very subby of you to stay. And also, you said you're very Demi and you were obviously in love with this woman.

And, you know, I could see how hard it would be to walk away from somebody as fragile and damaged as that when she's in the middle of a really bad fucking time. You know what I mean? Especially if you love this person. I did. She's like, you know, committing suicide. she's on drugs, she's having operations. Like who says, fuck you, see you later and divorce is someone in the middle of that.

Only an asshole would do that. I think it would be hard to leave a marriage in time like that and just leave someone in the dust, you know? Seriously. Everybody kept asking me, why are you still here? Her kids asked me, why are the fuck you still here? And I'm like, because I love your mother. And they're like, you're an idiot. Get the fuck out why you can.

She's in the hospital. It's like number four time in the hospital. Get the fuck out why you can, dumbass. I'm like, no. Stupid kids. One day they're going to be in the hospital. They're going to hope they have somebody there for them. They don't understand.

I don't know. Maybe I'm seeing it wrong, but I don't see how you could leave somebody when they're at the worst place in their life. Amen. That's why I couldn't leave. And I am super, you know, empathetic to people. Of course. Me too. I can't do it.

I just couldn't do it. I'd rather sit and suffer. And that's exactly what I did for years. then like and the worst thing I had nightmares yeah I had nightmares of a phone call going hey just to let you know your wife's dead and I need you to call the kids yeah and let them know that their mother could not go on anymore she you know she committed suicide or she or she overdosed which I don't think she could ever do because she took so many meds like that didn't kill her there's no way she heard her tolerance was wait that was a joke for a little better her tolerance so fucking I not enough meds on this planet could kill you woman yeah But I, and so what happened then, like I said, I kind of stepped away, was still there as her husband, but that's when I started like getting hits on my, my, my, uh, on my, the thing that I had on felt like for years. So I had this up there for years. I would sometimes check it. So again, don't, let's not go. Let's not, we can't exhume me from being not the complete. I am a cheater. That's what I was a cheater. I started, you know, it was really after the four years that. we started having problems. But, you know, I do blame myself for the fact that I still kept that ad going for years. And I checked it very minimal.

But towards the end there. But you were chucked it. I did. Exactly. But I was checking it. Exactly. You're correct. Were you always that type of person?

Like, you know, there's just some people that always just want to know that, you know, they could have one up. Maybe there's something better. They're looking over the fence to see if the grass is greener. Is that like your vibe? Or was it because things like turned to? such shit that you started to become that person? Or were you always that person? That's a good question. And you're right. There is those people. I, for the first four years,

no, I was good. But as soon as it started getting bad, I did start looking. I hate to admit it. I think I'm one of those people that cannot be by themselves. It's like as soon as I feel like I'm losing somebody like, you know, like the partner there, then I started looking around me. You don't like to be alone. There's plenty of people like that. I do like to be alone. No, no. That's the problem. I guess you're right. That would be like me saying I love being in a relationship, but I haven't been one in so long. I mean, come on. Just know thyself. You love to be in.

But, well, you did, listen, you didn't go from, you, you had a long time alone in between marriages. I mean, some people do jump from one relationship to another and they completely can't be alone. And you know what? I've come to understand, like, who the fuck cares? If that's the way they are, that's the way they are. I don't think anyone's right or wrong for any of that shit. You know, I don't believe that you have to be a little. alone to be happy or you have to be with someone to be happy. You have to be whatever you fucking want to be happy. Exactly.

You like to be with people and you enjoy that. That's just who the fuck you are and that's fine. Yeah. I think I'm a relationship type of guy. Yeah. You know, so yeah, I started looking about the time that, that again, when she was starting at the worst time that I was looking at the worst time when she needed me the most. And I don't think I was there for her.

And that was some of her major, that was her major bitch was like, you weren't there. You know, you're off working. You're out playing your band. You could barely get time to like sit by my side and you just weren't there. And I'm like, I guess I wasn't. And, you know, it's hard because I'm not an addicts. I'm not an alcoholic. I'm not, you know, I don't know how, I don't know how to fucking help you.

Right. Other than get you help, I can't help you mentally when I'm, you know, I'm my own little, you know, I overthink things. I think too much. Right. You're the last person that could like think clearly about her situation and offer her a solution. Correct. Yeah.

And I'm not going to give you shitty information knowing that I don't feel like I'm, you know, smart enough or good enough to tell you. You know, I don't want to tell you something wrong when, girl, you already tried to kill yourself three times. Girl, you've fallen off the wagon. Me talking to you, it's probably just going to make it worse. Right. Get a therapist. I kept telling them. Yeah, she needed a professional help.

Yeah, my medical pays for it. Get it. It's not going to cost a shit. Nothing. Yeah. So, you know, she eventually did. But again, Kathy, it was to that point where for me, it was all lost at that point. I was out of it.

I was done. My feelings had been cut. They were done. And there was no sex, right? I do know that it became like a sexless marriage, correct? Yes. It became sexless towards about, about the time she got dirty and fell. So as soon as she started getting crazy, even.

even though she was kind of crazy when I met her, which, you know, I guess I'm attracted to crazy. She got real crazy. And that's when it stopped. We were just like close friends. And the joke was towards the end here right before we separated. I told her, I love being your friend. I just can't be your husband. And, you know, and honestly, I don't think I'm that great of a husband.

So if we can continue, if you want to continue to be married and be friends, I'm down for that. And she's like, nah, I can't do that with you. And I totally understood it. So I left. you did leave i thought you said you never left her i'm so confused so i we are separated i guess we got separated about a month ago not even that it's probably been about gosh it's like maybe last week okay but you don't go to being separated like we we got to talk about the whole thing of you cheating on her okay so we're not divorced so so so so it so it so let's go back i've been with i found the

perfect dom for me about a month ago oh recently Yeah, so recently. So we're only going to talk a little bit about this and then, or at least that, Dom, and then, I don't know, maybe you want to do a second part if you want to know because we're off on our own adventure already. Anyway, so about a month ago, so where do you want me to start with this? You start there. You met a Dom, so you're not really cheating because you are separated. You were looking while you were with her, but you never, it doesn't sound like you ever really cheated on your wife. I never was with her really when I was, that's, you're correct.

So, so, yeah, I don't know. I would consider it cheating. It just depends on the person's opinion, I guess. I think we're indicted to our opinion on that. I think it's still mentally, I guess I was cheating because I was already out of the relationship. We're still married. We weren't having sex. We hadn't had sex in three and a half years.

Yeah. And she asked, oh, that was the other thing. So a couple of weeks before I met my Dom that I have now, my ex, soon-to-be ex, asked, can we open the marriage? And I'm like, whoa, wait, what? She goes, can we open the marriage? And I'm like, fuck yeah, we can open the marriage because I already have. I didn't tell her this.

I'm like, well, I've already opened the marriage. So, yes, open the marriage. Go have fun. So that kind of got me off of the, you know, you really technically are cheating on her because you're still technically married. You're still in the same house at the point. And then when I moved out, it's kind of when me and my dom started doing more stuff together, talking a lot more.

So. Okay. So set up your story about your dom. You guys have some really weird situations because it's kind of like a very interesting setup. Yeah, I know you can have a lot of questions. How did you meet her? Let's start off with like how you met her.

Yes. So I'm on Fat Life for years. Again, while I'm still married, I didn't really check it. I went through. I'm like, oh my God. I got a million messages on Fat Life. I'm looking for this, this, you know, this amazing Dom that's not, I mean,

so the Dom I'm seeking is kind of a Mommy Dom. When I mean Mommy Dom, that means she's nurturing. She's guiding. She's not really putting you down whereas, and if you're a bad boy, you will get your hand slapped or you'll get spanked or you'll get smacked. I'm looking for someone who has a little more guidance, not just super sadistic. I'm not a masochist. I don't like high amounts of pain. I do like to be told bad, you know, if I've done something bad.

So again, let's go back to, I do have mommy issues. I was raised by a super strong mom that, you know, really pressed. I meet this dom. So, okay, let me back up again. I'm starting to mess up here. I'm going through the site. I do not see any of the type of doms that I'm looking for other than there's a million fin doms that want your money that want to use you as a cash cow.

I'm in fact, that was the first things I put on top of where there was no cash cow, no fin domes. I'm not your, I'm not your ATM. I've got kids. I got a family. I'm a hard worker. I'm not giving fucking money away to give to somebody. You know,

some woman that thinks she's just going to cash in on me. So what I started doing was I switched up my profile and I started looking at other subs. And I'm thinking, oh my God, I think I read somewhere a while ago that the perfect DOM would be a sub that can switch. So I turned it away from looking for DOMs. So then I started looking and I found this one girl. I'm 54, she's 29, she's a sub. She lives a couple hours away from me.

And I hit her up, most gorgeous pictures I've ever seen. And I'm like, this is probably a catfish. You know what that is, right? Of course. Okay, so this is either catfish or she's already taken. So I hit her up, I go, hey, I'm sure, this is kind of a weird message. I'm a sub. I've been a sub for years.

I've been looking for a dom for years. However, I don't know what it is about your pictures, but I think you would make an amazing switch. Would you ever consider doming somebody? And we struck it from there. And she's like, oh, my God, you would consider me? And she goes, can you help me? I go, yes.

We can talk about this. I can tell you everything I'm into. My hard, you know, my hard, soft nose, all that, everything. And she had had some experience with some doms before that they didn't do too well. It's hit or miss in this lifestyle because, you know, it's not like there's a set book and a rules. It's not like there's a dumb, sub,

dynamic, BDSM, Bible. You know, there is some, some, some, some,

some things in there that, that, that help you with that, but you've got so many guys and girls on there, just like, I'm a Dom, I'm a sub, I'm out,

and they know nothing about it. Or they watch that freaking stupid movie, you know, the one I'm talking about that everybody love. Yeah. That's, you know, the secretary is a better movie than that one is.

Anyway, back to, get off that rant. So, we just started talking. And I don't know what it was. There was something about, I sent her my whole profile on what I was looking. And she goes, I like everything you got on there.

However, my hard note to be your dumb is I am not going to humiliate you. I am not going to degrade you. I shouldn't have to get to that point. If you're not doing what I'm asking or what I'm saying, don't worry. I'll find a way to, I'll find a way to take care of you. she goes i don't particularly want to peg you she's going to still want to keep you in the man type i don't want to fuck guys behind your back i know you're in the cut the cuckoldry part but she you know even though i felt like oh yeah i can do all of this did i really because again i never

did it it sounds great in my mind it might even look good on paper but i don't even know if i can do all that and turn around and and be okay with it so i'm like okay i'll shell those kinks for now But we'll talk about the other ones, the mind fuckery, where I will say something and she goes, excuse me? And I'm like, oh, shit, did I say something wrong? And she fucks with me mentally. So because, again, I don't know. How do I say this? Because I've got so much respect for her and so much of the aspect of her being my god, my, my, pretty much my,

everything. I, I, she, she, she, sometimes she makes me tread lightly on what I say and how I talk to her. But that's part of the fetish. Yeah, of course. There's a lot of mental stuff with BDS. It's all mental. Right. But there is some weird sexual stuff that you do with her because you told me, okay, before we start talking about you, you don't fuck her, but you, she breastfeeds you or some shit like that. Could you just get into that weird shit? So we haven't fucked yet. I've like a 10, But because the demasexual or because she won't let you fuck her. No, I'm in totally love with this woman. It's not the demisexual.

She doesn't really put it out there much. She like, I'm sure if I asked you say yeah, but I haven't tried and I kind of like the denial. Is that weird? No, that's a part of being a cuck. So, you know, say it like that. Own it. I don't fuck her because I'm not allowed to. That's like a part of our dynamic.

That's what I'm thinking. Correct. Even if it was allowed to, I want to. I want to wait. Is that weird? That's the weird part. I want to wait, actually.

I want to wait until I know, she knows, we feel the timing is right. Okay. I could probably fuck her. I'm sure because she's not super, she's not super, what's the word?

She's not superly, what is the word? I'm looking for that. She, yeah, she can be strict, but she's strict in certain ways. She's not so strict

strict that she would tell me probably know if I ask. Okay. But I haven't asked. What has she said yes to? Let's get into some of this. stuff you actually do. Okay, so she has, I told her the bond between me and you is going to grow immensely if you

would allow me to basically suckle you. And she's like, and I'm like adult adult, adult, um, yeah, adult nursing. Yeah. So she would cut me in her, cut me into her arms and I would sit there and I would nurse on both size of her breast. Oh my God. That's the weirdest thing I've ever heard. I don't think, no, I've heard of like a lactation fetish where and a woman like took hormones so she could like, she's not lactating. I know. That's what I'm saying. This is like you just sucking on her breast and she's like pretending to be your mommy. Quote-unquote. No, no, no. She's so that was it.

So that's where we split there. She doesn't, she does, she does answer to mommy. I call her mommy. She calls me baby boy. She doesn't lactate. However, she gets off on me sucking on her breast. Right. So either I'm fingering her or she's rubbing and she's getting off. And it's funny. So the second Dom I ever had got off on the same thing. She's the one to introduce me to you know. She goes, I want you to suck my breast. I'm going to caress your head.

And then you're going to either finger me, use a toy on me or I'm going to finger my own self. And she would like literally squirt and get off on it. Some women do, I guess. So it's not, she's not putting me in diapers. I'm not shitting in the diaper. I'm not like, you know, walk around with a big fucking bonnet or anything like that. No.

We are not that good. Could we ever get to that point? I don't think so. She asked me if that turned me on. I'm like, no. But I do like the suckle part because for me, it feels like it gets me closer to her emotionally. Right. And it makes her emotionally close to me.

The other thing I didn't really say is we are two hours apart from each other. I live in a town that's two hours away from her. So I have to drive to her to spend whatever time I can get to go, spend on top of working on 60-hour job, you know, playing in my band, dealing with everything else. So I probably see her maybe two, three times a month at the most until we can fix that. But let's go back to other things. The other things she makes, she likes me to do is she puts an ice cube inside of her. I go down on her.

And it's almost like she's squirting. And as that ice cube is melting, that is going straight into me. So I absolutely love that. It is amazing. I've never done that before. I've never seen a woman put an ice cube straight up her vagina. I've never seen that. Right.

But is it like, are you doing something? Because if she's your dom, right, like, what is she doing, making you like lick it off of her, take it out of her? Like, where's the doming in this situation? So the doming in that situation is when I get there, I have to get on my knees. I have a knee pad down there. I put a towel or nothing, depending on, you know, whatever. So she talks to me and, you know, she says there's sweet nothings to me, you know,

a baby boy is good to see you finally. She puts me to work. She makes me clean her house. She makes me do all kinds of things around the house. She, you know, we just, I call her mistress, Ms. Sarah, ma'am, I'm her baby boy, sub, pet. It's, it's, that's our whole relationship every time I'm there. Are you ever on a caller yet? I do. I'm wearing a collar right now, actually. I don't know if you can hear that. I have a play collar. And I have a regular collar that I, a chain with a lock on it that I wear around every day. So I can only take this off when I shower. I do have certain rules, which I have written down. I know some of them, I don't know all of them. I've got to learn them better. I do have about 12 or 15 rules whenever I'm with her. Like rule, I think, if I get these wrong and she hears this, and she's going to hear this, I'm going to be in trouble. I think rule 11 is my car must always be clean because if I'm going to drive her around in it,

she wants to be driven in a clean car. If we're at a stop sign, I have to put my hand between her legs, either give her a kiss or kiss her shoulder. How long did it take her to come up with these rules? Like, where are these rules? Like, who comes up with these things? I don't know. I love them. I love them.

I want the rules. The rules are, you know, she owns my whole. heart, body, mind. And so I love the rules. That's what this is about. Yeah, totally. Let's see. So, back to the doming part.

So, yeah, so I don't, we do this all, oh, 24, whenever I'm with her. If we're out and about, I have certain names I can call her. Certain names I can't call her. I am not to get on the floor in front of, you know, a public with this. We're not ready for that or, you know, that's going to be weird. And not only people, you know, call it. Again, I'm 54, she's 29. So if anything, people are going, what's that chick's dad doing on the floor, you know, on his knees, kissing her hand?

What's he doing? So, again, this is about a month in. So now what we're doing is we get all this play. We've got us this time. I have had fantasies and dreams of seeing her be domed because, remember, she was a sub. Yeah. And she's mentioned it a few times. So we are technically on Fed Life and we're looking for a dom for her.

Uh-huh. So, and that's when the cuckold part of me comes in. I get to be there. I get the watch is the only way the stipulations are going. I'm to be collared. I am to be chained. I am to be a good boy while she basically gets domed or fucked by another dumb slash man. So I didn't you say straight up in the beginning like I'm not into that or was that your other dom.

Have you had two doms? I've had three doms. So the first dom was the, yeah, we didn't go over that. So my first dom I met on Craigslist, so this is how long ago this was. She was, things went good for six months. She was, come to find out she was an alcoholic and she was drinking behind everybody's back. And she ended up having to go to a program. And then we kind of broke up from that.

She was the one to introduce me to the suckling part. My second Dom was a girl that I met off of that, I don't remember. Let me think about this. It doesn't matter where you matter. Yeah. Anyway, yeah, so, no, this would be my first, this one is my third DOM and the best one easily, because we have, again, it's more mental than anything. It's way more mental than it is physical. That was the biggest surprise for me when I first did my first couple BDSM episodes, right?

Here I was starting out podcasting like 10, 11 years ago, and I had to make these salacious episodes. and when I first had my first dom on, I was like, oh, this is going to be great. 50 shades of gray, dirty stories, right? That's the dumb book you're talking about, right? Yeah. And so I was like, and then he gets on the phone, and it's just all this like essay writing and talking and researching and mental mind-fucking. And I'm like, wow, not a lot of sex in this conversation, but it was super interesting.

And that's when I realized, like, BDSM is about so much more than. and what people really think it is from the outside. You know, it's not just a sex thing. Listen, there is a lot of kinky sex going on. It doesn't mean these people are, you know, but there's a whole other layer. And that's what people are in it for because it's not just sex. It's really fucking deep, you know.

It's all that mental mind fuck. It's very time consuming. It's really for a certain type of person who's into that, you know? That's right. That's right. They have mind-fuckery. If there was no mind-fuckery in any of this, I wouldn't even be in it, honestly. Right.

Because the mind-fuckery, the control that I allow to give her to have over me, that's the fucking fetish right there. Right. That she can, you know, I trust her. And the other thing is I was able to trust her. You know, anybody can say, I'm a dumb or I'm a sub or, you know, or any of this. But if you've got to have trust in any kind of relationship, there has to be trust there. I have to trust and know that she's got me blindfolded. and, you know, she wants to do whatever she wants to do to me.

I have to be able to trust her. Oh, no, that's the other thing in BDSM. There's a lot of negotiation and talking about because you're really putting everything on the line because there's pain involved, there's boundaries being pushed. There's a lot of stuff that's going down. So these relationships that are formed are very negotiated up front for a long time. I mean, that's the way it. Anyone that's really into it knows that.

It's not, you know, it's very intentional. For me, it's stronger than a regular vanilla relationship. So because I've grown up and like I said, I've been through all of this in my whole life and relationships. I find the perfect dom. We have a, you know, we don't technically have a verbal contract. We're going to eventually get a regular contract. But it's stronger than any relationship I've been in and I've been married for what, 13 years, eight years, dated for six. Again, this is like what, almost a little bit more than a month.

and this is like the strongest relationship I've ever been where I can completely feel like I trust this person and I mean we've learned we're learning things about our past and all that stuff but you know it's again it's that the if it was not the mind fucking in there I probably

wouldn't be there in this sex kind of is more mental than most people want to realize yeah there's some physical in there but it's mostly mental but what do you see yeah of course for sure it's more mental for sure that's what I remember thinking and was surprised about But let me ask you this because you are kind of like a relationship guy.

You are a subat heart. You did find a girl that you're really into that you said, you know, this girl. You know, you're very teakin with her. Like, would you see, like, do you want it to stay this kind of relationship that it is now? She's your dumb and you're her, whatever. Or do you want it to eventually become like, like, does it ever become like a serious relationship as well? Or is it separate or is it the same? I don't know.

Like, do you see yourself? It's the same. It is. Okay. It's a real relationship you're in. Yes. Me and her had this conversation. We are technically dating.

So it's like, say you don't know. Say Kathy, you don't know me, the sexual part of me. I'd be telling you, Kathy, I date this girl and Sarah. Yeah. She's 25 years younger than me. Yeah. You know, she lives a little bit of distance. We have a distance right now.

Eventually, you know, when I retire or whatever, then we're going to, you know, we'll meet paths and we'll get together. And yes, 100 percent. We both wanted to stay. as I'm her sub, she's my Dom, the way it is now. Right. And no other people involved except when she starts banging other guys for you in front of you. Yes.

Yep. Because again, you got to remember that the cuckoldness is still in there. And it's always been there. And that and the submissiveness part of me has always kind of grown together. So I, and again, I do have conversion. It was tested. It was tested again. Oh, I didn't get to tell you.

So when we started looking for a dom the first time, so we're talking like a couple weeks ago. maybe about a week ago. All of a sudden we get all these guys that are very interested to her. And I told her, you know what? I don't know if I can do this right now. And she's like, and she immediately picked up on it. She goes, you know, I'm not doing this. You are.

She goes, you were doing this because you're the one that said you had the dreams. I go, yeah, no, you're right. You're right. And she goes, then we need to just shut down the app for a minute. Let's just spend some time together. She goes, you know, we can talk about it later. And then, of course, I brought it back up again because I kept having the fantasies. I kept having the dreams.

And I realized that it was, I wasn't going to, what was it? What was the, the, the, I realized that I felt like, of course, with any, with any jealousy, you know, I felt like, oh, you know, she's going to find a guy that's better than me. And I'm going to be replaced. And I'm like, you know what? I'm not going to be replaced because I'm not an easy person to replace. I realize. But let me ask you this. Why do you think you were like never had any kind of.

jealousy early on with your first wife yet. You're feeling like that way with this girl. Do you think it's because you're going into this like too early and you guys don't have a strong enough foundation maybe between the two of you? Like maybe you shouldn't start off opening up your relationship that early. Because it seems like when you opened it up with your wife, it wasn't right out of the gate, but you were fine with it because you never had any jealousy. Maybe it's because you guys had established more of a relationship before you did it. Maybe you don't have that foundation yet with this girl. So she's probably right to fucking put a stop to it. Yes. I think you're right. I think you're right. So yeah, because again, we're right.

Everything. I can't even. I can't even. Yeah. Yeah. I think we just didn't have. We don't have enough time together. We don't have enough time invested in each other. I don't. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's no reason to go there yet because, especially if you have reservations about it, you know. Yeah. And that's exactly what happened was I had reservations and she put a stop to it immediately. She's, you know, she might be younger than me, but she's super mature for her age. And she's been following the lifestyle just as long as I have, if maybe longer. But yeah, you're so, yeah, that's that again, and I kept thinking, wow, my conversion has never been tested like this other than the first time that I told you about where I wasn't invited in the room. Yeah, but that's a different story. It is. It is. It is different

than this. And this one just like, I got emotional. I was like, I pulled over and I'm like, why am I about the fucking cry thinking about this? Because I'd answer one of the, their post of this guys like, yeah. Because it's too soon. Because it's too soon. You're not ready. You guys aren't there yet. You don't even know, like you don't have that security within your relationship with her yet. And you should never play until you do. Some people could go into it open right from the get go. But I think what's most important is like, you know, just following however you feel. For you, you totally know for a fact that eventually, if you wanted to open up your relationship after time, you are totally the type of person that has, like, you know, has no jealousy,

could totally see your partner with someone else. You've been there, done that. It's not like you didn't love your first wife. You did. It's just that you need that security within your relationship first. And a lot of people need that. And like, I think that that's more normal. So I think that, you know, you need to definitely put that on hold and just establish your

relationship. Let me ask you a last question. Like, does she see other, does she dom anyone else or have anything else or are you guys like monogamous to each other right now? No, we are monogamous. She wants to be not monogamous to each other. Again, I opened her up into being a switch or actually being

dom. So no, no, no. We are totally monogamous towards each other. We're not looking anywhere. But I think you're right. I think it's too soon. Yeah, it's too soon. Just keep, you know, you haven't even had sex with her yourself. Right. You think you're going be okay watching her give that to somebody else i don't even understand yeah not you not a demisexual

uh-uh it's not gonna know right right know thyself no thyself kevin yes yes yes i know you from comments you used to comment on youtube a lot i say youtube instead of patron used to comment on youtube a lot so i know you from there so and you always used to make comments about shit about the lifestyle like why don't you ever come on and i'm so glad you finally did There's some people that comment all the time, whether before it used to be on YouTube, you know, before I got deleted. And then, you know, there's a lot of people on Patreon and like my people who comment a lot, wherever it is, even Twitter, same thing.

Like, you know, there's just people that you know because they do all the time and they engage so much. And of course, I love those people because that's what I want on my platform, you know. And you're somebody that does and always has. And I know why? Because you're like me. Like you're very curious. You like to know, you know.

Yes. you're in on those deep conversations we have everywhere. I love that and I appreciate it. And I'm so glad that you finally called in and shared your story and I actually got to talk to you. Because like I said before we started tap him, like I feel like I know you because we've been, you used to comment all the time and all that stuff. So it's awesome to talk to you. Thank you for having me on, Kathy. No, thank you so much for calling in and sharing your story.

Good luck with your sub. Don't open it up anytime soon. Okay. Get that under the back. You know, you'll know when it's time, when it's ready. She's a dumb, honestly. I mean, don't, yeah, with your dumb, don't open it up yet. Hold your horses.

Okay. Okay. Okay. And keep you posted. I will keep you posted. All right. All right. All right.

All right. Thank you. Kevin, we called you, Kevin, right. Thank you so much for calling in. Thank you. Thank you. Bye bye. That was great.

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