Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 984 - Kat is a Swinger who has Husband and a Boyfriend and she Couldn't be Happier

Episode Date: December 9, 2024

Kat is a swinger who has a husband and a boyfriend (ep #983) and she couldn’t be happier and she called in to talk all about it. One in to hear all the details including how, when and why her and her husband decided to go to their first swingers club, who they bumped into the first time they went and exactly what went down, their first hardcore couple swap and exactly what went down, how and why they never really had any rules, how they started playing with others in separate rooms right from get go and why she prefers to play solo, when and why she decided she wanted to find her own solo partner and how her husband felt about it, her husbands girlfriend he met and how their relationship is setup, how she felt about his GF being so different then her, how and why there was never any jealousy between them, what she gets from her partners that she doesn’t get from her husband, her first long term partner and why things ended after three years, how she met her current boyfriend Paul (ep #983) and exactly what went down between them the first time they hooked up, the hardcore, freaky stuff he’s got her into that she was never into before, how she’s fallen hard for Paul and how she manages to keep both her relationships separate, how Paul loves seeing her with other guys and why it’s hard for them to find other guys, how she’s has been making him submit to her lately and what she enjoys doing to him plus a whole lot more. **To see anonymous pics of KAT plus my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://beducate.me/anonymous40 Get BEDucated! For 40% off PLUS a FREE 24-hour trial, click the link and use code: anonymous https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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and meet like-minded people in your area or if you're traveling and you want to hook up with someone on vacation. You're going to be able to find people there. And what's also great about it is not only can you meet people on there, you could also find out about all the swinger events and swinger parties and hotel takeovers and swinger clubs and gangbings, you name it. It's all on that site. And you get a free trial, like I said, just use my code 37712 or go to the description and click on the link and you'll be taken right there. Now listen, today I have on Kat. I just aired Katz Guy's episode on Friday, her guy Paul. Now if you didn't listen to Paul's episode because you're not into BDSM and Dom's and all that shit.

You should listen to it because it's very different than any other BDSM DOM scenario. Okay. Plus, he touched upon the fact that he got into the lifestyle recently with a new girl that he met named Kitty. Now, I had to change Kitty's name on this episode because I just aired a Kitty on Thursday and I'm airing her episode now. So I had to change Kitty's name to Cat. But that's who I'm talking to today.

Paul's girl kitty, aka Cat. So if you want to hear Paul's backstory, and you're probably going to want to after you hear Kat's story, it's episode 983. I decided to have them on separately because Kat has a very hardcore backstory. That is so interesting. She is dating Paul now. But the minute she gets on the phone with me,

she drops the bomb that she's like also fucking married. I'm like, what? And her and her husband are been married since the dawn of time. they've been with each other for a long time. They eventually got into the lifestyle. They started doing tons of hot, hard swaps, like right from the get-go. They never really had any conversations. It's something they fell into.

They were totally into it. And then they really started playing solo a lot early on in the game. And she talks about all of that. And they got to the point where they play solo so much that they both wound up having, like, other partners. She's had a couple different boyfriends. He's had one who he's had forever. She talks all about that relationship. How he met her how she feels about her how they that all came to be she had one long-term guy she talks about him and then she met Paul and then she talks a lot about him

She's really into like fucking guys She really loves the fact that she's got a husband and a boyfriend and she talks about how it works Why it works and all that kind of good stuff It's such an interesting story. I have super hot picks of her over on my Patreon You're gonna want to listen to her guys episode his episode was just aired before I think it's 983 You could go listen to that. I posted it on Friday, but you're going to love her story. So I'm going to get right to be right back on with Kat.

Hi, Kat. Welcome to the Stricklandonymous Podcast. Are you doing today? Hi, I am good. So listen, Kat. You're the girl friend or the girl of Paul, who I just aired. I aired him on Friday, and it's a Fetish Friday episode. Some people don't listen to my BDSM episode sometimes.

But if they're not into it, they don't listen to it. But I loved your guys episode. Well, they're missing out, aren't they? Yeah, because, and I'm going to tell you this, like, and he did Paul's episode that I just aired, because I think I'm going to air yours right after his, you know, his episode was so interesting because he was a dom, but he was a dom that wasn't like into humiliation or a lot of pain. It was more about him doming women and pleasuring them. Right.

And his sessions turned into very therapeutic, pleasurable sessions for women where he tortured them with great orgasms. It was just a very different, interesting angle of the whole BDSM thing. I like how you said that tortures them with orgasms. Yeah, yeah. I think he said pleasurable torture or something. I don't know, but that's like what he was down for. And it was a super interesting episode.

And so if people haven't listened to that one, they should go listen. You were going to be on that call. But when he told me that you had this whole history of being in the lifestyle before you ever met him, I figured I'd get your side of the story separate from his because you have a whole backstory before you met him. I mean, he had a lot of girls that he domed, okay, before you that all liked him. But he was never in a relationship. But once he met you, you were the one for him. And he hung his hat.

And now he's like a switch and you're like fucking doming him. So we'll get to the point where you meet, where you meet Paul and you turn him, you know, you turn him into the submissive, even though he was never that guy before. He's totally whipped to you. It sounded that way when we talked. But, you know, you were in the lifestyle. I'm more whipped to him. Oh, I love that.

Well, I'm sure it's equal then because he sounds like you were the one the minute he met you. And you were different because he met a lot of women. All his submissives fell for him. But he was never into them. but he wasn't to you. Then you guys met, I guess, like on an adult friend friend or someplace, right? So you were already involved in the lifestyle, Kitty. So let's go back to your past, you know, like, did you get involved in the lifestyle with an ex-husband of yours, or were you always involved as a single girl?

Like, when did you get freaky in your life? All right. Are you sitting down? Yeah. I got involved in the lifestyle with my husband. Right. Okay. I listened.

You think I haven't heard that before a million times? No. But he's still like. husband. Oh. I was like, why do I need to be sitting down for that? Oh, you're fucking married? Yes, ma'am. I am. Oh, my God. I don't think Paul told me that. I knew I'd give you a little twist there. Wait a second. Are you serious? Totally. Paul left that out. But wait, there might be problems down the line. Well, you left it out because it's my story. No, no, I like it.

I like that. I'm glad he left it out. Wait a second. So you're still married and you're married. So you're in a polyamorous relationship with your husband? Well, I don't know that I call it polyamorous because four of us do not switch it up. Meaning four, meaning your husband has. Yes.

Correct. He has a girlfriend. Yes. Oh, I love this story. Okay, let's go back. Okay. Before we meet Paul. You got to keep us on track.

Yeah, I will. I know how to keep you on track because I'm. I'm a very curious person. I want to know how you and your husband got involved, right? Like, how long have you been married to your husband? Currently, I have been married 43 years. Okay, awesome. So you've been with him since the dawn of time.

You guys are like high school sweethearts kind of thing? College, college. Okay, so you meet your husband in college. Are you vanilla right from the get-go and then eventually get into the lifestyle? Oh, my God. I'm a vanilla soccer mom. Really? For, yeah, three-quarters of my life.

Yes. Oh, okay. So you and your husband, just regular vanilla but good sex Were you always having good sex? Yes Okay so Only vanilla sex

But but but it was like it was good and but like did it go down after you had kids like regular people like did you have that regular kind of? Yes we had three kids yeah Yeah Right yeah so you got put on a back burner Yeah and you're the soccer mom driving around in the minivan Correct Okay so how the heck does you know that couple become a couple with like extra partners and shit? You know what I mean? How do you go from there to now?

Yeah, we finally decided that it was time for us to take a vacation without the kids, without it being involved in their sports and traveling for their sports and their activities. We decided to ditch the kids, which they were older by then, high school college age. And we went to the family capital of the world. We went to Hilton Head and just had sex nonstop. I got my belly button pierced. We went to a strip club. and I don't know.

It's like a midlife crisis for the both of you. Exactly. And then we just started Googling sex and found a club in the area and went to the club and made a profile on one of the websites and met friends. And I had sex with the second guy I've ever had sex with after we met some couples. and it just went from there. Okay, but let's slow it down a little bit. You're Googling sex clubs on that one vacation or after you got back?

On the way home, after we got back. Okay, so somehow like that weekend alone. Something triggered something, yes. Yeah, were you in your 40s at that time? Probably a little later than that. Yes, and by that time I'd probably been on hormones, so that kicked me in too. Okay, so you're extra horny, right? You're having that second wave that happens to,

women for sure. Yes. Yes. Well, we're free. The kids aren't in the house. And, you know, it's free for all. Yeah, but it's great that you're still attracted to your husband. Because a lot of times, unfortunately, what happens is like, you know, they're not connected anymore. But you guys got reconnected. The sex was like killer. And you're like, let's take this up a notch. And so you guys decide to go online and look for sex clubs and stuff. Did you have any like rules or regulations going in? No, we had no clue what we were doing. So what happened that first club experience? It was bizarre because number one, I didn't know how to dress.

So I wore a little skimpy something or other. Yeah. We were sitting there and I recognized a guy walking behind my husband. I was facing my husband and his back was to this man. And the guy went past and held a finger up to his mouth like, be quiet. And I looked at him and then I hit my husband and I said, oh my God. can you believe so-and-so is here. A guy you knew?

Yes. Oh, my God. He actually happened to be a hunting buddy of my husbands, and they had been out in the woods in a cabin together with other buddies, and yeah. This season, why not give the gift of pleasure? Stuff is temporary, but sexual happiness is forever. So why not treat yourself or a loved one to the gift of sexual happiness with a subscription to Beducated? Beducated is like the Netflix of sex education.

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He actually happened to be a hunting buddy of my husbands. And they had been out in the woods in a cabin together with other buddies. And yeah. Wow. We never knew. Yeah, yeah. Isn't that so fucking fascinating. First time.

I mean, I always love asking those questions a lot of times like down the line. Something like that might happen to someone. But that's like your first experience. Now, was he there with a wife or was he a single guy? He was there with his wife. Oh, my God. Oh my God. And they're like, it's cool.

We're okay. You know, we're here. You're here. It's not going anywhere. Oh my God. Now, did your husband have any idea about that guy? No, probably. No.

No. None. Okay. So now when you walk in, though, you're wearing a skippy outfit. I'm assuming that should be the right thing to be wearing, right? I mean, did you guys hook up with people at all that first time? No, but we played side by side with our own spouses with that other couple. Oh, with his hunting by?

everybody? Yes. Yeah. And that was the first time we'd have sex in public, which you call that public. I mean, it's up in a playroom. First time ever in our lives. Yeah, most people probably that have never done that. Most people probably have never done that. So that I think that is a big thing. And was that hot for you? Yes. It's a turn on to see others fucking. And then I, it ends up that I'm an exhibitionist to a certain extent. Yeah. So you like both of it. So both of it is hot for you, right? You're seeing them fuck, real people in real life, and someone else is watching you. Right. Yeah.

Okay, cool. So that was a hot, so it was a, it was a good experience, your first trip? Yes. Yes. Yeah. It was enough to wet the whistle and want to keep going. Yeah. Okay.

And then now what site, do you remember what site you guys went on to? Swinger. Well, it was. SLS. Swing lifestyle, SLS. And then we progressed to Swinger Zone Central. Okay, cool. So now you go online and what are you guys looking for?

like what do you realize is like your thing early on? Like is your husband into watching you fuck other people? Are you into couple swapping? Do you like girls and you like threesomes? Or do you like to fuck two guys at once or all of the above? Well, when we first got on, we had no clue. And a funny story is we got an email from a couple that said, hey, you know, you look like something we would like to meet.

Let's just go meet at a bar. You know, I replied, we have no idea what we're doing. They said, that's okay. We've been in it. We'll just, we'll answer all your questions. So we met them at a bar Come to find out they live Like a half a mile from us

We went back to their house after the bar And he was the first guy I ever fucked Besides my husband Wow, so you were a virgin when you fucked your husband Yes Wow, so this is the first guy And now because your guys are like so newbies Like you guys are total newbies right

You have had no zero discussion about this Like you know that everything's the table like was it okay for you to fuck this guy like did you you guys still haven't had conversations right well right and we it kind of started at their house like she had club clothes and i had none she said here try this on we're about the same size yeah and it i mean it turned the guys on it turned us on and then we went into a bedroom and we started messing around and we fucked the opposite partner and on the way home we looked at each other and we said are you okay yeah i'm okay are you okay Yeah, you want to do this again?

Well, hell yeah. Oh, my God. So both of you guys fucked the other part of it. It was a total heart swap, right? Couple swap, heart swap. Yes. Yep. You had no clue what soft swap was at that point.

Yeah, listen, you're lucky that it all went well. So like looking over seeing your guy, fuck another girl, was that hot for you? I was so involved in what was going on with me. I could have cared less. Oh, my God. That's so funny. Well, what about him? Like, did he love seeing you get pleasureed by the other guy?

Or was he like in the same mindset? like he was so great to be having like his first new pussy in so many years. I think he was in the same mindset and he has been the kind that he, he wants to, it has to be 50, 50. He wants what I was having. So he was never into really watching me. Yeah, he's not a hot, he's not into hot whiffing kind of thing. No, no, no. Yeah.

Okay, now, did you fool around with that woman? Are you into women at all or is that like, like, is that something that you've tried or did you try at that time? That's another story. I am not by. I could be by curious or by situational as me. And it's from the waist up. You know, I have a pussy. I don't want another pussy.

I want to cock. I want to be rammed by a cock. I want to be held down and fucked hard. A pussy is not going to do that for me. Oh, my God. If you say that 10 times, you're giving guys woodies while they're driving. I want to be rammed hard. I want a cock.

Oh, my God. I like rough sex. want a pussy. I don't want to rob your pussy, okay? Oh my God. That's so much. But no, will I make a kiss and suck on nipples? Yes. Okay. Yes. If a girl wants to go after my pussy, have at it. But it won't be, it won't be returned. Oh my God. That's so funny. So have you ever had a girl to go down on you, but you just won't go down on them? Yes. Okay, cool. All right, interesting. All right. So that time, that first experience, you like, you were into it, right? No problems. Like, looked at each other. You're like, this is like fucking great.

Let's keep going. Yep. Mm-hmm. Oh, my God. Now, did you see that couple again? Oh, yes. And it ended up, we had a close group of like four or five couples that we met through them. And we traveled to desire and we, you know, socialize house parties, the whole bit.

Oh, so you got, they brought you into the scene. Correct. Yeah. Isn't it crazy that there's neighborhoods out there like this where all this shit is going down and people have no idea? Mm-hmm. Well, there was a program that was based off of a neighborhood. really close to me. Oh, really?

What was the program? Can you tell me? Or do I have to edit it out? Just tell me? I can't remember what it was, but they were based out of Mason, Ohio. And it was about a couple that were involved with other couples, and it kind of blew up, I believe.

Oh, that's so funny. Did you know those people? No, not at all. Okay, but that was close by where you are. But yeah, exactly. I mean, this shit does go down. It's a fact, right? There you were living half a mile away from another couple.

that was into it. And then they introduced you the whole bunch of other couples and they were probably all close by, right? Yes. Oh my God. Cincinnati is a hotbed. That is so funny. Now, do you have a club in your area? We had two, one closed down and the other one's pretty close to closing down and is, I don't, yeah, I'm being truthful. It's not very conducive to pleasure and having fun and being clean and Right, like it's dingy and old or something? Uh-huh. Yes. Yeah, that's gross.

Yeah. Yeah, you guys should open a new one. Okay, so now you get that couple and now you get pulled into this whole world, right? Because they're, like, involved already. Yes. So you were lucky to meet them. And listen, I got to say, because a lot of times, like, couples that are professionals don't want to hook up with newbies, you know, but then there's certain couples that I talk to

that like hucking up with new newbies. They were lucky that they were. They're that kind of couple. Yeah, you're lucky. They're that kind of couple. They love new new newbies. Yeah, you're lucky because a lot of people stay the fuck away because you never know what you're going to get and there could be problems. Yeah, drama for sure. Yeah, I just had an episode with big drama with two newbie couples where there was like the girl punched her husband in the face.

So yeah, so you're lucky that they weren't like that. But it always helps, I think, though, to meet a couple that's further along because they can answer all the questions. Like they teach you a lot of stuff about the lifestyle. Yes, yes. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that's cool. Make your own rules. You don't have to do anything.

No means no and you do what you want. Yeah. Now, did you have like early on in your guys experience because it sounds like you guys didn't talk or make any rules or anything? Like did you have to create some as time went on and you had more experiences or did things get more open between you guys the more you did stuff? The more we did stuff, the more things became open. We never really had any hard and fast rules. We'd like to know what the other one was doing. We played a lot in separate rooms.

Yeah, that's interesting. And now was that right from the get-go that like solo play in another room was okay? Yes, pretty much. Yeah, that's interesting. And you were, I mean, listen, you're so suited for each other because you're both on the same page. Because a lot of times couples don't allow for stuff like that, right? Or maybe one person wants that or not. But both of you were okay with that.

And now was that right from the get-go? Right from the get-go. And we really never had any jealousy issues. It's like, I'm going to have fun. You go have fun. Yeah, that's interesting. Let me ask you this before you ever got involved in the lifestyle the whole time when you were with your guy, were you ever a jealous woman? Like if you saw your guy looking at girls or anything or were you always like super secure?

Pretty much super secure. I never had any reason to feel jealous or, you know, threatened by anyone. Right, because you just knew your guy was totally into you and everything. Like you just had that kind of trust. Yeah. I mean, we were so vanilla. Right. So when your guys are playing, like, you know, do you remember that first time that you guys,

went in separate rooms? Not specifically. We met one specific couple that they loved separate rooms and they would put a timer. What do you mean? How long would the timer set for? An hour and a half or two hours and they would set their watches and boom, when that time came, you were done. You had to wrap it up.

We expect to see you in the hallway getting ready to leave. Now, is there a preference for you? like as far as playing solo or playing in front of your husband? Like, do you prefer to play solo or do you prefer to play with your guy next to you in tandem? Or does it not matter? At that point, I prefer to play solo. I didn't get off on watching him. Yeah.

Uh-huh. Like it would be too distracting? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I want to focus on who I'm with. If I agree to have sex with you, then I'm going to give you my all. Yeah, I got it. Yeah, it's because of like what you say. You want to be like totally present and lose yourself with that one person. Yeah. Now with with Paul it's different. Yeah, we have to get to that. Okay. Because somewhere along the line, I mean, you guys are playing solo. Okay. And you are just like fucking other people and it's just sex. And I don't know what you and Paul have if it's just sex or more. I mean, he sounds kind of smitten with you. So I was thinking it's like a little bit more. But like I don't know.

I know of a lot more. Yeah. So like where along this timeline do you start having other relationships? I would say I got a little itchy with the group we were with. So I ventured out and found a guy that was five hours away, but we hit it off. And that was a pretty good relationship for about three years. And in the meantime, my husband found a woman. that he developed a relationship with.

So we would, you know, be together for a certain amount of time. And then every other weekend or weekends, we would go visit that friend. Okay, but wait, I need to know how that happens. Like one day, who leans over and says, hey, by the way, like, I'm bored of this and I want to go find somebody else. Do you mind if I look solo? Because typically you're meeting people together. Oh, you're the one? You're the one that raised your hand?

He was pretty satisfied with what was within our group. Yeah, uh-huh. And I wasn't. So I stepped out and got an adult friend finder and found a guy. Now, when you went to your husband, he was just totally okay with that? Pretty much. Yeah. Now, was there any kind of parameters like, yeah, you could go and fuck somebody else,

but I don't want you, like, blowing up their phone and text messaging and everything. I don't know, because I do think that sometimes with solo play, you know, you might have to be a little bit more concerned with emotions getting involved. right? And it sounds like you might have those with Paul now. I don't know. But in the beginning, was there any kind of boundary you had with emotions when it came to your outside partners? Yeah, we tried to reel it into a certain extent. But around the same time, he found this other woman. Yeah. And they started seeing each other. So I would go for the weekend and he would see her for the weekend. And it kind of worked out great. Wow. For about three years. Okay, so for three years.

So you get this guy. Now eventually do you start falling for him? Like emotionally too? Or was it just like a fun booty call friends with benefits? You like him as a person and you love fucking him? There was a little emotion involved in it. And we pretty much stayed, what do you want to call? I'm missing the word, exclusive to each other.

Oh, interesting. Okay, was he married too or was he a single guy? He was a widower. Okay, he was a widower. So he knew that you had a husband, but you didn't fuck anyone else. at that time except him for those three years. Right. Okay.

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Meaning big? Big. Okay. Like BBW? Probably. Okay. Right. So you're like, oh, wow, never knew you were into that?

And I don't have that again. And he's all about, well, variety is a spice of life. And I said, well, you go boy, then. I think that's what turns you on. Go for. Yeah. And it turns out a lot of guys on. I mean, that's just a fucking fact.

But you would just never have known, right, whether if you didn't go down that about it. But like, was that, like, I don't know, was that intimidating? to you at first or like weird because like I said it is something that you never had and that you can never offer him and then you find out that this is something that maybe he's always was into well I'd say weird in the fact that I don't understand it yeah because I'm who I am I take care of my body I work out I'm fit yeah and you're like wow all this time I could be eating bonbons and not working out and you would have just been more into me yeah yes yes watching while I ate yeah right right right

But, you know, if he let me do what I wanted, so I let him do what he wanted. Right. But did jealousy ever come up or did like constant asking questions of being open, like stop that from happening? I mean, how did you navigate that time period successfully? Do you think? I think we were extremely open with each other. Well, I've done this and we're doing that.

What are you guys doing? Yeah. You know, why do you like that? Well, that's not what I like. you need that, go for it. Right, and just being honest, right? It just evolved, yes, yes. Yeah, because I think that a lot of times people do ask questions of their partners

because they want to know stuff, but people don't tell them the truth because they're so afraid that the truth will hurt, right? Right, and that's the worst thing. Yes, because the partner knows, right? It sounds like bullshit, right? I feel like what people don't give other people credit for is most of the time people can handle the truth. What people can handle is the not fucking knowing.

That's what's worse, you know? Exactly. Exactly. Bingo. Yeah. So if you're like, why the fuck do you like that or not me? And he's completely honest. Like you could, you could accept that, right?

Because you kind of like know the truth. And that's it. And I think a lot of times people keep people like jealous or jealousy comes up and insecurity comes up because people don't give other people the truth only because they think they can't handle it. But like I said, they can. People can. They can handle that better than the dishonesty, you know.

So in the lifestyle, you have to be blood-curdling honest. Yeah. with your partner. Otherwise, it will not work. Yeah, totally. Now, was there ever any kind of jealousy between you or your husband at any times with any of these people, these new people that came up? Not really. Maybe just little things like, oh, you're going where? Why didn't you take me there? Yeah, of course. Yeah. But nothing major, I would say. Yeah, interesting. And did you learn anything like over time with like your like having these other people like, you know, because I heard one couple who,

like they started to play solo and they wound up with other partners and they wound up kind of poly and they never sought out to be that way. They were just swingers in the beginning and she said it was very difficult and they were in therapy through it. But when they got to the other side, she said like she just realized, you got to the point where you realize like you can never be everything for one person. You know what I mean? And she's fine with like whatever she can't give her guy. She loves them enough to allow him to get it someplace else and vice versa, you know. Yes. Yes. Yes. That's the thing. I mean, if you want to stay in a vanilla marriage and not be happy with each other, especially when the kids move out and you're faced with each other with nothing

else to do. Yeah. You know, have some fun. Branch out. Yeah. You have to let each other grow or you're going to stagnate. Yeah. And like, look, your husband had different kinds of likes.

And maybe you did too. Like, are there certain things that you've gotten from these guys that your guy is not into? Yes. I would say my, my guy is more of the vanilla side of the lifestyle. Right. If that makes sense. Yeah, totally. And meeting Paul, oh my God, I never knew anything about BDSM,

but boy, do I love it and I'm sucked into it and need it now. Wow. So wait, you're so now have you had like besides Paul, was that other guy, your only other guy or did you have more guys before Paul besides that first guy? Just him, but then some others mixed in. That, my relationship with the other guy lasted three years. Hubby stayed with his girl. They've been going seven years strong.

So I had a, I had a break in between the old, the old guy and my new Paul. Yeah. Yeah. So I dabbled with some other guys. Right. Do you prefer to have like one extra side guy as opposed to like variety

when it comes to like that kind of action? Well, yeah. I'm, uh, well, I like a steady man. Mm-hmm. In my life.

Mm-hmm. But now, Paul and I will dabble with others. Right, I know, because Paul was saying he loves seeing you bang other guys. Paul does have that little part of him that he likes, like he's got compersion, right? Like, that's why he was playing with all those women and giving them pleasure. He loves to see women, you know, he likes to pleasure women and see them pleasure. So he loves what's seeing you fuck other guys.

Yes, he does. Right. No. Right. No. Yeah. Paul has pulled me and gotten me to talk about things that I, I put a damper on him that I couldn't.

I was always into building up the man's ego that I was with. Oh, you're great. Oh, you have the best cock. But Paul's like, tell me the honest freaking truth. Right. You know, what do you like about this guy? He is non-judgmental, not jealous bone in his body. He wants to know exactly what I want.

Right. Where I want it and how I want it. Well, let's get to the point where you meet Paul now. So first of all, let me just ask you real. quick, two questions I had. First of all, why did that relationship end at three years? Do he get a partner or something? Or like, how did that end and why? That's a good one too. Yeah. He wanted me to be by. He was in, he would drool and come in his pants when he saw two women making out. Right. Okay. I tried. I tried for him. Yeah. I could not do it. And he ended the relationship because I would,

didn't give that to him. Yeah, well, then you weren't compatible. I mean, that, you know, that makes sense. That's a good reason to end things for sure, right? Exactly. Yes. Yes. And I realized who I was at that point and what I needed and what I didn't, and I didn't need him telling me what I needed. Okay, so that ended in now, quick question about your husband's girl. Is she married or anything or is she a single woman? No, she's divorced. She's divorced. Okay, but it works for her that he's got this other wife and he's got this relationship with her and, you know, like she's okay. Yeah, yeah, she, yeah, She didn't have a good marriage. So she's very independent, happy to have her independence, but happy to have him, you know, on weekends and from Thursday to Tuesday and go places and travel with him.

Yes. Oh, wow. So that's how much, I mean, she does get a lot of him. Yes, right. Yeah. Yeah. So as independent as she is, she probably likes her couple days downtime. Yeah, for sure.

Of course. She's got the best of both worlds, right? Yeah, then I get the husband back. Oh my God. Do any of your friends know what you're fucking doing? Or is it like a secret life that you live? I have one good girlfriend that is in a lifestyle and she knows what's going on. Right.

But she's right. But none of your mom friends know. No. But I do have a twin and she has just found out. How'd she find out? I can't remember the catalyst that broke it. but she said, I've known for a couple years. You're squirrely when you're away.

You don't answer me. I knew something. I knew some. She was her twin, spiny sense. Yeah. Yes. And she said, I knew something was going on. But my husband told me it's their life.

Let them go. Don't, don't badger them. So she didn't. So you cop to it now? And it's such a relief. It's such a relief having her know. I could imagine because you are very close with her. And how did she feel about it when you told her?

She said, good for you, but it's not for me. Right. We're now really opposite. Yeah, I love that. That's interesting. Okay, so now let's get to the point where you meet Paul. Now, I know from him that, you know, you kind of saw his profile online and were like,

oh, yeah, whatever, because he seemed a little arrogant or something, right? Oh, extremely, yes. I bit back at him. I never do this. And I don't know why he was such a good looking guy. He had his picture up there. and he talked his talk and I took it probably wrong. Yeah, he took it as cockiness.

Cucky and arrogant. Oh, my God. So I bit back at him. I sent him a text or email or whatever and I said, who do you think you are? I can get off myself. I don't need a man to get off. And you can teach a woman to get off?

Where are you coming from? Because really, if people haven't listened to Paul's episode and they should, I mean, he got into pleasuring women. he wound up like doing like doming women and actually helping women who had never orgasm before orgasm. He was so in tune because he had a very interesting thing happened to him. And people have to go listen to the message his, his episode because it's so fascinating. His backstory of how and why he became the guy who was so into pleasing women and so in tune with their body. But he became a professional.

So he was not being cocky. It really was what he did. Yes, yes. And he was being innocent. Yeah, because he's a nice guy. I mean, he was never like doming women in a bad way or a mean way or humiliating way. No, it was all for pleasure. But, you know, me and my psyche and not knowing anything about BDSM, I thought, well, who the hell do you think you are?

Right. So I bit back in him and he replied. I thought either he's going to say, F you, or he won't reply at all. And he came back with a really nice text email and said, hey, would you like to meet sometime? And I said, well, let's carry this conversation on a little bit further before I meet you. And we live two hours apart. And he came up. And he said, meet me at this bar.

And I was there before him. And he walked in. And he prefaced it by saying, I'm not going to say, hire or greet you. I'm just going to kiss you. And he kissed me. And I almost peed my pants. Because he was so hot. And it was so much chemistry.

Yes. And the kiss was, there was chemistry from that minute on. Wow. And I know that he had booked a hotel room that day. Okay, okay, so right? Like, I mean, you got right at right to it, right? Right to it. Two drinks and we were back in that room.

And now he knew your whole story, right? He knows you're married, right? And everything. So now what goes down the first time you bang him like in that hotel room? He had his whole gear set up to like Dom you? He had his travel gear. Yeah, I remember. Which is a quarter, which is a quarter of his whole gear.

But it was enough to, he let me walk in the room by myself so I could. see what was going on so I could see what he had laid out. I had never seen some of those contraptions in my life and some of the dildos that were humongous and and I was like okay on game but baby steps here because I have no clue and and he rocked my world that night. Did you try all those big exertions? Were you ever, were you a size queen at that point? No. No. Between his body and the other things, man, I didn't want to leave him. So, like, I mean, did he give you that full experience?

Did he tie you up and do what he's done to other women that night? He did a little bit, just enough to give me a taste of it, but not to freak me out. Right. But you were into it. Yes. Right. Yes. Okay.

So now you continue to see him. Mm-hmm. I mean, two weeks later, I went down to his place. Now, does he have a whole dungeon set up in his house? Kind of, yes. I mean, okay. So now at this point, do you tell him like you're involved in the lifestyle and stuff? Because eventually you start to bring him into that world, correct?

Yeah, well, it was more the BDSM in the beginning. Uh-huh. And then we started branching out, okay, let's go to this club. There's a club in Louisville, club tempted. I'll speak for them, excellent club, that we started going to. And that's you turning him on because even though he was in this world where he was doing this stuff with this woman, And he really wasn't in the no or in that world at all. No, can you believe not at all?

Not at all. Right. So you kind of corrupted him. So you're like, he's getting kind of. I think I corrupted him a hair compared to what he's done to me. Really? What has he done to you? What did he get you into?

Because you had like, by the time you met him, you were like fully involved in the lifestyle. You're having like, you know, tons of solo play, boyfriends. You have a husband. You've been to tons of parties and everything. Like what does he do turn you on to that you had never experienced before? the toys and the equipment and the um the pain pleasure pleasure orgasms are unbelievable yeah well he did send me a picture of you like fucking tied up with a fucking machine like you know yeah yeah yeah did he do that the first time or like he like you know slow no that's progression

that's down the road yeah yeah yeah the the percussion the percussion yeah the percussion gun and the clitsucker and the things that he does to me while being tied up, blindfolded, send me into a world that I have never known before. Right. So that's a key thing because like blindfolding, and I'm assuming you had never tried that before, that was the first time? Like, does that do something to your other senses, right? Like it heightens them more because you're taking that one away?

Absolutely. Yes. Yes. And it takes for some of his sessions, it takes a while. by the time he starts and he blindfolds me and he places me and he ties this arm and that arm and that leg and the other leg and gets his equipment all set up it could be good 20 minutes or so by the time he's ready to start so all that anticipation being blindfolded not knowing what he's doing but hearing things hearing chains and and and having the leather put on me and the noises he's making while getting ready is I mean he's a touch. me and I'll blow up. Right. So that kind of foreplay is super hot. Yes. Because you don't know what's coming. And what typically, like, walk me through like a hot scenario with him. He takes 20 minutes to tie you up. You know, you mentioned clit kiss or, you know, clit sucker, a gun thing. Like,

you know, walk me through like a hot scenario. Just one, for example. It'll start out with him having me in the other room blindfold me, then leading me into the room, having me stand there while I listen to him getting things organized, then placing me on the bed and then tying me. And then once I'm tied, maybe he'll put oil all over my body and give me a rub down and touch certain places. And then he might get the feather out. He might get the whip out, depending on if I'm on my back or my stomach, and spanking me and using a paddle on me and getting everything heightened. And then he might let he might touch my clit and let me get a little orgasm off my clit and then he'll bring in some dildos or he'll have the fucking machine and he might start out with just a tiny little skinny little dildo in my ass while he's

maybe sucking my clit or sucking my nipples or rubbing more oil on me and it's just an extreme buildup until it's either the biggest dildo in me or I don't know, then he finishes with me and then there's aftercare because he'll hold me because I've, my mind is blown and I'm exhausted. Right. Pleasurably exhausted. How many orgasms have you had? Oh, I'm multi-orgasmic. I squirt like a gallon.

We have special blankets. I think he told me you're like a porn star squirder. Oh, we have special blankets we put on the bed because everything will be soaked. Have you always been a squirder? No, no. When did it start? Maybe 10 years ago with my husband and I thought I peed myself. Yeah, of course, right.

And I said, wait a minute, I didn't pee here. I don't know what happened. But my twin has squirted it since college. She never told me. Oh, that's so interesting. Right? I said, why in the hell didn't you tell me that? Yeah, you could have been squirting a lot earlier. Right. If you had the ability.

But I think it was the point where kids were out of the house or it was more freedom. If I wanted to moan and groan, I could and I just let's let go. Yeah, there is that, you know, what you just said letting go, you know, that's a big part of like being able to squirt. And sometimes it does not happen before you're at a place where you can. can really quote unquote let go. You know, it is very mental too. You have to absolutely let go. Yeah, that's what it's all about.

So, but you squirt with your guy, Paul now, right? All the time. Yes. Yes. Yes. So you're doing. I mean, we can be kissing. If we haven't seen each other for a couple days, we can be kissing and I'll just

let go. Quick question, but I want to get back to some more hot stories and how you got him involved in the lifestyle, though. But because you sound so like fucking into him and I know that he's so into you. And he's a single guy. Is there any kind of confusion because you have this husband and you've now got this boyfriend that it sounds like you probably like him more than any of your other guys that you were with?

Is there any kind of confusion for you navigating both of these relationships at the same time or do you have them in separate places? They're pretty much separated in their own place. Having been married for 43 years, we've been through everything. Right. So. No one's going anywhere. We share three kids and three grandkids with two more coming.

And now Paul is just a beautiful part of my other life. Yeah. And they're crossing over. Our kids don't know. But what? One of them know of him. Oh, really? You're being even more open about that.

Just have met him. Don't know who he is. Just know him as a friend. But now do you go out with, because I'm, I feel like you might have mentioned this early on, like the four of you, meaning your husband, his girl, you and Paul, have you guys gone to like clubs together or done anything together? Not really because it doesn't really work for us. Her personality is extremely different than mine.

In what sense? She's very domineering, very aggressive, very opinionated. And that is not me. Right. Okay. And you don't like it. You don't like that. No.

No. No. You know, I'm called submissive. I wouldn't say I'm meek and mild, but I'm totally different than her. Right. Okay. So you guys don't really like do any kind of for some experience or fuck with them in the other room or together or anything like that. No. No. No. But he's not intimidated at all. There's no jealousy with the fact that you met Paul and have this like intense connection with him. Well, what's funny is that he still had his girlfriend when I didn't have the other guy when I broke up with him. So he encouraged me to find someone. Right, because he felt bad. You felt bad. Yeah.

And I was to the point where I was going to give up. Yeah. That I said, there is no one out there that is compatible to me that wants to give me what I need. Yeah. So I almost gave up. And he said, no, keep going. And then boom, there was Paul. Yeah, the one guy you hated.

or I thought you were going to hate. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, I love that story. You never know. But wait, so, but he's happy that you're taking care of because he is as well. Yes, because now he has the freedom to be with her. Yeah, of course. And go and do what he wants to do.

Right. Yeah. Yeah. So, like, that relationship will never, like, no matter how far you fall with Paul, like you're not leaving your husband for anybody, right? I mean, that's like your life. Like, you guys are in it to the end, correct? Yes.

Yes. Yes. Yes. because we have the three kids and the grandkids, and Paul is not going to get married ever again. Right. So he's happy as well. Like it works for him. Yes. Yeah, that's perfect. And I have told him he is not getting married ever again. Yeah. But wait, so now, because eventually you do get him to switch a little bit, you know, because he's always doming everyone. You're kind of doming him and you've started to tie him up.

And you also turned him onto the lifestyle. And now you're fucking guys, you know, in front of him for his pleasure. Like, when did that all start? We haven't really done that. We are in this, in the beginning stages of him being the stag and meet a hot wife, but we're so picky. We're both extremely fit. He is, he's got veins popping out and muscles all over the place. Right. I try and keep myself in shape. So to find, we're not going to fuck anybody. Yeah, I get it. And, because our sex life is off the charts. So to find anybody to bring in, bring in, it's, you know, we're picky and we don't want anybody that's not fit and not so compatible with both of us. It has to be both of us. Yeah, of course. Now, when did you start bringing him to clubs? Have you guys played at clubs

with other people or together at clubs? Like, what have you done in the lifestyle? Just us, just us. Okay. Well, we did play one time in a lot. a playroom with other friends. Right. But it's just been mainly us at the club. And so you'll go there with just Paul instead of your husband, correct? Correct. Right.

On nights when maybe your guy's away with his girlfriend. Right. Right. Yeah. Oh, my God. So, all right. So he wants to be a stag and see you with other. Have you fucked any other guys in front of him?

I thought you did maybe or no. Maybe one or two at a house. party, but it was, it was just kind of quick and nothing to fruition, I'd say. Right. But that's something, though, that you guys have, like, on your list to do maybe if you find the right person. Yes, yes. We're talking with right now, like, two guys that we would bring in if it works out. And now why, as a submissive yourself, did you turn around and, you know, make him a switch and start doming him? Like, what got into you? I wouldn't say I really don't

him. It's just a little bit of a switch because he's never had anybody do that to him. I know. And one time we were messing around and I put his arms over his head and I held his arms down and he goes, okay, keep going. Yeah. He had never had anybody do that to him.

Yeah, it was funny because when we were talking, he was telling me he's got this problem with his nerves because of what happened to him and people have to go listen. It was super interesting and, you know, but he was saying what he does to these other women who have issues that can't really orgasm, he takes away their senses and it just heightens everything. I'm like, well, why don't you try that for yourself? You know what I mean? Yes. You know, and he's like, well, that's what I'm doing now.

Like, that's what you're doing for him. You know, it's like, it's interesting that like almost like everything that he was doing for these other women was something that should, he should be doing for himself to have the pleasure. He's always been spending his time pleasuring everybody else. Yes. He is so much a giver, too much a giver. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I love giving him a little bit back. Yeah, so you're giving him what he has given to you. Like you're sort of like tying him down or whatever. Like have you done that whole experience? Just, I haven't tied his legs. It's just been his arms and with a blindfold. And then, you know, I like to do back to him what he does like making the noises. Yeah. Yeah. Thinking, okay, what the hell is she going to do to me now kind of thing. Yeah. So yeah,

I love giving that back to him. Yeah. And he's enjoying it. Yes. Yes. Yeah. I mean, people have to to his episode because he does talk about how he never sort of did that. He never switched. And I think it's so amazing that the Dom is now being a little bit submissive. That must be super pleasurable for him. Mm-hmm. Yes. And for you, is that great because you like to pleasure your, are you a pleaser too? So you like to have that experience with him? Yes. I mean, he's, he gives to me so much. Three quarters of our time together is him getting you doing with me and pleasuring me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, I need to give back to him. Yeah. So you're how, I mean, listen, you know, you met him at the right time because it sounds like he was ready to submit to you. He told me like so many other, these other women that he would, you know, make calm all that time. Because one of my biggest questions were like, did all these girls like fall for you? And he was like, yeah, but I always told them like no. I said, yeah, but you probably felt that same way, but you changed your mind with her. You know what I mean? Like. Yeah. They didn't have the right chemistry that I have. Yeah. That was like that was some sort of. instant connection, right? You guys had right from the get-go? Yeah, we said the universe put us together

for some reason and here we are. Yeah, I love it. So now how long you guys been together? Only a year and a half. Only. That's kind of long. Oh, my God, we have come so far in a year and a half. Really? Yes. In like what sense? Oh, from, I mean, it blew up zero to a hundred. Sounds like it went fast. It did. It did. There were. I was, after two weeks, I was smitten. Right. It was instantaneous. Yes.

Yeah, those kinds of things were happening often. It was perfect timing for both of us. Mm-hmm. And, yeah, now we're hoping that he'll move up closer. Right. And now, was your husband and him friends? Yes. Yeah?

Mm-hmm. So that's cool. They get along. Yes. I mean, Paul's been here at a time when my husband has still been here, and Paul and I go upstairs and upstairs bedroom and sleep. And hubby sleeps down the master. Are you serious?

Yeah. He gives you your space. Yes. Wow. So you really only play solo. Yeah, no. So it's a really interesting dynamic that you and your husband have very different than a lot of other people that I talk to. And what I love is like you're giving me as unique of a story as Paul gave me.

You know, yours is just more of the lifestyle couple. But even as a lifestyle couple, you're as unique as he is in the BDS. M world in that you guys really only play solo. You really kind of only play with other people. And there's like zero jealousy and it really works. Yeah. And we're not, you couldn't consider us polyamorous because the four of us don't,

there's no mix. Right. But you are, but I consider you Polly because you are kind of spin for two guys at the same time. Right. Like you can be, have feelings for two separate people. Would you ever have thought that that was how you would be?

No, no, can you be half Polly? I don't know. Yeah, I guess. You mean like, yeah, I think so. I think, listen, Polly is not like a group. Polly is just like a person. Like, you're Polly, because you are in love with two people at the same time. That's a polyamorous.

Like, you're a polyamorous. True. You're a polyamorous person. A lot of times when I talk to polyamor. And listen, a lot of people don't do poly correct or they don't do it well. You know, it's very rare that I talk to people that have it. and they're doing it successfully. But when I do, a lot of times that Polly person might have three different partners,

but those partners don't hook up with each other. But they still consider them Polly. Polly doesn't mean that everybody in the group is connected. It just means that that person that's claiming their Polly is able to fall in love with more than one person and have an emotional relationship. Yeah. And has a freedom. You know, and that's what you have because you're really into Paul, right?

Like there's a major emotional connection there. as well as sexual one, correct? There's an extreme emotional connection. Right. But it doesn't take away from your connection with your husband. That's interesting. Interesting. Interesting.

I have the married life with husband and the kids. And then I have my other life with Paul. Are you saying that like that life is like, oh, you know, a little bit more mundane and it's all that stuff. And then this one is like a little bit more like that first boyfriend kind of feeling and like more exciting. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Absolutely.

Of course. Yes. Yes. But you're smart enough to know that you wouldn't leave one for the other because eventually that one would become like, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know. Like, are you smart enough to understand that of course you're going to feel that way with Paul because you don't have the kids and the stuff? You know what I mean? It's just totally different.

It's apples and oranges. Uh-huh. Exactly. We're free. We've got freedom. We're free to explore and do. Whereas, you know, when you're in a marriage for this long and you have that many kids and grandkids, you're tied down. Right, but you're not, but yet you're still able. And like, listen, I think, you know, a lot of people are salivating at your story because a lot of people are stuck in that finella marriage and they have all that stuff and they don't want to leave it, right? But you only live once, right? Why not have that spark again or have another relationship?

That is my philosophy. Yes. Right? Like, you're kind of like living the best life because it's not and it's not like as much as like, because when I said, oh, does it interfere? You're like, but it is like you're just able to have both at the same time. Right? Paul and I try and spend from Thursday to Tuesday at least every other week with each other. Right. And your guy's fine with that. Yes, because he's with. His girl. His girl. Yeah. Wow. Wow. All the stars have really fucking aligned with all of the people in this thing. And what are the chances of that? Yeah. I know. I'm so blessed. And your husband too, you know, and his girlfriend too. Because, you know, she was in that abusive thing and

has this guy and has the perfect setup, right? And as harsh as she is, she's got like a probably a real loving guy. Like your husband sounds like a great guy. Like she's got a good side guy, right? Oh, yes, she does. Yes. Yeah. And your husband doesn't have to care that you have this great side guy that you're smitten

for because he's got his girl. And no one's leaving. Now, do you? Because like what I did ask you, like, is there any kind of comp? I don't know. You're like, like, I mean, do you ever worry that you would want to leave your husband for Paul full time or anything or do you never have plans to ever like end that relationship for anything no matter what no no I could not get divorced right and and and with Paul moving up to be

close to me I have the best of both worlds right right there's no reason for it right yeah I love that yeah it's interesting love your story you did floor me every step of the way it's so unique I'm so glad that I changed your appointment so I could air your episode right after Paul's Yes, thank you. You know, I think it really works right after his because he gave such a like a little bit of it. And then you just like took it to a whole other place. And I'm so glad that I did. I didn't include you in his episode and had a whole episode for you because your fucking story.

Could have taken two hours. Do you know what I mean? Yes. Yeah. So thank you so much for calling in. He sent me one picture of you tie down. It's a hot pick of you. If you want to send me more, I think there's another pick.

But if you want to send me some like anonymous picks for my page. Patreon. That would be like super cool. I do anonymous picks over there. And then I'll give both of you guys free access to my Discord. You could go there and talk to people and stuff. All right. I'll have him send you the picks. Yeah, perfect. But thanks so much for calling you. I loved your story and I love how you and your husband roll. Well, thank you. We listen to you all the time. I love that. I love that. Well, can't wait for you to listen to your own story. You're going to love it. Actually, when you hear it outside of yourself, you're going to find it like super interesting. You'll see. Okay. So Paul comes out tomorrow. Okay. Thanks. much for calling. All right. Bye. Have a good one. You too. Bye. Okay. I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and ebook, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang being girl story.

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