Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 998 - Andy and Immy are in an Open, Poly Relationship and They’re Into BDSM

Episode Date: December 27, 2024

Andy and Immy are in an open, poly relationship and they’re into BDSM and they called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including how when they first mer Andy refused to be monogamous and how Immy felt about it at first, how and why he was honest about what he wanted and how and why that worked in the long run, how Andy started as dom and then got Emmy into femdom and now she she now doms him, how being a sub is hard for Andy but why he’s into it, the girlfriend they have and the rules they have regarding their relationship with her, how they started their open, bdsm relationship up and how it was set up from the get go,how and why he believes kink and bdsm and open relationships can work for people and how and why he enjoys helping others live his same life on their Youtube channel Andy Wellsl, how and why Andy used pick up artist tactics to get girls early on and why he doesn’t use them anymore plus a whole lot more. Their Youtube channel to hear more: https://www.youtube.com/c/KillYourInnerLoser/featured **To see HOT pics of ANDY & IMMY plus my female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! MY BOOK IS NOW OUT FOR PRE-ORDER!!!! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY NOW: https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd To Join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712 or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712 Want to be on the show? Email me at [e-mail] or go to http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com and click on "Be on the Show" Have something quick you want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. You can call 24/7. All voices are changed. Sponsors: https://bluechew.com Get your first month FREE! https://butterwellness.com/ Try the Butter Wellness perineum massager and use code STRICTLY for 20% off your entire order https://beducate.me/anonymous40 Get BEDucated! For 40% off PLUS a FREE 24-hour trial, click the link and use code: anonymous Follow me! Instagram https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/ Twitter https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en Website http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/ Everything else https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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They're a couple. They have their own YouTube channel. It's called Andy Wells. They do talk about their open relationship, BDSM, kink, mental health, all that kind of good stuff. They came on to talk about their open relationship. They talked about how they met, how they opened it. They were open from the get-go and just like sort of having casual sex, sleeping with other people while they were together. And then they decided to get serious.

They talk about that because it wasn't like an easy thing, how they decided to get serious with each other after a while. and then, you know, how they continued to be open. Things changed once they became serious. They talk about that. We talk about their past history, like, separate from each other. He had a difficult past, and there was a time where he was, like, into the whole pickup artist stuff, and he was just sleeping with tons of women. He talks about that, and now he's in this relationship with Emmy, and Amy talks about

her backstory on how she was always into kink and stuff, and then eventually met Andy and now enjoys, like, regular sex, because before that she was like. that's all that stuff. But they also have a girlfriend who they've been with for two years. They used to just like sleep with a lot of different women. Now they're with one woman and they've been with her for two years. It's kind of like a poly situation and they talk all about it. They're super interesting couple. They like I said, have their own YouTube channel and podcast where they talk about all this stuff that they talked about this on this episode, but much more in depth. Andy Wells is the name of the podcast and the YouTube channel. I'll put this, uh, links

to their stuff in the description. But anyway, I'm going to be right back on with Andy and Imi. Hi, Imi and Andy. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you guys all the way over there in Australia? You're like a day ahead of me, correct? Is it Sunday there, Saturday? I don't know. Are you behind me or ahead of like the United States as far as days are concerned? Yes, it's 7 a.m. Sunday morning for us. Oh, okay. We're in the future, baby. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You are in the future? Crazy. And you're also, are you on like the bottom of the earth or on the top of earth. I'm so bad with geography, but I know you're very far away. But you're not far away in what I talk about on my show. You are a couple. You live in Australia. You're a young couple who have an open marriage and you sleep with women. You bring women into your relationship. You guys do have a YouTube channel. I'm impressed with the fact that you're still able to be on there talking about what you do because I got fucking deleted doing the same thing. But you guys do have a YouTube channel. It's called, you just changed it to the name. is Andy Wells, W-E-L-L-S.

I will put a link to your YouTube channel in the description. Now, do you guys on your YouTube channel, do you talk about your open marriage and stuff like that? Is that what it's about? So it is actually, it's an open, we're not married, although that might be on the cards

in a couple years from now. But yes, we know we do talk about that as well as like general self-development, self-improvement. We talk about, yeah, sex, kink, relationships, dating, all sorts of bits and bob. So it's not just about being an open relationships. It's lots of

different things in there as well. Right. All the layers that go with it, right? Which I love. I love that. Yeah, that's cool. But so you guys, though, have been together for a long time, right? And that's what makes you experts. It's not like, I mean, you are young. Emmys 24, Andy's 37. But you guys have been together for many years, correct? Yeah, we have. Yeah. I wouldn't say we're experts. That's a hell of a word to throw around. No, well, you're not newbies. A relationship works for us. You're not newbies. Yeah. Well, okay, let me ask you this. Because I've talked to, you know, I have over 900 episodes at this point. And, you know, I talk to people who have been doing it, you know,

after a year, after two years, after 10 years, after 40 years, you know, for you guys, you know, you're together six years. Did you start off this way or did it happen like two years ago that you guys decided to do this? So it started off when we first started dating. It was incredibly casual. Like it was very much like non-exclusive. There were no real expectations. And so in a way it's always been open. Yeah. And just as things have progressed, we've kept aspects of the open relationship,

but we've just become more serious as a couple and very committed to each other. And it's definitely been an iterative process. And there's been a lot of learning along the way. And it's still been, like, I guess boundaries and expectations put in place as things have become more serious. And like, for example, when we first started dating,

it was a case of like you can see whoever you want, There's not a lot in the way of rules or expectations. And then as time's gone on, it's been a case of like, well, now we only really see women together. We have kind of had discussions of us each seeing people independently again, if that's something that we wanted to do. But at the moment, we're just seeing other women together as a couple. So we date as a couple. But you've done other things. And we'll get your whole, you know, history now.

But that's where you're at now. But it didn't start out that way is what you're saying. it was casual and you went in like open. This isn't really going to amount to anything. You probably never expected to still be with each other six years later, possibly married in three years. So you were just like having fun in the beginning. And so it was easy to sort of sleep with other people is what you're saying, right?

And like, because you didn't have, you know, and have no rules then because you weren't emotionally attached to each other. Yeah, it was definitely very different. And finally enough, actually, it was about, it's funny that you mentioned that like they weren't. really expectations and it was a bit easier and there's the expectation that's not going to last because I think it was about a year in. I actually broke up with Andy because I was wanting something that felt more committed and I was wanting more. And then after that, that actually initiated

a big conversation about like expectations and what we both wanted going forward because we both really lacked one another. But a few things needed to shift in the relationship dynamic for me to be, I guess, satisfied or feel wanted enough was probably a good way of expressing it. Since I met Andy, he was always very honest and very transparent of like missing other people. I'm never somebody that can be monogamous because you, Andy, you tried being monogamous in previous relationships and it was just very, very challenging for you and it didn't end particularly well. And so because that was always like, I think you would have brought it up, you know, once a week. You make it very, very clear of like, I'm not monogamous.

I can't be monogamous. I was like, right. Yeah. Yeah, I said it like hundreds of times to make sure. Well, listen, you know what? Isn't that better than the guy who's not saying it. just banging hundreds of girls behind his girlfriend's back. I know, right?

Take your pick, which guy do you want? Yeah. Yeah, and I guess the reason that it ended up being at that point in time, like a breakup rather than like a conversation about what we wanted, it was because I thought Andy was so set and so clear on what he wanted because he'd said it about a thousand times that I was like, all right, well, it's not a negotiable. It's just like this is what is probably not right for me.

So I'm going to have to make the tricky decision to be in love, but to break up with somebody because I know it wasn't what was right for me, but I think because of that, it did start that conversation. Maybe, Andy, you were more willing to discuss and maybe we're more flexible than I thought you were. Yeah, and it's like we misunderstood what we were both wanting. I basically said to her after the breakup, I was like, wait, would you be happy to keep this relationship going and to go deeper and build more if we dated women together? And she was like, yeah, and I was like, wait, then why did we break up? Like, I'm okay with that.

It was sort of more of a misunderstanding, I think. Right. So you, Imi, knew that you wanted more exclusivity, but it wasn't like you just totally wanted a relationship with one person to be monogamous. Well, it's interesting because I think I'm probably somebody that is quite adaptable. So like another example is that like Andy is someone who's had a vasectomy. So we're not going to have kids. But I think if I was with somebody who was like really passionate about marriage and building a family, I could also be swayed in that direction and get really on board with that. And I think it's the same in this case in which,

like, I'm probably actually more monogamous at heart. Like, there's probably more of a leaning towards monogamy, but I'm still somewhere on the spectrum that is obviously open to aspects of an open relationship. And so it was a case in which Andy offers enough to my life so that I'm very happy to be in this relationship because there's a lot of love and I'm growing a lot in the relationship.

So I was happy to explore aspects of the... the open relationship side with some changes at that point in time. Right. Because so at that point in time, you were seeing people separately in Solo. Is that what was going down? Because I know that you switched to it only being together. What was the setup for that first year?

It was more either of us could see anybody. But I think at that point in time, again, I think maybe because I am somewhat more monogamous, I didn't really have any interest in seeing other people. It was interesting, actually, because Andy was seeing other people and I knew he was and he was very clear about that, I almost felt this pressure that I had to be doing so as well,

because otherwise there would be a weirdness or an imbalance. So I was kind of pushing myself to see people, but I didn't really want to. It almost felt like I was forcing myself to see other people in addition to Andy's, like specifically other men because then it would be like fair. But I really wasn't enjoying it. And so basically for like after six months, I wasn't really seeing anybody other than Andy and any women that Andy was also saying that we might see together. And I think at that point in time, I was aware that it was Andy that was just seeing other people.

And I felt like I was almost monogamous with Andy, but Andy wasn't with me, if that makes sense. I think that that totally works and can work. And I've heard every kind of variation of, you know, open relationships. They're all set up different. and it really all depends on what works. Yeah, 100%. And it's interesting because I think a lot of outside opinions can kind of sway where you're at. Because I think like if you say to the average person that's in a monogamous relationship,

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my podcast. It should be fair and balanced and equal. And it's, yeah, it's understanding that that might not be your preference. Yeah, we've had so many comments, maybe not a lot, but we've had comments sometimes on our YouTube channel from people saying, but this isn't fair. And we've said, yeah, but we've both just literally told you that we're both very happy. Are you telling us to do something that's more fair that would make us both unhappy? Like, are you putting, quote, fairness above happiness? So I think sometimes people get lost in that in the pursuit of like equality and fairness. They don't ask themselves what they both actually want. That's never people in the lifestyle. That's always people outside of the lifestyle, just like sort of interjecting and projecting how they would feel

in it. I mean, to me, what's most important is that nobody twist themselves up into a pretzel to do something for the other person, you know? And that's what's kind of interesting about you, Amy, because you said, like, it's not like you were, because there was a certain point where you're like, oh, you're just sleeping with other people because he is. And then, you know, you want to leave him because you want to have a more traditional relationship. But he's like, well, can we still do this? And you're like, okay, it's not like you were going against what you wanted. You're just the type of person that could just kind of go with the flow? Like, did you do it for him in the beginning? Or was it something that was appealing to you as well? I think, yeah, if I'm totally honest, it probably was for Andy in the beginning. Because when I

first met Andy, I was young. It was my first relationship. I was very in love. I, at that point in time, didn't have a lot of confidence and probably not a lot of self-esteem. And I was probably willing to go along with things that I wasn't actually happy with. And it's, it's been interesting how things have kind of naturally played out and evolved. As I've grown, Andy's also grown and we've evolved so much. And I feel like there's so much more love and kindness and like self-knowledge that's being discovered in the relationship on both sides. Well, listen, you got a complete honesty in your relationship and I think that's a lot of what most relationships are lacking. You know, I mean, you have a guy that's like completely 100% like, this is who the fuck I am and I don't care. I give Andy credit for being so,

up front and honest and at least you know you have that with him and I think that that's so great right because you have that builds trust in a relationship it's funny that you mention honesty you have no idea how many of my clients that I work with like coaching clients that I work with on their like sex life or their relationship life they will say that they really want something like it's their biggest hope and dream for a relationship and I'll say great why don't you just tell everybody that you're dating that that's what you want and they'll go well I can't do that you know I can't just be honest because what if I get rejected? And it's like, well, if you get rejected, then you move on to the next person and you say, would you like this? And you keep asking until

you find the person who says, yes, I want what you're looking for. But that, like you said, almost seems too good to be true. It's like, I can't just be honest and tell people what I want. Why not? It's sad, but it's true. You know, like it's, and like, that's why I say, like, it seems like not that big of a deal, but it really is the fact that how honest you are. So I think, Emmy, like for you, as much as maybe

that honesty at some point was hard to take, I think long term, don't you feel like you have such trust with your guy because you know he's so fucking honest? Like if he's going to tell you that,

he's going to tell you anything. You know what I mean? Yeah, so much so. Like, it's funny. Like, there's definitely been a lot of challenges

that maybe other couples haven't needed to navigate. But it's also meant that, like you see, said our communication is so, so, so much better. And we've, we've had to work on things. So, like, the open line of communication, the trust, the honesty, like, it's meant that we do, we have grown so much closer. And there's been a lot of skills that we've, I guess, gained throughout this process, like this learning iterative process. Well, let's get through the process.

So, you know, you're dating for the, in the beginning now. Let me ask you this, Amy. Had you been with women before and been into, like, kink and stuff that you got into with Andy, or did were you totally vanilla and you met Andy and he sort of introduced you to stuff? How did it start out? So I was definitely very kinky at heart. Like I think even when I was a kid I probably got into porn and kink just like online reading stuff or watching stuff very, very early. So that was always something I wanted to seek out.

And basically all of my experiences up until that point, Andy was probably the third person that I'd been with or third guy that I'd been with. all of my experiences had been kinky. That was definitely something that I wanted. I actually really struggled to be vanilla or like do anything that was vanilla at the start because I think for so many years I'd expose myself to very hardcore, intense stuff.

Like what? It felt it was more just the porn that I was watching. So like very extreme BDSM, a lot of impact play, like a lot of aspects of dominant submission. And that it just made that normal sex or normal sex acts They didn't feel satisfying or gratifying. Of course. You started there.

I mean, you know, where do you go? Yeah, and it was actually only within the relationship that I kind of learned that like aspects of intimacy and gentleness or even tantra at times. Like that can actually be a really beautiful thing. And it's more about like connecting with the other person. But that took a while for me to learn. So yeah, initially quite a bit of kink. And I actually met Andy through Tinder purely because in his profile, he was quite open about him being into kink and that was what attracted me and you asked about experiences with

women as well so before meeting and my very first sexual experience actually i think my first kiss was with one of my close friends who was a woman and she and i were drunk and had made out and i think i went down on her so that was my first sexual experience so i definitely knew that i was into women and yes kink was definitely always on my mind especially at the start who were you guys when you met Like, I mean, were you a sub looking for Dom and he was the one where you both switches? Like, what was your kink setup, you know, dynamic, actually, when you guys met each other in the beginning? Yeah, I'll answer this one. I was 100% Dom and she was 100% submissive.

And she, like, very much made that clear that she was looking for someone who would take care of her and be nice to her and train her and teach her. And she literally said the statement, I just want to be good for someone. Right. And so that was how we started. And then I became a lot more open-minded and became sort of a little bit more switchy. And she became a little bit more of a switch. But I essentially had to train her to be more into Femdom because she had no idea where to start, no idea what to do.

I didn't really have any idea either. So I sort of took the dominant leading role in teaching her how to be the dominant one. So it was sort of a really interesting process. Yeah. And that's something that we've done with. other women that we date as well. We've taught them how to be dominant if they want to, which I found that almost every person I've ever asked wants to try being dominant, like even the most hardcore, submissive people. It's just that they're utterly terrified

that they have no idea what to do. They're worried about feeling silly. They go, I've never taken the lead. I don't know how I would begin to even do that. But I found that most people, if you're just gentle and patient with them, they want to explore that side of themselves. They're just never thought that they were allowed to. Yeah. And was that the case for you? Andy, I mean, you were always very much the Dom and then all of a sudden you decided to switch it up and you became a sub, I'm assuming at some point. And like, would you, would you have ever guessed that you would be able to be a sub and be into it? No, I would have thought I'd be the last person on the entire planet. That's sort of like a greater, a greater journey that I've been on in my life

in general, like letting go and surrendering and not always needing to be in control. I think that I'm someone that for most of my life, I felt like my agenda had to come true and my plan for life had to work out and everything I wanted had to work out. Otherwise, I would feel very disappointed in myself and I'd put a lot of pressure on myself to be perfect. And so exploring that sort of more submissive or letting go side of myself has been almost more of like a spiritual journey or a self-improvement journey of like, can I let go and just enjoy what's happening right now without needing to control every bit of it. And I'm not perfect with that. It's something I'm still working on, but it's been a lot of fun. I mean, I would love to jump in though and say that recently-ish,

Andy was being the submissive and the girl that we've been dating together for a couple of years now, she and I were kind of like having this scene where both of us were dominating Andy, which is actually not something where both women have been dominating Andy. It's usually he and either myself or the other girl, will dominate whichever girl is remaining. Yeah. But we played around with that. And I will say that as much as Andy just spoke about letting go and learning to be submissive, he was the biggest rat on the planet.

That's why I said it's something I'm still working on. Yeah, exactly. Yes, thank you. Yeah, he didn't make it seem like he's there yet. I definitely heard the thing that it's still something he's working on. So now you guys like have this open relationship right from the get-go. It's all based around kink. You're like having a lot of fun.

And then Emmy gets serious. Now at that same time, I guess Andy, you had fallen for her too and felt like you were cool with getting serious with her. Had you had other relationships, Andy before?

Yeah. So I'd had a four-year relationship, a six-year relationship, a one-year relationship. Okay. And yeah, it was a really interesting point because I remember standing,

so after we'd broken, after she'd broken up and said, hey, I think I'm looking for something a bit more serious. committed or deeper or something like that. I remember having this shower and I was just standing in the shower thinking really hard for about like three hours.

I literally had a three hour shower. What? For real three hours? Not exaggerating. Literally. Yeah. Yeah. Not exaggerating.

Just standing there going like, all right. Like this is a point in my life where I could either go on and meet other women and have casual sex and all of that. Like I know how to do that. I've done that a ton. Like I know I can go and find another I'm. Like, that's 100% in my mind.

I know I can find someone like her. But do I want to go and start another one year relationship and build all of that and get to this same point? And then what? I break up because she's not 100% perfect again. Like, does this cycle just sort of keep happening? Right. Or would I like to take a little chance right now and say, okay, maybe there are some

things that we need to work out. Maybe we're not exactly sure how the relationship dynamic is going to be. Maybe we don't have a 100% guarantee that. we can make this work. But would I like to take that chance? And would she like to take that chance? And so that's when I, you know, swallowed my pride because there was a big part of me that said, no, never compromise. Like always do everything you want all the time. Yeah. But I sort of swallowed my pride and said, no, I think this is, this has the foundations and the potential of a beautiful relationship. We already add to each other's lives an incredible amount. And I think that

there's something here that might be worth building upon. I'll just reach out to her and see where she's out. And so that's when I sent her the message and I said, I actually texted it from the shower. I was standing in the shower. Oh my God. That's just. I don't know how my phone didn't break from the they're waterproof now. Yeah, the waterproof now. Maybe yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but I texted her and I said, hey, would you want to date if we only dated women together and I didn't see them outside of you? Like, if we dated women together, would you want to do this? And she said, yeah, I would. And I said, and I said, oh, okay, well, why the hell did we break up? And then we sort of talked it through and figured out what to do and went from there. But yeah, that was a very big turning point for me, because I

definitely had a big amount of pride that was like, no, if someone breaks up with you, then they should go and, you know, screw themselves. Like, why would you ever get back with? Yeah, yeah, I very much had that ego pride. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A hundred percent ego and pride. Yeah, 100%. And I was like, wait, do I want to just be right here and be like, no, she broke up with me, you know, I'm going to take a stand here and she can go to hell. Or do I want to. be happy and I decided to choose to be happy and I'm glad I did. Wait, how long after you dumped him did come back? Like, was it that same day? It was like the next day. Yeah, I think it was like the next day. Yeah, oh my God. All right. So it was, it was certainly surprise. Yeah, I could have, yeah, because like,

you never even considered that it would be a possibility for this guy to change. So when you said no, you had gotten to the point where you like were like knew you had to give it up. Yeah, which was so hard at the time. Like I was 18 at the time. I, or maybe I was 19 and I was very, very, very in love. And I think as a first relationship, experiencing like those romantic love feelings for the first time, then having, like, then making the decision to break up with that person. Like, I was at a point, I was only getting to that point because I really wasn't feeling like I was getting enough, but I didn't feel special. And at times, I really didn't feel loved. Like, it, it didn't seem like I was really, I felt like I was just another girl in Andy's life. And he was.

seeing all of these other women as well, so that was starting to really hurt, and it only was from that place of a lot of pain that I was able to make that decision of, like, okay, this is as much hurt as I can take, I need to change something for my own sake, even though I am very attached, very in love, was from that place of a lot of pain that I was able to make that decision of like, okay, this is as much hurt as I can take, I need to change something for my own sake, even though I am very attached, very in love, care about this person a lot. And you know what's funny is like that like that just says that you love yourself more, which is where you're supposed to come from, where where you should come from and where

people who have like healthy self-esteem. That's where those people come from. Like I was the opposite of you. I would have just stayed and, you know, been treated like shit for hour. You know, a lot of women wouldn't do what you did. I give you credit at such a young age to sort of take such good care of yourself that, you know, even though you really love this guy and he was so great, you loved yourself enough to go out and look for someone that was going to make you feel better.

And that's the way it should be. You know, it just shows that you are like a solid person. Everything you just said is literally the reason why I reached back out to her. Because I was like, holy crap, this is incredibly strong boundaries for someone at 19. My respect and admiration for her just went through the roof because I literally realized, oh, she's not going to be with me if it makes her unhappy. She's not a door bat. If we do end up, exactly.

So now if we do end up getting back together, I can trust her. I can trust that she actually wants to be here, that she's not putting up with something that's making her unhappy. And I would not have reached back out to her if she hadn't had such strong boundaries. And like you said, self-love. Yeah, obviously. I can trust her. Yeah.

I mean, it took me my whole life to get to where she's at at 18, 19. I mean, that, like I said, shows like how, you know, you have like a lot of self-esteem and you were a very, like, healthy, solid person, which is amazing, you know, because so many people don't have that so young, you know, which I think is great. So now when you started then to fall for each other, now you're in the relationship, right? And you are sleeping with women together. That's what happened when you started again. Like you just started to see just women together, never any guys, right?

Yeah, that's correct. Yeah. So what did you do? Like, did you have like girls that were like in rotation that you had and you'd have threasons with them or like, do, did you go on apps looking for girls? because I know that you do have a girlfriend now that you've been seeing a girlfriend, quote, unquote, now. I don't know what that means. Is that like a Polly thing?

Or is it just a regular girl that you have? Yeah. So she would be very happy for us saying her name. Her name is Bronwyn. She's come on our podcast a few times. And yeah, we've been seeing her for about two years. She's an absolute sweetheart of a person. But what we started out by doing was just casual sex.

So we would meet people on Tinder and Hinge, like the dating apps. and we had a profile where I had BDSM pictures and I had pictures of Imi like us together and we were just very upfront and honest like in our bio we said we're in an open relationship we're both into BDSM we both like to teach you know message us if you want to and we'll take it from there

and then we would just tell people exactly what we were looking for when they first messaged us or when we messaged them and Imi had her own profile as well and that was set up with pictures of her and the same thing in her profile she said I'm in an open relationship with this guy and message us if you'd like to explore that. So that's sort of how we started and it was very casual sex. And I think it was just like literally sex only because Imogen or Imy didn't want the feelings

side of thing. I think she was just happy for it to be sex only. But then as the years have progressed, we both wanted something a little bit deeper, a little bit more intimate. Not that there's anything wrong with just sex, but we've both gotten to a point where were like, I think we want to build with someone. And it's funny, we had a goal a couple of years ago where we said, you know, everyone that we date, it's always just casual and they will see us for a few months. And then either they'll leave or we'll break up with them or we moved a few times

and stuff like that. And they just never, it never seems to build into something long term. And so we sort of set the goal where we said, we'd like to see a woman for at least six months, if not longer. And we kind of just put that out. And it wasn't much longer after that that we met Bronwyn and yeah now we've been seeing her for like we said two years we do sometimes see other people but not a lot like we're pretty much spending most of our time right now with just her and obviously with each other and when you see her though is it it's still always together correct like there's still no separate play with either one of you with her so initially it was that we were only seeing her and the rules we'd only see women together yeah but I think as there's been

more trust that's built up. I said it's almost been two years now. Yeah. There's definitely been a lot of trust with her as well. And I think that's in large part come from my side of things, like me having a lot of trust with her, feeling really comfortable and safe around her. And so I think it actually came like the first couple of times. It was more just for like hanging out like more, I guess social sort of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Like yes, definitely emphasizing like the friends in the, I guess friends with benefit sort of thing where like I'd be going on a hike with some of my other friends and I'd invite her along and Andy's not a hiking person so he wouldn't come along. And so there was like that time I had one-on-one time with her that

Andy didn't. And after that happened a few times, I think I was going on a trip to like interstate. And I was like, you know, Andy, since obviously we're not going to be having sex because I'm away, you're welcome to see Brumwin on your own if you would like. And so that was really the first time in quite a few years that we'd really explored that. And so now we're both quite comfortable with us each, like hanging out with Brumwen or having sex with her independently. That's, yeah, that's been, I guess, a new evolution over the last couple of years or year or so, I guess. That's kind of interesting. And maybe it's because you built that foundation and have a real relationship with her and you really know her.

You know, it's been two years, right? As opposed to the other people, you're just like you said, they were typically just around for three months. Yeah, I think it's definitely a trust thing for sure. Like, she's a very sweet, loving, gentle person. and I think that makes it a lot easier. And what's her deal? Is she like, are you guys the only people she plays with?

Does she have a boyfriend, a girlfriend? Is she a single girl? Like, does she consider you guys her boyfriend and girlfriend? Like, what would she say? We've never really put labels on it,

but we've had like a thousand conversations with her about this. And we've made it very clear, like, do whatever you want. Like, see whoever you want. Yeah. You know, maybe the only thing that we would ask is if you have on protected sex. Just like let us know. You can do whatever you want. Just let us know because we don't

wear condoms with her because, you know, it's sort of just the three of us in a little bubble where we only sleep with each other and we've all been tested and all of that. But other than that, no, like we say, do whatever you want, but she's just never really wanted to. She's been on dating apps quite a few times and we've asked her about that. And she just says, like, I don't know. I meet people on the dating apps and maybe I go on a date, but I just don't really feel like sleeping with anyone else. So she's open to, but I think she's happy. seeing just us. She lives quite a busy, independent life anyway. And I think she's just like casually seen like over the last two years, like maybe a couple of

people here and there and maybe had sex. But my understanding is that that's mostly, it's like on dating apps. It's mostly vanilla. And it's not really turned into much else. Right. But are there emotions between the three of you? Like would you call yourselves if you had to label it Polly? Like are you guys in an emotional relationship with her too? Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah, we love it a bit. She loves us a bit.

So we talk like every day. We're all very open and honest and I guess she would say vulnerable with our feelings. Like for sure. So it's like you guys are her partner. So it is like she has somebody. So why would she then go looking, right? I mean, she has her, you guys feel like you guys are fulfilling to her as well, right? I think so.

Yeah. And we ask her many times. and she asks us the same question. We say, are you happy seeing us? Is there anything that you would like from us that you're not currently getting? Is there anything that you feel like we could give you or do a little better?

Or is there anything you want to work on with us? Anything you'd like us to work on? And sometimes there's answers to those questions and then we improve that. Other times it's just, no, like I'm very happy seeing you guys. Thank you for asking. And now I'm assuming because you guys have a YouTube channel and your faces are on it, right?

I mean that you guys are just very out and proud of like everything that you're into and how your relationship is set up and all that kind of stuff like as far as friends and families are concerned or no I don't know yeah but that took a years that took years to get to that point you have no idea how terrified we both were to start putting ourselves out there yeah how did you know because you had who like how did that happen and when did that happen I think I started I already had a blog where I would talk about some sex stuff and some self-improvement stuff and then I started a YouTube channel. And so I was already putting my face out there, but I was really terrified

to do that. And then I think I invited I'my to come on a few episodes and just talk about our relationship and give some advice to, you know, women. And she was really scared. Yeah, it's so funny, actually, because I think when Andy had a blog, I would like insert my opinion in like a paragraph or two. And then there was the podcast. And it's funny the jump, obviously talking after just writing something and then the jump beyond that, which is then being on video. Like, it was actually very confronting going from just audio where you're a bit more anonymous. Like, it's very chill, not being on camera, but when you're on camera, there's definitely this sense of like presenting yourself and you're very, you're very much out there. And obviously the nature

of like being online is that people like to comment on your appearance. Yeah, just about everything. And so, yeah, it was definitely a little bit tricky at the start. and you kind of have to like let go of the idea of people finding out. And it was funny actually. I made a trip back to my hometown recently. And it was a high school friend's birthday party. And I met up with some high school, some people that I went to high school with that I haven't seen in about six or seven years.

And one girl who, like, I haven't spoken to since we graduated. She was like, you know, I actually found you when your boyfriend talking about BDSM on YouTube when she was like searching for that stuff. I was like, oh, that's so funny. Like there would have been a point in time where like that would have been absolutely mortifying but it was at the point of like oh cool like you're gonna like try some stuff with your boyfriend like did you like the video like it was kind of just like funny and there wasn't really any like it's always a little bit like oh all right but once you get up that initial like okay like

it's not a big deal and I think a lot of that has just come down to us being like really comfortable with what we're doing and and who we are and like similarly So Bromwin is actually coming down to my hometown later in the year. And that was like another jump for me because that will mean that she'll meet my dad. And I'd invited her and then realized that I've never told my dad that I'm bisexual or that Andy and I are in an open relationship because we're just, we're not super close. Like we're on good enough terms. But I had to have that whole conversation with myself of like, all right, how do I want to broach

this subject with my father? And it's also probably going to need my older siblings. are going to need to know and how that's all going to work. But it's definitely at the point where I, you know, we love Bronwyn and we really like her being in our lives. And it felt like the right thing to do to be a bit more honest about this sort of stuff. And yeah, there's so many people like for years, like my mum's known, my friends all know, but there was like that extra step of like I got my dad who like maybe I'm not super

communicative with he can know as well. So it's definitely like there is certainly a level of seriousness. Yeah, because I was going to ask a lot of times with Polly relationships of what we're like wondering, like, what happens when Christmas comes around and birthdays and Thanksgiving, you know, like, does everyone go to the family's house? Does she stay home? How is it set up? I don't know. I always want to know those kind of details. How is it set up with you guys? Well, it's funny because all of my family is interstate. We moved, and Andy and I moved a few years ago. And Andy's not a big Christmas guy. So he's just never felt. the desire to come down for Christmas. He's always welcome. Yeah. And similarly, like, Bronwyn would be welcome to be around for Christmas as well, but she's got her own family and stuff to do. So I guess the way, where we're at the moment, I feel like close enough with Bronwyn that, like, inviting her to meet my family's being quite a big step for me. And I kind of like invited her

before I realized what it would entail and like what that would mean about like letting everyone in my family know. Yeah. But I guess where I'm out is that everyone's always welcome. It's just that everyone's also got their own things going on, so it's just not really happened. Yeah. And now what about living arrangements? You and Andy, Andy and you guys all live together, right? Does she stay over a lot? Do you all sleep in the same bed when she does? I'm assuming, like, how does it set up that way? So we actually, Emmy and I actually live separately. We live across the road from each other. Yeah, we've always found that we, yeah. I like that. That's fun. Yeah. So we spend every day together. We spend hours and hours and hours a day together.

But yeah, at the end of the evening, it means you get to say goodbye. I love that. Yeah, it's good for if you're ever having a little bit of relationship tension or something. You can say, hey, I just want a little bit of space. I'm going to go back to my place and I'll figure this out on my own. And you're like, great. Like, you don't have to be in each other's space all the time. So we've just found that's what works for us.

I hate the people that think, like, everybody has to, like, live in one box. You know, I think that that could, you know, really work for, a certain kind of person, you know, like for me, you know, I've never been married in my whole life, nor did I ever want to be with somebody like for like 50 years, you know, because the thought of like being in the same house, never having a lot, you know, it's like horrified family, you know, like I can't imagine it, you know, but that kind of set up you have is to me like is like heaven, you know, because you do have your alone time, but you could see each other all the time. Like you're right across the street, which I love, right? You see, like you say, you're all together, but you have

your own place. And I think a certain type of personality type, like that really works for. And, you know, and I, I know that some people would be like, oh, what the fuck, you know, but I totally get it. And I think that that's great. Yeah, it just gives you that extra a little bit of space. And so, yeah, we see Bronwyn probably once every two weeks because she lives about an hour or so drive away. And she usually comes to visit us. But we talk to her every day, like multiple times a day. Right. And I'm sure you guys have sleepover sometimes too anyway, right? Sometimes someone doesn't go home. Yeah, sometimes. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, interesting. But not in the same bed, otherwise I won't sleep. Oh my gosh. That's so funny. So I mean, it just sounds like Andy,

because you had a blog and then you started your own YouTube channel. It just sounds like you're the type of person that likes to sort of be out there talking to people. You did mention something in the beginning of like when I'm coaching people. Like, has that always been a thing for you? Like you like to not only like sort of like walk the walk, but also talk the walk. Like you're like to help people and once you started this like sort of lifestyle you like to like you're now coaching people on it and stuff is that a big part of what you do yeah now that's a big part of what i do but no that was not always the case i was very depressed i was very suicidal when i was in my 20s and i yeah i went to prison when i was 19 when yeah yeah i went through a whole sort of transformative journey yeah and then

got to a point where i you know so many people had helped me and been there for me and not judged me and being just very unbelievably, unconditionally loving to me, you know, when maybe I needed it the most. And so at some point, I was just, it felt like a natural calling to help other people. And I think especially with, yeah, with BDSM and Kink and just relationships in general, there's a lot of like confusion out there and people are afraid of it. And there's all these sort of rules and expectations and things you have to do. And it can be very overwhelming. And it was for me too.

I wanted to try BDSM for years before I actually did. just because I was so scared of it. And yeah, I like to be able to just show people that kink in relationships and sex and dating can be beautiful things that add to your life and to your partner's lives. But they don't have to be so scary and formal and perfect. And it's okay if you're not very good at it. You can just slowly improve a little bit at a time. And when did you decide to be so honest about who you are and decide to just like let every girl know that you didn't want to be binogamous? Like you said, you did have all those other relationships before Emmy, like that four-year.

relationship that one your relationship were you always as honest with them and were you always a non-monogamous guy always oh hell no i was not honest i was the exact opposite i i don't know if you know like what pickup artist what that means like pickup art yeah we know that guy yeah okay so i was very into like pick up artists and i don't know if you're familiar with something called the red pill on the internet like the manosphere yeah i've heard of all that stuff yeah and it works that shit works works, right? I mean, you could use it. You could play the fucking game and get people like the mouse on the wheel. It's like a cycle. It's just like psychology 101, but it's fucked up, but it works. That's exactly. Yeah, no, that's that's 100% how I feel about it. I did that for a couple of years.

And I was like, well, I've slept with all of these women, but like none of them get to know the real me. They're just knowing the pretend me. Yeah, it's bullshit. Yeah. And the second that I let that mask drop and just be authentic me, I'm terrified that they're going to leave me because they weren't like the real me. Maybe they're only with me. I would have never been with that guy. Not a girl like Emmy. You know what I mean?

No, you know, you're going to attract a certain person that's like wants to be on that fucking crazy. You know, it's like, it's just so dysfunctional. But it does work and that's what's fucked up about it. Right. And so when did you like, was it after you came out of being suicide? Like, you know, when did you change? Like, because that's a big change from going to, from that guy to the guy that's being

so open and honest. It was actually a really slow process and I think meeting so many women and having so many great like sexual and intimate experiences with them slowly opened up my eyes. But there is one pivotal moment that was sort of just the whole thing came crashing down. Like the whole pickup artist game lying, all of that stuff sort of dropped away. And it was this nice little Chinese woman that I was, Chinese girl that I was dating. She was about like 20 years old, and I had met her by just walking up to her on the street, and I thought she was pretty.

And I said, hey, you're really pretty. Like, can I talk to you? And she was so unbelievably sweet. And we dated for about a year. And that entire time, I was very convinced that she was trying to use me or she was trying to get something from me, because that's what all these sort of pickup artists people had told me. They said, women are always trying to get something from you. And so you need to get something from them before they get something from you.

You know, use them before they use. Yeah. Yeah. And so that was the mindset that I had. And I dated her for a year. And basically the entire time, I was paranoid. And I was trying to figure out how she was using me and what her angle is. Oh, my God.

I was very distrusting. And she was the sweet. Yeah, it just wasn't there. That's why you could never figure it out. Oh, my God. Yeah. She was just like unconditionally sweet and nice. And we just had this casual relationship where we'd see each other about once a week,

maybe twice a week. And she didn't ever want anything from me. She didn't ever need anything from me. She was just happy and loving in herself. And we would share sex. We would share adventures. We went on some road trips together. And the whole time I'm trying to figure out what her angle is and why she's trying

to use me. And eventually it gets towards Christmas time. And she says, hey, I'm going back to China to visit my family for Christmas. And I'm, okay, great. Yeah, fine. So she leaves. And then I get a postcard one day, which I wasn't expecting. and I'm reading this postcard and it's from her.

I see her name on the front of it. And I'm like, okay, this is it. She's going to be like using me now. Yeah, yeah, this is going to be their answer.

Yeah. Yeah, she's going to say, you have to give me money or you have to give me a relationship. You have to give me commitment. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not happy with you and we need to start getting serious, something like that.

But it was just the most like carefree, loving, kind postcard where she basically said, I'm having a great time in China. I just want to let you know that I'm grateful for you. And I really appreciate you being in my life. And I really appreciate this year. And I remember just holding that postcard and standing on the street and just kind of looking around.

And I was like, I'm done. I'm done with this bullshit. I'm done with this like distrust and this lack of honesty. I'm done. Like that's it. The whole house of cards kind of came crashing down. And it had been a long time coming. But I was like, I'm sick of this.

I'm going to just try being honest. And it took me a lot of practice. It took me a long time. I didn't just suddenly become deeply open. And honest and vulnerable. Right. But that was the moment, though. That was the switch that you needed.

That was like that that was though the pivotal moment. But then I always say like it let's not the fucking movies. Like you don't just tomorrow just change. You know what I mean? It's like I quit drinking like 20 something years ago. And I remember the exact moment where it snapped. But it took me years to sort of go through the change of it and sort of get everything out of it and stuff.

You know like that's real life. That's what it is. But that was the moment that you remember and that girl. How amazing was she to come and cheer. life and show you that, you know, and just blow your whole sort of system out. I mean, she just was, you know, she just made you see the truth because really what you were, we're living, you were just living a lie before that. A hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And she didn't want anything from me. She just gave me that beautiful gift. And yeah, I'll always be grateful to her for that.

Yeah. Amazing. I do believe, though, that people come into your life, like, for a reason. Like, you're probably ready to just be done with that fucking part of your life, you know, because. Yeah, I was. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It was really tiring. Yeah, obviously. And I do believe like, you know, those mirrors in our lives are, we bring them for better or for worse. So I think, you know, it was a good sign for you, a sign that you were ready to be done that she showed up in your life, this pure person that didn't want, I think, that was going to take everything that you had learned and fucking blow it up, which is amazing.

And so, Imi, you always knew all this stuff for him in the past. Like, when did, so when do you meet I mean, when you were like, finally, like, sort of through your whole transition and we're just being an honest person at the, by that point. like I mean you didn't get any of that garbage beforehand right? I think actually we've spoken about this before that Andy was probably still at that point where he was coming out of all of that stuff. So it's definitely like remnants of that old side of things and kind of keeping a mask up. Like just a small example.

Like Andy was very much when I met him, this very like stoic alpha mile that was like very serious and yeah, very serious is probably a good way to put it. And I think there were definitely elements of myself that were attracted to. that because, you know, it was that very, like, dominant, masculine facade that was being put up. And over the years, like, especially as obviously there's been a lot of love and closeness and trust and intimacy, like, Andy's actually like a very goofy, silly boy at heart. Like, very, very, very much so. And I'm actually probably like a more serious person.

But that's come out in a very big way, especially like over the last four years or so. Right. And I think that part of, I guess, us being in the relationship has. kind of meant Andy dropping the last little bits of all of that part of himself. Like I think it's been throughout this relationship that like that has like almost fully disappeared or basically has fully disappeared while I've known him. Like we've changed a lot and it's funny actually, we've said a few times like if old and if I was to meet old Andy now as like a potential dating prospect like would be a no.

And similarly if Andy was to meet old in me now would also be a no. Like we've changed so fundamentally over the last, you know, six and a half, almost seven years now that it's, it's, yeah, it's night and day, really. Yeah, but you grew together, which I think is important, and that's why you're still together. You know, I think one of the biggest reasons why people split up as one person sort of evolves to another place in their life and the other person does it. And unfortunately, sometimes that's why people part, right? But you guys have grown and changed together at the same time and you're better for it, right? So that's amazing. So why don't you give a shout out to all your stuff and talk to people, like explain what you do on your YouTube again, what you do like in coaching people in case they want that information, give out all your stuff and then send me links and I'll put links to whatever you're talking about in the description of this episode when I air it.

Sure. So we talk a lot about sex, dating, relationships, love, mental health, happiness, spirituality, just everything, everything to do with living a happy, a happy, life full of abundance and joy. And I would say our channel has a lot of love in it or we try and put a lot of love in it. We know there's a lot of people out there that are hurting and sort of not really happy in themselves and think that they'll never have a happy, beautiful abundance-filled life. And so we try and help people with that in whatever way we can. I don't want to plug my coaching because it's up to people if they want to come to coaching or not. I don't want to influence that decision. But yeah, if anybody is interested in listening to me and Imogen or Imi at times,

and sometimes even Bronwyn, the woman that we talked about, my channel is Andy Wells. You can just come and find us on YouTube or we also have a Spotify podcast and we would love to say hi to you. What's your podcast? Wait, what's your podcast? Yeah, you mentioned the podcast. I'm like, how do I, I know you have a podcast? Is this the same name?

Did you change that name too? Yeah, same name, Andy Wells. Okay, so you changed, because you did have a YouTube. I mean, we were just talking about this before we got on you. Your YouTube was a different name, but you changed it to Andy Wells. And so your podcast is also Andy Wells too. and they could find that on any podcast app, right? Yeah.

Okay, awesome. And so is it all the same content? Like you put your YouTube stuff up on your podcast, or is it different or the same? Like, I mean, I used to do my episodes for the same thing that was on YouTube. Is it the same thing? It's just audio if they want to listen in their car. Or is it different kind of content? You have different stuff on your podcast than on your YouTube.

No, I have different stuff. Oh, that's cool. There's a lot of content out there. Yeah. All right. Awesome. So send me your links. Send me some picks for my podcast.

Patreon if you can. I'm sure you have tons of them. Like I put stuff up on my Patreon. Normally I do anonymous picks, but because you guys are out and proud, I'll just, you know, just send me some picks. But I will put links to your YouTube channel and your podcast in the description. And I love hearing your story. I feel like there's so much more to your story. Like we talked a lot of bigger picture stuff, but what we talked about was like super interesting. I love the whole angle of what you guys, uh, what we talked about here. And people could get more information on, you know, on your YouTube channel or on your podcast. But thanks so much for calling in and telling me your guy's story and having this conversation. It was great. I love it. I like your story. I like your transformation.

I like real life stuff. I like people that live messy lives because to me that's very real. You know, it's like the way life's supposed to be. Yeah. And thank you for everything that you do. I think you're putting a platform out there of non-judgmentalism and open-mindedness. And I think you're bringing a lot more openness and love to the world. So I really appreciate you. Yeah. And that's my, that's a part. That's a part of. my history. You know, I, like, had the most fucked up, crazy past that I'm like, but I look back and I'm always like, I think that's why people tell me stuff. That's why I'm so non-judgmental because I was never a perfect person and I love my past because it made me that person and I'd way

rather be me with my flawed past and be completely non-judgmental than somebody that had like the perfect past and is like judging everybody in their fucking glass house. You know what I'm saying? Like so, it's all good, you know? What were we going to say, Amy? Yeah, absolutely. I was just going to say it's so much more beautiful to love your past and be grateful for where it's gotten to in this moment rather than to feel guilt or shame or regret about all of it. Because it got you to this point. And if you're happy with who you are and where you are, then you could only be at this point because of your past. Yeah, I feel like I'm sure, Andy, you feel the same way.

Like, it's just, it's only made you exactly who you are today. And then you could help people. And isn't that so gratifying? So it's like, I can't look back and regret anything. I'm like, oh, my God, all that torture. I took it for the team. But now I get to like give. back and I love doing it so it was all worth it, right? It's like that's real life to me. When

everybody has a different path, but I think it's great that you embrace yours in a positive way and then turn it around and give back because that to me is what it's all about. And I love you, I'mmy, that you're such a solid person at 19 and so many years later, I can't even imagine who you are now, but people will get more information on your podcast on your YouTube channel and you guys are great. Thanks so much for calling in. This was, I love talking to you guys. Thank you. Bye you guys. Send me the pictures, okay?

You could text them to me or email them to me, okay? Yes. We'll get them sent through today. Okay, awesome. Bye you guys. Bye. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in

paperback and ebook, but you can pre-order the audio book. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gang being girl story.

Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person. And they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person. And I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like Penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really short chapters. Easy read. You could read, you know, one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format, paperback format. And finally, the audiobook is available coming out August 25th. But you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord.

My Discord does not disappoint, okay? There's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay, I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other, and that's what you get to do there. You could post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you can win a lot of money.

It's a super fun place to be. It's a total, strictly anonymous community, and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord. It's private, like I said. All you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook or the paperback. Send it to me at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com. That's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com.

And I will send you the link to Discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in. It's the strictly anonymous podcast. So yeah. Good news. Strictly Anonymous Podcast is looking for people to call into the show. So if you lead an interesting, naughty secret life that you want to talk about while remaining anonymous or not anonymous, if you're out and proud, that's cool too.

Send me an email, Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com. That's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. Or go to my website, Strictly Anonymous Podcast.com, and click. on be on the show. If you have a short confession that you want to get off your back, call my Confessions Hotline. [phone]. That's 347, 4-2-3-579. You could call that number 24-7. I change all the voices on the confessions too. So you remain anonymous. The number, the website, and the email address will all be in the description. If you want to follow the show, follow me at Strict Anonymous on either Instagram or that's at Strict Anonymous.

And if you want to sign up for my Patreon, you're not only supporting my show, but you're going to get all of these episodes early and ad free. You're going to get anonymous picks of all of my guests. Most of the girls send me in anonymous hot picks of themselves. And some of the guys are sending me in anonymous picks as well. You also get access to my private Discord where people are getting super naughty. If you sign up for my Discord, you could post whatever you want and talk to my other listeners. To sign up for my Patreon, just go to patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast.

That's patreon.com slash strictly anonymous podcast. The links and everything else I spoke about are all in the description. Thanks so much for listening.