Stuff Island - Mountain Dew Auditions - Casey Rocket - Stuff Island #151

Episode Date: September 18, 2024

Casey Rocket is a Kill Tony Regular, Cohost of the William Montgomery show and nationally touring stand up comic. Casey has preformed at some of the biggest stages in the world to include Madison Squ...are Garden. Comedians Chris O'Connor and Tommy Pope are making all kinds of Stuff on the paytch. Each week they talk about anything & everything under the sun. Tommy also chefs up some delicious meals. It's a blast, folks - SUB TO PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/StuffIsland - SUB ON ITUNES: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/stuff-island/id1448662475 - SUB ON SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/3QvnmWtMlJ0ZC9uUu1Vvdk - Follow Chris on IG: https://www.instagram.com/achrisoconnor/?hl=en - Follow Tommy on IG: https://www.instagram.com/tommyjpope/?hl=en -Follow Casey on IG: https://www.instagram.com/caseyrocket/?hl=en Head to squarespace.com/STUFFISLAND to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code STUFFISLAND. Upgrade your wardrobe instantly and save 20% off with the code STUFFISLAND at https://www.publicrec.com/STUFFISLAND Try Bluechew for FREE! with Promo Code: STUFFISLAND. Just pay $5 for shipping. Bluechew.com Sponsor Stuff Island: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/stuff-island Sponsor Look at Dish: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/lookatdish Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 you need everybody to clap why can't just one clap okay one two three he didn All right. He did. He did. What's up? Casey Rocket, you fucking wild boy, dude. This is nerve-wracking for me, to be honest with you. Not because of him. This is the first interview I've ever done that I didn't know the guest without my buddy, Chris.
Starting point is 00:00:42 Yes. Because Chris usually knows the guests guests and i meet them for the first time but there's there's a little fucking there's a bumper there i hardly know chris either so yeah well that's a fucking that's a nod to you yeah because i wanted to talk to your weird brain because i didn't get a chance to corner you because you're always on the fucking road yeah i'm always running from those who care about me yeah yeah i got really deep for some reason yeah i'm always i'm not around as much as i used to be so i haven't gotten yet to meet y'all too much well you could get deep on this dude actually would be a nice juxtaposition for how fucking weird you are yeah you know i mean
Starting point is 00:01:16 that is a compliment thank you we're on different planets you and i which is yeah might be a good reason to just you know figure out who you really are, my friend. Yeah, I'd like that. You would? Okay, let's start. Okay, go ahead. Where are you from, Casey? I am from North Georgia. I'm from a place called Ball Ground, Georgia.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Ball Ground, Georgia. Perfect. Yeah. I mean, I would probably guess that. Yeah. Is this like what they describe the town? Pretty rural. Two lights? would i would probably guess that yeah and uh is this like a what it described a town uh pretty rural uh it's by uh well ball ground's real small and it's like a subsection of forsyth county like coming georgia is what it's called c-u-m-m-i-n-g coming georgia um it's spelled out we get free
Starting point is 00:02:01 porn hub it's one of the cities there's's 10 cities in America that have really sexual names, like Ass Kansas. I don't know if that's one of them. Is this true? Yeah, but Coming Georgia gets free Pornhub for life. So Pornhub did the fucking work, and they found out, is there any porn-themed cities? They did the right thing.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Yeah. They did the right thing. They stepped up, and they made a difference when no one else would yes you get like free porno premium or something because they can tell your zip code i guess the entire fucking town yeah the whole town so the whole town's just fat fat heavy how much like what does the premium do like i'm fine with just the thumbnails you know yeah thumbnails do it for me i don't me. What kind of fucking content do you need in the premium access?
Starting point is 00:02:49 You can also bootleg whatever premium video you're trying to watch. You could be like Asa Akira snowboarding and then Google that separately and then find that torrented. So you don't have to get premium. It's always one Google away.
Starting point is 00:03:04 If you want to watch a specific... I don't want to talk about. It's always one Google away. If you want to watch like a specific, I don't really want to talk about it. I want to talk about it. Are you hooked on like certain, are you like a porn star guy? No, not really. No,
Starting point is 00:03:12 I didn't want to talk about this trash man. I fell right into this. I never, I normally don't work blue. I don't work blue, man. Now I'm all red face. No, I no i remember chris like we had this conversation all my friends have like three to five specific porn stars they like are obsessed about i'm like yeah dude just get outside your repertoire there's so many fucking hotties out there
Starting point is 00:03:40 also kira is a big one she's been retired for years but there's like a golden age for you a golden era of your life when you fall in love with certain 100 and then you never deviate even if they stop making videos it's none of my business yeah because you always have your hits yeah mine mine was like late 90s porn so it was like vhs stars that just got into the internet and then they only had like two three years in their prime before like real porn was out there. Just like a click of the button porn. Whereas I had to like look through a mag or jerk off to like old school, like my dad's VHS tapes,
Starting point is 00:04:14 but they were all the same shape. I was obsessed with big fat natty top and like an average bottom. So I carried that with me to like new age. They have the big fat titties and I'll take a flat ass as opposed to... Dude, we're high-end scientific podcasts. And I told you... Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:30 You don't want to do your fucking homework. Let's talk about oars. I've been doing my homework my whole life. I'm ready for this conversation. This is me taking the veil off. This is my coming out part. When did you start doing comedy? Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:04:46 I did it... It started when I was 20 years old so i'm 29 now so i started when i was i went to georgia southern university yeah in uh south georgia you did comedy at college yeah in savannah by savannah down there what was that like uh i was the only comedian it was just me what you threw a one-man show i was the only comedian so they would have a school talent show and because there's no one there's no art scene besides country music no one does anything related to art yeah in south georgia so art but so i would do the talent show and it was twice monthly and you could do three minutes of whatever you wanted so i would go up there and i would have to explain that I was doing comedy at some point. And while I was doing what I was doing, I would have to go.
Starting point is 00:05:31 And of course, I'm doing comedy. And I didn't understand there was no prerequisite for it. And I'm terrible at writing jokes. So they didn't understand what I was. What was the talent? Yeah. Yeah. Which took you 10 years to build.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Now you got like a cult fan base. Sure. Right? Yeah. You don't have to fucking boast yourself. I'll do that for you. Baby. Well, you do.
Starting point is 00:05:50 You gotta, you know, they're just locked onto your thing and you're so unique that it works. It's been nice. I wish I could bust your balls, but I don't know you that well. So I'm just going to overly compliment you for fucking 50 straight minutes. It's working. Yeah, it took a long time to present any of it in a way that would make people laugh. I can't imagine, like, I mean, when I bomb with, like, written stuff, I can't imagine bombing, like, taking a risk on, like, this is something weird, quirky, that I like to fucking try in a living room and then doing that in front of 500 people yeah yeah it's really embarrassing i think well that's why most people
Starting point is 00:06:31 don't do silly things i think i consider myself to be a silly comedian and when it doesn't work it's like soul shattering it's like so embarrassing yeah to be really silly like really vulnerable like like so stupid like like aware that you're being stupid like i'm not i didn't stumble into it i'm not going up there like whoops was i being really goofy up there like i know that i mean goofy yeah and when it doesn't work like oh boy like oh it's so embarrassing yeah do you act act yeah uh i auditioned for a mountain dew commercial exactly i mean i didn't get it though you didn't get it no i didn't get it i think it was too on the nose yeah did they think you dressed up for it they were like all right man we we do the wardrobe here it was a self-tape so i did like some sort of Christmas thing. I made it
Starting point is 00:07:26 Christmas. They didn't ask for that. They didn't ask for it to be Christmas themed, but I took a little initiative like any good actor. I'd never done an audition. So I was like, oh, I don't know. Maybe they want it to be Christmas. This is in May. So it's basically the polar opposite time of the year
Starting point is 00:07:45 Than Christmas Yeah Do you think they even watch it? I don't know I'm not sure they turned it on Like what the fuck is this? Yeah I don't know man Yeah I was dressed like
Starting point is 00:07:52 Kind of like doing like a Santa thing It's stupid now but No you know what? That's great Fuck them You know what? They deserve to be fucked They don't get it
Starting point is 00:08:02 Yeah They don't get it And if they wanted a good Santa They know where to find me. So, and I'm not above crawling back. That's a sick move to like not need money and not really want the job, but just to constantly fuck with like the industry. I'll still do the lines, but I'm going to do them in a costume every fucking time.
Starting point is 00:08:18 I'm going to do them as Santa. Fuck it. I'm doing it as Santa. Well, it was, I'm really bad. I was like an hour late today i've really bad time uh coordination uh so everything that i have that has a deadline throughout my entire life so if i have an audition that's due friday i won't do it till monday yeah yeah till like monday at like 5 30 a.m so it was like it was like 5 30 a.m the audition
Starting point is 00:08:44 was due six hours ago and i was like i guess i'll just do it as santa i don't fucking know like i don't know why santa's the last resort how long you been here dude uh i've been here for three years i got here in july of uh 2021 do you like it yeah uh-huh yeah i like it. I moved here with a good class of comics. Most of the door guys, we all moved here at the same exact time. I don't know why I keep doing that. It's some sort of scale. It's probably the light
Starting point is 00:09:14 dimming and fucking... We haven't controlled the light in this room yet because Josh hasn't gotten curtains, but we're figuring that out. We're going to do better, aren't we? Yeah, we're trying to do better know we're gonna do better aren't we well yeah we're trying to do better every fucking week we lost our co-host yeah what happened everything's up everything's up in fucking shambles well he's in uh philly writing for season two of the tires
Starting point is 00:09:36 okay so we tried the zoom thing at first and it's mayhem there's a lag there's a lag i can't there's no we're trying to figure out like, you know the Kelsey brothers? Yeah. Jason, Kelsey, and Travis. They aren't in the same state. And I don't know what technology they're using where there's no,
Starting point is 00:09:55 it's just a hard cut. It's normal. Wow. ESPN does it. I don't know if it's like a lot of money or we looked into this one app called StreamYard that like was supposedly a nice fix, but there's's like a lot of money. We looked into this one app called StreamYard that was supposedly a nice fix, but there's still like a two-second delay.
Starting point is 00:10:10 And it's like, fuck it. I'll just do it here, and then we're going to go to Philadelphia and then do a bunch in person this next month. Are you going to edit him into this episode in post? That would be sick. Just dressed as Santa the whole fucking time. Oh, that Santa thing's crazy
Starting point is 00:10:26 Yeah Just clearly Just his voiceover Yeah He's off screen Yeah Oh, that Santa shit's nuts Yeah
Starting point is 00:10:34 Man, Mountain Dew sucks Yeah, it's like you're in a soundboard Oh, shit Mountain Dew fucking sucks that's hilarious i love philadelphia i i just went up there for the first uh time in april and i've been back twice since then it's so cool yeah it's fucking great yeah good scene man good scene good energy comedy scene is fantastic oh yeah and people drink so heavily it's so exciting i'm sober but it makes me so excited to see people drinking like that it's so refreshing yeah yeah do you did you did
Starting point is 00:11:10 you have a problem yeah uh-huh so it's like i live vicariously oh yeah uh-huh big time yeah i feel like i just got zapped into your memory yeah uh-huh big time yeah was it that bad let's go for sure yeah i had a really bad we're gonna talk about pussies i'm fucking on you had a terrible drink but i had a really bad butt ice problem um but ice i used to love but uh wow yeah that's what nine and a half but 11 i uh no man it's like six or seven no it's got to be more than that. Really? Yeah. It's malt. I was just so scared of it as a kid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:47 When you're drinking like, you know, fucking bush, bush light, Bud Ice was like, you'd think it was like moonshine. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's like a homeless person beer. No, 100%. I know three dudes that we lost in high school. They're still here, but they're fucking, they drink Bud Ice in a fucking, in a bagged.
Starting point is 00:12:03 It'll take you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's called, yeah yeah the soul snatcher yeah yeah now there's a fucking commercial you probably would get dude the homewrecker yeah so what was the worst oh no i mean i don't know i it was a years long uh battle day in day out oh yeah yeah wake up crack oh yeah yeah. I would have delirium trimmings a lot. So I had to go to detox, I think, four times. Yeah, because I had delirium trimmings.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Yeah. Yeah. So I used to love drinking. So I had to give it up, sadly. I had to choose between drinking and comedy. And I did it at a really... I stopped when I was 21. I would go back to it periodically for like a couple weeks.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Since then. Yeah. Fall off the wagon. But, yeah, it's something I've never done. I've never done stand up under the influence. So, yeah. Really? Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:12:51 That fucking is wild. Yeah. Never once did you like, I'm just, you can't just have one. No. Because you'll go fucking. Yeah. Well, I have to do cocaine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:59 It's one of those things. If I have one Bud Ice, I'm immediately going to do an A-bomb. Gotcha. Yeah, for sure. I've heard there's so many, like it's, it's, it's a lot of people that I know has stopped of those things if i have one bud ice i'm immediately gonna do it yeah for sure i've heard there's so many like it's it's it's a lot of people that i know has stopped doing booze because they'll call their dealer within like the third drink it's just it's not even the booze problem they i mean they eventually will drink too much yeah but it leads to it's like no you
Starting point is 00:13:18 can't have one glass of wine you know there's been so many friends like yeah take that out of his fucking hand he'll be in delaware Delaware, in the back of a pickup truck, not knowing how to find... I'm talking about my brother, by the way. Seriously, he was gone for like a week. My dad didn't know where he was and shit. Yeah, I would go on Benders and wake up and weird like Warren Zevon,
Starting point is 00:13:38 like weird, crazy, wake up in Calcutta, Benders. Yeah, damn. But it sounds a lot more fun than it was but yeah so i don't i don't drink but it philly it's so positive it's a positive drinking everyone's like dancing and having fun and they're all having oh it's so great that's funny there's gonna be a lot of comments of like this guy's no fucking idea what he's talking yeah maybe no but in the comedy scene it's like very rare that you're gonna get someone in the crowd that's like rambunctious yeah unless it's like very rare that you're going to get someone in the crowd that's like rambunctious yeah unless it's like i always found like i opened for a bunch of radio guys like norton and fucking uh-huh voss every time there was a radio guy like so who someone who started in radio like stern
Starting point is 00:14:14 type dudes their crowds were always like starting a fight even the women like after shows were in the you know in the way in the hallway hallway just trying to fist fight people. But the booze bags there, they're just there for comedy. Do you salivate and shit when you see these people getting hard up? Uh-huh. Not really. It was such a long, tumultuous thing for me. I don't really think about it too much.
Starting point is 00:14:43 I only think about it when I'm alone. If I'm alone in a hotel room at midnight, that don't really think about it too much. I only think about it when I'm alone. If I'm alone in a hotel room at midnight, that's when I think about it. You can't stay out because then it's even worse. You're exposed to it even more. I'm doing research myself right now is why I'm asking. Look at me picking my fingers. How bad is it?
Starting point is 00:14:59 You get really used to it. It's something that hardly ever crosses my mind. The only thing that's triggering to me is being alone and then I have nothing going on the next day that's why i would think so if i'm busy i never think because in the back of your head you're like i could fuck this night up and yeah it wouldn't matter nobody would know so then you get like you get like a friend like you want to go play pickleball at 8 a.m yeah you know i mean you got to set plans but you're late to everything anyway so it wouldn wouldn't fucking work. I wouldn't show up.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Bought a silver pickleball every day, dude. It's not even an option. But yeah, I don't know. I found everyone to be so positive and I know that's not the outlook of Philly, but in the comedy scene. I think it is. What I'm saying, I agree with you. But I think there's just such a negative
Starting point is 00:15:42 connotation around Philly that's not true. Same thing with the sports. Everyone thinks thinks we're dickheads it's like now we're we're aggressive and we like sports yeah but we're positive in the other way as long as you're not a cunt yeah we're gonna be nice to you like oakland that's a shit that's a shit fan base they're looking to stab you regardless sure fuck oakland i hate. Yes. Let's get it all. You say too, Josh. I hate Oakland. I hate Oakland. Everybody fucking hates Oakland.
Starting point is 00:16:09 I can't stand some of those punks. Yeah. I actually believe them. Some of those marks. I'll stick up for Boston too. Boston's the same way. I've never been to Boston. I'm going in December, but yeah. It's the same way. I've never been to Boston. I'm going in December, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:27 It's the same thing. They're great. Yeah. Same thing with the sports fans. I would imagine. They were just given too much. They won too much. Sure.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Other than that, they're good people. They had too much too soon. Too much too soon. Tales of all time. All right, well, what else do you want me to ask you? Beauty and the Beast. I stayed up really late last night watching World War II movies. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Which one? I watched Fire on the Plains. It's a Japanese World War II movie. And then I watched Das Boot. Das Boot is fucking nuts. I'd never seen it. I normally watch all the classics. I've seen thousands and thousands of movies. But I'd never seen Das Boot. What's the Russian one clouds. I've seen like thousands and thousands of movies,
Starting point is 00:17:05 but I've never seen Dust Boot. What's the Russian one? Malin told me to watch a Russian one. Come and See? Yes. Yeah. That was unbelievable. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:12 I have the Criterion. It's really nice. It's so nerdy. Yeah, I love it. That's me showing you the TV with my hands. I don't know why that's necessary. I love it. That's really, really haunting.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Is that the most haunting, right? Is it any better than that for someone that loves dark? I don't think so. It's probably one of the darkest ones. The darkest ones that's actually well done and has like artistic merit to it. Yeah. Not like schlock. So it's just all shock value?
Starting point is 00:17:37 Yeah. Yeah. Because there's like Men Behind the Sun, the Japanese one, which is really dark, but it's not that well made. That's about like unit 731 with the experiments on people. Yeah. You know what I'm talking about? Fuck yeah. The Japanese one, which is really dark, but it's not that well-made. That's about like unit 731 with the experiments on people. Yeah. You know what I'm talking about? Fuck yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:48 The Japanese. Yes, dude. They would like conjoin people and freeze their limbs and just like break them off for like no reason. Like do all these weird Joseph Mengele-esque experiments for no reason. Yeah. And that's on film? That's not documentary style.
Starting point is 00:18:03 That's just a recreation. It's a recreation. Yeah. Yeah. But it's not that well made but come and see yeah it's a perspective of like this little polish boy who's being drug around by this band of nazis and he sees all these horrifying things for like two hours yeah yeah it's pretty great dude if you if you got a stomach for it it's really wonderfully done it's free on youtube so It is free? Yeah, the 4K is on YouTube. Das Boot isn't though, right? No,
Starting point is 00:18:27 I had to rent it on Amazon Prime. So you could just sit there through six hours of fucking World War II footage? Oh yeah. Oh dude, we would be good friends. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:18:35 we could be. Yeah. Alright, let's see how much time we got. Yeah, we got time. Let's watch Das Boot. We should just fire up Das Boot
Starting point is 00:18:44 and talk over it, dude. Mystery Science Theater style. Run some commentary on Das Boot. We should just fire up Das Boot and talk over it, dude. Mystery Science Theater style. Run some commentary on Das Boot. Oh, this scene is so haunting. Just laughing the whole way through. Trying to find something funny in every death. Dude, come and see us. That actually...
Starting point is 00:19:02 Anytime I hear someone say, no, this movie will fuck you up, that kind of fucked me up a way. Yeah, just the boy's face. It's really about the loss of innocence, really, isn't it? Yes. Because it's so brilliant to have that scene through the eyes of a child.
Starting point is 00:19:17 It really is innocence personified. It's just so brutal. The way he's taking it in is awful. He just looks like, oh, he's horrified. Yeah, that kid got his audition tapes in on time. For sure. But he will probably be an alcoholic and coke addict
Starting point is 00:19:33 when he gets like 16. I think he never acted again. That little kid. He was haunted. I fucking hope this is true. I don't believe anything you're saying. I think it is. I don't believe anything you're saying, but I... I think it is. His name is...
Starting point is 00:19:47 I don't know his name. I won't even begin to make up a name. But I believe he never acted again. It's spooky as hell. It's pretty heavy stuff. We're all thinking about it. I can't... Most...
Starting point is 00:20:01 Do you watch vinyl videos? Sure. What, like gore? Yeah. most do you watch uh vinyl videos sure well like gore yeah yeah i watch gore no i don't watch it anymore william montgomery watches a lot of gore but so he'll be like we do the podcast together the william montgomery show and he always comes in and he's all pale and he's like i watched three dudes get fucking beheaded last night. Yes, dude. Yes. See, I haven't met him. That's my boy. This is my crew, dude.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Nobody wants to talk about gore on this fucking show. Find your tribe. I used to watch, yeah, a lot of, like, journalist beheadings and whatever. Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah. That's what I said, dude. Pro-war in the Middle East because I'm all caught up. I watched a horrible one, a cartel one.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Happy 9-11, by the way. Happy 9-11 by the way every 9-11 guys to you and yours this holiday season i watched a bad one i watched a bad one where it was the cartel caught this cop and his son and they cut the dad's head off and then the son they skinned him alive it was awful it was awful and then they cut his heart out while he was still alive it was terrible and he was alive the whole time like don't do it that was terrible damn not good i don't think i've seen this it was bad are you how deep are you going on the web i don't normally watch stuff like that maybe once every six months like i'll hear through the grapevine like yo there's this new twisted shit you got to see yeah and just to kind of re-traumatize myself i'll do i really not as much
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Starting point is 00:23:40 Yeah, yeah, he just rolls up, dude. That's fun. That is fun. Yeah. There's one I just saw the other day where there's this guy's, a pole dropped in between when he's like these rolling ton poles. And there was like a gap where he dropped something. He goes down.
Starting point is 00:23:56 He comes back up to get out. And another one came, just popped his head off like a. Really? Yeah. Brought out some of the spine. It's like video game type shit. Because it's not real. You know what I mean? When a video game type shit because it's not real you know when you watch it like that it's not real but the up close ones are like that's sadistic shit that there's some that stay with you for a long time some i just pass along my friends i can't
Starting point is 00:24:16 take it like i'll send it to like kfc and feidelberg sometimes i'll just give them something because they're just nice boys yeah they don't want to see any of that shit but there's something about human nature you can't not click it yeah they know what something's about to hit them i know well you can't look away yeah there's a fuck you fuck you tom there's a level there's levels some of them it's the cell phone footage those are the ones you never fucking oh 100 dude mexican flip phone footage you're're going to get it, boy. You're going to get it. They skimmed that poor kid alive. Oh, it was awful. Why do you watch shit like that, man? I don't even want to talk about trash like that.
Starting point is 00:24:52 I'd rather talk about Asa Akira. Let's do that. Whoa, we have the same thing. Yeah, mine just went out. Yeah. Couldn't have a new nicer guy. Fuck. So cool.
Starting point is 00:25:13 I only do it to entertain myself here and there. Yeah. I used to be better. I used to be every night. Now it's like once a week. With the vaping? No. Oh, the videos.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Oh, okay. The videos and stuff. You're like, go for it. I don't do it. Yeah, when I was a younger man we'd all get stoned and and you show all your friends you're all hung over or something after a party yeah you gotta check this out yeah kind of wakes you up like yeah to put some pep in your step yeah the journalist beheadings are awful because some of the isis videos are like 4k like really good
Starting point is 00:25:40 great production yeah that's a squad i need they'd have they'd have these curtains up dude yeah do you see the kate the kate the the the cage where they just burn them alive yeah and they just ran the and then the head pool cameras they just drowned them underwater whoa i didn't see that one you see the rpg where they just have two dudes and a fucking like a mitsubishi galant maybe and they just put their seat belts on they just shoot rpgs for the fucking oh yeah come on come on guys they have drone footage yeah beautiful sweeping like the shining that overhead opening shot going to the overlook hotel but it's um they just blow someone up in a car yeah instead of that it's like good
Starting point is 00:26:28 cinematography like in another life he could have been like an A24 guy there had to be some kind of fucking director out there
Starting point is 00:26:37 like we gotta try and reach out to these guys this is town yeah they know what the fuck they're doing do they go to school
Starting point is 00:26:42 for that or they just I don't know is there a school for that it's gotta be self-taught? I don't know. Is there a school for that? It's got to be self-taught, right? Is it like an ISIS production company? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:50 I don't know. I've been sober for, this is my third day sober right now. Yeah. That's probably why I have nothing to say other than fucking poor videos because I'm dying inside. That's why I talk about people dying outside. You feel bad? No. I was expecting to shake a little bit.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Yeah. The second day. Because I was drinking a lot. But it was over a long period of time during the day. I would have beer at like 6 and then drink until like 3 in the morning. But I would never hit too hard for one straight hour. Yeah. Yeah, maybe. Everybody's body is different.
Starting point is 00:27:22 I think they say only 20% of alcoholics, which alcoholic is a loose definition, get the shakes. Only 20% of like people who drink every day actually shake. Really? Yeah. It's just all chemical makeup? Just chemical makeup. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Dang. Like everyone doesn't get delirium tremens, like the hallucinations and the shaking and the sweating. It comes in different forms. You hallucinate too? Yeah. Dang. Uh-huh. Mostly. You hallucinate too? Yeah. Damn. Mostly like spiders on my skin type thing.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Like my skin, like there's like bugs. Wow. But. Do you think that was due to the drug use? No. Just straight alcohol? Just alcohol. It would be, well, it like fries your nervous system.
Starting point is 00:28:01 So your body is panicking because it doesn't have the alcohol. So I'm not seeing spiders, but it feels like you're like oh something on your skin and shadows like like out of your vision shadow things yeah but it's delirium tremens it causes hallucinations yeah you just sweat and shake until you do you have to just crack a beer and try and get rid of them because that's dangerous right yeah you have to go to the hospital so yeah i went to detox yeah four times yeah oh but it's pretty easy compared to other things like opiates you only need one good day to really detox from alcohol like if you get barred the fuck out like if they just give you a bunch of xanax for 24 hours you're fine it's gone really yeah you just need to get over that first day so it just represses all the shaking yeah it just calms your nervous system down dang that's all that is your nervous system just need to get over that first day. So it just represses all the shaking? Mm-hmm. Yeah, it just calms your nervous system down.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Dang, that's all that is, is your nervous system just being fucked? Something like that. Yeah. Something like that. See, this shit's fascinating to me. I love talking to people that have been through this. Yeah. But yeah, your body is fighting, because you can die from it.
Starting point is 00:28:57 The only ones you can die from are benzos and alcohol. Yeah. Because it'll give you seizures. Yeah. So you take Xanax. Yeah, and it's like, well, Xanax is like, like i think an anti-seizure thing so yeah damn all right well stops it but you're over the hump man you're good yeah yeah but i'm going back i mean sure i just need to go back at a different pace i figured if i take monday to wednesday off every week i can try and stretch out the monday friday
Starting point is 00:29:24 and then just have fun on Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Definitely. It's football season. It's football season. I'm in your corner. You got a team? Oh, man. Not.
Starting point is 00:29:34 I watch all the NFL games. You college guy? Georgia. Georgia. Well, I keep up with Georgia Southern, but it's not as exciting. They're D1, but they play Western Kentucky and shit shit yeah uh so i watch all the georgia southern games um yeah i'm a georgia i guess i would be a georgia guy yeah but you don't give a fuck no i didn't go to uga so a lot of my friends did um so yeah i mean it's nice that they're doing so
Starting point is 00:29:59 good it's fun to see them be yeah what they should have been a long time ago. See, this is a healthy relationship with sports, and I really admire. I don't hate them. I hate Alabama. Yeah, of course. You're a good person. Everybody does. Who the fuck wouldn't? I'm a good guy.
Starting point is 00:30:13 I got a good smile. I mean well, and people know that. I'm truly, it sounds weird, but I'm just like a fan of the game. I watch all the games. I'll flip back and forth all day. I'll watch all the games. But I don't really have like, besides Georgia Southern, I don't have like a team.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Yeah. Red Zone's my bag. I just throw in Red Zone. Outside of the Eagles. Yeah. I was a big Eagles fan when I was a kid because it was that McNabb, T.O. era. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:42 And I had a Westbrook jersey I would wear to school all the time. I had a David Akers jersey. Let's go. Yeah. I had a McNab game-worn autographed. Oh, wow. Some girl that went to our college, worked in the locker room. I don't know what shit to do for it, but...
Starting point is 00:31:00 You should have seen the fucking stains on that thing. Just Coke and booze. And then my brother stole it. But, yeah. You got siblings? Mm-hmm. How many? It's uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:31:16 It's uncomfortable. You know what's so funny about this? The juxtaposition around, like, me never doing this, just interviewing somebody. How many? I don't know why that made me laugh. I have an older sister, and then I have two half-brothers who are younger. All right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Who are 16 and 18. Yeah yeah you close um i'm pretty close with my sister that my 16 year old brother uh doesn't really talk like that he's like jim what do you call it gen z or whatever yeah so like i text him and he doesn't fucking he won't answer me but he thinks it's cool like he thinks i'm like famous or whatever yeah so that's cool well you kind of are in a way i guess but it's all because kids like that they just care about followers yeah so many followers yeah yeah but uh i don't really know him i don't really know that much about him but i love him his name is seve seve severance severance that's a cool fucking fucking name My dad had a best friend whose last name was Severins
Starting point is 00:32:27 and he passed away when he was younger and so yeah, named him Seve. That's a sick name Seve Rocket, pretty cool So your last name's really Rocket? In some circles It's not my real last name I won't say my real last name.
Starting point is 00:32:46 I'm not going to keep interviewing you, man. You can talk about whatever you want. I don't really actually want to interview you. You know what I looked up last night, which was really interesting, was this thing. You know, have you seen the trailer for Gladiator 2? No. So they're doing a Gladiator, which is so funny to call it Gladiator 2.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Why are they doing this? It just seems so weird. I hate this idea. It should be called something else. It should be called like Elysium, a gladiator story or something. I'm going to tell them, but hey guys,
Starting point is 00:33:19 just dropping you a line. There was something in the, in the commercial for gladiator 2 they show them flooding the coliseum and doing a battle with ships in the coliseum and i was like oh is that real so i was looking up last night it's called now machia and they used to build coliseums and they would flood them with like 600 yards of water 600 600 yards deep, 600 yards long. And then they would make the prisoners who they sentenced to death
Starting point is 00:33:48 fight to the death on boats. And they'd have everyone in the stands. And Julius Caesar was the first one who did it. But yeah, it was called Naumachia. N-A-U-M-A-C-H-I-A. Are they already on the ship? So they have to get on a ship? So they would build the ships and they have to get on a ship so they would build the ships
Starting point is 00:34:05 and they would have it's kind of confused they would have them recreate great victories in roman history while fighting for your life over here yeah yeah because they said it was really performative but also they were literally fighting to the death so it's like oh i don't understand how really how that worked i'm getting out of character if i'm fucking fighting for my life i don't care oh yeah yeah well they said i how that worked. I'm getting out of character if I'm fucking fighting for my life. I don't give a shit. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, they said, I think that's where the thing, the saying comes from. For those about to die, we salute you.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Apparently, it comes from that. Now, Umachi. That song? The ACDC song? Yeah. Yes. It's ACDC. Julius Caesar got it from ACDC.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Who got it from Naumachi.'m sure i'm saying that that's a total gen c thing to do though they hear like a hip-hop song you're like you know that's from like fucking the 50s right that song it's not diddy well did the way i gotta so do you flood 600 by 600 they would build then the boats come in yeah then they would put the boats in but they were huge battles, like 10,000 people. Oh, shit. So they had 10,000 prisoners of war that they had sentenced to death. And there must have been some sort of incentive,
Starting point is 00:35:14 like if you're one of the last 100 we let you live or something. It must have been something like that. Otherwise, why would they even fight? The trailer looks good? Is it something you'd go see in a theater? I don't know, man man I love Ridley Scott I think he's wonderful I love the alien movies I think they're masterpieces
Starting point is 00:35:30 I love Kingdom of Heaven was really great which is another gladiator adjacent thing so maybe I'll see it did Ridley Scott I don't even know if he directed it but what do you and your podcast partner talk about you have a very eclectic, cinematic, artistic mind.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Doesn't he? Did you expect that? The catalog this dude's spewing? You know his directors he was talking about when he walked in here? He called that Einstein? That's Casey Rock, dude. That's Casey Rock. I have a lot of knowledge.
Starting point is 00:36:05 You know this about your brother, dude? He knows everything. You know that I'm brilliant? I read a lot and I watch a lot of movies. But again, I'm sober. So that's all I do. So I watch probably two movies every day for the last 10 or 15 years. So that's what you latched on to.
Starting point is 00:36:22 A lot of sober dudes latch on like fucking that crossfit or some yeah no not me i don't work out so never once like going for a run uh-uh so i think it'll help the fucking skull you know i work out on stage i sweat through my clothes like if i do a headlining set i'll sweat through all my shit So that's like my version of screaming at the stars. Yeah. What if worms could scream? Yeah, it's just me walking What if wieners were haunted? And then I get off stage
Starting point is 00:36:54 and I'm like, that was a good one. Yeah, it was a hot crowd. That was a good one. Big what if wieners were haunted crowd. Was your head always fucked up Or do you think this was due to I don't know
Starting point is 00:37:09 I think it's helped me Because I used to drink a lot of cough medicine And do a lot of weird drugs I think I'm one big trip away From being an invalid Like I'm one big trip away Like no longer funny Still doing the shit in your mind
Starting point is 00:37:24 Not coming out. Yeah, not coming out right. Having a blast though, dude. Having a blast. Kind of a permanent slick sweat. Just eating pudding every day but still having a fucking blast. What happened to that rocket guy?
Starting point is 00:37:36 Fucking took a hit off dirt. Butt ice, man. Yeah, butt ice. He had three butt ices that hit Derek Poston's dab pen. He hasn't been the same ever since. You guys saying something? Yeah, I think I'm right.
Starting point is 00:37:52 I'm teeter-tottering on the edge of madness at all times. It's fascinating to watch. That's why I don't know what to ask you. Yeah. My big thing is that, yeah, I don't know what we talk. I don't remember. We mostly fuck with the guy who is the producer of the podcast named Grant. That's our big thing.
Starting point is 00:38:09 We talk about, you know, like, what if worms could scream? It would be deafening. Little stuff like that. Like haunting. Like cryptozoology, ufology. Yeah, we try to get to that, and then Chris pretends like you know something. And then we just go back and forth
Starting point is 00:38:32 until everyone that listens to the show just says you guys are fucking retarded. And we know. But, you know, I'm in the conspiracy theories now. So, like, I get it. I get how easy it is to fall into that little... Yeah. That well.
Starting point is 00:38:44 I love... You know what I was thinking about the other day? There is to fall into that little... Yeah. That well. I love... You know what I was thinking about the other day? There's no documentaries about the CIA. Yeah. Which is interesting. Of course. Because... Well, I touched the sun, dude.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Kind of weird. Yeah. Yeah, it's Icarus, right? Yeah. These concepts we return to, yes. And... You know, like, people that get too close to anything. Apparently, there's been scientists that figured out cars run on water and shit.
Starting point is 00:39:10 And they come up with the whole system, and then they're dead in a week. Yeah. You can't touch our oil money. Get out of your fucking skull. Bye-bye. Have fun going to heaven, douchebag. Hopefully they have free energy in heaven, douchebag. I know what you're talking about that guy yeah he was in like iowa or something he created like a self water the car that ran on
Starting point is 00:39:33 water yeah there was a couple of them there's another woman that did a similar thing where it was like a steam it wasn't just a straight steam engine you could use regular tap water whoa yeah and she died she got shot in the back of the fucking head. They call it suicide. Well, that Boeing guy just got shot twice, right? Yeah, yeah. He domed himself twice. Classic.
Starting point is 00:39:53 And, uh... Oops, oops. Maybe he just did it really quick. Yeah. Stop! Yeah. Faster than a bullet. He's brilliant. Yeah yeah if they're smart enough
Starting point is 00:40:09 I mean if he truly was a genius he would be able to do something like that and there's a new guy that just came out he put online he figured out how to charge an electric car without plugging it in so he put like the system underneath the bumper it takes the energy from the rotating,
Starting point is 00:40:26 just like any Aqua force or whatever the fuck. Aqua Teen Hunger Force. You see why I don't say too much? I wait for somebody else to jump in. But you know the wheel that converts energy and it stores in a little container and then it pulls from the container. And she posted it and everyone was like, just watch her.
Starting point is 00:40:47 If you have loved ones, tell them to watch you. Go for a trip for a few months. Because someone saw this that's not fucking happy. So she's going to be dead soon. Oh, she's not dead yet. No, she's not dead yet. She's going to have 17,000 stab wounds. Does Bluetooth work?
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Starting point is 00:44:11 Bud Dwyer killed himself and I accidentally showed it to the guest and it was on camera. And Chris was fishing. So he had the password so we couldn't delete it. Our editor was like, yo, I got a note from a fan like you better fucking drop this your whole channel is going to get nuked and it was up for like three hours
Starting point is 00:44:29 to show him bud dwyer but it's on youtube so i don't think it fucking matters channel's gonna get nuked that's fucking hilarious they're gonna call it a drone strike on your bitch ass dude dude that's how he that's how he said it and i was like that's how he said it. And I was like, that's funny as fuck. Save the cast, though. Yeah. Shout out, Nuker. Bud Dwyer. I was trying to make a reference to that the other day.
Starting point is 00:44:56 We were making a, it doesn't matter. But that's such a famous video. Stand back. I don't want anybody to get hurt. Handing out envelopes full of cash. Yeah, dude, the blood flow coming down his nostril. Just a straight waterfall, dude. Oh, good times.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Good times. Yeah, man. He was later found not guilty. He was being persecuted. Our king, Bud Dwyer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Suicide king. Yeah. The original emo. The original sin. Well, they had to. They released all the charges once he was fucking dead, dude. Maybe you're right. I think they dropped him.
Starting point is 00:45:31 They're in the grieving family. They're not even like, well, he's guilty still. They dropped him in absentia. Yeah. It's like the opposite of OJ, if you, you know. Yeah. God damn. I forgot about O oj how do you forget about that's the true king dude i know that's the emo king so cool snuck over there quick stab that was suicide ron goldman and what's your face it was they had a suicide pack
Starting point is 00:46:02 it's a little messier than they wanted. She's a runner, dude. She was always a runner. Here, cut my fucking head off. Then I want you laying in the bushes on the other side of the house.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Here, cut my fucking head off and I'll stab you like 30 times in the chest to the bone. That's hysterical. It'll be very confusing. Well, I think to this day, one of the funniest things I've ever, ever heard was I was scrolling through Facebook Reels maybe six months ago. Because I'll delete Instagram every day. I won't look at it.
Starting point is 00:46:42 And I'll think it's making me smarter because I'm not looking at reels and then I'll look at Facebook reels instead. But it's so fucking worse. But I got recommended this Facebook group that was, uh, Crispin wall was framed. So, which is hilarious. And, um, the, so I click on it and I go to it in the top, the top comment was this guy who said, I have three main theories. One from the child's perspective.
Starting point is 00:47:08 One from the wife. Didn't he kill two kids and a wife? It was just one kid. Just one, okay. Just one. So it's not that bad. It's just one kid. And one of them lived, and he looks just like Chris.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Anyways, but the theory that they posted was that they thought the Undertaker did it. They said, I think it's Undertaker's motorcycle gang, which is hilarious to think of it in the storyline of a wrestling gimmick. So it's like Undertaker shows up and just beats his family to death with a steel chair. It's so funny to me is thinking of it like it appears they were thrown off some sort of hell in a cell. Like the wife was thrown through a table and it'd be hilarious if the motorcycle gang didn't
Starting point is 00:47:54 realize that the WWE was fake. Yeah. And they just like they're fucking with my boy. You're going to fuck with my boy. I'm going to kill your whole family. Yeah, that's the implication is that the Undertaker is truly an American badass out there just killing people
Starting point is 00:48:09 because they wronged him in the wrestling ring. It's insane. It's insane. That's a good movie right there. It is a good movie. Yeah, how far does the gimmick go? Kayfabe, they call it. Kayfabe.
Starting point is 00:48:24 I love wrestling. Do you? Mm-hmm. Do you go to the Raw and shit? I saw a bunch of comics when Mothership went to the Raw. I was out of town when it was here, but I went to AEW in Buffalo. This wrestler named The Butcher got me a front row ticket, and it was so fun. It was so cool.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Do you say this stuff on stage so that guys reach out to you? That wasn't my intention, but I wear a lot of wrestling shirts, and so a lot of them have reached out to me because of that. Yeah, it's smart. It's smart to start playing like that. Yeah, it is smart. And then I've gotten a bunch of free wrestling shit and cool graphic tees. It's good when you get popular and everyone wants to give you stuff.
Starting point is 00:49:00 I like that part of it. Yeah. Yeah. Shane's a big fucking football head, every every green room he goes into it's just whatever professional football team just rolls in you're just like oh just pure meathead royalty mine is i'm not famous like that but mine will be like the guy from grave digger who is the monster tracker yeah but that's faying to half the people that like comedy sure same thing it's a modicum of it, yeah. It's mostly fucking wrestlers and not sports. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:28 It's pretty cool. That wrestling thing was really fun. I think I could have done that in a different life. If I wasn't a stand-up, I think I'd be a wrestler. Yeah. I think I'd be really good at it. No shit. I have a really good body.
Starting point is 00:49:42 You just have to battle. And I'm comfortable in my own skin. Are you spry, like wildly athletic for not doing much? Yeah, for sure. I'm a really good basketball player. So I think I'm really. Really? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:56 I used to play AAU. I used to travel. I hit seven threes in a game one time. Oh, shit. Sorry. And. Oh, sorry. Yeah, man. I could be a good wrestler i might do it my 30th birthday is coming up in january i think i might train i might do a death match for my 30th
Starting point is 00:50:14 birthday i want to do that is that uh when you jump on like barbed wire and shit yeah yeah like tacks and uh what do they call it uh those aluminum, not the aluminum, the light tubes. Smash over your face? Yeah. So wait, this is, yeah. Oh, fuck. What a rush. That's what happens when you get sober, man. You got to do shit like this.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Oh, yeah. All extreme shit. Yeah. Zach Amico does that stuff. Yes, he does. He gets like staples in his forehead. He lets people toss shit at him. That's so sick.
Starting point is 00:50:47 I'm friends with Zachass from Jackass. And yeah, his body's all fucked up from Staples and stuff. Yeah, they're all like falling apart. They're like fucking running backs. Big boys. Same thing. Big boys are crazy. On both sides, they fall apart eventually. They're knees for different reasons, too.
Starting point is 00:51:01 I would love to do that. I think it's so performative. It's like the ultimate form of expression because you can be really funny. Like when you watch it live, the comedy stuff works a lot better, like the gimmicks they do. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:11 It's just a lot funnier. It's not as cheesy. Yeah, because they've taken personalities that aren't as good as like the guys that are athletic, right? I mean, they just take dudes that are goofy as fuck and they make it work. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:22 And it's all set up to who wins and whatnot, right? Yeah. Well, the ones who are good at it there's such a a tier to it like the ones who are good you're like holy shit it's like seamless as far as the wrestling and then uh the mic work you know them doing the choreography spots yeah like the real pros are like damn this is incredible yeah they just control the room. I've never been. I think it would turn me because I've talked a lot of shit. Yeah. You would like it. I think I would.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Yeah, they're fucking freaks. A lot of them like natural, aren't they like football players and shit too? Don't they just like jump into... Yeah, the bigger, the huge guys. Yeah. Because it's a lot of tossing around. But...
Starting point is 00:52:02 Sorry. It's a human body. Sorry. It's a human body. Sorry. But it's pretty cool, man. I have a great deal of respect for it. It's hard. It's very similar to stand-up. It's about crowd control.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Sometimes I know. Sometimes. Whatever. Yeah, whatever, man. Nobody gets us. Do you want to plug your date? Sure. Yeah, let's do that.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Then we'll ask you five more questions. I'm in, when does this come out? Next Wednesday, the 16th. Okay. 17th? I don't know. September 18th i'm in uh sacramento the next day i'm in san francisco the next day i'm in fresno the next day i'm in santa cruz then i'm at skank fest let's go then i'm doing uh 10 cities in florida in october so yeah you driving around in a little sprinter
Starting point is 00:53:02 yeah yeah i'm gonna rent a van let's go bring a buddy gonna bring a friend with me and uh yeah 10 cities in 10 days so that's awesome like fort lauderdale and jacksonville and all the cities and shit what's your favorite city so far philly so i think it's philly genuinely i loved baltimore as well baltimore was in a like this really cool area right by the uh oceans this club called the port which i really really liked yeah the only one i know down there is like mcgoobies yeah i've heard mcgoobers is great yeah give us i've never been there i don't know i've heard it's wonderful yeah it's a nice nice place yeah i was out there in pennsylvania did soul joels did the helium yeah it's great man well congrats man thank you yeah i'm coming all over the place.
Starting point is 00:53:46 That's not funny. I didn't mean to say that. You can end on something else, Dad. We got plenty of time. We got 10 minutes. I wanted to make sure you got something. I'm coming all over the place. I'm on the road.
Starting point is 00:54:03 CaseyRocketComedy.com. And I got a bunch of t-shirts on my website. Whatever. But yeah, man. What, you ever seen Ghost or what's up? Yeah. Ghost was a good one. Yeah, with the kid who died of cancer and the fat black lady.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Ghost, right? Ghost? Yeah. The movie? Yeah. Oh. With Patrick Swayze? Yeah. He's Gonzo.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Parlin Swirlin. Not sure what that is. You ever do an impression of something that doesn't exist yet? That's like an impression of someone who has never existed. It's kind of scary to think, Parlin Swirlin. I've never seen Ghost. That's the one, he comes behind her
Starting point is 00:54:48 and she's melding the thing. She was a hot girl too. Jennifer Grey, right? I don't know, man. You're the fucking wizard. Gorgeous. Jennifer Grey. She killed someone.
Starting point is 00:54:57 What? She was riding in the car with Matthew Broderick for Harris Bueller's Day Out. They were in Dublin and he was driving drunk, allegedly, and they killed two people.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Holy shit, got off, I imagine. Yeah, got off. Yeah. It was right after Ferris Bueller's Ferris Bueller's Day Out in like 1988. Yeah, he's driving on the wrong side of the road
Starting point is 00:55:17 and they fucking killed two people. In a car or were they just walking? In a car, I think. Yeah. So they had a nice car and then they took some lives took some lives pretty cool
Starting point is 00:55:32 man I wish Chris was here he would ask you other questions we'll talk to him soon thanks Case

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