Stuff Island - Nai'm Ali - Stuff Island #222
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Chillin the night, bro.
Yeah, you want to hang a little bit.
Let's hang.
Dude, you're in the right spot for it.
We just watched the USA hockey team beat Sweden.
The girls?
Men's?
Yeah, we're into the semifinals, dude.
Let's go.
Yeah, yeah.
Are you a big hockey guy?
No.
No?
I mean, I like the highlights.
I like the fights.
I don't ever watch full games.
You got ghosts in here, bro?
My lady, my lady got stoned and went and got an orientation to be like a cat lady.
A cat lady, what do you mean a cat lady?
Well, going to the, like, what do you call it?
Like a babysitter?
No, to help the, like, SPCA or whatever.
Oh, you're like volunteers?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I tried to do that with, for dogs.
dogs.
Yeah.
And they told me, nah.
Like, just as soon as you walk in the door.
Yeah, well, yeah, bro, damn there.
They asked me why I went to volunteer?
I'm like, well, my dog just died two days ago.
I need to fucking be around other dogs.
Yeah.
And they were like, that doesn't seem like a healthy, like, reason.
Like, are you okay?
And I'm like, no, I'm not okay.
Well, that feels like the healthiest reason.
That's what I'm saying.
I just wanted to help.
Yeah.
I think I said, I'm not okay.
When they asked me, was like, okay.
Yeah.
I'm like, no, I'm not.
I'm not.
at all. Well, that's a very, like, yeah, that's a qualitative, it's a qualitative question.
It really is. It's not, this isn't like, yeah. Am I okay? No, my dog just died.
My dog just died. What, you would be insane if I was like, yeah, no, I'm fine. I just want to hang out with you.
I've never been better. You can't hire that guy. Yeah, right. No, actually it didn't affect me much.
Yeah, right. Yeah. Like, what am I going to do a mad shooting a dog? Like, what are you scared of? Like, come on, bro. Let me be around your dog. Let me touch your dogs.
I don't think there's anything better to have.
That's the best time.
That's the best version to get to volunteer.
And they told me no.
I'm like, straight up no?
Or were they like fill out this paperwork?
They told me fill out paperwork and they said like,
I should probably think on it and come back in like a week or two
if I still wanted to do it.
But I just didn't like the whole,
that they put me through the whole rigmarole, bro.
The whole nigger my role, bro.
Like you weren't going to be committed enough?
I would have done it.
I just didn't like they told me no initially.
So I never went back.
But that's what I'm saying.
Like, what's their concern?
Like, you're not in it for the long haul?
I guess, maybe.
Isn't that insane?
That's crazy.
I thought the whole thing was you wanted, like, short, you know.
Yeah, you know what?
You're just sending bodies at the problem.
It's like trench warfare.
You know what I mean?
Right.
You can get anyone to work here for a week or two weeks.
You need help.
Yeah.
Like, come on.
But I would have said it was racism, but the lady was black.
But if she was white, I'd have been like, oh, I know what this is.
I don't know.
It could have been racism.
It could have been.
Dude, that's how deep white supremacy is.
That black people doing it down?
Yeah, yeah.
Yo, that's true, yo.
A black person looks at another black person.
Like, I'm not going to hire this fucking...
Yeah, yo, that's true.
So you got that America's next top model documentary, y'all,
and they said that Tyra Banks was racist to all the black people that was on there.
Really?
Mm-hmm.
She didn't want anyone to steal her shine.
That's what I'm thinking.
She's like, yo, it's only a few slots for us.
Damn.
I can't have mine.
It's tough to choose that insecure.
because she really is one of the hottest people of all time.
People of all time.
Yeah.
But you know what?
Those are the most insecure women.
Yeah.
The super hot ones.
I remember I was dating this lady when I was in fucking when I was in high school.
And she was like, why do you like me?
She was like, why do you want to be with me?
I was like, because you bad as fuck.
Like, look at you.
She was like, that's not a good reason.
There's way hotter women than me out there.
And I was like, damn, you're right, bitch.
Are there?
At the time, I didn't see any.
Yeah. I was like 14.
It's got to be, it's got to be pretty tough to be someone that everyone loves for no good reason.
True.
You know what I mean?
Like, you don't have a skill.
Yeah, true.
They're not like, do the thing you do.
They're just like, just be in the room.
Be in the room.
Yo, that's true.
And then every time you try to talk, everyone's like, I wish they wouldn't.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I wish you would just be quiet and let us look at you.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
Be like a statue.
Right.
Because I feel weird, and I don't know if you feel like this,
do you feel weird when you don't know somebody and they're just overly nice?
And they're like, why?
What's up with this guy?
Yeah, it depends on the way they're being nice.
Compliments.
Yeah, and there's a particular style of just like...
Smiling too much.
Come on, bro. Stop smiling at me.
Yeah.
Too much.
Like, I remember, this is burned in my memory.
but I used to work for a guy that was like
just out of his fucking mind, dude.
You know, but really wanted to be like a guy
who would like, was like a very, like,
socially just fluid guy, like just like a guy
who was like a smooth operator.
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, he was the kind of guy who thought
he could eventually be the person
who makes everyone comfortable all the time.
Right, okay, okay.
So, like, open and talkative.
But trying to be that guy
going to make you be awkward.
Yes.
And he,
I never forget this.
We were going over
the Verizano Bridge
into Brooklyn.
Right.
From Staten Island.
And like,
there was a lady,
this was still when they had
like a toll booth lady.
And he was like,
how's your day going?
Yeah.
And she was like,
good.
It was like,
dude,
you're paying a toll.
Yeah,
paid a toll.
Keep it fucking pleasure.
On one of the most
like,
frustrating thoroughfares
in the world.
Right. And she has the worst job in the world.
Yeah. And be like, hey, baby, how you do? It's like, dude.
You're not that guy.
Nobody's this guy. Nobody's this guy. Nobody's this guy.
To this To this Toble's lady, especially. Nobody's that guy.
That's crazy.
Yeah, dude, imagine, like, you're, imagine working in like a mine.
Right, right, right.
And someone being like, what's going on, man?
You're doing all right?
It's like, am I doing all right.
Yeah, bro, look at me.
Look at me. I'm breaking stones.
Carrying them to the surface.
Yeah.
Yeah, see, I don't like that type of shit.
Yeah, that's a problem.
I don't like that type of shit.
I don't like, especially if you're not, if I'm getting a compliment for no reason.
Shit, even like women that hit on me, I'm always like, all right, what the fuck's going
over here?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, forever, I've been like, the first time a woman ever hit on me to this day, I'm always like,
holds up.
It feels like a prank.
Yeah, what the fuck is she doing?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, one of my buddies.
Yeah, who sent you over here.
Something suspicious is going on.
Mm-hmm.
Or like, yeah, you're trying to steal my wallet.
Yeah.
This doesn't happen.
Trying to steal my wallet.
Yeah.
Fuck is she a gypsy?
Yeah.
Trying to steal my wallet.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, like having a girl hit on you is the equivalent of like getting like a your
loan was approved call.
Yeah.
Yeah, it is.
What?
Yeah, what?
Yeah, this is a scam.
You didn't ask for a loan.
No, but we looked at your credit.
It's good.
It's like, I don't know.
I don't think you did.
Yeah, it's don't feel right.
There's something going on here.
I think you did that.
Yeah.
There's no way.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
that type of shit gets me.
So I could imagine being a hot lady.
God's just buying you shit.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
And they really, like, I guess being insecure, though,
being insecure and very competitive to me is better than...
Yes.
Being like, I guess I am pretty sick.
Yeah.
Yeah, you can't believe your own hype.
You can't.
Yeah.
Like being like, what I'm doing is hard.
Yeah.
It's just like you're not, but you're not doing it.
Yeah, you were just born looking like this.
Doors are just opening.
True.
Yeah, I used to date a lady that was,
she would always say how hot she was.
She was hot, but she would say it all the time.
She'd be like, you know how lucky you are to be with somebody like me?
I'd be like, but you're a bitch.
Like, you look great.
But you are a bitch.
Like, this is crazy.
Saying it is crazy.
And saying it takes away from the hotness.
I think it makes your mind start looking for flaws.
Like, nah, all right.
There's something wrong with you.
I'm going to find it.
Yeah.
That's such a crazy thing to say.
She used to say it constantly.
And she would always remind me
of, like, the famous guys that she dated.
Jeez, that's...
Yeah, bro.
Psychological warfare.
Hell yeah, right.
Hell yeah.
But, see, I wasn't...
I don't know.
I'm some type...
I'm weird to the point where, like,
she would tell me that, like, she dated some NBA guy
and I would just call my friends like,
like, yo, you know she dated fucking.
You know she dated Luke Williams, brother?
Now she's with me.
Hell yeah, bro.
I'm weird.
That shit, like a badge of honor, digger?
like what you that's insane hell yeah i'm fucking the lady at the NBA player
i thought you were gonna say like you just just like water off a duck's back you're like
that's that's awesome what hell no bro yeah i was fucking secondhand proud
like what i'm moving up in the world hell yeah if i'm dating this lady and she's the date
billionaire i'm winning you're just catching a loser on her way down that's exactly what it was
she was a fucking loser yeah i used to hang out with lean ar decaprily
Oh, yeah.
Really?
Now you're hanging with me?
Yeah, yeah.
That's crazy.
That's what you should have hit her back with.
It's like, you think you're going to get back up to the top?
You think you have what it takes?
He's still in the NBA.
Yeah, right.
You're in the G league now.
Yeah, right.
Like, bitch, I never was good at basketball.
That's crazy.
Damn, I should have hit her with that.
Yeah.
You think you're going to get back up there?
That would be so funny to hit her with that.
You know, it's crazy?
You might not know how lucky you have it.
Right.
Because the guy you date after me is going to be worse.
She's actually a lesbian now.
If we chart it, the trend line.
She's dating girls now.
She's dating dikes.
You don't even dating real men anymore.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
That's a good move.
Yeah.
Yeah, go to ladies.
Go to ladies that look like guys.
Yeah, yeah.
I wonder if that starts the clock again.
Right.
You know?
Like you go from the hottest chick in the club, and then you just burn through all the way to you.
Yeah.
Then you're fucking lesbian.
And then you go, let's start with the chicks.
Yeah.
It's like back on the market.
That's crazy.
It's like refurbished.
That's fucked up, bro.
Yeah.
And I'm like, I had to Lexus with a new engine.
Yeah, it is.
You can just a whole new class of people.
people there. Now you could date the best of the best lesbians. Yeah. And then work your way through
that whole thing. And just be stunned. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, I've been the, I've been.
Did she date dudes after you? Maybe there's got to be a further floor. She did. She did it. One guy
after me, but he was fresh out of prison. And he like used to beat on her and shit,
yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. That's rock bottom.
Damn, that is rock bottle. You were the luckiest she. I was. Yeah. I was the last normal guy.
Yeah.
We broke up because I was doing open mics.
There you go.
Yeah.
She was like, you're wasting time.
What are you doing that for?
Yeah.
You're an idiot.
Yeah, you're a dumb ass.
I'm going to go get the shit kicked out of me.
Like some dude who's fresh out of prison.
Fresh out of prison.
And he was beating her ass and stalking her.
It's funny.
Then to women after that.
I've had three exes that are lesbians now.
Really?
That's kind of nice.
Yeah.
I think I'm like the gateway.
Yeah.
You know?
Get with me.
Then you're like, all men suck.
And then you go to ladies.
Well, no, it sounds like there's one more level.
You're one more under me.
Yeah.
You know what?
And I think one of them also got their ass whooped before they became a lesbian, too.
I mean, that would do it.
Yeah, true.
That would do it for me.
Yo.
So wait, if a lady started beating your ass, would you be gay?
Yeah.
If every lady you dated, you started beating your ass, you'd just start to beat you.
Beat the fuck out of it?
Depends how bad enough beat down?
I guess I got
I put the bumper rails up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We just need a safe situation.
Yeah, that's a problem.
You know?
You don't want to get your ass whoop.
No.
And it has to be scary for a lady.
It's terrifying.
Like, that's crazy.
Just some guy that's bigger than you,
just punching you in the face
or throwing you on the ground or something?
Dude, a lady.
losing your mind that can't beat your ass
is terrifying. It's the scariest thing in the world. It is scary.
Like, yeah. That's terrifying. It is scary. Imagine if they
actually, if they got a hold of you, would it be like
problem. Bro, if they could, they would beat the fuck out of us. Like ladies?
A hundred percent. If they could, domestic violence would be way worse if they
were stronger than us. Because they fucking lose it. Yeah, no. There'd be all kinds
of like, we'd be doing the same thing. There'd be all kinds of like movements about like
see something, say something.
And like, fucking, yeah, you got to get out there, like,
domestic violence is real.
Yeah, you gotta, you gotta, you have to, you gotta do something.
Yo, that's definitely true.
You can't, you, yeah.
No, yeah, if they could kick our ass, they would.
I've been arguing with ladies and looked them in the face and been like,
oh, you would kill me right now if you could.
Yeah.
Like, if you had the power to, you would choke me to death.
But you don't, lady.
Yeah.
And I'm lucky that you can't do that.
Yeah.
That's crazy as hell.
And then they go.
into the mode where they're trying to get you to jump off sides.
Yeah.
That is the lady's ultimate move.
They start doing a hard count.
That's true, brother.
They start doing the hard count.
They just start insulting your mom, hoping that you fucking smack them.
Your mom's bitch!
Your mom's bitch.
Friends, hey you.
Ready you shot?
Oh, bro.
It took me until my 30s to see.
Yeah, right.
It took me to my 30s to like know what that was.
Like in my 20s, I'd be like, wait,
do my friends really hate me?
Like, I would believe him.
Oh, yeah.
I would believe him.
Then I hit like 30 and I was like, hold up.
This bitch doesn't even know my friends.
My friends hate her.
They tell me to break it with you all the time.
Like, what are you saying?
Yeah.
It's crazy.
They're probably talking about how they hate me now.
I'm with you.
Right, exactly.
Like, you're the reason why we barely hang out.
That's crazy, bro.
So you got a cupcake?
I did.
I got a red velvet cupcake.
What drives a decision like that?
You're riding to a new town and you go.
Well, I wanted coffee, and I couldn't find any.
And it's also Ramadan, so I've been fasting all day.
Really?
Yeah, so I had to wait until the sunset to eat.
To eat a cupcake?
To eat anything.
and I got a cupcake and I got this.
I got a damn evolution juice.
Yeah.
Because I'm with the Starbucks.
No coffee because the machine was broken and I just got this.
I'm a sucker for those things too.
I love these.
It's so good.
They're so good.
And then you run into somebody like,
I guess,
actually knows about nutrition.
Oh, yeah,
these are bad for you.
Yeah, yeah.
It's just a bottle of sugar.
It's a melted popsicle.
Yeah, yep.
That's basically what it is.
They're like, no, it's fruits and veg.
Yeah, bro.
I feel like I'm being healthy when I look at that bottle.
Boy, like you said, when I talked to somebody, they actually know something.
Yeah, and they put it in a skinny bottle and you're like, well, it would...
It was bad for you being a big fat bottle.
Yeah.
It would have facks on a lid or something.
Yeah, yeah.
It would be disgusting and red.
Yeah, exactly.
But it's green.
It's green.
And it's olive green.
It's not like bright green.
No, now, no.
It looks like shredded grass.
Yes.
Yes.
I'm going to get it.
It has to be healthy for you.
Nothing's healthy for you.
Nope.
Doesn't seem like it.
It doesn't.
Even when you think something's healthy, like 10 years later,
like that's actually the worst thing you could ever eat.
Yeah.
Which it feels like it's almost like that feels like a scam.
It's definitely a scam.
I think they want us to be unhappy.
Perpetually unhappy.
Yeah, it's just like trying to sell you some new shit all the time.
True.
Yeah, trying to sell you something.
Yeah.
Yeah, because I don't know.
Because like, shit, you can find commercials from back in the day
where they said, cigarette.
was healthy for you.
Yeah.
What the fuck was that?
And then they're like vapes.
Yeah.
And then like vapes are bad.
Go back to cigarettes.
Yeah, go back to cigs now.
So cigarette is more healthier
than the vape? No way of hell.
Yeah. And they're like, no, they're both bad.
You start dipping.
Yeah, right.
You can fucking mouth cancer.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that's crazy as hell.
They got cures for all types of cancer now.
You see that shit?
No.
Bruh, there's so many cures.
We left the, the United States,
left the World Health Organization and then
like 10 cures for cancer pop back.
Like immediately, bro.
Like, we were holding back the world.
That's crazy.
Like, that's crazy.
They just found it.
Yeah.
I feel like that's been going on for a while, though.
It's always like they've cured it in like a dish, like a petri dish.
Yeah.
But they haven't done it on like human trials yet.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I know one of them is, I think they cure breast cancer with the venom that's inside of a bee.
really
I think that's where all the cures are
and like shit that you wouldn't expect it to be
bee stings and stuff
bee stings fucking
possum shits
anything bro you see what I'm saying
like the shit you would never think
to put inside your body
that's where all the cures are
no I think it's got to be in like
weird gene modification stuff
you think so yeah dude that's the next level
but everyone's scared of course that heals
everything gene modification
yeah we could be six five
with gene modification.
I know.
That's crazy.
I know.
That's going to suck, though.
When everybody's six, five?
Yeah.
And people start making their kids
just like art pieces.
Yeah, that's going to be crazy.
They're just like curate it.
But how far can that go?
Can you be like half lion, half person?
If it goes that far, that's cool as fuck,
if we could do that, I'm down.
I think so.
You might have some weird new cancers.
I don't know.
You get a lion.
Human cancer.
Yeah.
Dude, this was a theory I had the other day that, you know, when AI was first making pictures
and stuff, they couldn't figure the fingers out?
Yes.
I think that was like the trick to get us to all use it.
Really?
I think it made it seem less scary.
Yeah, because it wasn't super realistic.
Yeah.
It was like, everyone download on your phones and try to do it.
I mean, look, the fingers are all wacky.
Right.
It's not that good.
It's not really.
It's not that good.
Yeah.
But everything else is right.
Yeah, but just the fingers.
Just the fingers are fucked up.
Yeah, that makes no sense.
It just felt like...
Yeah, just the fingers?
That had to be...
That was like a little bit of just...
I feel more detail in the face than there is in fingers.
Faces feel like way more complicated.
Like, they would...
The trees would look fine and all kinds of stuff would look good.
And then this guy got six fingers.
Yeah.
Damn.
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well now they figured this shit's just perfect now I know but they did they need to like walk us
into it if it just came out true true true then it would seem more dangerous go like this is bad we
shouldn't go down this road yeah crazy but instead you go like oh let's fuck around with
like it's come on yeah
It's not that good.
Damn,
and we fell for it.
Yeah.
Yeah,
but same thing is going to happen
when they start making like AI robots.
They'll make one that's like dumber than you.
Yeah,
true.
It's like still really good,
but like like makes like stupid mistakes.
Yep.
Just so you're like,
man,
these robots are just never going to get it.
Yeah.
Then everybody starts getting them.
Yeah,
but I'll buy it.
I mean,
it's like really not that big of a deal.
Yeah.
Every once in a while they just like leave the water running.
Then they hit you with an update.
Yeah.
You're fucking.
Yeah.
Your robots fucking is a genius.
This is my house.
Yeah.
Bruh.
And you see the robots that China has?
No.
All that Boston Dynamic shit is way behind the shit China guy.
They got these motherfuckers shooting guns.
And I thought it was an AI video.
And then I looked it up.
Not an AI video.
Really?
Yes.
Are they like running and shooting?
No, they're standing still in shooting.
Walking and shooting was the most I saw.
And they're teaching them how to like do like flips and shit and run.
That's crazy.
It's always crazy that they make that seem so hard.
For them to run?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, we got a bad, this is a bad design.
This is not a good design.
The human body?
Yeah, no.
Yeah.
We had wheels.
We beat a shit.
Yeah, of course.
Way more efficient if we had wheels.
No spine, like an actual thing that can hold your weight up.
Right.
Right.
It was just, I don't understand why they make the robots look like us.
That's stupid.
Well, because they want them to integrate into, like,
human society. You know, you want to be able to
fucking pass your car off to your robot.
Yeah, true. You can't have like a robot with
wheels for legs and you're like, you can't even drive my car. True.
That's true. But what are we
doing? Like, what do we do? I feel like we're making
everything that we were scared of in movies, like on purpose.
Making all the scary shit. Yeah.
Because people want the scary stuff, dude.
We don't, but like rich people.
rich people do.
Rich people are like this fucking, God, I hate having a deal with employees.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
I just wish I had an army of robots.
Right.
That don't sleep.
What the fuck, bro.
And can do the job.
But everybody knows how that movie ends every time.
10 out of 10 times.
I don't know.
It'd be cool.
I don't know.
Maybe it's the wrong move, but be cool if they were just like, dude, you can make robots,
but you got to send them in space.
Yes. Yeah, let them explore.
You got to have them go out and do stuff.
Yeah, they can't be here. Yeah, you can't.
It's, yeah, it's kind of like a person who doesn't let the dog in the house.
Yes, yeah.
It's like, you can have, you can have. We'll get you the robots.
We'll have them, but they can't be on Earth.
They can't be on Earth.
They got to go other places and which also could be a problem.
Yeah, because they just fucking colonize a planet.
Just, yeah, just one day.
They've got the whole universe.
Yeah, bro.
You won't even let us on Earth.
That's crazy.
That makes them an enemy then.
Yeah.
Yeah, damn.
That's fucking crazy, dog.
But I think that's the best idea.
Having them here is dangerous.
You know what we should use them for?
Sports.
We should use them for sports.
Like, I saw this thing that had 10 robots fighting one guy.
Shit was beautiful.
Yeah, but it's like, I don't know.
Sports aren't cool if it's robots.
If you include people in it.
If you got people and robots,
you know, I don't want to watch all robots playing
against each other in sports. That's bullshit.
But I don't know see people going against robots
in sports. That's the shit. They'll get
dominated. It's like
eventually, but not right now. Right now,
imagine a football team
full of robots or there's a football team full of people.
They can't keep up with us.
They cannot get with us now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We can juke.
That would be such a funny
thing. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You just set up
a league and win the Super Bowl every year.
Yeah, bro.
And then four years.
years in just started losing and lose forever.
Forever.
Yeah.
From then on,
it's all losses.
Dude,
I don't know.
Because it's like,
I don't,
yeah,
I don't think I want to watch robots play sports.
I don't watch a fight.
It's like watching a dog catch a frisbee.
Like,
I don't want to watch a person catch a frisbee.
True.
I'll watch a dog catch a frisbee.
I love watching a dog catch a friday.
Watching an animal do something is interesting.
Yes.
You know they're like limited.
Yes.
Yes.
Very true.
Yeah,
because a robot might not.
At some point, the robot will never drop the football.
Yeah.
At some point, he's going to make the perfect play every fucking time.
Every single time.
Yeah.
Balls anywhere near them.
True.
That's the fun part about having kids.
Are you going to have kids one day?
I'd like to.
For having kids is like making your own like video game character.
Yeah.
I heard someone say that where it's like they were like, don't be afraid of AIs because
it's like they're no different than kids.
Yeah.
Kids are AIs.
True.
But no, but AI's learned so much faster than kids.
That is a problem.
That's a huge problem.
I was talking to my son earlier, and I asked him, he didn't,
my son's 16 years old.
And I said something about blue and yellow, making green.
He was like, I didn't know that.
And I'm like, bro, you probably learned this in like first grade.
He was like, dad, I wasn't conscious until I was like 10 or 11.
And I'm like, bro, what?
No way.
Yeah, I'm like, what?
Well, you got to sit him down and start going through memories.
Bro, he doesn't remember shit.
We went the Disney world.
He was 10 years old?
Yes.
He doesn't remember going to Disney World.
He remembers like seeing the pictures and shit.
He doesn't remember anything from over there.
This sounds like an AI trick.
He wants to go back to Disney World.
I don't even remember that.
I bet we didn't go.
Yeah.
You're lying, Dad.
We never been there.
He's probably trying to trick me to taking them back.
Never.
That show almost ruined me.
She's so expensive.
Never go to Disney World.
But yeah, bro.
He said he was a conscious.
he was 10. I'm like, bro, I was conscious at two.
I have, I can remember
shit from when I was two years old.
Yeah, pretty close. Definitely,
definitely, like, nursery school.
Yes, for sure, nursing school.
Like three, four. Yeah.
Yeah, I remember that for sure.
Ten? Ten, yeah. Isn't that like
fourth grade? Yes.
But my son was a dippy-ass ten-year-old.
Like, he didn't, like, I can kind of
see that he wasn't conscious yet.
He was dippy as hell.
What do you mean?
He just didn't know shit.
He would try to put shit in the microwave
and it was on metal and shit like that.
Like, just dumbass shit, bro.
Just stupid shit that he knew already.
I told him 10 times not to do.
He would just keep doing it over and over and over.
Yeah, this is a trick.
This is exactly what I was talking about with the robots.
This is the kind of shit they're going to do
where you're going to be like, oh, God.
They're never going to get it.
Yeah.
And then he is going to, and now he's a smart kid.
Didn't you say he's a smart kid?
Yeah, yeah.
He's a great athlete.
Football?
Basketball.
He jumped on somebody yesterday.
Really?
What, bro?
Went right up.
He cuffed the ball like this and went up with it and cocked it back.
Bam.
Hell yeah, yo.
Then he's like, dad, I don't, can I not go to school tomorrow?
I'm like, why?
He was like, I dunked on somebody.
The fuck they got to do it, not going to school tomorrow.
The fuck are you talking about?
Although it would stump me.
Yeah.
Yeah, if I got hit with it in real time.
Yeah.
I mean, we're different people.
So.
It would stop you.
No,
if whatever came out of me dunked.
Yeah,
and they were like,
can I not go to school tomorrow?
First of all,
I would never even conceive of the question.
It's not like one of those,
it's not one of those things you prepare for.
Is that?
All right.
Everyone knows what happens after the first dunk.
They take a week off from school.
You take a week off.
You know?
You just be pumped.
Yeah.
And then you get.
hit with that and you go like, I don't know, what do you do for a dunk? What do you do for a dunk?
My bloodline has never had to answer this question. He's right the first friend ever to dunk in my head.
What? I'm like, what the fuck? It did fuck me up. I'm like, damn, shit, I let them stay home.
But then I was like, all right, no, I reverse psychology time. I'm like, you really want to stay home?
I'm like, all the girls are going to be so hype that you just dunked on somebody in a game.
He was like, yo, you're right. You're like, I'm going to school. Yeah, go basking the glory.
Yeah
Were they?
Yes, they were
I picked them up from school
And he was like
He was like dad
Everybody's talking about this shit
I'm like yeah
He's like my girlfriend
He fell off
Yeah,
I didn't even get to second period
Right
It's crazy
His girlfriend was pissed
He said she was pissed
Because girls kept walking up
Talking to him
Want to take pictures
With him and shit
Really
Hell yeah
Damn
That's so funny
Yeah
I've never had
that feeling before. I was okay at football.
But I never was like the guy.
So I never had to feel like coming back to school.
I had the, actually I had the opposite feeling. One time I got a helicopter, we played
on the high school. I got hit low and hit high and spun around.
And I came to school and they were like, yo, you got fucked up yesterday.
I'm like, damn. Yeah, girlfriend would be pissed about that too.
Hell yeah. Other girls coming up and being like, okay? Yeah. He's fine.
Fuck out of here.
He's fine. Yeah.
Yeah. It's a concoct. Yeah. It's a concoct.
Cushing, but it's okay.
Yeah, bro.
You got a helicopter now?
I got helicopter.
Bad.
And I thought, and no, nobody even saw it in the game.
Put it like this.
It was on the opposite sideline.
So, like, they saw me flint, like, spin in the air.
But nobody saw, like, how it happened.
And we were watching tape.
So we used to watch tape every Monday.
And the coach, he'd be around that shit about 10 times.
Niggas just, hey, hey.
And I ain't, look at this.
What happened right here?
tried to hurtle somebody, huh?
Were you just on a gurney
on the edge of the locker room?
Watching the tape.
Hell, you're like, what the fuck?
Fuck.
Was anything wrong with you?
Or they just?
No, I was fine.
I pop right up.
My hair, the worst part was my head hitting the ground.
Yeah, yeah.
That was the worst part of it.
Yeah, yeah.
But, like, them hit me didn't hurt because I like,
I tried to hurdle somebody.
Isn't that crazy when you're young?
Oh, bro, I'll be in the hospital.
They happen now.
Yeah.
Yeah, dude.
You're indestructible.
Yes, like literally.
You hit pop right back up.
All right,
what's the next play?
Yeah,
like it's like,
it's like when penguins dive off
and like they hit rocks and shit.
Yeah.
They're just like,
they just keep swimming.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like it's like you're so like
tightly wound and solid that it's like
if I get hit down here,
I just spin.
Yeah,
I just spin.
Right.
If I get hit down here now,
this collapses.
For sure.
Crumple zone
And my upper body stays stationary
Yes
Yeah
Yeah bro
That's definitely true
Yeah now I'm breaking everything
If that happens
Yeah
I felt I was cutting the grass
This is the
This is what I first realized
It was like oh
I'm like what the fuck
I was cutting the grass in the summer
And I'm cutting the grass
And we had a
There's a bush that I had cut down
But the stump was like
Still like sticking out of the ground
So I didn't cut it low enough
And I tripped over that shit bro
and I tripped and tried to catch myself,
but somehow I, like, turned around.
And instead of me falling forward, I fell backwards.
Boom.
I fell on my back.
And my lower back was all fire.
I'm like, oh, fuck, pop, pop, pop.
Yeah.
Yep, yep, my fuck.
I couldn't breathe.
I knocked all the wind out of me.
I'm like, oh, fuck.
And I knew I was old because my son and my daughter
but was like, Dad, you okay?
You okay?
I'm like, oh.
Dude.
What the fuck?
I got a dad.
Are you okay?
Like, think I'm 38.
I'm like, what the fuck?
How do I get a dad?
Are you okay?
ready. Yeah, I'm fine. I'm okay. No, that's it. That's, that's, that's the first,
the first sign that things are like going bad when you fall and you go to catch yourself. Yeah.
And again, when you're young, it's just like, do. Yes. Yep. And now it's like, it's like a shock wave of,
like you feel your, your hand hit your wrist. Yes. And your, yeah, it just goes all the way up.
Your elbow. Like, you just feel like the gaps in between all the bones.
Fucking sucks. Yeah, bro. That's just hard.
horrible. That shit is horrible.
Getting old is
like, the mental
shit is cool because like
now I know shit. Yeah.
Like I was so unsure of everything when I was younger.
Yeah. But like just the physical
shit though. I used to go to the gym and spar like three days a week.
If I spar one day in a month, I'm fucked up.
Yeah, yeah. Dude.
It's crazy. It is the brutal thing where you're just like
it's a classic saying right the youth
it was wasted on the young
yeah yeah but it is that thing
where you're like because you're physically
in good condition
you try to use it all the time
true instead of just being like
how do I make this easier
yeah yeah which is what your brain
like shifts into it does
which is like how do I do this
with the least amount of stress
on my body and it's like if you played sports
with that mentality you'd be fucking
like Kobe Bryant
Yeah, for sure.
I'm just like, why don't I just think my way through this problem?
Right, yeah.
Instead of trying to run as hard as I can at it.
Yeah, bro.
That's my favorite thing.
I used to love like crackback blocks.
I used to love fucking, I played safety.
I used to love like catching a receiver why they weren't looking and just
throwing my body at them as hard as I could.
Dude, you treat it the way you do like you do drinking.
Yes, yeah.
Where you're like, as long as you're not blacked out, you're like, I'm sober.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
He's the thing when you throw a crackback block
or really just like lay into someone
and you're like, well, if I didn't get knocked out
then I'm fine.
Then my head is clear.
Hell yeah.
Yeah.
You had no idea.
No idea.
Probably worse damage is being done.
Oh, hell yeah.
Bro, you ever get a stinger?
And you're like, ah, fuck.
Yeah, coach, like, it's cool.
It's just a stinger.
You like, ah, but then you grow up and you're like,
wait, that was nerve damage.
Like, wait, I fucked my spine up when I did that.
Like, that's crazy.
I couldn't feel my hand for a second.
No, I don't come back.
Yeah, you're fine.
Oh, nice.
Like, God damn.
Dude.
I had a dream that I went back to high school
when I was playing football.
Yeah.
Like at this age now and I was dominating.
Really?
You got in the game?
Yes.
What?
In the game?
I was doing everything.
Damn, I never get to get in the game.
Oh, no?
Yeah, whenever I have the dream that I'm back in college playing sports,
I'm, I like, I'm constantly just like walking through like the physical.
Right, right, right.
And I'm like getting the gear and like practices soon.
And I keep going like, I don't think I have eligibility.
Yeah, I don't think.
Yeah.
And there's always someone like, no, no, you do.
Like you just, you have an extra year.
Yeah.
Yeah, you didn't like whatever.
I don't know, whatever excuse there is.
Yeah.
Someone's going to find out about this.
Yeah, I'm not supposed to be doing this.
Yeah, I don't know.
I did have that thought like, you know, I shouldn't be allowed to play now.
Yeah.
And then I'm always like waiting on the sidelines for like everyone to get
out to the practice field and it's for it to start and then I wake up.
Yeah.
I never get to like actually be running and gunning.
You're going to wake up happy as that.
I don't know.
That's probably like, that's like, that's probably what heaven is.
You know, right.
Just on my death.
Yeah.
Oh, right.
Just running out on the field.
Yeah, that's when you get in the game when you die.
2005.
Yeah.
Drexel dragons.
Yo, damn, bro.
I had a crazy dream because I'm not smoking and shit no more.
I had,
I was fucking flying.
Yeah.
But the way I fly,
it was like,
remember on Iron Man when he had to like shoot the shit out of his hands?
That's nice.
And I was like,
but I couldn't like keep my balance.
I was like kind of like dipping around and shit.
And my mom was yelling at me to come down.
Yeah.
Stop,
that's dangerous.
That does.
Get down from there.
Yeah,
yeah, yeah.
That feels like a very specific type of brain that has that type of
a flying dream.
Yeah?
Yeah.
Like the Iron Man?
Because it's not just the happy go lucky like no.
No, it wasn't there.
It's a method to this.
It's hard.
It was hard as hell.
It's hard and I'm not supposed to be doing it.
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Yep.
I'm getting yelled at about doing that.
My girl was yelling at me. Yeah.
I was walking up to my friends like, yo, watch this.
I can't fucking fly, bro.
They're like, get the fuck out of here.
Yeah, and you're hoping it works.
And then I would do it.
Yo, and it didn't work like the first three times,
and I'm like, no, watch.
I was just looking dumb trying to do it.
I'm like, yo, it's going to work.
And then it finally did work.
And then my friends were making fun.
They're like, you know, you're not even going at a high.
I like six inches off the ground.
I'm like, but I'm flying.
I'm like, I'm fucking flying though.
Like, what y'all hate you for?
I'm fucking flying.
Can you do it?
Can you go six years off the ground?
It's like such a metaphor for a comedy career.
Right.
You know what I am?
I'm flying.
Yeah, true.
Yeah, but not really though.
Not really.
No, I am.
Like, look at me.
Yeah, though.
Every time you get something new in comedy,
it feels like you accomplish something until you get used to it.
And then you're like, oh, this is not.
nothing. Yeah, it's got to be, that's got to be a general life thing, though. Yeah. Right?
Yeah. I guess people become like a CEO of a company. At some point you're like, I'm just used to this money and used to barely doing a job and getting paid a bunch of money for it.
I want to think about it with sports, right? It's like making the NBA or the NFL or the NHL, whatever's got to be like a huge dream.
And then you get there and you have probably like four or five months of like, man, this is like,
crazy that I'm doing this. Right. Yeah. And then it turns into like everyone being like,
this guy might suck in the NHL. This guy might not have it. Yeah, yeah, right. And then you start
then like it's got to feel on some level the NHL has to also feel or the NFL has to also feel like
the same as peewee football. Yeah. Where you're like, I'm just not quite good enough for this and
I need to get better. Yeah. And there's like weird politics involved and it's hard. Yeah.
And that's the worst thing about sports is the politics.
Yeah.
Like you could be better than somebody.
I've been on teams where I was better than somebody,
but they were like the coach's son or they just built.
Or they just been on the team longer than me.
And this guy's playing.
And then at some point, you know, you get your opportunity.
But I've been that guy just looking at somebody like, he's trash.
Why the fuck is he like?
The fuck are we doing.
It's also funny to think back at those coaches that you were like,
that fucking piece of shit, he's trying to fuck me.
Yeah, right.
He's fucking over my life.
He was like 27 years old.
Yeah, yeah, and he's got a kid on a team.
And he's like, I'm just trying to have a nice relationship with my son.
I can't not play him.
Yeah, right.
I can't start you over my son.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, if you're mad at me, that's, I'm sorry about that.
Right.
Like, I have to drive home with this kid.
Yeah.
I got to talk to his mom.
Yeah.
You think I'm going to.
Damn.
That's true.
You think I'm going to get home from work.
Yeah.
Come do this.
just be horrible to my child.
Right. Yeah.
And then go home, go to sleep, and go back to work.
It's like, there's no fucking way.
Yeah, brother.
Yeah, true.
There's no way that's happening.
And we didn't look at it like that at all.
No, well, you didn't know.
You figure everyone's like,
everyone's like, dude, everyone knows how important
this game is.
Yeah, right, right, right.
Cause I just give a fuck about winning.
Yeah, yeah.
That's when my son have a good time.
That's crazy.
And I've been that dad before.
It's so funny.
To be fucking eight-year-old.
eight years old, just being like, where do they find
these refs?
These guys,
this guy's an idiot.
He doesn't know what he's doing.
Yeah, no shit.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
I used to yell at refs so bad when I was like eight years old, bro.
Like, what?
That was it a past interference?
Yeah.
This guy, do you even see it?
Yeah.
I remember that you always was a ref who had like he was just,
I mean, like cartoonish, like glasses as thick as just
fucking submarine with us and just
double knee braces
to barely get it up and down
like the field.
Yeah.
Was constantly fucking up.
It was just like,
I remember being furious and couldn't understand it.
Yeah.
No idea that that guy was getting paid $20.
20, bro.
Yeah.
You know how bad he needs that 20 also?
Yeah.
To do the hardest job on her.
Yes.
Like running up and down the fucking field.
Yeah.
Come on, yo.
Which is stand around furious parents.
Right.
And call.
I mean, it's like...
Yeah, that's a crazy job.
Calling fouls in youth basketball.
Brough.
Has to be like, I mean, what do we?
Because you got to pick and choose.
There's no way to call it every time you see it.
It's mud wrestling.
Yes, it is.
No, you got to let them play.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, we got to have a game.
I can't call this tight.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
Brough.
I told my son to stop playing defense.
I'm like, real, fuck defense, bro.
Fuck it.
Fuck it.
You're the worst person on it.
You get two, three files in the first quarter?
Fuck defense, bro.
Fuck it.
Just stay in front of him.
The moment he gets an inch past you,
let him fucking have it,
bro.
And then the only thing's going to happen
is one of your teammates
going to step up.
They're going to file them.
Now, they're in foul trouble.
Fuck it, bro.
It's a real team game.
You got to at least frame it in a way
that's like a strategy.
You got to be like, look, dude,
that's not our game.
We're not an in-the-true.
trenches grinded out team we're running gun making a shootout yeah that's right true for shot with
them that's just our style of play that's our style yeah i didn't bullshit him like that style of
like what fuck defense fucking drew and uh rob cruise came to my son's aAU coach had quit like mid-season
sidebar he quit because they were at practice and they only had like four players to scrimmage
the starters so he jumped in on like the scout team
for the basketball team.
Okay.
And he was in the paint.
And my son's 12 at the time.
And my son went to lay the ball up.
And he jumped with my son and tried to block it.
And my son just kind of went through him and laid it up.
And he fell and broke his fucking arm.
And then he quit coaching his team.
So then I started coaching the team.
The coach broke his arm?
Yes.
Trying to block my son's layup.
And then my son just went right through him.
And he fell trying to catch himself.
Yes, bro.
He tried to catch himself and just snapped his whole shit.
Like at the elbow, bro.
Just snapped that shit the wrong way.
Yes
Hell yeah
Hell yeah
Dude
Yeah you got to quit
You got to quit
You got to quit
You can't come back
You can't come back from that
No
A 12 year old may you break your arm
You can't come back from that
Fuck no
That's not survivable
It's maintaining 12 year old's respect
Is so delicate
It's almost impossible
You need to be on your
guard the entire time.
Yes.
You cannot get posterized.
No.
And then shatter your elbow.
Yeah.
And come back in a sling.
Yeah, right.
It's impossible.
You can't do it.
And be like, this is a defense we're going to run.
It's like, is it?
Is that what we're doing?
That's what we're doing?
I think that's not what we're doing.
You do seem to have a pretty good handle on this game, judging by the fact that you went
face to face with a 12-year-old.
Yeah.
He got sent to the hospital.
You're a short, fat black guy.
So I'm sure it looked crazy and falling like that.
Oh, my God.
But why are you jumping?
Why are you actually playing real defense?
What are you doing?
You're 50 years old, bro.
I don't know.
Maybe he just, yeah.
He got caught up in the moment.
Yeah.
Got to caught up in the excitement of the game.
Yeah.
That's, yeah, you hope he's not like, he wasn't like broken down and trying to.
Yeah, bro.
I hope he was just kind of like end of practice, having a little fun.
Yeah.
He's just going to like kind of fake block a thing.
Right.
You just catch a bad landing?
Yeah.
Because,
yeah.
My son was so proud.
I picked him up from practice and he was like,
Dad, guess what?
Coach is dead.
I'm like,
I killed Coach.
Yeah.
He was like, I laid him up.
He laid Coach up,
but he broke his arm.
I'm like, he didn't break his arm.
He's like, yes, he did.
He looked, the ambulance right over there.
I looked, ambulance was right there.
And he was in the back hole with his shit like,
like, oh, shit,
this thing, it really broke his arm.
Damn.
What was it like when they turned to you to become the coach?
So I know how to get the respect to 12-year-olds.
That's something I think I'm the master of.
It's not a good thing to say right now in this climate.
No, but as the father of the son that broke the coach's elbow,
you almost have like an obligation.
Yeah.
It is like the succession plan.
Yeah, it had to be me, yo.
I mean, and all the other dads said, no.
Bro, we were like three and 11.
So all the other parents were like, I mean, we kind of end the season.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm like, no, we're not in the season.
We got three more tournaments.
I'll coach.
Yeah, no one wanted to take on that responsibility.
Nobody wanted to do it.
And it was me and what was the other kids that, Darrell, me and Darrell is my assistant coach.
We fucking held it down.
We won our first three games as me being the coach.
That's good.
Then we lost the rest of them.
That's all right.
Yeah, yeah.
They need the morale change.
Yeah.
Yeah, they got the boost.
And then the same old team showed up.
Yeah, that's exactly what it was.
Then they realized like, oh, yeah, we're a shitty.
that's right oh yeah we're not good that's nice though that run of three games bro i thought yo honestly
and this was like around the time i probably was what maybe my son's 16 now that's four years ago
so i was like three years into comedy and in my head i was like i might be a comedian slash
basketball coach like that might be my thing that's a wild slash that is a wild slash that's a wild
slash that typically doesn't work out.
No, I don't even know how,
I don't even think it's possible.
You can't be both things.
I've never seen it done.
No, I've never seen it done.
But I thought that was about to be my future.
I'm like, we just won three games in a row.
And honestly, bro, I don't know anything about it.
We didn't have any plays.
I don't know how to, I don't know plays.
I was all energy, bro.
Just all energy.
And cursing.
I was like, oh, y'all got to curse more.
Like kids, you got to curse more.
I'm like, say whatever you got to say to get these kids.
What are the parents say to that?
They hated that.
But, yeah.
We were winning three.
We won games.
You can't argue with a winning record.
You see what I'm saying?
Then you start to go on that skid, and they're like, you gotta stop.
Yeah, it's like, it's inappropriate.
You can't tell my son to call that kid a pussy.
That's not cool.
I was like, all right.
This was immature of me to think that this is why we were winning games.
But at first it was working, bro.
It worked as if we started playing like hood teams.
It worked because a lot of white teams.
Oh, yeah.
For sure.
Yeah, that'll work.
I also think it's just so funny.
just other parents driving home after the game when you guys are winning just going like
it's fully that like Alonzo morning yeah yeah right it's like yeah yeah right it is it's
it's rocket fuel and it just burn through it yeah burn right through it yeah
Burned right through it.
Once someone got the scouting report, it was just like, look, these guys would come out.
They're going to be swearing up and down the court.
That was the whole scouting report.
Don't buy into it.
Don't let it rally.
Those guys are all tall.
It's the same guys we faced five weeks ago.
I promise.
They're going to be swearing up and down the court.
Damn.
But actually, we were the same team, but worse because then we had zero plays.
All we had was.
curses.
That's all we have, bro.
Damn, that's crazy.
That's what the Scout report.
It's the worst coach team imaginable.
Just no defense, all just ISO offense.
Iso offense.
Non-stop swearing.
Not-stop cursing.
I was like, yo, if you can spot who their parents are, talk shit about their parents.
Like, your mom ugly and shit.
Like, do that.
I'm like, figure out who's rooting for who and lock in.
Like, bro, I had them on.
I had something for a short while.
Wow.
Yeah, it's the mental game.
They'll take that with him.
Yeah.
My son used it now.
Yeah.
I had something to slow down, though, because my son goes to private school and he's like,
for one of those games, him and this kid were going at it.
And this kid was, like, nationally, right?
And it worked.
And my son told me the kid, he was like, yo, he said, I got my niggas outside.
They're going to smoke you after this game, nigga.
Like, he told him they were going to kill him after the game.
Yeah, he was rattled.
This kid had like eight points.
He's, like, ranked number seven or something in the nation.
And the kid had like eight points.
My son locked him to fuck up with that.
Holy shit.
Hell yeah, bro.
That's got to be against the rules.
Yeah, yeah, he got in trouble for that.
Yeah, yeah.
I think that's a crime.
Right.
That probably is a crime.
Threatening to kill somebody?
Well, he said that his friends was going to kill.
He didn't say that he would kill him.
Yeah, but it's like you can't go like I've hired someone to kill you.
Yeah, true.
Can you?
What if you're a liar?
Yeah, he was lying.
I don't know.
I still.
I don't think you can do that.
Well, after the game, the kid told the coach,
and then the coaches approached me like,
yo, so you know your son said.
And I was like, that's just sports talk.
They're like, no, this is way beyond.
This is way beyond sports talk.
That's not sports talk.
No, you cannot be threatening to kill players.
Yeah.
Did you even acknowledge that it happened?
Or did you just blow right?
You got to go like, look, just because your guy had a bad game.
I tried that at first.
Slinging accusations about my son.
I tried that at first.
Like my son would never say that.
I'm like he would never.
He was like,
no,
he said that.
Yeah,
he told us that he did say that.
No,
I did.
Dad,
that was a key to his success.
That was one of your three keys to the game.
Remember the,
remember before the game and you said
threatened to kill the best of it.
Yeah,
bro.
He's got to be like,
God damn it.
It does work.
I'm telling you.
It's metal shit in the microwave again.
Yeah,
that is.
Yep.
That is metal shit in microwave again.
I'm like,
bro,
why do you lie?
Why are you talking that you didn't say it?
And he was like, I mean, because dad, he heard me threaten him.
I'm like, but it's your word against his.
What are you saying?
Like, his word means everything, bro.
You lie about it.
Damn, dude.
He's like, oh, damn, why don't you think of that?
How the fuck you don't think of that?
That's the first thing you should think of.
Yeah, denial.
Denial was first.
Yeah.
Like, no, I never said that.
I would never see that.
That's the first thing you said.
It's just all over fucking TikTok.
Our friends are going to kill you.
Backing up on defense.
Just so you know, my friends will kill you.
Yep, just so you know.
It works.
John boy.
It doesn't work at the higher levels, though.
The higher levels, it doesn't.
We were in the tournament.
And we're worried.
I think we was in Myrtle Beach, and we played this AAU team from Denver.
And these kids were, it was all white kids, bro.
Blind hair, blue-eyed kids.
And this is when I realized that white people are becoming
too hip because we were playing against that team and my son was you know the team still y'all not the
same threats yeah and these white kids weren't rattled at all not only were they not rattled they
had this they knew all the same slang that our kids knew like one of the white kids was like what
he said what pussy we're about to pack y'all to fuck up i said yeah i said they're from Denver
why are he talking like that yeah dude also you got to be wary you get you get west of the
mississippi the whites get they're like giants they are bro yeah they are they used
Coast whites are
Yeah
You can handle them
True
Smaller guys
Yeah
Yeah
Mm-hmm
Mm-hmm
True
The whites out there
They're like
They're mountain people
They are
Yeah
Those guys were huge
Yeah
They're
They're
They're
They're
They're
They're
They're
They're
They're
They're
They're
You're
You're
A little too
Far north
Too
Yeah
You're
That's
Where's
What's
From
Maine?
I'm
Who's from Maine?
Oh yeah
Super Flag
Is
from Maine
Yeah
Yep
Yep
You get into trouble out there.
Yeah, bro.
He's one of a kind.
I've never seen a white guy like that before.
Monster.
I haven't really been watching him play that much this season.
He's great.
Yeah, he's killing it.
He's killing it.
When he was 13, he was playing against Division 1 basketball players.
When he was 13.
Yeah, did you see that one guy who was saying that the only way to make the NBA
All-Star game interesting again is to just have it black versus white?
Yes.
I think that's true.
I think it is true.
It's true.
What else you're going to do, bro?
Nobody cares about East West.
And a whites versus blacks
All-Star game.
Yeah.
It'll be competitive now.
It's getting close.
Yes.
It'll be super competitive.
Not a deep roster.
No.
You guys could...
Fourth quarter is probably going to take over.
Four quarter is going to be crazy.
Four quarters will be crazy, bro.
But...
Yeah.
But no, it's getting close.
It's...
Luca, Cooper, Flag, Yolkitch.
Yeah.
That's getting crazy
Isn't there a couple kids
What's the guy named
It was in a three point contest
He's got a
Something canoble
Yeah
That kid, bro
Was he in Charlotte or something?
Yeah, yeah
And then what's the kid
Rivers or something
What's the kid on the Lakers?
Oh yeah, yep
Yeah
fucking what you call
It's not Austin Rivers
What the fuck's his name?
But yeah, I know you're talking about
He's super good
Yeah
He's Austin Reeves
Reeves. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's real good.
Yeah, brother, the white people are getting more athletic.
Yeah, I don't know.
It could just be the European teams.
It's also the three-point game.
Yes, true.
Once you switch to the three-point game.
Yeah, it's heavily relying on that now.
Yeah, on a three-point game.
The whites came back.
Yeah, true, yeah, true.
Floor got spread.
Yeah.
You see, when they asked them, B, how you learn how to shoot threes?
As he said, he was like, I was watching white people shoot.
Because he had broke his foot and he couldn't do anything else.
I was watching white people shoot and I just copied that shit.
Damn.
It's crazy, right?
That is hilarious.
Why isn't every player just doing that?
Just watch white people shoot.
I'm going to tell my son to do that.
Like, yo, watch white people shoot.
Deeper into the technical side of the game.
The technical side.
Turns out these fundamentals.
Yeah.
I might be on to something.
Yeah, bro.
Shooting threes is crazy.
It seems like it should be impossible
to shoot from that far away and make it.
I'd always pissed me off
that those weren't more of the like,
like, I don't know, whenever they'd show the highlights,
before the three became such a big part of it,
like whenever they'd show the high,
it would just be dudes Duncan.
I'd be like, show the threes.
I always like watching threes.
Threes are unbelievable.
The crazy shit.
Well, you know what?
Before the threes weren't as crazy, though.
They were crazy.
But now people are shooting from fucking 60, 70 feet, bro.
People shooting from down there half court now.
It's ridiculous.
Yeah.
It also feels like, I don't know.
It always bothered me when Steph was coming out of college.
They were like, I don't know if he's going to make it in the NBA.
Bro, I did not get that narrative at all.
And it was like, what do you?
That drove me insane.
Yeah, I did not get it.
If you have a coach.
And like, what?
That is like, I can't use that guy.
Fire him.
Yes.
Like what?
Right, he just throws it up and it goes in.
Yeah, yeah.
It's the craziest shit, bro.
Do you see him at the All-Star game shooting from the stands?
No.
Bro, he was shooting from the stands making that shit.
Yeah, it's nuts.
He was doing that at Davidson, too.
Yeah, he was.
Yeah.
It's crazy as hell.
And they were like, yeah, I don't know what he's going to make it to NBA.
How don't you know this?
Look what he did in the tournament.
Yeah.
He played against Russell Westbrook and Kevin Love and smoked those things, bro.
Like, what the fuck?
From Davidson.
Had no help.
Yeah.
Give him something.
Yeah.
Come on.
bro. And bro, and shooting a three and then walking off before it even goes in, what are we doing?
That's pretty nice.
What are we doing? And boy, is it painful when it goes wrong.
For sure. That's embarrassing. That's embarrassing. You shoot a three and walk off and it rims out.
Dude. That's crazy. That's, yeah, that's getting dunked on by a 12 year old for sure.
Yeah, for sure. And breaking your arm. Hell yeah. It's up there with it.
They got to bring back fights to the NBA.
fighting like a hockey style kind of thing let them get like a minute how long the hockey players get
till they tire out or fall to the ground let's do that yeah we got to do that i don't know
they don't got the equipment on so fucking body blows dude yeah yo i bet you all that tough guy shit
was stopping the NBA they get to do a lot of chirping yo because nothing's going to happen yeah
a whole lot of chirping it'd be interesting yeah let them fight fuck it i'd like it i'd like it
I'd be down.
I'd like it too if they're jerseys.
You know, like, you know how women have, like, the tank top that goes, like, around?
Oh, yeah.
They'd have to start wearing those jerseys.
So you couldn't just, like, rip their clothes off?
Yeah, right.
Like a onesie?
Yeah, yeah.
And you'd give them just, like, a vicious wedgy.
Hell yeah.
Yeah, you all like that shit.
Yeah, but watching seven-foot-two guys fight is crazy.
It'd be nuts.
They'd die.
Yeah, one of those guys gets hit.
Yeah, yeah, they'd die.
All their bones would shatter.
Yeah.
Yeah, if they fall from getting knocked out or something?
Yeah.
That punch travels like 600 feet.
Hell yeah.
Yeah, I remember Shaq was trying to fight Charles Barkley, and he swung at him.
And if he would have connected, he probably would have killed Charles Barkley.
Yeah.
He probably would have, he cocked that shit back from here and just missed.
Imagine getting punched in the face by Shaq.
Bro.
His fist is the size of your head.
Like his fist is literally the size of your whole head
It would be
Yeah
I think my head would explode
Oh for sure
I think yeah it would legitimately get like
Getting hit with a sledge hand
Yeah bro what
But it's hard to punch down so you'd be higher
I don't know
If he grabs you your cook
If he grabs you and then punches you it's over with
Yeah but I mean if you were like on your knees
punching someone in the face
Yeah
That hard
That's where he's coming at for me.
Yeah, true.
Well, you think you come with the Shaq's knee?
Dude, I'm...
Yeah, probably.
Belly button?
Yeah.
He's coming down.
That is a hammer blow.
God damn.
You might even see where it's coming from
if he's swinging straight.
He's like right over top of you.
If he disguised it, yeah.
Yeah, bro.
You'd just be reaching behind him.
It would literally be coming out of the clouds.
Hell yeah.
Or were you in a dark-ass room.
You ain't going to see shit, bro.
I'd feel the presence.
God, damn.
Something big is in here.
Yeah, dog.
All right, dude, well, thank you for coming on.
Oh, thanks for having me.
That's it.
Cruise to an hour, dude.
Yeah, that was quick.
I didn't realize it.
Damn, yeah.
Cruise to it.
Very nice.
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