Stuff Island - The Situp Situation - Steve Gerben - Stuff Island #156

Episode Date: October 23, 2024

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all right we're going one camera yeah we're going one camera the second camera didn't work guys we're working out the kinks all right i bought a bunch of stuff today that's none of it's working so we're just gonna ride we're gonna ride with what we got that's good do the entire preamble that you're cutting about how the what about how what i'm not good at these and and nobody believes me it's really hard to podcast that's what i want to say i was thinking about on the way over here i just wanted to say you know well i think it's hard if in your head you get caught up in thinking that it needs to be like a riot you know what i mean you got to just enjoy what you what you like talking about for instance you were talking about you're working on your golf I'm not talking about that why not I find it

interesting I was thinking about it today while I was driving I was like running errands and I was thinking about the golf swing and I was thinking about how much that has been like a thing in my life that I've been unable to swing a golf club. Like, I feel like I'm like a pretty good athlete and I've been unable to swing a golf club in any kind of consistent way. Like I can't participate in a round of golf because I'm just all over the fucking place. And I do feel like there's a couple of things in my life that I feel like are this way, but I feel like some important part about heart about understanding who I am and like being able to use my brain better. Like the answer lies in perfecting the golf swing. Like if I can overcome what's getting in the way of me swinging the club, well, I'll be, that will be like useful to me in other areas of my life. Like it won't be an isolated, just golf thing. Right.

You know what I'm saying? Body control. It's, but it's not just body control. It's also about like getting past the frustration. Yeah. You know what I mean? There's like a whole,

it's like, yeah, it's like learning something. It's learning something that looks so goddamn easy and old people can do it well. Like that drives me crazy. And so when you're not doing it well, it's just so fucking frustrating.

I, and I, I like, I feel like there's a certain amount of like impatience I normally have with that type of frustration that I need to get past. So it's like, yeah, no, i think the golf swing is like an incredibly interesting topic it's not just fucking out in the on a lawn swing in a club it's like there's something important in there there's so much important in there i love it we're gonna talk for 15 minutes about it please yeah well i think you know all sports have metaphors for life, but I think golf in that way, dealing with frustration. And then also, but like what I love about it, and I think either I think it's like an on off for people. Like you either hit a golf ball and really connect with it one time and you see that thing just boring into the night at a driving range.

Yeah. And you're like, I have to figure out how to do that again yes um or you or you're just a sociopath to it not that that's a bad thing but it just does nothing for you yeah yeah um but it's such a fun thing to work on trying to error correct and getting immediate feedback yes of. Of what you're doing. And then does it do what you want? And then the thing itself, the ball tells you everything about exactly where you went wrong.

Exactly. Yeah. So you have to read what just happened and then change your body. I know, but changing your body is so hard. It is. And, and there also,

it's like, I don't know. I can make, I'm in my brain. I make easy excuses they're also it's like i don't know i can make in my brain i make easy excuses for like why it's not working like i'm just like i just don't have the body type for it you absolutely have the body type for it i know but then there's little things where it's just like i just i don't know like there's i can't do a sit-up i don't believe that and i'd like to see you try i swear to to God. I will show you.

I will attempt to do this. At the end of this podcast, I can't do it. You can. I can't. Do you have like spinal fusion? No. I can do a sit-up. Like if someone holds my feet, I can do a sit-up.

I can't just sit by myself and do a sit-up. I can't turn over. It's the craziest. It is crazy. You're very athletic. I know. You should see him throw a football. It's crazy how good you are.

I can throw a football all right, especially a little one. It fits my hands. But like the, I don't know. There's just something about my arms and the rotation of it. It just like,

I know that it can't, there's plenty of guys that look and are exactly like me that play golf. We're going to figure it out. Yeah, yeah. But it's more just the like, the not making excuses. Hey, this might be something for your Patreon. Yeah.

You're always looking for content. And we'll take a video of the pre, know perhaps well and then and this is the real you let me coach you you let me have power over you i would i will give it i will give in to the coaching of steve gerben i will do it i told you the other day i'd be down like the whole time we're in westchester just yoga and golf like anytime we're not actually working on the thing just yoga and golf okay it's like because i do feel like uh i'm just completely unflexible and there's there's like this is another thing where it's just like dancing is another one of those things that I like want to do.

I just feel like, I feel like I could dance. I just don't. You definitely can dance. You did the Chesterfield or whatever that thing is. I did do that. But, and I learned that pretty quick. It inspired me to want to dance more, but I also feel like just knowing my body better dancing is an important part of that process. You know what I'm saying? I suppose. better dancing is an important part of that process you know what i'm saying i suppose i feel like what i'm saying is i think all of these are mind expanding activities they're not just dancing to look cool it's like i do feel like it would i don't know i remember hearing as a kid that like there was like famous football like lynn Swan or something, like took ballet lessons. Yeah. And it like helped him tremendously as a wide receiver.

We consumed the same content in the 90s somehow. Now let me just, let me just, so because in trying to explain how bad I am at this, while you were talking, all I was thinking was like, okay. Yeah. I had no comment. But I know that you do because when we talk normally you do have a comment no i don't yes you do yes you do when we hang out normally all we do is talk non-stop we are very peaceful when we hang out i don't think we do and if we don't just sit

shiva we don't just sit quietly sometimes sing. Sometimes we do. Sometimes we do. Maybe. You're very peaceful. I know this is way too close to the show, but it is true. I don't know. You don't think, I feel like we talk about all kinds of things. I used to go over your house every night. Yeah.

And for four hours, we would rant and rave about David Deutsch or whatever book we were reading. We were like reading physics books and trying to understand them yeah yeah then we realized we can't and so that's an important step yeah that's an important it is an important step thank god yeah can you imagine if i think about like my career because i i got my start doing stand up and there was a little heat early on yeah and i'm like my god if i my i started a career at that point in my life yeah i'd be done so much like over career over at this point because i'd

have the one thing i'd be like and then i would go into trying to be a physics guy or something yeah everybody'd be like what the fuck is this rightfully and then it'd just be over i don't know i thought that other stuff was going well it's too difficult it's too difficult to have an opinion that's educated and yeah and make it funny yeah yeah there's like um and and and you know it's just like posterity doesn't look i think positively on jackasses or like people trying to make other people look stupid i agree and i like i i had taken down the immigration talk like a while ago because there was a blocked and reported episode did you ever listen to that podcast no oh i really like it and they reported blocked and blocked and reported okay katie herzog and jesse single and

uh they they did one about how john oliver and john stewart Stewart were talking about gender affirming care. And I think, in fairness to Black Journal Reported, they would describe themselves as journalists. Yeah. As opposed to some sort of political affiliation. Yeah. And they were just sort of talking about where they got the journalism wrong. Yeah. about where they got the journalism wrong yeah and the when when you hear it and then you hear the smarm attached to it yeah you're like i can't be i that's thank god i saw that thank god i

listened to that yeah because it's so alluring like and they and they want you to you know yeah yeah of course i think i don't know that stuff is really tough getting into because there are really fun topics to talk about but obviously humor requires like exaggeration yeah so if you kind of once you bring the humorous element to it into it you're going to be like letting go of, once you bring the humorous element to it, into it, you're going to be like letting go of some of, some of the journalistic integrity, I think almost by design. And then there's also just like what I, where I being like entirely objective and the facts that you're getting are all right, you still can come across as biased and getting it wrong because of just the

things that you chose to talk about. Does that make sense? I think so. Like because of the like limit of time that you have to deliver a message, you're going to just pick and choose certain things to highlight. Even if all of those things are accurate, it can still come across. Even if you're trying to be as objective as possible as having like a massive slant, even if you don't add the like condescending smarmyness to it, it's like you're still kind of in this pigeonhole of like, well, you chose to cover that and not this other thing

that makes you biased. Totally. Yeah. I remember that from the immigration talk. It was like not talking about H-1B visas. Yeah, yeah. And well, you know, it's supposed to uh well i only had an hour yeah yeah yeah i'm sorry i didn't get to the thing that you find to be the most important issue of the whole yeah

yeah but it does also feel like you're yeah yeah i did give like a slanted take on this issue yeah i don't know that's that stuff is, that stuff is incredibly hard. I think about that with standup all the time. We're like, yes. Yeah. Because it's like the jokes, you're still limited by the jokes that you choose to tell instead of other ones and other opinions that you have. And like how this chunk of material comes across to people versus another chunk that you feel is equally funny i can change how they think about you entirely yeah and and yes it also could really change like room to room like who you're in front of like what jokes you want to tell if an audience is slanted one way or another, you're going to have one to have like a way different vibe.

You know, I feel like there's, yeah, there's, there's a little bit of like, in like, I was joking about this where it's like, you know, if you're, if you're in, if you're in front of a very liberal audience, it's like, I'm going to give you my most conservative takes in front of a conservative audience. I'm going to give you my most conservative takes. If I'm in front of a conservative audience, I'm going to give you my most liberal takes. Each audience is going to think I'm the biggest asshole from the other side, but

I don't know. I guess really I'm not. Good for you. I don't know. I told you how funny I'm thinking about doing. I don't know if I do that all the time. I'm generally pretty left leaning. But as I said, you looked Shane square in the eyes and told him you were voting for khan and then stayed looking at it i would have never i mean in a million years that is the balls on you well by virtue of you saying this on this podcast he's gonna i'm gonna reap the whirlwind i texted you that i was

like i can't believe you were you did that unafraid and then you wrote back oh i was afraid but yeah because i would i would do the opposite i would think i would lean depending on the room different ways like what like yeah yeah ingratiating yourself with them yeah but that's what it's so difficult to break politics away from if you do want to do stand-up so like i've tried to do stand-up recently and it's i fucking suck it's very difficult and like the one joke that i was trying to figure out and i have to abandon it because again it starts to feel like way too political was uh like mental institutions wanting to get like mental institutions back yeah and um again it just feels like you you're making a

a political point yeah like a really heavy political point as opposed to just like hey man i don't know what the fuck i'm talking about i feel like this is fun yeah but bizarrely i also feel like i know what i'm talking of course that's the humor i want i do want mental institutions back yeah i feel like what do you how what's your take on mental on mental institutions i like uh like when i first hear you say that i think, at least it's a place for them to be as opposed to just roaming around. You know what I mean? Yeah. You're like, but I, I feel like that's, the other thing is you, you relentlessly get into the weeds. You know what I mean? It's like,

because all the political questions are always like whether to do it or not to do it. It's like, should you have mental institutions? It institutions it's like yeah but then what do you do inside them i don't know that's the problem yeah it's like what do you do inside how do you take care of those people what are you doing and it's like we're gonna do our best this is what i'm saying we're gonna do our best what is that that that is padded room the finest dream meals a day yeah you're really comfortable yeah you will be conceived this is what i was like trying to joke about but to say that the problem with them is they're very expose prone because the clay actually says but it's like it's the it's people having the worst day of their lives every single day and you could go in there and find somebody you know in it where

you go how dare they but what's the alternative what's the alternative yeah to the general population that is paying taxes you know what i mean though i am no i know yeah like i don't want feces thrown at me no but is that hat is that is that happening not to me it happened to somebody somebody you know on next door yeah yeah it was like during one of the encampments or what have you yeah yeah um but you know i know i mean i i yeah i agree with you it's it it is that is the problem is it's expose prone and if someone has like if you're not hands-on with that type of situation a lot it's like regardless of like how people describe the environment to you you're going to be fucking shocked yeah and we should or at least i should hedge this by saying, like, I understand that they were terrible. Of course.

Places. I read like half of one book on this. And it seems as if what was happening at the time was like they were both terrible places. And this was a period where people started to believe that talk therapy could cure you like a vaccine. Yeah. So I think it was like part of JFK's whole thing where it was like a three pronged approach of like community is going to take care of people. We're going to do a lot of talk therapy and, and you know,

all from a good place. Yeah. But then, you know, he's just, you know, it's like, oops.

Yeah. It's like, of course it sounds better to go like hey no we're just gonna talk to them so much that they're gonna get better yeah you're like yeah let's try that because right now they're just feeding them pills and keeping them in the most and treating them terribly of course shock electroshock stuff and all that but like yeah i again it's like i there's tons of jobs like that where it's like i don't want to be on the front lines of any of those choices you know it's like it's horrifying what do you what do you do with like because anytime you write someone off and you're like well they are alive

but we're going to give them pills so that they can't do anything for the rest of their days. Yeah. That's horrible sounding, but it may be the best option. What sort of system could we create where not parole, but you know, don't just check in on them. Say like, uh, yeah,

I don't, I don't know how you could do it. You'd be, you'd be forever. You know, like Rosemary Kennedy or I don't know if that's her name, but it was like JFK says they like scrambled her brains. He also had a real reason

to have a problem with it yeah they put they performed lobotomy on her yeah i mean i told you i suck at this fucking pile what was she doing i'm just thinking about a lot i feel like that's like the same thing with like all of the like general like social safety net stuff where you're like it's good. I support it. It goes wrong a lot. You know what I mean? There's a lot of money being wasted. It's like, dude, if you're on the front lines of like picking and choosing what to spend money on in those programs, it's gotta be fucking horrible. And then on top of that, it's like the other political powers that be demanding you to spend it in certain ways. It's like,

dude, you're, you're in hell. You're in hell. Even if you knew the exact right way to do something, you'd never be able to get it done. And if you were doing it that way, someone would see it and go, this is fucking horrific. There's gotta be a better way.

Even if there wasn't. Maybe this is my life's calling. I think I could take that. There's no way. There's no way. Was no way was it batman where they're like you have to live long enough to see yourself hated open these institutions let everybody breathe the heat on me i'm like dude because like it's the we gotta we can't all you'd get was fringe cases is like people that seem like they're totally fine but are totally not and super

dangerous that's not who i'd populate it with i wouldn't start there yeah yeah well i'm saying that's the one that they would put you in charge of like yeah you don't get to choose your you know your role in it you'd always get you'd get the worst possible case scenario and it would fuck your own head up about like whether you're doing the right thing or not. It's like, yeah, there's. Hola. Si, senores.

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A little bit. And acting. People say it's corny. But you do what you love and you never work a day in your life. You'll. Any like serious challenge on a like community-wide level is pure hell and you want nothing to do with it i agree with that

and the people that even choose to take that on are like i mean nuts i'd rather deal with a golf swing that i can't quite figure out hey yeah that's a good pattern All right, quick. New topic. Figure it out. New topic? Yeah, save us. I was driving today. Well, that's a sad topic. I went for a hike.

Okay, great. I went for a hike. It was fantastic. I'm loving the suburbs. That's fantastic. Tommy was living in the suburbs in Texas, and he was telling me how great it was. And now I'm in the suburbs back Texas and he was telling me how great it was and now I'm in the suburbs

but back north and it's it's incredible I called my brother today to talk to him about it he was just like yeah but you have to drive everywhere I was like I'm loving driving I'm loving driving I'm driving around it's amazing I'm running errands

without having to worry about parking you're going to get there you Without having to worry about parking? You're going to get there, you're going to have parking. Parking's everywhere. Especially out here, there's just like... There's a Whole Foods every 150 feet. They just repeat stores over and over. They keep getting closer and closer to me.

It's unbelievable. It's got everything you need. And Westchester's awesome too, because it's still got like a downtown with like cute little restaurants and bars and stuff. Like you have that. Sadie and I walked into town the other night and I got a drink. I haven't had a drink in like a while.

Like a drink that I just did for myself. You know what I mean? The only drinking I've done in recent memory has just been like it's a thing good for you i'm drinking bud lights or whatever yeah i had like an actual cocktail like with dinner i had one and it was just like it felt so good and i was rocked one cocktail we'll do one cock like yeah hard liquor right now for me is like it if i take it i like i have like a 15 30 minute window it feels like i've taken mushrooms it hits me so hard what kind of cocktails you have it was like a old-fashioned it was like rye and oh my god it was yeah yeah i was i was enjoying it so much yeah it was

so good but you can walk into town and do that and then just walk home walking home walking home on just like waking up the birds yeah yeah and i had that thought last night too i was walking it's like it's so fucking peaceful out here yeah you can see why if anyone messed with it we would bomb the shit dude it's there's it's totally quiet it's just animal sounds there's electricity street lamps there's running i mean there's everything is I was thinking every lawn is manicured. Yeah. I had a similar thought

that I was like, what are we doing with nukes? We can't, you know? Yeah. Can't get rid of all this shit. We're going to have some accident.

You know, they're never going to get rid of them. You got to keep them just in case someone tries to fuck with you. I guess. I mean,

you're never going to get there. They're probably probably loose ones floating around all over the place. Oh my God. That's another situation. I wouldn't know the first thing about course. I'm not going to, I'm president. Am I going to now? No, no, no, no. Think about all the other shit you have to deal with

you're not gonna find out what happens when you get rid of all your nukes it's like just still trying to figure out just education and health care and like you know mental institutions it's like i just leave the nukes where they are status quo yeah let's not do any of that it's like well yeah i can't imagine what an actual like presidential day is it's so funny i started uh my girl and i started watching um the uh what was the west wing okay this was like a while ago and it's just like it's such a funny show to watch now because you're like

there hasn't been a situation like this in the white house in eight years why neither of the presidents recently has anyone coming to for like sober judgment you know nobody's and like he's not quoting old literature or like referencing some his like history or anything like like nobody's doing that what it's got to be like inside the white house has got to be insane insane insane what do you talk to those either of those guys about i have no idea and what do you even bring to them i don't know well i mean you know yeah dude this guy one of the episodes the guy's having like a huge ethical quandary about like, you know, they like some troops overseas, some U.S. troops got attacked. And like the targets that like the NSA and the CIA give them are basically just like pre-agreed targets with the other country that they're going to hit just to like, just to again, keep this like political sort of like status quo. You hit us, we're hitting you back.

Let's not turn this into a whole fucking thing. And he's having like a serious, like dialogue with himself and the rest of the room about like, what do we do? Like, like, how do we deal with this injustice we're supposed to be like protecting americans but obviously don't want to start it's like a conversation like that there's no way it hasn't even come close to happening what's got to be going on in there i that's what we should know what's going on in there? Yeah, well, who's... Just tell us the team. What do you mean? Oh, the rest of the people that are actually running the show. Yeah, like, right now, who's deciding?

That's... I don't know. Just, like, this is the team. If you vote her for her, you get the same team. Yeah. The same people. You know, whatever. I don't know.

That's... I have nothing but stupid takes about politics. No, I know. You get my point. It's like, he can't be making decisions. There's no way. So who? There's no way.

I mean, he's even got to be saying stuff that they're like, we're not doing that. Right. Yeah. All the time. Right. And then when people, like to get the yes, it's somebody coming in with like a big smile and a bunch of head nodding. Yeah because yeah right and then it's like yeah you got him yeah yeah we're doing it yeah yeah i do i i i like tommy and i took a tour of like the capital

building one of uh one of our buddies got us like a tour of the capital building not that long ago and you do like you walk through there and it's like, DC has that weird thing where there's like, there's so much of the staff in there and the real like operator guys are these like, they're like 10th generation, like lawyers that have just been like their grandparents and their great grandparents and their great great great great great have all just been roaming these halls

keeping this machine moving forever it's like those are the guys all of this stuff is just those people you know what i mean i feel like feel like the presidents get these top-line items that they get to deal with, and then everything else feels like it's... It's just... It's just... There are people that have just been in the industry forever. You know what I mean?

That's how it feels. It's like those people who, like, I don't know, they're like in Hollywood or whatever, that are just, like i don't know they're like they're like in hollywood or whatever that are just like generational sort of like they don't they're not superstars and their their parents aren't superstars they just like run the thing that like has always greased the wheels for all this other stuff and everything goes through them it's like that kind of person yeah which is really bizarre i always wanted to be like one of those people of course you did you know what i mean yeah there is like i know you know it's not i do feel a little bit like amputated from my history what is your history i don't know

just like someone sailed over from ireland like not that long ago was it your dad's side or your mom's side both both well my yeah my dad's dad just got on a ship and came here and then my mom's dad was born in new york but then he got sent back and just grew up in ireland and then came back interesting yeah yeah so it's all like pretty new and it's like after that it's like i don't know what anyone was doing just farmers right you know i'm always so jealous of the people that have just like they know what was going on like 15 generations back he's just one of your great grandparents was a farmer and invited his friend over to farm it was like this would be great then his friend was like the farm. It was like, this will be great. Then his friend was like, no, it's going to be boring.

I'm not that good at farming. Yeah. And then, yeah, that was it. There'll be like a photo of him hanging out with her in nice clothes once. It's crazy. And none of them had like, you know, skills. You know, like I love the guys that are just like i don't know even if they're just shoemakers just like cobblers for 200 years it's like that's what we do right we're the best at it

nobody breaks free i'm like jealous of all that stuff if you could be good at one skill what would he's considering. Yeah, yeah. I would rock them with that one. The one, like just a trade? Yes. Hands on the goatee. Yeah. Let's all just think quietly. Well, this is what you get to do. This is what you get to do. This is what you get to do on the podcast. You just think quietly well this is what you get to do this is what you get to do this is what you get to do on the podcast you can think quietly i'm ruining your pie this is going to be

the worst this is good this is good what would you do one trade the shoe thing is cool because it never goes away everyone needs shoes so it can be like old know, I'd like to be someone who like, uh, or like furniture. If you were like a furniture maker, like a high end, like generations back, just carpenter, but like super like fine carpentry. Yeah. That would be sweet. Carpentry. Definitely.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just woodworking. It'd be unbelievable and if you just spent all your day just shaping and yeah putting that stuff that'd be yeah that'd be so sick and i would do that i i was like there was a guy uh simon pierce glass blowing that was cool i would not i have no interest in that no no it's bad for you i think yeah yeah like blowing glass and being around a furnace is bad but woodworking

is as natural as it gets well what about you i don't have a good one i'm sitting here with a blank mind this happens this happens on the podcast because i i just i just want you to admit it's hard to do to talk for how long how long we've been talking for 35 minutes oh my fucking god we got 25 more minutes i have nothing nothing to say. That's not true. I'm sitting here in a panic. Why? Because I got blank. I've got blank. Yeah.

I think people can. Yeah. It's like I have gone through a huge shift in my life where I'm like, I don't want to talk. What do you mean? I just don't know how to say it. Like, I just don't want to, you know. You love talking. No, I don't. Yes, you love. No, I don't know how to say it like i just don't want to you know you love talking no i don't yes you love no i don't yes you do you yes you do yes you do you love telling stories you love yeah you love all the many characters that you meet throughout your day

no i don't yes you do yes you do every time i see you every time i see you have a story about someone you had an interaction with and you describe them in detail those are personal see that is that's the tough part yeah it's like how much of your personal life do you want to reveal right you know and uh yeah that that's challenging and you do this long enough yeah you're really scraping the barrel of like things that you think you also just always expose yourself as like a complete nincompoop idiot yeah but so is everyone else the world first of all the world is too complicated at this point for anyone to be good at multiple things like oh like an actual expert i totally agree you know what i mean so it's like that's why the world's so confusing right now is you have like someone like Elon Musk, who's clearly a genius. You know what I mean? In many, in like as about as many different disciplines as one could be a genius, but it's also completely fucking idiot about a bunch of other stuff. Everyone's like that. We just happen to be not experts in really anything. Right? That's the frustrating part. Okay.

But yeah, you're going to expose yourself as an idiot. That's what it is. That's part of the fun. You know, because then people comment, you fucking dumbass, this is how that works. And then you get to find out. You know, so like the whole mental mental institution thing you're probably going to get like a long response see that's what you don't want that's what i don't want why it's

i'm very much like a guy that's just like touch an engine once and it's too hot and i'll never touch it again well you you feel like you've gotten burned no i just don't want to like i see what this world i i don't know that's not a clear thought and like like saying unclear thoughts it's another thing i don't like doing so i don't know i think i don't know how to describe but i i think what what bothers me slightly about it is just that if you say hey this is not a like i obviously want to do this cause I love you. Yeah. Yeah.

And I'm so happy to be around you and support the podcast and all that stuff. Yeah. But I'm also very, very bad at it. And I just, and like, that's where people, uh,

like I don't, uh, I just don't, you know, you feel like everybody's being nice and they're like, no, they want to hear you. It's like they, they have no idea how much they don't want to hear me.

Well, I think it's more that we want them to hear you because we spend so much time around you and we know all the stuff that you say and we enjoy it. All right. Well, I'll stop doing what I'm doing now because this has got to be getting annoying as well. No, it's kind of fascinating. Okay.

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were like in terms of like engaging with all this that I find I have like some preconceived notions about it that I see like other people doing a better job of like interacting with their fans, not necessarily like in the comedy space, but like the people who like wind up doing like big, like, you know, they'll do big,

like history podcasts or they'll do like big deep dives into things. It's like, they do wind up having like really interesting conversations with their fans. They like engage with them in a way that's like. That's definitely a personality type. And that's cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like I don't have the stamina to necessarily like keep up with it.

You know what I mean? A hundred percent. Because I'm like you where it's like I like a lot of thoughtful sitting and thinking. Yeah. You know? And I'll tell you what I don't have and why I can't do what you just described. Because you're going to get some crazies. Yeah.

And that's the hot engine thing. It's like, touch one hot engine, and it's like, I kind of get some people coming up to me about tires. Yeah. Almost everybody is complete sweetheart, nice. And it feels great to have somebody come up or they they see me and they get like a smile and that that is awesome and then you do get a few that are way too invasive yeah and so it's it then necessarily puts you in a position where now anybody that comes up you're like you're reading yeah looking

you know you're it's this is what it is i'm reading body language i'm reading eye contact i'm reading like yeah types of questions and stuff like that and now it's you know you're kind of like waiting for the weird thing or what have you yeah and so i i think that there are people that are very good that they're like hey that's part of it and i these people the ones that interact with their audiences yeah they're very good at sort of saying that like weeding them out we're not and like handling it and not letting it bother them um that can also be like a tough thing too because the crazy ones are always your first fans you know what i mean i mean not always but like like a lot of the first ones are like

a little bit like unhinged but then they like they've done such a sweet thing they like saw something in you before it feels like anyone else did the best you know what i mean so you had the like there's like a loyalty to that that's like hard to get past you know what i mean like like what that crazy person said to me at a time in my life was really important right you know what i mean like like what that crazy person said to me at a time in my life was really important right you know what i mean and who am i this doesn't sound like a crazy person just sounds like a nice person that's a fan yeah but it's a little crazy okay but yeah yeah it is there's there's that too but yeah it's uh there are certain types of people that are just so good at that. Yeah. And that's all

I'm asking you to acknowledge. There's just different types of people that are good at different things. Specializing in different forms of social media. Yeah. Or producing the amount of content. Again, it's just one of those things that... I am a podcast listener. I listen to you. I listen to Shane and all that. Yeah. And it

seems effortless it is the exact opposite of that yes it seems like just sit down and talk but it's like you gotta get yourself into uh you can't do this rhythm yeah yeah well you can if you don't do it it is it's like there's i don't know i've never talked about this on the podcast oh okay so there is something that i find interesting about it when you're looking at somebody and you go fuck i don't know. I've never talked about this on the podcast. Oh, okay. So there is something that I find interesting about it. When you're looking at somebody and you go, fuck, I don't have any thoughts. What do you do? I start like searching my memory. It's all empty.

Yeah. But it's like that. I don't know how to get past that because it does happen to me. Sometimes I'll like bring up like old things that I've said, but it feels like the same type of thing where like, when you're in that, when you're in a room and someone like asked when you were a kid and someone asked you what you wanted to be when you grew up and you're like, I don't fucking have a thing.

I don't, I never had a thing. Right. I never like, I knew from as early as I can remember that saying you wanted to be like a fighter pilot was like hack. You know what I mean? Like if anyone asked me,

I was like, I don't like, I'm going to wait till I'm grown up to figure that out. That's a grownup decision. Why would I make that now? You know, then you wind up just saying like a pro athlete or something. I don't know.

What did you say? I said actor really yeah yeah i was always a little performer you always wanted to be an actor i mean i was always in like the little plays and little doodads yeah yeah i always wanted to i always wish i had the balls to do that. Yeah. Like my brother and I would film little like, you know. Sketches and stuff? Sketches, yeah, with those big ass VHS. Incredible. Yeah. Did you edit them together?

Well, the way you would edit them is just like stop recording. Right. Yeah, and then you'd start recording. And there was a fade button. Really? Yes, you'd hold. You'd start holding fade. You'd push start recording.

And then when you wanted to fade out, you'd start holding fade you'd push start recording and then when you wanted to fade out you'd start holding fade and then you'd hit oh my god it's such high risk right it's such a high risk because because the only way to do another take is to delete the previous take yeah so you really got to believe that the next rewind and stop at the exact spot yeah oh i would love to have seen the fights one. You have to rewind and stop at the exact spot. Yeah. Oh, I would love to have seen the fights between you and your brother. There were no fights. No.

He was the director. He did all the decisions. He did, yeah. I always wanted to do stuff like that. I always had this idea in my mind that like, I don't know, sports and art stuff were like separate. And that you couldn't cross over between the two. Interesting.

I don't know why I... Like, I don't know. I remember even seeing like Woody Allen was like really into basketball. It's like, wow, how does that... Yeah. I was always intrigued by that as well. He was a huge Knicks fan. Yeah. Isn't he like an artsy weirdo?

Yeah. I don't get it. I don't know. I had a lot of that stuff as a kid that I think got in the way of me really doing more things than, or doing less things than I feel like I should have. So what sort of answers did you,

didn't you like getting checked for lice? Isn't that a thing? I love that. Yeah. Yeah. Head massage. Getting attended to is also very nice. Oh yeah.

I like getting, getting examined. I always like getting examined. I love getting examined. I would like if, yeah, if I, if I got like super rich or something, I think I would just have people examine me all the time. Just check stuff. You know what I mean? Look in your eyes, the flashlight, look in your ear. I love getting looked in my ear. It'll tickles a little bit. It was nice. And you know, you knew that if they

found something that i get taken care of hopefully and if they didn't good to go right that always feels great yeah yeah yeah i liked yeah i liked all that i always want to like yeah i want to be i every time i'm watching like hard knocks or something and they're like just like getting a massage and watching TV. I'm like, that seems fucking unbelievable. If there's just a whole system around just taking care of your body, someone else is doing it. Someone else is taking care of your body. Incredible.

Just being stretched out. You don't even have to do any of it. Yeah. That, to me, is the dream. It's always frustrating to me that any time, if I go to the doctor's office and I'm just like, do a full, they're like, what is that? I'm like, just look at everything.

Sure. Like, we don't, that's not a, you have to have something. No, it's a physical. Yeah, but the physical, I'm talking about, like, I want, like, as deep of an analysis as I can afford. Check everything. How's it working? You know?

You're describing a physical. This is bothering me. It's bothering me. No, it's not. It is. No. They take your blood. They look all around.

Saliva. They like, yeah. Oh, you want like a. Just take as much, collect as much data as you possibly can. Put me in the MRI or something. Look at my organs. That I agree. You want...

Full body scan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do want that as well. What's that thing that they had in Elysium? Stick me in a you know I don't ever I don't think I saw the movie they just stick you in a thing

and full yeah head to toe well in Elysium I think it fixes you Chris has never seen True Lies by the way that's a different thing I just remembered one thing to say and I said it but I think that there is a thing that you can buy now

that is a full body scan so it's a similar concept to Elysium this one doesn't fix you but it is something rich people can pay to get the full body scan yeah I don't know it just feels like you got to be able

to look through the human body and be like that shouldn't be there right but apparently it can give you false positives and of course yeah yeah yeah it always goes wrong every this is yeah this is it always it always goes wrong there's always something that they're like well we should i remember yeah that was an annoying experience i had my mom was like you got to get your moles checked this was when i was like 19 she took me into the doctor and uh he was like that one looks kind of weird i'm gonna cut it off you and i was like what do you mean it looks like is it a problem he's like we gotta cut it off you to find out just took a chunk out of my back and then they were like yes now it's fine we've got the love results basically just so you don't want that did me i don't know i that doesn't match what

do you mean that's not an examination i don't like getting pieces of me cut off yes you do no i don't yeah that's exactly what you'd want i mean no i'd want them to be able to like i don't know put a needle in it and take some of it and squirt it on a thing and examine that you don't have to cut the whole thing off interesting right i i think you i think they know what they're doing i don't think that they do i don't think this guy did they definitely you're telling me they can't take like almost like the way that you'd sample like uh like the polls you know what i mean well the way that you'd sample from different counties or whatever you get like a enough of a statistical sample that it works it's i've seen enough not cancers yeah well hopefully some dermatologists

could crush in the comments and just tell you. Yeah, why they need to take the whole thing off. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure there's a good. Yeah. Because they got to test all the cells, I'm sure. Yeah.

But still, there's a lot of that stuff that I feel like should be more advanced. The surgery that I had that was the weirdest was the, uh, like the cataract surgery. Oh yeah. Cause I had a terrible, but I still do like a terrible feel, a fear of,

uh, anesthesia. Cause I had like bad experiences with it. Um, should I just give some medical history? Is this, this is kind of, I guess.

Yeah. I don't think this. Yeah. Um, so just fear of of, I guess. Yeah. I don't exist. Yeah. Um, so just fear of anesthesia. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I had,

uh, it's like UV ideas. So, uh, which is the eye disease that accompanies this form of arthritis. Yeah. So they were doing like steroid injections. Okay.

So you'd have to be out for that. Cause they're sticking a needle, like back in your retina. Yeah. So, uh, to be out for that. Cause you're sticking a needle like back in your retina. Yeah. So, uh, that was just like tear. It just felt awful.

Yeah. And so then when it came time for cataracts, but the doctor was like, well, if you want to do it awake, I mean, we could do it awake, but I'm going to have to have an anesthesiologist there in case you like,

you know, start freaking out, start freaking out start freaking out so i remember got in and uh he asked like what i wanted on the radio and i wanted howard so howard's howard's turn yeah and uh that's like howard and robin on ysp yeah like robin quiver's voice incredible and yeah and uh yeah i did start to like panic initially because they put oxygen they gave me oxygen but it had the same smell as the mask from and i thought i was i thought the anesthesia was from the mask it wasn't okay so i immediately started i was like you said you said

you weren't you know like shut up like you said we weren't gonna do know, like, shut up. Like, you said we weren't going to do it. He's like, it's just oxygen. It's just oxygen. And then and he was the sweetest man. He retired recently, but he looked a lot like Tom Wilkinson. You know, the actor from. No, no. From Michael Clayton.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And he was just like, Steve I do need you to calm down Or I am gonna have to have the anesthesia I'll just give you something to calm

I was like, okay, okay Let me see the needle They still numb it And he was like, no And I was like, I'd like to see the needle He's like, Steve, no And so then they put you down And like strap your head

Like you're totally locked in And then numb it And then your vision just kind of fades away But you can still see shadows It was really gross Terrifying Absolutely terrifying Because you could see the shadow of the needle coming in

And removing the Oh my god absolutely terrible. Because you could see the shadow of the needle coming in and removing this. Oh, my God. No sedatives, nothing. Holy shit. I did that twice. Do you have a fear of needles? No.

Yeah, neither do I. Yeah. And I had a doctor hide the needle from me. I was getting was getting it for like tooth thing and they would hide it behind their back and then bring it out and i was like thing what whatever that blue thing go ahead but it's like don't hide it like that's scarier yeah yeah if you just put it yes if you just if you were just holding it confidently, like there's nothing to be scared of, I wouldn't be scared. The more you hide it,

the more scared I get. But I don't know. It going through your eye. That was intense. Yeah. And I haven't gone under anesthesia since, but I think now I would definitely, I would take like Versed

and then just let them see you do you have like a fear that you're not gonna wake up no i just have a fear of like passing out unwillingly it just it's really disgusting that sensation yeah ever since you said that it has been creeping into my head have you ever had it the fear of passing no have you have you ever had anesthesia uh yeah and it wasn't uncomfortable maybe you didn't fight it i fought the shit out of it i mean you know for like a half a second yeah yeah but you just like you it's like you starts like your body starts getting all numb and tingly this now again this was also anesthesia for 20 years ago yeah yeah and then all of a sudden your vision starts like going and you're like. Scary.

Scary. Yeah. Forced loss of consciousness. Yeah. I had it as like a little kid. I don't think I really even understood what was going on. Right. But as an adult, it would be like.

Yeah, it would freak me out more but the what you said about like the fear of like passing myself though what thank god we have it yeah go ahead but don't they like not know how it works i don't know i'm not gonna look into it yeah but thank god we have it oh my god they used to do it they used to do it just do it they used to just do it yeah there was nothing they're like we don't know what do you mean so you don't feel anything just that's not gonna straps you gotta cut that bullet out of you yeah yeah it's gotta come out and then you just drink some alcohol or they try and like yeah put something on you or yeah i guess that yeah i think i think there was a lot of there was a period where they would just tell you they were giving you something oh my god that would work kind of good But yeah, I couldn't. Yeah. I don't know.

That'd be a sad. Yeah. But it also, you always feel like it should be better. I hear it. I hear it is better. That like the anesthesia is better. That's at least what he was telling me. A doctor. So the second time.

It's like an easier trip. It's like a more. That's what he says. Like there's been a lot of advances. I think you'd really enjoy it. yeah you wouldn't have the experience that you had those other times yeah and i was like uh i'll just do one more awake i'll do the next time yeah oh and then i had one i had a impacted wisdom tooth yeah it was like sideways yeah and uh that was another one they wanted to wisdom tooth yeah it was like sideways yeah and uh that was

another one they wanted to go out and i was like no no and so they you know he numbs it and he this guy looked like john crook i'll never forget him but he told me you know like if anything uh like if if you ever start to feel anything or whatever just let me know and then uh he's like if you need a second and then there was one point in the surgery he was doing something and i was like can i get a second he was like no yeah like he was right in the middle of like cracking it out yeah yeah that was the that was an experience that my mom wouldn't let them give me anesthesia why when i got my wisdom teeth out i think she was like worried that i don't know okay i would i think she was worried that i would get like addicted to. I think she was like worried that, I don't know. Okay. I would, I think she was worried that I would get like addicted to something.

I think she was like very afraid that I was like susceptible to like addiction in some way. Because I'd been like caught smoking weed or something. Okay. So like, yeah, she, I went in for the like, you know, whatever the pre, you know, the briefing was. And the guy was like, we're going to knock you out. Take your wisdom teeth out. You'll go home. You'll be fine. And my brother had gotten him out. It was fine. He was like running around later that day.

And I went in there and they like, when I got there for the surgery, the guy was like, yeah, that guy's like a bit of a cowboy. We're not doing that. And I was like, okay. And I thought I was awake the entire time. it's like you're numbed up but you can still feel them like cut open your gums reach in i was hearing them just like crack yeah it's crazy yeah yeah knock me out but i was saying that ever since you you mentioned having like a fear of just passing out yeah and now like i i think the possibility of that happening never entered my mind and now i like like before i'm going on stage there a lot of times you're like man that'd be nuts if i just passed out sorry to do that to you but possible the reason why that's such a problem for me in like these big open spaces and it's like big oh like not outside but like is because it has the same like sound

and the distance to the sound of when you're passing out from anesthesia it's like you can't quite hear it but you hear stuff but it's all muffled. Like being in a mall, it's like, and then my body starts going, well, I'm passing out. And so I start to like get into panic. Yeah. And so like being on a stage in like a huge thing where you're like, you know, what is it? Your proprioception or whatever it is. It's just like things are so farception or whatever it is it's just like

things are so far yes but yet it's contained and it just it throws my fucking balance off that's a fascinating thing yeah the the idea that like your brain like your brain's ability to like this like that therefore yes you're going out yes but it's also like this, like that. Therefore. Yes. You're going out. Yes. But it's also like, it's like what's happening under anesthesia is like your brain is like its ability to like locate sounds is just getting weaker because of the anesthesia. Right. And then now you're just associating that with big spaces is bananas. Yeah.

Terrifying. Yeah. There was like a long period of time where i couldn't go into like a mall or 30th street station yeah and i remember that because i kept trying to bring you to hockey games and you're like no fucking way right yeah you're like they're fun the tickets are six bucks yeah like i'll just be not a chance hair raising yeah seat gripping what's reality you know like that sort of um but yeah that that one book if anybody's struggling with some some anxiety and everybody's different whatever works for you but that book dare that was like you try and run to the sensations

and sort of goad them to get worse so i went to like 30th street i would stand there and i'd be like okay just living it give it to me yeah make me pass out you know make me dizzier make me feel like reality's weirder than it is and just like how many times did you do that i was like going a lot to see my i went twice like without any purpose and then i was going to see my niece and nephews so it got me in there enough and typically what i would do is i'd wait outside till i saw my train start to load and then i'd be like and you know my hands are like patterning in yeah and i'd have a like panic attack as i was like going down yeah uh but then i just i would be like stay in there and da da da and now it's it's you know there's a lot of areas I can go, but being on stage, like, you know,

when we were doing the premiere, that was like, yeah, a lot. And also, I'm not good at talking. So it's, you know, it's like, what are we? But you are good at talking. No. I think it's just about feeling comfortable. Yeah. You are good at talking.

I can talk. You talk all day. day great i'm a decent talk you're a great talker yeah yeah i feel like it's just i feel like it's it's all the variables of a thing like that like that's what stressed me like like doing stand-up to me is you know obviously some environments are more stressful than others, but it's mostly like, because I know what it is and because I know I'm like, it's just me. And I kind of know what the dynamic is supposed to be. Like it's not stressful, but being on that stage for the Netflix, I wasn't as on it as long as you, but I still was just like, it's stressful because it's like, there's so many variables. I'm in like a new,

I don't know what this world is like. I don't know what the, the TV premiere is like. I don't know what you're supposed to say, what you can't say. Right. Like there's like, there's yeah. And there's a lot of people on the stage. There's some people on the stage. I don't know. You know what I mean? It's just like, I don't know what it's supposed to. To me, it also felt like, and I understand it,

but the, the general idea, given that you have such powerhouse comedians on that stage is just to be funny. Yeah. And what I could do is like, talk about the show. Like if,

like if you want me to tell you like a behind the scenes story or sort of like my thought process or the history of the show, it's like, that's all stuff I could talk about, but it's not going to come out funny. I don't have that. Yeah. And there's also a sincerity to those comments that feels like anathema to like a comedy performance. Sure. You're like, yeah, you're up there. What feels like a comedy environment. And you'd like, you want to talk really sincerely about like what it means for you to be there and like how, what a struggle the whole thing was. It's just like, yeah. We're like, oh, this is like a thing acting wise that I, I like a picked up halfway choice.

Yeah. Yeah. John was like, slow this down, you know, then slowing down how I respond and really try, you know, it's like reacting, trying to really feel what the other person's saying before deciding how to respond. You know, those are really interesting. They sound pretentious. Of course. But they are so much fun to get to do.

Yeah. And like that one scene in particular, when Shane, I think it was in the third episode, he comes back from asking Dave, are we closing that? I think that was shot as like a pickup later. And that was one that it really, it felt like I was feeling what he was making, trying to make me feel. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, oh, okay.

And it was just a, well, I guess this is why I shouldn't have been talking about this on stage regardless. Why? I don't know. It is interesting. But it's like, I don't know what the thing was. It's like, I don't know what flipped.

I guess, you know, here's what I could say. I have like a bag of tricks, which is like, you you know sort of like a that yeah yeah and so especially in the first one that we ever shot yeah which we put online then took down in favor of the uh the one that was online for a while that one was very me at like playing that yeah just a heightened level for eight minutes. Yeah.

And in retrospect, I know I talked to you about this. It's like, this is the wrong move. It's you want. Yeah. You see. No, no, no. I agree. You're like, you're like it for, for a short condensed thing.

It works. But like over the, over a longer form piece, it's like, you just got an annoying guy. Right. Right. Right. but like over the over a longer form piece it's like you just got an annoying guy right right right because like you need those moments of like truly processing what somebody's saying as opposed to trying to flip the switch and like be the thing that you think is funny yeah and uh yeah i just the whole but that stuff fascinates me yeah yeah it is interesting it's the same way like i don't know you have those moments on stage doing stand-up too where it's like you have times where you're like delivering material you've done a million times but you're so fucking in it yeah that you're like really saying it for the first time again you know and it's like that's a thing that you chase when you are especially

when you have those other shows where you feel like you are just sort of like reciting your you know your presentation sure so it's the same idea you know it's like there's getting feeling that feeling of like feeling like you're actually responding to someone and genuinely reacting is a thing that you chase yeah it's like a it is it's the golf swing thing yeah it's like hitting hitting a good golf it's the same feeling it is i want to be in that zone and and then the the beauty of that is you could contrast that sort of genuine feel with a purely mechanical acting choice like i was telling you the jeff daniels story which i think is so funny when they when they uh he was talking about in speed when he climbs through the window did i tell you this no when he climbs through the window do you

remember the scene no so jeff daniels plays a swat yes yes yes yes gets called to a house climbs through a window and he's got to look at a thermostat and register in his head that it's a bomb and he's about to die right right yeah and he's like he told this on rich eisen and he's like the day of the shoot i'm trying to how am i going to do this what am i going to which is hilarious that he's like thinking about it the day you know yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. And he remembered Roy, is it Schroeder? Schneider. Schneider from Jaws? Yeah.

They'd asked him one time, what did you, how did you feel? What, like when you saw Jaws the first time, your face, you know, it was this unbelievable thing. What did you feel? They're expecting something like what I just said about reacting and whatever. He's like, well, I held a little tension in my jaw. And when i saw i looked i saw i just let it out and it's like jeff daniels is like that's what i did i just i looked i held some tension in my in my cheeks i'm sorry yeah he's like and i look i see a thermostat i drop my cheeks cut that's it one take and everybody's like it's just so like you get genius yeah yeah so it could

be like whatever you need to do to get it yeah um but i find that fascinating because i love watching great acting i just i'm like the type of guy that will be like i i don't know what the fuck they just said because i'm more keyed into like body language and how they're. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah. I just, I just rewatched that movie hunger.

Okay. With Michael Fassbender. It's like an hour and a half long movie. That's like almost totally silent except for like a 20 minute, like entirely uncut scene between this. It about like this irish oh the priest yeah yeah priest conference and it's like dude the the the pat like the the speed at which they're going back and forth and the delicacy of every interaction is like fascinating yeah like nailing this as hard as they're nailing it and it feeling natural and

they're like there's like some things that feel like they're like they're like purely athletic moves like smacking like smacking a cigarette pack across the table and having it land right in the middle of this 20 minute chunk sure is like and you know i'm sure on the day of they probably just got lucky or something but it still was just like dude this the effortlessness at which he hit it that like where it looks like all of this stuff is happening he's like he's smoking a specific amount of cigarettes he's delivering these lines and and like it's crazy like there's lines delivered based off of him ending a cigarette that required him to smoke that cigarette at a certain speed to get there

while also doing all of this other shit. It's like, how could you possibly hold all that shit in your head? Or were there, you know, I don't know. That stuff is fascinating. I'll have to go watch that. Yeah. But yeah yeah we did it it's over how do you feel i ruined your no it's great yeah it's great thank you uh no thank you for doing this i truly love you yeah i love you too man um you. I just wish I gave you a better...

Wish I built you a better ship, Rose. Dude, that was great. It's not Chris's fault. Anybody's got something to say. Let me say this. You guys still got to do sit-ups. Anybody's got something bad to say about this episode, this is the guy you say it about.

Not him. No, no. I'm a hard person to talk to. People are going to love this episode, I think. I really do. I believe that. I believe that in my heart. I'm going to describe it for anybody listening.

This should be in the shot if I move this table. We got a Bowflex gizmo there? I don't know. It was a weight That came with the house Oh it's from a bow flex Yeah Yeah Let's get that lower back

Touching the ground Yeah lower back Touching the ground Okay If I go all the way down That's all Yeah Holy shit

I can't He really It does look Ugh I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I can't I look. I can't do it. It's insane. You're actually trying.

I'm trying. What's going on? I can't do it. My body doesn't like. What? How? How can it. I don't know.

Oh my goodness. I'm really enjoying that. Because you're so athletic. It's just like. I'm really enjoying that. Because you're so athletic. I just can't do it. It took me four years of really trying to do sit-ups to be able to do 20 sit-ups on my own. That's so weird. It's got to be some sort of body composition. Weird ass.

You're missing a muscle. Okay. Wow. But I've seen you rotate with your lacrosse swing and which is your golf swing right now, which is the problem, but your core is totally activated. Yeah. All right. Well, to anybody listening, that is real deal.

It looked like an old guy. I know. Trying to get out of... Yeah. Wow. I got you. Dude, when I get out of bed in the morning, I got to roll sideways. I can't just sit up. If I ever need I got you. Dude, when I get out of bed in the morning, I got to roll sideways. I can't just sit up. If I ever need to kill you. Yeah.