Stuff You Should Know - Halitosis: Worst Smell Ever?
Episode Date: April 24, 2014Occasional bad breath is one thing, halitosis is another. Or is it? From its odd origins as a marketing ploy to modern weight loss diets that can induce this embarrassing condition, you can learn all ...about bad breath here. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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You realize some people might, this might be the first episode they listen to and they've already
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Right. I can imagine so. I don't claim to be one of those people. Man oh man this is getting
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for it because there's not one. That's okay. I got a few of those in the hopper that I'd like to do.
I do too. Yeah. I just haven't been able to get around to them. You've been lazy. No. I've been
busy. I said we. Are you ready? Yeah. Are you familiar with halitosis? Hold on I've got a
little intro for this. Okay. You've heard the word halitosis obviously. Yes. We're about to do an
episode on halitosis so I hope so. Yes. But even before this you've heard the word halitosis.
Yes. Bad breath. It's like a clinical term for bad breath and that is true and it always was
a clinical term for bad breath but the reason Chuck that you and I know that the word halitosis
means bad breath is thanks to a nice little marketing scheme by the three guys who ran
the company that made Listerine back in the 1920s. Yeah. We've talked about Dr. Joseph Lister before
and that Listerine was an antiseptic surgical antiseptic. Yes. And that's and it was marketed
as a surgical antiseptic and then a household antiseptic. Yeah. And then they said, you know
what? We need to expand our market share. So let's get into other markets. And so they said
mouthwash. We'll start telling people to use it as mouthwash. And they made like their office
and turn put some in his mouth. Right. Swish it around. He died. Yeah. So they went and reformulated
it a little bit. Added a little water. Right. And then bang. Boom. They had Listerine the
mouthwash. The problem was is they said, well nobody's going to just start using a mouthwash
for no good reason. Yeah. We have to appeal to their low self-esteem. And that's what they did
by looking through a medical dictionary, finding the word halitosis and saying that's it. Yeah.
It's an age old trick in ads is to prey upon your, your, uh, how bad you feel about yourself
on a daily basis. Yeah. And especially using a medical jargon, Michelle Foucault called it
the medical gaze, where it was basically like if you add something that sounds medically to a problem
that your product can, can take care of, you, you've got gangbusters right there. Yeah. And it
was an archaic term, Latin term that had gone away completely. Yeah. It comes from the Latin
halitus for breath and the Greek suffix osis, which is used to indicate abnormality or a disease
state. Yeah. But pre Listerine, people weren't walking around saying the word halitosis. It
had gone the way of the dota was a word. No. And even still it was kind of like people weren't
really doing a lot to take care of their breath. Anyway, it wasn't a thing until this group from
the Listerine company said we're going to make it a thing and we're going to make using mouthwash
to combat this thing, a thing. And they did within a decade. It was just basically like,
that's what you did. You use mouthwash every morning. Yeah. And they, um, I thought it was
pretty funny. And where'd you get that cracked? Yeah, cracked. Yeah. It was a great article.
And they said they went on to use other words, uh, in advertising later on, like homotosis,
which is, if you didn't have a tractor furniture and, uh, bromodosis, if you had smelly feet.
Yeah. And I don't think those, they didn't catch on as well. Not like halitosis. For some reason,
halitosis did catch on. And as a result, uh, there are people out there who have halitophobia.
Yeah. I'm one of them. Oh yeah. Not like, I don't need to see a shrink, but, um, my first girlfriend
had halitosis. Yeah. And I think I can say that because I don't think she listens and I don't
think she knows she was my first girlfriend. Okay. Like I never said, you're my first girlfriend.
Right. But yeah, she had bad, and I say halitosis, uh, to me, there's a difference between everyone
gets bad breath occasionally, but there's a certain tang that's very identifiable, uh,
that I call halitosis. Yeah. She had it. And I, you know, felt like I had to kiss her and stuff.
This was my first girlfriend. I had to learn how to do that, John. Yeah, man. And it was,
I have, uh, dreams to this day, halitosis, kissing dreams. Do you really? That I like,
we'll see some like gorgeous girl in my dream and I'll go to kiss her and she has like this
awful rotten breath. Like it's a recurring dream. So I guess I have halitophobia. I'm very aware of
it in it. That's why I have a tongue scraper and all that junk. Well, apparently that's one way to
treat it. Yeah. Oh, we're getting ahead of ourselves. So spoiler. And I, I should say, I have had a
mild case of halitophobia. It may or may not have been warranted. I don't know. I have my own
microphone cover for that reason. I know, but it's not because you're protecting other people from
your halitosis, right? You don't want your nose and other people's stuff, right? Yes. Okay. Because
the microphone cover at one point smelled really bad and I got revolted and I ordered one the next
day. Right. So halitophobia refers to your fear of your bad breath. You fearing other people's
bad breath. Yeah. Yeah. That's a different thing then. Okay. Yeah. No, I was worried I had bad breath.
I guess part of me like, I have that concern because of other people's bad breath about myself
too though, I think that's why I'm like manic about brushing my tongue. Oh yeah. That's where I
really got it. I sat next to a movie. I sat next to some dude in a movie theater once and like,
he was facing forward. I was facing forward and I almost couldn't sit next to him the whole time
because it was that bad. You should have moved. I don't know why I didn't. Yeah, that's become my
go-to. Self punishing, I guess. No, I used to do that. Like at concerts, I always said that I would
just always 100% of the time be next to the most obnoxious drunk in the place. Oh yeah, right.
And it used to just bother me and get under my skin, but then I was like, you know what,
I'm just going to start moving. Yeah, this didn't make me like, I wasn't mad at the guy. I felt
horrible for him almost to the point where like, I was going to get in my car and follow him home
and then like after he got into his house, I was going to come in after him and then sit him down
and then maybe we'd have like some milk or something. Sure. Get him all calmed down,
let him sleep and then when he woke up the next morning, I'd still be sitting at his kitchen
table and then I would say to him, I have something to tell you. And then I would say,
you have really bad breath, man. And he'd say, no crap, dude. I have a condition.
Well, that's why you don't necessarily want to say anything to anybody because they may. Yeah.
So let's get down to this. Garlic, onions, these are the things that people frequently associate
halitosis with. Yeah, which is a bunch of BS. Well, no, I mean, like it can give you bad breath.
Yeah, but that to me, that's the temporary bad breath that one gets just from food.
Yeah. And the reason why you do get bad breath from say like onions in particular is because
or garlic, I'm sorry, garlic contains something called allicin, which in the stomach is converted
to allyl methyl sulfide, which is not metabolized and which comes back up as gas from your gut.
So when you have bad breath from onions, it's not onion particles in your mouth still. Yeah.
That's gas leaking out of your gut into your mouth and just kind of stick in there for a
couple hours. You ever take garlic pills? Yeah. It's weird. They're, they, yeah. I just rather
eat garlic any day of the week. Yeah. I mean, I eat tons of garlic. I love it. But I have taken
garlic pills in the past year and there and I will forget that I've taken one. And then you
burp up like, I have lasagna and not for breakfast, but it doesn't taste like good garlic. It tastes
awful. It's medicinal garlic. I didn't find, I mean, the pill didn't taste like anything,
but my burps definitely taste like garlic. See, it was, for me, I always, I just thought it was
different. It tasted different. Yeah. I just rather like cut the top off of a whole bulb of
garlic. Yeah. Put some olive oil on it. Yeah. Wrap it in foil or put it in your clay garlic
baker. Yeah. And put it in the oven for a little while and chow down, baby. Yeah. Just squeeze
those things right into your mouth. Yeah. So good. Yeah. And so good for you. We are in sync today.
So you say you, you, your bed is that you don't, your garlic and onions don't count to you. Well,
how is hostess? No, I think there, there is bad breath you can just have because maybe you forgot
to brush or obviously morning breath, which we'll get to. And then I think some people unfortunately
are have a constant state of this very specific bad breath. Yeah. So I think one in four people
have actual halitosis, right? That seems a little high, but maybe people are just doing a good job
of masking it. Maybe so. But some people aren't. So what it comes down to ultimately Chuck. Yeah.
Halitosis is as simple as the bacteria in our mouth. Yeah. The fact that we have bacteria,
it's the same thing as our armpits, why they smell bacteria breaking down stuff from our bodies
beneficially into stinky little gases. Yeah. And giving off little bacteria to
you. Yeah. The average person has 800 types of bacteria in the mouth. And they don't need like
it's good thing they don't tell kids stuff like this growing up in school because
French kissing probably wouldn't happen, you know? Well, well, then maybe they should tell kids in
school there, but it's really kind of a disgusting thing. Like you don't see people licking armpits.
Some people might. Ben Stiller. Yeah. What was that in? Was it Ben Stiller who was into it?
No, I saw it. Or was it a movie? Right. Yeah. I've seen that. Floating with disaster. Ben Stiller
movie. Floating with disaster. But I can't remember if it was Ben Stiller who was into it or if it was
wife was into it. I know it was Josh Brolin was into Patricia Arquette's armpits. That's right.
Okay. Yeah. And Patricia Arquette was married to Ben Stiller, that's what. Yeah. And she let
him licking armpits. What a weird movie that was. I love that movie. You can't catch the wind.
You remember that part? Yeah. All right. Back to the mouth and how disgusting it is.
They say if you magnify just a single cell on the surface of that tongue,
you would see about 100 types of bacteria. Right. Just on that cell. So this bacteria,
when you eat and you swallow food after masticating it, which isn't dirty, it means two.
Yeah. You leave little particles in your mouth. It gets stuck in your teeth. Maybe if you have
beginning periodontal disease, it might get stuck in your gums along your teeth a little bit.
The very least it's going to get stuck to the back of your tongue and it just kind of sits there
and the bacteria in your mouth love this stuff. It's food to them and they break it down into
particles and particles and they're like, this is pretty good, but I can't get the energy from it
fully. So I'm going to break down the amino acids even further. And then bam, when I do,
I'm going to basically emit sulfur, sulfuric gases. Yeah. And that's where bad breath comes
from. There's sulfuric gases that are again, a byproduct of the bacteria eating the food
particles in your mouth. Yeah. Left over proteins. Yeah. And it's the mouth is a, you know,
it's a great breeding ground for it because it's clammy and warm and it's just got everything that
the bacteria loves to produce those stinky, stinky smells. But dry mouth can also cause
halitosis because that's what you get overnight and why you have stinky morning breath. Right.
Because your saliva production decreases when you sleep. Otherwise you'd just be a drooling mess.
I wonder why that doesn't work during naps on your school desk. I don't know. I guess
because you don't go to sleep enough, maybe, or if like your face is pressed against wood,
it's a signal to your body to increase saliva production. Yeah. Wake up. The teacher's coming.
All right. But chronic dry mouth is something that can affect people during the daytime as well.
It's called xerostomia. And if you have xerostomia, you're going to have a harder time fighting your
bad breath because your mouth is always dry. Like the mouth, the saliva just acts as a natural
mouthwash. Right. Exactly. It not only rinses away like food particles. It rinses away bacteria.
It rinses away the dead skin cells and dead mouth cells that the bacteria also eat.
And yeah, the drier it is, the less that action takes place. Yeah. And you got stinky breath.
Yeah. So if you're on antihistamines or antidepressants or painkillers,
dry mouth is a side effect of some of those drugs. So you might have a harder time.
And if you're sick anyway, you're going to have stinky your breath too. Like if you're fighting a
sinus infection, let's say, it's gross. Yes. Because stinky breath. Because that mucus
trickles back from your sinuses down to your tongue and sits there and gets eaten up to nasty
stuff. It is. This whole thing, I'm just cringing. I'm going to have one of those dreams tonight.
There's, you could, a stinky halitosis breath dream. Yes. The hot girl, bad breath. It's always
the same. Does Emily know you're having dreams about kissing hot girls with bad breath? Yeah.
She thinks it's funny. She thinks it's because of my repressed religious upbringing, repressed
sexuality. Like I won't even in my dreams allow myself to kiss the model. That's hilarious.
Like she'll have, I call it vomit tongue. It's so gross. Oh yeah. That is pretty bad. Yeah.
They're the worst dreams. I can't explain to you because they're really headed in the right
direction at first, you know, and it's terrible. And when you're an old married man, that's all you
got. I got, you know, vomit tongue. No, just, you know, your dreams can't be. I know it's me. I'm
just teasing. Can't be assaulted for having a dream. I guess you could, but that's not a very
nice wife. That give me my dream time. Right. I'm going to sleep. I'm down a slippery slip right
now. Let's pull out with the ketoacidosis man. Okay. So Chuck, when you have,
when you eat onions, when you have garlic, when you have food particles, all this stuff,
that's normal bad breath stuff. There's also other things, metabolic things often
that can give you like a different type of breath. It may or may not be bad. One bad one
is if you have liver problems, your liver shutting down, you're going to have what's
called mousy breath. Can you imagine what mousy breath smells like? No. Like apparently your
breath smells like live writhing mice. Interesting. Mousy breath. I can't think of what else it would
denote. I don't know what a mouth smells like. Sure. I mean, have you ever smelled like a rodent
cage? Yeah, but they smell like cedar and poop. Is that what it smells like? So they mean cedar.
So is ketoacidosis the no carb effect? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that is something that we'll warn you
about. If you are trying to attain what's known as ketosis with like an Atkins type diet,
some people when they are reached that blissful level of fat burning, it also takes the,
it's told on their mouth and their breath. Yeah. It's like a fruity acetone smell.
Okay. That sounds better than mousy. Yeah, it's better than mousy. Yeah. Yeah. When you're in
ketosis, when you deprive your body of carbohydrates, it doesn't have that energy to burn right there.
So it starts turning inward and going after your fat stores. And when the body burns stored fat
ketones are what is released as energy or burned as energy. Stinky ketones.
And this, yeah, it's the smell from burning ketones is what gives you that fruity breath.
Yeah. I've seen websites, you know, that they now have the articles, of course, if you're,
if this is the diet you want, this is how you can help yourself. Right.
And one of the things that's always eat bread. It's like, yeah, but all of a sudden you're not
on that diet. Right. Yeah. So that's no solution. Yeah. You can get knocked out of ketosis pretty
easy. I'm sure. Yeah. I think eating bread would do it. Well, I guess we should talk about
after a message break, maybe how you can help yourself out. Okay. If you have halitosis.
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All right. So let's say you are sadly just one of those people that just has that
funky breath. One in four, right? Yeah. If you're among that 25%. That does seem high.
Yeah, doesn't it? And that's like chronic halitosis, right? Yeah. Where it's not just like,
you know, brushing your teeth isn't going to do the trick. 25%. Yeah. That sounds like a fact
brought to us by the Listerine Company. It might be. But like I said, maybe 15% of those people
are really trying their hardest so you don't notice it. And other people are just smoking
cigarettes and drinking coffee all day. Which is a bad combination. Yeah, it's pretty bad combination.
Does somehow they become greater than the sum of their parts, you know? Yeah. But that's breakfast
for college students, you know? Sure. Coffee and cigarettes. So what do you do if you're going
to battle this stuff? If it's more than just something like just a breath mint can handle,
what's going to happen here? Well, the breath mint, it's a good thing to mention that. That can
provide a little temporary relief, but it's just masking the funk underneath. Right. So you're
really not going to get very far as a solution. No, because all it's doing is creating the sensation
of freshness in your mouth. Yeah. Because it, I get, I don't know what breath mints do. I've
frequently wondered, like what is like menthol do? Yeah. Does it open up your pores so like the
air feels colder and fresher? Oh, I don't know. Like what creates that sensation? You don't know?
Yeah. That's like a don't be dumb episode to me, buddy. I think it might be. What you want to do
is get to the root of the problem, which is that bacteria. And like we said, food particles in your
teeth is a big cause. So brushing and flossing and the old tongue scraper and brushing the back
of the tongue. You scraped the tongue? Oh yeah. Doesn't that make you gag? No, it doesn't bother me.
I've gotten used to it. I mean, you know, occasionally if I overreach that might be a little. But
I'm not like retching in the bathroom every morning. I think we should keep a webcam in your
bathroom when you're getting ready just to catch those times that you do. Yeah. Yeah. Just make a
vine compilation. Yeah. That'd be hilarious. So attacking the source of the food particles. And
you know, I have the fake tooth now. So I have to be extra careful to really brush along there,
because why I think it would be like they've made it out of some new super polymer that
reflects bacteria. No, the tooth itself is not the source, but it's, you know,
where it meets the gum is not a natural tooth. So I just have to like really brush the crap out of
that area of my gum, you know. Get the crap out. I don't use mouthwash though, which is interesting.
Yeah. No, I just do toothpaste. Well, apparently it's not necessarily and plenty of mouthwash is
a suggestion for this specifically types that contain according to the British Medical Journal,
chlorohexadrine, gluconate, chlorohexadrine, gluconate are what you want because they kill
bacteria. I take issue with this. Yeah. One of the main functions of mouthwash isn't to just go
in and kill bacteria, although most mouthwashers do that. Yeah. It's the swishing action loosens
food particles and gets them out from in between your teeth. So you should mouthwash before you
brush. What I'm saying is, is you don't necessarily need to use a mouthwash that kills bacteria,
because you kind of want healthy bacteria. Sure. You want what's called an oral ecosystem.
That sounds so gross. A healthy oral ecosystem or ecology in your mouth.
You want, remember the poop shake episode? Yeah. The poop transplant, fecal transplant episode.
Yeah. We ended up talking about the microbiome. Yeah. And how important it is to humanity.
Sure. Same thing with our mouth. Yeah, you don't want to kill all that bacteria. No,
and there's plenty of bacteria that causes problems like streptococcus mutans is what
gives us cavities. Yeah. But there's also plenty of beneficial bacteria where you would have a
mouthful of dead skin cells all over your tongue. If it weren't for this helpful bacteria,
breaking the stuff down. It's your problem. Everybody wants to kill bacteria. Yeah. That's
not necessarily a good thing. As a matter of fact, I think we're learning more and more that it's
not a good thing. So I say avoid the mouthwash that kills bacteria and just use some sort of
mouthwash that maybe has a minty flavor, but it's just really just swishing the food particles
out and getting rid of the bacteria's food that's creating their stinky sulfur ducts.
Yes, exactly. And because getting rid of the food is a big part of it, I would suggest brushing
your teeth after lunch too, you know, like don't make it just when you get up and before you go
to bed. I say go for three times a day. Whoa, man. Who has time for that? Everybody. Another
good trick is to drink a lot of water. Just keeping your mouth hydrated on a daily basis
is going to help. You said that saliva is like a natural mouthwash. Water helps. It does the same
thing. Loosens food particles. Yeah. Gets rid of dead skin cells. And the back of your tongue
apparently is like ground zero for it. Yeah. Like I think there's like 20 times more bacteria
there than elsewhere because it's like this bumpy surface that's out of the way of all this other
stuff. Yeah. So things really stick and accumulate back there. Yeah. So that's the, that's an area
you want to target apparently with the tongue scraper. Yeah. And you could just brush it as
well. I do both, but if you are a grown adult and you are not either brushing your tongue or using
a tongue scraper, then you're not doing it right. Is that right? Yeah. Somebody needs to teach you.
I give a quick like a quick, you know, brush with my toothbrush over my tongue, but I worry
about killing taste buds. Like I love tasting things. You're not going to kill any taste buds.
Sure. You can kill taste buds with that. Well, I haven't killed any. Are you sure? Think about
what kind of a super taster you could be without your tongue scraper. Yeah. No, I do worry about
that. I'm kind of like, I'd rather have low level bad breath and be able to taste great stuff than
have no bad breath whatsoever and not be able to taste. I would rather have no bad breath and
still taste everything. Well, yeah, that's the holy grail. What kind of like flim flam world are
you living in? It's called Chuck's life. It's nice. It is nice. If none of this stuff works
for you, you may have a problem. Like you might want to go see a dentist and maybe even a doctor.
Well, yeah, the dentist might say. Go to the doctor. Yeah, go to the doctor because you
have a mousy breath, which means your liver's shutting down and find a new dentist. You know,
there's a smell test that they do that dentists do. Oh, really? Yeah. What they'll do is still say,
okay, this is going to be gross, but I want you to breathe through your mouth and I'm going to sniff
close to your mouth. Wow. And then they say, okay, now I want you to breathe through your nose
and I'm going to sniff close to your nose and they can determine whether it's a nasal and like a
problem in your nasal cavity that can give you bad breath. You can have stinky nays and sinuses.
So gross. Or if it's in your mouth and then they can further deduce like, yeah, if it's not a dentist
doing this. Yeah. And if it's in your, if it's coming through your nose, it suggests possibly not
just your sinuses, but it could be pulmonary too. Like you could have some sort of lung problem
that's creating gases that stink and are coming out of your nose rather than your mouth. So I guess
they train you to do that in dental school, huh? I guess. I could have to. That's not a very popular
day. No. You know, everybody pair up. Oh my God. And there's the one guy in the corner like eating
a sandwich. Yeah. It's like, what? Can I give two more tips? Yeah, please. Give 10 more.
If you eat a crunchy breakfast, like granola cereal or something like that,
okay, it's going to clear out a lot of the gunk from the night before. Huh. You just want to
make sure you get rid of all those food particles afterwards. Okay. And then if you're interested
in a mouthwash that is not antibacterial really, certainly not harmful. You take a half a cup
of warm water, an eighth of a teaspoon of cinnamon, and one teaspoon of honey. Swirl it all together
and swish it around and gargle it. That's like old-timey mouthwash apparently. Yeah. And we could
probably recommend apple cider vinegar just for anything. That's like the wonder liquid it seems
like. I'm Mangesh Atikular and to be honest, I don't believe in astrology, but from the moment I
was born, it's been a part of my life. In India, it's like smoking. You might not smoke, but you're
going to get second hand astrology. And lately, I've been wondering if the universe has been
trying to tell me to stop running and pay attention because maybe there is magic in the stars if you're
willing to look for it. So I rounded up some friends and we dove in and let me tell you,
it got weird fast. Tantric curses, Major League Baseball teams, canceled marriages, K-pop. But
just when I thought I had a handle on this sweet and curious show about astrology,
my whole world can crash down. Situation doesn't look good. There is risk to father.
And my whole view on astrology, it changed. Whether you're a skeptic or a believer,
I think your ideas are going to change too. Listen to Skyline Drive and the iHeart Radio app,
Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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podcasts. Dude, I was once on my way to a full blown kidney or maybe urinary infection. Some
bladder infection something was going on and it was starting to go downhill fast. And Yumi was
like, drink this and drink a lot of it. And I started drinking apple cider vinegar and raw
cranberry juice, like the real cranberry juice. Over about an eight to twelve hour period,
like really hit it and gone. And it was happening. The happening was going on and I thwarted it.
He stopped the happening? Yeah. I do a shot every morning now of apple cider vinegar.
Oh, vinegar. Yeah. And don't get the stuff in the store that you should be cooking and cleaning
with. I can't remember the brand, but there's the super potable one. The one that you'll find
at a health food store? Yeah. I can't remember the name of it, but there's like one brand that
everyone goes to. Right. And it's tough, man. If you ever just do a straight shot of it without
diluting it, it's hardcore. Yeah. Yeah. Everything I was doing was taking maybe a shot and then
diluting it in like eight ounces of water and it's still very difficult. Yeah. You can do it though,
especially when you're fighting off some sort of infection. Yeah. And you want to brush your
teeth after that because vinegar smells gross. Just brush your teeth all the time. Yeah. If you
want to learn more about halitosis, I don't know what more you could possibly learn, but you can
try. You can type that word into the search bar at howstuffworks.com and it will bring up this
article. And since I said search bar, it's time for listener mail. We're going to address our
April Fool's prank officially here with this one. I want to say first of all, Josh, you and Ben,
I was blown away by the performance. Thank you. Thank you. You guys sold it so hard, like,
and we just threw it together. We were like, Hey, let's just try. It wasn't some big
plot. There was no practice planned for weeks and weeks. Like, Hey, maybe we should do an
April Fool's joke this year. And I said, Hey, maybe I quit the show and Ben took my place.
And you guys just winged it and like nailed it, man. I was sitting here beside you and I felt
like I was watching my own funeral. Yeah, I know. It was weird. Yeah, you kept going like cut, cut,
stop, stop. We're like, no, we have to press on. So we're not jokesters typically, but it was,
I think it was our only one to be released on April Fool's Day. It was the first time we had the
opportunity to release one on April Fool's and look out two years from now because that'll be
a Thursday. Yeah. Yeah. But if we do like Josh left the show, everyone would be like, no, no, no,
or they'll be expecting that. Oh, yeah. And we'll do it. And they'll be like, well, wait a minute,
they thought that I would think that, you know, maybe we could just give you like, I don't know,
you could have a heart attack on the show or something. But anyway, we got an outpouring of
people because I was dead or missing. I know people really, really reacted to that. Like,
a lot of people said they didn't realize how much they needed you until you were gone. And yeah,
there were plenty of people who said like, Josh, if it had been you, we're felt the same way. But
well, I got to play the martyr. I got the plum roll. It was nice. It's like, I had to do nothing
and just get showered with attuation. But it was, it was very neat to see like, people were like,
never leave, don't ever do that again. And it was pretty cool, actually. Yeah. And also,
I want to say on behalf of Ben, he asked us to let everybody know whenever we could
that he actually was purposefully sounding terrible. Yes, he was. At what he was doing. He,
like that was play acting. Yeah. Yeah. The whole point was like, we wanted it to be super awkward.
Right. I think you guys achieved that. Okay. So, so go ahead. Back from the dead, Chuck.
So this is from Matt from Athens, Georgia. Go dogs. Hey guys, my girlfriend. I've been listeners
for years. I didn't realize just how important the show was to us though, until your April Fool's
Day show. I listened to the episode before she did. And he didn't even tell her. That's kind of mean.
He did. And I was keen on setting her up for the gag. So I sat her down at the kitchen table and
told her that stuff you should know, it's in big news. I knew she'd be sucked into the prank,
but was not prepared for what happened next. She started to cry and denounced the show with one of
you gone saying she would stop listening. She was worried about Chuck. I even had people are
worried about Emily. They were like, they thought Emily was in the hospital. It's awesome. Chuck
started, she said she would stop listening and was worried about Chuck and started tossing out
possible explanations like the best of conspiracy theorists. She was so sad that it had to fast
forward to the reveal. After her surprising, yet pretty cute reaction, I was hoping to swap out
her emotional connection for a birthday shout out. She's a contemporary dancer and uses the
ideas in your podcast and her classes in choreography think dances about Alan Turing.
I got to see this. Yeah, it's crazy. I admit this pretty crass way of getting a happy birthday,
but I think it's worth a shot. So Matt, you didn't tell us your girlfriend's name.
So we're just going to say happy birthday to Matt's girlfriend from Athens.
Happy birthday, Matt's girlfriend. I'm going to get to Jennifer.
Matt and Joey sleeping on the couch this evening. You know, we fooled some of our friends even. Joe
Randazzo texted me and said, you guys actually fooled me for about eight seconds. Is that right?
Yeah. Yeah, we got a lot of people who said like, I didn't fall for anything all day.
Yeah. And the only people who got me the stuff you should know.
It's because you guys just like destroyed it. And then the one who fooled me for a minute.
I thought I was like off the show. Do I have to leave? Yeah.
The ones that I felt bad about though were the ones who listened to it like after April 1st.
Yeah. Yeah. And we're like, like Australians. Yeah. They didn't realize it was the, it was,
yeah, exactly. But yes. So everyone, thank you very much for the outpouring of emotion. We both
feel very loved. Yeah. Sure. I mean, we know people like the show, but when you hear stuff like
that, it's like, wow, people kind of depend on this. And we know now that we're not allowed to
ever leave. Nope. It's we'll go out and murder suicide if anything. Cool. Agreed. So if you
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