Stuff You Should Know - How Coral Reefs Work

Episode Date: February 9, 2012

Coral reefs are the largest organic structures on Earth, yet they're created through a symbiotic relationship between creatures about 3 millimeters long. Learn more about the the world's coral reefs (...and how to protect them) in this episode. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:45 like what we would call a jack move or being robbed. They call civil acid work. Be sure to listen to The War on Drugs on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by the reinvented 2012 Camry. It's ready, are you? Welcome to Stuff You Should Know from HowStuffWorks.com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with me as always is Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and that makes this Stuff You Should Know. I just noticed your cold is cleared up. Yeah, a little bit. I still have an interior lining, a very thick
Starting point is 00:01:36 flab. Other than that, I'm fine. Yeah, you sound fine. That's all I care about. You know what it was? Tons of emergency used to wash down tons of vitamin B stress, which is like tons of just different vitamin Bs. I eat solar ray, and... Scotch. Single malt Scotch. Just my secret ingredient, and a lot of lysine. A couple of lysines every time, like thousands and thousands of percentages of daily value. It just makes the FDA cringe that I take this much. That's what I do. I just load up on everything.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Triple it. Yep, there you go. Take that body. So I'm fine. Good. Now, you me has it. Oh, does she? Oh, poor thing. Same exact thing. And she doesn't like when I tell her to take vitamins. Yeah, but that, you know, you live together, you drink after one another, you suck face. I'll leave like emergency here there, like laying around. Oh, did I leave that?
Starting point is 00:02:35 Oops, that's already dissolved in the water even. And it's going down your gullet. Chuck. Yes. Did you know that I am a certified scuba diver? I sure did. Oh, yeah, you did. I thought for sure you're going to be like, no, I didn't. No, we've talked about this. Yeah, and we've even scuba dived together, haven't we?
Starting point is 00:02:53 That's right. That was the first time I heard about it. I'm not the sharpest tack in the package. That's all right. But I say that to tell you that I was certified at a place called Islamowaris off the coast of Cozumel, which just so happens to also be the home of the second largest barrier reef. Oh, really? Known to man. What's it called?
Starting point is 00:03:15 Known to humans. I don't know. It is not called anything because there's the great barrier reef and then there's all the other all the other ones. Yeah, but this is the second largest, which is pretty big because there's a lot of barrier reefs. There's a lot of coral reefs in the world. But after reading this article, I found that there is a lot about coral reefs that I did
Starting point is 00:03:36 know. Fortunately, we had Jennifer Horton, who I'm sure you'll remember, worked at the site for a while. Yeah, she's a great writer. Great writer. We had it. We had her to explain it to us and like I get coral reefs now. In fact, Jennifer has written many of the animal related podcasts that we've done.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Octopi. Bison, I think, maybe. She wrote a lot of the animal stuff. Animal migration. Yeah. Lots of good ones. To miss you, Jennifer. Hope you're well.
Starting point is 00:04:06 If you listen. I wonder. Who are they? Right. You'll remember those guys. I hated those too. All right, coral reefs. This was all new to me.
Starting point is 00:04:14 The rainforest of the sea. Of the equatorial seas. Home to about 25% of all fish species. Yeah. That's crazy. In fact, the great barrier reef has more kinds of coral on one single little outcropping of it. Then you'll find in the entire tropical area of the Atlantic Ocean. Wow.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Yeah. That's amazing. I don't know why I just said that there. The Aussies are going to, they're going to be so stoked with this podcast. Probably. Anytime they can like claim to something like that, they're just like, yeah. Yeah. Drink.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Exactly. You're going to go pour beer on the great barrier reef. It's the coral reefs are very beneficial to humans in a number of ways. Yeah. Economically. Sure. Because there's a lot of sea life and thus people fishing for shrimp and lobster and things like that. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:09 And all sorts of weird ways, which we'll get to later. Yeah. They also protect the beach from erosion. They act as natural buffers from huge waves, wave action. That's right. These little tiny guys. Yeah. Well, let's talk about that because you think of when you think of coral, you think of huge,
Starting point is 00:05:27 you know, great barrier reef. It's enormous. Sure. It's like, I think there's 18,000 miles total of coral face. Wow. Face. That is crazy. On the great barrier reef.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Actually, an individual coral called a polyp is about three millimeters long. Yeah. That's small. Super tiny. For those of you in America. They are, well, science got it wrong early on. We should go ahead and say that they at one point, fairly understandably thought that it might be plant life because it sort of looks like it.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Yeah. Like, you know, like the coral fan. Yeah. That's a bunch of those little three millimeter corals building up into a fan. Yeah. It looks like a plant. Yeah. So they got it wrong.
Starting point is 00:06:13 And they're actually not only are they real living little sea creatures, but they're carnivores. Yeah. Which is, you know, you would never think about that. No, but they're in the phylum Sinidaria. Nidaria. Why would they put the sea there? It's silent, man.
Starting point is 00:06:31 You know, I appreciate a silent letter. I am smarter than my pronunciation would suggest. I started looking this up because I feel like an idiot. So they're in the phylum Nidaria, which means that they have stinging cells, barbed stinging cells called nematocysts. That's right. So they use this to capture their prey. But the prey kind of has to come to them because they're also sessile,
Starting point is 00:06:55 which means they're fixed to a certain spot. Yeah, sessile. Seriously? Yeah. So it is understandable also that they got it wrong because coral has a unique property. It is almost half plant because there's this algae in the cells. I want to pronounce it. Okay, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:07:15 It's called Zuzantholy. You're right. Okay, very nice. It starts with a Z and there's an X in there somewhere. Yeah, and then it ends in a E. So what happens with, there's a very mutually beneficial relationship between the algae and the polyp. They do a little exchange. The polyp itself will supply, I'm sorry, the algae will undertake photosynthesis.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Yes, as algae tends to do. As algae will do. And it will say, hey, Mr. Polyp, why don't you take all this stuff that I've made within your cell walls and convert it to proteins and fats. It poops out like amino acids. And carbs for the polyp. And in return, why don't you give me a nice shelter and you can also produce some carbon and nitrates and polyphates that I need to produce the photosynthesis to give
Starting point is 00:08:09 you the proteins and fats that you need. So it's what you might call a symbiotic relationship. Exactly. One's helping the other. And you can make the case that the coral is getting the better end of the deal, because the coral gets about 90% of the energy produced through photosynthesis by the zoosantholy. But that also makes the coral more dependent on the zoosantholy.
Starting point is 00:08:34 True. And the zoosantholy is an algae of very little needs. It's not needy. It's not grabby. It's not going to call you up every Friday wondering what you're doing and why you aren't here. Are you talking about me? No, no, no. Jerry, you like that one.
Starting point is 00:08:50 So the symbiotic relationship between the zoosantholy and the coral polyps also produce coral reefs. The polyps use some of that energy, some of that amino acid to create something called calcium carbonate. And that's the hard stuff, right? That's limestone, my friend. Boom. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:11 They produce limestone out of their buttocks to create a cup, a little shelter for the polyp to stay in. And since the algae stays in the polyp, it creates a shelter for both, right? Yeah. And this limestone secretion can keep building and building and building. Because again, coral stays in the same place. They're Cecil. That's right.
Starting point is 00:09:33 And as long as they're still secreting limestone, the limestone structure they build will just keep getting bigger and bigger eventually. Love it. That's just one three millimeter long coral. Yes. What you want to do is get thousands together. Strength in numbers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Then you have a coral fan. Yeah, or a colony. Yes. And then those colonies will eventually meet up with other colonies and say, hey, you guys interested in forming a reef? Because we're pretty indestructible, although that's not quite true. We're more indestructible if we all hook up, my brothers. Like you said, strength in numbers.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Yes. And when they hook up, their limestone secretions can start to join together forming a reef. Yeah. But they're also connected by a thin piece of tissue. You got this one? Call day. Scenic arc. That's what I was going to go for.
Starting point is 00:10:29 I was just tired of humiliating myself for this episode. I would have called it a conic arc. So I was way off. I'm really glad with that one. It's a sila can. Yeah, it's a scenic arc. And that's how the coral themselves are through limestone secretions and through this tissue called the scenic arc.
Starting point is 00:10:46 They're connected. Right. But how would they grow? Well, there's two ways, man. Okay. They can reproduce. Yeah. Couple of ways though, right?
Starting point is 00:10:56 Sexually or asexually. I know which one I choose. Asexual. Yeah. Because your cloning, that's pretty remarkable. Yeah. Anyone can just get together and mate. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Sexually, it's like, here's some sperm. And in other words, here's some eggs. And then they get together. And then there's not much to it. All right. Asexual though, they actually do divide and produce identical clones of themselves. And that's one way they can grow. And the other way is just to keep pooping out limestone.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Yeah. And that will connect with each other. And it just forms a big old, yummy wreath. Yeah. This is not a fast process though. Like if there's a couple of coral that are a few inches away, say three inches away. Yeah. And they're like, I would like to hook my senus arc up to your senus arc and let's poop some
Starting point is 00:11:50 limestone out together and get this wreath going. That's beautiful. It's going to take them about a year to get together. Can you imagine how frustrating that is? To be three inches away and be like, I'd really like to consummate this. Right. I'll see you next June. I'm not convinced that coral can experience frustration.
Starting point is 00:12:05 You don't think so? I don't. I think that's all they experience. Nothing but frustration. Either that or they're like really, really patient. But that three inches of growth a year has to take place under very specific conditions. Remember, we said that coral reefs are in equatorial waters. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Not the coral themselves, but the zoosantholy are actually very fickle and picky little organisms. And they like specific conditions. And as long as the conditions are right for them, then the coral can grow. Because remember, the coral are dependent on the zoosantholy to produce the calcium carbonate. That's right. So what are the conditions, Chuck? Well, you said equatorial specifically 30 degrees north or south.
Starting point is 00:12:49 If you have ever dived in the Bahamas and said, no, that's 32 degrees north. And they have plenty there. It's because the warm gulf waters spitting out toward the Bahamas, which is one reason the Bahamas is such a popular spot, I would imagine. Yes. I've never been there. You know, my folks drove my car back from the Bahamas though once. You had a car in the Bahamas?
Starting point is 00:13:14 You're supposed to say you're kidding. You're kidding. I must be the Bahamas or islands. So it's a dead milkman song. It's bitching Camaro. Oh, that's from bitching Camaro. Yeah, it's the beginning. Jeez, I'm a dummy.
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Starting point is 00:15:41 No, because if you've ever looked through, if you've ever been underwater and seen a lot of plankton everywhere, it filters the sunlight. It's dappled. That's right. And also, as we learn later, the more nutrients there are, the more it will attract competition for those nutrients. And that's not good for them either.
Starting point is 00:15:59 No, they don't like competition. Basically, they're just little prima donnas. This is anthill AR. The water, since you're near the equator, should be between 73.4 and 84.2 degrees Fahrenheit. Yeah. And ultimately, if you put all these factors together, ample light, clear water, and between 73 and 82 or 23 Celsius and 29 Celsius, you can get up to about 10 centimeters or 3.9 inches of growth in a year.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Twice as much on sunny days. Yes. This is remarkable. But they're still not going to exceed that 3.9 inches, most likely. No, because it's not going to be sunny all the time. But what's cool, then, is if you think, well, that's crazy. You know, there's some coral that I've seen coral reefs, and they're big. And if it takes a year to grow about 3.9 inches, say, horizontally or vertically,
Starting point is 00:16:54 maybe even diagonally, if it was like a crazy year for them. Sure. Sure. It must take thousands of years for coral reef to build up. You would be right, my friend, which is why scientists very affectionately consider coral reefs the old growth forests of the sea. Yeah. Because when you're looking at coral reef, you're looking at something thousands, if not tens of thousands of years old.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Which is why. My question is, how long does the coral live? So one thing I didn't get out of this article, did you? Oh, how each individual coral, each polyp? Right. Well, I don't know. And are there, are there, their cups, the protective cups that they secrete, are they inhabited by like successive generations, their clones maybe?
Starting point is 00:17:39 My guess, and I'm guessing here, is that there are so many hundreds of thousands and millions of these acts so tightly together that if one of the little guys dies, it ain't no big thing. Because he's surrounded by his living brothers and sisters. Gotcha. But I don't know how long each one lives, though. That's a good question. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Yeah. Someone will know. Yeah. Coral sand, if you look at the reef and you think, hey, coral is obviously the skeleton here of this great reef. It's not just the coral. Coral sand, from what I understand, is little remnants, tiny pieces of coral that are either eaten and pooped out or just chipped away because of erosion and waves crashing and bad
Starting point is 00:18:21 weather and stuff like that. Right. Is that right? Yeah. And but the cool thing is, is it doesn't necessarily go anywhere. It can fill in gaps or holes. And then, as luck would have it, there is a type of algae called Coraline algae. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:37 That goes and covers it up. And the structure of the algae acts as like an adhesive that glues the coral sand. So basically, it's like this self-sustaining repair process that's always going on. That's awesome. The waves erode the coral into coral sand. Certain types of fish chew the coral into coral sand. The sand goes in, just drifts into like little pockets where it gets caught and the algae lays over it.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Bam. Strong coral. Well, and coral sand is mined, which is one of the threats to reefs because they use it for bricks and cement and road fill. So if you're mining the coral sand, there's not going to be that natural spackle to fill in the holes and thus the reef is jeopardized. Which is just one of many ways that reefs are in jeopardy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Apparently, one estimate is that 40% of the world's reefs could be gone in the next few decades. That's scary. It is. Very sad. I hope you're scared. I am scared. This is where I got a little confused was, well, let's talk about the kinds of reefs because I'm not confused about that.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Okay. There are basically three categories depending where they form. The fringing reef, it's the most common. It's directly from the shore and they form a border projecting out to the sea. Yeah. It's kind of like if you go to like Marblehead in Ohio, there's a lighthouse. Yeah. I think it's limestone.
Starting point is 00:20:02 It's like it just comes right off of the land. Right. I don't understand how that would be because it's in Lake Erie, which is not fresh water, but who knows. It's very similar to that. It's like just a rocky projection jutting out from the land, but it's a coral reef. Right. Or if it were a coral reef, that's a fringing reef.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Interesting. Reef attached to land. Very reef. Very similar to the fringing reef, but it has a gap of water between the land and the reef. Is that correct? Yeah. And then my favorite, of course, the atoll. That's a nice one.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Which is when at one point there was an island or a volcano and it sunk, but you still have the circular reef with, I guess, like a lagoon or something. Yeah. The reef keeps building, but the mountain is now submerged. Pretty cool. Yeah. So you got your three types. Fringing, barrier, and atoll.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Right. The zones is where I get a little confused. So all of these reefs are kind of broken down into zones. Like you remember the biospeleology? How could I forget? Okay. So you've got like the different zones. Of the cave.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Sure. This is very similar to that. You've got the back of the reef and the back is the side closest to shore. I think that's what confused me. And then it just never looked back. Yeah, it's a little confusing, but it's from the viewpoint of the sea. That's right. So you've got, just imagine like a line and then a bump and then another line and that's
Starting point is 00:21:28 our reef, right? Okay. On the shore side of the bump, that's the back of the reef. And this is actually where the most life is. The flat zone. Yeah. Sometimes it's left high and drive by low tide, but most times it's just this little shallow area that's got tons of sunlight.
Starting point is 00:21:45 So there's tons of plankton. Sure. Which means there's tons of fish. There's a feeding frenzy. There's diurnal temperature changes. Yeah. It's just very pretty. It's what most people think of when they think about diving on a coral reef.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Okay. Right. Close. Safe. Then that bump, that's the ridge or the crest. Okay. Okay. That part, the crest is always exposed at low tide and it may be exposed even at high
Starting point is 00:22:13 tide sometimes depending on how big, but it's the tallest point. It also serves as the wave break for that function of reefs that protect the land. Okay. Sure. This is what the waves smack into. So it's going to be more easily eroded and probably have more of that natural speckle, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:32 That was at Coraline algae? Probably. That was called? Coraline, yeah. Okay. Or Coraline. Whichever, however you want to say it, Chuck, I'm not going to stress you out. All right.
Starting point is 00:22:44 And then there's the fore reef. That's the ocean side, the seaside. Right. And in that part of the fore reef on the other side of the crest, the seaside of the crest, there's the buttress zone, which is awesome if you ask me. And that's where you're going to find, if you're shark hunting, that's where you're going to find sharks and barracuda and interesting things like that, right?
Starting point is 00:23:05 But does it buttress? Is that why they call it the buttress zone? So the buttress, consider buttress is just like a jutting projection of Coral limestone, right? Just jutting out. And then in between these projections are little channels, holes that can go all the way through. Right. I'm not quite sure what the physics are of it, but basically,
Starting point is 00:23:24 once a wave goes through this coral reef and hits shore and then gets drawn back out to sea, these channels funnel these spent waves back out to sea. And by funneling them, it gives them more energy. Right. So then they crash into oncoming waves, which reduces the oncoming waves velocity. So all this is in an attempt, naturally, to combat the erosion of pounding waves. Yes. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Yeah, it's pretty cool. And it's also a really excellent shelter for little fishies and things like that, that want to go into the channel. So Josh, we've talked about the Great Balearia Reef here and there, but we should give it its proper due as the largest living structure on the planet, seen from outer space. Everyone loves to throw that back around. Yeah. You can see it from outer space.
Starting point is 00:24:18 And that made me look something up, Chuck. Chuck, it's the largest living structure. Okay. So if a coral reef is an organism, do you know what the second largest living organism is? My guess would be Louis Anderson. Is he still with us? I think so. I don't know why I picked a comedian that's been out of the loop for that long.
Starting point is 00:24:44 That was a fat joke, man. That was so mean. You don't hear those these days. I know. No. It's a fungus in Oregon named Amarile Oyeste, 8,600 years old, takes up four square miles or 10 square kilometers. Single organism.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Where is it? Oregon. Oh, Oregon. Yeah. Wow. It's at our friend Van Nostrand's house. So it's a big mushroom? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Interesting. Isn't that gross? That is gross. So the Great Balearia Reef, we're talking 1,429 miles or 2,300 clicks. And it is not a single reef. It's about 3,000. I got 2,900, so I'm not sure if that number had declined since this was written or not. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:25 But Jennifer points out, and like you pointed out earlier, the full edge of the reef is about 18 and a half thousand miles. So she says, if anyone's ever told you they've dived the entire Great Balearia Reef, they're dirty liars. Yeah, she said they're lying. Because there's no way you couldn't do it in a lifetime, she said. Yeah. I wonder if somebody told her that, and she like inserted it in the article.
Starting point is 00:25:50 I don't know. It's definitely an accusation. It is. It's a weird thing. It's one of the seven natural wonders of the world, more than 400 coral species, 2,000 fish species, 4,000 mollusks, and six of the seven sea turtle species, all right there for the oogling. Nice.
Starting point is 00:26:09 And the oggling. Nice. Like you said, the Australians are going to be proud of this, and they should be. Of course. Back in 1975, apparently, it was in some jeopardy, and the Australians moved to protect it as a national marine park, and that basically ensured its survival. Sure. It's still kind of in rough shape here or there, as I understand, but six years after
Starting point is 00:26:43 that, so let's see, in 1981, it became a World Heritage Site, and 1% of the 18,500 square miles, or 18,500 linear miles, are open to the public, except for that 1%. So just 1% is dedicated to research only? Just research. That's pretty cool. Yeah. Not very much. You have to be a bona fide scientist to dive that part.
Starting point is 00:27:10 The rest of it, Jennifer points out, is divided into national park zones, which is where you can go recreate and learn some things, and then the rest of it is general use, which means commercial fishing, which I guess there's no better time to get into the threats than right now. Yes. There are some coral reefs in trouble. The Great Barrier Reef, like I said, it's pretty well protected, but say if you look at some of the reefs in the Philippines, 70% have been destroyed, and 5%, just 5% are in good condition
Starting point is 00:27:46 these days. 10% of the world's reefs are now beyond recovery, not just because of human causes, because of natural causes as well, because everything exists on a life cycle here on Earth. Yeah. We humans just tend to accelerate it. 30% may die in the next 10 to 20 years. So some of the natural threats are obviously harsh weather like hurricanes. El Nino, a weird weather pattern.
Starting point is 00:28:16 It's going to increase temperatures, mess with the salinity, a lot more rainfall. So an El Nino season can do some serious damage. Bleaching, coral bleaching. When they experience as little as like one degree rise in temperature, the algae will be ejected basically from the coral. No, the algae takes off. Oh, it leaves? Yeah. It's like, see you in hell, coral.
Starting point is 00:28:42 There's a fine line between ejection and self-leaving. Is the chicken and egg thing? Maybe. You think? Yeah. So the algae gets the heck out of dodge, turns the coral white, and if you google pictures, you can see a lovely coral with like white patches here and there. That's the parts where it's bleached out.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Yep. And if this keeps up long enough, the coral dies. Because again, coral has a symbiotic relationship where it's dependent on the zeaxanthines algae. And if the zeaxanthines leaves, then the coral dies. Very sad. And like you said, it was just as much as a one degree temperature increase, right? Yeah, that's not much. There's also predators, like there's things that eat the coral, the polyps themselves.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Crabs, worms, snails, barnacles, parrotfish. Yeah, those are really pretty. Can't do anything about that, pal. That's nature at work. Yeah. But there are things we can do, such as not using dynamite when we fish on coral reefs. That's a pretty good start. Yeah, I would say so.
Starting point is 00:29:50 There's 40 countries in the world, over 40 countries in the world, that allow blast fishing. People using explosives that they drop onto the reef to stun the fish, so they can just swoop them up with the net. And basically, guffaw like a slack jawed yokel wearing nothing but overalls while they just bring their nets in. They just threw dynamite in the water to stun fish. Well, the dynamite also has a deletrious impact on the reef structure as well. You're going to go to the grave with that one, aren't you?
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Starting point is 00:31:22 Without any drugs, of course, yes, they can do that. And I'm the prime example of that. The war on drugs is the excuse our government uses to get away with absolutely insane stuff. Stuff that'll piss you off. The property is guilty, exactly. And it starts as guilty. It starts as guilty. The cops, are they just, like, looting?
Starting point is 00:31:40 Are they just, like, pillaging? They just have way better names for what they call, like, what we would call a jackmove or being robbed. They call civil acid for it. Be sure to listen to the war on drugs on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. We're going to use Hey Dude as our jumping off point, but we are going to unpack and dive back into the decade of the 90s. We lived it, and now we're calling on all of our friends to come back and relive it.
Starting point is 00:32:27 It's a podcast packed with interviews, co-stars, friends, and non-stop references to the best decade ever. Do you remember going to Blockbuster? Do you remember Nintendo 64? Do you remember getting frosted tips? Was that a cereal? No, it was hair. Do you remember AOL Instant Messenger and the dial-up sound, like poltergeist?
Starting point is 00:32:45 So leave a code on your best friend's beeper, because you'll want to be there when the nostalgia starts flowing. Each episode will rival the feeling of taking out the cartridge from your Game Boy, blowing on it and popping it back in as we take you back to the 90s. Listen to Hey Dude, the 90s, called on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's talk about blast fishing again. Okay. Our cyanide fishing, which is the ugly stepsister of blast fishing,
Starting point is 00:33:12 which is dumping cyanide onto reefs to kill fish. Again, you have to wear nothing but overalls. No shirt, no shoes, nothing. No service. Overfishing period has got a negative effect, obviously. Yeah, because you're basically affecting the food chain. You're like, oh, we like these guys, because they're tasty, and I'm sure they won't be missed.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Whenever you take any key species out of an ecosystem, you're in trouble. No good. There's also runoff as a big one, because remember they like clear light, the algae do, or clear water, and when the water's not clear, they shrivel up, because they need sunlight for photosynthesis. Yeah, the pollutants when also, I thought it was going to be pollutants, because just pollutants are bad, which they are, but really the reason is, pollutants and sewage actually increase the nutrients.
Starting point is 00:34:07 So that attracts harmful algae and competition, and that's no good. Right. And then we already talked about the mining. So what can we do, Chuck? We've got a few things we can do. You can adopt a reef. You can. Tons of organizations will let you do that.
Starting point is 00:34:28 In fact, if you want to go to adopt.nature.org slash coral reef, you can adopt a reef in the Bahamas, Dominican Republic, Puao, and Papua New Guinea. Nice. Just like that. Yeah, you can funnel money to an organization that will take care of that reef. Exactly. And that's just one.
Starting point is 00:34:50 I think you can do it through all kinds of places. Didn't you say that? Yeah. You can get your congressperson to lobby for stricter oversight of fishing methods. You can boycott products from countries that allow blast fishing or cyanide fishing, really put the squeeze on the common man in the other country. You can make him go to his congressperson. You can not chip off bits of the coral when you scuba dive,
Starting point is 00:35:13 because it's just so pretty that you want to take it home. Yeah, that's a big one. Give it to your daughter. Yeah. Not good. There's a lot of stuff you can do that you probably should do if you want to save the coral reefs. That's right.
Starting point is 00:35:26 I got nothing else. Why would you save them? Do you say if you don't care about snorkeling or anything like that? Well, my friend, if you care about the economy, you will want to save coral reefs, because they are valuable, the total value of the asset that is the reef systems in Florida. Uh-huh. Oh, in Florida alone? Just Florida, $8.5 billion when you take into account, not just tourism,
Starting point is 00:35:50 which is a big part of it, but also the estimated 177,000 jobs that all the industries surrounding it create. Wow. That's just Florida. Worldwide, just from tourism and recreation, just tourism and recreation that reefs bring in, $9.6 billion annually. So if you like money, then you should support coral reefs. 12% to 15% of Bolivia's GDP is created by reefs.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Wow. Isn't that crazy? That is crazy. Yeah, so if you don't have a heart about money makes you likey, then that should get you going on saving coral reefs as well. That's right. So if you want to learn more about coral reefs, including seeing a diagram of where the fore and the back of the reef is, you can type in coral reefs in the searchbarthouse.forks.com.
Starting point is 00:36:43 It'll bring up this great article by Jennifer Horton. And since I said Jennifer Horton, it's time now for Listener Mail. Every time the name Jennifer Horton is uttered on the planet, somebody read a Listener Mail somewhere. Yes. Quick announcement first, Josh. Okay, I know what you're going to say. That's right.
Starting point is 00:37:03 We want to announce our South by Southwest action this year. We've been invited back somehow. I didn't think this way was. Oh, really? That it was about the pizza party. We have coming up. Oh, no, no, no. That's been just a few weeks.
Starting point is 00:37:15 We are going to be podcasting live at South by Southwest. What? Geez. It's a tough one. It's a mouthful. South by Southwest in Austin, Texas on Sunday, March the 11th from 3.30 to 4.30 PM. We don't know the location yet, but we will get that out soon. If you're a badge holder, we would love to have you come down and hear us podcast live.
Starting point is 00:37:38 If you are not a badge holder, take heed. Monday, March 12th, we're going to be throwing a party. Did you write down the dates? I've noticed you've been getting them right. Nice. Got my little calendar out. Yeah, we are going to throw a party. We can't really reveal the details yet.
Starting point is 00:37:52 But if you're in Austin, Texas on March 11th and 12th, we'll be in town. And there will be something for everybody, badge holder or not. All right. Yes. All right. Yep. So stay tuned for details. Look at it on Facebook and Twitter.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Yep. And on the podcast, when we get everything firmed up, we'll let you know. Yeah. All right. Listen to me. Okay. All right. I'm going to call this a good cause from a good person.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Hello, SYSK team. I want to take a minute and thank you for helping me in a really big way. I've been working alone as a volunteer in Malawi south of Tanzania. Malawi. Malawi. Since September of 2009, and I happily passed the time listening to your show during my super long, super awesome mini bus rides. I am building a library in a small village.
Starting point is 00:38:40 And a big part of my library is an audio video collection that I've been putting together for the past few years. Many of the people in the village are illiterate. So a library full of books just wouldn't do the mini good. So I started to think of ways I could include everyone in a learning activity. My answer was to incorporate documentaries and podcasts on a variety of subjects. So basically we will choose a topic for the week and use the podcasts as a way of getting people interested.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Then direct them to read articles and books on the topic or watch documentaries and have some group discussions. Wow. Pretty cool. I really believe in the beauty of being inquisitive and interested in life and videos and podcasts really help immerse people in new subjects. This is the first library of its kind in the country. Wow.
Starting point is 00:39:27 And I'm really hopeful that it helps to open the world up to people who are so often cut off, fingers crossed. And that is from Diane Bowles, the founder of The Future Found. And if you want to check out Diane's awesome work, she's doing, you can go to thefuturefound.org. Excellent Chuck. Very cool. That's Diane.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Diane. In Malawi. Yeah, building the only library of its kind in the country. That is so cool. Thank you very much, Diane, for doing that. What do you want to hear? You want to hear of other people making a difference in the world? We always love that.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Yeah. You're a sap for that kind of thing. Or some good harrowing scuba diving stories, one or the other. Okay. So that's a great one, Chuck. Either doing good in the world or not doing good whatsoever. Right. That could be directed to Chuck and I via Twitter at syskpodcast. That's our Twitter handle on facebook.com.
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