Stuff You Should Know - How Nitrous Oxide Works
Episode Date: February 18, 2016For about 175 years people have been huffing nitrous oxide for everything from vision quests to anesthetic to get plain old high. And after all that time we are only now beginning to understand how it... works on our brains. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hey, and welcome to the podcast.
I'm Josh Clark, wah, wah, wah.
There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, wah, and there's Jerry.
And this is Stuff You Should Know, wah, wah, wah, wah.
The podcast.
You're making, I'm giggling like a schoolgirl.
You're making a-
Oh, I think I just topped you schoolgirl once.
Echo-y, reverb-y sound.
So this could only be about one thing.
Nature's Oxide.
That's right.
N2O.
That's right.
Hippie Crack.
The Bitter Mistress.
Whippets.
Jazz Juice.
Yeah, why not?
Yeah.
I mean, those are the street names.
It has medical applications.
Some of those are made up.
Yeah, we're gonna cover the whole gamut here.
Yeah.
Medical use and recreational use, dangers.
Yeah, we're gonna do an episode on nitrous oxide.
That's right.
So Chuck, we should probably start, not at the beginning,
but not at the end, somewhere in the middle,
because the history of nitrous oxide
is extraordinarily interesting.
Just the history.
Yeah, we're gonna tell it out of order, like Pulp Fiction.
That's right.
Let's see if you can recognize characters
from other movies.
Like Vincent Vega's brother.
Yeah, Michael Madsen was Vincent Vega's brother.
Did you know that?
Yeah.
Oh, you knew that?
I did.
Well, well.
I don't think that's the most heavily guarded secret.
Did you notice that red apple cigarettes
make an appearance in more than just Pulp Fiction?
Yeah.
All right, I'm done.
Did you notice that Quentin Tarantino likes to write
275 page scripts?
Yeah.
But that's nothing compared to the 580 page tome
that Humphrey Davy wrote on nitrous oxide.
Very nice, little segue.
All right, so we're not even talking about Humphrey Davy.
He's at the beginning.
He's not even at the beginning,
but he's toward the beginning.
We're gonna talk instead about the sad saga
of one Dr. Horace Wells, DDS.
Very sad.
Yeah, so Dr. Horace Wells was a dentist
in New Haven, Connecticut, I believe, in the 1840s.
What is DDS?
Is that dentist, dentist, see?
Is that what that means?
That's what I've always assumed it was.
And at this point, everyone knows
we just make most of the stuff we say up.
That's right.
So you're right, sir.
He was a dentist in Hartford, Connecticut.
Oh, it was Hartford.
I said New Haven.
Well, what's the difference?
As long as it's in Connecticut.
And this was in the 1830s, and...
Oh, really?
I said 1840.
Oh, man, really?
Yeah, maybe we should start over.
Wah, wah, wah, wah.
All right, he was a dentist in the 1830s,
and he recognized something
that all dentists of the day recognize,
which is everyone hates your guts
because you are causing excruciating amounts of pain
on a daily basis to your patients.
Yeah, it's like, here's some whiskey, maybe?
Yeah.
Bite on this broomstick.
Well, actually, you can't do that
because you're doing dentistry.
So you can't even do that.
Yeah, you ever heard the term, it's like pulling teeth?
That's where it comes from.
Right, and so Horace Wells, DDS,
dentist, dentistry, he felt pretty bad about this,
enough so that he went to a traveling exhibition once
that came through town, and this was in the 1840s,
and it was staged by a man named Gardner Colton.
That's a great name.
Gardner Quincy Colton.
Yeah, he sounds like a...
Rich kid from Texas.
Or yeah, or like a sideshow showman,
which is what he was.
Right, and he actually was in medical school
for a little while, and while he was in med school,
he was introduced to the wonders
of huffing nitrous oxide.
Yes.
And he said, I'm not gonna do medical school anymore,
I'm just gonna drop out and hit the road with...
A tank.
The old hippie crack.
Yeah, exactly, and show people what's what.
And so at one of these demonstrations in Hartford,
in sometime in the 1840s, he saw Colton give this demo
and I guess right afterward saw a man run into the stage
or fell off the stage and hurt his leg.
Yeah.
And Wells went over and was like,
are you okay in the guys?
Like, what are you talking about?
And he said, the bone is sticking out of your leg, sir.
And he's like, what's a bone?
No, it wasn't that bad, but he did say, interesting.
Yeah.
Here's what I'll do.
I'll get Colton to come into my office tomorrow
and my buddy colleague, John Riggs,
I'll get Colton to administer the gas
and I'll get Riggs to pull one of my teeth.
And he did so, and he said,
I did not feel so much as the prick of a pen.
And he said, I think we're on to something here,
something called pain-free dentistry,
AKA please stop hating me.
Right, and so Wells followed in this really great tradition
that really stopped in, I guess probably
about the 20th century, mid to the late 20th century,
of where if you were a scientist,
you were your own first human test subject.
I bet people still do that.
Yeah, apparently in-
In Marvel comics they do.
One of the greatest articles I've ever read
in any magazine anywhere in all time
throughout the universe in perpetuity
is called Blood Spore.
And it was about the murder of a mycologist,
a scientist who studies mushrooms.
And it's really, really interesting.
There's all sorts of weird cold case stuff to it,
but there's also an underlying thread where
if you're a mycologist and you discover a mushroom,
you try it out on yourself.
Like that's just what they do still today.
I think that you try it on yourself
after you fed it to your children,
just to see what happens.
Maybe your dog first, and then you try it on you.
Man, I'll bet those mycologist dogs were bandannas
and are super laid back, you know?
What's the name of the article?
I wanna check that out.
Blood Spore, it's in Harper's,
which means it's behind a paywall, but.
Gotcha.
It's almost worth a year subscription just for that one.
Wow.
Harper's archives are definitely full of good articles.
Agreed.
So Wells was pretty happy
because he knew he was onto something there.
And he said he performed just dental procedures
for the next few weeks and months on dozens of patients
and they were all like, this is great.
Works great.
Didn't feel a thing, Doc.
And he said, I think I'm ready.
I wanna present this to some Harvard medical students
in the establishment.
And he got on stage and he went to pull a tooth
and the guy started screaming.
Yeah, so like after all of these tests,
successful tests, when he finally gets up the gumption
to give a successful demonstration,
it goes as bad as it could.
And it's actually called the Humbug Affair
because the medical student shouted Humbug
and what was the other one?
Swindler.
Swindler Adam.
And he's like, no, I'm not, I'm not.
I swear, this is for real.
I really care about my patients and the room started spinning
and he fell over.
And when he came to, he was on skid row,
hooked on chloroform and nitrous oxide.
Yeah, he later went on to say that.
Although wait, let me clarify.
You technically can't get hooked on nitrous oxide
but he was huffing a lot of nitrous oxide.
Right.
Well, although Davey, well, we'll get to that.
Okay.
He is spoiler.
He went on to say that he thought
that he had probably withdrawn too much too soon
from the guy because as we'll go on to talk about here
in a little bit, when you stop breathing in nitrous,
you go back to normal pretty quickly.
Very quickly.
So he kind of just aired, I don't know,
I would have gone a little bit overboard for the demo.
Sure.
On the safe side.
I would have been like 99 pal.
But yeah, he became, well, like you said, not hooked
but a heavy user of ether and chloroform.
Oh yes, ether.
On his 33rd birthday, he was, I think,
a waiting arrival of his, he ended up living alone,
moved and was waiting on his wife and kid to come to London.
But by this time, he'd sunk into like a terrible depression.
Oh yeah.
Right?
And he was alone because his family wasn't able
to join him yet and he flipped out on his 33rd birthday,
went out on the street and threw acid on these two women.
Flipped out after going on like a chloroform bender.
Yeah, yeah.
And went to prison and in prison, he sort of reached,
he kept doing chloroform and ether in prison
because I guess you could get it and hit rock bottom
and under an ether binge, slashed his femoral artery
and his thigh died.
Well yeah, he talked to the guard
into escorting him home to get his shaving kit and at home.
It's like a needle big razor.
I think at home or maybe back
if he was getting chloroform in prison,
it could have been there.
He hopped a dose of chloroform to anesthetize himself
and then he cut his femoral artery.
So to the end, he was a believer in anesthesia.
I guess so.
However, years later, in 1864,
he was recognized by the ADA,
the American Dental Association,
as a pioneer of using, not ether,
but what are we talking about, N02.
N2O.
And dentistry, N2O.
Yeah.
Do you know who got him to that point?
Well yeah.
Gardner Colton.
That's right.
He set up practice as a dentist after all
and it was his successful demonstrations
that got the ADA on board.
So now we need to go back in time.
Yeah, even further back.
That's sort of the middle.
So we're in the way back machine.
I guess we didn't point out we were in there already.
I think everyone just assumed.
And we go back 70 years previous to Horace Wells
to a guy named Jason Priestley.
Yeah, Dylan.
Sorry.
No, Brandon.
Joseph Priestley.
Oh, that guy.
Jason Priestley's dad.
Yeah.
Or great, great, great, great, great, great, great,
great grandfather.
I don't think there was any relation actually.
You don't know.
You're right.
Joseph Priestley, he was an Englishman
and he began-
Just like Jason Priestley.
That's right.
He was a big, he was an enlightened thinker
and he was a contemporary Ben Franklin
and he was a smart guy on a lot of different subjects.
He was a polyglot.
Yeah, that's a good word for it.
Cool guy.
And-
No, I'm sorry.
He was a polymath.
A polymath?
A polyglot is somebody who speaks a bunch
of different languages.
Polymath is somebody who's in a bunch of different fields.
He may well be.
Both.
Yeah, probably.
He was an enlightenment guy for sure.
And in the 1770s, he was studying a love,
I think we should go back to using only old terminology
because what they called gases back then
was the study of the heirs.
Yeah.
Which is great.
Totally makes sense.
Yeah.
Gases.
That means to shoot a duck.
And he actually lived next to a brewery
so he had a lot of access to CO2
and very smartly created a device
called the pneumatic trough to isolate gases,
collect and isolate these gases and he was good at it.
So well, a guy named Stephen Hale's actually created
the first pneumatic trough,
which is actually pretty, it's simple invention.
It's neat though.
So like you have a tube, let's say you have a fire
and you wanna collect carbon monoxide from it,
you basically have a tube that collects it,
the smoke that's coming off of it,
and the tube goes into a vat of water
and up into a glass bell jar that's upside down,
it's inverted so that there's air at the top.
I think the principle's similar.
And so the smoke goes into the water
and then goes up and is filtered through the water
and what gas you have on the other end
is whatever you're looking for.
Or a bunch of different gases
that you can study in pure form.
Simplistically beautiful.
It is.
So the priestly had his own that he made the pneumatic trough
and this guy actually isolated eight different gases
or airs for the first time,
which apparently is a record still.
Yeah, I don't know what the record is.
Like most gases discovered in a single lifetime.
Oh, okay.
I guess.
All right.
That's good.
It is.
I don't know that there's any more gases to discover.
I wonder, and who studies that kind of thing?
What do you call somebody who studies gases?
An aerologist, an aerosist.
Well, if you do that right into us,
cause I wanna know all about that.
And if there's,
if you guys think there's any gases left
to be discovered here on earth.
Agreed.
All right, let's take a break
before we talk about Humphrey Davy.
Okay.
Because he's,
this is where the story gets really good.
Mm-hmm.
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That was quite a break.
Yeah.
I can't believe you broke that lamp.
I was upset.
All right, Humphrey Davey.
He worked at a place called the Pneumatic Institute.
And they used gases as for therapy, curative therapies.
And he got into using them on himself,
which like you said, was sort of the thing to do at the time.
You experiment on yourself.
Right, plus as the author of this Rolling Stone article
from 1975 that I read pointed out,
he was also like 20 at the time.
So it totally makes sense that he would like
half a bunch of nitrous oxide.
Right, and then call it science.
Right, but he, I mean, it really was science.
So this guy apparently had tried it a few times before,
but then his big experiment, his first huge experiment
was on Boxing Day of 1799, right?
Which is December 26th.
It's very important that you remember December 26th, 1799.
Why is it important?
Well, it was Boxing Day.
But it was also literally Box Day
because Humphrey Davey got into a box
and had some guy pump in, was it like 20 courts?
Yeah, he stepped into a seal box
and he requested a physician, like a real doctor,
to release 20 courts, because otherwise it'd just be crazy.
Right.
He released 20 courts of nitrous oxide
every five minutes as long as I'm conscious.
Not bad.
That must have been the safe word is I'm passed out.
And he went for an hour and 15 minutes like that
in this box.
Not bad.
And then he stepped out and apparently grabbed some oil
skins, or also called gas bags.
And huffed another 20 courts right afterward.
And they were like, how are you still standing?
And he goes, I'm not, I'm flying.
He basically did.
He had a great disposition to laugh,
which eventually is where laughing gas would come from.
He talked about shining packets of light and energy.
He talked about objects dazzling in their intensity
and sounds amplified into a cacophony
that echoed through infinite space
and losing all connection to external things.
It's pretty cool.
So there's this really great article
on the public domain review.
And it's called, Oh, Excellent Gas Bag.
Is it gas bag or air bag?
Air bag.
Air bag, I'm sorry.
Which is a quote from a poet that was friends
with Humphrey Davy, who became the poet laureate
of Great Britain later on.
And the author really does a good job of describing
what nitrous oxide does to you.
Almost suspiciously, good.
So they say that the first signature
was its curiously benign sweet taste
followed by a gentle pressure in the head
as he continued to inhale.
Within 30 seconds, the sensation of soft probing pressure
had extended to his chest and the tips of his fingers
and toes.
This was accompanied by a vibrant burst of pleasure
and a gradual change in the world around him.
Objects became brighter and clearer
and the space in the cramp box seemed to expand
and take on unfamiliar dimensions.
Now, under the influence of the largest dose
of nitrous oxide anyone had ever taken,
these effects were intensified to levels
he could not have imagined.
Should I keep going?
Sure.
Do you want to take over?
No, go ahead.
I think it's better when we break it up.
Well, I'm gonna read the Southie part, so.
Okay.
His hearing became fantastically acute,
allowing him to distinguish every sound in the room
and seemingly from far beyond a vast distant hum.
Wah, wah, wah, wah.
Perhaps the vibration of the universe itself.
In his field of vision, the objects around him
were teasing themselves apart
into shining packets of light and energy.
He was rising effortlessly in a new world
whose existence he had never suspected.
Somehow the whole experience was irresistibly funny.
So Robert Southie, his buddy,
you mentioned the future poet laureate.
Right.
He brought him in.
Afterward, he was like,
I gotta get some more people in on this.
Fantastic.
Right, I gotta share this.
Yeah, that's what you do.
So he brought in, Southie, got him high
and he wrote his brother, Tom, a letter
that said, oh, Tom, exclamation point.
Such a gas as Davey discovered, the gaseous oxide.
Oh, Tom, again, exclamation point.
I have had some.
It made me laugh and tingle and every toe and fingertip.
Davey has actually invented a new pleasure
for which language has no name.
Oh, Tom, I am going for more this evening.
It makes one strong and so happy, so gloriously happy.
Oh, excellent airbag, exclamation point.
Pretty great stuff.
No wonder he was the poet laureate.
So in the summer of 1799,
after they closed the shop down,
the pneumatic institution during the day,
he would invite surgeons and playwrights
and poets and chemists and anyone who was interested,
who we could get the word to,
to come in there and huff nitrous.
I was about to say under the guise of experimentation,
but it really was because he would,
he learned that he was really finding that there were,
it was a language experiment
because no one could accurately describe
what they were feeling with English words.
Right, exactly.
They, he found that very strange and significant
that people would just come out
and just couldn't put it into words, their experience.
Sure, I mean, it was a brand new sensation.
There was one guy, James Thompson said,
we must either invent new terms
to express these new and peculiar sensations
or attach new ideas to old ones
before we can communicate intelligently,
or I'm sorry, intelligibly with each other
on the operation of this extraordinary gas.
I think Samuel Taylor Colleridge, the great poet,
put it best.
He put it really succinctly.
He basically said that it was like coming in
from the snow into a warm room.
Yeah, so what happened was he did these experiments
with these people, they eventually got kind of tired of it.
He experimented on himself, like not even in the room,
he just would fill up a big balloon,
or not a balloon, but a soap bag,
and just walk around England huffing,
and he found himself getting psychologically hooked,
at least, because he said,
he confessed that the desire to breathe the gas
is awakened in me by the sight of a person breathing.
So he would just see someone walking and breathing
and think, oh man, I wish I had some gas.
That's why they call it hippie crack.
Yeah, exactly.
So everyone else fell away,
he was only experimenting with himself for a little while,
then he brings in Colleridge, and they really buddied up.
And I think they were just kind of
saw eye to eye on the gas.
Like neither one of them wanted to cease using it.
And so again though, you have to point out,
all this time while he's under the,
he's just huffing nitrous basically constantly,
Humphrey Davy is still remaining a man of science, right?
Sure.
So remember December 26, 1799,
was the day that the Boxing Day experiment took place, right?
By Easter, just a few months later,
he'd written a 580 page scientific treatise
on nitrous oxide and its effects on humans and animals.
Should I read the title?
Yeah.
Researchers, chemical and philosophical,
chiefly concerning nitrous oxide,
or deep, oh man, what is that word?
Deflogisticated nitrous air and its respiration.
Nice.
Was the name of it.
Yes.
So in that book, he mentioned something kind of,
I guess offhandedly, he says that as nitrous oxide
appears capable of destroying physical pain,
it may probably be used with advantage
during surgical operations in which no great
effusion of blood takes place.
Yeah, so not like open heart surgery,
but maybe if you're gonna set someone's broken arm.
Right, so he says this, but it's another 40 years
before Horace Wells starts trying to use
nitrous oxide as an anesthetic.
Up to that point, it's basically just a high society drug
that people have like nitrous parties with.
Yep.
That was the fate of nitrous oxide from 1800
to about the 1840s.
And then Horace Wells picks it up
and it becomes brought into the medical field.
Yeah, they finally start using it for its intended,
well, what would end up being its intended purpose
that's still used today.
Right.
And in fact, nitrous oxide is the number one
inhaled anesthetic in the medical profession.
Ask for it by name.
And here's the deal though,
when you get it at the dentist,
they can actually vary it,
but it never goes more than a 70-30 mix.
I saw that too.
The article says it's always a 50-50 mix.
That's not right.
So it's no more than 70% nitrous.
Yeah, which is very much key as you'll learn
because one of the big dangers of doing it recreationally
is not mixing it with oxygen.
Right.
If you mix it with oxygen, you're fine, you're totally fine.
Right.
So it's kind of nuts, Chuck, that with nitrous oxide,
we spent at least 150 years.
And still today, we're not a million percent sure,
but at least 150 years using it medically
without understanding how it worked.
Yeah, it's like you said though, it's still a little dicey.
It is a little bit dicey.
They know it makes you feel good.
Right.
It does the trick.
And it kicks in your dopamine and all the pleasure receptors.
So it's classified as three things.
It's an analgesic, which means that it kills pain.
It's an anesthetic, but it's actually not a true anesthetic.
And it's an anxiolytic, which means it diminishes anxiety.
And so I found this 2006 paper
and it basically says, here's what we think is going on.
All right, hit me.
So with an anxiolytic, it triggers the same response
in the brain as a benzodiazepine,
which is like Valium or Xanax or something like that.
So it actually does cut down on anxiety,
which is why the dentist will use it for like little kids
or patients who are like nervous about going to the dentist.
Get a little gas, probably not a 70, 30 concentration.
Yeah, probably.
Just a little bit and it'll cut down on your anxiety
and you're totally fine, Doc.
Go ahead and do whatever you like.
Yeah.
As far as an analgesic is concerned,
it actually does have a tremendous amount
of an ability to cut down on pain.
And it does so by activating your opioids.
Those are released.
Yeah.
Opioids are produced in the brain
and your opioid receptors are activated as well.
And then it also goes to your spinal column
and messes with its ability to process pain there too.
And they say that something like a,
just a 30% concentration of nitrous oxide
is equal to about 10 to 15 milligrams of morphine.
Yeah, and that's if it's 50, 50 or below with oxygen,
it's on the analgesic side.
I think up to the 70% is when it is known as an anesthetic.
Right, and so it's not technically an anesthetic
in that if you huff that until you lost consciousness,
you're probably in big trouble.
You don't want to use nitrous oxide for that
and anesthetists know that kind of thing,
but it's used usually as an aid
to a general anesthetic, right?
Right.
And it does have anesthetic properties,
but it's a dissociative anesthetic kind of like ketamine,
which means that it goes after your NMDA receptors,
which have to do with memory formation
and they control like neurofiring, right?
Yeah.
And it has a dissociative effect,
which is why when you're on nitrous,
you feel like you have left your body,
you've gone back in time, you've died and are being reborn.
Yeah, and one of the,
we'll talk a little bit more about childbirth later,
but one of the quotes I saw from a childbirth nurse,
they said the mothers who use it during childbirth
are that sometimes they can still feel pain,
they just don't care about it.
Right.
Which would be the disassociative quality.
Exactly.
But I don't get, because you said it was...
An analgesic?
Yeah, I mean, I guess maybe childbirth is so painful.
Sure.
You can't knock it out completely.
And also, I mean like with anesthetics of any kind
or even analgesics, any person's gonna have
different reactions, varying reactions to different drugs,
you know?
So that's kind of the current state of understanding
with what nitrous does to the brain, right?
You can also find nitrous elsewhere
outside of medical settings too, right?
Yeah, you can find it in a can of ready whip,
or a lot of chefs will have their own nitrous canister
to put whatever they want in it to be used as a propellant.
So it works really well with fatty liquids
and heavy creams and things.
So what happens is the gas is in there,
compressed into a liquid and mixed with the cream.
Because it's fat soluble.
Yeah, it mixes really well.
Highly pressurized, but as soon as you open that thing up,
it turns back into a gas and expands it like four times.
So that's why the whipped cream will come shooting out.
What's neat is you could buy a ready whip 20 years hence
after it sat in a garage in Tampa, Florida, say,
somewhere hot and muggy, and you shake it up
and pour it out and that whipped cream
will be totally fresh, not the least bit rancid.
That's because nitrous oxide totally displaces air and oxygen
so no bacteria can form inside a can of ready whip
or any other instant whipped cream.
Well, and that displacement of oxygen
is also why you can die if you, let's say,
put a bag over your head to intensify your high
if you're using it recreationally.
Well, we'll talk more about that later, right?
Yes. Okay.
Before we break though, let's mention cars
because anyone who has ever seen fasts and furiouses.
Or is a Sammy Hagar solo fan?
I can't drive 55. That's right.
Does he talk about nitrous?
No, but it's just assumed that there's nitrous involved.
Well, you've heard, you may have heard or seen
on TV or movies about using nitrous in your car
like you have that little tank
or you may see one of those cheesy cars in a parking lot
with the little tank in there.
And basically what it does is cars run burn hotter,
engines burn hotter and go faster with more oxygen.
And if you crank in that nitrous oxide,
it's just basically gonna ramp up the oxygen levels
going into the engine.
Right. With more oxygen, more gas gets burned, right?
More gas gets burned, more horsepower is produced
because the gases expand and pump those pistons even harder.
Then you're too fast and too furious.
Yeah. For the roads.
Maybe even doing a little Tokyo drifting.
Have you seen those, any of them?
No, but I believe, I believe they're the most lucrative
movie franchise in the history of like all movies.
Oh, cause they made seven of them.
Yeah, but like the first one made a billion dollars
worldwide in its first week or the last one.
The last one made like a billion dollars.
It's crazy how popular they are.
I think I saw the first one.
Yeah, I've never seen any of them.
But that's about, it's just not my bag.
No, I don't, if you like that kind of thing,
that's great.
I'm glad you have that.
I've never been a car guy.
Yeah.
You know, like I like my cars,
but I've never been like, oh man, look at that sports car.
Sure.
I sure would like to drive fast in that.
Yeah. Well, remember when we hosted
or judged that Red Bull thing?
Oh yeah.
I was talking to a young jock
and I was talking to him and he started talking about cars
and I'm like, wow, we don't have anything common, do we?
Yeah, Josh and I judged a soapbox derby contest
sponsored by Red Bull and young jock
and local Atlanta rappers.
Who was super cool.
He's a very nice guy.
But he was a car dude and I'm not a car dude.
I know.
You're not a car dude either.
Well, I got my pickup truck.
Yeah, I'm like, look at those tires.
Pretty neat.
They really make contact with the asphalt, don't they?
All right, well, let's take a break
and go learn more about cars.
And we'll come back and talk about
some of the recreational use and dangers.
But we're done talking about cars, right?
Yes.
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Yeah, I bet you they've covered nitrous.
I'm sure.
In the automobile.
They've covered everything.
All right, so recreational use.
It has its medical purposes and its food and auto purposes,
but nitrous is very famous for becoming a big,
especially at concerts.
That's why they call it hippie crack in the 70s.
You started being able to buy this stuff
like a big balloon full of it at like a concert festival,
or let's be honest, at a Grateful Dead show.
All right.
They're also, I'll post that Rolling Stone article
on the podcast page for this.
Really interesting.
It is.
But it's also a, what is that?
Oh, it's called secondhand embarrassment.
Like what people get from watching the Jeb Bush campaign.
Secondhand embarrassment, or yes,
what you've never heard before.
Oh, like where you're embarrassed for somebody?
For somebody, yes, exactly.
The, you definitely get that from reading this,
because the writers very earnestly, super 70s.
Oh, really?
Yeah, like one of the people who has interviewed
as an expert, a source, is the guy from High Times.
Only in the mid-70s did you get away
with calling up the High Times guy,
and just using him like a regular source.
You'll see what I'm saying.
Like it sounds normal.
Read the article and you'll be like,
yeah, this is super 70s.
Well, in the 70s is when it started becoming
a big concert going activity.
Oh, wait, I know what it was gonna say.
In college dorm rooms.
In this Rolling Stone article,
they were saying like, if you go to,
like a lot of us said in Berkeley, California,
and they were like places all over,
not just at concerts.
Sure.
It was everywhere in the 70s.
Yeah, yeah.
Because a lot of people were like,
that's cool, but this stuff like,
you can just stop and five minutes later,
you're back on your feet.
Yeah.
So it was like a big deal to them.
Well, which is one reason they call it hippie crack.
Right.
Because the high is short lived,
and you wanna do another one.
Sure.
And go listen to our crack episode.
Should we talk about why the high is short lived?
Well, let me finish my thought.
Sorry.
So earlier in the 19th and 20th century though,
like you said, when it was sort of the back room
parlor game of the high society,
it made its way into Hollywood.
And back in like the days of making high times
and movies like, or not high times,
the, what was the one?
Castle Blanket.
No, the famous pot movie, I'm totally blanking out.
Oh.
On the pot movie.
Reef or Madness.
Reef or Madness.
There were movies about huffing.
There was Charlie Chaplin was in one in 1914,
where he played a dentist,
well, someone posing as a dentist,
who had huffed gas.
Have you ever seen that Chaplin thing
where he does coke and jail?
And ends up like pulling the bars apart?
It's pretty hilarious, actually.
And there were several movies early on called
Laughing Gas, not just one.
Right.
And they weren't sequels.
They were just multiple movies called Laughing Gas.
Yeah, I'm sure you could get a decent amount of people
into a theater to watch people doing Laughing Gas.
Sure.
And then they thought, man,
I could go for some Laughing Gas myself.
All right, so what were you gonna say about?
Oh, why the high lasts?
So it's such a short period of time.
So it's constant while you're huffing it, right?
That's right.
Because you're huffing nitrogen oxide gas, right?
Yeah, and it's displacing oxygen.
I'm sorry, nitrous oxide gas.
And it is displacing oxygen.
But as long as you're huffing in a safe supply of oxygen
as well, your brain's continuing to function.
But your opioid receptors are also going crazy
and your dissociative NDMA receptors are going crazy too.
And so you're high, but you're staying alive
because you're taking in enough oxygen, right?
Yeah.
The thing is, your body doesn't metabolize
almost any of that nitrous oxide.
Something like 0.004% of nitrous oxide is metabolized.
For the most part, you huff it in.
It's dissipated through your lungs and your bloodstream
and then brought back out and you exhale it.
So it resembles almost exactly
its same form that it went in when it comes out,
which means that there's no hangover
and it's expelled from your body through breathing,
just normal breathing, after you take the nitrous away.
Which is why so many people were like,
you can have crazy visions on this.
This is what the hippies were saying.
You can have crazy visions on this
and it takes you to other universes.
And then five minutes later, you're fine.
Sign me up.
Let's call the high times guy and see what he thinks about it.
Let's get a quote from him.
I did find a study though.
And I think it was last year published
in clinical neurophysiology
that they hooked people up to an EEG
and had them huff nitrous.
They really?
Yeah, and the guy there said nitrous oxide
has control over the brain in ways no other drug does.
And what they found was it altered,
basically created slow delta waves
for up to three minutes across the front of the brain
every 10 seconds.
I wonder if that's what makes the wah, wah, wah sound?
Well, it's basically what they found is it lasted
for three minutes after you think you're okay.
Oh yeah?
It's still, still doing damage
even though you think you feel fine for three minutes
which completely surprised them.
Oh yeah, I can see that.
Especially, I mean, if the effects were off,
you would think you would physiologically
be back to normal too.
Exactly.
That is surprising.
I found another study from, I'm not sure when,
sometime in the last few years
where they studied the effects of it on rats
and found that short-term low concentration exposure
and low concentration meaning like 50 years,
like what they used medically would,
like the effects of it on the brain neural cells
is reversible.
But it is very true and this is why everybody here
is about nitrous oxide is that when you huff,
it kills brain cells.
That's absolutely true.
It creates apoptosis which is pre-programmed cellular death
in your neurons.
It causes your brain cells to die
because of a lack of oxygen.
Nitrogen or nitrous oxide displaces oxygen
and your brain needs oxygen
and when your brain cells don't get oxygen,
they die and your brain undergoes hypoxia, right?
Not good for you.
Plus the fact that it goes after NDMA receptors
which are responsible for the myelin
which is the sheath that coats your nerves, right?
Yeah, that can lead to brain damage that last two.
The thing is, and this is a rat study,
it seems like it's prolonged exposure
or exposure of super high concentrations
that create irreversible damage.
Yeah, they've done a lot more studying about it
in the UK than here because up until this year,
it was legal.
Oh, they outlawed it?
Yeah.
Well, I guess the results of the study weren't promising.
Well, I mean, this is that only,
what is it now, mid-February?
Yeah.
Two weeks ago that literally came on the books.
Oh, really?
Has officially law and there were big demonstrations
in England like massive huffing parties on the lawn
of like the, I don't know where they decide these things.
Is it Parliament?
Buckingham Palace.
Sure, say Buckingham Palace because they're like,
this is, you know, what are we gonna do
at Glastonbury Festival every year now?
Sure.
And they...
Nice buzz marketing, by the way.
What, the Glastonbury Festival?
Yeah.
Well, we're not going to that.
I know, I was saying nice.
Oh, okay.
Well, they do it a lot there.
That's why the festival people said it's like
a big litter offender.
Because...
I could totally see that.
Canisters and balloons are just everywhere.
Yeah.
And, you know, birds pick up the balloons and...
They try to fly off of the canisters
but tear their legs off
because they're not strong enough to lift them.
So worldwide, it was in 2014,
it was the 14th most used drug in the world.
And...
Really?
Yeah.
14th.
Huh.
Would you think it'd be higher or lower?
I didn't even think about it.
I think it's just, that stat
just totally caught me by surprise.
14th.
And the independent said that
the UK's largest drug and alcohol charity,
Alastair Bohm,
they said, you know what?
We can't credibly deny that compared to other drugs,
it's relatively low risk.
The risk from taking it from balloons are quite low.
And to back up what you said,
he said, where there have been stories about deaths,
they tend to be from people who are using canisters
in masks when you get into danger.
That's stupid.
Let me get out, this old World War II gas mask,
or let me put a bag over my head,
or let me get in a car,
and then you're not getting that mix of oxygen,
and then you die.
First of all, kids, if you are putting a plastic bag
over your head for any reason,
you're a dummy.
That's a dumb thing to do.
Well, yeah, you're reaching,
you're going down the wrong path in life.
That's a great way to put it.
Because I don't want some kid to be like,
I am a dummy, and that's why I do these things, you know?
Let's self-defeating, come on, come on, son.
But there have been plenty of incidences of death.
Joseph Bennett, a 17-year-old from North London,
died in 2012 after falling into a coma.
And then just this year, a 21-year-old student
was found dead in his room with 200 spent cartridges.
Oh, well, that's-
Chasing that high is the problem.
Yes.
I mean, you shouldn't try it at all.
Right.
But you're gonna die when you have those
high, high, high concentrations.
Yeah, that's the problem with nitrous.
I mean, if you're being administered nitrous,
even in a medical setting,
you can have a bad reaction to it,
and it turns out you're allergic to nitrous and you're dead.
Yeah, but you're in a coma.
Or you're in a coma.
The oxygen at least.
If you are in, right, but even if you're in a medical setting,
you're flirting with death.
You're right there on the edge of death.
And if you're doing it outside of a medical setting,
your likelihood of dying or suffering
some sort of horrible, averse reaction to it
is even more through the roof, right?
Yeah.
Especially if you're taking hits straight out of a tank
and you're not taking breaths of clean air in between.
Yeah.
Yes, you very likely could die.
And it's not just hypoxia that gets you or asphyxiation.
You can also die from passing out and hitting your head.
Yeah, or I saw this one sad case.
I think it was in the United States,
this lady's son, like, you know,
wandered out into traffic and got hit by a car.
From nitrous?
Yeah, because he did nitrous and was just like,
so spaced out, he just kind of walked out into traffic.
Wow.
Because you're not aware of what's going on at the time.
And chasing that high, like I was talking about,
it would feel so good, you're like, but it's so fast.
Like, well, how can I prolong that experience?
I'll just stop breathing regular air in between.
What a waste.
Yeah, it's just, it's not smart.
No, it isn't.
No.
I think we got that across anyway.
I think so.
You know who doesn't do nitrous?
Know how, no way.
Who?
Scientologists.
Why?
L. Ron Hubbard hated nitrous oxide.
Really?
So much so that he stopped going to the dentist.
He had famously terrible teeth.
He did, I bet he did.
And he didn't go to the dentist.
And he, in 1938, he did go to the dentist
to have some work done.
And they put him under with some nitrous.
And he had a near-death experience and came back
and he wrote a manuscript called Excalibur.
And it's unpublished.
And in Excalibur, L. Ron Hubbard claimed
that anyone who read it either went insane
or committed suicide.
I remember reading about that.
And all of this knowledge was given to him
from his nitrous oxide experience.
So he determined that nitrous oxide is very bad.
It's a hypnotic.
It makes you too suggestible.
And you should avoid it at all costs.
Interesting.
Yeah, he writes about it in Dianetics saying it's a bad jam.
He's the only person that would do it
and not say this is great.
He had a bad time on it.
Well, let's talk about childbirth
unless you have anything else.
No.
So in Canada, in Finland, Australia,
and the United Kingdom, traditionally,
women have used this and still do today
during childbirth, up to 60% in the UK
and about 50% in those other countries.
But it's not, in the US in 2011,
less than 1% of hospitals even offered it.
I've never heard of that in the US.
Well, that's all changing now.
Basically, the medical establishment is basically saying
there's really no good reason not to.
It's just sort of stubbornness in our history
and being fixed in our ways of offering the epidural
and other kinds of drugs during childbirth.
So there's been a big push lately
to have it as an option at least for women.
Labor machines are only 50-50.
You can't even alter the setting
to go any higher than that.
And it's self-administered.
Like the woman has the mask and she breathes it
when she feels like she needs it.
And at any point, she can be like,
nope, I want the epidural.
The thing is, so epidurals can be really expensive.
Nitrous is super cheap.
It is super cheap.
And again, it's as effective as 10 to 15 milligrams
of morphine for taking care of pain.
So they're basically saying,
women should have the option at least.
If they want to try it out,
it's a lot cheaper than an epidural safer.
And they haven't epidural.
I mean, there are narcotics and epidurals.
They're a lot of side effects.
And they really haven't found any side effects
with that 50-50 mix under a controlled supervised setting.
Well, the big fear though is that-
Aside from like dizziness.
The kid is going to absorb some of this
and there's going to be neural cell death in the baby
as it's delivered.
Has that been proven wrong?
They don't think there is any danger to the kid so far
because they said it's filtered through the lungs
and not like the narcotics that are filtered to deliver.
So they said so far,
they haven't found where it hurts the baby in any way.
Plus it lets you remember being born.
I just think the self-administration part
is pretty interesting.
Yeah.
You know, it lets the woman feel more in control
supposedly of their own comfort.
Right.
So I'm all for it.
Why not?
Well, yeah.
I mean, if it doesn't have any adverse effects,
why not is a pretty good question.
You got anything else?
I got nothing else.
Nitrous oxide, N2O, Humphrey Davey, the gas.
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it's time for a listener mail.
No, Chuck.
No, no.
What is it time for?
It's time for administrative details.
So Chuck, first and foremost,
I really want to thank John Morgan
over at Queen Charlotte's Pimento Cheese Royale.
Oh, yeah?
He has hooked us up.
Good, good stuff.
Wonderful stuff.
Pimento cheese.
Like the best Pimento cheese you can buy on the planet.
Better than Palmetto cheese?
Yeah, I think so.
All right.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's good.
And there's like some,
yeah, it's really good.
Go try that stuff.
Queen Charlotte's Pimento Cheese Royale.
All right, we received Christmas cards
from the Cavanaugh's, the Lees,
the Loses, and you know,
Hillary and Mike, who we're talking to.
Oh, yeah.
They hooked us up with the cheese, too.
Yeah, with the Flathead Lake.
Flathead Lake or just Flathead Cheese?
I think it's Flathead Lake.
I think it is, too.
It's delicious.
Hillary, you're the best.
Yeah, thank you.
And the Nelsons.
So thank you for those Christmas cards.
Mike, over at Shaker and Spoon
and the rest of the gang,
I thank them before for sending the box.
Go check out Shaker and Spoon.
It's awesome.
Great gift for yourself, for somebody else.
Yeah.
Where they send you all the ingredients
you need to make cocktails, including recipes.
Oh, that's right.
You just add booze and wow your friends.
And what better time to go off a page
and thank Crown Royal when we offhandedly mentioned
that the Crown Royals, Rye Whiskey,
won the whiskey of the year.
Yeah, right.
And I was like, man, I'd love to try that.
They sent us some.
Someone heard it.
Yeah.
And they sent us six bottles of booze.
That's right.
Nice guys.
Holy cow.
Did you try it?
Not yet.
I guess you just found it today in the office.
So if you tried it, that'd be 1955.
We should mention Crown Royal basically every time.
Yeah.
Every episode.
So Crown Royal.
Ashley Miller, thank you for the wonderful Lego candy
that you gave us in San Francisco.
Yes.
Thank you for that.
And I think in Los Angeles too, remember?
She just follows us around with Lego candy.
Well, at least in California.
Yeah.
Lucy Brooks sent us a nice letter.
Good luck with the rest of the granny list.
Lucy, thank you.
Congratulations and best of luck to Allison and Chuck
for their wedding in Cleveland.
Yes.
Connor and Beatriz Marinen sent us our beautiful
wine court grief, Chuck.
Wow.
Who sent that?
Terry loves it too.
She won't set it down.
Good luck with your alcoholism.
You're right.
Just kidding.
Thanks to Eric Young from Squamish, B.C. for the typewritten letter.
Eric has a site called pigeonsandink.com where he offers the service
of writing typewritten letters on others' behalf.
Yes.
He uses the Squarespace site.
Pretty awesome stuff.
How about that?
Yep.
Kelly from the Elephant's Trunks sent us some awesome toys.
Thank you very much for those, Kelly.
Thank you to M. from Melbourne, Australia via Knoxville, Tennessee
with a homemade sourdough hot cross bun.
Yes.
That was good.
And then Elizabeth Henry sent us a signed copy of Who Killed Mr. Moonlight
by the one and only David J. of Bauhaus.
Oh, wow.
I made a joke about Bauhaus.
And Elizabeth Henry said, oh, David J. is my boyfriend's dad.
I'll get him to sign a copy of his autobiography and mail it to the guy.
Who was he in Bauhaus?
He played bass.
Wow.
Yeah.
He also had a good solo career, too.
Yeah?
Yeah.
Sean Erskine, thank you for the Stuff You Should Know Bottle Cap logo art.
That was great.
Yes.
Jeremy and Irene Camilla, K-A-M-I-Y-A sent us glass on teak, which is amazing, Chuck.
Let me just describe this.
They basically take an awesome piece of teak driftwood.
Sure.
And then blow a glass bowl so that it molds on the bottom to that specific piece of teak.
Yeah.
And then, buddy, you've got yourself a beautiful place to house a goldfish.
Use for a hurricane lamp, for a candle.
Keep your keys in there.
Maybe hold those jellybean counting contests with.
Who knows?
Sky's the limit.
But it's awesome and attractive.
And it looks really, really cool and mid-century modern.
So go check out K-A-M-I-Y-A-C-O dot com.
Dorian Wilson, owner of Revival LTD.
They make cool shirts.
And the proceeds of those shirts go to people in Brazil, displaced by the World Cup.
Is that right?
Oh, yeah.
Wow.
And you can find that information at RevivalGlobal.com.
Yes.
Johnny Wood, who works for Yakima, the outfitter, the biking outfitter.
Sure.
You know what I'm talking about.
Yeah, Yakima.
Yeah.
They make bike racks.
Thank you.
Yeah.
He sent us some swag.
Yeah, I got a took that I wear.
Yeah.
And he travels around selling Yakima stuff, which probably sells itself, you know what
I mean?
Yeah.
And he listens to us on the road.
So thanks a lot, Johnny.
This is one of my favorites of recent memory.
The Ravi Zupta.
He made the bullet pins.
Man, and he sent those so long ago, and it's so, it's, we've just been lax.
So thank you for those.
It's really neat.
He has a series called, he's an artist called the Mightier Than series.
His pen is mightier than the sword.
And he takes like bullet casings and makes these fountain pins from bullet casings.
Yes.
It's really neat.
It makes a statement and it's cool looking.
Yeah.
And he sent a nice letter from Jenny Cochran.
And that is that.
We want to thank Matt for the handmade hinge game.
H-E-N-G-E is in stone inch.
And Lori Geshe for the copy of her kid's book, Copperlight, colon, a really crappy story.
Very nice.
And she sent us some real copper lights, which is fossilized poop.
Oh, that's right.
I remember seeing that.
I have a piece tucked in my cheek right now.
Thanks to our buddy Gary for the homemade cookies.
And then Beth Vumanic Lopez sent us a copy of Unbound, colon, how eight technologies
made us human, transformed society, and brought the world to the brink by Richard L. Courier.
Thank you very much for that hard copy, no less.
In my final one, I had a bunch of people send very lovely gifts for Ruby.
Oh, yeah.
My baby when we got her.
Yeah.
And I'm not going to read off all of their names, but you know who you are.
And it was very, very nice.
You know who you are.
They do.
I've got a last one.
All right.
Which seems chumpy following that heartfelt thing.
But thanks a lot to Brett Goodson for sending us pork cloud stuff.
Pork cloud, pork grind chips, soap, and pork dust.
You're like, I'm not too big on breadcrumbs.
I'd rather them be porky.
Pork cloud has you covered.
I think that was decidedly non-chumpy.
Thank you.
It was a nice thank you.
Thanks, Brett Goodson.
Thanks.
All right.
Well, we're going to finish up.
We have quite a few more and we're going to finish up in the next episode, I think.
Yes.
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