Stuff You Should Know - Selects: Body Odor: You Stink

Episode Date: September 2, 2023

Chuck and Josh end up making reduxes of past episodes on things like sweating and deodorant in this all-new episode on the science beneath what makes people smell. Learn all about your odor in this classic episode.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hi, everybody. feature, where books are sold, or get body odor, colon, U-Stink. But you know, I don't want to yuck someone's yum. Some people like their natural musk. Let it fly if that's your deal. I don't care. Smell how you want to smell. But don't be offended if someone thinks you smell bad. Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of I Heart Radio. Hey and welcome to the podcast.

I'm Josh Clark, Charles W. Chuck and Brian's with me if my nose doesn't deceive me. I didn't do my cheeks today. That's bad luck. Do now. Thank you. I don't think that that's gonna save this episode, but it will make it from being the worst, probably, like the one that unreleased one.

Yeah, in case of break, we'll make that one we retire, that'll be our final episode. We'll go out with the whimper. That's not bad idea. Yeah, there's a lost episode everyone that only Jerry Chuck and I know about. Yeah. In case of emergency break glass episode.

It is so bad that if something happens, yeah, we release the emergency episode. That's right. Yeah, that feels good to have. Does it? Yeah, yeah, I guess so. I feel like we have a margin of error. Yeah, but of one.

Yeah. All right, Chuck, let's get this started. All right, you stink. Thank you. I stink. Yes. We all stink. Jerry doesn't stink.

Jerry smells like lilac. She does. But the, wow, you just threw me off at that one. Sorry. But your stink and my stink are unique. It's like, it's called an odor type. Right. So an odor type is, as I said, very unique. It's so unique that there is research

into figuring out how to identify somebody through their odor. Yeah, I thought that was interesting. It's like a smelly fingerprint. Yeah. And no matter what you do, it can't be masked. Like, you can't alter it to where a machine that's designed to molecularly analyze odors. Yeah. Can't say, oh, it's Josh. Oh, there's Chuck. And they're also, they're really laying on the polo cologne today for some reason Because it's 1985

That was my man. I remember the day I got a bottle of polo It was like the size of my torso and I was so excited. I only wore one cologne in my life for like Two years in high school. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Beneton colors It was a fancy pants, but I haven't worn Cologne since literally I was 17. Yeah, I went through maybe like three periods in my life where I wore Cologne for a little while and finally I'm like, I don't wear Cologne. What am I doing?

Not many guys doing more, do they? Yeah, really? At the gym I go to. It's like, get out of the sauna. Now. Wow. It's bad. Yeah, when I told you, I think one time when I lived in Arizona for a year, it may be cultural, but those dudes work alone like a lot. And hair jails, don't they? Um, I seem to remember a fair amount of dipty-dew. Yeah. Arizona is like New Jersey West.

Wow. So, anyway, we all have very distinct odor types is what it's called. Oh, and not only can you not alter it with the machine, but if you're a mouse and you try to mask your scent, other mice can still see who you are through their nose. Yeah, I saw that study. Should we tell them that the technique they use use even though I don't understand it? It involves tickling. Volatile VOCs like you get in paint, volatile organic compounds, also in your body. Which is just something that turns to gas at what we consider room temperature. Exactly. They can analyze these scents in your sweat saliva and urine using gas chromatography, mass, spectrometry.

That's good stuff. I'm glad you got hung up on that. Yeah, I don't know how that works, so I didn't have enough time to look into that. But that's what the Pentagon and the Homeland Security are using to try and sniff out terrorists. Yeah. And also, apparently, to figure out if someone's lying, because there's different kinds of sweat, there's different kinds of sweat glands. As you know, we've actually kind of covered some of this.

Remember we did it with the difference between any perspiration and deodorant? Was that me? Yes. Okay, I didn't think that was me. I thought that was me. I mean, you were wildly impressed with like, I had a theory about deodorant stocks going up. Oh, that's right. I remember hormones and milk are making kids hit puberty younger.

Yeah, yeah. In my opinion. And then with global warming, people were going to need more deodorant. So deodorant stocks were the way to go. That's not as good as my early man theory, what happened? They melted. Yeah. So I have been the Neanderthals.

These are the old days. Yeah, I think that deodorant one was like one of the 10 minute shows, wasn't it? It was pretty quick, like really early. Yeah, yeah. But we're going to revisit it because even you don't remember it, and you were in it. I remember now.

So we're going to talk about the different kinds of sweat glands because we've also talked about this before. What can you sweat colors? Yeah. But let's do it again. You want to? Sure. That was the introductory.

That's great. I love it. You know, they also have studies that say that little babies are more attracted to their mothers obviously because of their scent. And like early on, humans can sniff out their parents, which is, and I don't think it's a theory of mine. I think it's pretty well established that if you're like a smoker, even if you like, oh, I don't smoke around my kids, they still sniff that stuff out, and they are more likely

to smoke later on because of that. Is that true? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Children of smokers are way more likely to smoke. I know in studies of babies born eyeless and as worms, they will like, they'll sniff their parents out and like just wiggle over toward them,

even though they can't see, usually can't hear. It's a neat study. There's a lot of stuff in here like that. Yeah. So let's talk about the different kinds of sweat glands. Okay. You got eckering glands. Yeah, those are my favorite.

Same here, because they cool me off. Yeah, they're innocuous. Yeah. They basically just secrete water and electrolytes. Yeah. Which, if you've seen adiocracy, you know how important electrolytes are. That's right. And yeah, it's used to regulate body temperature.

Your hypothalamus says, hey, you're getting a little warm here. Let's get rid of this perspiration. The water electrolytes on your skin. When they evaporate, it's going to cool you down. You know, love it. And sweat doesn't stink. I think we've pointed that out before, but it bears repeating.

The sweat itself is not smelly. No. And I like saying that because for obvious reasons, it's well established that I'm a sweaty guy, but I'm not a smelly guy. No, you really aren't. I was thinking about this. I'm like, I was thinking about you as I was researching this.

I'm sure. And I was like, you know, Chuck doesn't smell. I've never, I've never smelled Chuck. And I've been around you when you're sweating. Yeah. Been around you when you were wearing nothing, but like shorts and a hawk's jersey. Sweating.

Sweating. Yeah. Well, you better be sweating if you wear in that. Yeah, that's because I take care of myself and do all the things that we're going to talk about, like bathing. Yes. So in Echron sweat, there's nothing to smell.

Electrolites don't smell. Right. In the other sweat gland, in Echron sweat glands there's nothing to smell. Electrolites don't smell. Right. In the other sweat gland, in Echron sweat glands are found all over your body. The other sweat glands, apocrine sweat glands. Yeah, those are gross. They don't smell either. I know what you're saying.

Like you produce sweat, but it has a lot more than just water and electrolytes. Yeah. Chuck, anytime a cell excretes waste, poop something out, and move, or is destroyed through maybe auto-lisus or whatever. There's a lot of little cellular detrius, and that stuff has to leave the body because you don't want it to build up. You want to get rid of your broken-up dead cells.

They enter secretory cells in the skin and hike along with your sweat. So the avocrynd sweat is a means of disposal, cellular detrius disposal in your body. But even that doesn't smell. Yeah, what produces the smell? Well, and we did cover this before, but it is bacteria that basically eats those proteins that we sweat out, and then they poop them out, essentially. They poop out fatty acids that stink. That's great. That's the smell.

It's not us, it's the local flora, the bacteria. I'm not even like the word flora. I know, and it doesn't even make sense because bacteria aren't plants Right, and even if they were plants flora apparently refers to multicellular plants. Oh really? Yeah But they call local flora bacteria's local flora and Little protozoa. Yeah, yeah on your body. Those are called fauna local fauna and I can't figure out why Well, I bet the answers out there. I looked man. Really? Yeah, if anybody knows I this is the one I'd really like to know from this episode

Well, what we do know is that these nasty apocrynglands are Found in some pretty unfortunate places like you're growing are found in some pretty unfortunate places like your groin, or your groin, and your armpits, your armpits. What is it? Excellent. And your hands and your feet. For those. That's where you're going to smell.

And your feet, interestingly, the reason they don't smell quite like your armpits is because they also produce fungus in addition to the bacteria pooping out fatty acids. Yeah. And that's why your foot odor's gonna be a little different. It's not really coincidence that like all of these places are hairy, well except for your hands. Yeah. And I guess the souls of your feet,

but your armpits and your groin are hairy. I'm five years old, I'm sorry. Naturally, they're hairy. Yes. And when we wear shoes, we socks, whatever, we are providing like these great places for bacteria to thrive and eat this stuff to their hearts content. But it takes about an hour, apparently. Yeah, that's a good news.

So when you start sweating apocrine, cell detrius through your armpits, it takes about an hour for the local bacteria to digest. I mean, they'll eat it immediately, but then they lay around, have a CESDA. Yeah, watch a little time. Then they wake up and they're like, I've got a poop. Yeah, and they poop and then you start smelling. The other gross thing, and there will be many gross things, but to me, one of the gross things is the Echringlands, secret kind of, you know, a clear liquid, but the Apachringlands

excrete liquid that can be thicker and milky and yellow, which is why if you've ever had the old mustard stains on the undershirt, which are really unsightly. They are. That means it's time to get rid of that undershirt. Yes, it is. Or if you're like me, then it's time to keep wearing it until it's crunchy. Oh, yes.

I know the crunchy you're talking about. Yeah, I think that's the deodorant as well. I hope so. In combination with the milky yellowish secretions. Yeah. God. Yeah, so that's the gross stuff. Yellowish secretions. Yeah, God. Yeah, so that's the gross stuff. That's where your pit stains come from.

Yeah. And the smell also, one of the big guys of the smell world, as far as the waste products that the local flora are producing is E3 methyl-2 hexaneoic acid. That's what's making you smell friends. That's the one. It's one of. And the bacteria that's producing this are called micro-coxide or staphilocoxi.

And like I said, this is where they love living in your armpits. And I don't know if they live in our armpits like over time, they've become attracted to human armpits through evolution like they're like, oh, well, this is where we eat. So we live here. Right. And they never learned you should never poop where you eat. They do the whole gambit, you know? Yeah, yeah.

Or poop where you live. Yeah. But, no, it's poop where you eat. I think it's both. Is it? Yeah. Yeah, okay. I wonder if they were attracted to humans over time because I mean, are we born with these things

in our underarms? I don't know. How do we pick them up? How soon after birth do we pick them up? Well, I don't think we're born because newborn babies don't have the applicant sweat. You're right. So that's why little babies smell delicious

and less they're pooping, which is like an ungodly thing. What is wrong with babies? I know. So weird. So yes, you're right. We aren't born with apocrynglianns. We develop them around puberty. You probably won't start the body odor, the B.O. as my mom always called it till puberty, till your teen years. And that's when you start getting stinky. And so it's not just, there's not just a difference between little kids, between teens and tweens. Yeah.

Right? Twins don't stink, teens stink. That's right. Supposedly, there's a distinction among races. This is highly controversial. Is it? Yes. It's not nearly as cavalier as it might seem. In this article. You can't just say like, oh well, Asians are the least stinky. There is a wall. If you were epicingling. Supposedly. Here's the problem. Okay, here's the problem that the field of anthropology has with this. It's possible that there are differences among races.

But you could break it out even further. Is it food-based? Is it diet-based? So if you are in northern India and you're eating less curry than Southern India, or vice versa, I can't... Whatever. So, are all Indians... All Indians share a similar smell that's more pungent than say Europeans?

You can't. And even within that, it's like, how many vegetarians are there that hate curry? That look at India. Well, the reason you point out curry we should point out is because that's mentioned specifically in the article as one of the more highly pungent foods that will eventually come out in your sweat. Exactly. Like garlic. Right.

But the, I guess the point is, is when you differentiate among people, whether it's smell, especially if something is unpleasant as body odor, then you are creating a disparity. You're propagating the possibility of racist attitudes, because if this person is different from me and how we smell, how else is that person different? Sure. Maybe I don't really like that person. Well, it's not even endorsement. Well, you just have to be careful with it.

Plus, the other problem is most of the research that is cited these days for difference among races and body odor was last compiled in the 1930s. And then also, for example, like agents have fewer axillary glands. Do they? I don't know. When's the last time anyone checked?

And then some of the other old data suggests that half an estimated half of Koreans don't even have axillary glands. So they couldn't even sweat if they tried, you know? Right. You see the point? So you're saying it's just hinky data. It's hinky old data. Old data.

Man, you're not supposed to cite data over 10 years old. Well, why don't we just as a show as a part of the public specter say, some people stink some and some people don't? Yeah, people are people. Some stink some don't. So why should it be? Jerry like that one. She saw where that was headed. Yeah. Men definitely are stinkier than women. No, that is true. In general, we don't mind a little sexism, especially when we're throwing it on ourselves. That's stinky men.

But it's not sexism because it's true, and it's not, I mean, there's no disparaging that comes along with that, right? That's true. But, and this is actually backed up by some science. We have more testosterone, which is going to up your production of the apocrine sweat, which is gonna lead to stinking us. Another theory is that women are more efficient regulators

of their body temperature because they have less core heat going on, because less muscle and fat than us dudes. And conversely, you can make the case that men are more efficient at Cooling their themselves. Yeah, yes, what true because women don't just don't sweat as much and I thought this was really interesting And so did Emily because I was throwing some stuff at her today while I was researching okay women actually need One degree higher body temperature in order to start sweating to begin with yeah I thought that was interesting and must be significant.

I found a... That's sound like... A hypothesis that, that's based on her is attached to that, that's that women have less body fluid than men. Oh yeah. And so it evolved to sweat less. Okay. That makes sense.

And so that would be the mechanism that that evolution is taking the form of. Well, lucky ladies is what I say. But what's interesting is no, because if you are working out and you're a lady, you suffer. You stay hotter, longer. Yeah, yeah. You get hotter. And there's a study in Japan of all places,

because they can't even sweat, you know? Right. That where they found that women could train themselves just by working out a bunch like forming a workout routine over time to start sweating earlier Right, then women who were just like working out for the first time got you. Yeah Well, since you brought up Japan. This is a sidebar, but we'll throw it in there. Okay And I thought this is interesting apparently they take their their sweating and their stink pretty seriously over there

Because they have a couple of interesting products. One company, Aoki, has developed a deodorant suit that uses a fabric with silver ions and pregnated in it to fight off this bacteria just by wearing it. And then they think they have determined a cosmetic company. Think they have found the fatty acid responsible for old people's smell, which I thought was really mean to say. And Noneal is the fatty acid in Japan, they call old people smell, carry issue, and they are trying to combat that.

And I guess, if Shiseido is. Grandkids all over the world are just going to be like spraying their grandparents with the stuff when they walk in. Or when you inherit the house, you just walk around and spray, carry a shoe off. True. It's interesting though, I went over to my mom's last night and I realized that her home,

it's not the house I grew up in, this is she's been there for a while though, probably 15 years. It smells like my grandparents house that I went to growing up in Tennessee. Huh, that's interesting. Like a lot like it. And I don't know, I mean, it's got to have something to do with heredity or maybe products or furniture or their shoes, some of their stuff to it.

Otortypes are genetically based. Yeah. So, I mean, it would make sense that your mom inherited some of her older type from her parents. It's not at all. It's what? It was very comforting though. It's like, wow, it's so sad. Oh yeah, man, I'll bet.

Grand Eddie sounds so you. Unless your grandparents stunk like oxen, I'm sure it's very comforting. Yeah, or were abusive and hated my guts. Yes, that's not true. You're like, the scent of Gardinia makes you like drop into the fetal position. You never hear that of abusive grandparents. That would be the worst thing ever. I'm sure there are some.

There's a God of be out there. Yeah, but you don't hear about it much. Yeah. Thank God. Thank God everybody keeps that secret. I've been around some mean old people though, so. You know what? Everyone has that capacity.

It's true, and that's why I quit Boy Scouts in protest. Oh, you had a mean old person? No, I just didn't like the idea of respecting your elders, no matter what. I was like, no, I think person has to earn respect. Agreed. Thank you. All right. I've finally vindicated after all these years. We did talk about this and another podcast about women able to pick up.

I think when we talked about it before, it was a study about women able to pick up clues through scent about whether or not someone's a good reproductive partner. Yeah, like the D- Like they would have a different immune system than you, so they put them together in form of super baby. Uh-huh. Definitely one that wasn't born without eyes and with a worm like body. We also kind of debunk that.

Oh, did we? Yeah, the research we found was that we don't even have the capacity to detect pheromones any longer. Most humans don't. So that whole idea is a little... There was... It's hit or miss. There's some studies that suggested, yes, this is true, others that didn't. If you read the release, though, on this study that this guy's talking about, the Monelle Center study. Yeah, the researchers just totally

left to a conclusion. I hate those studies. They were like, women can differentiate. Like, it's tougher to mask a man's odor to a woman. And he basically said, air go, women can detect body odor better. Which means that they must be detecting like something, like immune system robustness or something.

Right. It was like, where did you get this extra stuff? You know? that they must be detecting something like immune system robustness or something. It was like, where did you get this extra stuff? It's going crazy. I'm on a tirade today. With that research. Yeah. I'm sorry, everyone. I'm very sorry. So, Noro and I hearts my Gultura podcast network, present, Princess of South Beach, Season 2.

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And so you can keep a little piece of the other person to sniff. I thought that was really sweet. Yeah. If not a bit gross. And you said that it might be bunk like you can find resources. I found virtually no support for this and everything I found was like not a reliable site. no support for this and everything I found was like not a reliable. Right. And then Austrian Tyrol, which is a very specific place to BS about, but they supposedly men would dance with handkerchiefs in their tucked under their arms and their armpits.

And I guess work up a real sweat and then be like, you and point to the girl who's going for him, wave the handkerchief under her nose and she would swoon and they get married and point to the girl who's gone for him, wave the hanker to your thunder and nose, she would spoon and they'd get married and have babies in that order. Wow. And so you couldn't find verification for that either, right? No. Same thing.

By found even less for that. What about the last one? This one appears to be true. All right, I misinterpreted this because I told Emily this one this morning that in Elizabethan times they would soak, peel the apples in their armpit sweat and give them to their lover when they parted. And I, for some reason, took the leap

to mean that they would eat them. And I thought it was a grossessing it ever heard. I thought that too. And Emily was like, no, I don't think they eat them. I think they just keep them. But they're called love apples, by the way. Well, that's not what I call love apples. What do you call love apples? Apples that, you know, you give to the teacher on their desk. Yeah, because they're good. Seems odd, that's an apple for the teacher. That's not a love apple.

It's because you love your teacher. Were you homeschooled by your mom? No, I wasn't. But my dad was my principal. I know. I don't know. Did they eat them? They just kept them. I'm sure some sicko ate them. And how did they ask her wild ate them? How do they collect enough? How do they collect enough underarm sweat to soak them is what I want to know. Oh, here's a Victorian. This is Elizabethan. Soak it up in a hanky and ring it out, maybe?

No, I think they just sat there for a while and like, um, but it doesn't like drip out. If you're dripping kind of and rubbing around. All right. Who knows? We'll try it. We'll try and make a video of it. Oh, so maybe they would rub the apple on their underarm.

That would make sense. Yeah. I imagine they collected. It's like hover over a table with an apple on it. Well, no, I imagine they collected the underarm sweat in a dish and then soaked it in that, but that's why I was thinking, just ignore me, for the rest of the show. What was it?

Was it a kids in the hall where they had like, some guy's body odor was so beautiful that like they had this guy, like some perfume company bought him basically and they had him running on a treadmill and it was either Mr. Show or kids in the hall. It was hilarious. Not cabbage head clearly. No, no.

You know, it was like a segment, like an additional segment, you know, that you can tell where they're like, they put some money into it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. One of those. All right. Where are we?

Oh, I did think this was interesting. The term B.O. of, comes from an advertising agency. Oh, yeah. It didn't surprise me at all. 1919, Odo, Rono, Deodorant. Yeah. They, uh, and I love how this ad goes. Remember that wonderful man you met, the way he danced,

and the telephone number he asked for, and never used. You should take the arm hole odotest. Stinky. Yeah, like he's stinky woman. That's why the man didn't call you back. That's why you're an 18 year old spinster. Wow. So yeah, products in 1919 were not afraid to be sexist jerks.

No, and I went back and I remember this back in 1888, they released a product called Mum, and think back with me to the antiperspirant deodorant one. You had to apply it with like a swab on a stick, and it worked, but it also would like burn a hole through your clothes. And that was the first deodorant, right? Yes.

Wow. Mum, I think it was still around for a while. Well, and Tussi, what was that? I don't know. Or what was the sprinkled a day one? Just a sprinkle a day. Was that for underarms or was that for feet? Have you had your sprinkled a day?

It was like a general body deodorant. Just sprinkled your body. Yeah. Like gold bond. Yeah. I like the gold bond though. Oh, yeah. That's a life saver with certain things. So, so Chuck. Yes. Have you ever seen that one Simpsons where the Homer and Marge have their kids taken away from them? Yes. And they have to go to the the government parenting class. Yeah. That's what this next segment is going to feel like.

What do you do if you find that you have body odor? Well, one thing you can do, Josh, because interestingly, animals would use their scent to broadcast and it would get tangled up in the hair, so it would stick around a little longer. So obviously, if you have hair and like you're growing, what you do and your underarms, I could point it out, the smell is gonna stick around longer. So if you keep that area trim,

then, um, you're less likely to have odor in those places. Yes, that's good advice. And I'm a, I'm a believer in keeping your body, uh, neat as a general rule, regardless of the scent factor. Right. That's good advice. And I'm a believer in keeping your body neat as a general rule, regardless of the scent factor. Right. You know, take care of yourself. Well, yeah, manage your ear hair, your nose hair.

And there is nothing shameful about a man getting a manicure and or petty cure. Yeah, okay. That was supportive. Well, I mean, it has nothing to do with body out, or sure. There is nothing wrong. It's taking care of yourself. Well, I don't have, I bite my fingernails,

so there's really kind of no point for me. You know, remember Carrie Grant took a bunch of acid? Yeah. Well, these Uncle John's bathroom reader published like a list of like some of his best quotes while he was tripping, and the psychiatrist just like wrote him down. Yeah.

And one of them was, if I have to look at a man, shouldn't he have to comb his hair and brush his teeth? So Carrie Grant was big time in to take and carry yourself to him. Wow. And look what happened to him. He had a long successful life. Exactly.

He's an acting legend. Bathing Josh, we said it takes an hour for the bacteria to do its thing. So, if you've got a big interview or something, you're a little nervous. Take that shower less than an hour. Yeah, because I don't know if we mentioned this. Echorin sweat is triggered by body temperature. Apocrin sweat gland is triggered by emotion. Yeah, we didn't actually. Anxiety, specifically, is a big one that makes you start sweating.

Yeah, boy, I sweat it a lot when I interviewed here. Oh my God, it was July. Yeah, me too. And it was so hot. That was August, yeah. And I couldn't figure out where this building was. It's kind of like just said, it's like by Lennox. Yeah, I don't know.

So I parked it at Lennox Mall and walked in like a hundred degree heat. Yeah, I mean, like half mile. And it was like my shirt was like a dark blue, even though it's supposed to be light blue. And I'm like, hey, I'm here to be interviewed by you. Yeah, I remember the shirt I wore too. And it was light blue, which was a big mistake. I don't know when I was sinking. And I have not dressed that nice at this job since that day, which is I think how it should

go at every job. Wait a minute. Are you wearing a suit, Brown? No. No. I should punch you for saying that. I didn't wear a tire and anything, and it was like a nice shirt and pants.

Gotcha. But look at me now. I'm glad you didn't punch me, by the way, then. What are some natural remedies, Josh, to avoiding this kind of thing? If you're not into the chemicals? Borg acid, 20 mule team or good friends at 20 mule team. Yeah.

A little sprinkle, a little powder under the arms. Yeah, it's actually a low level acid. Yeah. And I think probably what it does is just makes your armpits inhospitable, local flora. There you go. Yeah. Vinegar, which is just like the most amazing thing in the history of the world.

Do you drink that stuff? No, I mean, we use vinegar for like everything. You mean it's got me into like drinking diluted vinegar. Drinking it, that's a day. Weed killer and keweeds, you know? Like big time. Yeah. Like any, not any, but many, many chemical remedies. Like, not any, but many, many chemical remedies. I bet you if you look up on these home spun websites, some kind of vinegar might help you out as well. Well, it's changing the pH, any time you change the pH,

that's something that's accustomed to, probably going to just die. Which hazel? Yeah, I like that smell. Do you, I can't stand it, I like it. Woof. Baking soda, as the article points out, it works in your fridge, so it'll work on your arm bits.

Yeah. I've never done that ideally. Theoretically. Rosemary oil. Yeah. That'll loot that in some water. Little sprinkle on your underarms. Have you done that one?

No. You know, it does work those. Tea tree oil. All right. Because it's an antimicrobial. Right. So it's just going to go in there and destroy everything at C's. That'll dry out pimples too, big time.

Well since we're on deodorant, we might as well talk about some of the controversies with antiperspirant. Well, let's just give a brief overview of the difference between the two. What's the difference between deodorant and antiperspirant? Well, antiperspirate contains things like aluminum, and what's the other one? Aluminum's the big one. Hydro, hydroxy bromide.

Yeah, hydroxy bromide. And they will essentially close up your sweat glands so they don't work. It plugs them for a little while. And not only, no, eventually, like, I mean, they, it is overall temporary, but the length of time between the application and the time you would start sweating again becomes longer and longer with repeated use,

because it actually shuts down your apricot gland. Like it plugs it, swells it, and basically says, all right, I'm done trying. I worry about it some, to be honest. A lot of people do. A lot of mind can do. It's 25%. Yeah, which is a lot. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah, that's a lot, dude. I know. And yeah, there's been plenty of studies that have linked aluminum to breast cancer. Yeah. And aluminum has been shown to mutate cells into cancer cells. But there's never been like the smoking gun like, oh yes, this person has breast cancer because they

use deodorant. Well, yeah, and the cancers are hard to nail that to because there are so many things that could be contributing. Sure. And there's so many different types of cancer. Yeah, exactly. And. And then also with Alzheimer's. What? Alzheimer's. Yeah, but I think that's just a general link, a general tenuous link between Alzheimer's and aluminum. I'm surprised that the studies are from the 1960s.

Surely they've done something since then. I don't know. I think everybody's been focused on BPAs. Oh, really? Well, all the breast cancer links are newer than that, but there's just no one's been able to produce a study that's definitively linked deodorants or any persimmon I should say to breast cancer. Right.

But there's a strong correlation. There are chalky deodorants. There are the liquid jelly types. You don't see the aerosols anymore. And then there's the disgusting roll on that I'm not sure who uses it still. I don't know either. Didn't Tussi make a roll on? I think so. Ban, Ban was big. I think they innovated the roll on stick. Oh, did they? Sure. And then also we should say deodorants are, they're different from antiperspirants in that. They don't stop you from sweating, but they make it so that when all your cell detrius reaches

the skin surface in your underarms, there's no local Florida eat it. And then produce terrible smells as a waste. Yeah, correct. Tom's of Maine. Yeah. It's very popular natural deodorant. I love that app or count one. That my underarms laugh at.

And then the crystal stuff, that makes your underarms too salty for the bacteria to live, right? It's like a mineral crystal deodorant. I've never used this. So do you want to talk about any of that? It's not necessarily body odor from sweating, but there are some other smells that one can produce. Like asparagus, pee.

If you are interested in learning about why asparagus can make your pee smell, you should check out our video podcast, because we explained it. That's right, you specifically explained it. We did it together. And I think it was only a percentage of people believe that their pee smells. Don't give it away smells don't don't give it away. Okay, but if you want to find that you can find it on iTunes Just look for stuff. You should know his video podcast. That's right

You could also find it on our SS feed on how stuff works is short and kind of fun Like we're having a good time doing them. Yeah, and they're really loose and like man. They are so loose Yeah, the things we're getting away with saying I don't think people understand. Yeah. So okay. Oh, so you've got a sparrows pee. You have maple syrup urine disorder. We've talked about that too. Yeah, it's a real thing and there's no other clinical term for it. Like that is the name of it. And it's actually kind of a big deal. Like you have problems with your metabolism, it's a metabolic disease. And these amino acids can build up and kill you,

if you're not careful. Yeah, and it's in kids. And I think adults have a similar condition. You can make it to adulthood. Okay, but it won't smell like maple syrup anymore. It'll smell like, say it. You say burnt sugar. I'm not sure what that smells like. I've never, it's sure like, oh what's that wonderful dessert? Crembrille. Oh, well that's lovely. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, no one's complaining about

the smell of their pee, but it's very worrisome. Gotcha. You know? Okay. If you were around a diabetic, a person with diabetes, who suffers from ketoacidosis, you might say that they smell a bit like nail polish remover and that their breath smells kind of fruity. And like juicy fruit kind of. Gotcha. And then what else, Chuck? Fish Oour syndrome? Yeah. That means you lack the ability to metabolize something called TMA and that apparently smell like fish. I don't know what kind of fish, but it's fishy. Yeah. And that's pretty what are they call that? I'm daring you to try and say that word. Tri-Methyl-M in Urea. Nice.

Thank you. That is the word. That's the primary tri-Methyl-M in Urea. And that is the condition, which means you can't metabolize the TMA and that means you will smell like fish. Yeah. And then if you have phenyl-ken-ter-tonuria, you might have a barn-like smell, musty barn-like smell.

Can you imagine if you had the fish odor disease, you sweat blue and you had that condition that makes your face silver, what kind of life would that be? That'd be a heck of a ride. I'm praying that none of those things are compatible. I mean, it's possible. The blue skin thing, that's just from too much copper, right? Yeah, so there could be some comorbidity there. For silver.

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Just like leaking water. And there's a variety of things you can do to treat that. From surgery to ion topharisi, which is using an electrical current to disable your sweat glands. Right. You can also have them surgically removed. Yeah. I wouldn't mind that from the neck up. Really? Yeah, because that's where my sweat bothers me. I don't mind like sweaty body, but when you're like, oh, you know, you can get Botox to fix that. No, thanks. Well, it works.

No. There's also infected my face. I do have one more thing, brom's well works. No, there's also I do have one more thing brome hydrophobia I thought that was interesting. So it's the fear of sweating. Oh I thought it was a fear of stink. Oh, yeah, you're right. It's a fear of stinking from sweating. Yes, brome hydrosis is yeah your body odor. Yeah. Yeah, you're right Chuck and somebody who suffers from brome hydrophobia Right, Chuck. And somebody who suffers from bromiderophobia will take a lot of showers every day and to the point where it's been linked akin to OCD,

but there's no other behavior except for taking showers or trying to, or your fear of smelling. It's not, you're not messing with light switches or anything else, too. It's just the fear of smelling. I have not, you're not messing with light switches or anything else too. It's just this fear of smelling. I have that with poop smell, specifically. Do you? Oh man, if I walk in the bathroom

and someone's taking care of things, I like leave immediately. Or I will often put my shirt over my nose. And I do that when I clean out the litter box and when I do the dog poop on the walks, I put my shirt, I can't stand that. Yeah, because anybody who's seen the ice storm knows that like those are the volatile, organic compounds of your poop that you're smelling.

That's what the odor is. It's your poop. What was that about ice storm? I've seen that movie 10 times. Some kids says it like in like a school report. Oh really? I don't remember that part. I've never seen the movie I know that.

Oh man, it's great. I've heard, yeah. Ang Lee, great director of the Hulk. Yeah. Yeah. So what else? I got nothing else. Let's stop talking about this then.

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Through college, I was really active in fencing. The sport generated by the ancient duels and honor code you guys mentioned. One interesting symptom from engaging and fencing through, though, was an ultra critical eye on swordplay shown in films. Movies like Star Wars, Pirates of the Caribbean, and Highlander are examples of what is called quote, showfencing. The art of making the largest flashiest attacks without ever threatening either actor.

Show fencing is sometimes slang as flinning after Aral Flynn. Or Mark Hameling. Hameling. He says that Aral Flynn pioneered this technique. Yeah, he was a swashbuckler. He was. And still is, I think. Well, he's dead. He lives on now he was a swashbuckler. He was. And still is, I think.

Well, he's dead. He lives on now. It's a swashbuckler. Sure. If you or your listeners want to see excellent representations of Hollywood showing true fencing, I have two recommendations. First is the black and white version of the three musketeers. I think it's from 1948.

I can guess the other one. Riding in cars with boys. How to lose a guy in 10 days. The rapier duel on the staircase at the tail end of the film is still admired as some of the best fencing on film to this day. The other film I'd recommend, and we got a few people to tell us about this one, is Ridley Scott's directorial premiere 1977's The Dualists, based on the true story of two Napoleon area, Napoleon era French officers with a feud lasting for decades.

The film accurately shows multiple types of duels and weapons, including foil, cavalry, saver, pistols, just an even few. For-foils, the really thin, long, thin fencing. I think so, yeah. I'm gonna go out in a limb and say that without looking it up. Well, we got some corrections coming too, by the way. The film is simply a must for those who want to see great fencing and accurate dueling. And that is from Josh.

Well, that's from me. Yeah, thanks me. Thanks, Josh. While we're on this, that jogged my memory, the dueling reminded me of a movie that we, well, not just a movie, wow, I'm a hick. A movie and a book that we left out of the Revenge podcast, The Count of Monte Cristo. Oh, sure. I don't know how we did that,

because that is like the quintessential Revenge plot. Yeah, that's true. That, and also I wanted to say in the beer episode, I wrongly attributed the superhuman hoppiness to one of the guys in the band, superhuman happiness, when really it was a superfan named Kurt Schlachter. So sorry, Kurt. Well, and since we're on that,

you also called New Belgium New Amsterdam. Oh yeah, that was a big one. I'm really sorry guys. They've even sent us here before. I know. New Belgium makers of fine fat tire, 1664. Now that's Cronenberg.

Let's just stop right here. Sorry guys. And you do have to pay all kinds of money for covering songs too, by the way. That was completely wrong. Okay. Yeah, that was a huge sidebar in the... Yeah. Like they would spell it out like, no, you don't have to spend money to...

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