Stuff You Should Know - Short Stuff: BM Radio

Episode Date: July 2, 2025

There was a time – a glorious time – when you could turn the dial in any city in the US and hear popular songs rearranged to be the most pleasant version of themselves. This was the Beautiful Music format and we are spiritually poorer for having lost it.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm Josh, and there's Chuck and Jerry's here, too. And this is Short Stuff, the rootinest, tootinest, down-home, sarsaparilla-drinkin' podcast on the planet. That's right. Welcome to WSYSK, your source of all the smooth podcasting sounds. That was great, Chuck. You have a future in radio. Oh, great. I hear there's a bright future in radio.

So we are talking radio. That's why you just did that. And we're talking about a specific kind of radio, but we should kind of go back a little bit to the beginning because it occurred I should, it occurred to me that there are people who listen to us, they won't even know what we're talking about with AM and FM. But if you know enough about radio, there were two bands, the AM band and the FM band, and when you, if you grew up in the late 70s, 80s, 90s, you knew that AM radio was as square as a Rubik's cube. you knew that AM radio was as square as... A Rubik's Cube. Yes. And the FM radio was where it was at.

But it turns out that when FM radio first came on the scene in the 60s and then early 70s, it was square. And AM radio was where it was at. That's where you'd hear hits and rock and stuff like that. FM was so super square that it actually gave birth to what we consider easy listening music today. By the way, I know this is going to be kind of a long one, but I still have to say this. When you were just stumped on trying to think of a square thing, all I could think of was

the little Homer Simpson bubble above your head with just like a donut. Or that black and white donkey swatting flies with his tail. That one always gets me. No, I thought of a Citra Wilson quote that I just can't say, but it's hilarious. All right, well, tell me later. Okay. All right, so you left off that AM radio is square,

FM radio was where the Rockets were. I think you said the opposite. Well, if you grew up like we did, they did a switcheroo. And early on, AM radio was the cool one, and FM was the upstart that was trying to find its way. Yeah, and so FM essentially gave birth to that easy listening music,

which is also called elevator music. Some people call it good music, but the type of music format that we're going to talk about today is known as beautiful music, and it is a great name for a great kind of music if you ask me. Yeah and you know if you heard our Musac episode we talked a lot about this stuff. Musac is of course a proprietary eponym or aka a company right? Right. Or did I use that

right? Yeah. Yeah okay but. But beautiful music is that. It is like, let's take a pop hit of the day, like a Beatles song or something, and let's arrange it as a orchestral arrangement. A lot of strings. We'll either do pop hits or maybe we'll do old standards from like the Great American Songbook.

And we're gonna make it super polished, very easy on the ears. We're gonna remove the vocals almost always. And instead of the singing, there's gonna be a flute or a clarinet or something as the singing voice. Or if it does have human voices singing, it's probably gonna be like a chorus

just singing a little bit of it here and there. Yeah, or doing that kind of singing that the vocalist does on the Star Trek theme, where she's just using her voice as an instrument. I don't know the Star Trek theme. What? I don't. I've probably heard it, but I can't call up like,

oh yeah, that thing. It goes, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. It turns out I do know that, actually. Yeah. do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do or beautiful music, so they would have like the Raycon of singers sing the song and provide the vocals. Like this is how softened they would take these songs and make them, and I mean, if it was done right, even like the Hardest Core punk, even the members of Crass would hear that song and be like,

I'm not going to admit this out loud, but that is actually beautiful music. Are you going out of limb and saying that everybody likes this stuff? I, no, not, no, no, no, not as a genre for sure. I'm just saying there were some, there's this one version of What's New Pussycat that is way better than any version. Tom Jones, Burt Bacharach, it's so good

that I really think that basically anybody could hear and be like, this is a great song. It actually is great, whether they'd admit it or not, but I don't think that that would automatically convert them to beautiful music. I'm just saying in some instances done perfectly, it really is beautiful music. All right, well pressing forward.

The BM format really took off because of an FCC ruling in 1965 that said, if you are a company that has AM stations and FM stations, you got to play different stuff. Because at the time, there were companies that are like, hey, this is great. We can just broadcast the same thing on AM and FM and get ads on AM and also get different ads on FM and essentially double down on our product. And that's like the opposite of what they were trying to do with FM to begin with. So the FCC came around in 65, said you can't do this anymore, you've got to play different stuff.

And so beautiful music came along and said, hey, this is a pretty cheap solution. It's going to be sell a lot of ads because it's going to be directly aimed at women, especially housewives, because you know what they're doing. They're at home all day doing the housework, listening to music, and this will make them happy while they're doing their housework. They're going to have it on the background and we're going to pump ads in there for all the stuff that they're making the buying decisions over, which is household stuff. Yeah, because they were the target demographic of advertisers making the buying decisions over, which is the household stuff.

Yeah, because they were the target demographic of advertisers at the time. They bought most of the stuff that advertisers were selling. They made those day-to-day decisions about purchases. So they were what teenagers are today, as far as the target demo, right? And it was just basically assumed and presumed that women would not want anything intrusive or jarring or something.

They just wanted smooth, beautiful music. So much so that a version of this was called Music Only for a Woman. That's what the industry called it, M.O.W., right? The thing is, despite the fact that this was set up to advertise to women directly, beautiful music as a whole, as a format on the radio, actually, I guess the best way to put it, is mellowed out as far as advertising goes,

and was very protective and defensive of the listener experience, which meant cutting down on ads and doing all sorts of other interesting things to ads too. Yeah, there was a company in particular that came along called Shulki Radio Productions, SRP, and they became like the biggest player in syndication, like being a syndication company for the BM format because they offered, they were like, here, we're going to send you these ready-to-play reel-to-reel tapes. It's all programmed. You just slap that sucker on these ready to play reel to reel tapes. It's all programmed.

You just slap that sucker on there and push play and you're set. And they said, this sounds great. And they said, oh, but wait a minute. If you want to use our stuff, like we're audio files. So we want the listening experience to be great and we want it to be kind of perfect. So you've got to update your broadcasting equipment because we're sending you high quality tapes and they need to come across that way. You've got to hire an engineer that really knows what they're doing and make sure this is all going to go as we say it goes. And those ads, those 16 minutes of ads an hour that you're playing, you can only do

six minutes of those an hour. And when you do, you've got to have those lower in volume than the music even and all the stuff you should know, listeners stood up and cheered. Yeah, it's true because they found that if you had the radio on a low enough volume those ads at six decibels less were like you couldn't even hear them sometimes at a certain volume threshold even though you could still hear the music and there was another thing about the ads too. They're like you cannot use attention-grabbing tactics to advertise. And in some cases some of these local radio stations had to go back to their advertisers and be like crazy Murray we're gonna have to tone

this down quite a bit. Yeah. And like they had to rerecord rewrite ads to follow these Shulky standards. And the reason that Shulky could get away with this was because they were selling not just like Pre-recorded tapes that you can just put on and have your radio station. They were selling what Musak did it as well that there was a scientific basis to this that Like followed the rhythm of the day and like built up and crested and then waned and then built up and crested and waned just like Musak The thing is is just like Muzak.

The thing is, is just like Muzak, that was essentially totally made up. But Sholky still had the data to prove it. People who listened to beautiful music radio listened essentially all day. Yeah, feels like a good time for a break. Agreed. And we'll be right back to finish up with BM radio right after this

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to do it. Listen to American History Hotline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All the stuff we learned from Josh and Chuck, stuff you should know. All right, we're back. I think where we left off, Shulki was doing pretty good business. Crazy Murray was reduced to slightly eccentric Murray. And they were selling like hotcakes and they had the ratings to prove it, like you said, even though the science was not true and they were listening for hours and hours and hours, but that posed a problem

or I guess presented a problem, which was, hey, they're listening for so many hours a day, they're just having to hear the same playlist in order basically when it loops back around and We can't get these tapes out the door fast enough to you guys So people have like a you know Because they were concerned about the listener experience and certainly listening to a playlist on a loop is not a good one No, and so some companies came along that said alright. Well, let's just start hiring conductors and arrangers and putting together our own stuff Until a company called Bonneville came along with a really unique idea, right?

Yeah, Bonneville did what Schilke did. You would get pre-recorded tapes of beautiful music from them, but you also had to have essentially a random automatic tape player that would select a tape, a song from a tape at random. So even though you had the same same set of say 50 songs, there was never going to be a playlist

over the course of like say 12 hours that was the same as before. Same songs here and there, but never the same entire playlist starting over every 12 hours. Yeah, so they send tapes and packages. Tapes and tapes. Tapes and tapes, oh man, I miss those guys. And then yeah, I mean, pretty good technology at the time

to randomly select and cue up different songs. So it was a pretty big leap forward. Well, beautiful music itself was basically an incubator for figuring out how to standardize and automate radio. That's where, that's the cradle of it, is beautiful music, weirdly enough. Yeah, and it spread throughout the country as a format. Every city had at least one station.

If you were a big city, you probably had a few. A lot of times it was like, you know, in Detroit, WJLI, like very mellow call signs. They just wanted to really put out, like brand themselves as BM radio because it was such a big deal, but it wasn't a big deal for that long because, you know, buying power shifted as rock and roll came along and younger listeners became the dominant sort of listener of radio. And one by one, they kind of, you know, BM radio stations switched over, which is a very

jarring thing for any radio station format change. I'm sure we've all suffered those where you're like, well, I can't listen to this station anymore because you're just not the same radio station. Do you remember the opposite happening when 99X came out in the early 90s and they played like the Smiths and it was like, what are the Smiths doing on the radio?

This is awesome. Yeah, because 99 in Atlanta before that was sort of cheesy pop, and all of a sudden it was alternative music, which was the first true alternative station in Atlanta. Yeah, like truly alternative too, especially at first. Yeah, I was a 96 rock kid, but then. Oh yeah?

Yeah, but when 99X came along, I was into that. But then 99X got really bad too. Right, but at first it was pretty great. No, I agree, because you couldn't hear The Smiths on the radio unless you went left of the dial, which I was doing with the great Album 88. Oh, Album 88, guys, I feel bad for anybody who didn't live in Atlanta while Album 88 was on the air.

It was so great, It had the best shows. They played the best like regular rotation music. Like it was a great, great radio station. And like you can't find it anywhere. Nobody's archived it sadly enough. I think they still have it on the weekends. Do they? Yeah, the weekday they switched over to NPR,

which is dumb because we already have an NPR station. Yeah, they play basically the same thing. Yeah, but I'm still pretty sure that Al-Madiate exists on the weekends. And if you haven't heard of it, you maybe have heard of the great WFMU out of New Jersey. It's our version of WFMU. But most every city had a great Left of the Dial station.

Well, this one was the best Left of the Dial station. And do you remember Atom Bomb? He had like a soul show. No, I don't remember that one. Soul Kitchen I think it was called. Oh, okay. I remember Soul Kitchen. Yeah, that was Atom Bomb.

And that's definitely not archived anywhere on the internet. So if anybody has old tapes of Atom Bomb's Soul Kitchen, please post them. Yeah, they had Reelin in the Ears was a good show. Their Sunday morning reggae show was amazing. Do you remember the Saturday morning cartoon theme the Ears was a good show. Their Sunday Morning Rege Show was amazing. Do you remember the Saturday Morning Cartoon theme show? That was a good one, too.

Good stuff. I think we should just put one last thing. You said that a BM station started to drop like flies in the 80s in particular. By 1990, they were basically gone. There was a fictionalized version of this event. And we like to call that fictionalized version of this event. And we like to call that fictionalized version

WKRP in Cincinnati. You know what, I did not remember this, and I loved that show until you included it in the article and I was like, wait a minute, I do remember the pilot. Like, I remember that happening. That's what happened, that's why they hired Andy as station manager because they were converting from beautiful music to rock,

and that's exactly what was going on at the time around them. Yeah, and that's why Dr. Johnny Fever and Venus Flytrap all were stoked about their job. Yeah, and Herb Tarlik had to go to Crazy Murray and be like, can we turn you upward now because we're a rock station. That's right. And Lonnie Anderson said, did I type this right? And leaned over the desk. That was a good show. Oh, let's thank our sources for this episode. Chuck Tarver at the University of Delaware, go Bluehens.

Ken Mills at RadioWorld, Diffin.com, Ken Siapura at CredoVille, and the Forum at Radio Discussions. And since we have nothing more to say about beautiful music, short stuff is out. at Crateauville and the Forum at Radio discussions. And since we have nothing more to say about beautiful music, Short Stuff is out.