Stuff You Should Know - Short Stuff: North Sentinel Island

Episode Date: September 10, 2025

One of the last uncontacted people in the world live in the Bay of Bengal and they have made it clear they don’t want you to visit.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:00:22 Like, what is the culture talking about? That's exactly what we'll be getting into here at the latest with Lauren the Rosa. Everything VNAs. To hear this and more, listen to you. to the latest with Lauren the Rosa from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeartRadio at Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Hey and welcome to the Short Step. Josh here, Chuck here. That's it. And this is Short Stuff. Yeah, I kept thinking we had covered this, but I don't think we covered it this specifically. And what made me think of this was the other day I saw a video that was a drone flying over
Starting point is 00:01:00 uh north sentinel island uh yeah and these you know this uncontacted uh tribe looking up obviously and they were pretty high up they weren't buzzing them i will say that but i was also like and and i was heartened to find the instagram comments were mainly like please leave them alone yeah uh largely but north sentinel island is part of a larger island chain uh called the andaman and nicobar islands uh in the bay of bengal about 700 miles off of of India. And it is noteworthy because anywhere between 50 and 500 of these sentinelese people live there completely uncontacted, even though they're like maybe 20 miles away from islands that have incorporated some modern spoils. Yeah, and they live essentially in the same manner
Starting point is 00:01:51 as Neolithic hunter-gatherers. They don't wear clothes. They walk around naked as the day they were born. They spearfish. They use dugout canoes that aren't particularly seaworthy. And they don't like visitors at all. Essentially, there's been one event of contact with them that you could even remotely consider peaceful. I guess it would definitely be a piece. Yeah. Yeah. But every other contact with them has either been repelled by a volley of arrows or has resulted in the person's death. I should say and or resulted in the person's death from that volley of arrows. And that's why, like, those Instagram comments were saying, like, leave these people alone. They've clearly told the modern world leave us alone.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Yeah. In other words, these people are your heroes. Yeah, kind of. The naked part especially. Yeah, really think a lot of these folks. I've got to get me a bow and arrow. In the 18th century is when they were first discovered with Dutch Alps. Austrian and British merchant ships looking for better trade routes.
Starting point is 00:02:59 And the first European settlers arrived there in the 1850s when Britain built a penal colony on an island about 30 miles from North Sentinel Island. And kind of not too long after that, I guess it was about 40 years or so. There was a prisoner who tried to escape on a raft from that penal colony, washed up on shore of North Sentinel, and they found him, you know, dead by arrow, or arrows, rather. Yes. And that confirmed those sightings from the 1770s that there were definitely people living on this island. You don't, like, there's no natural arrows that you can fall on top of. That's just how it goes. I'm sorry. I don't make the rules. Everyone knows that. You don't fall on an arrow. Right. But even still, if you do fall on an arrow, somebody made that arrow. So it definitely suggested human, in human habitation of the island. And it also showed, yeah, they probably don't want people showing up, even accidentally like that prisoner did. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, he was like, ah, I got out of there.
Starting point is 00:04:04 I washed up on this island. Amazing. Yeah. Ooh, that's a really good arrow sound. Message for you, sir. In 1967, the anthropological survey of India sent a team of 20 people to try and make peaceful contact with them. and, you know, they were well known at this point for, like, any ship that comes by, they're going to get arrowed at, at least, as a warning. You know, probably not killing anyone from the shore to a ship, but that message again saying, please don't come here.
Starting point is 00:04:38 And they went ashore, and they basically had gone into hiding. They saw their huts. They saw that they had fires going and abandoned their meals. I am quite sure that they were, you know, the sentinel knees were. sitting there watching them from wherever they had perched. Sure. Kind of going through their stuff. And so they left them some gifts. They left them coconuts because they didn't have coconuts. They left them iron rods and sporks. Yeah, plastic utensils, which is so bizarre. Yeah, I didn't get that part. It's like, hey, why don't you learn how to litter? That'll make you
Starting point is 00:05:13 modern. Yeah. Like, is this the best thing we can offer you that you haven't seen yet? You mentioned that they had fires going. I read somewhere that they are thought to not actually know how to make fire, and that they keep embers tended from lightning strikes or fires created naturally from lightning strikes. Quest for Fire. Remember that one? Yeah, that was a good one. Should we take a break? Yeah, and let's go watch Quest for Fire.
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Starting point is 00:08:16 Yeah, I love Drive. Great movie. I think I've told you before I did it. double feature of drive and neon demon, and my brain was just melting. Wow, Ron Perlman, everybody. Thank you. Rhea Perlman. I wonder if they're related. Maybe. They look very similar. All right. So where did we leave off? They came back after their one semi-successful, you know, offering of coconuts and things like that. And in the early 1990s, they said, hey, let's take another stab at this. And let's bring a woman this time, which turned out to be a really good idea,
Starting point is 00:08:56 it seems like. Yeah, because this was the one encounter that you could truly call peaceful, because they actually did encounter the Sentinelese this time. And it totally makes sense that the presence of a woman would have made it a peaceful encounter, because I could see that if the Sentinelese followed typical patriarchal structures, they don't take women on raiding parties. So the presence of a woman would suggest that this wasn't a raiding party, and they let their guard down. For one reason or another, I think that's the likeliest reason. They let their guard down, and the way that the anthropological society got them to basically interact with them was to float coconuts to them from the boat. And I guess from that first gift of coconuts in the 60s,
Starting point is 00:09:39 the Sentinelese were very happy to see those things again. Oh, man. It's been decades. You teased this with coconuts. These things are amazing. My grandfather told me about these. Yeah, basically. So they did not fire any arrows. They floated the coconuts. Some of the sentinalees came into the water, collected those things up. And they waded out to the boat even, examined the boat, and allowed some of the outsiders even to walk around on the beach and interact with the women, teenagers, and children who they brought out, which was, I mean, this was a rousing success that just should have stopped there.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Yeah, it should have. I guess, well, it kind of did, didn't it? I mean, after that India passed the law that said no one could contact the Sentinel East? As far as the official Indian government goes, but that didn't stop a certain someone from going. No, oh, actually, no, it didn't. In 2006, some fishermen from Myanmar had to make an emergency landing, and they were killed. Their bodies were buried in the sand of North Sentinel Island. But the more famous death on North Sentinel Island came much more recently.
Starting point is 00:10:48 I think it was in 2018 that a 26-year-old missionary and adventure named John Alan Chow died from arrow wounds on North Sentinel Island. And this is not the first time he showed up on North Sentinel Island. No, he was trying to spread the Word of God. He was chronicling all of this in his diary. And he knew what he was in for. he, you know, to his credit, he got all the vaccinations to make sure that he didn't get them sick and stuff like that. And he brought dental forcips, apparently, in case he got arrowed because he knew that was a possibility.
Starting point is 00:11:24 He made a few different trips. He had this, you know, local fishermen kind of take him out and back. The first time he waited up, he brought a fish as a gift and said, my name is John. I love you, and Jesus loves you. And it was, shoo, shoo, shoo, arrows. They did not get him. he came back, they arrowed at him again, did not get him again, and I guess fool me twice wasn't in John Allen Chow's repertoire because he came back a third time and was arrowed for good.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Yeah, the fisherman he bribed to take him out there. And bribed is the word because they were knowingly breaking the law by helping him contact the North Sentinelese. they reported that they saw his body being dragged along the sand by the Sentinelese and that they buried it. They buried all these guys. Yeah, which I find interesting because... It's respect, you know.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Yeah. But John Allen Chow's remains are still there today, as are the two fishermen who had to make an emergency landing, the fishermen from Myanmar, because part of not contacting the Sentinelese is not raiding North Sentinel Island. trying to bring the people who killed those guys to justice and or even recover the remains. So they're there for who knows how long. Probably for good.
Starting point is 00:12:48 I also failed to mention that in his second of the three trips when he was arrowed at, and I believe this was in his diaries, a young boy actually shot an arrow through his waterproof Bible that he was holding up. And if that sort of symbolic message wasn't enough to keep him away, then nothing would have. No, yeah, because he came back. But, yeah, he's on one side, especially among evangelicals. He's viewed as literally a martyr. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:17 On other sides, probably people on Instagram, he's viewed as an interloper who should not have been where he was, essentially. Yeah, and of course, I don't think any loss of life like that is okay. But I just think people should heed the warnings. Like, they don't want to be contacted. Yeah. So just don't contact them. Leave the North Sentinelese alone.
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