Stuff You Should Know - Short Stuff: Your Dirty Bed
Episode Date: November 10, 2021Is your bed dirty? You bet it is. Are chimpanzee beds dirty? Not as dirty as yours! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy inf...ormation.
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Hey, and welcome to the short stuff. I'm Josh. There's Chuck short stuff. Let's go. Let's go.
Let's go. It's short stuff. Yeah. So this one is courtesy kind of of NC State University.
Go both back. Oh, yes. Thank you. I'm glad you said that.
Couldn't remember, huh? You were about to say Tar Heels. I might have been.
Oh, I'm sorry. Bad, bad, bad move. I was going to call them the Golden Pirates of Love.
Oh, that's good. I like that. Well, if you ever found a university, I expect you to use that
as your mascot. That's Barry Manilow University. The Golden Pirates of Love. I saw that guy in
person in concert front row center. Yeah. When was that? In Vegas. I don't know. 2013, 14, 15, 16, 17,
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You would have loved this. I had like four or five of his records and I'm sure my mom was just like,
what is going on with this? Doesn't he know that's not cool? That kid ain't right.
Right. But we're not talking about that. We're talking about your gross bed
and the fact that you lay in it every night. Yeah. How often do you change your bed sheets?
Once a week. Yeah. Same here. I think that's normal. Yeah. I mean, it's not like I
use the bathroom, take my clothes off and then just go to bed without cleaning myself off every
night either. But it turns out that from investigations into the human bed, you would get the impression
that all of us do something very similar to that every night because apparently human bed is,
like you said, really, really gross on the microbial level at least. Yeah. And the point is not to
gross you out because it shouldn't gross you out. That's kind of my point. If you're doing a once a
week changeover, that's not too bad. No, because we don't live on the microbial level, so we couldn't
care less. That's right. But when you get in your bed, there are trillions of microbes
that make up your own human microbiome and you're shedding this stuff. You're shedding,
well, kind of gross stuff at times, but it's on that microbial level, so you just try not to
think about it. But there are fecal, oral, and skin bacteria, fecal bacteria that you're shedding
in your bed on a nightly basis. Yes. Under normal circumstances outside of this episode,
you don't really think about that. But that's also the reason that your parents taught you never to
lick your own sheets. You know? Yeah. Well, you got to get the food stuff out of there first,
so you lick it then. Well, you just make a cup with one of your hands, the palm of one of your
hands, and then you use the other hand to scoop that stuff into the cup and then you eat it like
that, like a handful of nuts. Don't ever lick your sheets. It's just gross. All right. That's a
good point. So the point of all this is, like you said, it's not that gross everybody out, Chuck.
It's to basically say humans are primates. Let's find out how much our beds differ from other
primates, but isn't that correct? Yeah. And these researchers at NC State University, I think in
2018, did this. And they found, as far as we go, about 35% of the bacteria in our beds come from
us. Like I said, the oral and skin and fecal bacteria. And they were like, well, that makes
sense. 35% coming from our own bodies. And we are really curious because chimpanzees are close to us
what the deal is with them, because here's the thing I never knew about chimpanzees.
They make their bed. They build and construct a brand new bed for themselves every single day.
I did not know that either. I think that's a very refreshing fact that I had no idea about chimps.
I see them in a different light now and I feel like kind of a jerk for thinking they were a little
dirty before. Yeah. So they wanted to find out like what's going on in a chimpanzee bed. And
what they were kind of zeroing in on is not like, ooh, how dirty are they? But how much of their own
microbiome is in their bed compared to other stuff from their environment? Since they're,
you know, these beds are up in trees. Like are there tiny little insects all over the place and
like grow stuff from them? Yeah. Or is it mainly just stuff from the chimpanzee? Yeah. The researchers
were like, it's gross enough talking about human beds. Let's try to make everybody barf by talking
about chimpanzee beds. Should we cliffhanger it there and take a break? You bet your sweet
chimpanzee. Yeah. All right, we'll be back with Zippy the Chimp right after this.
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Okay, we're back with Zippy the Chimp. Is that a new chimp or is that like a throwback from the
50s? Zippy was an actual lovey, as my daughter calls him, little stuffed animal. Oh, okay.
That I had when I was little and it had a hand that you could squeeze.
Was he wearing red overalls and a red cap? I think Zippy had red. Do you remember when we
used to make like galleries on the blogs as part of our job? You made knockoff loveys, right?
I found like the, I made it one of the best galleries ever. It was like the most unsettling
dolls of all time and I think it was like 50 or 60 of them. But Zippy was definitely in there.
Those are weird times when they're like, the page view is equal money, guys.
I know. If you could come up with like a hundred pictures, let's say.
It was a step up from the knockoff wallets they had us sewing prior to that. I thank God for
the blogs coming along. Yeah, so Zippy wore red and then my mom was so great. Also, one of my
favorite books growing up was Kodoroi the Bear, the department store bear. And Kodoroi wore
green Kodoroi overalls and my mom took a teddy bear, a lovey that looked like Kodoroi and made
homemade these little green Kodoroi overalls for him. That is so sweet. And I still have that now.
My daughter has it in her room with her other 50 loveys. That is very sweet. That is a great story.
I'm glad you use that as a tangent and not because that this article is a little thin.
Well, we are killing some time, aren't we? So we're talking about this study where
they wanted to basically compare human beds to chimpanzee beds to just basically make chimps
look bad, point out how great humans are. And they went back and they looked at their findings
and they went, what? And found that, no, no, no, chimps actually are pretty clean if you compare
beds to beds between humans and other primates, including chimps. Yeah, I think they got, they
went to Tanzania, which is a great place to go if you want to get some chimps. And they got swabs
from 41 chimpanzee beds or nests. They call them nests too. And then they tested those for the
diversity, the microbial biodiversity. And then I think for 15 of those nests, they even used
vacuums because I talked about the insects and stuff that you're invariably going to get when you
live in the woods in a nest. Sure. Try to not get them. Yeah. And they wanted to see kind of what
was in there. So they vacuumed up about 15 of them. And then like you said, they thought they were
going to see about the same thing, which is that chimpanzees had a bunch of gross stuff from their
own bodies in their beds. And they found the opposite. They found almost entirely, the beds
were almost entirely lacking. They did find that the bacteria, environmental bacteria,
is what dominated the nest and not chimpanzee gunk. Yeah. No oral, no skin, no fecal bacteria even.
And get this everybody, like if you sleep naked, yes, you're going to get some fecal bacteria on
your bedsheets. This is inevitable no matter how clean you are. I'm sorry, we're talking about
microbes here. It's okay. It's okay. It's normal. Chimpanzees do not traditionally wear pants of
any kind. They sleep naked all the time without variation, unless they live at a house and they
wear pants. But that is definitely not the norm. Among chimpanzees in the wild, no pants. And yet,
not a single type of fecal bacteria that's known to inhabit chimpanzees' feces was found in their
nests in any of the nests that they studied, which means, sad to say everyone, chimpanzees are way
cleaner than you when it comes to beds. Yeah. I mean, what we've done is we've gotten rid of,
you know, we don't wear our shoes in bed, heaven forbid, and stuff like that. So we're not tracking
in as much stuff from the outside. We generally change into jammies or heaven forbid if you
sleep naked in your bed like you were just talking about. I can't do that. Never have been able to.
I have a friend who warned me never to sleep naked because he was in a house fire once.
And his life was actually saved by the person whose apartment he was at. And he was sleeping naked
and ended up outside in this condo complex, totally naked in the middle of the night because of this
fire that, again, his life had just been saved from. So he was grateful to be alive, but also
ungrateful to have been naked. And I don't believe he ever slept naked again after that. And he said
one of the neighbors gave him like a blanket or something, but he was standing out there naked
for a little while, thanks to that house fire. Yeah, I sleep on top of the covers generally,
like sometimes I'll snuggle up under and like the dead of winter. But I basically just sleep
completely on top of a bed. And the thought of sleeping completely on top of a bed completely
naked is makes me feel vulnerable. Yeah. I think it's disgusting. Nobody wants to see that. Sure.
And, you know, I don't know. I just, I feel really vulnerable. Like, oh, yeah, like somebody could
come along and punch you in a terrible place. Anything. Just whatever. I just don't want my
parts exposed like that all night for like eight hours in a row. So instead, you wear nothing
but a blazer. A porky bigot. Yeah. Oh, that's good stuff. So anyway, where I was going is,
is that our beds don't have a lot of that outside stuff. Right. Because we change into other things
and we don't get that stuff on our bed generally. So it's just a less diverse set of microbes in
our, in our bed. It's mainly from our bodies. Yeah. And there's no mystery to why chimps beds
are cleaner. They make their own nests, their beds night after night from scratch. They just get
a bunch of twigs and leaves and make a new bed every single night, which is pretty neat that
they're like, it's gross to sleep in the same bed twice. I can't believe humans do it. That's right.
So we want to shout out once again, NC State University and their paper, The Ecology of Sleeping
Colon, the microbial and arthropod associates of chimpanzee beds. Very nice. It's quite a read.
Very nice. And since I said very nice twice, that means, of course, short stuff is out.
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