Stuff You Should Know - SYSK Selects: Geysers: Nature's Innuendo

Episode Date: November 8, 2020

The spectacular eruptions of steam and water we call geysers are only the tip of the proverbial iceberg, the result of thousands of years of specific natural conditions and physical processes. Learn t...he Stuff You Should Know about geysers in this classic episode. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:57 Listen to Frosted Tips with Lance Bass on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hello there, hello, hello. It's me, Josh, and this week's SYSK Select is a little episode from 2012 called Geysers, Colon, Nature's Innuendo. I thought of that title myself,
Starting point is 00:01:18 and I still love it to this day. So, I hope you enjoy it. It's one of those really cool earth sciences bio-geochemical ones that really get me jazzed, and I hope it gets you jazzed, too. Let's all get jazzed. Welcome to Stuff You Should Know,
Starting point is 00:01:35 a production of iHeartRadio's How Stuff Works. Kabloom, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, there's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and this is Stuff You Should Know. Yeah, just a couple of regular geysers sitting around chatting. That was good. I know I genuinely didn't think
Starting point is 00:02:02 you were going to say geysers. Really? Yeah, a little slow today. This was a pretty cool article, I thought. I knew a lot about geysers, but I did not know exactly what was going on there. Yeah. In fact, I was wrong on a couple of key points.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Oh, really? Yes, which I will not point out. Oh, come on. Well, I thought they spit out lemonade, first of all. Yeah. And I thought there was a little guy down there doing it. Oh, gotcha. Leprechauns?
Starting point is 00:02:31 Yeah. That's what everybody thinks. So I was wrong on both of those points. Do we have a geyser myth sound effect? I don't think so. Does this count as weather now? This is earth science, biogeochemical processes. Okay, I just know we've been trying to beef up our weather.
Starting point is 00:02:48 This is not weather. This is not weather. Although it does begin with weather. Yeah, I mean, when something precipitates, that's weather. Sure. And precipitation precipitates the explosion of a geyser. That's right. Chuck.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Yes. I have no geyser introduction, man. You can't blame me, though. Like I looked and there is really not a lot going on on geysers. I thought you might tell the story about the people in 1903 who died. I was going to, but I didn't want to just usurp it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:17 But let's do that, though, since you brought it up. Because I mean, I thought about that, too. I was like, whoa, hang back, Josh, hang back. Well, apparently geysers can kill you. And when you see something like Old Faith will go off, that's why you're 300 feet away watching it. Yeah. You know, you're not going to be on top of the thing.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Right. But apparently in 1903 in New Zealand, which is lousy with geysers, some tourists visiting there got caught in a jet at... Waimangu. Waimangu Valley. Nice, sounds good. And it killed all four people
Starting point is 00:03:48 and carried them more than a mile away. Yes. That is sad. And after we explain how geysers work, I think that we should mention that again, because once I understood how geysers worked and I read that, I was like, those people met a terrible, terrible demise.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Sure. That was a terrible way to go. Yeah, I mean, it's tantamount to getting thrown into a volcano or dropping into the cracks of an earthquake. And they're all kind of related as it turns out. Yeah. Or being bludgeoned to death. Which is not related.
Starting point is 00:04:22 No, but it's a pretty bad way to go too. To geothermal earth properties. So Chuck, geysers, as I learned from reading this article on howstuffworks.com, our beloved site, are actually kind of fragile. And there's not that many. This article says there's a thousand geysers, roughly, in the world.
Starting point is 00:04:43 And I read elsewhere that there's only about 50 geyser fields on the planet, and about two thirds of those have five or fewer geysers. Wow. Which makes Yellowstone a pretty substantial repository of geyser and geyser related activity. Yeah, totally. When you're talking geyser,
Starting point is 00:05:03 you don't ever just talk geyser. You're also talking fumaroles. You're talking hot springs, mud pots, steam vents, and all of them are based around the same thing, which is there's some sort of geothermal activity that's relatively close to the earth's surface. Right. Right?
Starting point is 00:05:24 Yeah. And there's three components to a geyser. And they are water supply, plumbing system, and heat source. Yeah, and I'm gonna argue a fourth later on. Okay. Later though, I have to wait. I'm gonna call it, we'll just go ahead and say what it is, which is remoteness.
Starting point is 00:05:43 All right. And then we'll circle back. It gets detached from its family. That's right, it comes very remote. So a water supply, let's start there because if you ain't got water, you ain't got no geyser. Yeah, and I saw in this article that rivers can often form the water supply.
Starting point is 00:06:04 I didn't see that elsewhere. For the most part, from what I can gather is that the water supply is precipitation. Yeah. Rain and snow melt, percolating through the earth's crust over 500 or 1,000 or so years. Yeah. And then it trickles down to the point
Starting point is 00:06:21 where it comes in contact with, like we said, relatively shallow geothermal activity, usually very, very young volcano or volcanic activity or very, very old, like in the throes of death, volcanic activity. Oh, is that right? Yeah. And it can be anything from magma to cooled magma,
Starting point is 00:06:41 but it's very hot rock and it's close enough to the surface that this water doesn't evaporate, it starts to trickle back up. Yeah, and when you say close, three miles down, seems like a long way down, but if you're talking the planet earth. It's nothing. It's pretty close.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Yeah. If you're talking magma, it's pretty close. If you're talking tectonic plates, it's pretty close. It's closer than you want it to be, pal. Yeah. All right, so go ahead. No, you go ahead. Okay, number two, the plumbing system.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Right. It's important. The plumbing system is a series of fissures that run miles beneath the surface. And one important aspect of these fissures is they're basically sealed shut with silica from rhyolite. It's volcanic rock and like these minerals have sealed this rock shut.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Right, so like- It's really important part of it. That water that's percolating down. Yeah. When it heats up and starts to travel back up, it takes that silica, that rhyolite with it. Yeah. And it just kind of acts as a sealant along these pipes.
Starting point is 00:07:43 So over 500,000 years, however long it takes for it to go back up, it's sealing it and it's making it watertight. Well, yeah, and I imagine, I didn't read this, but I imagine that this kind of activity happens elsewhere on the planet, but it's not sealed up, so it just disperses. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Right? Yeah, because one of the key ingredients of a geyser is pressure, high pressure. That's right. And to get that pressure in these pipes, you have to have rhyolite coated sealed pipes. That's right. Okay, so there's the plumbing system.
Starting point is 00:08:14 And the plumbing system varies. All geysers are different. Sometimes it's just like a huge long vertical shaft. Sometimes it bends and turns and winds around. Okay, so this is something that actually differentiates geysers from a hot spring. So a hot spring is just like a long vertical shaft coming from hot water up to the top,
Starting point is 00:08:34 but there's no obstruction. What makes a geyser a geyser is the fact that there's an obstruction in the plumbing, right? That's right. With a hot spring, water can just move freely up and down. There's just free exchange. Yeah, and you soak around in it like a big lazy walrus. Yeah, but there's no pressure.
Starting point is 00:08:49 With a geyser, there's some sort of obstruction where either say the water on its way back up enters this wide pool, that bottlenecks at the top, so now you have pressure. There's a bunch of different pipes feeding into one pipe and they all connect to the same place, another bottleneck, or this pipe of water is so wide and so deep that the pressure from the water above the water
Starting point is 00:09:17 at the bottom is so tremendous that for all intents and purposes, it creates a bottleneck just strictly out of pressure without an actual obstruction. Yeah, just the weight of the water itself is so great. So we have a water supply and a plumbing system that is sealed with rhyolite, which makes it watertight and pressurized,
Starting point is 00:09:35 and then some sort of means for pressure to build. Yeah, and I guess we can go ahead and liken it to a pressure cooker now, so you understand what we're talking about if you've ever cooked with a pressure cooker at home, or if you've ever eaten at Chick-fil-A and eaten their delicious pressure-fried chicken. Is that how they do it?
Starting point is 00:09:52 Yeah. Oh, let me explain. Yeah, the fries are pressure-fried. God, it's so good. That's why they're so juicy. Man. So water, standard water is just gonna boil at like 100 degrees Celsius.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Standard water. Got that fancy French water. If you're cooking with a pressure cooker, which means the lid is sealed shut, it lets out some steam or also it would explode, obviously, it will actually take a lot more energy to boil and bubble up, which means more heat. And so you can actually cook in a pressure cooker
Starting point is 00:10:23 at like 125 degrees, which is substantial. Under that pressure, it takes a lot more for what it was boiling water, but it's like air bubbles forming and rising to the top. When the pressure's too great, it can't boil, so the boiling point rises, right? Well, it boils, but it can't evaporate. Well, no, it can't form the bubbles
Starting point is 00:10:43 that carry to the top, so it can't actually boil, so it's just sitting there in this high pressure environment at higher than boiling point temperatures, and the same thing's going on in a geyser, right? That's right. You've got the obstruction, you've got this heated water, and you have a tremendous amount of pressure, because again, we're talking about miles deep,
Starting point is 00:11:05 and that's quite a bit of pressure at the bottom, the water at the bottom, and it's just getting hotter and hotter and hotter. Oh, the course is a lot of time. Yeah, like, I mean, I guess it depends, but for a geyser to form and start, they think the oldest one is between 5,000 and 40,000 years old. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:11:24 So yeah, so it takes a little while, because the plumbing has to seal up and everything. But as that pressure builds, and that heat increases, you can reach temperatures of like 400, 500 degrees Fahrenheit of this water, and it's still not boiling, right? That's right. And then eventually it does boil, it overcomes that pressure threshold.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Well, it finds its way through to the escape route, which is the top of the surface, and it'll just, and that's not the eruption, it'll just squirt a little bit of water out, and think, wow, that was a big relief. And such a big relief that the steam all of a sudden expands to 1,500 times the volume of the water. It's like, if you're ever boiling,
Starting point is 00:12:11 you ever steam vegetables in your house? The best way to steam vegetables is you don't just set it on a massive boil and cover it up, you get it to that massive boil, and then you turn that heat down low, and all of a sudden that pressure drop creates like massive amounts of steam. Right, and the reason why is because
Starting point is 00:12:28 when you increase pressure, you increase the temperature that's the boiling point of water, if suddenly you have that temperature still, but the pressure decreases, that water in this geyser just flash vaporizes, and because there's a lot more volume to an equal amount of water and steam,
Starting point is 00:12:46 that steam, like you said, expands to what, 1,500 times the volume? And there's your geyser, pal. Yeah, it's all of a sudden, all the steam in the water just gets shot out depending on what kind of geyser it is, it's gonna take different formations and be different heights
Starting point is 00:13:02 and last different amounts of time, but it'll keep going until it either runs out of water or it cools down enough for it to start all over again. Yeah. ["Learning Things When Joggin' Josh"] ["Learning Things When Joggin' Josh"] ["Stuff You Should Know"] On the podcast, Hey Dude, the 90s, called
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Starting point is 00:15:28 or wherever you listen to podcasts. And then it just starts all over again, which is how you get something like Old Faithful, right? That's right. Once it, once it releases that, um, that pressure and it shoots out, it's the whole process just begins again. And you have, um, geysers like Old Faithful that erupt like on a pretty regular schedule.
Starting point is 00:15:55 I think it's between like 60 and 85 minutes or something like that. Well, I've got the new schedule. They have a new schedule. Because it's been, it's been happening with greater, with less frequency and greater power in recent years. I think it's said since 2000. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Um, and it's a bimodal, they call it bimodal. And if you're going to Old Faithful in Wyoming, there are generally two eruption durations now, either a long one, which is over four minutes, or a short one, which is about two and a half minutes. And if you have just missed the short one, there'll be about an hour before your next eruption. If you have just missed the long one,
Starting point is 00:16:34 then there's going to be about an hour and a half until the next one. But either way, it's worth sticking around for, right? Yeah, and it's funny if you go to the page. And there's obviously a webcam up where you can see it and stuff, but that's not as fun. But if you go to the webpage and they ask for tips on, you know, seeing it, they say, well,
Starting point is 00:16:51 if there's a lot of people sitting around on the benches, that means there's one upcoming. If there's a bunch of people getting up and leaving, that means it just happened. It's like, wow, really? Yeah. That's the best you can do. That sounds like, um, like hippie park ranger logic.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Exactly. Okay. So, uh, well, I guess we're on to like famous geysers, right? Yeah. Actually, quickly, I mentioned a tease about the fourth thing being remoteness. Apparently in the last 50 years, producing energy with geothermal energy production
Starting point is 00:17:24 has increased so much that it's affecting geysers. And so being remote is now believed to be one of the requirements to be a geyser because geysers are vanishing because of man. Because, so I was trying to figure this out. Maybe you can help me. That's because we dig down to these geysers or this geothermal activity.
Starting point is 00:17:46 And in doing so, are we creating like a release valve so the pressure can't build as much? I think so. I mean, they're using it to spin turbines to create energy. But I know you can also have like a geothermal system in your backyard, which I don't think uses, I don't think it creates steam. So I feel like what we're doing then
Starting point is 00:18:04 is creating artificial geysers, like creating an artificial pipe to let steam out, which would impact any natural geysers activity, I guess. It might be what's going on. Because like we said, they're very fragile. Earthquakes frequently cut them off. They also bring them back to life, too. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Like there was one called the Stroker Geyser. That would be S-T-R-O-K-K-U-R. Yeah, and that's... Not stroker like stroker race. Right, right. So Stroker Geyser is after the Icelandic, well, stroker is after the Icelandic verb to churn. And actually geysers after the Icelandic verb to gush.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Yeah. So this is all very Icelandic in origin. But that would be G-E-Y-S-I-R geyser. Okay. That's how I pronounce it. In Icelandic? Sure. I wonder how Bjork pronounces geyser.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Have you seen Kristen Wiig's impression of her? No, it's really great. Okay, so the Stroker Geyser was actually, it was enacted in 1789. Because of an earthquake. And then another earthquake hit in 1896. And it became inactive. It went dormant.
Starting point is 00:19:14 And the locals said, we've got to get our geyser back, man. It's all blocked up. So they cleared it off, and now it's running again. I bet that was probably dangerous work. Very dangerous work, yeah. Another way too that humans are impacting is mineral extraction. Apparently in 2003, they were extracting minerals in Chile.
Starting point is 00:19:36 The second largest geyser field in South America. And it killed it, basically, from extracting gold and stuff. Geez. Yeah. Because basically they mess with the plumbing, and then you're finished. Because it's like you said, in a pressure cooker, it has that little steam valve, so it doesn't explode.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Geysers aren't supposed to have that. If they have that, they just don't go off. They're like, well, fine, I'll just let some steam off. Put some steam off. And that does happen naturally. There are steam vents located near geysers. Oh, really? Like Yellowstone's like, we have 10,000 geothermal,
Starting point is 00:20:15 what is the word they use? Basically, different things. We have 10,000 geothermal different things. But the vast majority of those are like steam vents. Oh, they're man-made? No, they're natural. They're like little steam releases that come up through fissures in the earth.
Starting point is 00:20:33 I thought you meant we put those in to make old faithful like sappers. No, they happen naturally. Oh, that's good. But I think it's the same thing as drilling a hole down to a geothermal different thing and tapping it to run a turbine. OK, gotcha.
Starting point is 00:20:48 At least you didn't say interesting. Interesting, man. This stuff is very interesting. Old faithful is a cone geyser. Now, I'm not sure I understand the difference. Is it the outlet, like the shape of the thing above the earth? Yeah, so with a cone geyser, the rhyolite bubbles up enough over time that it builds up
Starting point is 00:21:09 and it forms a little cone, and that's what the geyser shoots out of. And normally, with a cone geyser, you have a big stream jet going into the air, hundreds of feet. That one in New Zealand, the Waimangu geyser, that one streamed 1,475 feet into the air. And for those of you in New Zealand, that's 450 meters. That's a world record, right?
Starting point is 00:21:33 1902? Yeah, 1902, yeah. A year before it killed people. Right, and then it went dormant in 1904 because of a landslide, which makes me think like this thing's coming back. It's just got a bubble back up. Killed people and then shut down right afterward.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Yeah, it's really had a really chaotic two-year career. It's like a rock star that overdosed on heroin or something. But anyway, as I was saying, the cone shoots a jet into the air. The fountain shoots in a much more chaotic stream, whatever, but it doesn't come up from a cone. It comes up from a pool. So at the surface, the geyser goes into a pool of water,
Starting point is 00:22:14 and then that will erupt out of the water. And that would be the grand geyser. That's the tallest regularly erupting geyser on the planet, and that is also in Yellowstone. Yeah, tallest in that it shoots up in the air. Yeah, 200 feet in crazy, fountany, hard-to-predict fashion. Yeah, which is pretty surprising, too, because a cone geyser shoots a jet straight up in the air,
Starting point is 00:22:39 and this fountain geyser is still beating the average one. Yeah, could you imagine if it was a cone geyser? It'd be mind-blowing. To the moon. You mentioned the stroker ace geyser, the steamboat geyser. I like this guy. Yeah, apparently, it can shoot water up to 300 feet, but don't bother stopping by because it hasn't happened
Starting point is 00:22:59 for 50 years, or it can go 50 years between. Yeah, it's finicky. There's also the geyser, which is the OG geyser, because that's where the word came from. It's a geyser in Iceland. It was discovered in 1294. So it's the oldest known geyser on the planet, but they took some samples of the silica that
Starting point is 00:23:20 forms the cone of the castle geyser in Yellowstone. That's the one they think is 5,000 to 40,000 years old. Apparently, silica dating, can use some work. I did see one interesting little, and it wasn't a joke. It was almost like you could hear science guys laughing about it, though. Geysers are always called geysers, even if they quit erupting.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Oh, gotcha. But that ceased to be a geyser at that point. But once you have erupted, you're always called a geyser. The cone formerly known as geyser? Yeah, that's what I would call it. Shameful. On the podcast, Hey Dude, the 90s called David Lasher and Christine Taylor, stars of the cult classic show, Hey Dude, bring you back to the days of slipdresses and choker necklaces. We're going to use Hey Dude as our jumping off point,
Starting point is 00:24:26 but we are going to unpack and dive back into the decade of the 90s. We lived it, and now we're calling on all of our friends to come back and relive it. It's a podcast packed with interviews, co-stars, friends, and non-stop references to the best decade ever. Do you remember going to Blockbuster? Do you remember Nintendo 64? Do you remember getting Frosted Tips? Was that a cereal? No, it was hair.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Do you remember AOL Instant Messenger and the dial-up sound like poltergeist? So leave a code on your best friend's vapor, because you'll want to be there when the nostalgia starts flowing. Each episode will rival the feeling of taking out the cartridge from your Game Boy, blowing on it and popping it back in as we take you back to the 90s. Listen to Hey Dude, the 90s called on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Lance Bass, host of the new iHeart podcast Frosted Tips with Lance Bass. The hardest thing can be knowing who to turn to when questions arise or times get tough or you're at the end of the road. Ah, okay, I see what you're doing.
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Starting point is 00:27:36 No, I never knew the story behind it. So he was locked in a contract with Sony that he didn't like and Sony basically said... You can't release an album as Prince? Yes, but also that had something to do with him acting basically crazy, like he acted crazy on purpose to get out of his contract. Because there was some sort of clause where if he went nuts or whatever, it would void his contract. So he did that and he had that font released. And I remember he released it to the media. His little symbol?
Starting point is 00:28:05 Yes, as like a font add-on, so you could just print the symbol when you were writing about him. Oh, really? And his contract with Sony was either voided or they gave it up or whatever, but he was basically like, I'll show you crazy if I need to get out of this contract. Boy, one of the best concerts I've ever seen. Oh yeah, I'll bet. Easy. And I don't even think I put it in my top five when we had that listener mail that time, but I probably forgot. It's probably in my top five.
Starting point is 00:28:30 I would like to see Prince sometime. Man, he brings it. He bought Yumi a bottle of water at a Miles Davis show at the Cotton Club. Really? Wow. Her friends came up to see the lemon heads and she's like, yeah, I'll go with you. And then found out that Miles Davis was playing. It's like, I'm going to go over here.
Starting point is 00:28:46 That's such a great, great move. Prince bought her a bottle of water. Evan Dando, Miles Davis. Exactly. Let me think about that. Yeah, sorry, Ed. So that's Prince. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:00 And Geysers. Oh yeah, Geysers too. If you want to learn more about Geysers, you can type that word, G-E-Y-S-E-R-S. That's the English spelling. We didn't do it Icelandically. But you type that in the search bar at housestuffworks.com and it will bring up this fine, fine article. And I said, search bar at housestuffworks.com, which means it's time for listener mail. All right, Josh, I'm going to call this, given a local Brooklyn, I ate a plug for his election.
Starting point is 00:29:29 But that's not how it started. Oh, OK. That was kind of a complicated title. Guys, just listen to your podcast, How Labor Unions Work. And I want to thank you for trying to give a very balanced story to what is a very complicated and contentious subject. As a former New York City union organizer, so this guy was the real deal. I am very familiar with the arguments against unions, but I truly believe American workers
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Starting point is 00:30:23 They did everything from threatening workers with being fired, lying to them and telling them they did not have collective bargaining rights to telling them the union would only steal their dues and not get them a good contract. That is a deceptive HR person right there. Or they would tell workers they would work out individual deals with them if they would vote against the union. Even once when we were organizing at a Catholic hospital, they told the workers they were going against God if they tried to organize.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Can you see those priests like Union Breaking and cracking heads with metal batons? The only problem I had with your podcast was the lack of coverage you gave to the triangle shirt waste fire. We mentioned that. He said it could have been more. He said it could deserve its own podcast. Well that's true. We mentioned it.
Starting point is 00:31:17 He said it was one of the deadliest industrial accidents in the United States history. Last year hundreds of people came out to commemorate the 100 year anniversary of the lives lost due to locked stairwells and exits. That fire was a major turning point in labor conditions in New York City and around the world as well as bringing light to women's terrible working conditions. I wrote him back and it turns out a day, E-D-E, this is named Fox, is running for Brooklyn City Council. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:31:47 I said you know what dude? We'll plug your campaign. www.edfox.com and good luck in your bid for City Council in Brooklyn. Yeah. If you wear sunglasses with neon arms on them and you're into like your pro union, I would say go vote for this guy. I think we can help garner you a little bit of the hipster vote. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Since we are both aging hipsters. I am not a hipster. You are now. Dude, I am not a hipster and I may be aging but I'm not a hipster. Will you look a lot more like a hipster than you used to? Well if you, I guess if you have a political campaign you're running, we want to hear about it. We heard from another guy in Maryland, a state legislator.
Starting point is 00:32:34 He's a legislator for Maryland who is writing about human trafficking. That guy, shout out to that guy as well. But if you are a politician that listens to the stuff you should know, we want to hear your viewpoints. Let us know what you got to say, how we're helping you, how we can help more. That kind of thing, you know? You can tweet to us, just please don't send us a picture of your junk like other politicians. To SYSKpodcast, you can join us on facebook.com slash stuff you should know and you can send
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