Stuff You Should Know - SYSK Selects: How Breast Implants Work
Episode Date: April 23, 2017In this week's SYSK Select episode, the first attempt at breast augmentation surgery was on a dog. The second on a woman who went in for tattoo removal. From those weird origins hundreds of thousands ...of breast implant procedures are now carried out each year. Find out all about the advancements and techniques in increasing your bust. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hey there, it's your old pal Josh,
this week's curator of SYSK Selects.
And this week I've selected how breast implants work.
It's a pretty great vintage episode.
Has it all science, pop culture, history, surgery,
all sorts of weird stuff.
And this episode is the origin of when I realized
that Chuck says the word tattoo really oddly.
So enjoy it, take care, tattoo.
Welcome to Stuff You Should Know,
from HowStuffWorks.com.
Hey and welcome to the podcast.
I'm Josh Clark and there's Charles W. Chuck Bryant
and Jerry's over there.
So you got the three mucachos together.
What's a mucachos?
Well, mucachos and mucacha.
Yeah.
Is that right?
Is mucacha a girl?
Mucachos, it makes sense to be mucacha.
Probably, that's generally how it works, right?
Yeah, but I also may have just made up a word in Spanish.
It could be a snack food.
Mucachos, the saltiest.
Anyway, this is Stuff You Should Know
and we want to extend a extra hearty welcome
to all the additional 12 year old boys
who are listening to this one.
We want to apologize in advance for disappointing you
because you're going to be sorely disappointed.
Yeah.
And I would like to insert a quick COA.
Okay.
For myself.
We're gonna be talking about breast implants
and I'm gonna try not pepper the show with my own opinions
because we have the to each's own decree here.
For sure.
And I'm just gonna go ahead and say out front,
I'm not into it.
I wish people would just learn to love themselves,
but I get it.
And if someone feels better to do something like this,
then that's fine.
No judgment here.
Yeah.
Who are we to judge?
Yeah, it's gonna be tough in the parts
about like the string, what was that one called?
The string implant, it's dead and gone.
Yeah, but still, we gotta cover it.
Well, yeah.
And you might hear some derision in my voice.
A little like,
yeah, but again, if a string implant is what
those women wanted to feel better than.
Then you have to go to an underground doctor
to get it now.
Well, you do now.
Yeah.
And of course we're gonna, you know,
it's not just like just augmentation,
like, you know, mastectomies and men
can get breast implants.
So we're gonna cover the whole gamut.
Yeah, you're giving a lot away here.
People know.
The whole, the whole farm.
People know.
People are gonna, they're not gonna wanna buy the cow
cause you just gave them all the milk.
Hey, this milk and the cow are both free anyway.
Yeah.
So let's do it.
That's my little COA.
That was good Chuck.
Thanks.
We are talking breast implants
and we are going to explain everything there is
to know about breast implants.
Breast implants, not breast implants.
That's a subtropical species of carnivorous plant.
Yeah.
That looks like a breast.
Oh, is that where it gets its name?
Anyway, I want to have, I have a little intro.
Okay.
So have you ever heard that in France,
the perfect breast fits into a champagne glass?
I have not heard that.
So Yumi told me this and I was like,
what are you talking about?
I thought that at first too.
And she's like, no, not a flute, you dummy, a coop.
Oh, okay.
Cause I was, I was thinking that's a very odd banana.
It's a weird.
Yes, it would be a little weird if that were the case,
but a champagne coop.
Okay.
So she looked it up and was showing it to me.
And while we were, while we were looking at that,
we found another axiom that was possibly even more true.
That in America, somebody commented underneath this,
in America, the perfect breast clogs a toilet,
doesn't fit into a champagne coop, it clogs a toilet.
That's an axiom?
It is according to this commenter who made it up.
I did not know that.
I think the commenter made it up as a joke.
Okay.
And it was a pretty funny joke if you ask me.
I thought I was going to get a bigger response from you,
but well, I'll live with what I got.
The point is, is if in America that is the standard,
breasts so big that they clog toilets,
that's a pretty high bar to set, especially naturally,
which is probably why some women turn to breast implants.
Yeah. And speaking of America,
this seems like a good place for that.
They top the list in the total number
of breast implant operations.
But if you want to go per capita, they're number five.
And the first four are Brazil, Greece,
Italy, and Colombia per capita.
Okay.
Which is to me, what matters?
Per capita.
Sure, okay.
Obviously we have the most
because we have more people than in those other countries.
I am surprised that we're number five.
I would think we'd be higher than that.
You know it's number 10 per capita, of course.
What?
Canada.
Is that right?
Yeah.
They're like comfortably in the middle.
Exactly.
Although, no, that's still pretty high toward the top.
Although, I guess it'd be about in the middle
if you just did industrialized countries.
Yeah, true.
So anyway, there's my stat.
That's a great stat.
I've got another one for you, Chuck.
Breast implants was the number one elective surgery
in 2012 in the United States.
In 2011, it was lipo, but breast implants,
breast augmentation, beat it out in 2012.
By no's.
I don't know how many, probably by no's
because in 2011, it was 300,000 and changed lipo-suctions
and in 2012, there were 330,681 breast augmentation surgeries
in 2012.
Right.
According to the Wall Street Journal.
You know, if that was a rhinoplasty stat,
that would have been a great joke.
By no's.
By no's.
You know?
Yeah.
I bet that's on top five.
Oh, I guess so, sure.
In fact, I bet that's number three.
There's several ways to find out, should we?
No.
Man, this thing's off to a rocky start.
I'm just guessing.
Okay, so.
I'm wagering.
Let's talk breast implants.
Okay.
Before we talk implants, Chuck,
we should probably talk about,
well, you wanna talk about the history of them?
Yeah, that's a good place to start.
Yeah.
At the beginning.
Apparently, a guy, a doctor named,
two doctors named Frank Garrow and Thomas Cronin,
came up with the idea,
and Garrow specifically squeezed a plastic blood bag one day
and remarked how much it felt like a breast.
Right, and that was 1960-ish?
Circus, yeah, 1960.
Yeah.
And so he had the, that apparently was the quote unquote,
ah-ha moment like, hey, we should do this.
So they tried it out on a dog named Esmeralda.
Yep.
And not obviously, you know,
they were just inserting it into a body.
They weren't like, hey, let's give this dog boobs, you know?
I've always wanted to see what boobs look like on a dog.
So they wanted to just see if it worked,
and apparently it took enough to where they were like,
hey, I think we can try this on a person.
Yeah, Esmeralda chewed at her stitches,
so they had to remove it after a couple of weeks,
but I mean, I don't know that they were,
it was definitely an improvement on what had been
an innovation among Japanese prostitutes during World War II.
Yeah.
Because American GIs, again, boobs that clog a toilet,
they, apparently the Japanese prostitute said,
hey, these guys like big boobs, let's give them big boobs.
Let's steal some medical grade silicone
from the docks of Yokohama.
I thought it was sponges.
That was something, but they also-
The silicone.
They self-injected silicone directly into their breasts,
which apparently worked,
but it also gave them things like gangrene
thanks to silicone rot at the site of injection.
There was a lot of hematomas, very bad news stuff.
But it showed this desire to increase breast size.
And these guys in the early 60s came in to deliver.
That's right.
And they did it in sort of a weird way.
There was this woman named Timmy Jean Lindsay in 1962,
a mother of six in Houston, Texas.
And she had a tattoo of a rose vine on her breasts
that her boyfriend talked her into,
broke up with a boyfriend and was like,
I kind of really don't want this anymore.
Went in to get the tattoo removed and-
She had to change to whino forever.
Yeah, exactly.
And-
Why are you saying tattoo?
Huh?
I've always said that.
That's tattoo.
Tattoo, no?
I mean, no.
I mean, if you say it like that again to each his own,
if you want breast implants, fine.
If you want to say tattoo, fine.
But I couldn't just sit here and pretend
like I didn't notice that you were saying tattoo.
I've said that plenty of times and you've ignored me, so.
Are you sure?
Yeah.
All right.
All right, so anyway, she went in to get the tattoo removed.
No, no.
Go back, go back to tattoo.
I feel too guilty when you say tattoo.
To get it removed and-
What did she get removed?
The tattoo.
And she said that they said,
hey, we got this new thing called breast implants.
Would you like to try it?
And she said, well, my ears stick out too much.
If you pin my ears back some,
I'll let you use me as a guinea pig, basically.
She knows how to bargain.
Yeah, and that's what happened.
That's the first breast implants
were sort of a bargain like that.
She went from a B cup to a C cup.
That is correct.
And this was at a time when women wore pointy cone bras
and stuff like that.
There was a big emphasis on big boobs.
Marilyn was big.
Yeah, they had falsies even, like the padded bras.
Yeah, so there was, I mean, this desire
to increase your bust size.
Sure.
And to do it permanently, it was there.
And it just kind of took off like a rocket ever since then.
Ever since the first procedures.
The problem is there were all sorts of lawsuits
associated with it too.
Especially because they were using medical grade silicone
that's derived from silicon, which is a mineral
that apparently makes up about 14% of Earth's crust.
Mixed with oxygen to create silicone,
which was originally a trade name
of this medical grade silicon gel created by GE.
And the early implants would rupture
and there were a lot of lawsuits
against some of the manufacturers,
specifically Dow, who shelled out like three billion
in payouts in just like the course of a decade.
Yeah, and well, I guess we might as well
go ahead and let the cat out of the bag.
In 1992, they finally, FDA said,
actually they put a voluntary moratorium.
They were like, basically asked,
can you stop making them in doctors?
Can you stop using them?
Right. Except in certain cases.
Yeah, like.
There was inconclusive studies, basically.
They never found like hard proof
that it could cause illness.
But it was enough, I guess, in conclusion,
to say maybe we shouldn't push on with this.
Yeah, because when the implant ruptures in its silicone,
the body absorbs the silicone and they're like,
well, what happens to the body
after it absorbs the silicone?
What happened?
Right, so since no one knew,
they created that moratorium.
In 2006, the FDA finally said,
there's no evidence that this is bad.
Right.
So you can go back to silicone.
And now, silicone implants make up 72% of the implants.
You can get them without any special cases now, even?
Yeah.
In 2006, they lifted the moratorium.
Oh, gotcha.
Because for a while, it was just like,
if you had a mastectomy or complications.
If you were willing to be part of a study
going on five to 10 years.
And the reason why silicone was so popular
and the reason, actually, they lifted the ban, ultimately,
aside from the fact that they never found any real
provable medical problems from it,
is that it's apparently far superior to the alternative,
which is saline-filled bags.
Yeah, they say, apparently, the silicone feels better,
looks better.
It's more natural-looking, apparently.
It moves.
Oh, my God, I can't believe I just did that.
And the saline is just kind of like a water-filled implant.
Yeah.
Should we tell everybody?
Josh is talking with his hands, that's all we'll say.
Yeah, so this is not a video podcast, so that's okay.
Yeah.
All right, so...
So silicone is back, I don't think I knew that.
Yeah, back in a big way, 72%, man.
Wow.
That's a significant amount of 330,681.
So let's talk about, before we get into how breast implants
work and how they're inserted and all that kind of stuff,
let's talk about the breast itself.
Okay.
The anatomy of the breast, as it will.
Apparently, you can break a breast down into two different,
and by the way, only women have breasts.
Men don't have breasts.
Right.
But you can break a breast down into two separate parts.
There's the structural component,
and then there's the epithelial component.
That's right, and that produces the milk.
The structural component is ligaments, fatty tissue.
There is muscle, but not actually as a part of the breast.
It's behind the breast.
Exactly, yeah.
And there's a ligament that kind of works
to keep the breasts suspended, supported.
It's called the Cooper's ligament.
Yeah, I looked into that guy, by the way.
What was he like?
He was just very big on describing anatomy
in the mid-1800s, and he's got a lot of stuff
named after him.
Oh, really?
A lot of diseases, a lot of body parts.
Cooper's ankle?
Cooper's ligament is one of them.
It's just an ankle, but he pointed it out first.
Exactly.
But yeah, they kind of call these muscles
in the ligaments sort of like a natural brazier
to help keep the breast up.
Right, and then there's the milk producing
and delivery system, milk production and delivery system.
It's the epithelial component.
You've got apparently 15 to 25 lobes,
or what they're called,
and they're arranged kind of like a flower
around the center of the breast.
Yeah, so if someone says your breasts are like a flower.
They're complimenting your lobes.
Exactly, and that's anatomically correct.
Right.
You can still smack them in the face though,
if you want to.
Sure, yeah, yeah.
The lobes can further be broken down into lobules,
which are kind of like clusters of grapes,
and there's a lot of these per lobe.
Yeah.
Right?
And then at the end of the lobules,
there's dozens, each lobule has dozens of bulbs,
and that's where milk is produced.
That's right, they're connected to ducts
called the lactiferous sinus,
and that carries the milk to the nipple,
and of course the nipple surrounded by the areola,
which is that dark tissue around the nipple
at the front of the breast, and there you have it.
Yeah, and that's breast 101.
That's the breast, and then behind it,
you've got the pectoral muscles,
the major and the minor pectoralis,
and then the ribcage behind that.
So that's the anatomy of a breast.
That's right.
Got it?
Yeah, they are, since we're talking size, obviously,
with augmentation, it is not a scientific thing,
but you generally go by bra size,
how they're manufactured, is by diameter and inches
around the ribcage, under the breast,
and then the old letter indicating the cup size.
Yeah.
In other words, like AA or AA,
all the way up to, it says in the article,
double D and beyond.
Yeah.
Like some fantastical, like rel.
All right, so now we understand the breast and bra size.
Yeah, and by the way, it's hereditary.
Probably if you look at your mom and your grandma,
it's probably what you're heading towards later in life.
Right, there are things that you can do
to impact your breast size positively or negatively,
depending on your opinion.
Sure, weight.
Yeah, some things that you can control,
like menstruation, menopause, pregnancy,
all affect breast size.
Yeah, and guys hear a lot about,
and actually girls too, hear a lot about this
if you have a girlfriend or a wife.
Yeah, but just becomes a common topic of conversation
when you live with somebody for long enough.
Well, breasts.
Yeah.
I mean, they're a thing, they're there.
They are there.
That's a T-shirt.
That's a movie.
So check now that we have the anatomy of the breast.
Let's talk about breast implants themselves.
Yeah, the actual thing that is implanted.
Some people might not know this.
I thought everyone knew, you know,
has seen them before, but it's not...
Has felt them, has slept with them on their pillow.
It's not just like an injection or something.
It is, there's not a pill you take.
It's an actual physical...
Wait, wait, wait.
Who thought it was a pill?
There's one dude out there that thinks it's a pill.
Oh, well, Todd, it's not a pill.
It is an actual sac.
It is an elastomer shell, which is an elastic polymer shell.
And it is, generally these days, they are empty at first
and they're not full.
Although...
It depends.
Well, it depends on what you're after.
Well, you have the empty kind
that they usually roll up when inserting,
which we'll get into, or you have the pre-filled,
which are not pre-filled to their final...
Destination?
Yeah.
And they're like a certain size.
They can get to a certain size.
I think those have fallen out of favor somewhat,
but I'm sure...
Is that right?
Well, yeah, mostly they're not pre-filled these days.
Well, there's a lot of benefits
to not having pre-filled again,
which we'll get into in a little bit, but okay.
The size then would not have to do with
what they're already filled with,
but what they're finally going to be filled with.
And that's usually measured in cubic centiliters, right?
Yeah.
CCs, as it were.
CCs, and one cup size for every 175 to 200 CCs.
And I guess this is where we should talk about
the rice test.
Okay.
If you want to know what your breasts are going to look like,
or if you were a man who always wanted to know
what it would look like if you had breasts,
you can do something called the rice test.
That's right.
They apparently, this is the best way to tell.
You cut a 12 inch length of pantyhose,
although they say you can use baggies or whatever,
but pantyhose is probably the most realistic.
Sure.
Tie a knot in one end,
and then use a chart which you can find online
to basically fill with rice
to estimate what you will look and feel like.
For instance, about a half a cup is 125 CCs of volume.
About 0.6 is 150 CCs and on up,
and you can find the chart online.
Just under three cups, 700 CCs.
That's a lot.
That's three cups of rice.
And remember, it doubles in your stomach,
so you'll feel full.
So they recommend to put it in a sports bra,
wear that, wear it around, exercise in it,
run errands, do whatever you normally might do
to get the look and the feel of like,
hey, this is what I'm gonna look and feel like,
and should I continue?
Should I not?
Are these too big?
Are they too small?
Ask the grocery store clerk who's checking you out.
They're fine, man.
All right.
This is rice, everybody.
Well, they also say you can use water,
instant mashed potatoes, and oatmeal instead of rice.
I could see instant mashed potatoes being really good,
because aren't they like flaky, it's flaky potatoes?
I could see that.
Rice is, that's, I mean, that's hard.
Yeah, that's true.
But um...
We should call it the instant mashed potato test.
I think that's why they didn't.
So anyway, that's apparently how you,
and it's obviously you wanna work with your doctor
to kind of like singles, remember that movie?
When Bridget Fonda goes in for breast implants
and Bill Pullman essentially talks her out of it.
Oh, I forgot that part.
Yeah, but you're gonna do that.
You're gonna work with your doctor on appropriate sizing.
Yeah.
It's not gonna be like weird science, you know,
where you just like click on the mouse
until they're tremendous and large.
Yeah.
With some 80s graph behind it, yeah.
But you want it, you just want an appropriate size
for your frame, basically,
because not only just for looks,
but for, you know, can you support it with your body frame?
Well, yeah.
That weight.
And not just that, I mean, not just like the extra pressure
that's gonna be put on your back and shoulders and all that,
but I mean, like your skin itself may have trouble
supporting the breast implants,
which is definitely something to consider as well.
Yeah, and this article says generally they come
in three sizes, but that's just not true.
There's like 450 sizes.
Well, like this article is written, I think, in 2003 or four.
Okay.
I mean, it's definitely breast implant,
breast augmentation surgery has increased
by leaps and bounds since then.
I've seen up to 450 different varieties,
and I think that's combinations of shape, size,
that kind of thing.
Yeah.
But yeah, there's a lot of different sizes.
Mainly the sizes, again, it has to do,
it's measured in CCs.
The shape, there's still typically just two shapes
that I ran across.
Yeah.
There's round and then there's a teardrop,
which is also called contour, yeah.
Yeah, and basically one, the round,
I guess it depends on what you're talking to,
they can be more popular in that they're fuller
and there's more cleavage and there's more lift,
but they don't look as real.
The teardrop shape mimic the anatomy
of a natural woman's breast more.
So some women might favor those
if you want to look more natural.
Right.
But round is the most commonly used, I believe.
Well, I don't know if it still is.
I take issue with that.
Okay.
I think that's a 2003 statement.
Gotcha.
Again, though, it has to do with what shape you choose,
you know, but not just what you want,
how you want it to look, but I mean,
the surgeon needs to have some input here, too.
Yeah, and if you get a good surgeon,
they're gonna guide you in the right direction,
you know, that's part of the job.
Right.
It's not just to perform the surgery,
it's the consultation and advice and all that good stuff.
Right.
And since they're plastic surgeons to look good doing it.
Yeah, and if they're not doing that,
that means it's a bad plastic surgeon.
Did you see Rob Lowe in Liberace?
Yeah.
Man.
Yeah.
Well, there are some real decisions made
for his character and his look in this.
Well, that's what that guy looked like.
Is that right?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, look at him up, he's creepy looking.
I will, I will.
Is he still alive?
Because I'm so sorry for what Chuck just said.
I don't know.
But yeah, that was plastic surgery gone bad for sure.
Yeah.
Texture is another decision that you're gonna have
to make in addition to shape and size.
And basically there's smooth and there's textured
and each has their pros and their cons.
Texture implants, we should say when you,
when you have breast surgery,
something that's gonna happen is scar tissue
is gonna develop.
Yeah, no matter what.
Anytime you introduce a foreign object into your body,
your body basically defends the rest of your body
against it by forming scar tissue around it
and basically compartmentalizing it.
And in the case of breast augmentation surgery,
this is called a capsular contracture.
Yeah, and it's gonna happen.
Don't be freaked out if it happens because it's gonna happen.
It's just the degree to which it happens
could become problematic.
Right, and there's, there's post-implant surgeries
that can take place to remove some of the excess scar tissue
if too much happens or your breasts become too hard
as a result.
But you're right, it is gonna happen.
And some implants have been created to,
I guess, make the most out of this.
Texture implants are designed so that the scar tissue
basically grips the implant and holds it in place.
Yeah, and I also got the idea too
that less scar tissue will form
because it sticks to the implant.
I guess the body just thinks, okay, this is working.
My job's done?
Exactly.
There are some drawbacks to textured implants.
Apparently they're not quite as realistic
in their movement, look, feel, that kind of thing.
Yeah, and they're more likely to rupture too.
Yes.
Which is not good.
Smooth implants, they actually will move around
inside the capsular contracture,
the scar tissue sac that develops,
which is good for look, feel, it's much more natural.
The problem is that since they can move around,
if you have something like a,
if you choose a contour or teardrop shaped breast implant,
if that thing flips upside down,
your breast looks to form now and you have a problem.
Yeah, or it can cause something called rippling,
which we'll get into the problems
that can arise later on.
And there's this lady in Akron actually, Ohio,
it's probably a good time to mention this.
She is trying to develop a breast implant
that actually, well, it can accomplish a lot of things,
is she calls it the breast implant of the future.
It can emit basically the drugs
that they give people orally.
She is trying to build into the implant itself
to emit these drugs naturally.
And she thinks one day breast implants can be,
can actually detect cancer cells
if her research is, you know, if she gets to that point.
If I have the funding, that's what she's saying.
She's looking for too many boxes.
I've got the breast implant of the future,
I just need the funding.
But yeah, she's working hard to try and reduce things
like the inflammatory response and scar tissue,
building it into the breast implant itself,
which is pretty cool, I think.
And then Chuck, we kind of already talked about it,
but another choice is whether you're gonna have pre-filled
or unfilled or also known as expandable implants.
Yeah, the spectrum expandable is sort of like
a test drive almost, where you have the implant put in,
there is a three-part valve system in your armpit
where you actually can fill and release
and extract some of the saline or I guess silicone.
I don't know if they can do that for silicone.
I know they can for, can they?
It's gel, I think you can, yes.
Well, basically it's like a test drive,
they put it in and they can make them larger or smaller
through your armpit until you're satisfied.
It's kind of like doing the rice test,
but a couple steps further.
More than a couple.
Because you're out there walking around,
saying what do you think?
Yeah, and you've got a port in your armpit.
Right, but then after you say this is it,
this is the right size, they remove the port.
So, obviously there's a bunch of choices
and you, the patient, the person
who is getting the breast implant,
have a lot of things to decide,
but then once you've decided all that,
it's up to the surgeon to make another series of decisions.
And we'll get into the procedure
right after this message break.
On the podcast, Hey Dude, the 90s called David Lasher
and Christine Taylor, stars of the cult classic show, Hey Dude,
bring you back to the days of slip dresses
and choker necklaces.
We're gonna use Hey Dude as our jumping off point,
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All right, so back to it, Chuck.
Let's talk surgery, huh?
Yes.
All right, the most important thing they say
with a breast implant is not all the other decisions
you've made up into this point.
It's location, location, location.
It really is.
It's the skill of your surgeon with the placement
of the implant, because that's where things
will generally go wrong.
And there are three choices, sub-glandular,
sub-pectral, and sub-muscular.
And again, like with everything else,
there are advantages and disadvantages to all three.
Yeah.
Sub-glandular is behind the mammary gland
in front of the muscle.
It's the least complicated.
You're gonna get out of there and recover quicker.
If you're athletic, it's probably has some advantages.
But you have an increased chance
for that capsular contracture we were talking about.
You might be able to see it sometimes, which is not good.
Like through the skin.
Yeah, and it's more vulnerable
because it's just kind of right there behind the skin.
Plus also, there's very little, besides the adipose,
the fatty tissue, holding it in place.
Yeah.
So it can produce that rippling thing,
which is a sagging that produces basically,
what's that called like on your skin
when you gain weight and then lose it?
I don't know.
Stretch marks.
Oh yeah.
It looks kind of like that, but I think they're deeper.
Okay.
Sub-pectral's next.
Sub-pectral is, so you remember at the back
between the adipose and the chest wall,
you've got your two pectoral muscles.
Yeah.
The one in front, the bigger the two,
the pectoralis major,
is goes in front of the implant
and the pectoralis minor goes behind it.
Yeah, so it's sort of sandwiched in the middle there.
Yeah, you have to cut the muscle,
put the implant in between them,
and then lay it back down.
Yeah, and it's gonna reduce the risk
of that capsular contracture and the rippling,
which is good, but of course,
your recovery time is gonna be a little bit longer.
It's gonna be a little more painful.
Anytime they're manipulating muscle,
it's gonna be pretty painful.
Yeah.
There's gonna be more swelling and stuff like that.
Yeah.
The implant can also kind of droop.
There's still a risk that it's gonna pull down
because it's held in place more than it is
with the subglangular.
Yeah.
But less than the submuscular.
This is, if you want your implant to not sag,
you wanna go with the submuscular, the third type.
Yeah, that is fully behind the chest muscle wall,
and it has some great advantages,
like it doesn't get in the way of mammograms.
Which is a big deal.
Yeah, it's a big consideration for sure.
Yeah, silicone and saline implants placed in front of
or between the muscles can mess with mammograms.
Yeah, and you need to tell, by the way,
I'm sure you probably know this if you have breast implants,
but you should always tell your doctor.
Right.
If they don't know when you go to get a mammogram.
Yeah.
Because they have different procedures and techniques
that they can work around and stuff.
Yes.
So, those are the three types of, three implant locations.
Yeah, and the recovery for the last one
is even longer, but it has the same complications
as the subpectoral.
Anytime you have to incise muscle and manually adjust it,
you're gonna have a recovery time involved.
That's true.
Man, that's gotta hurt.
Should we talk about, we've gotta talk about
the polypropylene real quick,
just because even though it's not around anymore.
The string implant?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was developed by a guy, a doctor,
named Dr. Gerald W. Johnson.
And the quote from this article says,
it was designed to yield extreme,
almost cartoonish breast sizes.
And it basically, the polypropylene absorbed fluid
like constantly over time.
And the breasts never stopped growing.
And it has been banned since 2001 by the FDA.
And although they say it was very popular
among adult entertainers for a while.
Yeah.
And yeah, this is where I get a little judgy.
It was really weird looking.
Oh, you saw some pictures?
Yeah.
And I don't get it at all.
Is it cartoonish?
Yeah.
Very much so.
So, okay.
That's my only judgment.
Nice.
Yeah.
My only judgment is I don't get that one.
Researching this article, I want to be like,
I'm researching breast implants.
I'm not a creep.
All right.
People walk by your desk.
Yeah.
So, Chuck, let's talk procedure.
Okay.
We're in the operating room.
All the decisions have been made.
Pre-op has been done, PrEP.
And the surgeon's going to start by making an incision.
And there's really basically four types of incisions
that are favored among breast augmentation procedures.
You've got the periareolar,
which is apparently one of the most common ones.
But to me, it seems spectacularly, it's like,
there's a lot of room for complications.
You think?
Yeah.
What they're doing, I look this up.
The article doesn't do this justice.
The incision is made at where the ariola,
which is where it's the brown tissue
that surrounds the nipple.
Yeah.
We talked about that.
Okay.
So, it's where the ariola meets the regular colored
pigmented skin of the breast.
Yeah.
But the whole ariola is cut and pulled out.
Yeah.
And then using a sterile sleeve wrapped around it,
the implant is put in through that hole
in the front of the breast.
Yeah.
And then unrolled and the sleeve is removed.
But you're going around the milk ducts
and all of the epithelial system of the breast.
Yeah.
And it seems like you're exposing
some really important stuff to a lot of potential damage.
Yeah.
You know, either mechanical or through infection
or whatever, I just don't see much reason aside from
the fact that it's very difficult to see the scar
because you're doing it where the pigmentation changes.
So, it's hard to see that difference in that scar.
Yeah.
Well, it also allows for more precise placement
of the implant.
I see that.
And I think it's, you know, there's surgeons doing this.
It's not you.
So, I know it freaks you out,
but I think it's the most common for a reason.
Okay.
So, that's one.
Yeah, but that allows for subglangular,
subpectoral and submuscular placement.
So, that's the other advantage
is you have all your options open.
Yeah.
There's also the inframammary fold incision.
This one makes sense.
Yeah, that also allows for all three placement types.
And that is just under the breast.
So, the scarring is, you know, not as visible, obviously.
Yeah, usually it's where the crease is.
Yeah.
The big disadvantage to this one is if you are going up
so much in cup size, if you're going up a lot,
the surgeon's going to have to create a new crease
for your breast.
Yeah.
And when making that incision,
since you want the incision underneath the breast.
You've got to stop talking about your hands.
Hidden by the breast.
He has to guess where that breast is going to hang now
and make the initial incision accordingly.
Yeah, that's when it's...
There's a lot of guesswork there.
Well, not guesswork, but,
because that makes it sound like...
Well, educated guesswork.
Well, I guess that looks good.
Well, no, he has to be like, where is this going to fall?
It's a forecasting.
Yeah.
Educated guess.
Yeah, very educated guess.
Then there's trans-axillary incision,
which is through the armpit.
Yeah, there's no breast-scarring at all, obviously.
It's more of a challenge
because placement's pretty difficult.
They use an endoscope,
and that is not the most...
That's not the strangest place.
No.
The strangest place is through the old belly button.
The tuba incision.
You can actually get a breast implant through your belly button.
Yeah, and apparently you can get a lot of surgeries
through your belly button, I think.
Maybe that's why it's there.
Maybe, it's the new port.
Yeah.
Tuba stands for trans-embilical breast augmentation.
That's a tuba incision, the belly button incision,
and basically they cut into the navel
at the top, at the ridge,
and then go, they burrow all the way up to each breast
so it makes a V through your subcutaneous fat.
Yeah, like Charles Bronson in The Great Escape.
Yeah, and then, yes.
And then they use an endoscope
to basically tunnel their way through
and see that they're going the right way,
and they push the implant up through there.
Inflate it.
Yeah.
Yeah, that sounds like guesswork.
Yes, but apparently that's the one
that has the least complications.
Yeah, there are a lot of limitations, though.
It requires an inflatable implant.
Obviously, you can't go through the belly button
with one that's already inflated.
It can only be used for subpectoral and submuscular.
And if there are complications,
and it seems like there are,
I don't know if I should say often,
but it's not rare to have complications
and have to go back and have what they call
a revision surgery.
You cannot reuse that incision.
No, they're gonna have to make
a transaxillary periareolar or inframammary fold.
Yeah, if they need to go back in again.
And apparently it's pretty rare,
like not a lot of plastic surgeons even try this one.
I think it takes a lot of skill.
Yeah.
Even though the complications,
the post-op complications are minimal compared to the others
because your subcutaneous fat and your abdomen
apparently heals very easily.
Yeah.
Just getting there is kind of a problem.
So let's say your doctor's ready.
You got the first incision.
First incision, what's up next?
Well, you've got your incision,
and so they have to cut a path through that tissue
depending on which one you use
that are either gonna work with the muscle or they're not.
And they need to separate and create a little pocket
for it to sit in.
They don't just stuff it in there.
Right.
They need to create a space.
And they have to figure out
where that pocket is best going to be
depending on the size, shape,
everything of the breast implant.
Yeah, again, an educated guess.
Yes.
And you've seen some surgery nightmares
with breast augmentation,
and that's like Dr. Quack, you know.
Yeah.
Dr. Nick looks good to have out there.
Yeah.
Sometimes a mastopexy, which is a breast lift,
is performed at the same time,
or you can just have that on its own
if you just want a breast lift.
Right.
But sometimes it's used with augmentation
in order to get everything in the right position,
and you want the breast to be pointing in the right way,
and you want the nipples and the areolas
to be in the proper place
and not looking off to the left and the right
or up or down.
Some surgeries require that you reposition the nipple
depending on how big the implant's going to be.
Yeah, and man, I saw with some mastectomy surgery,
sometimes they can completely remove the areola and nipple
and replace it.
Wow.
Onto a augmentation.
Oh, yeah, I guess with a periareolar incision,
if you're taking that whole thing off,
you know, I guess you could move it to another place
and show it back on, yeah.
What they can do.
Cisors can aid in positioning,
and that's sort of like it's attached to a tube,
it's an implant attached to a tube,
and that's almost like a live rice test.
Like you don't go home with that.
They just put it in there and...
Mid-operation.
Yeah, and see what it looks like.
It's not the final implant, it's a temporary one.
Yeah, and then they pull that out once they say,
all right, that's a good placement for this,
so just let me do it for real.
Yeah.
And then so if you have pre-filled implants,
you have to make a larger incision.
Of course.
And then you fill those up to their full volume.
And I think pre-filled textures,
textured is even the largest.
That's the biggest incision you're gonna have to make,
because you also have to make room
for this ridged implant that's already pre-filled.
And either way, you're gonna have to either top off
or totally fill up this, the implant, once it's in there.
Top it off.
Yeah, that's pretty much what it is.
So Chuck, we're talking augmentation,
it's elective surgery, plastic surgery.
And a lot of people think like plastic surgery
is called plastic surgery because it's artificiality.
Right.
But actually, it's derived from
the original Greek plasticos,
which means artificiality.
It means to mold or shape.
Something's plastic, it's pliable.
And that's what plastic surgeons do,
is they mold or shape things, including breasts.
It's like you said, it's not just making the cut
and jamming the thing in there.
They have to basically reconfigure
what the anatomy of the breast
to accept this new implant.
For the body, yeah.
Yeah.
And it does take a certain amount of skill.
But that's, that just struck me as interesting.
Yeah.
Why do they call it plastic surgery?
And it's not all just augmentation.
It doesn't always mean you're making your breasts larger.
There's also reduction mammoplasty,
which is breast reduction.
If you feel like you're too big
and you have back problems or for any other reason,
you can get breast reduction.
We already talked about the mastoplexy,
which is the breast lift.
Right.
And that's when they actually remove skin
and rejoin it to lift it up.
It's pretty simple, actually.
I wouldn't wanna perform it, I'm saying,
but in, what's the word?
Concept, it's pretty simple.
Right.
And then breast reconstruction,
a lot of times if your breasts have been removed
for mastectomy or damaged,
because of some accident or something,
they can actually reconstruct your breasts
in a realistic fashion.
Right.
We said women are the only humans that have breasts,
but there are electroprocedures for men
who wanna bulk up their pecs,
called pectoral implants.
Hey, what, did you watch Entourage?
No.
Johnny Draw, I don't think he got them,
but he wanted calf implants at one point.
I've heard of those, yeah.
Calf implants, yeah.
Peck implants.
Come on, guys.
See, I can judge, guys.
What are you doing, dudes?
So, well, we'll say what we're doing.
The arm, it's done with an armpit incision.
It's a lot like the trans-axillary breast implant
done for women.
And then go in there and lodge it behind the peck muscles
to just kinda bulk them up, to stick them out further.
And there you go, all of a sudden you are Charles Atlas.
Yeah, or you can have reduction as a man, too.
If you're Bob from Fight Club.
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Gynacosmastia, it's usually hereditary.
It can be as a result of your diet,
but basically it's when guys end up feeling like they have
boobs and feel like or do.
Yeah, and it's an embarrassing thing, I'm sure,
so you can get that removed.
It's basically liposuction just under the nipple.
Right, and if it's the result of a glandular disorder,
they'll probably just take the glands out while they're there.
And usually it takes more than one surgery,
but it can be corrected.
I wonder if insurance covers that.
I don't know.
Does insurance cover any kind of plastic surgery?
I don't know.
I bet you it wouldn't cover that
because it's still cosmetic, you know?
I don't know.
I mean, I think that there's insurance.
You probably have to show that it's a medical problem.
Right, but I think you can, if you show that you're suffering
from it psychologically, it might fall under it.
I don't know.
We'll find out.
Because I'll bet you an insurance claims adjuster
writes in and tells us.
That's my prediction.
And you know what?
I was judging on the PEC implants we do.
You sure were.
There may be cases I don't know about
where guys have sort of like malformed chest or something
and they just want to look normal.
Yeah.
I was talking about the guys who were like,
I want bigger pecs, duh!
Still judging.
Hit the gym, man.
Do some bench press, you know?
You want to increase your pecs?
Sure.
That's what I mean.
Yeah.
Push-ups.
Let's talk, let's-
Let Yumi sit on your back and do push-ups?
It's like one-handed.
Marshall Walker style.
Yeah.
Supposedly he never lifted weights.
Did you ever know that?
No.
Yeah, he never lifted weights in his life.
What did he do?
He had people sit on him and do push,
like 2,000 push-ups a day and stuff like that.
It was all either isometrics or like chin-ups, push-ups,
pull-ups.
Rolling a tractor-tire over.
Exactly, old school.
Let's talk risks, man, because this is,
first of all, it's surgery, so there's always
an attendant risk with any kind of surgery
where general anesthesia is used, right?
That sounds like a disclaimer.
Well, it's true.
I mean, surgery is risky.
Anesthesia is risky.
There's also infection.
Anytime you're cut open, there's a risk of infection.
But then breast augmentation surgery
comes with its own attendance of risks
that vary from definitely gonna happen,
like the capsule contracture, the scar tissue,
to extraordinarily rare, like semastia.
Yes.
Did you see this?
I did.
It was, I had no idea that it could happen.
Semastia is basically where your breasts join together
as the result of an augmentation surgery
and you have one mega-breast.
Yeah, I have seen some, they make braziers now,
like post-surgical braziers.
They try and separate some?
Yeah, they try and prevent that.
But yeah, I'd never heard of that either.
No, I guess they, so after surgery,
do they just kind of gravitate toward one another?
Actually, I'm not sure.
It just says it's a mistake.
So it's not like some just bad fortune.
It's actual surgical mistake.
You get to own a portion of the doctor's office
that did this procedure afterwards.
But yeah, the implants lift off the sternum
and grow together.
So I guess the scar tissue grows together in that case.
That's my guess.
It's kind of like a unibrow made of breasts,
but apparently it's fairly hard to correct
is the big problem.
Yeah, that's pretty sad.
When you go in to try and make yourself look better
and you feel bad about yourself already, maybe.
And then you end up with something like this.
But these are risks you need to know about, you know?
And that is the opposite of the total recall,
which is three breasts.
Oh yeah, remember that?
I forgot about that.
Man, that was a great movie.
I wonder if they put that in the remake.
Cause that was one of the sort of goofy signature moments
of that goofy movie.
Yeah.
That was, you know, it was the Philip K. Dick novel.
Yeah, that guy wrote like all sci-fi basically.
Yeah, pretty much any sci-fi movie ever
was written by Philip K. Dick.
Did you know that he believes he was possessed
by an angel later on in his life?
Really?
Yeah, he came to, he believed that he was possessed
by a benevolent spirit that basically took him
from being like a complete, shrub, drug addict, loser
who still wrote great novels
to just becoming like a person
with a fairly normal orderly life.
He cleaned himself up, he attributed it all of it
to this possession that he said this happened.
And that was the rest of his life?
Yeah.
They should make a movie about that guy.
I'm kind of surprised they haven't.
I'll bet someone does eventually.
And then I'll sue him because it was my idea.
Yeah, you can't just say that every time.
Sure, I can.
It's gotta be like your idea, a good idea.
Non-obvious, remember?
Isn't that part of the plan?
Sharknado is not obvious.
I know, everyone agrees you invented Sharknado.
Yeah, but that's like saying
they should make a modern movie on Charles Darwin.
Right, I made that up.
Right, you can't do that.
I'm not gonna support your lawsuit
against whoever makes the Philip K. Dick movie.
Because now you're having a depressing effect on innovation.
Yeah, you're right.
I apologize, everyone.
All right, so bottoming out, let's get back to the risks.
Bottoming out is when the implants sit too low,
the nipple rides too high.
And that is a result of another mistake, basically.
They cut out too large of a pocket.
Right.
It's gone too low.
It is correctable, though, again, with a revision surgery.
Yeah, there's a hematoma.
Yeah.
Which is basically blood collecting and pooling around it.
It can be painful.
Sure.
Requires drainage sometimes.
It can be lumpy.
Yeah.
We talked about mammography being interfered with
by breast implants, which is a problem.
But I guess there is technology, then,
that you came across that we can get around this.
Yeah, as long as they know.
But it can hide cancer growths and x-rays,
and it definitely is something to consider.
Yeah.
Especially if that's something that runs in your family.
Yeah.
Necrosis, which anytime you hear that word,
neck growths in anywhere, you're headed for bad times.
That is tissue death.
That is pretty rare, but it's really serious.
And it usually results in removal of the implant
and, like, sorry, you can't have breast implants.
Large scars, permanent scars.
That's bad news.
Again, the breast implant can rupture.
Apparently, most implant manufacturers
offer warranties for the implants themselves.
You've got to fill out your little card.
Sure.
And you also mentioned, like, what magazine do you like.
Yeah, exactly.
But there are a lot of things you can do to void said warranty.
Probably, like, leaning on fences is against the warranty.
Just things like that.
You have to, once you get your warranty from what
this article, as this article paints it,
basically you have breast implants down.
You have to be cognizant of that.
Or else they are at risk of rupturing.
Yeah, they're not indestructible.
Did we talk about saroma?
That is just a collection of fluid.
They're pretty minor, and they can usually just drain that.
With a needle.
Yeah.
And then we covered both semastia and rippling.
Yeah.
And those are the risks.
Yeah.
And you've got to consider all that stuff,
because it happens.
And it's probably your worst nightmare
if some of that bad stuff happens.
Yeah.
So I think you kind of hit upon it pretty well earlier.
You said, if you're going to do this,
you need to know all the risks.
You should be fully informed if you're
going to make a decision like this.
But if you make that decision, go for it.
Yeah, and your choice.
In singles, Bill Pullman completely talks right of it,
and basically tells her how beautiful she is
and how she doesn't need that kind of thing.
And it's like this sweet Cameron Crow moment.
Oh, yeah.
He wasn't into each his own.
He was turning down money and a potential client trying
to get a date, which he did not get.
Oh, I imagine Bill Pullman's pretty well off.
Yeah, he probably was.
What do you think, Secret Life of Walter Mitty?
Going to be good or no?
The trailer looks awesome.
It does look awesome.
It looks really, really cool.
But I mean, I've been fooled by trailers before, Chuck.
I know.
I've been waiting for this movie for a long time.
They were going to make it with Jim Carrey like 15 years ago.
I could see that.
He would work.
One of my favorite stories.
So I'm a little bit apprehensive, but it looks good.
Who wrote it?
It's right there, man.
Geez, I can't even think of it.
It wasn't Oh Henry, was it?
No.
It was.
Why'd you bring this up?
What led you to that?
You were talking about singles.
Oh.
And I thought that Ben Stiller had directed singles.
Yeah, those reality bites.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's taken me a lot to remind myself you're not
talking about swingers.
Oh, right.
So all those movies, 1990s.
What a waste.
If you got anything else?
I don't have anything else.
Oh, I have one more thing.
Apparently breast implants were linked to suicide, an
increased risk of suicide after a certain amount of years of
having them.
Oh, really?
But it just popped up in 2007, and it was found in one
study, and it made the new cycle, and then just went away.
Yeah, and that's all.
I didn't get a real accurate stat.
But the woman in Akron that's doing the breast implant of
the future estimated that about 50,000 out of 400,000 that
are performed per year do require, like, have
complications and require revision surgery.
So that's an eighth.
That's probably significant, surgically speaking.
I want to say also about the suicide thing, just based on
my knowledge of news and journalism and stuff like
that, if it just popped up once and you can't find
anything else, and all the reports on it or stories on
anything are all within a week of one another, five years
ago, six years ago, and there's no follow-up whatsoever.
It wasn't a thing.
OK, well, let's breast implants.
If you want to learn more, there's a really extensive
in-depth article on the site, including flash animations of
the different types of incisions.
Yeah.
You can type breast implant into the search bar at
HowStuffWorks.com, and it will bring that up.
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questions arise or times get tough,
or you're at the end of the road.
OK, I see what you're doing.
Do you ever think to yourself, what advice would Lance Bass
and my favorite boy bands give me in this situation?
If you do, you've come to the right place,
because I'm here to help.
This, I promise you.
Oh, God.
Seriously, I swear.
And you won't have to send an SOS, because I'll be there for you.
Oh, man.
And so my husband, Michael.
Um, hey, that's me.
Yeah, we know that, Michael.
And a different hot, sexy teen crush boy bander each week
to guide you through life, step by step.
Oh, not another one.
Kids, relationships, life in general, can get messy.
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And Chuck, take us out with some Listener Mail, huh?
All right, James Thurber, by the way, secret life.
Nice, nice one.
All right, this is from Todd and OKC.
And this is about Vulture Vomit.
Hey, guys, and Jerry.
I just finished listening to the podcast
and Vultures, it reminded me of a story.
A couple of my buddies were going to college at NMSU,
go Aggies, as New Mexico State.
They were driving through the desert
north of Las Cruces.
I've been there myself, actually.
When they came across a small wake of Vultures
eating some roadkill, two of the Vultures flew away.
It's a truck approach.
But the third was just a little too slow.
The poor bird cannonballed into the windshield,
which instantly shattered into tiny glass cubes.
See?
The Vultures head punched through the windshield
while the rest of them stayed outside.
The Vulture instantly puked all over the inside of the truck
while my buddy screamed in the truck
fish tailed to a halt in the middle of the highway.
Well, I think I painted one heck of a picture just now.
I know.
When they jumped out of the truck,
the Vultures wings were covering most of the windshield
as it struggled to get free.
They ended up having to pry its head out of the windshield
in the handle of a shovel.
And believe it or not, it managed to fly away.
Aside from a leg that was dangling and apparently injured,
it appeared to be OK.
I don't know about that.
Thanks for the ride, lady.
Now, I wasn't there, so I can't promise that the story
happened exactly as it was told to me,
but I can confirm that the interior of the truck
smelled like buzzard barf two months later.
Gross.
Keep up the great work.
You're one of my favorite shows.
Always happy when new episodes pop up on my phone, which
is every Tuesday and Thursday.
Yeah.
He's not good at recognizing patterns.
He should not be surprised.
Oh, there's another one.
Seems like this happens every two days.
I'll let my guard down and it's Thursday.
Hey.
So that's Todd from OKC.
Thanks, Todd.
You were not the Todd that I was talking to earlier about the pill.
That was a fictional Todd.
But how crazy would that be if that Todd did think
that breast augmentation surgery was carried out by pills?
Weird.
Weird.
Right back and let us know.
Will you, Todd, from OKC?
I agree.
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Hey, I'm Lance Bass, host of the new iHeart podcast,
Frosted Tips with Lance Bass.
Do you ever think to yourself, what advice would Lance Bass
and my favorite boy bands give me in this situation?
If you do, you've come to the right place
because I'm here to help.
And a different hot, sexy teen crush boy bander each week
to guide you through life.
Tell everybody, yeah, everybody about my new podcast
and make sure to listen so we'll never, ever have to say bye,
bye, bye.
Listen to Frosted Tips with Lance Bass on the iHeart radio
app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.