Stuff You Should Know - SYSK Selects: How Breast Implants Work

Episode Date: April 23, 2017

In this week's SYSK Select episode, the first attempt at breast augmentation surgery was on a dog. The second on a woman who went in for tattoo removal. From those weird origins hundreds of thousands ...of breast implant procedures are now carried out each year. Find out all about the advancements and techniques in increasing your bust. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 On the podcast, Hey Dude, the 90s called, David Lasher and Christine Taylor, stars of the cult classic show, Hey Dude, bring you back to the days of slip dresses and choker necklaces. We're gonna use Hey Dude as our jumping off point, but we are going to unpack and dive back into the decade of the 90s.
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Starting point is 00:00:57 Listen to Frosted Tips with Lance Bass on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hey there, it's your old pal Josh, this week's curator of SYSK Selects. And this week I've selected how breast implants work. It's a pretty great vintage episode. Has it all science, pop culture, history, surgery,
Starting point is 00:01:21 all sorts of weird stuff. And this episode is the origin of when I realized that Chuck says the word tattoo really oddly. So enjoy it, take care, tattoo. Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, from HowStuffWorks.com. Hey and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark and there's Charles W. Chuck Bryant
Starting point is 00:01:49 and Jerry's over there. So you got the three mucachos together. What's a mucachos? Well, mucachos and mucacha. Yeah. Is that right? Is mucacha a girl? Mucachos, it makes sense to be mucacha.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Probably, that's generally how it works, right? Yeah, but I also may have just made up a word in Spanish. It could be a snack food. Mucachos, the saltiest. Anyway, this is Stuff You Should Know and we want to extend a extra hearty welcome to all the additional 12 year old boys who are listening to this one.
Starting point is 00:02:26 We want to apologize in advance for disappointing you because you're going to be sorely disappointed. Yeah. And I would like to insert a quick COA. Okay. For myself. We're gonna be talking about breast implants and I'm gonna try not pepper the show with my own opinions
Starting point is 00:02:44 because we have the to each's own decree here. For sure. And I'm just gonna go ahead and say out front, I'm not into it. I wish people would just learn to love themselves, but I get it. And if someone feels better to do something like this, then that's fine.
Starting point is 00:03:01 No judgment here. Yeah. Who are we to judge? Yeah, it's gonna be tough in the parts about like the string, what was that one called? The string implant, it's dead and gone. Yeah, but still, we gotta cover it. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:15 And you might hear some derision in my voice. A little like, yeah, but again, if a string implant is what those women wanted to feel better than. Then you have to go to an underground doctor to get it now. Well, you do now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:30 And of course we're gonna, you know, it's not just like just augmentation, like, you know, mastectomies and men can get breast implants. So we're gonna cover the whole gamut. Yeah, you're giving a lot away here. People know. The whole, the whole farm.
Starting point is 00:03:43 People know. People are gonna, they're not gonna wanna buy the cow cause you just gave them all the milk. Hey, this milk and the cow are both free anyway. Yeah. So let's do it. That's my little COA. That was good Chuck.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Thanks. We are talking breast implants and we are going to explain everything there is to know about breast implants. Breast implants, not breast implants. That's a subtropical species of carnivorous plant. Yeah. That looks like a breast.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Oh, is that where it gets its name? Anyway, I want to have, I have a little intro. Okay. So have you ever heard that in France, the perfect breast fits into a champagne glass? I have not heard that. So Yumi told me this and I was like, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:04:33 I thought that at first too. And she's like, no, not a flute, you dummy, a coop. Oh, okay. Cause I was, I was thinking that's a very odd banana. It's a weird. Yes, it would be a little weird if that were the case, but a champagne coop. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:48 So she looked it up and was showing it to me. And while we were, while we were looking at that, we found another axiom that was possibly even more true. That in America, somebody commented underneath this, in America, the perfect breast clogs a toilet, doesn't fit into a champagne coop, it clogs a toilet. That's an axiom? It is according to this commenter who made it up.
Starting point is 00:05:13 I did not know that. I think the commenter made it up as a joke. Okay. And it was a pretty funny joke if you ask me. I thought I was going to get a bigger response from you, but well, I'll live with what I got. The point is, is if in America that is the standard, breasts so big that they clog toilets,
Starting point is 00:05:31 that's a pretty high bar to set, especially naturally, which is probably why some women turn to breast implants. Yeah. And speaking of America, this seems like a good place for that. They top the list in the total number of breast implant operations. But if you want to go per capita, they're number five. And the first four are Brazil, Greece,
Starting point is 00:05:54 Italy, and Colombia per capita. Okay. Which is to me, what matters? Per capita. Sure, okay. Obviously we have the most because we have more people than in those other countries. I am surprised that we're number five.
Starting point is 00:06:09 I would think we'd be higher than that. You know it's number 10 per capita, of course. What? Canada. Is that right? Yeah. They're like comfortably in the middle. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Although, no, that's still pretty high toward the top. Although, I guess it'd be about in the middle if you just did industrialized countries. Yeah, true. So anyway, there's my stat. That's a great stat. I've got another one for you, Chuck. Breast implants was the number one elective surgery
Starting point is 00:06:33 in 2012 in the United States. In 2011, it was lipo, but breast implants, breast augmentation, beat it out in 2012. By no's. I don't know how many, probably by no's because in 2011, it was 300,000 and changed lipo-suctions and in 2012, there were 330,681 breast augmentation surgeries in 2012.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Right. According to the Wall Street Journal. You know, if that was a rhinoplasty stat, that would have been a great joke. By no's. By no's. You know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:10 I bet that's on top five. Oh, I guess so, sure. In fact, I bet that's number three. There's several ways to find out, should we? No. Man, this thing's off to a rocky start. I'm just guessing. Okay, so.
Starting point is 00:07:25 I'm wagering. Let's talk breast implants. Okay. Before we talk implants, Chuck, we should probably talk about, well, you wanna talk about the history of them? Yeah, that's a good place to start. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:36 At the beginning. Apparently, a guy, a doctor named, two doctors named Frank Garrow and Thomas Cronin, came up with the idea, and Garrow specifically squeezed a plastic blood bag one day and remarked how much it felt like a breast. Right, and that was 1960-ish? Circus, yeah, 1960.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Yeah. And so he had the, that apparently was the quote unquote, ah-ha moment like, hey, we should do this. So they tried it out on a dog named Esmeralda. Yep. And not obviously, you know, they were just inserting it into a body. They weren't like, hey, let's give this dog boobs, you know?
Starting point is 00:08:14 I've always wanted to see what boobs look like on a dog. So they wanted to just see if it worked, and apparently it took enough to where they were like, hey, I think we can try this on a person. Yeah, Esmeralda chewed at her stitches, so they had to remove it after a couple of weeks, but I mean, I don't know that they were, it was definitely an improvement on what had been
Starting point is 00:08:33 an innovation among Japanese prostitutes during World War II. Yeah. Because American GIs, again, boobs that clog a toilet, they, apparently the Japanese prostitute said, hey, these guys like big boobs, let's give them big boobs. Let's steal some medical grade silicone from the docks of Yokohama. I thought it was sponges.
Starting point is 00:08:55 That was something, but they also- The silicone. They self-injected silicone directly into their breasts, which apparently worked, but it also gave them things like gangrene thanks to silicone rot at the site of injection. There was a lot of hematomas, very bad news stuff. But it showed this desire to increase breast size.
Starting point is 00:09:19 And these guys in the early 60s came in to deliver. That's right. And they did it in sort of a weird way. There was this woman named Timmy Jean Lindsay in 1962, a mother of six in Houston, Texas. And she had a tattoo of a rose vine on her breasts that her boyfriend talked her into, broke up with a boyfriend and was like,
Starting point is 00:09:44 I kind of really don't want this anymore. Went in to get the tattoo removed and- She had to change to whino forever. Yeah, exactly. And- Why are you saying tattoo? Huh? I've always said that.
Starting point is 00:09:58 That's tattoo. Tattoo, no? I mean, no. I mean, if you say it like that again to each his own, if you want breast implants, fine. If you want to say tattoo, fine. But I couldn't just sit here and pretend like I didn't notice that you were saying tattoo.
Starting point is 00:10:12 I've said that plenty of times and you've ignored me, so. Are you sure? Yeah. All right. All right, so anyway, she went in to get the tattoo removed. No, no. Go back, go back to tattoo. I feel too guilty when you say tattoo.
Starting point is 00:10:25 To get it removed and- What did she get removed? The tattoo. And she said that they said, hey, we got this new thing called breast implants. Would you like to try it? And she said, well, my ears stick out too much. If you pin my ears back some,
Starting point is 00:10:42 I'll let you use me as a guinea pig, basically. She knows how to bargain. Yeah, and that's what happened. That's the first breast implants were sort of a bargain like that. She went from a B cup to a C cup. That is correct. And this was at a time when women wore pointy cone bras
Starting point is 00:11:00 and stuff like that. There was a big emphasis on big boobs. Marilyn was big. Yeah, they had falsies even, like the padded bras. Yeah, so there was, I mean, this desire to increase your bust size. Sure. And to do it permanently, it was there.
Starting point is 00:11:16 And it just kind of took off like a rocket ever since then. Ever since the first procedures. The problem is there were all sorts of lawsuits associated with it too. Especially because they were using medical grade silicone that's derived from silicon, which is a mineral that apparently makes up about 14% of Earth's crust. Mixed with oxygen to create silicone,
Starting point is 00:11:41 which was originally a trade name of this medical grade silicon gel created by GE. And the early implants would rupture and there were a lot of lawsuits against some of the manufacturers, specifically Dow, who shelled out like three billion in payouts in just like the course of a decade. Yeah, and well, I guess we might as well
Starting point is 00:12:04 go ahead and let the cat out of the bag. In 1992, they finally, FDA said, actually they put a voluntary moratorium. They were like, basically asked, can you stop making them in doctors? Can you stop using them? Right. Except in certain cases. Yeah, like.
Starting point is 00:12:19 There was inconclusive studies, basically. They never found like hard proof that it could cause illness. But it was enough, I guess, in conclusion, to say maybe we shouldn't push on with this. Yeah, because when the implant ruptures in its silicone, the body absorbs the silicone and they're like, well, what happens to the body
Starting point is 00:12:39 after it absorbs the silicone? What happened? Right, so since no one knew, they created that moratorium. In 2006, the FDA finally said, there's no evidence that this is bad. Right. So you can go back to silicone.
Starting point is 00:12:53 And now, silicone implants make up 72% of the implants. You can get them without any special cases now, even? Yeah. In 2006, they lifted the moratorium. Oh, gotcha. Because for a while, it was just like, if you had a mastectomy or complications. If you were willing to be part of a study
Starting point is 00:13:11 going on five to 10 years. And the reason why silicone was so popular and the reason, actually, they lifted the ban, ultimately, aside from the fact that they never found any real provable medical problems from it, is that it's apparently far superior to the alternative, which is saline-filled bags. Yeah, they say, apparently, the silicone feels better,
Starting point is 00:13:34 looks better. It's more natural-looking, apparently. It moves. Oh, my God, I can't believe I just did that. And the saline is just kind of like a water-filled implant. Yeah. Should we tell everybody? Josh is talking with his hands, that's all we'll say.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Yeah, so this is not a video podcast, so that's okay. Yeah. All right, so... So silicone is back, I don't think I knew that. Yeah, back in a big way, 72%, man. Wow. That's a significant amount of 330,681. So let's talk about, before we get into how breast implants
Starting point is 00:14:11 work and how they're inserted and all that kind of stuff, let's talk about the breast itself. Okay. The anatomy of the breast, as it will. Apparently, you can break a breast down into two different, and by the way, only women have breasts. Men don't have breasts. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:31 But you can break a breast down into two separate parts. There's the structural component, and then there's the epithelial component. That's right, and that produces the milk. The structural component is ligaments, fatty tissue. There is muscle, but not actually as a part of the breast. It's behind the breast. Exactly, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:53 And there's a ligament that kind of works to keep the breasts suspended, supported. It's called the Cooper's ligament. Yeah, I looked into that guy, by the way. What was he like? He was just very big on describing anatomy in the mid-1800s, and he's got a lot of stuff named after him.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Oh, really? A lot of diseases, a lot of body parts. Cooper's ankle? Cooper's ligament is one of them. It's just an ankle, but he pointed it out first. Exactly. But yeah, they kind of call these muscles in the ligaments sort of like a natural brazier
Starting point is 00:15:29 to help keep the breast up. Right, and then there's the milk producing and delivery system, milk production and delivery system. It's the epithelial component. You've got apparently 15 to 25 lobes, or what they're called, and they're arranged kind of like a flower around the center of the breast.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Yeah, so if someone says your breasts are like a flower. They're complimenting your lobes. Exactly, and that's anatomically correct. Right. You can still smack them in the face though, if you want to. Sure, yeah, yeah. The lobes can further be broken down into lobules,
Starting point is 00:16:05 which are kind of like clusters of grapes, and there's a lot of these per lobe. Yeah. Right? And then at the end of the lobules, there's dozens, each lobule has dozens of bulbs, and that's where milk is produced. That's right, they're connected to ducts
Starting point is 00:16:20 called the lactiferous sinus, and that carries the milk to the nipple, and of course the nipple surrounded by the areola, which is that dark tissue around the nipple at the front of the breast, and there you have it. Yeah, and that's breast 101. That's the breast, and then behind it, you've got the pectoral muscles,
Starting point is 00:16:39 the major and the minor pectoralis, and then the ribcage behind that. So that's the anatomy of a breast. That's right. Got it? Yeah, they are, since we're talking size, obviously, with augmentation, it is not a scientific thing, but you generally go by bra size,
Starting point is 00:16:57 how they're manufactured, is by diameter and inches around the ribcage, under the breast, and then the old letter indicating the cup size. Yeah. In other words, like AA or AA, all the way up to, it says in the article, double D and beyond. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Like some fantastical, like rel. All right, so now we understand the breast and bra size. Yeah, and by the way, it's hereditary. Probably if you look at your mom and your grandma, it's probably what you're heading towards later in life. Right, there are things that you can do to impact your breast size positively or negatively, depending on your opinion.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Sure, weight. Yeah, some things that you can control, like menstruation, menopause, pregnancy, all affect breast size. Yeah, and guys hear a lot about, and actually girls too, hear a lot about this if you have a girlfriend or a wife. Yeah, but just becomes a common topic of conversation
Starting point is 00:17:55 when you live with somebody for long enough. Well, breasts. Yeah. I mean, they're a thing, they're there. They are there. That's a T-shirt. That's a movie. So check now that we have the anatomy of the breast.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Let's talk about breast implants themselves. Yeah, the actual thing that is implanted. Some people might not know this. I thought everyone knew, you know, has seen them before, but it's not... Has felt them, has slept with them on their pillow. It's not just like an injection or something. It is, there's not a pill you take.
Starting point is 00:18:32 It's an actual physical... Wait, wait, wait. Who thought it was a pill? There's one dude out there that thinks it's a pill. Oh, well, Todd, it's not a pill. It is an actual sac. It is an elastomer shell, which is an elastic polymer shell. And it is, generally these days, they are empty at first
Starting point is 00:18:53 and they're not full. Although... It depends. Well, it depends on what you're after. Well, you have the empty kind that they usually roll up when inserting, which we'll get into, or you have the pre-filled, which are not pre-filled to their final...
Starting point is 00:19:07 Destination? Yeah. And they're like a certain size. They can get to a certain size. I think those have fallen out of favor somewhat, but I'm sure... Is that right? Well, yeah, mostly they're not pre-filled these days.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Well, there's a lot of benefits to not having pre-filled again, which we'll get into in a little bit, but okay. The size then would not have to do with what they're already filled with, but what they're finally going to be filled with. And that's usually measured in cubic centiliters, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:38 CCs, as it were. CCs, and one cup size for every 175 to 200 CCs. And I guess this is where we should talk about the rice test. Okay. If you want to know what your breasts are going to look like, or if you were a man who always wanted to know what it would look like if you had breasts,
Starting point is 00:19:59 you can do something called the rice test. That's right. They apparently, this is the best way to tell. You cut a 12 inch length of pantyhose, although they say you can use baggies or whatever, but pantyhose is probably the most realistic. Sure. Tie a knot in one end,
Starting point is 00:20:15 and then use a chart which you can find online to basically fill with rice to estimate what you will look and feel like. For instance, about a half a cup is 125 CCs of volume. About 0.6 is 150 CCs and on up, and you can find the chart online. Just under three cups, 700 CCs. That's a lot.
Starting point is 00:20:43 That's three cups of rice. And remember, it doubles in your stomach, so you'll feel full. So they recommend to put it in a sports bra, wear that, wear it around, exercise in it, run errands, do whatever you normally might do to get the look and the feel of like, hey, this is what I'm gonna look and feel like,
Starting point is 00:21:04 and should I continue? Should I not? Are these too big? Are they too small? Ask the grocery store clerk who's checking you out. They're fine, man. All right. This is rice, everybody.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Well, they also say you can use water, instant mashed potatoes, and oatmeal instead of rice. I could see instant mashed potatoes being really good, because aren't they like flaky, it's flaky potatoes? I could see that. Rice is, that's, I mean, that's hard. Yeah, that's true. But um...
Starting point is 00:21:34 We should call it the instant mashed potato test. I think that's why they didn't. So anyway, that's apparently how you, and it's obviously you wanna work with your doctor to kind of like singles, remember that movie? When Bridget Fonda goes in for breast implants and Bill Pullman essentially talks her out of it. Oh, I forgot that part.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Yeah, but you're gonna do that. You're gonna work with your doctor on appropriate sizing. Yeah. It's not gonna be like weird science, you know, where you just like click on the mouse until they're tremendous and large. Yeah. With some 80s graph behind it, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:08 But you want it, you just want an appropriate size for your frame, basically, because not only just for looks, but for, you know, can you support it with your body frame? Well, yeah. That weight. And not just that, I mean, not just like the extra pressure that's gonna be put on your back and shoulders and all that,
Starting point is 00:22:22 but I mean, like your skin itself may have trouble supporting the breast implants, which is definitely something to consider as well. Yeah, and this article says generally they come in three sizes, but that's just not true. There's like 450 sizes. Well, like this article is written, I think, in 2003 or four. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:40 I mean, it's definitely breast implant, breast augmentation surgery has increased by leaps and bounds since then. I've seen up to 450 different varieties, and I think that's combinations of shape, size, that kind of thing. Yeah. But yeah, there's a lot of different sizes.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Mainly the sizes, again, it has to do, it's measured in CCs. The shape, there's still typically just two shapes that I ran across. Yeah. There's round and then there's a teardrop, which is also called contour, yeah. Yeah, and basically one, the round,
Starting point is 00:23:14 I guess it depends on what you're talking to, they can be more popular in that they're fuller and there's more cleavage and there's more lift, but they don't look as real. The teardrop shape mimic the anatomy of a natural woman's breast more. So some women might favor those if you want to look more natural.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Right. But round is the most commonly used, I believe. Well, I don't know if it still is. I take issue with that. Okay. I think that's a 2003 statement. Gotcha. Again, though, it has to do with what shape you choose,
Starting point is 00:23:52 you know, but not just what you want, how you want it to look, but I mean, the surgeon needs to have some input here, too. Yeah, and if you get a good surgeon, they're gonna guide you in the right direction, you know, that's part of the job. Right. It's not just to perform the surgery,
Starting point is 00:24:06 it's the consultation and advice and all that good stuff. Right. And since they're plastic surgeons to look good doing it. Yeah, and if they're not doing that, that means it's a bad plastic surgeon. Did you see Rob Lowe in Liberace? Yeah. Man.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Yeah. Well, there are some real decisions made for his character and his look in this. Well, that's what that guy looked like. Is that right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, look at him up, he's creepy looking. I will, I will.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Is he still alive? Because I'm so sorry for what Chuck just said. I don't know. But yeah, that was plastic surgery gone bad for sure. Yeah. Texture is another decision that you're gonna have to make in addition to shape and size. And basically there's smooth and there's textured
Starting point is 00:24:50 and each has their pros and their cons. Texture implants, we should say when you, when you have breast surgery, something that's gonna happen is scar tissue is gonna develop. Yeah, no matter what. Anytime you introduce a foreign object into your body, your body basically defends the rest of your body
Starting point is 00:25:07 against it by forming scar tissue around it and basically compartmentalizing it. And in the case of breast augmentation surgery, this is called a capsular contracture. Yeah, and it's gonna happen. Don't be freaked out if it happens because it's gonna happen. It's just the degree to which it happens could become problematic.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Right, and there's, there's post-implant surgeries that can take place to remove some of the excess scar tissue if too much happens or your breasts become too hard as a result. But you're right, it is gonna happen. And some implants have been created to, I guess, make the most out of this. Texture implants are designed so that the scar tissue
Starting point is 00:25:46 basically grips the implant and holds it in place. Yeah, and I also got the idea too that less scar tissue will form because it sticks to the implant. I guess the body just thinks, okay, this is working. My job's done? Exactly. There are some drawbacks to textured implants.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Apparently they're not quite as realistic in their movement, look, feel, that kind of thing. Yeah, and they're more likely to rupture too. Yes. Which is not good. Smooth implants, they actually will move around inside the capsular contracture, the scar tissue sac that develops,
Starting point is 00:26:26 which is good for look, feel, it's much more natural. The problem is that since they can move around, if you have something like a, if you choose a contour or teardrop shaped breast implant, if that thing flips upside down, your breast looks to form now and you have a problem. Yeah, or it can cause something called rippling, which we'll get into the problems
Starting point is 00:26:46 that can arise later on. And there's this lady in Akron actually, Ohio, it's probably a good time to mention this. She is trying to develop a breast implant that actually, well, it can accomplish a lot of things, is she calls it the breast implant of the future. It can emit basically the drugs that they give people orally.
Starting point is 00:27:07 She is trying to build into the implant itself to emit these drugs naturally. And she thinks one day breast implants can be, can actually detect cancer cells if her research is, you know, if she gets to that point. If I have the funding, that's what she's saying. She's looking for too many boxes. I've got the breast implant of the future,
Starting point is 00:27:28 I just need the funding. But yeah, she's working hard to try and reduce things like the inflammatory response and scar tissue, building it into the breast implant itself, which is pretty cool, I think. And then Chuck, we kind of already talked about it, but another choice is whether you're gonna have pre-filled or unfilled or also known as expandable implants.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Yeah, the spectrum expandable is sort of like a test drive almost, where you have the implant put in, there is a three-part valve system in your armpit where you actually can fill and release and extract some of the saline or I guess silicone. I don't know if they can do that for silicone. I know they can for, can they? It's gel, I think you can, yes.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Well, basically it's like a test drive, they put it in and they can make them larger or smaller through your armpit until you're satisfied. It's kind of like doing the rice test, but a couple steps further. More than a couple. Because you're out there walking around, saying what do you think?
Starting point is 00:28:32 Yeah, and you've got a port in your armpit. Right, but then after you say this is it, this is the right size, they remove the port. So, obviously there's a bunch of choices and you, the patient, the person who is getting the breast implant, have a lot of things to decide, but then once you've decided all that,
Starting point is 00:28:48 it's up to the surgeon to make another series of decisions. And we'll get into the procedure right after this message break. On the podcast, Hey Dude, the 90s called David Lasher and Christine Taylor, stars of the cult classic show, Hey Dude, bring you back to the days of slip dresses and choker necklaces. We're gonna use Hey Dude as our jumping off point,
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Starting point is 00:31:05 All right, so back to it, Chuck. Let's talk surgery, huh? Yes. All right, the most important thing they say with a breast implant is not all the other decisions you've made up into this point. It's location, location, location. It really is.
Starting point is 00:31:21 It's the skill of your surgeon with the placement of the implant, because that's where things will generally go wrong. And there are three choices, sub-glandular, sub-pectral, and sub-muscular. And again, like with everything else, there are advantages and disadvantages to all three. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Sub-glandular is behind the mammary gland in front of the muscle. It's the least complicated. You're gonna get out of there and recover quicker. If you're athletic, it's probably has some advantages. But you have an increased chance for that capsular contracture we were talking about. You might be able to see it sometimes, which is not good.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Like through the skin. Yeah, and it's more vulnerable because it's just kind of right there behind the skin. Plus also, there's very little, besides the adipose, the fatty tissue, holding it in place. Yeah. So it can produce that rippling thing, which is a sagging that produces basically,
Starting point is 00:32:17 what's that called like on your skin when you gain weight and then lose it? I don't know. Stretch marks. Oh yeah. It looks kind of like that, but I think they're deeper. Okay. Sub-pectral's next.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Sub-pectral is, so you remember at the back between the adipose and the chest wall, you've got your two pectoral muscles. Yeah. The one in front, the bigger the two, the pectoralis major, is goes in front of the implant and the pectoralis minor goes behind it.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Yeah, so it's sort of sandwiched in the middle there. Yeah, you have to cut the muscle, put the implant in between them, and then lay it back down. Yeah, and it's gonna reduce the risk of that capsular contracture and the rippling, which is good, but of course, your recovery time is gonna be a little bit longer.
Starting point is 00:33:09 It's gonna be a little more painful. Anytime they're manipulating muscle, it's gonna be pretty painful. Yeah. There's gonna be more swelling and stuff like that. Yeah. The implant can also kind of droop. There's still a risk that it's gonna pull down
Starting point is 00:33:23 because it's held in place more than it is with the subglangular. Yeah. But less than the submuscular. This is, if you want your implant to not sag, you wanna go with the submuscular, the third type. Yeah, that is fully behind the chest muscle wall, and it has some great advantages,
Starting point is 00:33:43 like it doesn't get in the way of mammograms. Which is a big deal. Yeah, it's a big consideration for sure. Yeah, silicone and saline implants placed in front of or between the muscles can mess with mammograms. Yeah, and you need to tell, by the way, I'm sure you probably know this if you have breast implants, but you should always tell your doctor.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Right. If they don't know when you go to get a mammogram. Yeah. Because they have different procedures and techniques that they can work around and stuff. Yes. So, those are the three types of, three implant locations. Yeah, and the recovery for the last one
Starting point is 00:34:16 is even longer, but it has the same complications as the subpectoral. Anytime you have to incise muscle and manually adjust it, you're gonna have a recovery time involved. That's true. Man, that's gotta hurt. Should we talk about, we've gotta talk about the polypropylene real quick,
Starting point is 00:34:37 just because even though it's not around anymore. The string implant? Yeah. Yeah. It was developed by a guy, a doctor, named Dr. Gerald W. Johnson. And the quote from this article says, it was designed to yield extreme,
Starting point is 00:34:52 almost cartoonish breast sizes. And it basically, the polypropylene absorbed fluid like constantly over time. And the breasts never stopped growing. And it has been banned since 2001 by the FDA. And although they say it was very popular among adult entertainers for a while. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:15 And yeah, this is where I get a little judgy. It was really weird looking. Oh, you saw some pictures? Yeah. And I don't get it at all. Is it cartoonish? Yeah. Very much so.
Starting point is 00:35:31 So, okay. That's my only judgment. Nice. Yeah. My only judgment is I don't get that one. Researching this article, I want to be like, I'm researching breast implants. I'm not a creep.
Starting point is 00:35:40 All right. People walk by your desk. Yeah. So, Chuck, let's talk procedure. Okay. We're in the operating room. All the decisions have been made. Pre-op has been done, PrEP.
Starting point is 00:35:53 And the surgeon's going to start by making an incision. And there's really basically four types of incisions that are favored among breast augmentation procedures. You've got the periareolar, which is apparently one of the most common ones. But to me, it seems spectacularly, it's like, there's a lot of room for complications. You think?
Starting point is 00:36:21 Yeah. What they're doing, I look this up. The article doesn't do this justice. The incision is made at where the ariola, which is where it's the brown tissue that surrounds the nipple. Yeah. We talked about that.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Okay. So, it's where the ariola meets the regular colored pigmented skin of the breast. Yeah. But the whole ariola is cut and pulled out. Yeah. And then using a sterile sleeve wrapped around it, the implant is put in through that hole
Starting point is 00:36:56 in the front of the breast. Yeah. And then unrolled and the sleeve is removed. But you're going around the milk ducts and all of the epithelial system of the breast. Yeah. And it seems like you're exposing some really important stuff to a lot of potential damage.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Yeah. You know, either mechanical or through infection or whatever, I just don't see much reason aside from the fact that it's very difficult to see the scar because you're doing it where the pigmentation changes. So, it's hard to see that difference in that scar. Yeah. Well, it also allows for more precise placement
Starting point is 00:37:35 of the implant. I see that. And I think it's, you know, there's surgeons doing this. It's not you. So, I know it freaks you out, but I think it's the most common for a reason. Okay. So, that's one.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Yeah, but that allows for subglangular, subpectoral and submuscular placement. So, that's the other advantage is you have all your options open. Yeah. There's also the inframammary fold incision. This one makes sense. Yeah, that also allows for all three placement types.
Starting point is 00:38:07 And that is just under the breast. So, the scarring is, you know, not as visible, obviously. Yeah, usually it's where the crease is. Yeah. The big disadvantage to this one is if you are going up so much in cup size, if you're going up a lot, the surgeon's going to have to create a new crease for your breast.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Yeah. And when making that incision, since you want the incision underneath the breast. You've got to stop talking about your hands. Hidden by the breast. He has to guess where that breast is going to hang now and make the initial incision accordingly. Yeah, that's when it's...
Starting point is 00:38:44 There's a lot of guesswork there. Well, not guesswork, but, because that makes it sound like... Well, educated guesswork. Well, I guess that looks good. Well, no, he has to be like, where is this going to fall? It's a forecasting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Educated guess. Yeah, very educated guess. Then there's trans-axillary incision, which is through the armpit. Yeah, there's no breast-scarring at all, obviously. It's more of a challenge because placement's pretty difficult. They use an endoscope,
Starting point is 00:39:13 and that is not the most... That's not the strangest place. No. The strangest place is through the old belly button. The tuba incision. You can actually get a breast implant through your belly button. Yeah, and apparently you can get a lot of surgeries through your belly button, I think.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Maybe that's why it's there. Maybe, it's the new port. Yeah. Tuba stands for trans-embilical breast augmentation. That's a tuba incision, the belly button incision, and basically they cut into the navel at the top, at the ridge, and then go, they burrow all the way up to each breast
Starting point is 00:39:49 so it makes a V through your subcutaneous fat. Yeah, like Charles Bronson in The Great Escape. Yeah, and then, yes. And then they use an endoscope to basically tunnel their way through and see that they're going the right way, and they push the implant up through there. Inflate it.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Yeah. Yeah, that sounds like guesswork. Yes, but apparently that's the one that has the least complications. Yeah, there are a lot of limitations, though. It requires an inflatable implant. Obviously, you can't go through the belly button with one that's already inflated.
Starting point is 00:40:26 It can only be used for subpectoral and submuscular. And if there are complications, and it seems like there are, I don't know if I should say often, but it's not rare to have complications and have to go back and have what they call a revision surgery. You cannot reuse that incision.
Starting point is 00:40:48 No, they're gonna have to make a transaxillary periareolar or inframammary fold. Yeah, if they need to go back in again. And apparently it's pretty rare, like not a lot of plastic surgeons even try this one. I think it takes a lot of skill. Yeah. Even though the complications,
Starting point is 00:41:06 the post-op complications are minimal compared to the others because your subcutaneous fat and your abdomen apparently heals very easily. Yeah. Just getting there is kind of a problem. So let's say your doctor's ready. You got the first incision. First incision, what's up next?
Starting point is 00:41:26 Well, you've got your incision, and so they have to cut a path through that tissue depending on which one you use that are either gonna work with the muscle or they're not. And they need to separate and create a little pocket for it to sit in. They don't just stuff it in there. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:42 They need to create a space. And they have to figure out where that pocket is best going to be depending on the size, shape, everything of the breast implant. Yeah, again, an educated guess. Yes. And you've seen some surgery nightmares
Starting point is 00:41:54 with breast augmentation, and that's like Dr. Quack, you know. Yeah. Dr. Nick looks good to have out there. Yeah. Sometimes a mastopexy, which is a breast lift, is performed at the same time, or you can just have that on its own
Starting point is 00:42:14 if you just want a breast lift. Right. But sometimes it's used with augmentation in order to get everything in the right position, and you want the breast to be pointing in the right way, and you want the nipples and the areolas to be in the proper place and not looking off to the left and the right
Starting point is 00:42:32 or up or down. Some surgeries require that you reposition the nipple depending on how big the implant's going to be. Yeah, and man, I saw with some mastectomy surgery, sometimes they can completely remove the areola and nipple and replace it. Wow. Onto a augmentation.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Oh, yeah, I guess with a periareolar incision, if you're taking that whole thing off, you know, I guess you could move it to another place and show it back on, yeah. What they can do. Cisors can aid in positioning, and that's sort of like it's attached to a tube, it's an implant attached to a tube,
Starting point is 00:43:08 and that's almost like a live rice test. Like you don't go home with that. They just put it in there and... Mid-operation. Yeah, and see what it looks like. It's not the final implant, it's a temporary one. Yeah, and then they pull that out once they say, all right, that's a good placement for this,
Starting point is 00:43:22 so just let me do it for real. Yeah. And then so if you have pre-filled implants, you have to make a larger incision. Of course. And then you fill those up to their full volume. And I think pre-filled textures, textured is even the largest.
Starting point is 00:43:39 That's the biggest incision you're gonna have to make, because you also have to make room for this ridged implant that's already pre-filled. And either way, you're gonna have to either top off or totally fill up this, the implant, once it's in there. Top it off. Yeah, that's pretty much what it is. So Chuck, we're talking augmentation,
Starting point is 00:43:59 it's elective surgery, plastic surgery. And a lot of people think like plastic surgery is called plastic surgery because it's artificiality. Right. But actually, it's derived from the original Greek plasticos, which means artificiality. It means to mold or shape.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Something's plastic, it's pliable. And that's what plastic surgeons do, is they mold or shape things, including breasts. It's like you said, it's not just making the cut and jamming the thing in there. They have to basically reconfigure what the anatomy of the breast to accept this new implant.
Starting point is 00:44:40 For the body, yeah. Yeah. And it does take a certain amount of skill. But that's, that just struck me as interesting. Yeah. Why do they call it plastic surgery? And it's not all just augmentation. It doesn't always mean you're making your breasts larger.
Starting point is 00:44:55 There's also reduction mammoplasty, which is breast reduction. If you feel like you're too big and you have back problems or for any other reason, you can get breast reduction. We already talked about the mastoplexy, which is the breast lift. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:10 And that's when they actually remove skin and rejoin it to lift it up. It's pretty simple, actually. I wouldn't wanna perform it, I'm saying, but in, what's the word? Concept, it's pretty simple. Right. And then breast reconstruction,
Starting point is 00:45:27 a lot of times if your breasts have been removed for mastectomy or damaged, because of some accident or something, they can actually reconstruct your breasts in a realistic fashion. Right. We said women are the only humans that have breasts, but there are electroprocedures for men
Starting point is 00:45:48 who wanna bulk up their pecs, called pectoral implants. Hey, what, did you watch Entourage? No. Johnny Draw, I don't think he got them, but he wanted calf implants at one point. I've heard of those, yeah. Calf implants, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Peck implants. Come on, guys. See, I can judge, guys. What are you doing, dudes? So, well, we'll say what we're doing. The arm, it's done with an armpit incision. It's a lot like the trans-axillary breast implant done for women.
Starting point is 00:46:19 And then go in there and lodge it behind the peck muscles to just kinda bulk them up, to stick them out further. And there you go, all of a sudden you are Charles Atlas. Yeah, or you can have reduction as a man, too. If you're Bob from Fight Club. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Gynacosmastia, it's usually hereditary. It can be as a result of your diet,
Starting point is 00:46:41 but basically it's when guys end up feeling like they have boobs and feel like or do. Yeah, and it's an embarrassing thing, I'm sure, so you can get that removed. It's basically liposuction just under the nipple. Right, and if it's the result of a glandular disorder, they'll probably just take the glands out while they're there. And usually it takes more than one surgery,
Starting point is 00:47:03 but it can be corrected. I wonder if insurance covers that. I don't know. Does insurance cover any kind of plastic surgery? I don't know. I bet you it wouldn't cover that because it's still cosmetic, you know? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:47:20 I mean, I think that there's insurance. You probably have to show that it's a medical problem. Right, but I think you can, if you show that you're suffering from it psychologically, it might fall under it. I don't know. We'll find out. Because I'll bet you an insurance claims adjuster writes in and tells us.
Starting point is 00:47:37 That's my prediction. And you know what? I was judging on the PEC implants we do. You sure were. There may be cases I don't know about where guys have sort of like malformed chest or something and they just want to look normal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:48 I was talking about the guys who were like, I want bigger pecs, duh! Still judging. Hit the gym, man. Do some bench press, you know? You want to increase your pecs? Sure. That's what I mean.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Yeah. Push-ups. Let's talk, let's- Let Yumi sit on your back and do push-ups? It's like one-handed. Marshall Walker style. Yeah. Supposedly he never lifted weights.
Starting point is 00:48:11 Did you ever know that? No. Yeah, he never lifted weights in his life. What did he do? He had people sit on him and do push, like 2,000 push-ups a day and stuff like that. It was all either isometrics or like chin-ups, push-ups, pull-ups.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Rolling a tractor-tire over. Exactly, old school. Let's talk risks, man, because this is, first of all, it's surgery, so there's always an attendant risk with any kind of surgery where general anesthesia is used, right? That sounds like a disclaimer. Well, it's true.
Starting point is 00:48:41 I mean, surgery is risky. Anesthesia is risky. There's also infection. Anytime you're cut open, there's a risk of infection. But then breast augmentation surgery comes with its own attendance of risks that vary from definitely gonna happen, like the capsule contracture, the scar tissue,
Starting point is 00:49:05 to extraordinarily rare, like semastia. Yes. Did you see this? I did. It was, I had no idea that it could happen. Semastia is basically where your breasts join together as the result of an augmentation surgery and you have one mega-breast.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Yeah, I have seen some, they make braziers now, like post-surgical braziers. They try and separate some? Yeah, they try and prevent that. But yeah, I'd never heard of that either. No, I guess they, so after surgery, do they just kind of gravitate toward one another? Actually, I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:49:43 It just says it's a mistake. So it's not like some just bad fortune. It's actual surgical mistake. You get to own a portion of the doctor's office that did this procedure afterwards. But yeah, the implants lift off the sternum and grow together. So I guess the scar tissue grows together in that case.
Starting point is 00:50:03 That's my guess. It's kind of like a unibrow made of breasts, but apparently it's fairly hard to correct is the big problem. Yeah, that's pretty sad. When you go in to try and make yourself look better and you feel bad about yourself already, maybe. And then you end up with something like this.
Starting point is 00:50:19 But these are risks you need to know about, you know? And that is the opposite of the total recall, which is three breasts. Oh yeah, remember that? I forgot about that. Man, that was a great movie. I wonder if they put that in the remake. Cause that was one of the sort of goofy signature moments
Starting point is 00:50:34 of that goofy movie. Yeah. That was, you know, it was the Philip K. Dick novel. Yeah, that guy wrote like all sci-fi basically. Yeah, pretty much any sci-fi movie ever was written by Philip K. Dick. Did you know that he believes he was possessed by an angel later on in his life?
Starting point is 00:50:50 Really? Yeah, he came to, he believed that he was possessed by a benevolent spirit that basically took him from being like a complete, shrub, drug addict, loser who still wrote great novels to just becoming like a person with a fairly normal orderly life. He cleaned himself up, he attributed it all of it
Starting point is 00:51:14 to this possession that he said this happened. And that was the rest of his life? Yeah. They should make a movie about that guy. I'm kind of surprised they haven't. I'll bet someone does eventually. And then I'll sue him because it was my idea. Yeah, you can't just say that every time.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Sure, I can. It's gotta be like your idea, a good idea. Non-obvious, remember? Isn't that part of the plan? Sharknado is not obvious. I know, everyone agrees you invented Sharknado. Yeah, but that's like saying they should make a modern movie on Charles Darwin.
Starting point is 00:51:43 Right, I made that up. Right, you can't do that. I'm not gonna support your lawsuit against whoever makes the Philip K. Dick movie. Because now you're having a depressing effect on innovation. Yeah, you're right. I apologize, everyone. All right, so bottoming out, let's get back to the risks.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Bottoming out is when the implants sit too low, the nipple rides too high. And that is a result of another mistake, basically. They cut out too large of a pocket. Right. It's gone too low. It is correctable, though, again, with a revision surgery. Yeah, there's a hematoma.
Starting point is 00:52:21 Yeah. Which is basically blood collecting and pooling around it. It can be painful. Sure. Requires drainage sometimes. It can be lumpy. Yeah. We talked about mammography being interfered with
Starting point is 00:52:32 by breast implants, which is a problem. But I guess there is technology, then, that you came across that we can get around this. Yeah, as long as they know. But it can hide cancer growths and x-rays, and it definitely is something to consider. Yeah. Especially if that's something that runs in your family.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Yeah. Necrosis, which anytime you hear that word, neck growths in anywhere, you're headed for bad times. That is tissue death. That is pretty rare, but it's really serious. And it usually results in removal of the implant and, like, sorry, you can't have breast implants. Large scars, permanent scars.
Starting point is 00:53:17 That's bad news. Again, the breast implant can rupture. Apparently, most implant manufacturers offer warranties for the implants themselves. You've got to fill out your little card. Sure. And you also mentioned, like, what magazine do you like. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:53:37 But there are a lot of things you can do to void said warranty. Probably, like, leaning on fences is against the warranty. Just things like that. You have to, once you get your warranty from what this article, as this article paints it, basically you have breast implants down. You have to be cognizant of that. Or else they are at risk of rupturing.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Yeah, they're not indestructible. Did we talk about saroma? That is just a collection of fluid. They're pretty minor, and they can usually just drain that. With a needle. Yeah. And then we covered both semastia and rippling. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:16 And those are the risks. Yeah. And you've got to consider all that stuff, because it happens. And it's probably your worst nightmare if some of that bad stuff happens. Yeah. So I think you kind of hit upon it pretty well earlier.
Starting point is 00:54:32 You said, if you're going to do this, you need to know all the risks. You should be fully informed if you're going to make a decision like this. But if you make that decision, go for it. Yeah, and your choice. In singles, Bill Pullman completely talks right of it, and basically tells her how beautiful she is
Starting point is 00:54:49 and how she doesn't need that kind of thing. And it's like this sweet Cameron Crow moment. Oh, yeah. He wasn't into each his own. He was turning down money and a potential client trying to get a date, which he did not get. Oh, I imagine Bill Pullman's pretty well off. Yeah, he probably was.
Starting point is 00:55:07 What do you think, Secret Life of Walter Mitty? Going to be good or no? The trailer looks awesome. It does look awesome. It looks really, really cool. But I mean, I've been fooled by trailers before, Chuck. I know. I've been waiting for this movie for a long time.
Starting point is 00:55:20 They were going to make it with Jim Carrey like 15 years ago. I could see that. He would work. One of my favorite stories. So I'm a little bit apprehensive, but it looks good. Who wrote it? It's right there, man. Geez, I can't even think of it.
Starting point is 00:55:33 It wasn't Oh Henry, was it? No. It was. Why'd you bring this up? What led you to that? You were talking about singles. Oh. And I thought that Ben Stiller had directed singles.
Starting point is 00:55:44 Yeah, those reality bites. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And it's taken me a lot to remind myself you're not talking about swingers. Oh, right. So all those movies, 1990s.
Starting point is 00:55:58 What a waste. If you got anything else? I don't have anything else. Oh, I have one more thing. Apparently breast implants were linked to suicide, an increased risk of suicide after a certain amount of years of having them. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:56:13 But it just popped up in 2007, and it was found in one study, and it made the new cycle, and then just went away. Yeah, and that's all. I didn't get a real accurate stat. But the woman in Akron that's doing the breast implant of the future estimated that about 50,000 out of 400,000 that are performed per year do require, like, have complications and require revision surgery.
Starting point is 00:56:37 So that's an eighth. That's probably significant, surgically speaking. I want to say also about the suicide thing, just based on my knowledge of news and journalism and stuff like that, if it just popped up once and you can't find anything else, and all the reports on it or stories on anything are all within a week of one another, five years ago, six years ago, and there's no follow-up whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:57:03 It wasn't a thing. OK, well, let's breast implants. If you want to learn more, there's a really extensive in-depth article on the site, including flash animations of the different types of incisions. Yeah. You can type breast implant into the search bar at HowStuffWorks.com, and it will bring that up.
Starting point is 00:57:23 And since I said search bar, it's time for message break. Stuff we should know. On the podcast, HeyDude, the 90s, called David Lasher and Christine Taylor, stars of the cult classic show HeyDude, bring you back to the days of slip dresses and choker necklaces. We're going to use HeyDude as our jumping off point, but we are going to unpack and dive back into the decade of the
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Starting point is 00:59:35 And Chuck, take us out with some Listener Mail, huh? All right, James Thurber, by the way, secret life. Nice, nice one. All right, this is from Todd and OKC. And this is about Vulture Vomit. Hey, guys, and Jerry. I just finished listening to the podcast and Vultures, it reminded me of a story.
Starting point is 00:59:54 A couple of my buddies were going to college at NMSU, go Aggies, as New Mexico State. They were driving through the desert north of Las Cruces. I've been there myself, actually. When they came across a small wake of Vultures eating some roadkill, two of the Vultures flew away. It's a truck approach.
Starting point is 01:00:10 But the third was just a little too slow. The poor bird cannonballed into the windshield, which instantly shattered into tiny glass cubes. See? The Vultures head punched through the windshield while the rest of them stayed outside. The Vulture instantly puked all over the inside of the truck while my buddy screamed in the truck
Starting point is 01:00:28 fish tailed to a halt in the middle of the highway. Well, I think I painted one heck of a picture just now. I know. When they jumped out of the truck, the Vultures wings were covering most of the windshield as it struggled to get free. They ended up having to pry its head out of the windshield in the handle of a shovel.
Starting point is 01:00:43 And believe it or not, it managed to fly away. Aside from a leg that was dangling and apparently injured, it appeared to be OK. I don't know about that. Thanks for the ride, lady. Now, I wasn't there, so I can't promise that the story happened exactly as it was told to me, but I can confirm that the interior of the truck
Starting point is 01:00:59 smelled like buzzard barf two months later. Gross. Keep up the great work. You're one of my favorite shows. Always happy when new episodes pop up on my phone, which is every Tuesday and Thursday. Yeah. He's not good at recognizing patterns.
Starting point is 01:01:11 He should not be surprised. Oh, there's another one. Seems like this happens every two days. I'll let my guard down and it's Thursday. Hey. So that's Todd from OKC. Thanks, Todd. You were not the Todd that I was talking to earlier about the pill.
Starting point is 01:01:26 That was a fictional Todd. But how crazy would that be if that Todd did think that breast augmentation surgery was carried out by pills? Weird. Weird. Right back and let us know. Will you, Todd, from OKC? I agree.
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