Stuff You Should Know - SYSK Selects: How Maglev Trains Work
Episode Date: February 1, 2020Thanks to the amazing properties of magnets, clever engineers have figured out how to make entire trains levitate above their tracks, letting them move frictionlessly and allowing them to reach incred...ible speeds. Learn about how maglev trains work and what's taking so long for us to get aboard in this classic episode. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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I've chosen a super cool episode that has it all.
Engineering, strange physics, Elon Musk,
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Welcome to Step You Should Know,
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Hey, and welcome to the podcast.
I'm Josh Clark, and there's Charles W. Chuck, Chuckers, Brian.
Yeah, woo.
And this is Step You Should Know.
Da, da, da, da, da, da.
Oh, is that what you're going with?
Sure, yeah.
I might bust right into CC Rider, all the style.
How are they going with the Muppet show?
Oh, yeah.
It's time we put on makeup.
Yeah.
What, was that somebody's giant stomach?
That's what it sounded like.
What was that?
Yeah, that's weird.
Did you guys hear that, that thing?
Yeah.
That was crazy.
That couldn't have been Jerry's stomach, there's no way.
All right, what's your intro?
Enough stalling, huh?
Chuck.
Yes.
You remember our magnet podcast?
Yeah.
I personally thought it was a great episode,
because we explained how magnets work.
Yeah, it was good, tough, but good.
Yeah, it was tough, but it was also kind of,
it was one of those ones where you're like, oh, OK,
that explains pretty much everything about magnets.
The thing that I've used before in my life,
I just kind of took for granted.
Some people think that they're magic,
but we kind of said, this is how they work.
I liked it.
So I liked this article in theory.
The one we're about to do a show on?
Yeah, yeah, about maglev trains.
Yeah, we did a video on maglev trains, remember that?
One of our interstitial shorts was on maglev trains.
Did we?
Yeah.
I remember doing the quantum levitation.
Was that it?
No, maglev.
Are you sure?
Yeah, because that's the only way I knew about any of this
was the fact that we had talked about it before.
Well, what did we talk about?
Maglev, you know, the basic principle in one minute
behind magnetic levitation.
Well, that's pretty much what we're going to do here.
Yeah, except slightly longer.
Yeah, so that was my intro, my non-intro.
And we should say also, everyone,
it is next to impossible to get up to the minute,
up to the year information about what maglev trains are
in operation, what are still planned, what's still going on.
So it is possible.
We may get that part a little incorrect,
but we're going to try our best to be as accurate as possible.
Yeah, and the reason why is because magnetic levitation
to power a train is so new.
Well, it's actually not that new because they've
been doing it for a while and fits and starts.
It was proposed ever since Tesla started noticing what
was going on in the late 19th century.
But it's so new in this regard as far as super fast speed
trains powered by magnets transporting lots of people
over distances, maybe great distances.
That is so new.
And there are a few different technologies
that it is kind of hard to keep track on which one is
in the forefront, which ones are being funded,
because this stuff is expensive.
It is.
And it's hard to get funding, especially here in the States.
Yeah, and if you just type maglev into Google
or your favorite search engine, or DuckDuckGo,
if you're kind of watching who's watching you.
Oh, is that like a secret?
It's like an anonymous search engine.
You will find there's projects all over the United States.
And all of them are like, we're shovel ready.
We're ready to go.
Just give us some money.
And they're not getting any money because the construction
costs are so enormous because with maglev trains,
you can't use existing railways.
Yeah, it's all new.
And I saw one quote.
And again, who knows how recent this is,
but 50 million euros per mile is what the German consortium
is quoting.
The thing is, is once you get it built, maintenance is not bad.
Yeah, not bad at all.
Because there's not a lot of wear and tear on it,
as you'll see.
No friction, baby.
And if you do look into maglev, you
will see that it is very much like the transportation
technology of the future that's going on today,
especially after looking into Elon Musk's tube hyperloop thing.
I haven't heard of that.
So basically, Elon Musk, who is like our good friend,
super rich guy, he basically just jotted down
this idea on a cocktail napkin.
And all of a sudden, it's like the new thing.
But it's an enclosed tube system that just you
put in a little car or whatever that seats 12 people
or something comfortably.
And you suck all the air out of it.
Yeah, there's tube.
No resistance.
So you can go really fast.
Basically, I think it goes about 700 miles an hour,
a little under the speed of sound.
So you can get from the west coast to the east coast
or vice versa very, very fast.
The thing is the construction costs for this
are just preposterous.
But if it can come along or come down a little more,
then it will give maglev a run for its money.
But if maglev can start to really get some traction
and get some lines going, it will
be the movement of the future for at least a decade or two.
Yeah, I saw where they're proposing both in the future
maglev trains that operate inside vacuum tubes as fast
as 2,000 miles an hour.
That's crazy.
Right now, they're breaking records like 300 miles an hour
plus.
What's the fastest right now?
So apparently, and this is kind of mind boggling
because maglev, as again, we realize everybody,
we haven't explained what maglev is.
We're just talking here.
But maglev, the great advantage it has
is that it supposedly goes faster than the normal steel
wheel train.
Oh, yeah.
Apparently, a TGV train, which is a steel wheel train in Europe,
they beat a maglev land speed rally that
was held by the Japanese maglev of about 351 miles an hour.
I think it went like 360.
Man, I don't know if I'd feel safe.
Yeah, I can imagine.
I was reading a quote from a maglev rider,
and they were saying, you can tell you're going really fast.
Like on the bullet train, Yumi's going to be so disappointed
because she's taught me how to say it in Japanese so many times
that I don't want to butcher it.
But the bullet train, it goes pretty fast.
Like 150 miles an hour or something.
But it just looks like everything's a blur.
You don't feel like you're going fast.
Apparently, in a maglev, it goes fast enough
to where you feel like, holy cow, we're going 350 miles an hour.
Well, our very own parent company
did a show, World's Fastest Trains.
And I watched the maglev segment,
and the dude was in the front room with the driver,
and they were like, all right, we're going 300 miles an hour
now.
And it's hard to tell on the TV exactly how
fast we're going because I looked, and I was like, well,
it looks like about 100 to me.
But yeah, I think being on the train.
And I think the key to not feeling too weird is, obviously,
you're not being shot out like a bullet.
You're ramping up to that speed.
So that helps.
Plus, if you dress normally for your train ride,
you'll feel less weird too.
That's right.
Also, hold on one more thing.
We're talking very high speeds, 350 miles an hour.
That's the speed record of a maglev.
But they're averaging like 250 or more,
which means if you get these things built,
you're going to expand the range of where people can live
and commute and go to work every day tremendously.
So there is a lot of value in creating these maglevs, right?
Are we there yet?
Well, before we do that, let's just
might as well do a message break now, huh?
I think it's a good time.
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All right, so now can we get down to brass tacks?
Yes, let's.
OK, um, this is kind of confusing,
because I read a paper in 1980, I think 1980,
where this guy was saying, like, there's a lot of people
calling all these different technologies maglev.
Yeah.
This is all very early stage proposal,
hadn't been proven yet.
Yeah.
But he was saying there's at least seven different kinds
of technology here that everyone's calling maglev,
that are different enough that it doesn't,
they're just different.
Yeah.
But for the purposes of this podcast,
we can get away with maglev.
But we have to point out that there
are some really different systems that are in use
and being proposed right now.
And a lot of them have to do with the suspension systems.
Yeah, I think what's going on now,
there are three pretty much leading competing systems,
right?
Yeah, because we should say, Chuck, a maglev train is a train
that uses magnets to float above a track.
Yeah.
By either a half a centimeter to, I saw one that floats up
to a foot off the track.
That's a little scary.
It seems a little scary, but apparently the higher you
go and that high end of the range, the more stable it is.
All right.
Yeah, but so the train is literally not touching the tracks
and it floats along.
And the reason that's why it can go so fast
is because there's no friction.
No friction.
The only resistance is air.
Right.
And they're super sleek, of course.
Yeah.
So even the air is cut down.
So let's go to Germany first because they
have a system called TransRapid International.
There's also a TransRapid USA now, I think.
USA.
That's right.
And the German version is electromagnetic suspension.
And the way that the guy on the Discovery Channel
show described it was that electromagnets,
well, when you use electromagnets,
they're only magnetized when there's a power source involved.
When there's electricity running through them.
Exactly.
So that's important to remember.
It is, and we'll point out why later.
Because in the German system, the EMS system,
it's all about attraction.
It's not magnets repelling each other.
It's magnets that are attracted to each other.
And the reason that they float is they're basically
switching it on and off, pulsing the electromagnetic magnet
so fast that it creates that hovering attraction.
OK.
So that's the German version.
So, OK.
And apparently, this German version,
I think they do use repulsive magnets,
but on the sides for the guidance magnets.
Yeah.
So to make it hover, they're turning it on an awful lot.
So it wants to stick, but no, but stick, but no.
Yeah, and there's not a dude on a switch doing it really fast.
No, it's all programmed to pulse.
Right, they have computers handling it.
Sure.
And then so this is the suspension system
you're talking about, right?
The electromagnetic suspension.
Yeah, the EMS.
And the word suspension is kind of easily overlooked.
But in this case, we're literally
talking about how the train is suspended in midair
above the track in this case.
And with the EMS, it's about, I think,
half a centimeter to a centimeter.
It's very close to the track.
And they use the electromagnets to attract.
And they use the guidance magnets,
which are magnets installed on the side of the train
that are along the side of the track
to repel magnets along the side of the track
to keep the train from bumping into the guide rails.
But it requires a computer system that constantly make
adjustments to the current that's going through these
electromagnets to either attract the train to make it float
or to repel it from the sides to adjust it
to make sure it never bumps into the rails or the track.
Because if you're going 350 miles an hour
and your train scuffs the track, you're in big trouble.
You're in big trouble.
One advantage of this, the German system,
is that you only need to power on for the section of track
that you're using at the time.
So they literally will turn on a section of track,
the train goes over it, and then they'll turn it back off.
So it's very economically fuel, well, not fuel efficient,
because it's not fuel, but power efficient.
And it doesn't use fossil fuels in the sense
that a normal train does, although if you go far enough
down the line, that electricity has to come from somewhere.
So ultimately, it is coming from fossil fuels.
But the fuel efficiency is incredible compared
to a normal train that burns fossil fuels just to move, right?
The guy that's shoveling coal into a fire.
Yeah.
I should say, so my understanding of the delivery
of electricity to the track is the same
for both suspension systems, that you propel like that.
So the whole track is made of electromagnets, right?
On both systems.
And you're just sending electricity
to the electromagnets that are immediately in front of
and immediately behind the train.
Yeah.
And immediately under.
Yeah, because you need to float the train,
then you need to propel it.
Right, and the way you're propelling it is the magnets
that are just ahead of the train are going to be positive.
Yes.
And so that's going to attract the train,
meaning it's going to pull it forward.
Yeah.
And then the magnets behind it are going to be charged
so that they're negative and they are going
to repel the train, push it.
So in the front, the magnets are pulling it,
and in the back, the magnets are pushing it.
And again, remember, there's no friction here,
it's just air.
So it doesn't take a whole lot to make this train
go really, really fast, just using magnets.
Yeah, and they, in 2002, debuted commercially
in Shanghai, China, a pretty short run,
transporting people from airport to airport, basically,
at a speed, it speeds over 250 miles an hour.
So I read that the journey, the 19 mile journey now
takes about seven and a half minutes,
as opposed to about an hour in a cab.
And they were going to expand it,
but that was halted in 2008 over radiation fears by people.
And now it's being proposed as an underground system
like to go underground to halt those fears.
But in 2010, another high speed train in the area
was a non-Maglev system opened.
So they basically said, well, we probably won't do this.
We probably won't extend the Shanghai line now.
So yeah, I heard it's definitely on hold,
but I didn't hear that they decided
they weren't going to do it.
Well, the regular bullet train popped up
and they were like, well, now that we have that,
I guess we don't need the Maglev.
Oh well.
Oh well.
So Japan's got the other big rival system.
So the propulsion systems are the same.
You use magnets ahead of the train and behind the train
to attract or repel it, right?
To push it forward.
I believe so, sir.
The suspension systems are what differ.
In Germany, you're using magnets to repel it, right?
To attract it.
To attract it.
In Japan, you're using something called the Meisner effect.
So basically Chuck, the Meisner effect is
where you take a super cooled superconductor, right?
Yes.
I think like liquid helium temperature,
which is very, very cold.
Yeah.
And you put it in a magnetic field.
The magnetic field basically hugs it.
It goes around it rather than through it, okay?
Yes.
So when you do that, the field actually levitates the thing.
So if you take enough superconductors
that are at the right temperature,
and you put them in the presence of a magnetic field,
whole bunch of magnets, say on a train,
the magnet will float, it will levitate.
That's right.
And that's the electrodynamic suspension
that the Japanese are using.
So basically you have a tunnel, a magnetic field tunnel
that these things are traveling through,
which means that they don't need any extra magnets
on the sides, or they don't need any on the bottom,
or extra magnets on the bottom.
It's just going to stay put within this bent magnetic field
that's warped to wrap around it.
That's right.
It's never going to drop, and it's totally stable,
which is the big, that's a big advantage
from what I understand of the Japanese system
over the German system.
The stability doesn't require a bunch of computers
to constantly adjust it,
and it is just inherently more stable
because it's not just being held up from the bottom
and then a little on the sides.
It is wrapped in this basically blanket
of an electromagnetic field.
Right.
It can conduct power electricity
even when the power is cut off,
so that's a definite advantage.
Although the German system does have battery backups,
it's not like if the power went off,
the train would just go, and stop.
Right.
But the German one doesn't need tires,
and the Japanese one does.
Yeah, because it needs to ramp up to a certain speed
in order to begin the float.
It doesn't just start immediately.
What is it, like 88 miles per hour?
That's back to the future.
62 miles an hour.
And I think they use liquid nitrogen,
and it's just expensive to super cool these coils.
And I think that's one of the drawbacks,
but they're all expensive.
They are very expensive.
None of this is, they haven't figured out a cheap way
to do any of this.
No, there's a proposed line in Japan.
It's the one that set that land speed record
for Maglev trains.
Right.
It's the JR Token, that's the railway company.
The JR Token?
Kind of close, but it's their line.
It supposedly is already in operation.
I read somewhere that it's moved
like a million people already,
but they have a proposed line
that they want to open by 2027.
And it's from Tokyo to Nagoya.
And then they want to extend that
from Tokyo to Osaka by 2045.
And they're talking like,
it's like a $50 billion project.
And I think that's just the first line.
Yeah, that's, yeah, it sounds about right.
But the reason that it probably will happen
is they're basing all of this on data,
showing that people are going to keep moving
to Japan and Osaka.
So they're gonna have customers,
and they're not relying on any government money.
They have so much money,
they're just going to fund it themselves.
Is this privately funded?
Yeah.
Another con though of the Japanese version
is that if you have a pacemaker,
you don't want to get on that train
because that magnetic field will wreak havoc
and you probably won't live.
It will shut you down.
It will shut you down.
And then there's the induct track.
And that is another type of EDS system,
which is the Japanese system,
except that they use room temperature magnets
and from what I could tell,
this is as close to just the whole thing
of two magnets, regular magnets opposing each other,
and they're just gonna use that, right?
Yeah.
Like it's as close to we get as you going out to the store
and getting two magnets and putting their like poles
against each other so that they repel.
Yeah, there's actually something called the Hallbach Array,
which is a way to just line up the magnets
in certain directions so that their poles are facing
north, south, east, or west.
And when you put them together in a clump,
basically the magnetic field below the magnets doubles,
the magnetic field on the top of the magnet
cancels one another out.
So you have your extra strong magnetic field
that can produce this Meisner effect basically
without this super cooled super conductor.
Yeah, and these aren't even electromagnetics,
I don't think, aren't they just magnets?
I think they're permanent room temperature magnets.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
There are three designs right now,
the induct track one, two, and three.
One is high speed, two is slow speed,
and three is heavy load, slow speed.
Yeah.
So I guess just freighting stuff back and forth.
I guess so.
You know, they did this in London at one point,
but then shut it down like in the 80s.
They had a maglev train?
Yeah, just a very slow moving, like,
it might have been an airport type situation.
You gotcha.
And I looked up the one here in Atlanta,
the new airport train,
and I thought it might have been maglev,
but of course it's not.
It's just wheels.
Just stupid wheels.
Although they have-
Where will Atlanta have its day?
Well, they have proposed one.
Atlanta's one of the cities that's trying to get maglev
going between Atlanta and Chattanooga.
Yeah.
And there's one proposed between DC and Baltimore.
LA and Las Vegas.
Yeah, LA and Vegas.
And I think one from Pittsburgh to someplace,
but I'm not sure exactly where.
I saw that one too.
I don't remember where.
It might have been DC to Pittsburgh.
DC, Philly.
Yeah, well, hold on.
We're getting ahead of ourselves, man.
Well, no, these are just proposals.
And they're having a hard time getting the funding
they need for any of these to really take off.
Right, because it's expensive.
It is.
Chuck, how about a message break, huh?
Hey, let's do it.
Okay.
Stuff you should know.
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All right, so this whole idea of going 350 miles an hour
through space, even without friction, is awesome.
It is awesome.
It can also be deadly.
There have already been maglev accidents.
Yeah, the one in Germany was a little distressing,
because in 2006, it crashed into a repair car
that was accidentally left on the track.
And this was a test, too.
So it's like, everything should have been extra.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, why do you leave a car on the track, period?
I don't know.
I don't know.
So actually, people died in that one.
The train was going at least 120 miles an hour
when it struck the car.
So it must have just been getting up to speed, I guess.
But yeah, 29 people died on that one.
There was another one in Shanghai on that line
that is in operation.
Yeah, that was just a fire, though.
Yeah.
And I don't want to make light of that,
but it wasn't like a crash or an incident like that.
Yeah, I'm just glad no one got hurt.
Exactly.
And this is breaking news, dude.
This was in the paper two day as we record it in real time.
OK.
The Washington Post said that Northeast maglev,
everyone's getting in on the maglev game.
Because it really is a great idea.
It's just really, really expensive.
But if you can get it up and running, it's awesome.
I mean, I imagine literally in 100 years,
there'll be a lot of this as major transportation.
Sure.
But we won't see it.
But as of today, November 4, Northeast maglev
has raised $50 million in private funds.
They can build five inches of track with that.
Exactly.
And they're trying to get the Washington Baltimore
lag going with private funding, because the government's
not ponying up any money for this.
I think we'll see it in our lifetime.
They think $10 billion between DC and Baltimore,
although they don't have a firm cost yet.
I wonder how long it would take, because that's not even
that long of a drive anyway.
Yeah, agreed.
Maybe 10 minutes, which if you live in Baltimore and work
in DC, I'm sure that would be extremely attractive.
Yeah, that's true.
I don't know about the Atlanta to Chattanooga thing.
Who cares?
Yeah, right.
People in Chattanooga would be psyched, I guess,
because they could get to the airport in like 30 minutes.
Yeah, I guess.
Not this in Chattanooga.
I'll go there and pay in for gold.
I saw this.
It was some discovery show, a video from a discovery show,
too.
And it had our good friend, Michio Kaku.
Oh, yeah.
And he was talking about a train, a bullet train,
that could get you from one side of the world to the other
in an hour.
Wow.
And the way that it would do that
is to go through the middle of the earth.
Basically, you would have to create this tube, basically
like Elon Musk's idea.
You create a tube, you evacuate all of the air out of it,
so that there's no resistance whatsoever,
and you just drop.
And the force of gravity takes you up to about 18,000 miles
an hour.
And then once you make it to the center and out the other side,
gravity starts to work against you, so it slows you down.
So within an hour, you should be able to make it
from one side of the earth to the other.
But as Dr. Kaku put it, it's going
to be very difficult getting through the center of the earth.
Yeah, that's the.
Build the tube.
I love all these theoretical ideas.
These guys come up with it.
It's not even remotely possible.
Right.
And he'd probably say, like, I was just
talking about what they asked me to talk about.
Yeah, he's like, I was at McDonald's one day
when I said that.
I was waiting in line at McDonald's.
So what else you got?
I got nothing else.
Maglev?
Yeah, the wave of the future.
Yeah, we have a standing bet now.
We will see a maglev train in operation
that we can ride on while we're both alive.
That's my bet.
You say no?
We will, like, I mean, if we went to Shanghai,
we could do it right now.
So I feel like I just won my bet while you're going to pay
for us to go to Shanghai.
Here in the United States.
OK.
Within our lifetime, which for me is going to be about 25 years.
While we're both still healthy enough to ride it.
OK, I'll take that bet.
OK, cool.
Let's see if you guys want to learn more about maglev.
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I'm going to call this opportunity for students,
filmmaking students, to get your film on.
Hey, guys, I worked for a nonprofit, Antiquity Now,
which is dedicated to raising awareness of the importance
of preserving our cultural heritage
by demonstrating how antiquity's legacy influences
and shapes our lives today.
Yeah, they have good stuff.
We follow them on Twitter.
Oh, you do?
Nice.
We do, Chuck.
Yes, we do.
Many of us at Antiquity Now are big fans of you guys.
We thought you would be interested in this upcoming project.
We are holding the first ever Legacy Quest International
Children's Film and Video Festival, which
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The festival will be held in conjunction
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Oregon.
So here's what you got to do, kids.
OK.
Young people, if you're between 12 and 15,
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For example, you could depict how the invention of the wheel
or calendar has contributed to modern society
or how ancient methods of solar energy
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You got that?
Yes.
Entries may be submitted by an individual student
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as the festival was designed in accordance
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for Social Studies.
Legacy Quest would be a great project for teachers
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Creating the video will support the development of literacy
research skills, writing skills, visual communication,
and storytelling.
And they have prizes.
First, second, and third prize along with 10 honorable mentions
will be announced at the Archeology Channel International
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And us.
And us.
So for more information and submission forms,
go to antiquitynow.org.
And that is from Chandra Goldfinger, not Chandra.
She points out it's Chandra Goldfinger, which is a great name.
It really is.
And again, that's May 9th through 13th of next year,
teachers, students.
We're going to go to find out more info?
Yeah, antiquitynow.org.
Yeah, or you can follow them on Twitter and ask them yourself.
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