Stuff You Should Know - The Rubik's Cube Episode

Episode Date: August 29, 2019

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Starting point is 00:00:00 On the podcast, Hey Dude, the 90s called, David Lasher and Christine Taylor, stars of the cult classic show, Hey Dude, bring you back to the days of slip dresses and choker necklaces. We're gonna use Hey Dude as our jumping off point, but we are going to unpack and dive back into the decade of the 90s.
Starting point is 00:00:17 We lived it, and now we're calling on all of our friends to come back and relive it. Listen to Hey Dude, the 90s called on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Lance Bass, host of the new iHeart podcast, Frosted Tips with Lance Bass. Do you ever think to yourself, what advice would Lance Bass
Starting point is 00:00:37 and my favorite boy bands give me in this situation? If you do, you've come to the right place because I'm here to help. And a different hot, sexy teen crush boy bander each week to guide you through life. Tell everybody, ya everybody, about my new podcast and make sure to listen so we'll never, ever have to say. Bye, bye, bye.
Starting point is 00:00:57 Listen to Frosted Tips with Lance Bass on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Welcome to Step You Should Know, a production of iHeart radios, How Stuff Works. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, and there's Charles W. Chuck Bryant and Jerry's over there, and we're cubing it up
Starting point is 00:01:21 with Rubik the Cube. Did you see that cartoon, Rubik the Amazing Cube? Did you come across that? No. Okay, I feel like we are well within our rights as far as fair use goes since we are talking about this, to at least play the highly disturbing but also strangely cute voice of Rubik, the Amazing Cube.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Can I play this real quick? Sure. Okay. My name is Rubik. That is it. Wow. It is awfully unusual, especially when you see this cube, they just basically took it.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Do you remember the goblin face on Maximum Overdrive on the front of that semi? Sort of. It's kind of like a cuter version of that that they put onto a Rubik's cube, put some feet on it, and then gave it superpowers. That's Rubik the Amazing Cube. Wow.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Before we go any further, Chuck, I just want to give a shout out for my Chicago show. May I? Yes. I'm doing a solo end of the world live show in Chicago on September 12th at Lincoln Hall. And if you want tickets, go to LH-ST.com. Okay?
Starting point is 00:02:33 Okay. So back to Rubik, Chuck. Yeah, it was kind of hard to believe that it took until 2014 for this thing to be granted National Toy Hollow Fame inductee status. It seems like it would have been much sooner than that because they have sold hundreds and hundreds of millions of Rubik's cube since 1980.
Starting point is 00:02:55 I had one, I still have one. I could do it at one point. Oh, really? Yeah, I could do it in a couple of minutes. Wow, Chuck, I'm impressed, I had no idea. Yeah, I can still do one side and the top row surrounding that side on all sides. And that's where I completely forget.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Oh, I see. So you couldn't do it in a couple of minutes now. You just have, you could in the past. Yeah, when I was nine. Okay, well, I'm impressed. I've never been able to solve a Rubik's cube. I've never been sucked in enough to really spend a significant amount of time.
Starting point is 00:03:37 But I was playing with my niece's Rubik's cube the other day studying for this. And I was like, yeah, I could see how somebody would become obsessed with this kind of thing for sure. Yeah, it was fun. And it was, you know, to call it all the rage is an understatement. It was one of the most popular toys of all time.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Invented in 1974 by a math enthusiast in Hungary, an architect and professor named Erno Rubik. Appropriately enough, they named him after the cube. That's right. I don't know what we're talking about. It seems weird to describe a Rubik's cube, but we'll probably be taking a task if we do not. I would say just come out from under the rock
Starting point is 00:04:25 that you've been living under. But we may have some young listeners who don't even know what this thing is, this piece of 80s ephemera, even though it's not ephemera because they're still pretty popular. Yeah. But it is a cube made up of 26 little mini cubes called cubies, which is kind of a cute little name.
Starting point is 00:04:42 I think so too. Not as cute as Rubik, the amazing cube, but yeah. Little cubies. And they are in a three inch by three inch by three inch. Well, that's not quite true. A three by three by three grid. Right. Eventually creating a cube that measures 2.25 inches
Starting point is 00:04:59 or 5.7 centimeters per side. Right. And so what? There's six cube faces because it's a cube. And each face has a different color. There's orange, blue, green, yellow, white and red. And when you mix these things up, it's just a jumble or a riot of different colors,
Starting point is 00:05:21 like you've never seen in your life. But the point is to move these cubies around through the 18 different ways you can move any given cube so that all of the colors are lined up. All the colored cubies are all the same on each face. And it sounds easy. Friends, it is not easy. Not at all.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Like maybe for some people it's easy, but for the rest of us normal folk, us normies, it is not easy in any way, shape or form. No, it is not. And in fact, they even suggest that you read about how to solve the Rubik's cube. It is the very rare individual that can literally just figure it out
Starting point is 00:06:02 without any help at all. That's really tough to do. So it's not like, you're not a cheat if you look at like how to solve the Rubik's cube and then memorize these patterns and practice them. That's sort of the point. Right, yeah, like go look it up. Like it's fine, no one will get mad at you for that.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Yeah, cause it's no fun to never solve a puzzle. Well, that's why I think I've never gotten sucked in. I was like, I'm not even, there's no way I'm gonna possibly stumble across this. And I just don't think like this. My spatial reasoning is terrible. I'm not great at math. I'm color blind, everything just looks white.
Starting point is 00:06:37 It's not the toy for you. No, it's really not. I can't discern squares from circles. It's just, I'm off. So originally, the Rubik's cube was called the Magic Cube. And it was invented, like you said, by Erno Rubik, who is Hungarian. So it was originally called the Bivis Kotska,
Starting point is 00:06:57 which is a Magic Cube in the Hungarian. And Kotska means butthead, I believe. It does, the magic butthead is what it was originally called. It was the Bivis and butthead. Right, nice man. It's like, where's he going with this? After all these years, it's great. No, I didn't.
Starting point is 00:07:15 But I was like, I'm going with this. We'll go with this. It's Chuck, I trust him. And I paid off too. So Mr. Rubik got his Hungarian patent on the mechanical design of this in 1977. And it was in Hungary only for a while. And it did pretty well in Hungary.
Starting point is 00:07:34 But that's kind of where it stayed. It was because of the politics of the time and the fact that it was Hungary. It was not super easy to get an American patent or to bring it over and market it here in the West. So it was pretty much a Hungarian local sensation for its early, like probably first year. Yeah, he had like a Hungarian toy manufacturer
Starting point is 00:07:58 make like 10,000 of them, but he wasn't happy with them. So he cut the runoff at 5,000. So there were 5,000 of these things floating around Budapest and maybe Hungary in general. And it was just total serendipity that there was a guy named T-Boar Loxy. And I'm quite sure that's not exactly how you say his last name, but that's how it's spelled.
Starting point is 00:08:17 It's probably like Lucia or something like that. But T-Boar, I just love that name. It's a great name. He was an entrepreneur who had left Hungary and moved to Austria. So he had really developed a taste for capitalism. Well, he happened to be visiting back home in Budapest when he was at a restaurant and he noticed a waiter
Starting point is 00:08:37 playing with the Beavish Kotska, the Magic Cube. And he said, you there, what is that? And he said, well, it's the Beavish Kotska. How about I sell it to you for a dollar? And I believe he bought that for a dollar, played around with it for a minute and was like, this could be big. So he found out who invented it
Starting point is 00:08:57 and he scheduled a meeting with Erno Rubik. Yeah, and he would say later on that Erno Rubik had a lot to do with why he decided to get into business with him. Here's his quote. He said, when Rubik first walked into the room, I felt like giving him some money. He looked like a beggar.
Starting point is 00:09:14 He was terribly dressed. You gotta remember, this guy's a professor, so they're not known for their sharp attire. Right. He was terribly dressed and he had a cheap Hungarian cigarette hanging out of his mouth. But I knew I had a genius on my hands and I told him, we could sell millions.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Yeah. And he was right. Oh man, was he ever right? He understated it actually. The T-Boar, I'm just gonna call him T-Boar, he took this magic cube and he started going to toy fairs. And I think he struck out at a few of them, but he really hit it out of the park
Starting point is 00:09:52 at the Nuremberg Toy Fair when he met a toy expert who had connections with Ideal Toy Company. You remember Ideal back in the day? I think I do, for sure. I'm pretty sure they made that, oh, what was the Daredevil's name? Evil Canevil.
Starting point is 00:10:12 I think they made the Evil Canevil Stunt Bike. You know what's funny is they make those now for other, they have, there's like an Incredibles Stunt Bike with a plastic girl. Oh really? And it's the same exact function we have one in our house and you load it up and crank it and there she goes. Is it the exact same mold they just put
Starting point is 00:10:33 like different paint on it or something like that? Cause I love knockoff toys, man. It's slightly different in its design, but it's clearly like the same exact toy. Do you remember that gallery of knockoff toys I made back when we used to blog? Those were crazy. I think it's still up somewhere on our stuff,
Starting point is 00:10:49 you should know. How excited we would get about gallery page views. Yeah, oh, we'd be like, holy cow, we're up to 70. And it's only been up for a week and a half. So funny. So at the Nuremberg Toy Fair, T-Boar runs into the guy from Ideal and they end up purchasing it.
Starting point is 00:11:08 They purchased the rights to this, the global rights and they basically sign up to create a million Rubik's Cubes. Yeah, also we should say at this Toy Fair, he did a pretty smart thing. Instead of buying a booth, he just came and worked the floor with Rubik's Cubes and got this ground buzz going by walking around and giving these things to people.
Starting point is 00:11:30 And that's genius, for something like this, that's the perfect way to pique someone's curiosity is not to have some flashy spinning giant Rubik's Cube, is to actually get it in the hands of people walking around the floor. Right, especially if you say, I'm T-Boar, let's party. I bet he wanted to call it T-Boar's Cube, it's a pretty good name.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Probably did, although he was smart because remember originally it was called the Magic Cube. At some point, if it wasn't T-Boar, it was Ideal who said, we're gonna rename this the Rubik's Cube. And I'm sure Erno Rubik was like, oh, well, okay, I guess if you insist. I wonder if he was into it or not, or if he pushed for it or if he was like,
Starting point is 00:12:10 I'm not really into that, but if you think it'll sell Cubes. That's what I'm guessing he probably did. I don't think he was gonna stand in the way of it, but he was not vying for it by any means. That's my impression, but I'm just totally making that up. But I have the same impression, which means that if you put our two impressions together,
Starting point is 00:12:27 it equals fact. So Ideal sells 100 million Rubik's Cubes in the first two years in 1981. They just signed up to sell one million. They sold 100 million in two years. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure they had problems keeping up with production. Some of the accolades in 80 and 81
Starting point is 00:12:49 it won the UK's Toy of the Year Award, two years running. In 82, there were five books about solving it on the New York Times bestseller list, one of which I owned. I owned the classic, The Simple Solution to the Rubik's Cube by James G. Norse. Cute. He was a chemistry student at Stanford
Starting point is 00:13:08 and get this dude. This book was the number one bestselling book of 1981 period. Oh my God. He sold 6.7 million books and it is still the fasting selling book in the history of Bantam books. Is that right? Can you believe that?
Starting point is 00:13:26 Out of all the books that year, that was the number one. I can because that really kind of underscores just how nuts, not just America, the world went for Rubik's Cube that the number one selling book was a book about solving the toy. That was it. Yeah, they had sold 500 million of them
Starting point is 00:13:46 by the time 1986 rolled around. So talking about the books though for another second, at one point, the number one, two and four positions on the New York Times bestseller list were all Rubik's Cube solution books. Three was probably Stephen King or something. Probably. And one of those books was written by a 12 year old
Starting point is 00:14:03 named Patrick Bossert called You Can Do the Cube, which is pretty adorable if you think about it. And Christian Slater made a movie called Gleaming the Cube. One of my all time favorites. Which had nothing to do with Rubik's Cubes as it turns out. No, it's about skateboarding. That's right. So there's just a craze going on around the world.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Like everyone is into the Rubik's Cube. Everyone's buying one. They sold like, I've seen anywhere from 350 million. The highest I've seen is 600 million. They sold a ton of these things. Hundreds and hundreds of millions of them around the world. But those were the official ones too. There were plenty of knockoffs.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Sure. There was books on the New York Times bestseller list about this. It was featured in Time, Scientific American, New Scientist. There was a paper that was printed in the New England Journal of Medicine. They talked about Cubist's thumb, which is a real thing.
Starting point is 00:14:59 It's a type of tendonitis in your thumb that you get in your non-dominant hand because that's the hand that you use to stabilize the Rubik's Cube. And so the edge of the cube pressing into the heel of your thumb where it meets the rest of your thumb, that could create tendonitis for people who were staying up for days on end,
Starting point is 00:15:23 just playing with this thing, trying to beat this puzzle. There was a craze like no other. I say we take a break and we come back and we talk about Mr. Rubik or maybe he's a doctor. I'm going to call him Dr. Rubik. Okay. And how he created the mechanics of this puzzle.
Starting point is 00:15:41 ["Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy"] On the podcast, Hey Dude, the 90s called David Lasher and Christine Taylor, stars of the cult classic show, Hey Dude, bring you back to the days of slip dresses and choker necklaces. We're going to use Hey Dude as our jumping off point, but we are going to unpack and dive back
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Starting point is 00:18:15 I would, let's call him Professor Rubik because he was definitely an architecture professor and a math genius. Surely though, I'm with you, he's gotta be a doctor. All right, Professor Dr. Rubik supposedly was not even trying to create this puzzle in 1974 when he first started out. As legend has it, he was trying to create a mathematical model
Starting point is 00:18:34 for a 3D design class, which makes sense considering his job. Other people say, no, he was just really kind of a guy that liked to tinker. He was fascinated by geometry and shapes. And he was trying to just solve a problem of mechanics in three dimensions. But according to the toy hall of fame,
Starting point is 00:18:53 he was very much trying to invent a puzzle. And that may just be folklore. Yeah, he knew what he wanted. He wanted to make this 3 by 3 cube that was made up of smaller cubes that could all like interact and twist around. Like he had the idea for the Rubik's cube, which was step one. But step two was a doozy.
Starting point is 00:19:12 And that was figuring out how to invent a mechanical solution to make this thing work the way he wanted it to. And apparently he was, there was a pretty good article, Mental Floss by a guy named Noah Davis, who recounted that one day Rubik was walking down the Danube, alongside the Danube in Budapest and looked down and noticed that there was just a pile of nice polished rounded river rocks and thought,
Starting point is 00:19:42 I've got it. I've been thinking about a cube. Everything's gotta be a cube. But what if I added a sphere to the mix too? And that these things rotated around a sphere that would give the freedom of motion that I need to make this thing work. And that was the solution to the puzzle as it were.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Yeah, I mean, if you're like me and probably lots of other kids in the early 80s, you took your Rubik's cube apart at some point. Did you? I never saw one in so I watched a video on this, yeah. Oh yeah, I got a screwdriver out in pretty short order and popped those things apart. And it's kind of cool when you take all those cubies out,
Starting point is 00:20:20 you get down to the center and those three axes and they have each one is tipped with two opposing center cubies. It's kind of cool looking and then it makes sense how all these things fit together and how it works. Yeah, another way to think about it is just think about like a sphere, a ball, and then you've got six arms sticking out
Starting point is 00:20:39 at right angles from it so that it forms a three-dimensional plus sign. And then at the end of each one of these arms is a cube, a colored cube. And that's the skeleton of the thing. And then what Erno Rubik figured out was that that's all that needed to be attached to the center. You could make the other cubes attached
Starting point is 00:21:02 to those face cubes, the center cubes. Cubies. Cubies, you could make some cubes, cubies attached to those cubies and then other cubies attached to the other cubies and then they will all kind of rotate around each other but they're all really rotating on three different axes coming out of that sphere.
Starting point is 00:21:21 It's a gene, like this guy has gotten, like if he started a craze and is, you know, kind of viewed as this great inventor for the toy, like math, physics, architecture, in a number of different fields, he's viewed as- Mechanical engineering for sure. Yeah, he's viewed as just a god in some senses for cracking this problem
Starting point is 00:21:45 and creating this three-dimensional structure that actually works in reality that people can learn and study from. That's right. So he's figured out the mechanics of it all but it's still not a puzzle yet until he applies these colors. That's what makes it a puzzle because like we said at the beginning,
Starting point is 00:22:03 the idea is that you have all the colors on each side matching one another. He applies these colored stickers all over, mixes and twists it up a little bit and he's like, I've invented the cube. Then he's like, wait a minute. I don't know how to solve the puzzle. So he actually had built this thing,
Starting point is 00:22:21 stickered it up and looked at it, I imagine with some level of accomplishment and then realized the biggest probably, the hardest thing to do in this whole process still lay in front of him, which was, because there were no books out at this point, he invented it. So he had to figure out how to solve his own puzzle
Starting point is 00:22:42 and it took him a while. It took him a month from what I saw. Yeah, and I imagine he worked on this pretty much nonstop to figure this thing out. He did and he would like write down like the different moves, combination of moves, which now they're called algorithms. Sure.
Starting point is 00:23:00 It's just types of moves that if you do them in a specific sequence, we'll solve a specific jumbled Rubik's cube, right? That's right. So he wrote them down, he kind of kept track of it. And that was like the first time anyone had kind of applied analysis to this, but it would not be the last obviously,
Starting point is 00:23:19 as the New York Times bestseller shows. But the reason why it's so difficult to solve a Rubik's cube just by happenstance is that just the sheer number of possible configurations of the cube, right? Each face has nine cubies and there's six faces. So there's 54 cubies, but they all relate to one another. And so if you move one, that's one configuration.
Starting point is 00:23:48 If you move it another direction, that's another configuration and so on and so on. And so with these 54 cubies, Chuck, are you ready for this? Yes. The possible number of configurations is 43 quintillion, 252 quadrillion, 3 trillion, 274 billion, 489 million,
Starting point is 00:24:09 856,000 possible configurations of a Rubik's cube. Amazing. And one of them, one is the right one where all six faces are all the same color cubies. Just one. So just doing it accidentally, your chances are one in about 43 trillion that you're gonna stumble upon that right combination.
Starting point is 00:24:32 That's right. Which is pretty amazing. Don't you think? Yes. And by the way, I think I said in there 54, there's 20 cubes. I believe there's 54 faces. Yeah, I mean, that's the deal.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Each cubie has three sides or two sides, depending on if it's a corner or an edge, or one if it's in the center. Right. So it's kind of confusing. But nine times six, so nine squares or nine different colored squares times six faces is 54, I think.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Yeah, 54 faces, 20 something cubies. This is how good at math we are. Man, it's really, because it's so funny because it's such a simple little thing, but once you start really breaking it down, you're like, we could make this super confusing if we tried hard. For sure.
Starting point is 00:25:21 But what people have figured out is that they're like, you may have like a one in 43 quintillion chance of stumbling across the right configuration by accident. But what people have figured out is that there are a combination of moves, like front, right, up, up twice, and then down. That's an algorithm. And if you apply that to a certain kind of scramble,
Starting point is 00:25:45 the certain configuration of a scrambled Rubik's cube, it will bring it back to solved. And so people have spent a lot of time developing algorithms. And that's what Erno Rubik was originally doing when he was like, oh, if I do this, this, and this, it will make it solved. And he wrote that down. That's what's called an algorithm.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Yeah, and I remember in the book, each book had their own little shorthand, I guess. But I remember the one that I had, it definitely had the algorithms all spelled out with shorthand for what each move was called. So it would sort of look like a math problem made out of letters. Right, like I saw a U for up and D for down,
Starting point is 00:26:22 which makes a lot of sense. But then also, you can move something to the right, you can twist one of the rows of cubes to the right, but you can also twist it to the left too. So I saw an apostrophe after like L apostrophe would be counterclockwise left. And then you can add a number too. So you do that twice,
Starting point is 00:26:42 which is really 180 degree counterclockwise turn. So interesting. It really is kind of interesting. Like at first, you know, when I first went over this article the first time, just taking it in, I was like, oh, this is pretty neat. But the Rubik's cube I found has many, many layers to it. And you can really keep going deeply into it
Starting point is 00:27:02 well beyond just playing with the cube and trying to solve it. Like there's a lot of math involved. There's a lot of physics and mechanics involved. I mean, you can get sucked into it as you like, buddy. Just try not to go insane like Erno Rubik did. He did not. When he set that building on fire full of Rubik's cubes.
Starting point is 00:27:24 He, it's interesting though, how big of a hit this became sort of it flew in the face of a lot of like sort of rules of the toy industry in that it didn't make sounds. It didn't have interchangeable parts. It didn't have things that you could sell along with it. Like, you know, clothing, you couldn't, I guess you could dress your little Rubik's cube
Starting point is 00:27:45 but then you have a special relationship with it, I guess so. Right, you could dress it up and be like, I'm Ruby. It didn't have batteries. It was never like, well, I guess it appeared on a TV show. Was that a TV show? Yeah, it was a Saturday morning cartoon that came on right before Pac-Man,
Starting point is 00:28:02 which was honestly one of the all-time great cartoons ever. Yeah, it just, it wasn't marketable though, like you would think a toy would be. The reason that it appealed and endured is because it is a real challenge and you get a real sense of reward once you've done it. Right. And that really hooks people.
Starting point is 00:28:21 It really does hook people. And again, there's like not, there's no shame in going and looking up algorithms to solve Rubik's cubes, like just processes. And in fact, if you start doing any kind of research on Rubik's cubes, you'll find like, there's actually specific methods of attack that people suggest for beginners to start with.
Starting point is 00:28:43 There's one called the White Cross method. Classic. Which is entails eating a handful of White Cross gas station speed. Just staying up and staying up for four days until you get done. No. It's actually, you start with the edge pieces
Starting point is 00:28:57 and then you move to the corner pieces, putting them all in place and then you go on from there, starting with the white face of the cube. That's right. And this toy was a big hit anyway, but it has endured not because of stocking stuffers or nostalgia, but it has endured all these years later because of competition.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Yeah. So let's take a break now and we'll talk about speed cubing right after this. Well, now when you're on the road driving in your truck, why not learn a thing or two from Josh and Chuck. It's stuff you should know. Stuff you should know. All right.
Starting point is 00:29:41 On the podcast, Hey Dude, the 90s called David Lasher and Christine Taylor, stars of the cult classic show, Hey Dude, bring you back to the days of slip dresses and choker necklaces. We're gonna use Hey Dude as our jumping off point, but we are going to unpack and dive back into the decade of the 90s. We lived it and now we're calling on all of our friends
Starting point is 00:30:02 to come back and relive it. It's a podcast packed with interviews, co-stars, friends and non-stop references to the best decade ever. Do you remember going to Blockbuster? Do you remember Nintendo 64? Do you remember getting Frosted Tips? Was that a cereal?
Starting point is 00:30:17 No, it was hair. Do you remember AOL Instant Messenger and the dial-up sound like poltergeist? So leave a code on your best friend's beeper because you'll want to be there when the nostalgia starts flowing. Each episode will rival the feeling of taking out the cartridge from your Game Boy,
Starting point is 00:30:30 blowing on it and popping it back in as we take you back to the 90s. Listen to Hey Dude, the 90s called on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Lance Bass, host of the new iHeart podcast, Frosted Tips with Lance Bass. The hardest thing can be knowing
Starting point is 00:30:47 who to turn to when questions arise or times get tough or you're at the end of the road. Ah, okay, I see what you're doing. Do you ever think to yourself, what advice would Lance Bass and my favorite boy bands give me in this situation? If you do, you've come to the right place because I'm here to help.
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Starting point is 00:32:09 were holding national championships for solving Rubik's Cubes as fast as you possibly could. It's called speed cubing. Yes, and then a year after that, they all got together, all the champions of the countries for the very first Rubik's Cube World Championship in Budapest, which is kind of cool. And that's what has kept people going for so long
Starting point is 00:32:30 because there's people are still trying to beat these records. I saw a kid and it's kind of hard to tell what the top times, because they list the top times in these competitions, but I saw a kid on YouTube do it in like six seconds or four or five seconds. I saw one do it in 3.47. Yeah, I don't know how it's officially judged, though. There's a timer and there's one of those mats
Starting point is 00:33:00 that you keep your hands on. Well, no, I get that. But why does it say that those aren't world records then? I don't know, that's what I saw was the world record was in 2018, and it was 3.47 seconds by Yuxiang Du, sorry, of China. See, I've seen other things listed. I just don't know if there's like the bodies
Starting point is 00:33:21 aren't speaking to one another or what. Maybe that was a non-championship time. Like a non-sanctioned event. Or even maybe it was a qualifier or something like that, so it doesn't count as the world record unless you get whatever time is done at the world championship. That's considered the world record, who knows?
Starting point is 00:33:44 It's crazy to see how fast these kids, and it's usually kids that win, I guess with their little nimble fingers and brain sponges. It's crazy how fast they're doing it. It doesn't look real. It looks like some sort of weird faked video. Yeah, and here's the other thing too.
Starting point is 00:34:00 I'm glad you mentioned brain sponges because it is like an intellectual pursuit. Like from the beginning of this toys release in 1980, like they went a different route. Like you're saying it doesn't require batteries. It was, it doesn't make a noise or anything like that. So they went a different route in advertising it. And so this is an intelligent game.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Like, sure, Isaac Newton discovered gravity, but could he solve a Rubik's Cube? So they really kind of play that up and it's true because these kids who are solving or people who are solving Rubik's Cubes super fast, it's not just like luck or their fingers are just moving for them. They have memorized hundreds,
Starting point is 00:34:40 if not thousands of these algorithms and have gotten to the point where they can look at a cube and figure out which algorithm is going to solve it the fastest. And then when the time starts, they can also move their fingers really, really quick. And that's how they're getting these amazing times. It's not just speed and dexterity.
Starting point is 00:34:58 It's also knowing what algorithm is going to work best. Yeah, for sure. It died out pretty quickly, like most fad toys. Once you sell a lot of these, you don't need another one unless you break yours or something. So it's kind of one of those things where, and which is again why it flew in the face of the toy industry
Starting point is 00:35:19 because they couldn't sell ancillary products alongside it. But it died out pretty quickly. And the championship in 1982 was the last one for about 20 years until the internet comes along. And all of a sudden there are people posting faster times than ever before than 20 years earlier. And in 2003, in Canada, there was a speedcuber named Dan Gosby who organized a competition in Toronto.
Starting point is 00:35:48 And this is where they're getting it down to like 20 seconds and they have different categories, like blindfolded, fewest moves, one handed. Feet. Feet. Feet, dude, last year. Someone did it in 23 seconds by foot, which was about the quickest time by hand at the first competition. Yes, and it took them longer to figure out
Starting point is 00:36:09 that they had solved it than it did to actually solve it because they had to use a stick to turn the Rubik's Cube over because they had used their feet to solve it. And I think when you participate... It didn't pay off as well as I thought it would. Sounds all right, you get 15 seconds to look at the Cube over. They are all started, like the Cubes are all started the same with like a computer generated random 25 move scramble.
Starting point is 00:36:35 It's just fair. You get that 15 seconds, you check it out, you set it on your mat and then you go. And it's just like I said, it's amazing to see these things done in like sub four seconds. Yeah, because their hands actually do kind of blur. Like you can't really follow where their hands are at any given time.
Starting point is 00:36:53 They barely touch the Rubik's Cube. And they're using, to be fair, they're using specialized speed Cubes. They're not just using like off the shelf Rubik's Cubes. Yeah, we'll talk about those. Or should we just go ahead and talk about them? It's amazing. Sure, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:06 So people go to the trouble of getting a speed Cube. It's like, you know, you can get one for, you can get a good one from what I understand for about 70, 75 bucks. And these things are literally well oiled machines that are just super fast. Some of them use magnets. So that you can tell when they're snapped into place
Starting point is 00:37:25 and they move a lot more easily and quickly there. You can just look at it and be like, that's a high end Rubik's Cube right there. Yeah, like you can pay to get your Cube serviced and checked out at Speed Cube Shop. So someone will take it apart, a technician, and they will look at each of those little Cubes for defects. And like, has it got a little bump here
Starting point is 00:37:48 that will slow it down? They'll smooth that out. Like you said, sometimes they use magnets. And one of the reasons for the magnets is it creates that snap when a turn is completed. Cause if you want to move these things really fast, you don't want it to be, you know, even if it's an eighth of an inch out of whack,
Starting point is 00:38:06 you're not going to be able to turn it the other way. So you want it to snap and lock into place. You know, you want, it's just amazing how engineered these things have become within these Speed Cubing competitions. Right, well, I mean, just to keep up, you've got to get yourself a Speed Cube. If you showed up like to an actual competition
Starting point is 00:38:27 with just a regular Rubik's Cube, I don't know if you'd be laughed out of the place, but they would certainly feel bad for you. You know what they should do is like, cause you know, I remember them loosening up really well and getting faster just cause you played with it more. Instead of giving everyone Speed Cubes and trying to get this ultra Red Bull record,
Starting point is 00:38:49 which they sponsor the events now, by the way, they should give everyone like out of the package, make it as hard as possible. I agree. I think that there would be some, you know, preteens who are really high strung that would cry if they were confronted with that challenge. If they had to put their Speed Cube down.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Yeah, it'd be like, this is not fair. No one prepared me in my life for this. I did mention Red Bull because it was kind of controversial for many years, the Rubik's World Championships were co-hosted by the World Cube Association with the support of the brand, but then clearly some money changed hands. A couple of years ago, that was the Red Bull,
Starting point is 00:39:31 Rubik's Cube World Championship, you know, Red Bull got involved, the brand Rubik got involved, which means there was money changing hands. You're really fascinated with that money changing hands, aren't you? Well, I mean, sure, because it was, I think everyone saw it as for what it was, which was all of a sudden there's a corporate sponsor
Starting point is 00:39:47 attached to it. Yeah, and that is like a pretty important point because like there was already a World Championship and it was like a grassroots organization that had grown up since 2003 and they were doing really well and then all of a sudden 15 years later, Red Bull comes along attached to the Rubik's brand
Starting point is 00:40:04 and is like out of the way nerds, this is the real one. And so apparently it was a, there was a lot of controversy like you were saying, but now they kind of coexist and the Red Bull Rubik's sponsored one changed their name from World Championship to World Cup so that they don't step on each other's feet at all. But if you think about it, that's a pretty big win
Starting point is 00:40:24 for this grassroots World Cubing Association to be able to keep their original name and not have to change their name, you know? For sure. Hats off to them. Hats off indeed. So one of the things that I said about the Rubik's Cube Chuck is that it's got a lot of layers to it
Starting point is 00:40:46 and there's a lot of surprising math involved. Specifically, there's a kind of algebra called group theory. And one of the things that has long kind of fascinated mathematicians is that there is somewhere in there a number of moves. There's an algorithm that has, or there's a number of moves associated
Starting point is 00:41:09 with any number of algorithms. Man, I'm making this way harder than it actually is. Where it represents the maximum number of moves you would need to use to solve any configuration, any of the 43 quintillion configurations of a Rubik's Cube. And some people figured out that this number must exist. And brother, they got obsessed with it from 1981 to 2010. Some people almost set a building
Starting point is 00:41:36 full of Rubik's Cubes on fire. Yeah, I mean, they really researched this stuff to the point where like computer scientists are looking into this. There was a guy named Thomas Rakiki who got the upper limit down to 22 moves. And this is like Google is helping them out with the processing power.
Starting point is 00:41:57 So they call it God's algorithm. I mean, in the case of Rubik's Cube, they got down to 20 is where they landed, right? Yeah. But God's algorithm can be used for any puzzle really. You know, and that is, and why do they call it God's algorithm? It's how God would solve the puzzle.
Starting point is 00:42:17 So from what I saw, it's God's number is that the maximum number of moves that God would require to solve any configuration of the puzzle. Right. So they call it God's number. Got a little confusing in this article because it's a bit of a brain trick.
Starting point is 00:42:35 It's like the fewest moves, but it's a maximum number of moves. Right, right, exactly. It's hard to wrap your mind around. And then there's actually fewer moves for other algorithms. So I saw God's number is actually probably more like somewhere between 19 and 20.
Starting point is 00:42:53 But because there are algorithms out there that have to be done in no less than 20 moves, that's still God's number. And there's also the devil's number I saw too, which is the number of moves in an algorithm that it would take to go through all 43 plus quintillion configurations before you solve it, which I think that's a pretty good name for that one.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Yeah, now that's the one that they're on the trail of now. But they're done at 20, right? They are, but I think it's interesting that we're not entirely certain. It's not like, okay, this has been proven, it's done. The reason why they arrived at 20 is because they actually built an algorithm to try to solve these algorithms.
Starting point is 00:43:39 They taught an AI basically how to play Rubik's Cube, or they said, here's a Rubik's Cube, go teach yourself. And then they had it play just some mind-numbing number of different Rubik's Cubes hands, trying to solve it. And it kept coming up with 20. And so it came up with 20 enough times that they're like, well, our computer God has told us that 20 is God's number, so there you have it.
Starting point is 00:44:04 But no one, it wasn't proven, it wasn't solved. It was just like, this thing is so smart that we're just gonna go with 20. So pit someone still working on it then probably. I guess, but I think I get the impression that they have moved on to the devil's number. So as you would imagine with the toy of this caliber, there were bound to be other people saying they invented it
Starting point is 00:44:25 and patent battles would ensue. And of course, this was the case with the Rubik's Cube. In 1977, when Rubik got his Hungarian patent for the Magic Cube, there was another inventor named Larry Nichols, who had already patented something very similar in the US. Isn't that amazing? Yeah, this was in 1972, but his was for a two by two
Starting point is 00:44:47 cube, not a three by three by three. Still, same concept. Sure. And at first he was like, this is hilarious. I had the same idea and now it's become a national craze. It's kind of satisfying. And somebody said, do you have any idea how much money you are losing out on right now?
Starting point is 00:45:03 You should sue. He said, oh my gosh, you're right, I should sue. And I get the impression that either the company he worked for or the company he's sold the patent to really led the charge in suing for this patent infringement. But he had a pretty good case. I mean, he had invented it and patented it years before. It was just the number of cubes involved was smaller.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Yeah, I mean, there was another guy too, a guy named Frank Fox, I think in 74. He actually did the three by three by three, but he let his patent lapse, whereas Nichols did not. And those people like you were talking about that actually owned Nichols patent were called Moleculine Research Corporation. That sounds scary.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Yeah, and litigious. Yeah, they do. So I want to point out though, it's definitely worth saying outright, there is no evidence and I don't think anyone's ever leveled in accusation that Erno Rubik stole this idea. It was just arrived at independently and he was working behind the iron curtain at the time too.
Starting point is 00:46:05 So the chances of any exposure are pretty low. It was just some people kind of came up with the same idea at the same time and Erno Rubik's is the one that hit. That's right, in 1984, a federal district court ruled in favor of Moleculine, but then in 86, an appeals court overturned that, saying only that two by two by two Rubik's cube because they started making different variations.
Starting point is 00:46:30 They made a smaller one that they said infringed. In fact, I remember now, I had a little guy on a car key for a short time. Oh yeah, I remember that. If I'm not mistaken. But then in 1989, another appeals court upheld the previous appeals court decision. I should say, I read an article by that guy,
Starting point is 00:46:48 Nichols, who had the original patent and they were like, I think they were suing for like 50 million or something. Were you satisfied with the outcome? He said, yeah, I was satisfied. He's like, I got enough to put both of my kids through Harvard, so I'm pretty happy with that. Like he invented this thing that he was able to send his kid through Harvard with, you know?
Starting point is 00:47:10 Yeah, that's always interesting when someone wins something like that, but it wasn't like stolen from him. Right, it was just, he had the patent first and they agreed, you know what's even crazier that makes that story just absolutely insane. He had approached ideal toys with that and they had not bought it.
Starting point is 00:47:29 And then they went on years later to buy the, you know, Rubik version. Yeah, they put out a bunch of difference. They made big ones, like the tiny ones I just talked about. I remember I had a snake. I did too, and I had no idea what to do with that. I just played with it like it was a snake. I did the same thing.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Yeah. I just twisted it around and stuff. I still don't know what you were supposed to do with that thing. I think eventually the snake would be put together in some sort of a three-dimensional octagon or something, if I remember. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Or hexagon. Yeah, I was way off. But yeah, I didn't know how to, I didn't even try to learn. I just kind of played with it. I taught mine to drink water. Mine drinks from a cup. That was very Ralph Wiggum.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Yeah. Erno Rubik is still alive and well. He lives in Hungary. Still teaches architecture. I imagine has a boatload of money, so he's founded some multiple foundations for inventors. That's very cool. Yeah, he has a boatload of money,
Starting point is 00:48:28 so much so that his success story is considered by some to have been the thing that opened the gates to capitalism in Hungary. Amazing. They also made him the president of the Hungarian Engineering Academy. And he still, I think, shows up once in a while to the world championships.
Starting point is 00:48:49 And maybe the World Cup, I don't know. He doesn't seem like a very controversial type. No, seems like a good guy. And if you really want to go crazy, if you've solved a ton of Rubik's cubes, but this has kind of made you nostalgic to try something harder, they make a 13 by 13 by 13 Rubik's cube.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Oh, wow. And there's something else called the Skube, S-K-E-W-B. And it is, I don't even know what you're supposed to do with it. It's like the snake times a trillion to me. That's right. And there's also a movie called Cube, which is like, saw with math.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Oh, I saw that, yeah, yeah. Has nothing to do with Rubik's cubes. And there's the pursuit of happiness where Will Smith gets a job as a stockbroker because somebody sees him solve a Rubik's cube in something like two minutes or less. And apparently while he was promoting that movie, he solved one in less than a minute himself in real life.
Starting point is 00:49:44 You mean the movie, The Pursuit of Happiness? Yeah. Did they explain that in the movie? I'm sure, I never saw it. I just always called it Happiness. Did you ever see that one where he was like super depressed and his colleagues at work, like just gaslight him into thinking he's being visited by angels?
Starting point is 00:50:02 No, I didn't. Did you see the one where he went, he was from West Philadelphia and he went to live with his rich relatives? Yeah, I did. As a matter of fact, he dressed very colorfully. He was, I think in Bel Air. What was it Bel Air?
Starting point is 00:50:19 I think it was Santa Barbara. You're right. Okay. Well, if you want to know more about Will Smith, you can type his name into the search bar at HowStuffWorks.com. And since I said Will Smith, it's time for Listener Mail.
Starting point is 00:50:35 I've got a coconut tree correction. Okay. Hey guys, correction on something said during the episode, The Cult of the Coconut, when you guys talked about the Culpovrishka. First of all, it's not pronounced that way. It is pronounced Culpovrishka. Oh, we were way off.
Starting point is 00:50:58 All right. She says vrishka or vrishka, depending on transliteration, simply means tree in Sanskrit. Okay. Also always mispronounced by people in the West, by the way. Oh, well, I don't feel that bad. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Correct pronunciation is soundskrut. No, she's saying Sanskrit is always mispronounced. Oh, oh, I see. So it's sanskrut. Soundskrut. That sounds like a French person saying it. As best I can convey is what she says. Wow, okay.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Yeah, I've always said sanskrut. This person is a real, really into words, though, and very smart. Second, the coconut tree is just one of the trees considered a, how do you pronounce it again? Culpovrishka. There you go, you nailed it. Not because it is all you need to survive, though,
Starting point is 00:51:50 but because every single part of the coconut tree is useful to humans. Oh, yeah. The bark, the leaves, the fibers, and of course the coconuts in their entirety. This concept is tied closely with why Indians culturally revere certain animals, e.g. cow, and plants and trees, e.g. banyan and coconut.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Okay. I've noticed on the podcast how you too often go out of your way to correctly pronounce words or names in foreign languages like German. We thought we were. Which is something I appreciate as a bi-cultural, pentalingual individual. Perhaps you could expand your efforts to include
Starting point is 00:52:25 not just Western languages, but Eastern languages too. After all, sanskrut belongs to the same language group as German. If you think about it, I think it would be true to the spirit of your show, guys. Keep up the good work. And that is from Ruta, R-U-T-A. Did Ruta say, did she sign off with later Lemos?
Starting point is 00:52:45 No. Thanks a lot, Ruta. Yeah, it's not like we're like, oh, we'll only go to the trouble of pronouncing something in German or French, which by the way, we don't very often, and we thought we were pronouncing it correctly in the Eastern languages.
Starting point is 00:52:59 So sorry, Ruta. I didn't know what sanskrut. I had no idea. Not just us, Chuck. Like a million people just learned that. Yeah. Close to a million. I agree.
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