Stuff You Should Know - What's the deal with Bond, James Bond?

Episode Date: July 15, 2010

James Bond, the most infamous secret agent ever to grace the silver screen, originated in the pages of British author Ian Fleming's novels. Amateur agents Josh and Chuck uncover all sorts of Bond trivia in this action-packed episode. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Brought to you by the reinvented 2012 Camry. It's ready. Are you? Welcome to stuff you should know from house stuff works calm Hey, and welcome to the podcast I'm Josh Clark. Hi with me is Charles W. Chuck Bryant Bryant Charles Bryant. How is it going Chuck? It's an odd way to introduce yourself, don't you think? Not if you're a super spy. Are you a super spy? Actually, I wouldn't say James Bond is even a spy Secret service. Is that a spy really? No, he was an assassin and yeah, just general plot disruptor I would say he was a blunt instrument of the crown

Yeah, if you wanted the job done and you couldn't if you didn't have time to worry about, you know, the politics or You know diplomacy that kind of thing You sent James Bond. Yeah, get JB on the phone 007. Yeah, he'll he'll take care of business like Elvis You could call him on his car phone long before any car had a phone. Yeah, all right. Oh, yeah He was always predating technology. Yeah, as a matter of fact, there's a James Bond theory of entrepreneurial innovation I believe that and from Russia with love 1963 he talked. I Can't remember who he talked to but he was in his car using the phone

Yeah, that was in his car and audiences went nuts for it. Oh, yeah, they were like, oh my god He's on the telephone right in a car, but that's what they sounded like in England though. Oh, yeah Well, sure that there's possibly Ghana, right? So Josh, where do we start here? We can't we can't not start with Ian Fleming Ian Fleming So we got a start. Let's do it. No, that was there was a colon after that. Oh I mean colon was as everyone knows and and if you didn't you need to get out from under your rock that you reside In right now the creator of James Bond right in novel form

He was also originally a journalist and a stockbroker Yeah, and World War two starts to come around and he joins the Naval Naval volunteer Royal Navy Royal Navy And he was actually chucked. Did you know assigned as a spy himself in Washington, DC? Yeah, sort of a spy you could call it he He was in intelligence and he would occasionally have he was an administrative guy But sometimes they would send him out to do fieldwork where he would take secret pictures of documents just like in the movies Do you know who was assigned to his spy unit?

James Bond Yeah, no, no the guy who is the inspiration for James Bond. Yeah name was William Stevenson aka Intrepid right? Yeah, one of many inspirations, right? But in night in an interview in the Times in 1962 Fleming said, you know James Bond is this romanticized version of a spy Bill Stevenson is the real thing right well romanized version of himself To an extent sure another member of that spy ring was a guy named Raul doll who wrote James and the giant peach and Charlie in the chocolate factory. Yeah and a bunch of body books, right? He also had the non-children's books that were a little racier. Yes, not many people know that so Chuck

Let's talk a little bit more about Ian Fleming. We'll give it to us buddy. Yeah I mean he like I said he was he sort of James based James Bond on Kind of I think who he wanted to be he was a playboy He was an island hopper an adventurer an adventurer a skier. He dove with Jacques Cousteau and You know snow skied from the tops of mountains in Switzerland And had a place in Jamaica where he actually wrote all these books, right? He he named the place Goldeneye and every year he would go to Jamaica and write a book and I just want to dig him up and throttle him for that because I mean

What a what a life. Yeah, you know, yeah, it's time for me to go to my estate in Jamaica and Write a book that's going to just make me millions more yeah, which he did and He reportedly picked the name James Bond because he wanted the most boring name he could find For his super secret agent. I think he didn't want the name to compete with the actual character Like why bother giving him some fancy names. Just name him James Bond and have him kick butt, right? You know what the opposite of that is? Hexaw Jim Duggan. Yeah

You should have named him that yeah, well then it would have competed with the character Duggan Hexaw Jim Duggan I could hear that So yeah, he wrote see the articles says 13 novels Well, he wrote 13 books. I got 14. What's the 14th? Well, I've got 12 novels plus two short story collections, right for your eyes only uh-huh and Octopussy and the Living Daylights was another collection, right? So it seems like it'd be easier to find this out, but I literally saw two different sets of information Huh, so are we gonna go with 14 because you are quite the sniffer. Let's let's go with 14 total

Okay, 12 novels. All right, but he he wrote I Think he wrote the novels first, maybe Or did he write the short story books like in between? Yeah, they were they were in between they were toward the end Okay, but she's getting fat and lazy in Jamaica. Yeah interestingly though, or maybe it's not that interesting They made the movies way out of order. Yeah, they did the Doctor know was the first film, but that was the sixth novel, right? But did you know that they originally? The people who made the official Bond movies originally wanted to make Thunderball Thunderball it was a story that Ian Fleming came up with with another guy who?

Who wanted the rights to make a movie out of it? Oh really that fell through but Ian Fleming went ahead and wrote the story anyway That they come up with as Thunderball the guy sued his pants off and actually gained custody gained the rights to the book Thunderball which tied it up and Made them opt for doctor no to go first instead There was a lot of litigation over the years in the Bond franchise. Yes, there was I guess when you have a franchise that long and That vast there's going to be people suing people over something well plus it's legendary He's a legendary character and you know he's made a lot of money for a lot of people absolutely The other interesting thing I thought just before we move on was that moon raker was written in 1955

That was the third novel that is insightful and of course there wasn't a space shuttle like they they changed the setting and all that stuff But it did involve like a nuclear weapon so you know kind of odd and Man of the Golden Gun, which was the Roger Moore's Second film was the final novel and it was released after his death Huh, so it was way out of order and in that one. He predicted Hervé Vieuchet, which nobody saw come in except Ian Fleming Yeah, right. Yeah, it's weird. Let's talk about James Bond a little bit. Okay, the character James Bond

So it turns out James Bond had a Scottish father Which it didn't originally now that came about because of Sean Connery Yeah, Ian Fleming was not a big fan of Sean Connery At first yeah first and then Sean Connery is like check this out and he made one peck go up while the other went down Yeah, a bunch of times and Ian Fleming just like clapped and squealed and that was that right, right? he was a big fan and he said you know what you are James Bond and He actually went back and changed James Bond's history Yeah

To kind of match Sean Connery a little bit because he came to see like this guy is Bond, right? Yeah, so he gave James Bond a Scottish father Andrew and a Swiss mother Monique Delacroix and nice and they both died mountain climbing, right? Yes, when little James was 11 years old and he went to the orphanage and he went to an orphanage He was supposedly born on November 11th 1920 But there are different accounts of his birthday and when he was born and clearly when you have a franchise with Daniel Craig playing him in 2008 mm-hmm. He can't be born in 1920 Yeah, because body the exhibition wasn't showing in in Miami in like 1958 or anything

So, uh, yeah, there's a sliding scale there obviously to make it viable But um, James much like his uh author namesake Ian Fleming not namesake Making James Bond much like the author Ian Fleming was um Went to the Royal Navy in World War II rose to the rank of commander. Yes after the war That's when he entered the SIS Known as mi6 right which is the sixth branch of the military intelligence directorate You got that buddy, right and his first two assignments chuck. Yeah, we're two taps

Aren't they assassinations right off the bat? So he that's apparently you have to kill two people to get a double o status Which is the license to kill and he got them like you say right off the bat Yeah, and he was the seventh dude to get him. So that's where double o seven comes from right the seventh agent Let's shouldn't say dude Because there were were there female agents? Oh, yeah, there were female agents. Okay I'm pretty sure

Oh, and we should probably take the time here to explain I like James Bond I know that you like James Bond movies too. Uh, is this the disclaimer? Yeah, we're gonna get killed here. Um, we are not Members of James Bond fandom. I would say Yeah, right. I mean, I've seen all the movies, but no, I haven't studied the books. I've never read any of the books I don't think I've seen all the movies and um, but I do like them In a very recreational manner. So that being said We are not going to get every single thing right here

Right if we are going to walk right past information sure that we just don't know exists Yeah, so in a very friendly manner if there is anything that you have to say that can round this podcast out even further The more we love knowing new things. That's so please let us know. I guess is what we're saying, right? Oh, they'll let us know They will except for the like three dudes that just turned it off and went well They have no business even attempting this right and then they go give us a one star rating on it So back to bond he um, as we all know as a sharp dresser and he loves fast cars He loves his martini shaking that stirred

He loves women Yeah, and do you know if you shake a martini instead of stirring it you pretty much ruin it? I disagree. I shake all my martinis Dude, how does it ruin it? It um feathers it I think what does that mean? It means it's screwed up. What does that mean? I like a good dirty martini myself. Oh, you like I'm dirty. Oh, yeah Jared said word. I like my martini. He's so Light it's basically it's a vodka rock

So you just like the vermouth bottle just wave near the glass pretty much I like just a little vermouth little olive juice, but no olive no olive juice I'll put in all I'll put three olives in usually really All right, but then I eat them so fast that they have no time to taint the martini Well, that's why you're not a super spy. No, so josh james bond a couple of the other traits. We should just mention. He is a Martial artist He's a gifted man with his fists and feet Or if you're roger more a karate chop

Yeah, he loves the karate chop. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was a big deal in the 70s and he um Carried a famously carried a walter ppk handgun 32 caliber. Yeah, and that's the little guy. Have you ever seen him? Oh, yeah, they're small and I've played goal nine I played best game just played golden night. It is a great game. Yeah, and you know, they're bringing that back for we I've heard matt frederick of uh Coolest stuff on the planet told us that they are bringing that back because it's still sort of the standard for First-person shooters like 15 years on. Yeah, it's still a great game So they're bringing it back as is like completely as it was but with better graphics. That's gonna be fantastic for the we

Yeah, pretty exciting Back to the real life Yes of the fake life of james bond That's what we should have titled this podcast the real life of the fake life. Yeah Have you ever just thought to yourself? Why me? Why is life so unfair? What do other people see When they watch me walk by when I catch my reflection

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Uh, gold finger. You can't talk about bond without talking about gold finger. Yeah, he was he don't like him No, not really. That was a big gold finger guy. Well, yeah, he tried to laser the crotch of james bond Oh, yeah, that's right. Pretty hardcore. Yeah, it's like max Scorpio In that simpsons were oh, yeah, and we're ends up going to work for the supervillain Right. Yeah, he's like mr. Bond. I expect you to die and be a very cheap funeral Uh, our job was one of my favorite and he was one of goldman's henchmen The big I loved him too Asian guy with the bowler hat that he could cut like the head off a statue Yeah, his hat huge. Yeah, very big dude. Yeah

Uh jaws we grew up with Roger Moore. Uh-huh. So you can't not talk about jaws No, he was great too. He was in two of them, right? He was in uh, moon raker and The spy who loved me. I thought he might have been more than that, but he he definitely No, I looked it up. He was only in two two really kind of make quite an impression Yeah, he did he found the girlfriend in the in moon raker. I think right falls in love or something Yeah, the little like nerdy girl and then he pops up again in happy Gilmore Was he in that? Yeah, I didn't see that. Yeah, he was happy Gilmore's boss like on the construction site And he ends up becoming a fan and wow, did he have the teeth? No, he didn't have the teeth

Just for the movie, but uh, he was a big guy. Yes, uh Lately we've had more recent villains that I don't think the new villains compare personally No, they kind of come and go, you know, there's like uh in Casino Royale, yeah, I mean they're okay, but they're all who the villain was Yeah, that like they're all decent, but they're not like iconic characters like they used to be right like blow fell Yeah, well blow felled was the Sort of legendary

I don't know how many movies he was in but he was played by like telecivolas Donald Pleasance. Yeah, Donald Pleasance was my favorite version. He's good and max van Cida played him I think in never say never again. Maybe nice max van Cida. He's a class act Yeah, I was what did I watch the other day? Oh Oh shudder island. He's in that and I told I leaned over to Emily. I was like, you know I want to see max van Cida. I'll play like a kindly grandfather in a movie I don't think it's any time that dude pops up in the movie. You're like, oh, well, he's the evil doer right He's the villain or so you think until shudder island falls apart at the end

Don't ruin it So uh, yes, that was blow felled. He was the bald guy and he was the head of specter Which was the special executive for counterintelligence terrorism revenge and extortion Right. It's great A villainous title there. That's not only like a great name. That's your mission statement. Yeah, you know, I'll wrap up in the one Um, one of my favorites max zoren played by the great christopher walken. He was He was the dude I know you love that movie is one of the best bomb movies ever

But that had the worst bond woman ever grace jones. No tanya roberts I don't remember her. She was the bond girl. I don't remember She was the lady from the 70s show that was like one of the late charlie's angels replacements tanya roberts, yeah Yeah, who cares it was the 80s nobody was paying that much attention But it was a good song it was and christopher walken was in it grace jones was in it She was pretty scary in that. Yeah, she was excellent. Um, talk about a martial artist um

But max zoren is did you know he was the product of genetic experiment by nazis Walken was well not walking. Well, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't I don't remember that Yeah, and um, one of the unintended side effects was he was a complete psychopath I thought you're gonna say one of the side effects was his use of punctuation You are good, man Everybody does walk in I can't do a walk in Let's hear it My no, it's really just an altered uh john travolta. Why are you so weird?

Dude, that's great. Thank you. Of course chuck. There's 006 alec trevillian Yeah, what was he in that was one of the pierce brazen ones, wasn't it? Yeah, I think yeah, which I don't remember those I love pierce brazen like oh, he was good back that like he wasn't james bond earlier He's like, oh, yeah, you're gonna cast timothy dalton area. Well, I'll go beat remington steel jerks Yeah, and um, I'll try to get him again, right? I think so and he was committed to remington steel Yeah, just sort of like james bond for tv. Oh, so did he do remington steel first? Oh, yeah, he did remington steel Well, it goes back and forth. There was like timothy dalton was offered the role before roger moore. Did you know that?

No, I didn't when he was 21 years old Really? He was gonna replace shon connery. Well and dalton said I'm too young to play james bond and then he comes around years later Just like just like uh, broslin did okay But I am glad that pierce broslin went in. I just happened to think that those His period of movies were unfortunate Although they were pretty good. I didn't like them. I'm really happy with daniel craig stuff so far. Well, you know my Statement on that is that was the only direction they could take that franchise After the jason born movies, you couldn't have a guy like

Winking at the camera like roger moore and like slapstick sounds and uh sound effects You had to take him in a like a real bad Bad direction. Yes, and you mean like simo hiya bad. Yeah um So double a six alex trevillan He is I think he informs the character alex crycheck from x files. You think so, huh? Very nice josh. Thanks. All right So those are some of the villains clearly not all but um

We should also talk about some of the people that james bond had working on his side at mi6 Right, which we will call from here on out the superfluous characters. No, do they're great M q Yeah, and was the head of mi6 and there were several m's and was just a title And it was the one that's always frustrated with bond yet. He knows that he's the blunt instrument of choice You know pretty much in every movie, right? Q I you should say he or she for m. Uh true dame judy dench took over. Yeah. Oh man. She's doing a great job, too Uh q is the head of the q branch

Judy dench did you hear that chuck just said you were doing a great job. So keep it up. Keep it up dame judy dench dame dame dame. Yeah, she's a dame q is the head of the q branch mi6's research and development branch And q as you might know is the guy who in all the films gives james his gadgets There's always that great scene Where james goes into the laboratory and starts messing around with the gadgets and exasperates q Because he's burning something or he's firing a missile inside and he shouldn't be that's q right And he's uh now been replaced by his former assistant r

Right now is r john clees. Yeah, yeah, he's doing a good job But he's the new q. He just used to be r. Well because q died right lou ellen. Yes chuck That was the actor that played the original q. Is that right or the the roger more q that I loved right? Who else we got? Felix lighter who I like jack lord jeffrey right both played him. Oh, yeah agent. Uh-huh, and there's another guy named hayward Wade well is he cia? Yeah, I thought they said they didn't know if he was dea or cia He was around before the dea was was he yeah

Um, and then you've got I think jack wade is his name And he was actually played by a couple people including joe dom baker. Oh, yeah pierce brosnan ones. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, he had a couple of american counterparts. That's a good point and little known fact Joe dom baker was in uh, I can't remember the name of the movie, but it was one of the greatest mr. Science theater Three thousands. Oh really? Yeah bad movie Uh, and then of course we have to mention money penny who was uh m's personal assistant and money penny You always knew money penny because james would come in and flirt very much with her and I always got the sense that

If james were to ever settle down with anyone which he clearly won't it would have been money penny Sure, or at least he made her think that right every day with secretary's day when james bond was around He was always just so nice to him bringing her things from his travels Shock glasses and stuff right spoons. She had an extensive spoon collection refrigerator magnets Chuck josh, let's talk about the movie shall we? Yeah, sure. Let's talk about james bond on screen because it wasn't necessarily just relegated to the movies Oh, yeah, good point. So james bond first appears on Screen on the small screen on a cbs tv series called climax with an exclamation point

Really? Yeah, wow, uh, and he was first played by a guy named barry nelson And barry nelson you may recognize as mr. Ullman the manager of the overlook in kubricks the shining Who tells jack towards the ropes? That's the first guy to ever play james bond. Wow. Was he english? No, american. Yes cbs tv series. So we've had a scotsman It's quite a few englishmen an american and an australian And what? What do you mean australian? I mean someone from australia

Yeah, that was george lazamy was australian. Was it you know what happened to him? Well, he wasn't much of an actor. Well, it wasn't just that he After the success of his bond movie. I mean he played james bond and it was you know filmed and and produced and Released on her majesty secret service right um, he was like holy cow. I'm james bond And i'm going to buy a boat and sail around the world for a while And he came back and his star had already faded because he did one thing and that was that. Oh really? Yeah Yeah, he kind of blew it. He wasn't much of an actor either. It wasn't but it wasn't just that it was Yeah, it was a combination of those two things. He was a bad dude though

Like he he got the role apparently because he impressed in flaming because he uh Had a foe fight scene with a wrestler for his audition and he actually punched the guy Like got mad and punched him in flimmings like this is our dude. Wow Yeah, because flaming wrote the bond character as much darker Yeah, the the novel character for sure like roger more took it in a very Awful direction specific direction, you know, that was not the least bit like how uh ian flaming had written them You're the ultimate roger more biologist. I love roger more He's good in the saint and that's why I got the the role I think

Okay, the tv show the saint sure All right, so chuck let's get back to the beginning again. So we talked about barry nelson and On the big screen the first bond ever was shone connery right yeah Well, they did they did a pilot though on tv as well. That's the barry nelson one. Oh, it was called casino royale though No, right. It was based on casino royale. Oh, we're got you climax. Okay, which I think you know how they used to do like They would they would have the name of the series But then there'd there'd be like different like like wonderful world of disney Yeah, it was like the name of the series, but then there were different like documentaries or cartoons or whatever

Okay, I think it was like that and that flopped and it got you didn't know what they were doing with tv back in They had no idea. Yeah, so yeah, you're right. Dr. No is the first uh film in 1962 And there's been 22 in total No, yes, and we're waiting and that's official bond films because they Parodied him and other things woody allen played him for heaven's sake Yeah, yeah, and in the parody he did of casino royale. Yeah Um, there's also a an unofficial bond film with an official bond Right, let's hear it. Never say never again

Yeah, that was connery's that was also fraught with the uh, uh lawsuits, you know That was based on the thunderball lawsuit. Yeah, they they remade thunderball, right? And they named it never say never again because connery had said after 1971 that he'd never played bond again Yeah, because he played bond what for the first like six movies something like that Uh, one two three four five And then george lazanby then he came back And did diamonds or forever and then after that came roger moore Yes, and then roger moore had a pretty good run

So so shon connery stops playing bond george lazanby comes along does it once Leaves shon connery has to come back another time After shon connery they get roger moore in the midst of roger moore's run shon connery makes another bond film That's a weird kid too. Well years after the last one he'd made. Yeah, right? And yeah kim basing her was the bond chicken that one. Yes, she was and they called it never say never again because he'd said that He would never play bond again never trebek That's what he said, right

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That's teladoc.com slash stuff for jd power 2021 award information visit jdpower.com slash awards Timothy Dalton, I guess we might as well venture into his years Yeah, I I I saw those when they first came out like in the theaters and I didn't think anything of them I don't know if they were over my head or whatever, but I didn't like them They were pretty good living daylights and licensed to kill. They were both are they good really? Yeah, I mean they were it was definitely a more novelistic bond like he was darker And a little more bad dude And that I mean it might have something to do with those coming off the heels of roger more

In his vaudeville act that he brought to bond And dalton had a two-picture run and then was replaced by who everyone thought should have been bond before dalton pierce brosnan For a one two three four films, right, and then they went the inevitable direction with a blind bond With daniel craig is that inevitable you think well, I meant the inevitable way of making him a tough dude But yeah, but his blindness was not inevitable You know you make fun of roger more, but he had a seven-picture stint as james bond Yeah, I mean and that was our childhood trust me dude at the time. I loved it But then when I got older I revisited all of the shonk honorees and then I saw the butt kicking this of timothy dalton

And now daniel craig and now i'm kind of like roger morel's kind of a joke To me no you still stand by it. I do all right. I like roger more sam neal was considered at one point I could see him as james bond. He would have been bad. He was great and dead calm Uh, yeah, that was a good movie. You know, I don't know that this even qualifies as a podcast People can be like, uh, you guys are just kind of chitchatting Chuck there's also theories tons of them best one Actually, the only one I could find really is the codename theory. Have you heard this? I have not cracked got a lot of publicity for it by

Um, it's a fan theory that basically says james bond is It's a name that goes along with 007 And there's each actor was playing an actual different person Who had assumed this undercover name james bond really which explains the changes in personality Yeah, uh, it explains why shonk honoree was so suave and roger more was so goofy sure Uh, it explains why daniel craig and timothy dolmer so violent, right? Right? Um, it explains a lot of stuff Actually explains george lazanby's departure because his wife the only time james bond has ever been married died In that one on honor her majesty's secret service. Yeah, he had a wife most people don't know and she was killed by blow felt

Right. Yeah, so he leaves After that that explains that right Absolutely, there's actually holes in that theory Do you know them? I know a couple like for example, george lazanby recognized gadgets that were Debuted during shonk honoree's tenure. Oh, right. He was a new person. He would it would be new to him He'd be like, what's his dart gun? Right? Exactly, right. Um, and uh, I think uh, the spy who loved me roger more is recognized from his college days

At cambridge as james bond. Oh, yeah, which would mean that he was using the name before then But it's still pretty cool theory If you want any cool theory shot down, I recommend you go to commander bond net MI 6.co.uk or james bond wiki.com. Those are some good sites I'm gonna retract my roger more bashing a little bit. Okay. I actually liked Like four out of seven of his films. Okay, I would see So you're right after I for sometimes I forget about the awesomeness of Live and let die and man with a golden gun for your eyes only. Those are all pretty good. It was like octopussy

moon riker was really silly does not age well at all and uh You do a kill. I just can't get behind that. Do you do a kill is awesome What about um, the spy who loved me? That's the one with the greater water lotus. So yeah, yeah, great great movie Um, and I have one last fact. Are you ready? Oh, yeah The legendary bond producer co-producer albert cubby broccoli. Yeah His family invented broccoli. They crossed cauliflower with rabe and invented broccoli

And he actually left the family farm to go to hollywood to pursue his fortune when he was like 18 Are you making this up? I am not he invented broccoli. His family did his like parents Grandparents. That's a pretty good fact broccoli. Very cool. Good for him. They're in trouble now though because mgm is in trouble Yeah, but they're saying like it's just a blip on the radar if you listen to any anybody who's attached to the bond 23 Oh, it'll happen at some point, but it's like this is fine Yeah, it's being delayed big time though because mgms and and over their heads financially If you know anything about um mgm if you're an insider mgm, we want to hear from you. Let us know What's going on bond? That's funny. Uh, we should we got to talk about bond girls. That's one of the hallmarks of bond films and uh

Usually there's two bond girls at least there's like a hot villain and like a hot uh An aide that helps him out in some way sometimes she turns out to be a villain But there's usually two bond girls and he's equally attracted to both like grace johns Yeah, he was attracted to her for some reason Uh, they are femme fatales like I said bond cannot help but fall for them even though they it might mean he has to eventually kill them after he makes sweet love to them

And uh, I'm going to go ahead and ask you what your favorite bond girl is I just um recently realized that carry lowell Uh, was a bond girl and I used to have the biggest crush on her when I would watch um Wild orchid no, uh law and order reruns on a and e Yeah, they used to show like law and order for like eight hour blocks on a and e And I'd be like I'm not going to class today. I'm just gonna watch law and order and she was on a lot of them And she yeah, she would be my favorite bond girl. I'm going with uh ursula andris. Yeah, she was hot

Dude back in the day she played honey rider And that's another uh hallmark of the bond women is they usually had Really awful names that hinted at sexual innuendo Yeah, you know plenty of tool honey rider pussy galore Uh Actually solitaire jane seymour. She was pretty good in live and let die Like that. She was actually a really good actor. Okay, uh moon raker, of course had a holly good head

and uh A view to a kill had tanya robert's As stacey sutton They didn't even give her a cool name. So chuck. What's the best bond theme song? Well, let me take a wild guess I'm gonna say live and let die is probably my favorite Because you know I would have put a thousand dollars on that or um What's her name?

Carly simon spy who loved me nobody does it better love that song dude Best bond theme song if it's not View to a kill. Oh, okay, if it's not that it is nancy sinatra singing you only live twice. Yeah, that was awesome Yes, it was. Um surely basi just another little factoid. She did two. No, she did more than that. She did goldfinger. She did diamonds or forever She did moon raker moon raker That's three total. Uh, I was also a big fan of sheena easton's for your eyes only. Yes, she did good And read a coolage all time high for moctapussy. Didn't tom jones do thunderball or something? He did. Yeah, he did thunderball

Quite a guy and since we're talking about the songs that have really gotten lame in recent years Like the chris cornell one and garbage You probably didn't even remember they did songs garbage did the one for um world is not enough Oh, okay pierce brazilan. Yeah, and sheryl crow did one. Did she really? Yeah while it is lame And madonna did one and and now it's gotten to the point where they're just like like the last one they Put jack white with alicia keys up next is miley cyrus Oh god, so anything so bond 23 Uh, what else do we have here? This is the podcast that won't die

No, I do have like james bond. It just goes on. I do have a couple of more facts Okay, well first of all before you move on if we're going to talk about the songs We need to talk about the opening sequences the title sequences When you're a young baptist boy And there are naked silhouetted women jumping on trampolines. Yeah, it's very titillating and arousing and arousing for a young boy Name chuck. I'm titillated and aroused And then the opening sequence of the films typically is some awesome action scene And then the title sequence comes up. There'll be like a seven minute action scene

Or they call that a cold opening buddy a cold opening. Uh-huh. That's very nice And uh, just got a couple more facts for you josh, and then I'll let you put this to bed All right with what would you say is the highest grossing bond film of all time adjusted gross Adjusted gross. I would say casino royale No top two all-time Thunderball and goldfinger. You're a liar adjusted gross You know casino royale worldwide netted like almost almost 600 million dollars so far bunch of money

Thunderball and goldfinger did more did they really? Yeah, thunderball and 1965 dude grossed 141 million dollars. What and that is that worldwide or us? That's worldwide. Okay, and that is close to what? License to kill grossed in 1989 that grossed like 150 something And thunderball, you know 30 years more grossed 141 million right, but what i'm saying is casino royale grossed 600 million

Well, I mean, yeah, that's not an adjusted gross though. You can't compare. Oh, I see you're figuring inflation in yeah Yeah, that's what's called an adjusted gross And that's about it. I mean we could say the cars he used real quickly the aston martin obviously My favorite is the lotus the lotus the alpha romeo and then that new outie. That's pretty cool. Do you like the outie? Yeah, I mean it looks awesome. Okay, but I do miss the lotus and the fact that it could also be a submarine right and lastly chuck I would like to say to all the kids of our generation If you ever noticed the similarity between inspector gadget and james bond you were dead on Yeah, you think so yeah

All right, so that's about it. If you want to know more about james bond Um, like I said, there are three at least three really good websites for all things bond fandom You can check out our website by taping james bond brings up a bunch of stuff and the handy search bar and now If you can believe it it is time for listener mail Yes, josh, I'm gonna call this samurai stuff from thomas Guys, I'm a total samurai geek. I practice Japanese sword based martial arts kendo and a yado

I've read all this material about samurai and your podcast was a very good introduction and I thank you for it However, I am kind of surprised you did not mention the greatest samurai of all time Miyamoto Musashi This guy was the epitome of everything samurai were supposed to be a dedicated So, so event a poet a painter calligrapher philosopher a general and an all-round but-kicking killer Not only did he write the book of five rings. He also killed 60 men in single combat before age 40 Not to mention all the guys he killed in warfare

At one point in your podcast you talked about the wooden katana called bokeh in japanese Uh, yes, it was a practice sword, josh, but it was also a weapon in its own right Because japan is such a wet climate swords were sometimes destroyed by rust Boken were cheap and easy to replace and musashi was famous for winning some of his greatest battles with the wooden sword Ow, I know. Can you imagine dude? Getting smacked to death. Well, he says instead of cutting someone's heads off. He would brain them Which I guess means Like you cracked their skull. Yeah until their brains come out

Um, also, he was a big fan of using two swords at one time sometimes two katana Sometimes the short and the long whatever it took to do the job. You guys rock. I love your show I'm grateful for the samurai show from thomas Well, thank you thomas for the extra information as I said, we are always interested in knowing everything we possibly can about a subject So if you have anything to tell us about james bond that we missed that we got wrong that we need to know We want to hear it. Wrap it up and send it in an email. Don't forget to spank it on the bottom and maybe Serve it a dry martini shake and not stirred address it to

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