Subpar - American Century Championship Interviews: Rob Riggle, Joe Buck, Michael Pena, Mike Modano, Chase Utley, and Mark Mulder

Episode Date: August 3, 2021

On this special edition of GOLF's Subpar, American Century Championship competitors Rob Riggle, Joe Buck, Michael Pena, Mike Modano, Chase Utley, and Mark Mulder join host Drew Stoltz live from atop the Travis Mathew bus for exclusive, one-on-one, interviews.

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show it was. I love the playoffs, please, but we've got to give credit to our man, Zander Shaflick, guest on subpar, brought it home for the USA with an unbelievable up and down on the 72nd hole for PAR to beat Rory Sabatini by one. Yeah, dude, there was some drama at that thing. I stayed up as late

as I possibly could trying to watch that thing live. I only made it through about the front nine of Zander before I just passed out and I had to catch the rest the next day. And when I woke up and I watched the highlights of him getting up and down, having to pitch out and then knock it in there to three or four feet and make and I saw him make the put. And I thought he'd, I assumed he'd won by two or three shots because

the celebration was like nothing. I was like, oh, he probably had a little cushion there. He was like four up when I went to bed. And then I find out that was to win. I was to avoid a playoff. I was like, that is the most nonchalant celebration I've ever seen for a guy probably to win a gold medal. But shout out to Xander. That's an enormous win for him. Not only to be only the second guy to win an Olympic gold, but for a long time, like the narrative's been, Zander can't close. You know, it's been a while since he's won. I think you got to go back to 2019 since his last win, but he's been in contention a ton of time. It seems like every single major championship, you look up, he's on the front page of the

leaderboard, hasn't been able to close one out. And I think just for his mental, just winning. And I know it's not a PJ tour event. I know it's not a major championship, which is winning golf tournaments is hard. And for him to do that, to have that lead, watch it kind of shrink down to one and then close it out, I think it's big just for his psyche going forward to finally close the door on one. Couldn't agree more. I mean, this guy, he's one of the best in the world.

If he doesn't win a major championship in his career, I would be shocked. I heard him in an interview recently talk about how he's going to put that green jacket on one day. And speaking of that, the hometown hero, you know, Hadeki Matsiyama playing in Japan, I can't imagine the pressure he felt this week. If there would have been fans out there, it would have been absolutely insane. But here he is, a chance to win the gold medal is home country. I would love to be able to ask him, more nervous, Sunday of the Olympics or Sunday at Augusta National trying to win a green jacket. because I bet you they're very, very close.

Yeah, doing it at home. And like you said, if there were his fans there, it would have been a mob scene out there watching Hideki. Like, he went on a worldwide media tour after he won in Augusta. And I think it's, I don't even know if it slowed down yet. He may be still just, you know, riding on the fumes of that thing at Augusta. But yeah, dude, if there had been fans out there, that scene would have been unbelievable.

I'm hoping that, you know, we've had two Olympics now where golf's been featured. And they've both been kind of weird. You know, the first one, there was the Zika virus. And people didn't want to go down there and mess with that. now we had COVID. We lost John Rom and Bryson de Chambo, two of the biggest names in the field. I mean, imagine if it was if it was Rom and Zander coming down the stretch, how much more pub that would have got as opposed to like Rory Sabatini. Shout out to Rory Sabatini. Slovakia's very own, Slovakia's child, Rory Sabatini, yeah, by way of South Africa being down there.

But you know what I mean? We haven't had a regular Olympics yet in terms of golf. So I hope when it goes to Paris, like all this shit's behind us. It can just be normal. We can get the fans because it It would have been electric out there for Hedecki in Japan in front of his home crowd, especially coming off the year where he won the Masters. Yeah, and I just think it's the Olympics is going to continue to get bigger and more popular in the game of golf. I mean, you hear Justin Thomas, the way he talked about it. Paul Casey has been as passionate as anybody and now Zander after winning.

I mean, this is a big deal for these guys. You're representing your country, not just yourself like you do every week on the PGA tour. So awesome job. Congratulations to all the medal winners. and Slaid's congratulations to you because you were a part of Team Arizona out in Kansas City and y'all brought home a silver medal

from what I hear. Silver medal, they've got to say we're a little disappointed with that. It came down to the wire. And as you know, I was a little skeptical going in about the game and played a practice round. Suffice it to say, wasn't the best ball striking performance

in the history of golf, but then came out the first day and played some real golf. And I was like, oh my God, I'm back. You know, not missing a beat. ran into a little bit of issues there in round two. Hit some weird ones. But, you know, all in all, a great week.

Dude, it's such a fun tournament. I haven't played a lot of, like, amateur tournaments and things like that. But this was fun. It was like the perfect level of competitive, some really good players. You know, you go out there, you put the tea in the ground, you want to compete. But also, like, at night, you can go have a little fun. And it's not do or die, like it is in professional golf. And now everybody's going back to their hotel and getting in bed and doing all their stuff.

There's some guys that like to get after it. I got to say we won silver, North Texas, shout out to them. They won the tournament. They ended up clipping us by one. But the biggest win of the week goes to Team Louisiana, the Bayou Boys, Cole. Our boy, Billy Joe Tolliver was in the house and three of his fellas. We got paired with them on day one. I didn't know the other three until that day.

And God damn, those dudes like to get after it. And they definitely carried the flag. If there was the get amongst it invitational, they want it. They were no, no breaks on that squad this week. So that's what I'm saying, dude. Like they were there more to have fun. There's some teams that are really locked in, and we were probably somewhere in the middle.

We had a great time. It was a hell of a time. And next year, how about this, dude? It's at Firestone. So big boy yard next year, if I can grease my way onto that squad. But all on all, I was fairly happy with overall performance, given the state of the game going in.

All right. I'll take it. I'll take it. But by the way, Billy Joe Tolover, natural treasure. We got to get him on. He is one of the funniest dudes on the planet. That's happening.

That's inked. for sure. So this episode this week is fantastic. Arguably my best work that I've ever done. I'm just going to tap you were nails, bro. You were so too solid, too solid. Don't ever say, don't ever say, don't ever say nails again. We don't say. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, never mind. That's been, that's been beaten into the ground, my bad. Don't say that anymore. But this week, you were up in Lake Tahoe, got to get amongst it with a lot of celebrities that there, did some interviews, and we're combining them all into one show. It's going to be fantastic. We got Rob Riggle, Joe Buck, Michael Pena,

Chase Utley, Mark Mulder, the gift from God himself, and Mike Madonna. I mean, how much fun is that? The gift from Satan. Yeah, exactly. Have you ever man crushed on anyone more than Rob Wrigal? Oh, bro, there was, I mean, sparks were in the air as soon as we met. We actually went to dinner the night before, so that was cool, like, just kind of randomly got hooked up there, and so we talked a little bit at dinner, and I was just like,

yeah, this was the one I was looking forward to. Suffice it to say, we are now best friends. I'm sorry, Colt. You know, you're right up there at the top, too, but Rob Wrigal just slid in. He's near the top now, but he was a really fun way to talk to. But all these dudes, honestly, I mean, I know these are like kind of shorter sit-down interviews. You don't get to dive into the weeds quite as much, but like there's some guys on here

that we talk to that we really got to get into. And Joe Buck, too, man. Like, we've had him on a radio show. We've talked to him, gotten to know him pretty well. That guy is awesome. He is so fun to talk to. Like, he's got great stories. He just kind of gets.

I really like him on the calls, too. I know there's a lot of, you know, you can't really believe the internet because it's mostly nitwits out there, but just bitching about stuff. But he's awesome. He was a 10. All these guys are awesome. We got to get some full-length, you know, our typical interviews lined up with a lot of these guys because they're sweet. Yes.

And you failed me on one thing because I told you had to ask Joe Buck about the story how he met his wife because it's one of the greatest stories ever. So we'll save that for a full length episode because I'm not kidding. You're going to die when you hear how he met his wife. It's great. We'll get Joe back. He already said like, yo, have me on while come on for the real deal. that stuff. So we'll, well, that needs like it's a full platform, a full runway for him to really lead into how that all went down. All right. Well, here it is. Coming to you from Lake Tahoe. We got Rob Riggle,

Joe Buck, Michael Pena, Chase Utley, Mark Mulder, and Mike McDonough. Here we go. All right, we got seven-time Emmy winner with us here today. Sports broadcasting icon. Joe Buck is in the house. How we doing? We're doing good. Played okay today. Little final practice tune up before tomorrow. I feel like I'm not swinging with my own arms. You know how that is. You play golf and it's fun when you're with your friends. And man, you do end up coming out here and you're playing something where people are lying in the fairways. And it's a different deal.

Do you have the nerves? Like you're used to talking in front of millions of people of biggest games in the world. But now you're good at that. That's what you do. Then you come out of here, a little audio element. It's absurd. It's absurd to think that you can do a Super Bowl for 115 million people. Yeah.

and not feel nervous. I mean, you're always excited, anxious. You know, it's great. And I love doing it. Then you come out here, and it's nerves at another level. And I think it's just because you want to show your best. You want to not come off looking like a fool. You want to show that you can play.

And it's not what we do for a living. So it's a bit foreign, and to do it where there's expectations. I have more expectation than anybody wants. watching me. But it just works against me because I, you know, it just, it changes, changes everything about the way you play. Yeah, and every athlete that we have up here says the exact same thing. Like, oh, well, in football, I was good. So I was less than this. I suck and I'm literally trying not just making ass with myself. Yeah, I mean, but there's, there's, and those guys are athletes. I mean, I, I, I was decent in high school. That's about where it ended. And that's why

I broadcast for a living. But I think at the end of the day, you know, we're out here to have fun. I know that I can't win. So it's silly for me. to even worry about that and worry about my point total. But, you know, I've finished as high as I think tied for 15th, which was the greatest athletic accomplishment in my life. And if I can get anywhere near there again, I'll walk out of Tahoe a very happy person. They're still talking about that 15th.

Oh, my God. People cannot shut up about that 15. I mean, you know, as you play, you play. Nobody cares about anybody else. You only care about yourself. 100%. And you think you would figure that out eventually, but when you're in it, you can't get over that.

Well, you're so busy, too, with work. I mean, you go from football to baseball. You do everything. There can't be a lot of, like, downtime for you to actually sit down and, oh, I'm going to play four times this week. I'm not doing that, yeah. I'm not playing multiple times a week. Plus, we have three-year-old twins.

I've got 25 and 22-year-old daughters, and then three-year-old twin boys. Wow. I've got them coming and going. That's a spread. That's a spread. That's not an ideal spread. Math is not my friend. I'm like, they're three.

I'm 52. So when they're graduating grade school, I'll be 104. Yeah. So it's really not to... They'll roll you in there. Yeah, they're rolling me in there. It'll keep you young or kill me, one of the other. And either way, I'm good.

When you're traveling and going to all the different places you go to, do you get to... Is there enough time for you to bring your sticks and go play? Like, hey, I'm in New York. Maybe I can pop out and play somewhere. When I'm with Smoltz and we're there for more than one day... Yeah. Like when the World Series is in L.A.,

he can set up a golf tour better than anybody. walking a planet. And we have fun. Now, it makes for a long day because the games don't start till that night, and then you're going for four hours, and you can't really wind down, and you try to do it again the next day. But when I was doing the Cardinals on a day-to-day basis, and you're in Cincinnati for three days, and Houston for three days, and Atlanta for three days, and San Francisco, that's when you kind of learn how to play. And that's when I was playing my most golf. Now I'm at the stage where I'm kind of, okay, when's the last moment I can get in? And when it's the first moment I can get out and I want to get back home.

And I want to see my kids and I want to see my wife. And so there's not a lot of multiple days on the road playing golf. And you can probably do most of these shows in your sleep now, I think. With as much as you've done it, like, I feel like you've got to have it down pretty much. It takes the edge off so you can kind of have fun with it. You know, when you're, when you feel comfortable enough to be yourself and then give information and call the play-by-play, but also show personality and have just a good. time. That makes the job 10 times more fun than back when I was 27 doing my first world series going, where the hell am I? And I'm not sure I'm ready for this. And I don't want to

be found out as some fraud and some famous guy's kid. And once you get over all that, then you can have fun. And yeah, you know the basics. And then you go about just calling a fun good game. Yeah. And it's an art and you've got it down to a science. You're really good at it. But as a broadcaster, you're used to breaking down strengths and weaknesses of the players that are on the field, right? Right. Give me the Joe Buck scouting report from Joe Buck on Joe Buck's golf game. How would you describe it, ladies and Jen? Good iron player. You're going to start with a good.

Okay, good, yeah. Can be quite erratic off the tee and has really struggled with his feel on the greens, especially out here at Edgewood. Because what looks uphill, it still takes off. These greens are so good. so fast and so true that for people like me with not the greatest touch in the world, it's that that's where the thing really is won and lost. And so last year when I was terrible, put it by the hole. Now you're knee knocking five footers, six footers.

You miss that. Now a par turns into a double. Compounds, yeah. It sucks. Yeah. It sucks. I suck. That's the end.

You got the attitude, though. At least you come here in no expectations. I'm not trying to win and you just go out and have a good time. I've played enough. I've played enough with Marty Fish. I played enough with Tony Romo. I played enough with all these guys at the top. And Smolts.

I played enough with these guys to know that I can't beat them over three days. So just who cares? Yeah. Just come out here and have a time. Right. Drink. That's it. Drinking is good.

Drus is a lot of illness. Drinking, they're, trust me. I've been known. And the worse I play, the more I start to drink, and then it kind of goes back the other way. I start playing better because I don't care. I love that. Even if I'm not caring, I've got to know this, because you've called so many games over your career, every different sport.

You ever found yourself in like the bottom of the sixth? It's eight to zero snooze fest game. And you're up there and you're just like, I really don't give a shit about this. This just needs to end. That's a fair question. And I'll give you the honest answer. That's maybe happened a couple times in my life. And it happened for the wrong reasons because we did the Super Bowl when Denver was playing Seattle.

Yeah, I remember it. A complete blowout. And you know when there's 100 million people watching this thing, and it's awful, that you just, you better pull a rabbit out of your hat. That's how you think, even though people are having fun, they're at parties, they don't really care what you're saying. But I remember being at halftime, whatever the score was, it was a blowout. And Aikman and I were talking to each other, like, all right, it's Peyton Manning, for God's sake. He's going to get this team back in the game. and second half kickoff, Percy Harvin takes it the other way for a touchdown.

We're like, that's it. Okay. And I remember watching that back going, I've never said how much time was left in a quarter. Like, and that'll be a three-yard run. There's now $6.55 left in the third quarter. That's a completion to lock it for seven yards. There's now $6.21 left in the third quarter. I just was counting down, just like, get me out of here because the game's no good and the stakes are

at their highest and you just want to kind of get out of die. Please God run the ball in every play and let's keep this thing thumping. Especially in a Super Bowl where you want it to be a game and then you got it. But at least that's a Super Bowl, I would think like late July of St. Louis game, you know, down one to nine and it's a snoozer. You got to just like, dude, please strike out and get me out here. So there's a difference too when you're doing the local radio versus the network national stuff. Like the network national stuff, they'll keep you hopping with promos and let's talk about the games next week.

whenever. When you're doing local radio and it's 13 to 1, you can't wait to get out. You can probably just start going and saying whatever you want. People are like, what do you want for me, guys? 13 to you know, you get what you get here. Turn it off. I mean, this is my best at this moment. You're going to have to live with it. When you're out here with a bunch of these guys, like there's so many pro athletes and

things like that, and you're calling these guys games. And it doesn't have to necessarily be out here. But have you ever said something maybe critical of an athlete? Like, he's not good here. He has this weakness. And then run into that athlete and been like, oh, hey, hey, feeling. a shitty route runner. I'm like, oh, hey, Adam, you look great. I walk

into these, when they have the rules meetings on Wednesdays, and I'm like, did I piss off anybody in this crowd? I've got to be tough. I mean, I know I piss off fans. They're like, why do you hate the Giants? I'm like, I don't root against that's just going to happen. But in there, when you're like staring at Cecee Sabathia,

who looks like he could oh my God, dismember you. He could. Yeah, and I'm like, have I ever said it? Okay, we're good. No, I was always good to Cecee. But for the most part. I mean, I realize how good these guys are. And that's when, you know, for the five years we did the U.S. Open and all the U.S.S.GA stuff. I know how hard this game is. What am I going to possibly say about whoever, Jordan Spieth about, you know, oh, boy, what a, what a terrible

shot. That is I, golf's hard, sports are hard. You know, they're trying their best. They're not trying to, you know, to strike out. They're not trying to drop a touchdown. They're not trying. So as long as you kind of keep perspective and how good and how hard it is to do that, I don't go that direction. Yeah, you do a good job of that. But golf is hard, golf broadcasting is hard too, and you got in that arena for a while. How did you find that? Like, you know, the first time you're out there, it's like you see Joe Buck, that's football guy, that's baseball guy, and here you are in the golf world. How did you find doing that coverage? I remember we did practice broadcast from 2014 of Pinehurst. And I got the DVD.

It was Greg Norman to me, and I went home, and I played it for my daughters. And my youngest, who's my best critic, and my most honest, was like, yeah, that sucks. And she's like, it sounds like you're doing baseball or football. And then initially I was like, go to your room, you're grounded. And then I was like, you know what? She's right, because it needs a different tone. You cannot be loud. You can't be – because when you talk and you're doing an NFL or an MLB game, it's kind of louder than normal conversation.

golf does not need that, want that. And so you have to tone it back a little bit. And that was hard for me to learn. And then the whole idea that, you know, when I go to a baseball game or a football game, I'm in the best seed in the house. I see everything in front of me. Golf, if I want to look at any piece of the golf course, it's behind me. And I'm going to, you know, you're hearing in your ear, we're going to Ford at speed,

putting for birdie. Well, I'm not there. So I'm going off other people's information, and so it comes at you a lot faster than anything else. And you would think it would be really slow, but it's not. When you're broadcasting, it's really quick. That's why I watch Nance and all the guys, you know, Dan and all the guys do it regularly. And I'm like, that's a real skill. But I started to feel good with it after a few years, but, you know, I'm glad they're doing it.

It's different. It's like there's 18 different games going on at a time as opposed to one. But did you enjoy doing the golf? loved it. I mean, you know, I just love being around golf and I'll hit balls all day if, you know, my wife loses her phone or I lose mine and nobody's, you know, yelling at me to get home. I just love being around the driving range and I love being around watching guys strike the ball and hearing of what they're working on. And, and, you know, I've said it a bunch of times. I've never played baseball at Yankee Stadium. I've never run past patterns at Gillette Stadium. But I've played Oakmont and I've played Pebble. beach and I played Chinnecock and I played these places so I know how difficult it is. And then to be able to sit there, watch them attack these golf courses, it was, it was really fun. It was really fun for me. Yeah, it's the only thing where you can compare yourself directly to the best of the

world. Like, I played that hole from that same T-box and I hit it over and now you can't say like, oh, last time I played the Lakers, I scored 22. Exactly, yeah. It's the only thing you was a direct comparison. Oh, I hit that ball out of Yankee Stadium. Like I went to the power alley. I hit it about 410. No, you're like, yeah, I played back because when we would go to. of these media days, we play the tour like the pro T's and it's visually intimidating and the

care of force carries and where you have to hit the ball. And I'm playing with, you know, McCarron early and McCarran can still bomb it. Yeah, it's a good. You know, Faxon. Faxon doesn't hit it a mile, but he's going to make it up on the greens. And so, you know, you're comparing yourself to even the guys I'm broadcasting with, let alone the young guys that are still playing. And it's just, it's a different game. And you're good enough. golfer to have perspective to kind of explain it in golf terms, which I think is huge for the golf crowd, the Twitter, whatever, like they're used to having it presented a certain way. And God forbid you use some different terminology, and they're used it, it's not called that. It's called, you know,

the cut line or if you call it something different, they're going to be like, you know. You got to, yeah. And so I had that, like, if you, if you asked me to go call a soccer match, yeah, I'd have to learn a new vocabulary. The pitch. It's called pitch. Right. So it's a pitch, not the field. It's the, but when you do the USGA stuff, that's also, it's not the driving range. It's the practice tea. It's not. The T-box, it's the teeing ground. It's not the... It's not the hazard, it's the penalty area.

It's like, what are we doing? It starts locking you up, and it's like, wait, am I saying this right? Because you just want to go, hey, whoever, I don't know, Daniel Berger's walking up. He's back on the T-box. Oh, wait, no, I'm not supposed to say T-box. All that, yeah. You know, I'm glad, again, I'm glad that others are doing it, and I just get to watch it and admire it. It's a different animal, but you do a good job in the arena that year.

in, but Brooks and Bryson getting a ton of pub right now for this little feud, you know, going back and forth. Who's the Joe Buck rival this week? The one guy you want to beat at the ACC more than anyone? Or it would pain you to lose to this person? Yeah. You got one? Or do you want to start one right now? Do you want to start a beef? Yeah, I think we should start one. Who do you want to attack? We'll blow this up. Molder? He needs someone to hate on him. He's perfect. He's like a Lewis guy. Is Molder like a perfect human being? He is literally created in a lab. He's beautiful, big, strong, good at every sport. He's walking around. He's like secretary at walking around.

He is. Secretary with a golf club. Yeah. So he pisses me off. I mean, I don't like him because of that. We'll use that right there. Yeah, I mean. Want to say some more molder stuff?

He stinks. His breath stinks. Bad breath. Yeah, obviously. I got nothing else. But he's too good to be like, you know, he's too good. He's out here hitting balls right now. Probably double me on point.

That should be the bet. He has to double you or you win. Yeah, he won't double me. That's the line. He won't double you. He might double me. It's possible. He can double me.

But we'll say. All right, last question. You got seven Emmys, like I said, would you trade one for the stars to the line and Joe Buck becomes the ACC champion? I would trade. So now you have six Emmys and one ACC. I'd trade all of them away? Yeah. God, that's a man that loves the game.

Or I trade all but one. Keep won. Because when you've won one Emmy, you're Emmy Award winning. It doesn't matter how many you've won. So I'll keep half of one. and you can have the other. Seven does sound good. Like Tom Brady seven times Super Bowl champs.

That sounds pretty good other than just Super Bowl champ. You're seven time Emmy guy. That's true. But by the same token, I would have so much pride in myself and so much street credit home and so much I'd become an asshole. And think of what you could do on the broadcast. I'd be like, and here's so-and-here's so. I've by the way, whooped his ass and so he sucks. Well, the one year I finished fine, I was like, okay, I'd be whoever.

Chris Chandler. you know, like a whole grouping of quarterbacks. It was like, and Adam Fieland scores a touchdown. By the way, I beat him by 14 this way. He's this combat. All right, well, I respect that. It's a man that loves the game.

Joey, appreciate you coming on, man. You're the best. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Thank you. All right, we got one of the busiest men in Hollywood with us here today, but this week taking a little time off to compete for the title here in Tahoe. Michael Pena, what's up, my man?

What's going on, bro? I'm not going to win. I'm not going to win. But, like, you know, if I could break maybe, you know, the top 20, I'll be happy. All right, well, give us a little background on the golf. You say you're not going to win. We'll talk about that later. But what's the status of the game, handicapped, all that?

I'm going to win in here. I'm going to win in here. That's right. I'm a four-handicap. I play out of Lakeside in Burbank, California. And then I play out of Pelican, which is Bel Air. Yeah. It's a really great course, Bel Air, Florida.

They host the LPGA event, you know, Pelican Invitational. Dude, a four-handicab, with how much you work, like, I was looking up all your movies that you've been in all, I mean, it is a page long. I feel like you're constantly working. So to maintain a four, like, do you get to play golf when you're out working, making movies? It sounds better. You're making it sound better by maintaining a four. It's like, that's crass. You know what I mean?

It ain't that far, but. You're like maintaining an 18 handicap. Well, yeah, I mean, like, I've kind of had the same, you know, I work with Dana Dauquist, probably the most out of anybody else. I'm like, obviously, like, if I have, like, three months, you know, where I'm playing somewhere, or, like, you know, like when I did Narcos, Mexico, I'll get, like, a, you know, I'll get a lesson from the local guy and stuff. And just to make sure, because my alignment, for some reason, I'll, you know, stand closed. And then my shoulders are open, and it feels totally square. It's the weirdest thing, but that's been happening to me forever.

So. Get Dana, get, keep some tabs on it? Oh, Dana, yeah, I send him. How often do you go see him? Um, dude, it's been 15 years, dude, like, um, so maybe even longer. I don't know, but I'm like, I talk to him all the time. And, uh, it's, it's always cool to talk shop with him. He's, he's so into it.

Yeah, he's good. He told me when you, when you first started working with him, you were, you showed up, like, 12, 13 handicapped and he said within a year with how competitive you are, you were down to like a four or five within a year. Dude, it was a pretty big jump. It was actually like stack and tilt thing. Oh, were you doing that? Dude, it was, I don't know why people were crapping on it, but like literally I was like,

I went from a 12 to a 2 with stack and tilt, and then for some reason, I was actually, you know, going on my right side and doing more like a counterfall, like a baseball kind of a thing. And for some reason, I moved away from it and then, um, you might be the poster boy for stack and tilt because a lot of people went through it and then went away from it. Dude, couldn't get it up in the air, little hooks. Remember that, dude? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Are you stacked? Oh, yeah.

Yeah, they were incredible. I'm like, let's go, dude. You got a cool story about how you like first got into golf, right? It wasn't until you started working. You were out on your first acting gig, I think. Yeah, so Jack Lemon and James Garner were talking about it all the time. I was like, what is this? And then, so that was my first introduction to it.

And then they kept, you know, every actor and musician, because I'm a musician as well, you know, they were all talking about it. I was like, you know what, dude? I'm going to go. And so I forgot where I was, but I went to this range in the middle of nowhere. I was doing a movie. And there was a VW bug 100 yards away. Like 10 cup stuff. And the dude that was manning the driving range said, look, man, if you can just hit that there, man, you'll be good.

And it took me seven buckets to hit that damn VW. And then I was like, dude, you know, it went five buckets and three buckets. And I just got so frustrated. I was like, dude, you've got to be kidding me. And I was hooked from then on. So I've been playing for 20 years. One range session, and then you got the bug. No, it was a week.

Oh, a week long? It was like seven buckets and five buckets to hit that thing. And then I was, it was, like after a week, I was able to, even if it was a skull. It counts. It counts. I got home. Yeah, exactly. No points.

So now when you're home, if you're not working, you're out in L.A., you've mentioned some of the places you play. Who are you playing with? You got buddies, just regular dudes that you like to go out and play with? Are you playing with other actors? Yeah. I mean, dude, it's really, like, at Lakeside, like, it's all types of people. You know what I mean?

There's some people that are construction. Like, it's a great track. It's a great group of friends, you know? and I just show up. And I don't even make a tea time, dude. I just, you know. I just show up. And I was like, who wants a game?

And there's always a game there. And then same thing with Bel Air. And then I have a bunch of friends. I play in Florida. I play with Kyle Kendrick, you know, Doc Rosen. He's like, this guy's like the quietest dude, but he's like a great putter. And Vinnie La Cavier, who was on the, you know, the Lightning, who just actually won the Stanley Cup.

But he won it in 2004. So those are my buddies there. And Donald, I mean, Carver. And so those guys, so I have, like, everywhere that I go, like, I have a group of buddies that I just play with. Even if it's for 20 bucks, it's something. It's like you're paying for entertainment. You got to have something out there. You got to have something.

Yeah, 100%. All right. All right. We got Olympics coming up. I need you to make right now. If the U.S. was going to send a Hollywood Olympic team, golf, you get four guys, top four guys in Hollywood and golf right now, who would it be? It would probably be, let me see, Timberlake. What's his handicap right now, do you think?

You gotta be close, right? I think he's a three, maybe a two. So you're right there. Something like that. No. No, you're four. It's like a pyramid, dude. Like the, you know, you've got to put in so much work.

It's more like an inverse for pyramid. You've got to be that much better. You know, any pros are this much better than a scratch. It's a jump. It's a jump. It's a huge jump. Three to four, you're in the ballpark. I'm in the ballpark.

I'm in the ballpark. Timberlakey. Let me see. Wagner, of course. Right. I'm going to say Who's a Who's a trumpet guy?

Trumpet guy? Yeah, he's like, you know He plays a flute The jazz flute? Yeah Saxophone? Kenny G? Kenny G, dude

I heard he's fired dude I don't know He's always up in pebble and doing that deal He's supposed to be scratched, right? I mean, he's got rhythm I thought he was like a saxophone guy I don't know I think he actually plays everything

Dude, that's not my style of music, too. I know. You lost me with the trials. I was like, John Coltrane. Dude, who doesn't pump Kenny G. Yeah, exactly. I don't want to know you if you don't blast Kenny. And then who else? What other?

So there's two, no, you got three. Wags, Timberlake, Kenny G. Are you in the running? I mean, are you at Olympic trials? I don't think so, dude. I'm not even Olympic trials, dude. Like a backup? If one guy goes down, maybe?

No, I'd be like a backup dancer. Oh, okay. Timberlake could use those? Yeah, exactly, dude. That's not a bad living. Alfonso, Rere. Yeah, exactly. He's in there, too.

I think, I mean, some of the guys here, you know. Yeah, there's some good ones. Marty Fish. He's good. He's, I would call him an athlete instead of a Hollywood guy. What about Walberg? Is Wahlberg in the running? Wallberg, I think, is in the running.

He's pretty good. I don't know, but he plays so quick. That's his digit, dude. I love that. It was, I mean, I'm talking about an hour and a half, dude. Yeah, so everyone has their own cart, just, dude, he's like, he gets it. I did a movie with shooter with him 17 years ago,

And he kind of, to be honest, you introduced me to like country club stuff. And I was like, whoa, I've never, you know, where the grass, it doesn't even look real. And he took me out and I had to chuck it, dude. But where, you know, he does, he can complete a lot of cycles in one day. He got a lot of shit going on. He got a lot of shit. He got a lot of shit. And he got up before the snooze button.

And I bet he goes out. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. He's got a workout for his pre-workout. Yeah, he gets, he ain't missing many days. He's got a bicep on top of his biceps. Yeah. His veins are coming.

from places. I don't even get it. What about Larry David? I need to know a little about Larry David. Larry David, he works with Rondo Barrio at the driving range I used to go to, which is awesome. A lot of his guys, he was talking about, you know, swinging left long time ago. And because he crushes the, you know, he used to crush about 300 yards. You're like, wow, he still hits it. Yeah, I've seen some videos pop up. He still moves it on. He has that Rondo Barrio swing. Yeah. Why follow on Instagram, by the way. Yeah, exactly. All right, that's hell of an Olympic squad, so that's the team.

We're going to try it. We're going to trot over there. We need L.D. there, maybe like the Minister of Culture or whatever. Pretty good, right? Exactly. All right, I got to hear the story because I know you've got a highlight of your golf career potentially. I think it's called the Celebrity Cup.

Is it at Riviera and you're on Team Tiger? Oh, yeah. Something goes down on the last hole that you did. Can you tell us that? Dude, so someone was just talking a bunch of poop. I forgot who it was. Poop talker. Yeah, I think it was, I don't know who it was.

And they're like, he's going to miss it. And it was for birdie. on the 18th. Last hole of this match, which is like, it's Team Tiger, other guys. And it's cold.

And of course, you got the adrenaline pump it, so I bump it out there, like, at least 240. Of course. No, just kidding. By the way, by the way,

interesting story. Bubba Watson, I told his caddy, I was like, you know, I hit it like 250. He's like, you don't hit it 250, bro. And I was like,

yeah, I got to see. Who said that? Bubba said that or the catty? Bubba was like, yeah, I hit it 250. I was like, I hit it longer than that, but I was like,

He's like, you can't hit a 250, dude. Bubba Watson bet me his watch. I couldn't hit a 250. I get on the track, man. The first drive is 2.67. And then Tiger's like, I don't know. You did lose. You did say you were going to give him the watch.

Yeah, that's a bet you. I'll bet you whatever you want, especially with adrenaline, dude. I was like, for sure, easy. So where's them? I don't see it. I never gave it to you. So that was before the match. And then this is to win the match for Team Woods against Team Bubba.

And I sunk a like a 15-foot birdie put. to win it for us. And Tiger's out there, right? Oh, man, it was the best. Uppercut, all that. You pay homage. I did the uppercut. The stutter, stutter.

And then, ah, I did the glory chant. Mm-hmm. And, dude, it was probably the, that and the hole in one were probably the best golf stories I have. What's the whole in one story? Oh, so I was, this was maybe 12, 13 years ago.

I was playing for the first time in front of cameras, which is different. It's way different. When somebody, when you're there and some camera guy I just post up and he's right there. Start thinking about your swing.

Just like, you're like, whoa, dude, it's worse than a mirror, you know? Like, it's going to go on for eternity. I hit it so bad that the, the, the, the, slow, did a slow fall onto the ball. And I was like, dude, I'm out. I'm out. I just picked up. Quit. And then I had one of those Napoleon Dynamite moments where it was like 140 yards and I'm like, I'm going to make this, man, 409.

I'm going to make this. And that was the clearest I ever did. I'm like, I hit it. and it went in one hopped in right after the divvick goes over the ball dude I'm no on the second part three not on that one yeah no on the next hole the same round though yeah exactly same round it's a nice jump and I totally redeem myself and I was just so out of it that I that I went up I went into the gallery and it took me forever to get it out of the hole they're like Mike where'd you go and I was like I don't know dude I can't feel my legs it's down yeah so awesome

is that your only one you got one I got five you got five shit well because also forget When I talk to pros, no, but here's the thing. When I talk to pros, I'm like, we get like 135-yard par threes. They get like 230. You got 230 to-200. Well, they also play golf every single day for their whole lives and you make movies and then show up. So you need a little bit of a difference. It's a lot harder to get one 200 yards away. True. If we had 200 yards away, there would be no hole in ones. Very good point. Yeah. Well, you got one out here this week. You got a few other cracks. Go get you one this week. Go get you one this week. Good luck to you. And hey, if it's nothing else, get that $250,000 watch from Bubbo. Let's go. You owe him, bud. All right, I got an NHL icon with me here today.

He is a former Stanley Cup champion, and this week he is trying to become American Century Champion as well. Mike Madano, what's going on, my man? How are you, man? Long time. Long time. You've been good? 12 hours or so. How you been?

Everything good? Everything's great. Life's good. Family's good. Golf game, you know. Let's talk about that right now because I've played a lot of golf with you. I think you're one of the most talented celebrities in this field period, including all the guys that have won it. How have we not won this thing yet?

betting on you every year. I think it's the five inches between the year. It always comes down to that. But you always feel good coming into this and this just kind of puts you back to reality and just test your game in all aspects. But having to hit a shot under the gun where you just don't drop one out of the pocket and hit again, you know, it's a challenge. So you try to get prepared as much as you can. But, you know, I'm not a big Poana Green fan. So we come from Whistper Rock Greens or Victory Ranch from Utah. I mean, it's glass and then you've got to deal with Poana. So right there I'm already thinking about it like a month ago. It's already in my head.

I feel it's like a no win. Let's talk about the five inches between the brain you're just talking about because like I said, I've played a lot of golf with you. Talent-wise, it's top-notch. But then there are times where maybe a shot doesn't go exactly where you want it to go. This thing starts going and there's some negative self-talk that is elite.

It's a special level. It is. How is that going? It's still the same. Yeah, it's still top-notch. I think it's that locker room talk about it. you know, a bunch of hockey guys. I think that's what we, we've got a vocabulary that's pretty thick with some good words.

And that comes out usually in the golf game. And you've heard it before. It can just go on for hours. So, yeah, so one thing leads to another. Then the words come out. Then I'm gone. It is a special type of rant you can go on. Do you think that comes from like, you're one of the best hockey players ever play the game?

You're top of, you know, your class in that sport. And then you go play golf. And so you're used to being perfect out here in hockey. And you come to golf. And you're not perfect. You're really good, but is that just, is that the way the brain reacts to that? Probably. I think there's always a level of expectations, especially the amount of time I put in this game.

I mean, so you feel like it's going to give you something back at some point. It never does. When you sit around waiting for it, some type of correction or some type of idea that you got this thing figured out, it just slaps you again. Plus, I've been around some guys in the game that had some better vocabulary than I did. So I've learned a lot from some good guys. So they've had some good rants, guys that basically are on the ice just for the rant and trying to get under guy's skin. So I've had a front row experience with some good rants on the ice that I've kind of remembered.

So I'd take that to the golf course. I would like to meet those guys. If there's another tier up from you, I would like to meet those guys. You think part of it is coming from a sport like hockey where you get pissed off in hockey, you can go hit somebody, go check somebody. You can do whatever. You can take out some aggression. And then in golf, if you do that, pretty much it's like counterproductive.

It brings you backwards. You notice like hockey players having a tougher time with some of that maybe? Because there's nothing to take it out on. Absolutely. I think we have a tough time controlling our emotions and trying to swallow what we just did and let it go and move on. We just want to figure out what happened. Why did it happen that way? Why did the ball go that way and fix it on the next shot?

And then, you know, you're a couple over. Then you want to get, you know, two under in the next two holes. And you're like, so it compounds. You know, the harder you press the game, the worse it gets. So you have to learn to relax. take the shot and move on. There we go. That's taking me like 20-something years.

There's some growth. There's some Mike Madano growth here. I'll see it. It's not happening a long way. We're coming a long way. I got to ask you this because there's a lot of quarterbacks out here, a lot of pitchers, and a lot of hockey players. Which sport produces the best golfers? It's hard to say.

I thought, I thought, I think pitchers right now out here, they're some pretty solid golfers. I mean, you got Glaven's pretty good. obviously Molder. Smoltz is good. David Wells. They got some good pitchers. Maddox used to really be a good player for a long time. So I think it's those guys. They'd play every six days in the summer.

They'd take their bags on the road. I mean, they got it made. A starting pitcher, that's the best gig in sports. It's the best. And so there used to be a handful of good hockey players. Brett Hall, you know, Jeremy Roneck, Joe Pavalski, who's here. Joe Sackett was really good.

Marty Bauder. A lot of good. Clayton Keller is good right now. Clayton Keller. A handful of guys that are really good players that would be, that could do something special out here too if they were here. Yeah, those are kind of the three sports that produce them. Do you have Brooks and Bryson getting a lot of attention right now with the rivalry, right?

That's a big deal in golf right now. You got one out here? Anyone, the guy you want to beat more than anyone? Maybe some side wagers. I think you always want to be the guy that, the leader in your sport. You know, so we only have two other hockey guys. But Joe's a good player. But, yeah, you always, I kind of always would like to, I think for a while,

I was finishing top 10, so a couple top fives. So it all comes down to the wedges and getting it close and trusting the greens. But, yeah, nice to slap Tony around a little bit, too. Yeah, you could use a little slapping. I have a long time ago. He could use a little slapping right now. You're a very competitive guy, clearly. But there's kind of two tiers out here when you get to this tournament.

There's the guys that kind of put their head down, grind, want to shoot a score, trying to win the golf tournament. And then there's guys that want to have a few pops, have a good time, and I don't really give a damn about what I shoot. I'm just here to have a good time. Where would you say you fall in that spectrum? I think as I've gotten older, I've kind of fallen in the middle. You know, I think my expectations totally exceeded my results all the time every year.

So I've learned to kind of pull back and just enjoy it. The weather, everything's great about Tahoe. It's beautiful here. Yeah, I've kind of learned to, you know, we're away from the kids. We've got five days going solo, which hasn't happened in about five years. So we're kind of sleeping in and enjoying that. So I'm kind of finding a good balance there. Yeah, a little happy medium.

Yes. Who are the guys that when you show up, maybe not your best buddies that you see all the time or play with, but who are the guys you look forward to seeing the most and catching up with, grabbing a drink, whatever, when you get here? Jack Wagner especially. I've seen Jack for years out here. I've started coming in the late 90s, and so we spent a lot of time together. Brian Baumgartner, good friend of mine.

We had a lot of fun here. So it's good to reminisce. You just see a lot of familiar faces. Joe Thysman. I mean, the list goes on forever. Derek Lowe, good buddy. Everybody just seems to pick up where we left off here. So always a good bunch of guys.

Ray Allen's a great, solid guy. I haven't seen Strayhan in about 10 years in the Hamptons. He's a good guy. He's a lot of fun. You recognize him this year with the teeth? He might be under the radar. I know, I know. But you can't miss Stray.

But, yeah, a lot of fun. Good dudes, so it's fun. I saw that Ray Allen on the range yesterday. I'd never seen it in person on video. I was blown away. And it's just like it's so smooth and silky. It looks effortless.

He was trying to explain power words yesterday on the range that he used when he did free throws. Power word? Oh, what's that? Like, makes your brain work? Yeah, trying to calm the brain. Dude, that's your guy. So I was eating off him.

Yeah, forget Rottella and all these Nitz. Go to Ray Allen. Rettella's out. Ray Allen. That'll get you correct. With all you've accomplished in your career, Would you feel like your career is not finished until you win an ACC title? All the points leading, all the Stanley Cups, is this the one trophy that's eluded you?

It is. It's the one that just grinds me every year. We've got to wait another 360 days for it again. So we just sit and just fester over it all year long. And then for two months you grind and think you've got it figured out. But yeah, it's the one that's eluded me forever. I would be content. I could finally fill that void in the trophy case?

Yeah. That's what you need is another trophy in there? All right now. You're going off, I believe, at 30 to 1. I'm inclined to put down a little wage on you. Good bet, bad bet for this lease. Mike McDonough, 30 to 1. It's a good bet.

Good bet? Yeah. Say no more. 31. I need nothing. This could be the year, dude. I got a good feeling about you this year. I'm feeling good.

All right, baby. Go get them this year. Thanks for the time. Thanks for the time. You got to do. We just got a quick picture. All right, we got 16-year MLB veteran, six-time All-Star, World Series champion, part-time actor on Always Sunny in Philadelphia.

Yeah, Chase Utley is in the house. How are we doing, brother? Been well. How are you? I'm solid. You got to start off with this always sunny deal, because I'm a huge fan of the show. They were loving you for years and years.

How'd that come about that you finally, like, went on a show? Love those guys. Randomly, they reached out and asked if I would go on it as long as Ryan Howard, and we were like, absolutely, we love the show. So we went on it, and the guys were great. They made us feel like we were in our element, which we were completely not in our element, but they were clowning around the whole time,

having a good time, made us feel at home. It was a great experience. I thought you had pretty nice acting chops for a rook up there. I mean, I don't know what I was doing. Everyone was laughing. Perfect. It's like this. Yeah, exactly.

Perfect. More out of your element. First tea here in front of fans. I know last year you played, there were no fans. I'll be fans this year. Or first time you stepped on the set for always sunny. Here. More nervous.

Here? Here. For sure. Well, you have the ability to actually hurt somebody here. True. A stray shot. Our producer almost just took a shot to the head from C.C. Sabath.

No. Justin Tuck. Yeah, literally went right, but you saw it? Yeah, he's near death. He still has a teeth. Near death. I know. Well, let's talk about your game.

What's the handicap right now? How much you're playing? Handicap is getting lower. It's four or five index, which is... It's good. It's decent, but I feel like it can get better. But again, you still have that crazy shot here and there that puts you back a bit, but I love golf.

It's so much fun. I like the competition of it. I like the grind and like trying to figure out different shots. I've played a lot since I retired three years ago, but not enough. I needed to get out there a little bit more. What's not enough? Nothing going on during the week, how many times you play? I think two or three times is a good amount of play.

Right now I'm at probably one and a half. We're getting there. And you play at Bel Air, right? Which is one of the best places you could possibly play. You got a good crew out there of guys you play with? Great crew. They like to have a lot of fun, beautiful course. It's a good time.

Yeah, there's no better place in the world out there. Well, tell us about your golf games. You're always considered like a hard-nosed, gritty, blue-call, whatever you want to call it on baseball. How does that translate to your golf game? It doesn't really translate at all. You're more pretty and just kind of... Definitely not pretty. Try to keep it in play.

That's my motto. It's actually funny. I batted left-handed in baseball, but I can't even hit a golf ball left-handed. That's what I thought. I golf right-handed, and it is what it is. I wish I could figure out how to go lefty, but I think it's a little late for that. Maybe, maybe so. Maybe a little bit.

Are you like a take lessons I want to give better work on it, all that, or you just go out and figure it out? I've taken a few lessons, one from Pat Perez. He gave me a lesson on a range. What better mentor than Pat? And he made it sound so easy and so simple as he's explaining what to do. And I go out and try to do it. And on the range, it actually worked. And then I try to implement that over the next week or so.

And it was a total debacle. Yeah. He's not going to overcomplicate anything for you. I think he was totally messing with me. Just teaching you all the wrong shit? I think so. I think so. That's what you want to do.

Well, what's your level? This is only your second one you've played. When you show up here, what's your level of seriousness? Because there's some guys here want to win the golf tournament, compete, post the scores, some guys just want to have fun, drink, get after it a bit. Where would you say you fall there? I'm kind of in between.

I want to try to do well. I know that I'm not going to win the tournament, but I also want to have a good time. So it's a fine line of mixing a good time with trying to play some solid golf and really having great interaction with the guys that either I've played with or know from watching on TV and get to meet those guys.

and get to meet those guys and pick their brain. It's a great experience. Who are those guys that when you show up here, I'm looking forward to hanging out with that guy who I haven't seen in a long time? I mean, last year I played with Jimmy Rollins, my ex-teamate, Shane Victorino I play with today. So seeing those guys who I haven't seen for a few years is nice.

You know, watching, play with Roger Clemens, who I grew up watching pitch. Greg Maddox, who I faced a few different times and also watched him dominate before I got to the big leagues. Those are just, to name a few. Does that give you more joy than anything? Is beating pitchers in golf that you used to have a hard time with when you were going up against him in baseball? I'm really competing against myself.

I'm not really competing against those guys. But it's always nice to get the upper hand. What about guys you maybe haven't met that you just see in the field like, oh, I'd really like to meet that guy. I grew up watching him or whatever. Or I love your music type of deal. Anyone that you want to meet? I want to meet them all. I want to meet them all.

Molder? Mark? I know Mark. I know Mark. No, I've met a lot of them and got to know a few, but I'm all ears. Yeah, all right, perfect. I want to talk you about your Long Beach Polly guy, which is maybe like the biggest sports factory of a high school in the United States.

If you had to put like a Mount Rushmore, we'll call it, like top four products out of Long Beach Polly, what would be the top four? Ooh, good question. Tony Gwen, baseball player. For sure. Doesn't have to be all athletes because you guys got a basketball. bunch of like entertainers. Snip Dogg went there. Cameron Diaz went to Long Beach Polly. That's all crazy too.

Nate D-O-D-O-D-W-G. You're probably a Nate Dog guy, right? Yeah, of course. Of course. Who else? Milton Bradley, who was a teammate of mine, a great baseball player. There's a ton of a ton of guys. Huge football factory. You know, good basketball program. Not the best baseball program, but it's getting better. Deshawn. Yeah, Deshawn Jackson. I mean, there's a million of them out there. There's just talent just in the water out there. Well, what's your goal with golf?

Like you're now retired, you're getting some time to play. You're playing a lot. Do you want to be scratch plus, contend and win all these things, or do you just want to kind of go out and enjoy it, have a good time? I like to continue to improve, and I don't know where that's going to go. Getting to scratch seems like a long way away, but I feel like I would put the time and effort into trying it. We'll see what happens. But one thing that I do, I'm not good enough to really get angry at my bad shots yet.

Once that starts happening, I think my tone of back. That's when you become a real golfer. I don't want to get angry. You don't want to? No. There's a tough game for you then. That's part of it. What's your strength?

If you had to say, these are my best aspects of my game, these are my worst. It depends on the day. One day the driver's working great and the islands aren't. So you are at golf. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And yesterday hit the driver great, couldn't hit my irons today. I couldn't hit the driver and I hit my irons well.

It makes no rhyme or reason. I wish I knew. You have any tips? Welcome to it. No, drink more. You know, forget it. Short memory. Be like a cornerback.

Just short memory. Ten second memory. Be a goldfish. That's a good one. Be a goldfish out there. Well, we appreciate you coming on, man. Enjoy it. If not, you can always fall back

on that acting career. Yeah, right. You know what I mean? I appreciate it. All right, good luck, Jay. All right, we got three-time ACC champion in the house with us here. A favorite on Golf Sub-Power podcast,

The Manchild, Mark Mulder. What's cracking, baby? Everything's good. I can't complain. You look good. Look a little skinny. Stop working out? Yeah, a week or two.

Probably consumed too many drinks this week. I'll get back on it next week. That can happen. Let yourself go for a week or 10 days or so. All right. I was looking at the betting boards coming in. You're the third betting favorite this week behind Romo, Marty Fish, then you. You're a three-time champ, though, only one of those, I think. Is that disrespect for the guy?

No, the last few years I haven't played all that great. Last year, I had never been more confident leaving that driving range. And I was talking to myself just saying that these guys have no chance. And two holes in, I was like, oh, man, this isn't good. And I just kind of struggled. I hit everything to 30 feet. And then when I did hit it close, I'd miss the putt. It's just the way it goes.

There's times also where I started the game and felt great. Three innings later, I got ice on my shoulder and we're down nine nothing. So this game is hard, man. It's not what I grew up doing, but I love it. Yeah, I've had some great warm-up sessions that would lead to horrible rounds and vice versa. There's no correlation there at all. But I mentioned the three guys that are at the top, you, Romo, Fish. If you had to go outside of that, that's everyone's looking at to win this thing.

Give me a dark horse. guy that's a little sneaky but's got the game to do it. Well, Smolz. And I say that. Now, this course doesn't really fit him, and he's told me that. So he plays a little draw. A lot of these holes go left to right. But there is no one in this field who wants to win this more than he does.

It kills him that he hasn't won this tournament. So I think there's times where he probably puts it on himself a little bit too much, and he admits that too. This is the major, dude. It is. We only have a couple of these, and this is by far the biggest. one and we're all in it to win it. And like you said, there's just a few of us that the top four or five guys, if one of us plays really well, that one will win. It's just the way it is. But Smolts by far is the one who wants to win this, who could be the one to do it.

He's good. Who knows? He plays real tournaments? Can peg it. Are you nervous? You've won this thing three times, clearly, but are you nervous when you step on the first tee here compared to like a baseball game or not? Oh, yeah. No. A lot of guys are really nervous. I was never nervous for a baseball game. I was anxious for it to start. So say it's a seven o'clock game. I'm there at the park at two. And you're just going, oh, five more hours, four more hours. And then I'd start my routine about two hours prior to game time. So then it starts going. But for me, the first tee shot, I'm still going to go tee it up. And I'm still going to be like that. But then once I get past that first hole now, I'm good. But you're like one of the,

maybe the best player here. The guys that aren't as good and aren't coming here necessarily to win, but maybe just have a good time. They got to be like fish out of water freaking out on that. And I talk to a lot of them about it. They're like, dude, what do you do on these first few holes? And then they actually get more nervous here on 16, 17, 18, which I actually don't. Now I'm in my round. The only thing that's tough about 17 is that you will hit whatever club you choose.

It will go further on this hole than you'll ever hit it at any time in your life. I have so much adrenaline on that T-box that I almost have to take a club or two less and then swing that. and just trust it that it's going to go, it'll go far enough. Yeah, it's like 16 at TBC Scott. Exactly. Every cat is like one less. Whatever it is, one less, because you're not used to having this all going. That's exactly right.

Well, how is your game right now coming in? You said last year you walked off the range thinking no one's beating yet. How are you feeling coming in? The last day or two that I've been here, I haven't hit it great, but leading up to this the prior month, I've been hitting it awesome. So we spend a lot of time, you know, at Pine Canyon and the elevation. So that helps with yardages. It's about the same 7,000 feet.

So I know how far each club is going to go. ish, but it's, you know, we'll see tomorrow. Like I could go out in this proean this afternoon and shoot a 65. It doesn't mean anything. That's the problem. So you got to get it going on Friday, Saturday, but I'm just anxious to start. And now you got a little internal competition within your own family. Your son coming up here, Zander, I saw broke the glass and the glass competition yesterday in five seconds. Tell me about this guy and how good he's coming up. Well, in the last couple of years, he's kind of become obsessed, which is really cool. We've been playing a lot more. But yeah, yesterday, I was supposed to go do a thing for the golf channel to

break the glass. Next thing you know, my son talked his way into it, and it became a father-son competition. Of course. We both hit our first shot. We both miss. And before I even pull it back on my second shot, he broke it. Yeah, he's got a quick trigger. Yeah. I mean, I don't move quite as quick as he does. That's my, I'll go with that excuse. But, you know, it's fun. I got to go in two weeks. He's going to play at Pinehurst for the U.S. Kids World Teen Championship. And I got a caddy. So that'll be nice and cool down there, do it. It'll be fun. I won't sweat at all. You can slim down finally.

It'll be fine. I'll lose a little weight. Yeah, it'll be good. Sweat out some of these demons. Yeah. Is he like, are you pushing him towards golf or baseball or does he care? We kind of let him do what he wants to do. He stopped playing baseball probably about six months ago maybe, which I'm fine with.

He loves golf. He's good. If a kid loves something, yes, I'd love to see all my kids play multiple sports. It's best for, I think, kids to do other things rather than just that, one thing, but for right now, man, he's 13. As cool as a dad, too, that can all, in a year or two, he might not even like golf anymore. Yeah. You know, and next thing you know, he's back playing something else.

So that's the way I was as a kid. I always thought when I was little, I was going to play basketball. You know, and then you slowly realize, hey, my feet and legs don't move like some of these other guys. You know, so that's the way sports go, and I just hope he enjoys whatever he's doing. Yeah, well, he's going to have some good genetics to work with. I'll say that. All right, you've won this tournament. Stableford System out here, you've won this tournament

on the golf side. If they were keeping score on the party side, just the guy that comes out here, Stableford System, who's winning this thing on the party side for the week? There's some guys that like to go? There are. Derek Lowe would be up there. He'd be a contender.

There's a handful of guys that aren't back in the tournament the last few years. Maybe they went too low away from the course. It can happen. Yeah, it has. It happens, so maybe that's why they're not here anymore. I'm trying to think who else. There's a handful of guys, man.

I mean, you see Kelsey and you see Mahomes, and they're living life. They go. They're living life more than I ever live life. Let's put it that way. So I just love seeing all these young guys and the current players, just how much energy they have. Yeah, I saw a couple last night in the casino that were buying for the title, for the early round, for the first round lead. They might be blowing it out a little too early. Exactly.

They might not be here to win the actual trophy. Exactly. But you got a guy here that's like, all right, you and Marty. Both very good players up here. Tony, you know, you guys are the ones that win and all this stuff. Do you have like a rival, a guy you want to beat more than anyone when you show up? I don't know. I mean, Friday, Marty and I are paired together again. Yes. We get paired every year, these last handful of years in round one.

And then obviously there's a good chance we're going to be paired possibly in round two or round three. So I just love playing with them because, in my opinion, Tita Green, he probably hits it better than anyone else here. Just as far as the look, he's left-handed. He just has a great swing. In past years, the putting would always get him. Last year, obviously he putted incredible. But just like all of us, that comes and goes. And so I just, I enjoy playing with him, and Friday, we're going to have a good time.

You like playing with the guy that's kind of the other favorite and seeing what he's doing? You want to see it. It's just like anything. I just, I don't care how great I play. I just want to find a way to get into that final group on Sunday. You just want to stare the guy in the eye. You just want to be there to maybe, whether you're in first or third at that moment, be in that final group, that way you can maybe scare them a little on that front nine.

That's all you're looking to do. I like that they actually pair you all together because more likely than not, you know, both you will be there on Sunday. Now you get to feel each other out, a little match play scenario. All right. What do you value more in your athletic career, your three ACC titles or your one career dinger in the league? Oh, dinger.

The dinger for sure, right? 100%. How far to go? Bomb or just creep over? No, it was probably three, four rows deep to right center field. I can send you a video. I'm sure I can find it. If you can dig one up.

If I could find one. No, it was just one of those. I mean, I hit all through high school and college, and I could hit a little bit, but it was one of those when I hit it, like, you didn't even feel it off the club, or off the bat. It just went, and I started just trotting. I knew I got it. Slowly as slow as possible. It wasn't that slow, but it was a pitcher slow.

Pretty slow. I knew I got it, but I thought it was actually going to go further than it did. I thought it was way gone? Yeah, I kind of did when I hit it. But earlier in the game, I actually hit a double off the center field wall, which I hit better than the homer. But so when I hit the homer, it was like, oh, okay, that's not the center, so I'm good. Yeah, you were like Shohei Okanee before him. Dinger, double in the same game?

Not even close, but in my mind I was. Right, we'll call it that. We'll call it that. Oh, man. All right, well, we appreciate you coming on. Go get that fourth title, dude. Cool, man. Thank you.

It's your time. Appreciate it. All right, we got one of the funniest men in Hollywood with us today. You know him from a million different films. You also know him as the host of a host of a podcast. Holy moly, Rob Regal, the legend. Come on. Good to be with your brother.

Nice to see you again. Nice to see you again, too. Tell me a little about holy moly, because it looks like y'all have a blast doing that thing. We have, thank you, and we do. We do have the most fun. Joe Testator is the best to work with because he is a legitimate sports announcer. This is what he does.

For 30, 40 years, he has been committed to the craft of calling sports. And then I interrupt his life, and I've messed it up completely now. but he's awesome to work with. When we're watching the players out on the course, we're watching a monitor. So we're improvising. We're just playing. We're just two guys enjoying what we're seeing. That was going to be my next thing. Is that all just like ad-lib and you kind of know that's mostly? There's no like, hey, run that back. I didn't like what I said or any of that.

Sometimes there is that if we mispronounce a word or something. But for the most part, it's in the moment. We are there. We are responding to what we're seeing. Now, there's a bunch of interstitials, they call them, where we, uh, I think I got the, you. I think I got that word. You lost me there, but we'll keep going. But basically, there's scripted stuff. There's a lot of scripted stuff. But it's like, hey, we're at holy moly.

This is what's going on. And da, nah, da, nah, no. Fine. But a lot of what Joe and I do is in the moment. And I think that's why it's so fun. It's because we enjoy each other and we enjoy watching the golfers. You need, as ABC, NBC, CBS, Golf Channel, anyone reached out and be like, dude, we need to get these guys at a real tournament.

I think it would be good, dude. The answer is, yes. Okay. So many people have grateful. I'm very grateful, by the way. A lot of people have been out on social media saying these two need to do this, this, this, or whatever the sporting event or whatever the event. Any of them? I'll do the inauguration with Joe. I don't care. We're like, we'll have a blast, I promise, whatever we're doing. That should be on the table. When they first brought this to you, I'm sure you get a million offers to do different things. And they bring this concept to you. I'm your agent. I wish that was the case. Are you starving for rolls right now? Yeah, you need some work? I eat what I kill. So I'm just. I eat what I kill. So I'm. I'm working. I'm hustling every day.

Every comedian and actor is hustling. Even the A-lister's, they're hustling too. Everybody's hustling. The grind doesn't stop. The grind never did. There's no finish line in show business. I thought they would just trot like eight scripts in front. You'd be like, no, no, shit.

Maybe. No, yes. God, I long for that day. I'll start reping you. We'll have a ton of different thing. But when they first put holy moly in front of you're like, hey, dude, here's the concept. It's mini golf meets wipeout. Were you immediately like, wow, that sounds great?

Or like, oh, my God, is this a real? No, I was, I was, I was instantly intrigued. Okay. I was like, oh, yeah. So, like, are we going to shoot them with paint guns? Are we going to light them on fire? It's a good idea. Are we going?

Where are we going? What's the limit? They said, stand by. We'll see what happens. So I was in. I was in from the beginning. And it's worked. It has worked.

Have you done any of the courses? Have you ever gone out and done it? I tried to get through them? No, it's easy for me to sit in the booth and laugh. Yeah. So much harder for me. to get out there's some I've walked all the holes yeah because we go out we look at and we get a feel for myself but I've never competed on them I've never done them I've

looked at the distances and stuff and I've been like I would be so in the water yeah in two seconds I've watched I've stood in front of the spinning blades on Dutch courage I'm like I'll never make it through this in a million years that could you could walk out of there a little I actually think a really great episode would be Joe and I doing it competing completely agree bringing some other things and then commentate you guys Exactly. Are you out here recruiting at all? There's got to be some. You know, there's some talented folks out here. You got some, I got a lot of good guys out here that I could count on to do it.

So, yeah. This is the rich grounds for recruitment right here. Yes, it is. You played a lot of likable, really funny characters in movies. I feel like you're kind of the guy you come in and bam, the movie lights up and things like that. When people see you out in public, are they expecting to get like the same, like the power or the in the face guy? Yeah, I think a lot of a, this is a, this is a curse for. comedians. Yeah.

Is people expect them to be on all the time. And it's just impossible. It's, it's impossible. It's impossible. You run out of juice. Well, you just can't. You know, you just can't entertain everybody all the time, unless you're manic and then God bless you. But it's impossible. So, yeah, it happens sometimes. They want that. What's the most common, like, line or catchphrase you get from one of your movies when people see you? Is there one that gets you all that? I get, I get pow. Yeah. A lot. I get in the face. I get not up in here. Not open. Yeah. Yeah, it's a good one. I get the F-N-Catelina wine mixer.

Yeah. All these are great, by the way. You got a lot. I do. The thing that scares me, though, is when I'm at the, in line at the airport and someone goes, pah-pah! Jesus, what the... So it's, you know...

TSA, where the hell are you about it? They sneak up on you. That's off-putting. Do you job. What's the biggest difference between... Actually, another question. When you see these scripts and you got the power, the in the face or the... Do you know as soon as you read it?

Like, well, this is going to be the one. This is going to be the one. dudes are yelling at me at the airport. Well, I came up doing improv and sketch comedy at the UCB Theater in New York, the U.S. Citizens Brigade Theater in New York. And I was very blessed that I had the best teachers in the world. I had Amy Poehler, Matt Besser, Matt Walsh, Ian Roberts. I had the best teachers in the world. So whenever I go into a movie or a television show, I improvise a ton. And a lot of those phrases are just improvised phrases. And so I don't know. when I read the script.

A lot of times I read the script and I'm like, this character, I can have a lot of fun with this character because I know this guy. I know how to heighten him. I know how to make him a bigger jerk or a bigger whatever. Yeah.

So. Like frat guy or whatever it is. Because comedy's all about heightening. It's all about heightening reality. You heighten it. So you have a jerk boss, you take a jerk boss and you make him a super jerk boss. So you have carte blanche to like,

all right, I'm going to go from here to hear and kind of tweak it. And still stay believable. Still say because, you know, anybody can go off the charts. You can go to 10, but then there's nowhere else to go from there. Yeah.

So it's keeping it in a believable space, but then making it... But amplifying it a little bit, yeah. Sure. With all the, like, awesome movies, all the fun movies, they look all like they're fun to make. What's the most fun you've ever had on a project? Oh, man. I mean, Stepbrothers is up there.

Yeah. Because we were all improvisers. We all came from the same background or school. So we knew how to play, and we knew how to riff, and we knew how to just make things happen in the moment. And if someone added lines or said something that wasn't in the script, we just, we knew how to react to it, and we knew how to play with it,

and we knew where they were going with it. So, Step Brothers, that happened to Step Brothers, other guys. It happened in other guys. 21 Jump Street, happened in 21 Jump Street, and the hangover. So, do you have, I got to imagine, like, the outtakes from some of these things. When you guys are trying not to laugh, or making each other love, got to be some of the best stuff. Do you guys keep all that? And, like, is that anywhere to be seen? If you look at the bloopers on Stepbrothers, it's so much fun. I had tears coming down my eyes at the Kallena and Wine Mixer, because my kids. character Randy is just a total liability to anybody anybody in Randy's life he's a liability

and so will Ferrell's character Brendan I'm supposed to be his boss right and I'm busting his beans I'm always making his life hell but I come up and I congratulate him on pulling off the Kelle and a wine mixer and then I say I don't know what is about your face right this is all because we were basically it was mess with them that was it just compliment him but don't make it a compliment it like really make his life hard. So I was like, I don't know what your face is bothering me. And I don't know what I want to do about it. And Will is the best in the business.

So he, think about if your boss came to you and said that. All you could do is react in a really sincere, honest way and be like, okay, all I can do is take that in and try to work on it. Because you're not going to say, screw you, you're not going to do that. Yeah, you're going to have to toe the line. Like in real life, that's why he's the best in the business because he was like, well, I'll work on that. I'll try.

I go, shut up because everything you say makes me want to hit you harder. Yeah. You know, we did all these takes. So there was one where I did that. There was one when I asked him, how do I get a body off an island? And he was like, is everything okay? I go, what do you write in a book? Just answer my question.

Yeah. Tell me out. You know, how do you get a body off an island? So we did all these takes that, you know, are on the cutter room floor. And the one that made the show was the one where I, or the movie that was the one where I wanted to punch me. They asked you like which one of these you guys think is the best? No, they just take the one. That's the director.

They have all that, even if you liked one more. I thought you should have used that one. Oh, that happens all the time. There's one that the actors love. Yeah. And then the director and the producer get to make the choice. Let's talk a little golf. Tell us a little bit about your golf game right now.

We need handicapped, how often you're playing, all that. Not playing near enough. That's always the case, right? It's feast or famine. Sometimes I'll play five times in a month. Sometimes I won't play for two months. It just, it all depends on schedule. Again, I eat what I kill.

So if I get a gig, I take the gig, and then I'm out of golf. I got a laundry list of excuses on why my body hurts and I'm a matrix of excuses on why my game isn't where it should be so I like to keep that intact but the good thing I learned about play because I've played in this tournament now for six or seven years the thing I've learned is nobody cares about my golf game just you

they don't care how I play the game they just want to know if I'm having fun and then they want to see me having fun and so I let go the first year I was like, I mean, grip pressure 10, you know, I was stressing over every shot, every punt was a, it was the master's. Give me a break. Nobody cares. No one.

No one cares. They just have fun, interact, do all that. You're the best. So a couple beers, a couple of octagoners. We're golden. There you go. Smart man. Who's a guy?

I've got to think you're probably this guy for a lot of people. Show up like, oh, I want to hang out with Rob. He's good energy. He's fun. Who's the guy when you show up here that you don't see a lot? You're like, oh, I can't wait to see that guy again. Oh, there's so many. Because it is kind of a group that they show up in.

It's the same group every year, usually with, you know, six or seven, maybe ten changes. Jay DeMarcus from Rascal Flats, we have the best time playing together. I don't know what it is. Sometimes you just click with people. He and I have the best time playing together, mainly because we relax each other and we don't care. Right. On the same wavelength. Larry the cable guy, always a blast to play with, always fun, love him.

And then I always like when I get to play with athletes that I admire, that I never get an opportunity to spend time. But today I play with Patrick Mahomes. What? Yeah. And Travis Kelsey. And Travis Kelsey. I'm from Kansas City.

Probably one of the greatest days of my life. Yeah. I mean, don't get me wrong. You've had some other good ones. You know, I love them too. Oh, I love you. But Patrick Mahomes is Travis Kelsey? You got to know him like a little while back.

Didn't you go play his event in Hawaii or something like? I did. Kind of befriended each other. We have. We've played here a couple times at the Tahoe. And he's been a great supporter of my charity event in Kansas City. I try to support his charity event, which we did out in Kona this year. So, yes, I've been fortunate enough to get to befriend him.

Is he as nice as advertised? You see him in interviews and things like that. And sometimes you don't know whether they're like, all right, they know the camera's on. And then you see him in real life and they're not that way. He seems like authentic. He's genuine. He's absolutely genuine. And same thing with Travis Kelsey.

They're very genuine guys. and I've been around everybody in this business and in this tournament. And they're the real deal. They're really great guys. He's good at everything too. He's one of those guys. I think you could give him a ping pong paddle and he'd figure it out in 10 seconds. That's the thing.

He wills things into existence. He wills them into existence. I've seen him do it. He stepped up to a par three in Kona and he goes, I'm going to birdie this. And he did because he wheeled it into existence. The money was on the line, but he does better under pressure. He's used to doing it. Fourth quarter, down whatever, and he's got the ball.

Last year, last year, we had money on the line. We were playing a game here. It was either the first day of the tournament, I think it was the first day of the tournament last year. I was beating him through 15 holes, right up to here. We came down 16. I went double, double, double. Perfect.

Finish like a champion. Finish like a champion. He went like par, birdie par. And won. He took all the money. And I was all the way up until then. It was match play. I had him.

And then he comes through in the fourth quarter. He comes through in the end. He's usually, probably wasn't sweating bullets coming down. The final fuels of this when he's got a Super Bowlender is, you know, probably not the biggest deal.

He had the ring. I don't say, I think like literally a day or two before he signed the big contract. So he was like, if that can't, if that doesn't take the nerves off from you, signing for whatever that number was,

which was large, then I think, yeah, that makes four footers become a little bit easier. Yeah, he was walking on Sunshine. Yeah, exactly. We're going to have another shot. getting them this week. Best of luck to you. Thank you so much for the time, my brother. Yeah, good to see you. Yeah, absolutely. All right. Well, Sleys, like I said,

arguably my best work I've ever done here on Golf Sub Park. Great job by you sitting down with all these guys. How much fun was that being up in Lake Tahoe? Dude, it's the best. I know you had to work that week next year. We got to maybe take the week off, do whatever you need to do because I don't know where you were, but it ain't as fun as Tahoe. I'll tell you that. The interviews are fun. Everybody's in pretty much a really chill mood. A lot of them there just to hang out, you know, hit some shots and have a good time. The casino scene at night is worth being at. There's a lot of action going down and there, but it's, I mean, the weather's perfect.

Everything's good. You got to be there next week because it is a, it is a time, I'll say that. You're telling me like Tahoe is more fun than John Deere. Is that, yeah, I couldn't remember where you were. Molina, Tahoe, ah, tomato tomato. It's a toss up there, but you can, there's some dudes that like to go, put the pedal down out there. And I was trying to keep up as best I could, but it's fun, bro.

we got to go next year for the full for the full lot yeah i know our guys that travis matthew took good care you there you got to hang on down the party bus i mean is there a better bus on the planet than the travis matthew bus no dude it's the best spot imaginable we're coming right off that they had two of them out there one was on 17 t the one we were on is on the walk from 17 green 18 t they had the hoop set up there if you saw like step fcury set curry all the guys that were shooting the shots going by that that's exactly where that was and then um you know you get guys like justin timber lake walking by and it's like like the president of the United States.

I mean, the security detail for a couple of these two. I was like, I dare someone, go try to touch Justin Timberlake right now and see what happens. I mean, guys, I'm like bulletproof vests looking like they're coming straight from a war zone out there. I was like, Jesus, all right, don't go near Justin. Well, listen, you mentioned that we both need to be there next year, but forget doing interviews. We need to get big time enough so we can play in this thing. Yeah, what's the define celebrity? Define, we need to get a strict definition on that.

because, yeah, the course is built for us, bro. Just got to hit it straight and then hit wedges. We would be solid. Sold. I can do that. Yeah, we will be solid. I'm in on that. But great job with the interviews.

That's really, really cool. So, these, we're heading off to Memphis this week. We're going to be sitting down quite a few players. Lucas Lover, Brian Harmon. We got Miss Amanda Ballionis. Join us for an interview and a few others. We're going to be working hard out there at the WGC. Back on our grind.

We're hitting the road. We're going to book a lot of these for you coming forward those will all be coming up shortly col i'm in memphis right now i just got here last night you'll like this dude so i'm coming in from kansas city for the golf tournament right uh it takes me a long time to get here but i finally get into memphis i'm getting in an uber i'm finally headed to my hotel it's like 1030 at night i'm gased i'm wiped you know from the whole day i get in the uber and i put my clubs in i put my bag in and i sit down and like you know a minute or two and the driver's like so you're here for the golf tournament and i'm like looking at my phone or whatever i'm not

pay much attention. I'm like, oh, yeah, dude, just in town for the golf tournament for the week or whatever. And so it stops for a second. He's like, oh, when's your caddy get in? And I kind of pop up. I'm like, oh, this do things I'm playing in this bitch. So I was like, okay. So I was like, immediately I was like, I'm going to pretend to be someone. I don't know who it is yet. So I was like, oh, yeah, you know, my caddy normally doesn't, I don't, I don't make him get in until Tuesday. I'm a day early. I'm just going to do a little practice tomorrow. And then he shows up. And he's like, so he doesn't travel with your clubs? And I was like, no, I brought him this time. Normally he does. As soon as he gets here, I don't

carry up anywhere, do I make my caddy do everything and blah, blah, blah. We start talking about the tournament the entire weekend. When I get out, he's like, uh, all right, Drew, I'll be looking for you this week. And I was like, oh, no, that's, that's just my name I use for Uber. I'm actually, my name's Max Homa. He's like, oh, okay. He's like, all right, dude, be looking for me near the top, man. I don't think anybody can beat me and all this. Like he's like, all right, yeah, I'll be, absolutely, Max, good luck this week. Nice to meet you, bro. So somewhere out there, there's an Uber driver looking for you, Max. I hope he shows up and goes up the back to be like, oh, remember me? I drove you the other night. He's been like, what the hell are you talking? Who the hell are you, bro?

Get out of here. Man, you're way uglier than I remembered you in my Uber. That's fantastic. All right. Well, it's time to get to the gambling part. We had this week off. We got to rest and refresh, get our minds right. And now with Fandul, we're going to start making our picks for the week. We got our one and done. And we're going to use all the odds from Fandul for when we make our gambling selections. The only place to bat. Absolutely, dude. All right, I believe, well, should we check in with producer Mark here, get a little update on the standings? You have the honor. There's no doubt about that.

But if you want to go over the standing. And the lead as we restart here is $1,260,587, in the honor. Yes. Okay. All right. You're still within a winner's check. That's the, you know, that's the zone I got to try to get out of. Well, shockingly, with the sleazy man, fan duo pick of the week.

I'm going to go with the guy, been okay around this joint. Daniel Burger, okay? Yeah. Two-time winner around here. 2016, 2017, runner up last year. And when you look at like his biggest tournaments coming in, seventh at the U.S. Open,

eighth at the Open Championship, he just seems like he's got it figured out and he's going back to a place that's, I mean, I think if he could pick a place to play and get his best odds, it would be TPC Southwind. So no surprise, I've been saving him. Daniel Berger stand, step right up.

All right. I like that pick a lot. He's going off at 22 to 1 at Fandor, which is pretty nice odds for a guy who has that kind of track record. I'm going with the favorite. I've been ice cold. If I bring this man down, it could get a little awkward.

But he's going off at 11 to 1 at Fandall. I'm going with Brooks Kepka. He's one around this golf course. It's a big time tournament. He's a big time player. Why not go with Brooks Kepka? Yeah, absolutely. You're only 1.2 behind.

I mean, there's a big person this one. At least no matter what, we're both getting checks this week, which hadn't been the case throughout the season. So we'll both be getting paid. That is going to be a nice one. But, yeah, it's crunch time, dude. This is it. or hold those fours up.

We got to go now. So you know the deal. But yeah, if you can drag Brooks down, then you're on a special type of cooler right now. Just two weeks left before the FedEx Cup playoff start. So I need a miracle. But hey, you know, never know. Miracle's positive.

Make sure you go check out all those odds at Fandu. I'll give you a few other guys I like based on their odds. You mentioned Daniel Berger 22 to 1. I'm a little concerned about picking guys that are coming from the Olympics, just with the jet lag and being tired in such a long week. But with these odds and this golf course, I really, really like Joaquin Neiman going off at 41 to 1.

I think it's, first of all, most golf courses are great for him. And Abe Anser, also 41 to 1. Some nice value there over at Fandulul. Abe Anser is just a machine. He's going to win something big soon. He's going to win something, period. I mean, he hasn't won on the PJ tour yet,

but it's going to happen. But those are two guys with a little better odds that I really, really like over at Fandle. Yeah, I'm very high on Ava Answer as well. Completely agree with you. His time is coming. One other guy I would throw into the mix that just hasn't played golf in a long time.

or bad golf in a long time. Louis Oostezen, doesn't play, you know, doesn't play all the time on the PCHO, but it seems to never really play bad, especially of late. So I think he's a very good value over there at Fandul as well. So check him out. All right.

Well, that's going to do it for us. Ladies. Hope everyone has a great week, and we'll talk to you on next week's golf subpar.