Subpar - Andres Gonzales Interview: Gambling in Vegas with Charles Barkley, why he started tweeting at Tiger Woods

Episode Date: January 26, 2021

On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar, PGA Tour veteran Andres Gonzales joins former PGA Tour pro Colt Knost and his close friend and on course rival Drew Stoltz for an exclusive, in-studio, interview. Half man, Half Amazing talks how he ended up playing at UNLV, his goal of making it into the top 50 of the Official World Golf Rankings, and his interesting night gambling with Charles Barkley in Las Vegas.

Hello world. Welcome to another week of golf subpar. Colt Nost and Drew Stoltz about to get amongst it. Slees, we got a young fellow winning on the PJ tour for the third time in his career. Siwu Kim is your champ at the American Express. Sea Wu, shaking that ass all over. PGA West out there. Man, what a performance. We had Fina, Homa, Sewu, all in the mix at the end. He had to fend off a little 61 from Patrick Cantlay. He had it going after making the cut on the number.

ended up finishing one show out of the playoff. But good show by Sioux selfishly. You probably feel the same way. I was hoping that Max or Tony would get that second win on the PGA tour. It would be a win for golf set park. Absolutely. It would be a win for us and it would be a win for them. And I know more than anything, Tony's trying to get that monkey off his back,

asking when he's going to win again. But sometimes you get beat. And Ceeoooo went out there 64 in the final round. Like I said, had looked up, been playing a great round of golf, looks up, can't like keeps birdying every single hole it felt like. And he had to go down and birdie too a little. last three to do it, hell of a show. Only 25 years old, too. It feels like he's been out there for ages. He has been. Yeah, it's weird. I mean, he's been out there seven years. But like you said, 23 under

par, once again, a crazy score to win a tournament. And, you know, I'm, I said this on our Serious XM show. I'm so tired of all these people complaining about the golf ball need to be rolled back. The equipment needed to be rolled back. I watched that golf tournament on Sunday, and I've played this golf course many of times. I know you've been there a few times as well. These guys have zero concern for the rough around this golf course of PGA's West State. medium course. Okay? You want to make this place tough? Penalized guys written it offline. I saw Patrick Cantley try to cover the bunker on 10, just blow it up in the rough because he didn't care of. Then he didn't have an angle. Number 14 is normally a position hole where you lay back and you have a

wedge into a small green guarded by a ridiculously deep bunker on the left down there. These guys, I've never seen these people do this. They just send it over the bunker on the right. It runs down, downslope. Sometimes it's in the overseeds. Sometimes it's in the dormant Bermuda Ruff. There's in the rough and they got 60-70 yards and they throw it up on the green. Like it's unbelievable to me how little driving accuracy matters now on the PGA tour. And then, furthermore, you go to number 17, Alcatraz. Supposed to be one of the hardest closing holes on the PGA tour. Island Green, what do they do?

They move the T up to 146 yards. Yeah, pitching wedge for most of those guys. I mean, I'm used to playing that 175 box. That's a tough shot. You get any kind of wind going, and that thing becomes a serious, serious pucker on that hole. I did not like for the final round moving up there, especially the way the scoring was going. I was like, are they not making enough birdies?

Do you want to just give them a wedge here on a part? par three with no win. Imagine being Siwa, I mean, a young kid, but he's won a couple times, but he's going for his third win. He's currently tied for the lead, walks up to 17, probably doesn't know, because he hasn't seen the T yet, walks up and he probably is like, oh my God, 146 yards? 30 yards up. I mean, that's got a, I mean, big sire leaping, like, okay, I can hit a wedger and nine iron

on that green, no problem. You could even see the sire leap after he hit it from 145 or whatever it was. He gave his club to vanish, and there was like a big exhale. Like, imagine that being 30 yards back. We have three more clubs, arguably, coming into that thing. I just think, I mean, the scoring's outrated. You said it if there's no rough, like there is it at PJ West. And it's a little different because it's a resort golf course, right?

You're not, it's typically, you know, every other week of the year, residents and guests are showing up and playing that thing. But the overseated rye is not, I mean, there's nothing easier. It's almost like a T for your ball. And even that dormant Bermuda isn't all that bad. But, I mean, you have rough like that? These guys are going to send it all over the place. We've been saying it for a long time. Forget the ball, forget the equipment, forget everything.

Grow some rough up, firm up, firm up. greens and these scores are going to come way way up well in my mind it's a lot cheaper and a lot easier to change the setup than it is the equipment and you're not going to have lawsuits from ball manufacturers club manufacturers all that but i mean you could just see with when the weather showed up the way it was it's like well get ready because you give zero wind dome conditions out there for these guys no rough i mean there you go 23 under 61 final round 64 matthew thompson's not 66 with a triple michael thompson i'm sorry michael thompson shot 66 with a triple on 13 uh he had it going crazy too they're just going to eat it up man i mean max

was tied for the lead going into Sunday and he made a double and a triple that week. I mean, he could have been running away with that golf tournament. Obviously, I had a bad Sunday. But hats off to see, Will Kim. Awesome, awesome victory. But I want to tip my cap sleeves to the European tour. I don't know if you've seen it. This video, they came out, angry golfers, little anger management class for six of the golfers.

They had Eddie Pepperel, Tommy Fleetwood, Terrell Hatton, Ian Poulter, Henrik Stinson. And the host was Tommy Fleetwood. but it was awesome. They do so many great things with their social media over there. I love it. Yeah, they're putting us to shame over here. Whatever it is, whoever's setting that up if they just grab their funniest guys

and say you guys come up with a format or a show you want to do and we'll do it or if they already have it pre-written and they just handpicked the guys. Whatever it is, it's working. I think the PJ Tour could learn a lot from the European Tour. They have some great characters over there,

but they get to show it off and things like that. We got some over here as well, too. That would be a 10 in that thing, but we don't do it. That's why we try to. bring them in here, let them get amongst it, show their personality a little bit, but man, I just, I love what the European tour is doing. I wish the PGA tour would branch out and let this go a little bit. You know, we don't have to be so buttoned up. It's a show. It's supposed

to be entertaining. When you're feeling glum, put up a thumb or something like that, yeah, pop up your thumb or whatever, and just the whole anger, the U.S. could definitely create a little rivalry with that they wanted. It's very entertaining. And speaking of entertaining, our guests this week, the one, the only, half man, half amazing, Andres Gonzalez is in the house. Dude, been looking forward to this one for a while. We were going to have him a few weeks ago when he was in town, but like, you weren't going to be able to get in the studio.

Like, this needs to be in person. There's too many good stories. We waited on this one for a little bit. And, I mean, we got some stories in the running for story of the year, I think at the end of the year from this one. This is the closest, I think we've seen to commie in terms of storytelling. I was going to say, it's not quite commie, funny level, but damn it, it's right below it.

It's real, damn. It is number two in golf subbar history. And I don't even want to spoil it. Let's just get right to it. Here's Andres Gonzalez on golf subpar. All right, ladies and gentlemen, all we have today is just one of the greatest human beings ever walk the face of planet Earth. He is PGA Tour veteran, corn fairy tour veteran, half man, half amazing, Andres Gonzalez. Welcome to the program.

Thanks, boys. I'm a little nervous, pretty excited. Let's get to it. We sit because Andres Gonzalez, you get your card at Q school back in 2010, was it? Yep. And you had a very interesting interview afterwards about the pronunciation of your last name. Can you take us through that a little bit? Yeah.

Last name is pretty basic, Gonzales, with an S. But I was asked how to pronounce it. And as a kid, my parents always called me Andre, but Andre is a French spelling of André. So my dad decided to name me Andres so that it matched my last name. and when I was asked how to pronounce my name, usually for all my friends, you guys call me Dre. And to men, I introduced myself as Andre, but to women, Andres. Yeah, sex it up a bit. Yeah, you got to that S on there. You might as well use it.

I feel like to this day, even you're like, we all call you Dre, but people that know you, one will say Andres and the next one will say Andre. Like still no one even really knows which one to use. It's still very, I accept both. And I still introduce myself as Andres in more formal settings, but it's always been Andre. That probably didn't happen until I was a professional golfer at 23 is when I started throwing on the S because it sounded kind of gruel. Really big in Mexico and South America, too. Super famous. They love you down there.

I remember we were playing the corn fairy event in Columbia. And they were like all chanting for you as you claim on the tea. Like you were a local. Man, I think that I get that a lot. You know, it was a little stereotype. I have a lot of greenskeepers around the South and people that maintain golf courses. I'm a local favorite. How much Spanish you know?

About not enough to order some food? You got interviewed at my one. Didn't you like we had the first round leader right up there in my Coba one year and they came in and started asking you questions in the press room in Spanish? And you're like, that was my rookie year. I was leading after the first round and I'm amped. I get invited into the media center. I get ready to have my one-on-one interviews with the media. and it's standing room only.

And when they started opening it... I'm a big deal. Yeah, I thought I was a big deal. Andres Gonzalez, yeah, I'm a local hero here from Washington State. And when they started asking questions, it was all in Spanish. And I immediately stopped and said, I'm going to need a translator. And at that moment, 90% of the room stood up and walked out the back door.

That is awesome. You could sit in the front row if you wanted to do that. I remember it that, but I forgot about that. That's so good. I forgot that was your rookie. Well, before we dig into your whole life with a fine tooth comb, tell us about this booze we got lined up here because we're drinking some special stuff today. Yeah, right now I'm drinking vodka.

I think you are too. I'm a part owner in a distillery up in Washington called Pursuit Distilling Company. And I thought I'd bring you guys some gifts down. We actually have a meeting at the end of this week tomorrow with a distributor here in Arizona trying to get into your state. Ooh, nice. As of now, we're just in Washington and Oregon. You're able to order on our e-commerce at pursuit distilling.com.

Good plug. Thank you. But, yeah, I just thought I'd bring some entertainment for you guys. It's very good. We appreciate it. First off, you're enough entertainment, but this makes it even better. Well, duh. But thank you so much.

But let's go back away because I think a lot of people don't know about the neck injury that you suffered when you were 11 years old, which ultimately led you to the game of golf. Can you take us through that a little bit? Yeah, man, you guys do do. So I broke my neck when I was 11 years old. And it was right before I was going into middle school. I was playing on playing football the next year.

I've always been a pretty big guy. I'm incredibly fast for my size. I can attest. So I thought I was going to run some people over once I got to middle school. But I broke my neck at the end of that summer. How? I jumped out of a boat into shallow water onto my feet. And when I landed, I thought it was about six feet deep.

So, I mean, I was probably five feet tall at the time. I thought I was going to submerge and bounce back up. But when I hit the ground, it was way sooner. And I thought my knees were locked and everything compressed. So it was a compression fracture on my C4 vertebrae. The hardest part, it didn't hurt as much as I would have thought that it would for a broken neck. I walked around for about three days. You know, I was with family friends.

And just the way I was raised with my dad, if nothing's broken and nothing's broken and nothing sticking out and you're not bleeding rub some dirt on it and get out there all right so i'm going on boat rides i'm just like taking it and finally the people i was with they're like we need to take you to the hospital and they did it and like yeah you cracked your uh vertebrae in three spots hey dad how tough am i you're right yeah i'm running around dad that was kind of the first time i ever saw my dad cry though when i when i was in the hospital uh i had a full halo so i still have screw marks from in my head and in the back. But football wasn't really an option after that.

Otherwise, I'd probably be in the league. Goes without saying. No, fact. But I picked up golf and loved it. Was golf even on the radar at the time? Are you just everything else? I had golf clubs, but I didn't really play for two years prior than that. I was the kid.

I started probably when I was eight, but I was the kid that threw tantrums on the course and was crying half the time. ball was in my pocket and not that that's that much different than today. I play now. Right. Whatever. You're the happiest man on the golfers I've ever seen. I'm trying to be.

But you know, you grew up in Washington State and which is not really a hotbed for golfers, you would think. But out of one golf course, you've got you, the Putnam brothers, Andrew and Michael and Ryan Moore. Kyle Stanley is also there. We had Troy Kelly who just retired. But we, we, we, we, we, coma, golfing country club. That's unbelievable.

You've been. Yeah. It's unbelievable. It is good. I love that place. We just took a lot of guys from that area, and it was nice to have that going. You know, that's one of the reasons I was able to move back home to Washington.

I lived in Vegas for 10 years during college and a few years after. But once my wife and I started talking about having kids, we're like, we've got to get back up to Washington and be around our support system. And it was really nice. But recently it's been a little bit hard. Michael Putnam's been battling into. So he hasn't been playing that much. Andrew's up there. Kyle lives in a different city in Gig Harbor, and he's just not there that much and kind of keeps to himself and other guys have retired. So it's kind of me up here. I just have been talking to my wife recently about trying to get a place down here because you guys are here. What else you need? We're great influence. What else you need? Well, you're retired. I'm not really talking about you. I'm not talking more about Drew, you know, my best friend over here. But what else do you need? Yeah. There's so many pros down here. I mean, it doesn't matter if it's here.

or Las Vegas or somewhere in Texas or Florida. Florida, I don't really have a need to go. There's too many bugs and humidity. I sweat enough as it is. You know? I know. I've seen it. I can relate.

Let's go into college. Because you mentioned you lived in Vegas for a long time, but you started off at Oregon State. It was a short-lived tenure up there at OSU. You want to talk about what went down up there? You don't have to get specifics, but it was a one-year one-and-done. We could get specific if you wanted. I got kicked off the golf team.

Asked to leave, maybe. Yeah, politely. Yeah. Hey, maybe you try somewhere else. I had so much fun. This has actually been pretty much the downfall of my career, not that point, but any time when I'm having a good time and I can maybe take it sometimes a little too far and have too much fun. But I had a great time there. My experience there was awesome.

Our football team was preseason ranked five in the country. And, you know, Ken Simonton and Joey Harrington were on the cover of Sports Illustrated, Harrington being quarterback at Oregon, and Simonton being the running back at Oregon State. And our first four games were at home, and we won every game. And I had a ball. I was in the dorms with one of your past guests, Derek Anderson, got to know him pretty well.

His buddy Swancutt. Stephen Jackson was in the dorms with me, and I thought that I was on Cloud 9. I didn't really go to school that much. My first class I walked into was a 600 person lecture and I said, nope. You'll never know. I'll probably don't need to come here again. You guys don't look like you need me.

Right. Yeah, so I was asked to leave the team probably right after, right before spring break. And from then on, I was starting to look at places of transfer. And golf still wasn't really a huge priority at the time. It was, you know, I'm in college. I'm good enough to be in college, but professional golf wasn't really a thought. And I transferred to Las Vegas and telling my parents I was going to transfer to Las Vegas after getting kicked out.

I'm going to go to Vegas to get my shit together. I'm going to really clean it up. I'm going to go to Vegas. Yeah. My dad wasn't super excited about the deal. That is hilarious. That's where a lot of people go to clean it up. The best part was is that when I drove into town, I had my mom in the car with me.

She helped me take my car down from Washington. And when we got there, it was like midnight. And we had to cross the strip to get to where my rental place was. and my mom as we're crossing the strip every lights flash and everything's going my mom's thinking oh no what are we doing it's in a crack head to a crack house you'll be fine in here yeah but you know coached there dway night i'm guessing probably set you set you straight what was it like playing for him it was the straight and arrow man that was the best thing that could have happened for me i went down there i'm not going to say that i got on the straight and arrow real quick because the first

week I got to school I was arrested you got a easier way into the straightened out you don't just dive in right well like I got I got to school I went out with the team to a football game and like I'm having vodka right now because you talked to my wife earlier whiskey's kind of my kryptonite even though I love it she said she she needs to be there if you're gonna drink whiskey brown water is different Dre comes out this is a that's a magic concoction for me. But I wasn't allowed in the game because I was too intoxicated and underage. I was like, what are these guys? No, I'm going to go over here. I jumped over the fence, like 10 feet away from

the front gate. I get in there. Cops start coming after me. Like I said, I'm pretty fast. So I started running thinking I'm going to get away from him in the crowd. And if you've ever been to a UNLV game, there is no crowd. A little different than Oregon's saying. Zero people. So it wasn't really hard to find me. They tackled me the ground. I decided to give him my fake ID. Another good move. Right. So at the end of this, I was charged with trespassing,

evading police, minor in consumption, and giving false identification. It happens. You were young. My dad came down and he was so mad. I had to decide a contract with my coach and my dad. I wouldn't miss another class for the rest of college. I wouldn't be late for anything

and I wouldn't get below a 3.0. If any of those things happened in the next four years, I was gone. And Ryan Moore was kind of the guy that vouched for you basically to bring you to UNLV, right? Ryan is one of the biggest influences I've had in my life as far as golf. One, he was always the best. So when I got to school, I was thinking, oh, this is cool. Ryan's really good. But Ryan actually got me out of trouble there and took me home.

And that's still to this day, Ryan's pretty straight and narrow kid, good guy. and he threw every swear word in the book at me on the way home there and I was scared. It's the only time I've ever really been scared of Ryan except for on the golf course and like every day in college. I was terrified. That was the turning point when Ryan said. Didn't you have to sign a contract with Ryan? Didn't Ryan make you sign one too?

No. Like we had a verbal agreement just as far as he vouched for me and I was put I was putting a tarnish on his name. That's cool. You know, I mean, dude, it was. Yeah. Yeah, he kind of... It was an awesome thing.

And just living with him, I, from that point on, for the next four years, I tried to do everything that he did. I practiced with him. We lived together. I signed up for the same classes as him. And whatever he was doing was working, so I'm going to do that. And shockingly, that's when you started to get a lot better and started to play really well. As weird as that works out. Do everything Ryan does become a lot better.

I got to ask you one more thing about Vegas because I was told by a friend I should ask this, how the camping in Vegas is. you're not allowed to do it. That's the one thing you can't do in Vegas. Gosh, we're getting a lot of stuff out here. So, yeah, we're going to go. We're going to go. About a month after I got married, I got through first stage of Q school. This was 09.

And I went back, and this is the only time in my life that I think that something was actually put in a drink of mine. Because I can get after it. But I, something happened in a very short amount of time on Halloween night where I went. out and I ordered a cab and I fell asleep on this bench waiting for the cab. I called a couple roommates to see if they were going to come pick me up. They didn't want any part of that. It was too late.

And I fell asleep on the bench and these cops woke me up and said, sir, you can't camp here. And I assuming I probably got a little mouthy, I'm like, look at me, I'm dressed to the nines. I look dope. I thought that's not a natural. I'm not camping. So that was from Bill Lundy. He goes,

just ask him and see how far he'll go with this story. Oh, yeah. So I I got I had no idea what happened by the way Oh I got arrested for camping For camping in public So I had TSA pre-check and global entry and everything Whenever I'd come back into the country from any golf tournament They'd look I'd have to stop and I'd get this big X on my ticket

And they'd look at me and like camping in public And I'm like I know right Where else do you camp? In Vegas where you can walk down the street with an eight ball And they'll probably be like all right keep it moving Right But no camping No sleeping on a bench

That was maybe the most humbled I'd been in my life, though. So I'm in this eight by eight foot cell. I will never forget this guy's name, Diego Rodriguez. He's in a wife beater. Any relation? Everywhere. Shaved head. Just a dude.

And he asked me what my name was. And I did it like I told the girls. Andres Gonzalez. And he's like, okay. Yeah. Whatever you say, guy. And we were cool. So we were in there for like 16 hours hanging out.

And we're about hour 13. And I don't know. You guys are pretty clean cut guys. You probably never been in jail. I haven't. Not yet. There's a steel toilet in the middle of the room. And we're about 13 hours in.

I got a shit, man. And I look at this guy. At front of Diego. Oh, my gosh. I'm like, Diego. I'm sorry, dude. I've been holding it for like the last four hours. He's like, I get it, man.

I mean, this guy knew everybody. He knew all the guards by name. Yeah. He'd been in here before. He's like, yeah, I get it, dude. You gotta do what you got to do. And it's the most humbled I ever been. I was just sitting down three feet from his face, pinching one hot. Oh my God. If that doesn't humble you right there, just, oh my gosh. Jumping in front of strangers. Yeah. I don't know what it'll do it. We got to, I don't smoke cigarettes. We got out of there and he started, I mean, it's like what you would see in a movie. You get out and we sat there and it's kind of bright out because we've been inside. He starts packing these. cigarettes and I look at him give me one we sat there and had a cigarette together and went our separate ways what was Diego in for you're no idea not camping not camping in public I've seen enough movies that you don't ask that you don't ask that you're going to be like camping yeah murder yeah murder dog murder was the case that they gave me but I'm innocent of course

I'm innocent oh that's an incredible story we are you going to pro right now I'm I want to go one more story because we were talking about Coach Knight earlier and like how tight he is and how no one talks back to him. It's just his way or no way, basically. The only story you've ever told about a guy that I've heard talking about to Coach Knight was Adam Scott when he was there during his brief time. Can you quickly tell that, or you know, I'd be quickly, but tell the Adam Scott story right before he left. Yeah, so. This is funny. This was our coach, you called him Coach Knight. Coach, you did not call him Dwayne. Dwayne is his name. You did not call him Dwayne. And you just

showed him respect. which I get. He's the coach, we're the players, and that's kind of how it was. But there was a story at Lele Hua in Hawaii, DeStef won one year. And we, the way he tells the story is that Adam gets on, and our biggest thing with Coach Knight is, I'm a great putter. I'm a great putter. When he says, what are you?

He doesn't want to know what you're at. He doesn't want to know how you're feeling. He wants you to say, I'm a great putter. which I think is why everybody can pretty much roll it from there. But on the 11th hole, it's a par five. Adam hit it on in two. The next hole's a par three, and coach is always waiting on the par threes to kind of talk about numbers and whatnot.

But he hits it on the green and he three putts for par. And when he gets up to the next hole on the par three, Coach Knight goes, hey, hey, Adam, what are you? He goes, I'm for fucking over, Dwayne. And he's like, that's, that's, that's, that's, That's when I knew that was probably he wasn't going to come back. And that was his last tournament. You and OV played a year and a half.

Last term in the fall. Next year he was pro. And I think he's done all right. I'm still fucking over. And a year from now, I'm going to have a private jet. See you later, buddy. That's awesome.

But you turn pro and you played kind of all over. Like Canadian tour. You played a Canadian tour. You played a Korean Ferry tour before getting your PJ tour. Play that here a bunch. Like this is how I got out to Scottsdale originally was just playing Gateway. I'd come out and play the winter series because there was nothing else to play. first year I got corned fairy status was 08 you and I went to Q school together we did

a lot of fun that Q school sucks actually but yeah I mean I it wasn't that much fun I finished 122nd I had zero not very good status so you went on you've won twice on the corn fairy tour I mean you've had success at everywhere you've been you played 128 PJ tour events I mean it's been quite a ride who's counting 128 I looked it up whatever I looked it up I got you bud but you got Like that going back when you got your card at Q school for the first time, I know you're a big emotional guy, even though you like to try to be all, look all tough and everything.

He's a teddy bear. I'm a teddy bear. I cry. I know. At rom-coms and Disney movies, but we'll get into that later. Homeboy will not hesitate to shed a tear quick. But let's talk about that moment at QSchool

when you get your PJ tour card for the first time. Elated. That was my fifth year as a pro, and I couldn't have been happier. I think. think the best thing that I have going for me in golf is my attitude and self-belief. And I think that there's a lot of guys that may look at me and just like, I've seen my swing on video.

It's not like super pretty. But I feel that my self-belief and ability to get the ball in the hole has carried me a long ways. And I feel so fortunate as far as I've been able to do this. for 15 years now. Never really had a job. I've been able to hang out with my family and meet you guys. Like, we've become really good friends.

And it's, golf's been an absolute blessing for me. It's been awesome. No doubt. I mean, I've always said you have the best attitude I've ever seen on the golf course. And you're one of the streakyest players I've ever seen. And, like, is being streaky, does it bother you?

Or does it excite you knowing that at any moment, a good stretch of golf could be coming? Both. I try to not have it bother me just because I know that it's in there, but it does bother me knowing that it's in there that I haven't done it more. But knowing that it is in there, I keep tweaking this formula in one of these days, I'm going to be streaky for a long time. I mean, I would just laugh going down fairways and be like,

you'd miss four or five cuts in a row, and then you look up on Saturday, there's Drake, up there in third place. Yeah. Maybe he has a chance to win. Yeah. That's what I want to do. That's what I'm trying to do is winning. That's what I'm saying.

I want to do it more. You're like, oh, shit, I've missed five cuts and rope. You know what? I might win next week. Yeah, and the more and more I get into the position, the more and more comfortable you feel. I'd like to be in the position more, obviously. But, you know, the best thing that I can do is just keep playing.

I'm having a ball. I have a wife that supports everything that I do. I'm down here alone. And there's been times when I'm at home. She's like, what? Why are you not playing this week? Perfect. I got the good one.

Yeah. Yeah. And speaking of like the being streaky, I think part of that, like Cole Lut too, is your mentality, is your attitude, how positive you are. No matter what you've done, if you miss four cuts in a row, the next week you show up. And you're always like, I'm going to win this week or I'm going to play great. Is that something that you, like, is that natural or is that something that you had to develop over time, like having that pot because so many golfers are the opposite.

Right. I think they, I think you develop it. but at the same time I think that the thoughts that my parents put into me as a kid was you can do anything you want to do you can do anything you want I don't care if you play golf I don't care if you play football do you want to be a dentist do you want to be a contractor whatever you do try to be the best at it and take every positivity every positive aspect from it away from it but you had a guest on here a couple weeks ago. Harry Higgs.

That guy is very, whenever, when I was listening to him speak, we think very similar. There's parallels there for sure. Yeah. I was going to say. We work out the same in a number of ways. Yeah, you guys do the same fitness guy. You got the same brain. But I mean, all this positivity, can you remember a time? I want to know like on the PJ tour like the maddest you think you've ever been. Oh yeah. It was after Drew's wedding. We got to get into that a little bit.

But that, let's just save that whole. But the week after was Tampa. Yeah. And what did you do? I shot 83.79. I think I finished close to last. But like I said, I was emotional. Like, walking up the 18th hole on the 30 on Friday.

What the hell am I doing here? I don't know if I've, I don't know if I got it. That's the baddest you've ever been? Yeah. Oh, my God. Teach you some things. Yeah.

But so mad as far as like frustration, like tears are kind of welling up in my eyes. I get mad in a different way. I'm not going to break stuff. Like one of your guys in your dream for some is Spencer Levine. He takes his anger's a little bit. Yes. That's entertaining. Yes, it is.

Yeah. For us. I don't know if it is for him. I don't think it is for him. God, he's a beauty. The higher level you get, guys just don't really freak out that much. So when you, at the level that I'm playing at now, when you get with somebody that is freaking out. It's kind of exciting.

I was like, do it. Do it. Do you want to see it because it's so rare. It takes a lot when you play golf for 25 years. Just like this dude's about to lose his mind. And it's like golf and a show. Dinner and a show. There's a few guys that you can, like you can see it building, Spence being one of them. And it's Spence had a hair trigger. Matt Every. Matt Every was a fun one. Yeah, there's a few out there that. But as you get older, I feel like it's more and more rare to see it. It is rare. Just because the young kids. Everybody, everybody, Everybody knows that it's not.

And even to this day, Spence isn't near what he was when we were in college. He was on in college. We got some good Spencer stories out there. But staying on your, I want to give you a huge compliment here. And it's kind of related to your attitude. I think you have one of the classiest moments that I've ever seen in sport, not just in golf, but in sports. And it was when you were playing, what year was it? The final round of the 2013 web.com tour finals, you were playing with Lee Williams.

And the final hole something took place. Can you walk us through that? Yeah, I didn't get my tour card. Yeah, but it's how you handle it. He made about a 60 footer. You remember that? Give kind of like the background for that because, I mean, it was, it was a tense of pressures you can have in golf, in my opinion.

Yeah, so we both knew we were playing pretty good and had a chance. And we were playing together. We're walking up 18. I've known him since Junior Golf. But as we're walking up, it's corned ferry tour. There's not a lot of leaderboards out there. We know that we're probably. right there you can kind of always sense on just how you're playing and how the course is playing

and he hit it to about 60 feet i hit it to about 18 feet i was like all right we just need to we need to give ourselves some looks and we both did his wasn't quite as good the final round apparently yeah final round of the final event right your tour car and you guys are bubble i think i was like after the fact i learned that i was 37s on the number before and then he made his putt which was 60 feet and i was amped for him i was like yeah dude now i'm going to make my put we're both going to get our cards we're going to go celebrate we're going to be kings of the world but i didn't make my put and i ended up finishing 51 out of the 50 that got their cards and when we went in

I was watching Andrew Loop Andrew Loop needed to bogey the last hole and he did it like eight feet by and this is this is maybe the most irritated I've ever been with any media person I'm including you guys as media people that's fine that's right there

so I'm journalists yep I'm in there in the meeting or in the interview and Loop hits it eight feet by and they cut out for commercial break and Kelly Tillman's doing it and she looks at me and she's,

He goes, it would really make for great TV if you root it against him here. And I have my mic and like, what? Do you know who I am? I don't do that. No, I'm Andre's. Do that? So we get up on the, immediately she goes, and we're back. I was like, okay, we're right here.

And I'm just sitting here. This just affects my life, Kelly. This is just literally the most important moment in a golfer's life is all. Right. So he makes his eight footer. I'm super pumped for him, too. He and I are friends. He's never been on tour before.

It's his first year. And it was a sad thing, man. I cried after that on the way. It's like a thousand yard walk back to that parking lot. If one of them misses, you get your tour card. Right. If you dodge a 60 footer and an 8 footer. Either you need one of the two.

It's a 99.something something percent probably. But the thing I remember most is when Lee Williams made that putt, which is just impossible put for him to make in that situation. You guys both knew you're right on the bubble, you know, needed something to happen. Obviously it wasn't impossible. He made it and he's walking up to get his ball. And you walked by before you hit your, your put and you gave him like a fist bump.

I was like, dude, here's a guy that knows like that might bump him out of getting a tour card. I didn't know that. But it was in the realm. Right. Maybe if I knew that. Kick him in the nuts.

Hey, you son of a bitch. But I do that, like, we talked about it. We hung out the whole day. We were having a good time. I've known him since we were juniors. It was,

I was pumped for him. Like, I want to make the putt too. But pretty cool to make a 60 footer to get your. Yeah. I mean, that's a story for him. He'll never forget. But when you're on the other side of that thing, it's a, I mean, it's easy to be, like, bitter and that.

And you were the opposite of that. You're like, congratulations, congratulations to Luke. I went up to him in the parking lot afterwards, and he was putting his stuff back. I mean, obviously very excited. And I pulled my car up, getting ready to fly back to Washington to play the corn fairy tour for the rest of the year. And I look at him, I was like, probably think you're a pretty big deal right now,

don't you? Awesome. You're cool. I'm going to have my buddy Diego Rodriguez. Have your head. But, you know, you played out on tour for quite a long time, and I feel like people really got to know who you were. Not only one, because of your look,

you got a little different look than most of the golfers out there, but also you're tweeting at the Great Tiger Woods. Yeah. First off, we've got to talk about this. How did this idea even pop into that beautiful head of years? I had my oldest childhood friend, her last name's Kenny now, but her name was Ella Smith.

Ella Smith Kenny is her name. But she went to Yale, played softball. We went to the same high school, grew up together. Smart girl goes to UNLV to get her graduate degree. Nerd. Yale. To you and LLV. Yeah.

Total. Get it. But it's a graduate degree, so you're like, yeah, all right. So you're still smart. But she rented a room for me in Vegas or from my parents, condo. And whenever I'd come back from a golf trip, we'd usually go out and have some beers. and this girl could hang. And I was like, all right, this is cool.

So it was right when Twitter was coming about, and we were talking about it over beers. And I was like, hey, I don't really even understand this. Why does anybody care what you did today? Why should anybody care? And she goes, well, you're actually a perfect example. And now that you have your tour card, people want to know what you're doing

or why, how did you get to where you are or whatever? She goes, you should just think of something funny to do. Like what? I had a peanut butter and jelly sandwich for lunch. tell them what I had for lunch every day. She goes, you should tweet Tiger Woods. And I was right here. I was like, yeah.

I like this idea. Boom. That's a good idea. So what was your first tweet to Tiger Woods? Hi, Tiger. My name's Andres Gonzalez. I'm a rookie on the PGA tour. My favorite color is green and I love elephants.

That's good. That's good. Come out the gate's hot. How does he not respond to that? He never responded to him. I know. How did you not respond to the first one? I don't know, man.

He was a little flustered at the time, I think. He had some things going on, perhaps. But how many throughout the years, how many tweets do you think you send him? Maybe 60. And no response. No response. Where's his PR team? That would be good for him.

I don't know. I talked, when he was working with Sean Foley, Sean came up and, like, he knows about it. He thinks it's funny, but he thinks if he responds. I'm like, he doesn't think. Yeah. Did you ever see him, though, out there, like running a tournament and be like, yo, maybe, maybe fire one back one time? No. The only time that it really happened, because I was playing.

I got off the Canadian tour So I was playing the B schedule Of the PGA Tour And he was playing in the World Golf Championships The majors, everything, right? I think he's exempt, right? Yeah, he's got some status. Yeah.

So I'm playing on the super Low-Level PGA Tour? There's no low-level, but yeah. It was still sick. You're not picking your schedule. I was amped. You're playing a little just a different schedule. Different schedules.

That's, thank you. Not thought, yeah. Media training. So, yeah. different different media training so we're at the fries in where was it corrigan hill cord of all yeah morgan hill right is that the town no it's outside of anyway court of all in california and tiger's plan and so i'm sitting there with jim renner and kevin kisner and i think ben martin and tiger walks in and everybody's eyes i could feel in the

entire place because this thing's been going on for the whole year. Like once a week I'd send them something. Hey, we should room together. So you don't have to spend as much money. You know, maybe you want to cut some costs. And he came in and I looked at him and every, I could feel every eye look over to me and I froze like a little bitch. I just sat there. I put my head down. He left the room and everybody looked at me and was just like, what do you do? I was like, I didn't even see him. What are you talking about? Tiger's here?

Where? Yeah. Didn't you ask him to play the New Orleans team tournament? Yeah. Ooh, that would have been a good team. Maybe later on. It was kind of after I stopped it. But, like, that was 2011.

The team tournament, I think, started in 13. That's great. I settled with Bon Taylor. No interaction, no conversation. Was there any words exchanged between you and Tiger the whole year? Have you ever even talked to them? I've talked to him before, but it was. super brief.

I met him when he trained with our trainer at UNLV, so I got to meet him there. He wouldn't, if I said I was on the UNLV team when you came in, he'd be like, oh, yeah. But no, that year, it was easier for me to be on the outside tweeting in, but when he actually came, I was like, oh, I'm going to swallow my tongue.

Like the hot chick at prom. Oh, my gosh. Everyone breathes the first time. He buckles them. You need to fill you up, bud? You need another splash, buddy? Not quite. Okay.

Let us know. We got a few nice bottles. That's what I was saying. I was like, how much are we going to get through here? We can get as much as you want. When you get your tour card back at the end of this year, are you going to, are you going to start? Because he's changed since then, dude. He's taking Justin Thomas under his wing.

He's more media friendly. All the stuff. Are you going to start firing those off again? We'll see what happens. Once I get my card back, we'll talk. But I'm telling you, I'm not, I'm not the guy that's getting up at 6, 6.30 to go play a practice round whenever he's planned. I've seen young guys that go and they'll wait on the T-box and just want to play with Tiger and he's very cool about it. But I like to sleep, man.

Yeah. That's why we're good roommates, your wife says. Yeah, I like to get 10. But if she says 12, well, I got to bed at like 9, 9.30. This is why we were a good roommates. It's like you want to tee off like 2.30 tomorrow? Sleep till noon? Yeah, bud.

I do. Yeah. Perfect. Let's talk a little bit more about your golf and then we'll get into some fun stuff, though. You're 37 years old now. what do you want to accomplish in your career before you're all done? I want to be top 50 in the world one time. And then once I get that, I can readjust some goals.

But top 50 is, that's been my goal since I started playing. I mean, you work extremely hard at it. So, I mean, you obviously still believe that this goal is very attainable. I still think it's attainable. And I 100% think it's attainable. As far as, like you said, I'm streaky. I'm like, there's got to be a formula where I can figure out how this can happen more. Well, you got to get all your shitty golf out of the way at home.

Yeah. So play really bad for a week. Maybe if you move down here, you dump off some money to Slees and I. That's what I do. Mental coaches. I know. That's what I do. Yeah, top 50.

That's my. That's cool. That's my goal. If it ended today, would you feel satisfied with everything you've done in golf? No, but I'd feel super. blessed. I, you should. I've played five years on the tour.

I've made a career of it. I've never had a job. I'm here sitting out with you two working. This is a job. This is real life, bud. It's really stressful too. It's super hard work. I don't wish this on anybody.

Right. But my folks always wanted me to do what I wanted to do. I thought when I turned 16 I got a car My parents gave me a car and I had a license I was thinking I was going to go work bag room at my club So I could make a little bit of a little bit of money And my dad said well do you Are you thinking you're going to play college golf?

Yeah Well that's your job That's awesome And he was very very supportive Of me doing that If that's what you think you're going to do Then that's what you're going to do I will support you.

You're not going to live flush, but whatever you think you need to get there, I will help support that. That car, the caddy, you still have it? Nope. You had it for so long. How many miles were on that when you got rid of it? 237. Dude, this thing was legendary. The clothes rack in the backseat.

I was living in Vegas driving over here for mini tours, and I would just go back and forth. I'd come over here play one event I'd drive back home for three days Big body caddy You knew it when it was blowing up Dreys in the building That thing was real You may have answered this

But you've played golf for so it's basically 11 When you first started college amateur pro All the stuff Does golf feel like work now Or do you still wake up excited to play And to go to events I think it kind of for everybody Will go in stints

When golf's hard And you're not playing good It's work but when it's when golf seems easy and fun which is kind of what i figured out over time the more fun i can make golf the easier golf is i i enjoy playing i feel like if you're paired with me you've got a you've got a shot advantage oh i agree everyone i think everyone when they look at their tea time they see you're paired with them they just smile and they're like oh yeah i'm like this it's gonna be fun for two to the i just i just want everybody in our green

group to start getting some kind of mo going and what's all right i'll never forget you were paired with justin lennon this was at the end of just the end of justin's career and i mean he was just about done and you made like a 40 footer on the first hole and you you just immediately start yelling yeah he didn't he didn't like that he didn't find it this phone how did he not like that if another guy was just i just don't know if he was really expecting it i mean like bud we're fifth off at greenbrier on Sunday. We're not really threatening to win. But I was like, Justin, yeah,

we're going to have fun today. He didn't. Don't ever speak to me again. Yeah, kind of. You obviously bring the energy, which is awesome, but a lot of people might not know that you're big fan, I mentioned it earlier, of Disney movies and rom-coms. Yes. And you're not scared to maybe shed a tear.

No, I... But what I need to know, first off, I talked, I mentioned earlier, I talked to your wife, Kristen. And she said she likes, like, scary movies and stuff, and you just can't watching with her zero you know why because they're scary because i get scared but what is the most ridiculous movie you think you've ever cried to oh man this got to be something stupid was it animated or real life either one finding nemo yeah bring a couple out probably like Hillary duff Cinderella or something mean girls stupid just an emotional guy mean girls is sad they're mean to people yeah um it's got to be a jizzy like remember the time

Fox and the Hound. I ball at the hot fox and the hound every time I see that Disney flick. A little fox. You're gonna kill him? Remember the Titans? Then you say you cried at that one? Yeah. Well, who doesn't cry it?

Remember the Tire, bud? Yeah. Is that his first name? Bertier? You do not, a Gary. You do not replace a Gary Bertier. I forgot about that part of the movie. No, Dre ain't afraid.

Oh, yeah. It's not the... But I love that you're this big 37-year-old man, and you're still watching Disney movies. I've got two girls now. But you watched them before that. I think we watched them in hotels. Now I have an excuse.

Hey, the Despicable Me is on. Yeah. Despicable Me Me 3? I'm in. Yeah. Done. What do you think about this one?

Yeah, I'm in. Done. There's another one after. You don't have to convince me. Should we get to- Practice rounds not until 2.30? We're fine. All right,

Sleeze, I think it's time for the emergency 9. Since Andres is such a big fan. He knows exactly what's coming. But I'm going to let you start it off. Yeah. start because I think there's some there's some stories to be had in this one but as you know the first question movie being made about the life of andres canzales who plays you I think this might be the first time that everybody agrees on the show we need to get a tanning bed and get Danny

McBride in there and it's I think it's Danny McBride yes yeah I think that's the only layup that we've ever had in here you were getting that all the time when you're on tour right right there So when I first, I qualified for the U.S. Open in 2011. And Rick Riley wrote a big article. That was when I was tweeting Tiger Woods a lot. And he wrote an article on ESPN. And the next day I had 25,000 new followers on Twitter. Shout out, Rick.

And the second round of the event, I had a low round of the day with like three holes left. to bogeyed the last three holes, but whatever. It was playing nice. And as the round was going, more and more people started going. It was probably the biggest crowd I've played in front of to this day to where it was like three people deep down the hole. And guys are yelling mashed potatoes and get in the hole.

But as soon as I'd hit the ball, people would yell, what do you think they yelled? Kenny Powers. Kenny Power! Yeah. Which was kind of weird. But still, I'm Andreas. Yeah. Kind of weird, kind of awesome.

But one of the best characters you could ever have to be referred to as. Yeah, I was okay. I got how they did it a couple of years later. I went with the whole look. I permed my hair. Put in the mullet, put in some lines and like some lightning bolts in the side of my head. I felt super dope. You were super dope.

You are. Still are super dope. All right, number two. We were both fortunate enough to get an invite to the sleeves. man's wedding. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was an honor. Okay, and I'll be honest, you put on a show.

You got to be honest with me. Who was more excited for that wedding? You think you or his now wife, Marissa? Probably not her. I don't think there's any chance. There was no one that had more fun or was more excited to do. All you have to do is look at Drew. Like, how can you be excited for this?

Yeah. Forever? Okay. By the way, we have one of the best pictures ever of us two dancing together. That was not at that wedding. That was at Peter Thomas Sulu's wedding. We've been to some weddings together. You do owe Coles a tie.

You owe me a tie. You keep talking about that tie still. I don't talk. He brought it up. Yeah. You had a $300 tie and he told me about 17 times that night. Well, you cut it in half while I was trying to get a drink and you tied it around your head. Yeah.

You needed a headband. Yeah, I needed a headband because I wanted to look like something cool. I didn't know. I don't know. I don't know where you go at the wedding. Hey, does anybody got any scissors? Oh, I left the wedding for a while. had to go all the way to the front desk.

I was like, hey, can I have some scissors? I'll bring them back. I promise. Don't run. I bet you didn't bring them back. I think I did. Yeah. I immediately cut it and on the walk back I tied it around.

Yeah, I did bring it back. Okay. All right. You're a man of your word. We'll get, there may be some more wedding questions. All right. Do you, next question. By the way, ties do not impress me.

I will cut it off your neck. All right. I need your answer on this too since we were both there. All right. Serious question. Do you think you may have actually sustained a concussion while dancing at my wedding. I do not. I don't know if I agree with that. I don't either. I honestly, guys, I shot 83.79 the next week. I don't think I was concussed.

There was a thump hurt around the world. I mean, that thing, you could hear it from everywhere when your head hit the dance floor. Yeah, I know, but immediately I had medicine going into my head because Drew stood over me and it was like, porn. I was like here, buddy, rub some dirt in. Wes, Wes Holman came up to me and he goes, hey, is there any way to bet on who finishes last next week in Tampa? That would have been a good bet. It would have been a good bet. It's one of those things like burned in my, like if you see your grandma on naked. Like something I'll never forget. I was on the dance floor.

Have you seen that? Running out of me? Not yet, but I feel like it'd be the same thing. Like a drunken grizzly bear on ice skates coming out there. And you just went, boom. I mean, the dance floor was like a skating rink at the time. It was. And I also had my dancing shoes on, so they were a little slick.

The only thing about the end of that, like that's what I said. The times I get in trouble, I'm having a little too much fun. There might have been some whiskey involved. It's worth one Miss Kuh, a night like. that oh for sure I agree like the the quality and the experience was what I was living for everyone at that wedding I just don't know if sued like shit that were super impressed Graham was Graham some grandma must not have been drinking must have been drinking water so he finished like fifth and everyone else shot a

hundred he's Canadian yeah that could also be those guys he's fine do it yeah they're pretty good those guys can do it by the way remember when you stayed at his house and he cut off the cable yeah rude that wasn't nice at all But then you hit those smearingoffs around the house. Tighten up, Graham. Sometimes you've got to ice people when they're not there. All right. Next question.

Your big Seattle Seahawks fan. What number are we on? I don't know. I just read them. Two? I don't know. We'll run out when we run out. I think we're on four.

You're a big Seattle Seahawks fan. Yes. Would you rather spend the evening watching them win the Super Bowl or watching Little Mermaid? That's a tough one. Good size. Probably the Super Bowl, because we've only done it once.

Being a golfer, and you guys have gotten to know this, you get to meet a lot of cool people. So I've gotten to know a fair amount of Seahawks and people that have been affiliated with the Seahawks, and it's kind of a cool little fraternity like the golf world is. So the Seahawks for... I heard you love the music and the Little Mermaid. Who doesn't?

That's an incredible soundtrack. Give us a little tune, because I know you've sang it. Under the Sea. Hmm? Yeah. Look at this stuff. Isn't it neat? Nass. Wouldn't you think my collection's complete? Wouldn't you think I'm a girl? A girl who has everything. Don't stop. I don't even know what song that is.

Look at this stuff. Treasure's untold. How many wonders can one cupboard hold? Looking around here you think, sure. She's got everything. We're not good. So I know that you guys Like I said, that Harry Higgs thing He went on there and had to sing on it. That's what I sang on the plane for UNOV. That was actually a real tradition.

They fooled him into it. Yeah. But everybody. And you were looking forward to it. Oh, yeah. I was wearing a black suit, pink shirt. Like a lounge singer. Oh my gosh.

I went up and I just picked the first lady in the front row and I serenaded her. Once we got to a cruising altitude, Drake was up there. He went trying to hide from it. Oh, gosh. I love you. All right. Next question.

This is a real question, too. Do you feel partly responsible for derailing my PJ tour career by allowing me to switch all of my woods the day before my one and only BJ tour start? Because it was your company at the time. Right. They talked to it. He's a grown man. I told you how good they were, but I wasn't expecting such a weak soul to just switch right away. Yeah.

$200? Yes. I'll do it. Done. Give me anything. That was the number, right? It was 200. Yeah, it's 150, but, you know, it pesos.

You're like, I could, I could use it. I could use it. That was a night of the hotel, bud. Yeah. That's not a joke. Mike, I mean, it's hard. It was the two of you, by the way. I had nothing to do with the switch.

You were in the same practice strong group, and that's where I was convinced. You should do it. Yeah, I'm protecting the field, man. You should do it. This is one less guy we got to be. You should do it. Five grand is a shit load, bud. I thought it was 200.

Yeah, it could have been 200. It's the conversion rate. I don't know. 200 is much more believable. Right. Yeah. probably was. All right.

Next question. As we've mentioned many of times, you're an emotional man, which is great. I think that's one of the reasons Chris loves you. Can we go back real quick?

You played in a tour of it? We played a practice. Don't patronize me, bud. On our serious XM show, he's introduced as ex-tour player. Former tour player. Mm-hmm. All right.

It's facts. Michael Breed is. I might as well be. I hear about it sometimes. Yeah. You know about it. You were there. I think this is number six.

Yeah, number six. Okay. As we've mentioned a few times, you're an emotional man. You're a big teddy bear, Thanks. But I want to know who is the most famous person you've ever cried in front of. I don't really know if I know that answer.

I do. I don't know. I'd say probably Charles Barkley. That's the correct answer. When the hell was this? How do I not know this? I knew you didn't know this. How did I not know this?

I had a real emotional breakdown. I told the Chuck. The Chuckster? We were in Vegas together. He's sitting there. gambling like nobody I've ever seen he's like putting 10 grand down on a for the dealer jack table and then it's like he's in a swivel chair turn around putting 10 grand down on craps coming back here to see how he's doing on this turn

back around the crap I was stressed me out man and that made you cry yeah just but that's so much money I had some stuff stuff in my system and I was just emotional So just watching Charles Barkley gamble made you cry. I got real paranoid. You ever had like the panic attacks? There was a panic attack, man. Chuck was talking to him, just normal. And he thought he was yelling at him. I think he's fucking crying.

I was like, Chuck, I got to go. I got to go to bed, man. I cannot watch this. I got to get out of here. And he goes, it's 8 p.m. man. I was like, I know. I got to go. I got to go.

And he takes his bald ass head, puts it up against mine. He's like, I'll give you, you give me one shot aside. And I'm just like, oh my gosh. gonna get out of here. Oh yeah. It was so good. Oh my God. I didn't think about it for a second

about who would have been. I've cried in front of a lot of people. Like, Charles hasn't been in the league for a while. I was like, is I'm famous enough to say this about? Colts answer will be you now because he's crying right now. I didn't, how did I not know that story?

It was so funny. Holy shit. Just watching Charles Barclick Gamble. I'll never forget it. Dude, you're being so irresponsible. We hung out with the guy that wrote the thong song that. Cisco. No, Cisco sang. He sang it.

Oh, he didn't write that beautiful? God, it'll come to me in a second. I can look at it. That was the lyrical masterpiece, in my opinion. We were going over to meet Charles and we're in this limo, and I'm with this guy the thong song. I'm like, this guy's so cool. We're like, what did you do? He's like, I wrote the thong song.

Dumps like a truck? What do you, how did you come up with that? He's like, I saw a butt and I liked it with a thong. Marquise. Yeah. I want, yeah, Marquise. Markese. How did you ever come up with dumps like a truck?

That's genius. Oh, God. What's the next one? Where the hell am I on this damn thing? Oh, this feels like an idiot question. Now it's kind of serious. All right, if you could put your incredible, positive golf brain into one tour player currently, who do you think would benefit most?

Oh, that's a good question. Yeah, so thinker. That's a good one. Basically, it was the most talented, but most negative. If they had your brain, they'd shoot 60 all the time. Yeah, I don't know. I don't really pay attention to the negative guys, even though I'm sure I'm aware of them.

But one of the most talented people I know is probably Luke List. But I don't think that he's super negative. I don't, like, so. He's not super positive. He's not, I wouldn't say he's negative. I just, I mean, I don't know. I don't know if he's a killer. Yeah, I, well, look, yeah.

I understand what you're saying. I don't know if I'm a killer either. I'm just trying to have some fucking fun. In the moment, I think, when you're in it. Like Woody Austin Prime, I think you have that. I think it would have that. I don't think it'd be super positive.

Kevin Stadler. There's a really talented dude that doesn't quite love everything that he does. He's a freak talent. Yeah. You could give him a shovel. He'd figure out how to hit it. So here's a- Here's a random story.

This is my Woody Austin story. I just get. my card. It's probably like January, early, early January. 2011, and I'm in Vegas living there. I'm practicing on the back of the range of TPC, and Woody's back there. Kind of start talking to him. He's like, oh, yeah, cool. You're going to be a rookie this year, yada, yada. I was like, what are you in town for? He goes, I always come here from Wichita to kind of get warmed up before I go to Sony and start the year. and I was like, oh, I'm going to go to Sony.

I'm going to Monday. I end up being first alternate, but my first event was Tori Pines. And he said, we should play a practice round together, Tori Pines. Like, all right, well, I usually go somewhat early, like eight to nine. He goes, ah, I don't go that early. All right, well, if I'll see you out there. And we get to Tori Pines, and I get done playing, and he's on the range. and he comes up and he just starts chewing me.

I was like, what are you doing? You think you're on tour and you're big time enough that you can just big league me? I was like, whoa. What did I do? No, I, no, I, yes, no.

I, shot 68 today. Brax round, pretty good around. Yeah, of course it's hard, huh? I didn't know what to do. That was, that was my Woody Austin experience. So he showed up at eight or nine to play a branch round or whatever? I guess.

I didn't know that we actually had scheduled something. I didn't think that we did. That guy. And then you cried. Yeah. Exactly. Then I cried. He doesn't know all this crying stuff.

Sorry. Charles what I just thought. I had to let you tell because it was too good. Oh, it's so good. So good. All right. Thanks, Lundy. All right.

Here's the deal. I can guarantee you a win on the PGA tour next time you get your card. But you have to wear a pair of my used socks every day for the entire season. You talk to my wife. I don't like other people's socks. I've heard. What's your deal? It's just,

even if they're washed? Yeah. Why? Because your feet were in them. I don't know. I don't know how it happened. Nobody else in my family's like that, but if she gives me a pair of socks and I'm like,

oh, these aren't foot joy. Because you know there's somebody else. I just know that they're not mine. Unless they're like in a package, I'll do it because they're brand new. Yeah. but once my feet or somebody needs a pair of socks and I give them a pair of socks you can have those so you think so feet grows you out but you're not one and done with socks really I'll touch your feet right now I just don't want my foot in your foot

okay good whatever that but for a tour win that's a tough one you got to wear a colt socks I think I think I could do it and he's playing in uh i could do it I could do it for a tour win you know me socks he's playing the John deer is the socks from the John deer I might even be able to get some free socks if I do that. That's true. That's good point. I like to think about it. I don't know. I'd take the win, but I don't really like my feet in soft.

And other people, where other people's feet have been. Yeah. All right. Here we go. Number nine. Everybody's got one krypton. All right. Last question.

I haven't refilled this one. Yeah, you might need a splash for this one. Honestly. This is a bit of a story. There you go. Give me a little spritz if you don't mind. while I asked this. All right, you ready for this? What are you thinking about their gravy? I like it.

All right, you ready? I'm very excited for this next question. All right. Last question. Think about this. Have you ever engaged in a low-speed golf cart chase with a security guard in Mexico while also mostly nude? Mostly. I use mostly liberally. Yes. Okay. Can you elaborate? That's the end of the story.

I think I actually did this story on. On your radio show once. Yes, you did. But it's one of the best. I missed the cut playing Canadian tour. Try to figure this out. First month of every Canadian tour that I played was in Mexico. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.

I've always thought that. And a month in Mexico. Changes a man. Sounds kind of cool, but it's not that cool. You were there for some of it. You never played jickeys, did you? You never had to play international jicks. No.

It's for the real ones. Which were fun. It's for the real ones. Yeah. You get nude golf cart chases. Yeah. So I don't know what happened. I missed the cut in the morning on Friday.

I went and had a few libations. There was free booze. In on the T-boxes, we had the big water jugs, right? Half of it was water. The other half was Corona Modelo. Sounds incredible. So we'd get done playing and we'd just go sit on the range in the morning and watch our friends warm up and just like drink beer and watch it was awesome. Yeah, we're done for the day.

So I had a couple. I had a couple. And I don't really know how I got the cart or how I ended up not clothed. But I was driving through this neighborhood, not clothed. Not clothed at all. in a cart away from the clubhouse and this is about where I start to come to coherency him this is not a good good situation this is a bad this is a bad situation I turn around and there's a security golf cart that's chasing me neither one of these carts are souped up at all they both

go about 12 so we're just neither of them can go faster than the other one as I so Graham Delette's playing Canadian tour at the time time. He's the big name, but he's staying in a house with a guy named Barrett Jarosh, Mike Mazy. Were you in the house? No. Maybe Deacon was in the house? Was J.C. in there? Deacon, Barrett, Jorosh, and Delette. And as I go by, they're all just sitting on their front porch, which is on like the 18th T-box. They're on the 18th T-box, but they're on the front porch where the road is having some beers, and I go driving by, and I'm... waving like he's he's gonna catch me so as we go i go around this corner and there's a road

that cuts between 17 green and 18 t and i just jump out of the cart and let this thing just keep rolling and i take off across because i'm staying on the there's 36 holes i'm staying on the other 18 with with andrew parr and i think peter laws and i don't even remember who else but i'm sprinting across it's two in the afternoon tournament still going on. I'm running I'm running across 17 fairway and people are in there and I'm just naked running across this thing. And you're fast. Super fast. Yeah there. There was no way this guy was catching him on foot. And so I was thinking I was being smart. I go like four houses down, run through their yard,

go to the street, run four houses down. I run up into my house and I go all the way upstairs. I get in the closet and I just sit there and I'm just going to hide in the dark. Like nobody's going to find me here. And about 30 minutes goes by. and I went back out and then like the little the demons started coming when I was like this isn't going to be good at all like nothing

you're pretty recognizable this is me having too much fun again yep but yeah that's so they find you they say anything I don't think I was too fast so you got away with it nobody no he got away with it

oh yeah I the whole thing I was thinking about for 30 minutes sitting in the dark in a closet was one I've got to come out of this closet and two this isn't good at all. Federales.

Yeah. Even though it was just like a low room. I'm going to like Mexican prison. That's incredible. Jail. Maybe not prison, but jail. It's all the same.

Nude in public golf tournament. Nude low speed golf cart. Like literally just think of another cart, 40 yards behind another cart going the exact same speed. Exact same speed. How's it going to end? The whole thing going through my mind is I'm running from this guy is like I could jump out right now and maybe gain some ground on this cart,

but I'm going to run out of gas. I'm going to run out of gas. So I'm going to stick it to the car as long as possible. I'm safe here. He can't go faster than me. One of the best. That's literally running across the airways. This is what I was nervous about coming to talk to you guys.

You guys knew too many, too many stories. I think that it's actually, I'm growing up. And I'm trying not to have stuff that's affecting my financials as much as I did. Like, I had nothing to worry about with sponsors and stuff when I was younger. Just be. But now that I'm where I am, and I rely on a lot of these financials, I pump the brakes a little bit, bud. Just be you.

We love you. Just be you. We love you. Just be you. We love you. Dre, thank you so much for Joyce, man. Cheers, boys. Cheers, boys.

Cheers. Love you, Doggy. Sleeze. I mean, like we said, before the interview, it wasn't quite comedy level, but it was damn clubs. Buddy, there is not a more fun guy to be around than Andres Gonzalez. I think that's pretty clear. We had a good night afterwards.

We went over, uh, had a couple more over at supper. But, dude, some of those stories, I was so glad. to him to tell the the naked golf cart chase through I think we're in mazitlan just there was free booze at the course right likes to have a couple finish was going to miss the cut grabbed them next thing you know just we're sitting on a porch and then then here's dray and about 40 yards behind him I was like oh there's naked dray just on a golf cart chase cool weird one or this will shake out driving through the golf course and stuff I mean some of these stories Diego from the

holding cell they the guy the guy has lived a life and probably has more fun out there than really anybody he does he I mean he is an absolute blast. He's one of the best pairings you can get on the PGA tour. Someone I always looked forward to playing with. And like I said, I don't know, I don't think you knew the story about our evening with Charles Barkley in Vegas. Yeah, I didn't. I was a shock. But it was all time. And I mean, I still, him and his wife, or sorry, myself and his wife still laugh about it every single time. I mean, it was, it was perfect, perfect Dre. I could just see Dre sitting there just observe and just freaking out. Like, do you understand? Why are you yelling at me?

There's so much money to cry to the point of tears. And I want to make this, I want to make this point too because we told a lot of funny stories a lot of involved drinking having a good time and things like that that guy is as committed to his golf game as anybody it's don't want to make it sound like he's just out here drinking having a good time and and putting golf to the side he works his ass off he plays really or he tries really hard but he also plays really hard too and god man you said you said it well he's one of those guys you can have four bad weeks in a row showing up to the fifth he's still thinking he's going to win and i'm looking forward to seeing what he does on the corn pray this year because no matter what he does the week prior when he gets hot as things start to

click he can really really play some good golf and I'm confident he'll get back yeah he set he sets his mind to something and he normally does it I mean here's a guy a lot of people probably never thought would make it to the pGA tour but he thought he could and now his next goal before his career is over with he wants to be top 50 in the world I know I'm rooting for him I know you're rooting for him if someone's rooting against him that's a you problem yeah he is like you said he is one of the best dudes on the planet so much fun to sit down with and he's just he's a fun lovable guy and I mean, we could have gone for four hours the other night. Absolutely.

I thought it was really cool getting into it because I think you and I both knew it, but the way he got to UNLV and the impact Ryan Moore had on him when he was there. Like he was doing, you know, he was a typical college kid, having a good time, maybe overindulging a little bit, gets to UNLV, Ryan Moore vouch for him, kind of put his name on the line with Coach Knight. And then he just mirrored Ryan Moore for the next three years. And that's, shockingly, that's when Dre started to get better and better and better. And by his senior year, he was a third team All-American.

So he turned into it like a good college player has just been getting back. But Ryan kind of put him on the straight and narrow, took him under his wing and said, this is how we do it. And who better to learn from in college than Ryan Moore? I'll never get it though. And I say it to him every time we sit down with him.

You go from Oregon State where you're getting in too much trouble to, hey, I'm going to go to Vegas and really straighten my shit up. Mom and pop, listen, the time has come. I've got to get my shit together. I'm going to Vegas. That's where I'm going to really tighten the screws. I love it. Well, it was a blast.

We will do it again with Andres Gonzalez, no doubt about it. But now it is time to. get into the gambling segment of the week. Do we have to do we started last week? We started our survivor pool, our one and done. You can pick one guy, then you're done with him for the rest of the year. You know, not our best start.

I'll be honest. I'm not known for coming out of the gates. You're a slow starter. I'm right where I expect to be. One over through one. Listen, we've only done one week. Producer Mark, how we standing so far? Well, Drew came out with Russell Henley, who entered the event 33 to 1 to win,

and he missed the cut. Standard issue? So that's zero, I believe. That's a zero. Round two last year, whatever. Colt, Adam Hadwin, came in at 66 to 1, tied for 32nd, $38,257 in the bank. A lot better than zero. Better than zero.

He ended with a bogey on Sunday. He really pissed me off. I was looking for a birdie for a little final round 64, going to top 20. But hey, you know what? I'll take it. It's an okay start. You're on the board and you control the T. I do control the T.

We're doing the control of the T. Whoever had the better week prior, right? Just like in golf, like make birdie. All right, cool. It doesn't matter because you can pick the same guy. Yeah, hopefully, I don't know who you have this week. I don't want to overlap very much. That sucks.

That sounds like a you problem. We'll see. Once I get the lead. I've got my guy and I stick to him. When I write it down, it is there. I got mine, so it's your turn. Listen, we are at the Farmers Insurance Open this week. I'm going to be out there all week doing TV for Golf Channel CBS.

I can't wait to get there. This is a big boy golf course. I feel like you don't get too many non-big names win this tournament. I mean, this is a golf course. You cannot fake it around. And I'm going with a guy who in the last three years at this golf course finished tied for sixth tied for 13th solo sixth and coming off a pretty damn good week in the desert i'm ready for his second victory on the pGA tour he's going off at 21 tony finney there you go

okay he may be coming into play a little later i love that pick as you'll see as we get into our favorites and our dark horses hard to knock that uh would love by the way would love tony i'd almost sacrifice the getting shit on in the survivor pool for tony to win this week so uh i like that pick i'm gonna go same kind of theme i was debating going with one of the real big names this week, but just feel this early. I'm going to save them, even though it really doesn't matter. All you're trying to do is get a win out of somebody. Listen, you only got like 40 guys to use throughout the year. Yeah, exactly. So you got to burn them.

You got to burn them at some point. Well, this guy is not too far of a step down, especially when you look at his course history here. I'm going Charles Howell the third. So I'm looking at a guy. It's supposed to be a little chilly over there, tough weather. I just look at really good ball strikers around this golf course. Big Boy Yard, like you said. So going back to, he didn't play last year at this place, but going back to 2019, he finished T20, T6, T6.

T2, T16, and T5. And since 2014, the last time he played, that was the last time he didn't top 20 at this golf course. So Charles, he's coming off a miscut at the American Express. So I feel like just get that one pesky miscut out of the way for Charles Howell, who's a cut-making machine. I'm going to go with him. Last seven times he's played here, four top tens and two top-twenties in the mix. I heard you the first time.

Pretty, pretty good. So if this doesn't get me on the board, then I'm just snake bit. All right, we will see what happens. But let's go over some other picks we really like. I mean, I pick the guy I think is going to win the golf tournament in my one and done most of the time, or at least somewhere around it. But I honestly think going off at 20 to 1 is some pretty solid odds for Tony Fienow. If you're looking further down the board, here's a guy who has finished 21st around this place, 13th,

and has had a playoff loss. He's going off at 50 to 1. I would love to see what his odds for a top 10 are. He's been playing some great golf, really turned around his career. Ryan Palmer. Okay. All right. So you got Tony Fienow and Ryan Palmer is a favorite.

Dark Horse. You got to hit fairways at Torrey Pines. He's got great success there. And I tell you what, he's turned the putter around, and he's been playing some great golf. Made the Tour Championship last year. I wouldn't be surprised if he pops up on the leaderboard Sunday. All right, RP as your Dark Horse, well, I'll save the suspense.

I'm going Tony Feenhouse. My favorite, 20 to 1. I will eliminate all the stats that I had written down and all the hard work I did since you already said it. We'll go straight to the dark horse. I'm going another big boy type of golfer loves to hit the driver. Probably the best aspect of his game. Jason Coke rack is going off at 50 to 1. He won earlier this year, C.

at shadow. It's going to get to hit that driver as much as he wants this week at Torrey Pines, I think, especially with the weather. I mean, if it's cold out there and it's got a little moisture in there and that rough is wet, I mean, that thing's going to play long. You're going to have to walk your ass around that place for four days, which is going to be a bit of a workout. But yeah, I'm going Jason Cochrak as my dark horse. I'll tell you, this is a funny. Do you like that or hate that? Yeah, I like that a lot. Cochrak's a great driver of the golf. I don't know if he'll win, but I see him playing well this week. This is the only place in my PGA tour career.

And I had some decent success around Tori Pines. You did, yeah. It's 7,800 yards, right? Okay. You get 56 driving opportunities the week. I hit 56 drivers. Of course, I hit driver. Like, Academy, John Downport, loved it because we'd go to the team.

Here you go. If it ain't a par three, bud, hand me the big boy. 56, 56 par fours and part fives, I hit 56 drivers every single time. I mean, just going through the course in my head, like, where are you not? Yeah. Unless you're, I mean, maybe one of these super long guys. Before they read it, the only one of these. one you might was number two was a little short one it's like 320 par four but the pin was always

over in the back right so he just blew it up the left and tried to pitch it across the green um but yeah 56 of 56 hitting the big dog yeah it is driver city out here uh at tory and with the like it said the weather they're expecting the wet and i think somebody that sends it is going to win this week well our next guest next week's lee absolutely sends it this guy can move the golf ball he's a winner on the pj tour won the honda classic uh one of the biggest upsets on the pGA tour in 2019 i would say Keith Mitchell beat out Brooks Kepka and Ricky Fowler down at the Honda and he was a blast to sit down with I can't wait to get into it Keith also known as Kevin also known as what's the other one Jeff yeah Jeff I believe for some reason for some reason the TV just cannot get his name right he his name for some

reason is a stumper out there but yeah he's in here um he's a fun chat man he's a cool dude really fun getting to talk with him and yeah like you said he's got the one win on the PJ tour if you're going to win one beating Ricky and Brooks out of a win that's a tough one to beat. So Keith Mitchell next week. It's a fun one. Boogie, Keith Mitchell. Boogie. Man, likes himself, some nice stuff. Yes, he does. All right. That's going to do it for us. We'll talk to you on next week's golf subpar.