Subpar - Beau Hossler Interview: Leading the US Open at 17 years old, coming up just short in Houston

Episode Date: February 22, 2022

On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar, PGA Tour pro Beau Hossler joins former PGA Tour pro Colt Knost and jicky jack legend Drew Stoltz for an exclusive, in-studio, interview. Coming off a recent 3r...d place finish in Pebble Beach, Beau talks what it was like leading the US Open at just 17 years old, why leaving home in California to attend the University of Texas has made him a better all around performer and how being paired with first time golfers in a pro-am nearly cost him his Tour card.

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Starting point is 00:00:12 Hello world, welcome back to golf subpar, Colt Nost and Drew Stoltson. Holy shit, slees, do we have some stuff to get into? We're going to get to Joaquin Neiman and the Genesis Invitational, but first, we've got to talk about the SGL. The people over in Saudi, Phil Mickelson, a major bomb was dropped on them Sunday afternoon. Yeah, I almost feel bad for Joaquin Neiman putting together one of the best 36 whole performances I can remember in a long time, 16 under around Rive. and like all the talk was around Phil and the comments about the SGL. And like there was, that was a nuke dropped on this thing.
Starting point is 00:00:46 I mean, we've been talking about this league for a long time. It seems like the attention comes up, then it comes down, then some other names get floated and we talk about it again. And then this weekend, I mean, you know,
Starting point is 00:00:55 the rumor was that they had 17 guys signed, they were going to announce during the players championship and all that. And now after the guys that came out this weekend, uh, said, I'm committed to the BJ tour for sure going forward. I mean, it's every big name in golf.
Starting point is 00:01:07 So at this point, I don't know if it goes forward or, And if it does, who's going to be carrying the flag for that thing? Sunday morning, I woke up, saw Dustin Johnson release a statement saying he's committed to the PGA tour. I was flipping over between Golf Channel and the CBS coverage. And we got a word in our ear that Bryson DeShambo just released statement saying, I'm committed to the PGA tour as long as the best tour players in the world are there.
Starting point is 00:01:29 So that's still, he's got an out. But Bryson was the guy that seemed like he was going to be the main man over there. And for him to back out was very, very surprising to me. And if you look at the list of guys who said no, it's now Bryson. Dustin, Rory, Brooks, John Rom,
Starting point is 00:01:44 Justin Thomas, who else is on there? Spieth? Did you say Spieth? I mean, it's like, who's the hell you're going to get? Who's going to be the top-ranked guy
Starting point is 00:01:52 that goes over there? This whole thing, I mean, is named the SGL, the Super Golf League. Like, it was billed as, this is going to rival the PJ Tour. We're going to have stars.
Starting point is 00:01:59 We're going to pay you more money, come over here and get paid. And now looking at it, like, all right, even if this thing does happen, who's your top-ranked guy? Is nobody, after all those guys
Starting point is 00:02:08 that is going to move the needle single-handedly. And you need, like, a group of them. When we were talking about this, it was like, I think you need half the top ten or something like that. You know, you got to take some dudes that move the needle. And they don't got, assuming everybody's telling the truth, they don't got any of those guys.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Yeah, I'm interested to see what happens. Obviously, Phil created a lot of buzz with his comments about the PGA tour and the Sotties in an article with Alan Shipnuck. I mean, he said some pretty crazy things in that article. I'm not going to get into that here, mostly just talking about the PGA tour. their obnoxious greed and all this. But in my opinion, I don't know how you feel.
Starting point is 00:02:42 I think that's going to come back and backfire on him. Yeah, I think Phil is always calculated, always kind of planning one step ahead, knows how to tilt the scales towards his favor, not afraid to throw his weight around. I'm more shocked than anything that he would give those quotes to a golf rider and be like, and think that it's all going to be okay. Like those are going to get out. This wasn't behind closed doors at a dinner or something like that. That was straight up to a golf rider.
Starting point is 00:03:04 And then these things come out. And I feel like he just, he misplayed his hand. I think he was trying to use this as leverage all along, and now it's coming out the way he's gone at the PGA tour. This is the first time in history. I mean, he's one of the most beloved guys, most popular guys on the PGA tour for 30 years plus. I've never once seen other players,
Starting point is 00:03:21 especially top-tier players like Rory, come out and take shots at Phil, ever. Justin Thomas came out. Rory Macaroy came out after his round on Sunday and was asked about Phil Mickelson's comments. He said, quote, I don't want to kick someone while he's down, obviously, but I thought they were naive, selfish,
Starting point is 00:03:37 egotistical, ignorant. A lot of words to describe that interaction he had with Shipnuck. It was just very surprising and disappointing, sad. I'm sure he's still sitting at home, sort of rethinking his position and where he goes from here, end quote. I mean, that's from Roy McElroy, who is the nicest, most caring guy out there.
Starting point is 00:03:56 But at the same time, you take a shot at the PGA tour, which has been Phil's home for 25 plus years. Listen, I think everyone in every single sport, whether it's NBA, NFL, NHL, Major League Baseball, like, players want it to be better. That's just human nature. Everyone is what we are. We wanted to be better.
Starting point is 00:04:13 We want it to be more money and all this. But man, to bury him the way Phil did, I thought it was a big mistake. Yeah. And when you get a guy like Rory, like you mentioned, he's one of the most thoughtful interviews in golf. When he talks, people listen. And this is the first time, like I said, that I can remember where other players are coming out and criticizing Phil Nichols. And he's been incredibly popular with the players, President's Cup, Rider Cups, all those things. They seem to always have Phil's back.
Starting point is 00:04:37 this is the first time that I can think that that's not the case. And I think Phil, he's been quiet throughout the weekend. You know, he didn't play the Genesis. He hasn't heard from him on social media, anything like that. If I'm his team, I think you got to get in front of this quick. The longer you go, the more the anticipation builds. And I think he's got one or two routes. One, show some remorse, say, hey, I was trying to use this to better the PGA tour.
Starting point is 00:04:59 That was my intent. I got some quotes that were, you know, I apologize for. I know they sound bad. Or you double down and stay with it. and lean into it more. So I think he's got to go one or two ways. Yeah, I'm interested to see when he plays again next. He's over the years, played Bay Hill many of times.
Starting point is 00:05:16 The players championship, pretty much always. He likes to warm up before the Masters, played. That's San Antonio, Valero. And then there's Augusta National. At some point, he's going to show up and he's going to have to face the music. And also, it's going to be a different atmosphere. I would imagine walking into the locker room, walking into player dining, and being around your peers at, on,
Starting point is 00:05:37 like playing on the PGA tour, the tour that you shit all over. Yeah, definitely it's going to be. That's why I think the moment that he speaks to the meeting for the first time is going to be a big, big moment. And the longer it goes, the more the anticipation builds, the bigger that it gets. I think he needs to come out and say something right away and put this to bed and just let it simmer a little.
Starting point is 00:05:52 It's not going to go away until he gets to a golf tournament and gets in front of the media and answers them directly, but even if he puts out a statement or something, just put this thing on simmer for a little bit. I think with what he did at the magnitude it is, I don't like the statement. I think you've got to go in person and just own it.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Well, yeah, he's got to. At some point, he's going to have to get up there. They're not going to forget about this. Oh, he's not going to play for a month. Like, you know, and the next time he shows up, they're just going to ask him about his game. He's going to have to answer for this face-to-face.
Starting point is 00:06:17 But you can put something out and say, like, hey, I look forward to speaking to everyone at this event, and here's what happened and just kind of chill it out a little bit. I also like the fact that when Rory was asked by he's like, yeah, I don't want to kick a guy when he's down. But here's a triple suplex guillotine, I'll just choke this guy out right here. So he prefaced it with, I don't want to kick a guy when he's down and then just drop the bomb on him.
Starting point is 00:06:37 But yeah, man, Phil, for the first time in a long, long time, Phil's kind of not Mr. Popular right now. And he's going to have to come up with what he's going to say and try to spin this in the right light. No, and I know some people on the Saudi tour side and speaking to them, like, I mean, this was a bomb dropped on them. They were in complete shock, never expected this to happen the way it did. So it'll be very interesting going forward to see what happens with the SGL. Do you think it ever happens? They actually hold an event now at this point. They might hold an event, but it's going to be nothing.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Yeah. What are you going to, like, people are going to show up for that? Like, oh, our best players, the 29th ranked player in the world or whatever it is? Well, I mean, now it's just like, okay, now we're just trickling down the world golf rankings. Who are we going to get next? Who are we going to get next? You get to the 80th player in the world and say, hey, we'll give you $5 million to come play.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Sure, I'll take it. Yeah, I mean, there are guys that will jump all over that. Yeah. The money keeps trickling down, but it's not going to affect the product of the PJ Tour. All the guys that you needed to be the premier tour in the world are all staying on PJ tour as of right now. Well in some positive news, Tiger Woods showed up at the Genesis Invitational last week. He is the tournament host, was in the booth with Jim Nance, looked great, sounded great, was very uncommittal about his schedule, which I totally understand. But he
Starting point is 00:07:46 know, his biggest thing was, I got to be able to walk 18 holes four days in a row, which around Augusta National, where we want to see him is rather difficult. But we did hear a report. There's 52 steps going from 18 Green up to the clubhouse. I've walked them. They suck. I mean, you're out of breath. Take a break. You set up base camp. And apparently, Tiger strolled up him, no lip, no problem. All good.
Starting point is 00:08:09 I mean, just from where we saw him at the P&C with Charlie, like the way he was swinging, I was like, oh, my God, this is miles ahead of where I thought he was. And then now there's no days off, I'm sure, for Tiger. He's working on it. I got to think physically he's probably okay. It's just, where is my golf game? Can I compete? I don't think he wants to go out there and be a ceremony.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Like, oh, I'll put the tea in the ground, but my game stinks right now. I don't think we'll see him until he feels confident in his golf game. But damn, just seeing him this week. I mean, just rewind a year ago when we saw him out there. I mean, he looked like a different person this year. No doubt. To last year. And I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:38 I don't want to jinx anything, but I got to think Augusta seems very real at this point. Totally agree with you. Let's go to the Genesis Invitational and the champion. Joaquin Neiman put on a show 16 under through two rounds, obliterated the scoring record. Cameron Young, who was in second, also broke the scoring record. He's got to feel like shit. Like the one week I run up against this, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:59 But ends up shooting 19 under for a year. a two-shot victory over Colin Morikawa and Cameron Young. Just the kid, you know, we would only he's going to be a superstar. He's only 23 years old. Feels like he's been out there for 10 years already. But man, that was a hell of a show. Went wire-to-wire first person since 1969 and Charlie Sifford. But he put on a clinic, man.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Dude, that first 36 was some of the best 36 holes of golf year. 63, 63 round rip. By the way, he didn't make hardly anything. Especially the first day. 55 feet of putts, longest putt, 9 feet. Nine feet, 63. And then you shoot a 63, like, okay, it's hard to back up. Bam, he goes and does it again.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Dude, he got the 21 under through 46 holes of the golf tournament. Good math. That's crazy. I mean, that's, that is nuts. Both of those things are incredibly impressive. But it's always been the putter. Like, you know, his ball striking's there. It seems like week in, week out.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Putter's a little iffy. Whatever he did. I mean, through the first 36, he led in strokes gained approach and strokes game putting. So there you go. He does that. He's a problem because the teeter green, it's awesome. Yeah, Dottie Pepper was with his group for C. CBS. I was in the next to last group. He makes Eagle on 10 to go to 21 under. He's leading by six.
Starting point is 00:10:05 I'm like, well, I'm basically getting paid to walk out here and walk around and watch golf because they're never going to send it to my group. There's nothing to show here. Then Tiger gets in the booth. I'm like, well, I'm rather bored. Here we go. I'm just going to lay down. Can you slow down a little under a tree? Yeah. Yeah. Make it a little more interesting. But congratulations, Joaquin Neiman, second PGA tour victory. More to come. Definitely more to come. It is like, that's kind of the running joke. Like, wow, he's only 23 years old. But damn, he is only. 23 years old. He's been out there for forever. He picked up his second now and just if the putting, say this about a few guys, but if the putting becomes average, just okay, he's going to contend
Starting point is 00:10:39 and put himself in the hunt tons because Tita Green is sweet. I will show you something. It's obviously hard to show right here, but he's working with a guy named Steven Sweeney, same guy Luke List worked with. And Stephen sent me some pictures of a year ago compared to today of his putting stroke. Oh my goodness. What's the biggest difference? P posture. He looked like a 12 handicaps that It looked good. I was like, how is he always put back? What goes wrong? It looked good.
Starting point is 00:11:03 I mean, the last day, a couple little shorties he expected, but also nervous as shit, trying to lead wire to wire. That's got to be exhausting. And the names behind him were big. Callmore Cowah tried to make that thing interesting. Top ten in the world or there. That Eague kind of put it all to bed. I felt like on 11, but yeah, he was, for a guy that can't chip, by the way,
Starting point is 00:11:19 Calmore Cowas supposedly can't chip, seems to hold out of shitload of chips. Who says he can't chip? I mean, he's known as a ball striker, obviously. He's a good chipper. I mean, he holds a ton of a ton of, of them. And those ones he was holding out there were... Victor Hoble is a shitty chipper. Yeah, I know Victor Hovlin. He's gotten so much better. He did some great chips this week. That's why he always is in the hunt now, it feels like.
Starting point is 00:11:39 He is. But speaking of gorgeous things, our guest this week, what was that jacket he wore? Was it swayed? That thing was like a velvety suede or something I hadn't seen before. It was like out of Elvis's closet. Wow, very interesting. Elvis, get up. But has been a superstar since he was in diapers. First got to see him when he was 17 years old at the U.S. Open at Olympic Club. At one point, had the lead. It goes on to great career at the University of Texas. Now he's on the PGA Tour. Just had a great finish at Pebble Beach a couple weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Got to think, Bo Hostler, and a win is coming soon. Yeah, if he just drives it somewhat straight. I think statistically, a few events ago, he was like dead last in accuracy on the PGA tour. It's not good. That's tough to win against those guys hitting it the way they do. So if he just straightens it up just a little bit and he's grinded and he's changed his golf swing a lot, you know the talent. When you're a kid that's that good from the jump all the way up to, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:29 know, PJ tour, it's kind of just getting, getting comfy, getting everything figured out. But yeah, he's starting to show some flashes, especially at Pebble. I mean, you would think with a swing like he's got, after one, Colin Montgomery, he would drive it up a gnat's ass. I mean, he's got the DNA. You know what I mean? The Apple doesn't fall far typically. All right. He's tightened up a lot, though.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Yeah. Oh, dude, he's in that gym right now. All right. Well, here he is. Bo Hostler on Golf Subpar. All right. We are joined by an absolute beauty. Dressed up to the Nines, by the way, and I'm very appreciative of that.
Starting point is 00:13:00 You've been watching to make tweets since the man was in braces. He led the U.S. Open at the ripe age of 17. Now he's a grizzled PJ Tour Vet. The Bo Show. Bo Hasla. What's going on, brother? Grizzled. That's a first.
Starting point is 00:13:13 Grisled. You like that? Yeah, I like that. Yeah. And you're looking, by the way, very trim. You're in that gym right now, huh? Yeah, I took a page out of your book. Don't do anything and lay around.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Yeah, correct. Trying to keep those legs a little smaller. Yeah, it's always leg day, bro. Is that an audio book? You're on it. What's your secret? Do nothing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Correct. Yeah. You got to figure it out. Yeah. Have you been putting a lot of work in though? Yeah. Off season. Just trying more speed, lose weight, both all.
Starting point is 00:13:44 I mean, I think everybody wants more speed. Yeah. I mean, that'd be great. But it wasn't like speed training. I just, I don't know. I figured I'd get in shape for a month and a half. Rather than just crush. I see the numbers on Insta.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Thanksgiving. You're throwing up some big numbers speed-wise. They're big. They're almost as big as yours. legit numbers but yeah well i mean i mean be realistic i know you're going and you're working on that swing a lot what are you doing yeah it's been it's been a revitalization what are you doing dana delquist yeah sorry dana dalquist it's been a double d yeah it's been a double d yeah so what is it why'd you recreate it it was could no because i was i was sitting it poorly can i say shitty yeah i can i
Starting point is 00:14:26 I was sending it like dog shit for three years. Yeah, there you go. I was tired of it. How big of a process is that to go through? I mean, because you're saying it's a pretty big swing change. Like, how long does that take? And when do you finally feel comfortable? Yeah, it was big.
Starting point is 00:14:40 I mean, it was really big, to be honest. I started working with him, I think, like November last year. So like 2020. So it's been, you know, a year and change now. And I'd say easily it took me eight months. months to like feel comfortable in a tournament no it feel fine like it took me six months for it to feel like good ever yeah i mean like where i could do it where you weren't just thinking of everything yeah and then eight months really probably till i could do it in a tournament um but it's still i mean
Starting point is 00:15:13 you know there's there's still conscious thought of course but it's way like i think the path i just have way more understanding of what i need to do and i think by trial and error as well like Like, I might be trying to do something and you might try and do the same thing, but we might have to think about different things in order to do it, if that makes sense. Yeah, for sure. And so figuring that out, figuring out the things that I need to be conscious of and the certain things that kind of affect my ball flight or whatever. And I just, you have to correlate them, right?
Starting point is 00:15:49 You have to correlate like, oh, when I feel this, like generally this happens. And until you can do that under pressure. Yeah, I think that's the biggest thing is under pressure. Like you can go do all this work. it's great on the range okay it's great on a practice round but once the pressure ramps up you're going to revert back to those old habits and it's how do you keep from doing that 100% and the fact is I believe that you'll always revert in some way that direction right like if you don't think that you're going to do that like I think you're oblivious and so yeah you've trained your whole life to swing it
Starting point is 00:16:19 way right you're changing it right so I think being ready for that and having a couple thoughts that you have that can kind of at least get you backed out in a little bit is huge. And that's kind of the direction that I've gotten lately. And it's funny, like, even the, I had a really good offseason. And then, you know, I actually did a bunch of golf club work. It's interesting how, like, all those things intermingle. Like, you start swinging the club differently and it doesn't. I need to be flatter or more.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Kind of, yeah. It was interesting. Like, it was significant. Like, I've never really been that into equipment. but the stuff that I did this winter was pretty eye-opening, and it's kind of matched up with the things that I'm working on in my swing, which is really good. Well, you did it just recently at Pebble.
Starting point is 00:17:03 I mean, you had a hell of a tournament. You were right there on 18, chance to Eagle potentially get in a playoff. That's got to get, and you're hitting some fucking good shots down the stretch. Like that drive on 18, like that's got, and driver's been kind of the thing for you. That's got to be until you do it in competition, it actually shows up. You got to, like, there's some questioning I feel like until that actually happens. 100%. And it's funny, I missed the cut at Sony,
Starting point is 00:17:28 missed the cut at Tori, and both of those tournaments, I left feeling like my game was in good shape. And you know how, like, it's amazing how tight the margins are between playing, like, playing well and not scoring well, and playing well and scoring really well, right? And so I knew my game was in good shape, but it's, you know, I'd do like an interview after the third round,
Starting point is 00:17:50 and, you know, the guy's asked me, but I can tell like the tone of it is like basically you've been playing like dog shit like like where is this coming from right but as a player I'm like no I've been playing well like but you get tired saying that when you're not actually scoring well you just see score at the end of the day it's like 73 you know like he's obviously I don't ask you how you shot 77 slews I just know you just know I get the job done bro correct because I know you get those pops 100% but you look at tori pines I mean it cuts three under part there which it's a joke it's a major championship golf course. I know the north is a little easier, but the fairways are 12 yards wide, it feels like.
Starting point is 00:18:25 And didn't you shoot 200 at Tori? I did. Yeah. That's not bad golf. No, it's funny you say that because it's the first round. I play the south first. And I don't care. The weather was fantastic. But you were there, right? Okay, the rough was up. Yeah. I mean, it was four inches and it's standing straight up, overseed rye, and it's thick with Kukuya. I mean, if you miss the fairway, you're in trouble. And I think if you were to ask most guys on tour any day of the year to go shoot even par at Tori, you've done okay. Hell yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:18:55 Par or better, you're on the south you've done well. So I shoot one over and I'm all right, that's fine. But in the back of my head, I'm like seeing these scores on the north. I'm like, geez, like this cut's probably going to be a couple under, which even a couple under is like low there. That's when you just feel like it's got to be even at best. Right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:12 I mean, it's how hard they've made the north. It's not like a layup anymore. It's not like a shoot 68 over there. I mean, the best way I could describe the north is, you know, it used to be like very short. Yeah. they've got 11 or 12 like quality fairly difficult holes the the differences you can just destroy the par fives because they're all like very reachable and there's two borderline drivable par force so you got six like really good opportunities whereas like on the south you basically have none because you can't reach the par fives yeah you know and the greens on the north are redone bent they're pure like you can fill it up on the north and in the south you're like knee knocking four footers all day but it just shows you too like how good the quality of golf has gotten too.
Starting point is 00:19:53 And I think the average viewer at home wouldn't realize how much the cut going from 70 in ties to 65 in ties change things. Like it's made some cuts just weird numbers. Right. And so I haven't seen these numbers directly, but I had heard, you know, they basically ran the numbers the one, two or three years before they changed it to 65. And they said that it would have affected like three cuts a year or something, right? That's it.
Starting point is 00:20:22 well, I just think people play whatever the amount is, it's going to be, like players are going to play well enough to make the cut if that makes sense. So like that happened. And then something like the first six out of eight events that they changed the cut, like it actually affected it. And so, you know, you talk to like some of the older guys on tour, maybe that have been out here at least like just call it 10 or 12 years, whatever.
Starting point is 00:20:47 And a lot of them would say like the cut, generally if you shot under par you'd pretty much make most of the cuts. And nowadays, I mean, you're seeing cuts at literally five, six under par sometimes out in Vegas.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Like three under par seems normal. Corned Ferry number. That's a great example of what you just said how, you know, when they did the research, it didn't affect it. But then if you think, like, say you're at whatever,
Starting point is 00:21:10 say you're even par in your T-67 in the old days and you got 15 feet. It's like, okay, let's just... Down and two. Yeah. We don't need to run this by. Now if you're T-167,
Starting point is 00:21:18 you're like, okay, I got to make this. You got to hoop it. Yeah. I think it's totally a strategic thing. And also, I think likely in the difference in, let's just call it a 10-year age group, is like success at an early age is like way more acceptable now. And it's like players come out at 21 to 25 and play awesome, win golf tournaments, win majors. Whereas like before, when I grew up, when I was, you know, 10 years old, whatever, like, it seemed to me like 30 was like considered pretty young on tour. Yeah, it was.
Starting point is 00:21:55 That was like a crime. Yeah. Yeah. Right. And now you're seeing, obviously you guys know. I mean, a lot of the best players in the world are literally 24, 25, 26, 27 years old. And so I think that there's a different attitude. but with the younger players, I think it's like, look, we're going to go freaking eat this place alive, no matter what it's like.
Starting point is 00:22:21 And they can do it. And they can do it. They're doing it. There just used to be like one guy. Maybe it would come out. Now it's like there's blocks of them coming out. Well, you were not too terrible as a young little pup coming up. You've been making tweets since you were embraces.
Starting point is 00:22:32 17 years old, you led the U.S. Open at Olympic. Looking back on now that you've had more time to be in the pro ranks, you grizzled that, like I said, if you look back on that, just like, holy shit, I was 17. Like, I didn't even know what I was. It was your second US Open. What I was doing, and it was your second, yeah. But I also look at that tournament, in my opinion,
Starting point is 00:22:53 as difficult as it is, when you go play that event with no expectation, it's like pars your friend. Like, when is that ever the case on tour? like you go shoot two over on the front you're like it's all good like let me get in the house a couple over and you're in contention shoot two over on the front in Vegas like I might as well not play the next day I mean literally I have to shoot 59 to make the couple nightclub but it's hard as shit to shoot two over yeah it is but I just think I think it's easier like
Starting point is 00:23:25 in my opinion when you play a harder course like I even still prefer to play harder courses because it's there's way more to it than just like let me go hit driving range shots you have to like play the game you have to be smart you have to strategize you have to miss in the right places and like i think that that starts to like narrow down the amount of players that can really like contend versus you go play um palm springs the you know the mx like can kind of spray it wherever you get a pretty mint lie you're hitting wedge on every hole the greens are pretty flat and it's like there's just not that much penalty for like making mental errors um and basically It's like a putting contest and a wedge contest, you know.
Starting point is 00:24:09 I think that's why you see, like, not to just overtalk Torrey Pines, but the best of the best rise to the top at Tori Pines, it seems like. I mean, you don't fake it around that place. No, no. And to be fair, like I was saying earlier, any day of the year that you played there, it's a little bit of firmness on the greens and maybe an inch more of rough away from a legit US Open golf course on any given day. Okay. But you know, you have the success at the U.S. Open at 17.
Starting point is 00:24:38 You know, you've played great in junior golf. Obviously, you're on a national scene now playing well at a major championship. Was there any thought of maybe bypassing college and getting started early? No. Good. I just, no. It wasn't even a consideration. I mean, this, like, I think that's incredibly, like, short-sighted, right?
Starting point is 00:24:58 To just think that you can play. Forget if it's a U.S. Open or a cornfairy event or whatever, but like you play a good one week. I mean, everybody. I mean, you broke apart before. Yeah, dude. He's looking at Siles.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Yeah. For our audio listeners. A couple of times, a couple of times, bro. And so I'm just saying, anybody can black out for a period of time. And it wasn't just one week. I played awesome that whole summer.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Like, you know, I won the junior world at Torrey Pines, which is, again, challenging event. And, um,
Starting point is 00:25:30 yeah, I just, I think that's short-sighted. Like, I think that there's value in playing to the appropriate competition and winning and contending, right? Because it's tough.
Starting point is 00:25:41 I mean, I look at, like, I was glad this week having played at Pebble and being in contention. And I know I didn't win, but, like, I felt, I felt more calm then than I do in 20th place. Interesting. And I don't know why that is. but I was really, really glad to feel like that again
Starting point is 00:26:08 because the fact is, if you're not playing great golf and you're on the PJ tour, you're not playing that many rounds that you have a chance to win a golf tournament. And so you're not putting yourself in a position to, you can't recreate the feeling that you have then, right? Like it only shows up when you're literally doing it.
Starting point is 00:26:27 And so I was excited about the fact that I felt really, really, really freaking, good. And I felt like I could win this tournament. No problem. Now, it came down to literally score. Like, I just didn't play well enough, but it was not like a, I'm not mentally prepared to win. Did you feel more comfortable because you feel more comfortable with your swing now after all this time? And you knew like this thing's in a good spot. I'm doing it over and over as opposed to like trying to grind to make the cut. And like, it's not all the way clicking here, but maybe I can just get to the weekend. I think the difference is, yeah. I mean, certainly like
Starting point is 00:27:00 the technical aspect helps because I feel. like the dispersion's tighter right like this is are smaller and I feel like I can I have a really good idea of what I'm trying to do like I was saying earlier but the main thing is when I'm playing well I was glad to not get ahead of myself I never thought about winning the golf tournament I didn't I knew you know I was three over through five holes like not from like a nervy start it was literally like the wind was all over the place we misjudged it a couple times it cost me and then I kind of got to like the meat of the golf course. Like, you know, like basically once you hit hole eight, you're kind of hanging on basically
Starting point is 00:27:39 the whole way in, especially if there's any win from the north because the whole back nine's into the wind. It's brutal. And I was freaking playing awesome. Like I was hitting quality shot after quality shot after quality shot, but I was never thinking beyond the shot that was in front of me. And I feel like sometimes when I'm in 20th place, I'm like trying to, trying to intentionally finish hot instead of just like let me just take this and do the best that I can with it be the
Starting point is 00:28:10 most committed that I can and whatever it is it is right like I think it's it's almost easier for me to swallow losing the tournament knowing that I didn't get ahead of myself and I was just very committed to what I was doing and I did a really good job of that and it's it's freaking hard to do I think this is going to be Sleez's most important episode to date for his preparation for the midam next year because he's one of those guys you know he goes out for the qualifier and he birdies the first toll and he starts writing his master's acceptance I've got every speech written no matter what I win Grammy Oscar masters it's dialed see this is great you should go back and listen to this before you tee it up yeah I'm not big into the one shot at a time I'm more like one
Starting point is 00:28:50 good shot think about right where we're going later yeah what are we going to do with all this money right that's more from the midam you know what I'm talking about from the midam right you know there's some all this money out you know what it's like you know what it's like you He went to Texas for a reason. I know you know what I'm talking about. He's faded USC. Why Texas being a California kid? I just,
Starting point is 00:29:12 I love the coach. Coach Fields is awesome. I don't know how well you know I'm called, but he's the best. I mean, he's the best. I sucked in high school, but whatever. Yeah, he's got a good idea. Was he right?
Starting point is 00:29:23 I don't know. I've worked out all right. Got me to a podcast. There you go. So I love the coach. Obviously the schools. Great. Academically, I was in business school there.
Starting point is 00:29:37 But I think the main thing for me was being around really good players. Seeing players go there and develop and become tour players and having success out here is huge. And having that competition on a day-to-day basis as well as in California, I grew up playing on Kakuya and Ryegrass, which is like the easiest thing ever to play on. and there was like a learning curve on playing in Bermuda and playing in weather that wasn't perfect every day and I think it made me better I mean I was literally inept on Bermuda
Starting point is 00:30:14 the day I showed up at campus like I would go play junior tournaments in Florida like at Sawgrass and I couldn't chip I couldn't make a four footer that was like a cross grain pot like all these things and if you're not you grew up on that but if you don't grow up on that that like it's it's different and it's it takes a lot of experience and so i mean literally the first
Starting point is 00:30:37 six months at at texas like i've struggled to chip and my short game's like i'm a good short game player that's what you do right and so um it took me a while and you know even still like i strongly prefer playing like i love the west coast swing like i love poana um i love cuckooia i love overseated rye like we have this week um in phoenix and i think it's easy to than when we go over and play the Honda and you're chipping off some tight, you know, grainy. Yeah, it's tough. And it's tough even for people that grew up playing on that.
Starting point is 00:31:10 But if you didn't, if I didn't have that experience going to Texas, like I would probably still struggle significantly more than I do. It's like learning a language. Yeah. You start early. It's way easier. You start at 20. It's hard. 100%.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Well, I know you had a lot of success in college, particularly your junior year, win the Haskins Award. You decide to turn pro a year early. Right. Take us through that process because, I mean, you're a year away from graduating. You know, one more year, maybe some more success in college, but you decided to turn early. What went through that decision? I think that you're always weighing, I mean, you're weighing opportunities, right? It's opportunity costs.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Like what was the cost of me going back to school? The cost was if I say I just go play okay. I play good, but I played awesome my junior year. I mean, I won six times. I won the Haskins Award. In a way, I felt like I was ready to compete professionally. And that's the majority of the reason, right? It's like I would never advise someone to go and play at any level
Starting point is 00:32:16 until they're ready to actually compete. Like, if you don't think you can go and contend, I don't think it's worth playing. So that's the first thing. I thought I was ready to play. second thing was I was in a really good position to get starts on the PJ tour I figured that I'd probably be able to get six or seven starts which I did I had good financial sponsor opportunities in front of me because I think you know for for people at home I don't think they understand how many people get caught in the rut of playing golf
Starting point is 00:32:53 to like live right it's it's tough if you don't have money to start your career and I'm sure that you did having won the US amateur like that's a big big advantage huge and so I had that in front of me and I think that whole combination of feeling like my game was ready not having to play for money and having opportunity to play at the highest level I felt like I could I could go do it and I really like I kind of figured that out like halfway through the spring season when I I had probably won, I mean, three or four tournaments at that time. And, um,
Starting point is 00:33:33 the Jones Cup that year too. Yeah, I did. So yeah, I was playing, I was playing well. I didn't, I didn't, I'd won the Western Amateur, uh, the year before. And I just, I felt like I was ready to go. And, um, you know, I blew my shoulder out the last, last tournament of the year at the national championship. And at that point, right, it's like, whoa, all right.
Starting point is 00:33:54 well how much of the a first how bad is this injury and it was pretty freaking bad um because like i i blow my shoulder out on the semi final of the national championship and our team is stacked i mean literally like basically our whole team's on the pj tour and i can't play in the final and i have to forfeit my point um so we're playing you know it's five on five, well, you have to win three matches, and we just forfeited one. So we have to win three out of four matches to win the national championship. And we ended up losing in a playoff to Oregon, which is brutal. But I'm thinking, like, all right, I got the U.S. Open Qualifier next week.
Starting point is 00:34:44 I'm turning pro tomorrow, and I got the U.S. open qualifier next week. Like, I got to get my shoulder ready, even though I just dislocated it five times. Like, it's all good. Whatever. Put some dirt on. Yeah, I just tape it up. and I tried to like tape it up at that tournament I didn't know I didn't even know what the torn labor was
Starting point is 00:35:00 I had no idea I just knew my freaking shoulder came out of socket multiple times and it hurt really bad but and ended up being you know I went and got I went and got a pin you know I got an MRI and my whole the whole like back capsule my shoulder was blown out like the entire thing and so like if I were to try and do like a plank like basically it wasn't even sturdy enough to hold it in place.
Starting point is 00:35:29 So the first doctor, he's like, you need to get surgery. I'm like, what do you know? You're just a doctor. I'm like, who are you? What are you a doctor? I did three years of business. Right. Am I kidding me?
Starting point is 00:35:41 I went to class like at least half the time. Exactly. I'm no rook. Right. And so I ended up going and seeing Dr. Cooper, Dr. Dan Cooper in Dallas, Cowboys doctor. You know him. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:53 great dude and he told me he's like you have to do this I'm like all right if two guys told me I gotta do it I gotta do it two doctors told me they probably right right right there's a cowboy is he probably right yeah and I told him I did three three years business school I'm like yeah you can't this slide this last opportunity cost in this podcast clearly I went to business correct yeah and so um he's like you gotta do it I'm like okay like how long is it like a month he's like no it's like it's you're not gonna touch a golf club for four months and then you're going to play in your PJ tour debut and swing 11 miles an hour
Starting point is 00:36:28 slower than you did when you tour your colder great oh perfect okay cool yeah I'll turn pro tomorrow so anyways um I did I you know I was very spot very lucky to have like my sponsor stick by me that I you know we had obviously worked on these deals they were ready to go and um you know there was like we had to construct them a little differently but like they were they were solid and and that was a really big deal, especially with, like, uncertainty. You don't know how you're going to come back immediately from that. I was confident that if I got healthy again,
Starting point is 00:36:59 which I felt good about, that I would play great golf. But I didn't know if that meant in six months or a year or two years. I didn't, I've never even had a surgery before. And so, anyway, surgery went great. I busted my ass in the rehab. I mean, it was literally three to four hours a day, every day for five months.
Starting point is 00:37:21 So, you know, I did that. It was nice to not have to juggle school. Like, I literally woke up and just grinded rehab. Started three days after surgery. Most people start six weeks after and just grinded. But yeah, I mean, I still, like, I, Colt, you would agree with this. Like, there's so much, there are so many players that are physically talented enough to compete at a high level, but there are not, like, the difference is the guys that believe that they can and then actually go and do it. when it matters, right?
Starting point is 00:37:53 And so I've never lost that. Like, even though I wasn't physically in great form when I came back, like, it took me a full year to, like, get any kind of resemblance of speed back. Like I was playing, I ended up playing my six or seven exemptions on tour. Like I said, like literally 10, 10 or 11 miles an hour club speed slower. That's a big change. It's huge.
Starting point is 00:38:16 And I wasn't long. And that's not just the driver. I mean, that's, no, I'm hitting six irons from like 170. And right now I'm hitting that. I was playing cold nose golf. See how hard that shit is. And I didn't hit it long then. I mean,
Starting point is 00:38:28 I hit it significantly longer now than I did even before I hurt my shoulder. But, you know, I go and play those exemptions and I don't make enough points to even get in the corn finals. And then, you know, golf's freaking crazy, man. I go and Monday qualified and 40-mile-hour wins in Wichita. Like, you know when you're, you would know what this is. When you're driving, I was driving to Tahoe,
Starting point is 00:38:51 when you're driving a Tahoe on the freeway and it's blowing you between lanes like that's when it's blow and blowing and that's what it was like it was honestly probably perfect for a Monday qualifier because if it wasn't it would have been like nine under to get through
Starting point is 00:39:03 and it only took two under God moving a Tahoe and a golf ball yeah a little boy Monday's in Wichita Monday qualify finished second and just just get it rolling that got me enough points
Starting point is 00:39:14 I had no status oh so the point was I didn't go to go to Q school because I was hurt yeah so I had no status and so I get status on the corn fairy tour at the time it was the web dot com tour and ended up just in those 12 events making enough uh they did money back then making enough money to get my card yeah just quick like that like yeah i mean so i went from literally no status on any tour to tour pj tour in
Starting point is 00:39:43 june to what is september's napa right of three months yeah just a handful of events like 12 yeah you finished 23rd did that even surprise us you though coming off the injury like all right i'm just back playing i got no status anywhere let's do some of these mondays like you're a great player you're soon to get in but like playing your way on a tour is a different deal yeah but it's kind of like what i was saying earlier about like playing golf at pebble yesterday like i was just trying to take it literally one round to the time like i have no status like if i start trying to like do this i'm like let me get into a place where let me play in an event that if i play well i can actually like parlay this and
Starting point is 00:40:18 see if i can play well and i did um and so yeah it's it's kind of it's it's crazy how the game of golf works like sometimes great results come out of nowhere other times you're playing really well and not seeing anything and then it pops and it's just a crazy game then you go into the last vent in Portland 25th so you're right there like you know dude that's a nerve right like make the cut probably okay miss dirt nap so um I'm 25th and it's weird because the way those weeks work is like all you ever see is the freaking projections. Like that's all you see.
Starting point is 00:40:56 And I'll give you an example. Say the guy who's 90th, right? He tees off first on Thursday and makes a birdie. They project him number one. They give him $500,000 at the time. And they're like, oh, he's projecting number three in the in the standings. You're like, okay, well, I just got bumped because homie just made a birdie on the first hole. You know what I mean? So all you see is that and you try and stay away from it.
Starting point is 00:41:21 but it is what it is. I knew going in that I figured, and it was funny, like I had played, since I didn't get status until kind of late in the year, I'd played a bunch. Like I'd played like 13 tournaments in a row. This was my 13 tournament in a row. And I am beat, ass, tired.
Starting point is 00:41:38 And I'm like, I just need to grind this week out. Like, I'm not in good form at all. Like, frankly, a top 20 would be like I got a lot out of it. And I kind of just went into it. the attitude I was telling you about like the last round at Pebble. So I'm like, I'm just going to literally take one shot at time because at least if I don't play well, I know the process was as good as it could be. And I ended up finishing, I think I finished like 20th, 19th in the tournament.
Starting point is 00:42:08 And I think I finished maybe like 23rd or something on the points list or the money list. Yeah. It goes 23rd and get your PJ tour card. Right. So, oh, good story about that week. So I go play the Wednesday Pro Am. that week. And the next morning,
Starting point is 00:42:22 I'm at like 8 a.m. It's like a noon shotgun. And it's the, I believe the tournament is sponsored by WinCo. WinCo, yes. Which is a grocery store. Grocery store pro-ams,
Starting point is 00:42:39 they're flying everybody in. The best. And I'm going to go with minimum 50% of the amateurs have never touched a golf club before. Beautiful prep, dude. And I show up to the, it was in carts, which was big. And I meet the people that I'm playing with.
Starting point is 00:43:00 They go, we're from so-and-so. Great. Yeah, we're really excited. It's our first time. Like, oh, first time Pumpkin Ridge, like, no. First time playing golf. I'm just like, we can't wait. There we go.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Right. And so it was, it was six hours until they, or I think they blew the horn at five and a half hours. and we had played 14 holes. And I'm like, this is just the ideal prep for the 25 guy on the money list before he's going for his tour card. The next. Teaching the average am I out of grip it. Yeah. And so I make the cut and I get paired with Jason Gore on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Yes. That's my dad. And I am thrilled because, I mean, I'm nervous, man. I mean, it's a big, big freaking week. I mean, arguably the biggest week, honestly, of golf in my life to this point even. Yeah. It's like final stage of Q school. Right, it is.
Starting point is 00:43:51 Final round. Right. Yeah. And so I get paired with Jason Gore and he is just, I mean, he's the best. And it really like lighten the mood and it helped me a lot. It's crazy how, I mean, it shouldn't matter. But when you get that good pairing. It matters.
Starting point is 00:44:07 It does. I don't care with any. Every sport psychologist says it shouldn't fucking matter. But it does matter. It matters. It absolutely freaking matters. You like, you want to get to a place where it doesn't matter. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:19 But the fact is, is like, you know some dudes that you get parroth, you're like, ugh. And then other guys, you are thrilled, right? Just because you know, like, it's nice to have some chill stuff in between shots even. Just a dude you can talk to that you don't hate. Shoot the shit. Like, talk about whatever, football, whatever. Like, it's a long round, man.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Like, you're out there, you know, close to five hours. And five hours of important shots is mentally grueling. Like, it's a lot of, I think there's a big advantage. to being able to really dial in your focus for short periods of time and then somehow get away from it. And I just think if you get that type of pairing, it has to help in that regard. The best in the world that I've ever seen at that. As far as just like, he focuses for a short amount of time and get away, one of the best. Pat Perez. Like, it is greatness to me. He goes and hits a shot. Right. Whatever, cusses himself, cusses himself. And then he's over there talking about
Starting point is 00:45:15 what happened in the basketball game that night. Like, it's just, it's really cool to watch. Right. Yeah, I think that's, it's a big advantage to be able to do that because I think you're sharper if you only have to focus for an hour and a half instead of five hours. I know you said you've been really, really good at not getting ahead of yourself, but I want to go to Houston when you had a really good chance to win on the PGA tour. And Ian Poulter just buried another putt over here in America to force a playoff. Yep. Give me your, what was, when the ball was rolling to the hole, give me your thoughts. Well, can we put the rewind? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Okay. Yeah. And I don't want you to quote me on these numbers, but they're pretty close. When we were on hole 11, I was like four back. You've played that course. Yeah. It's pretty getable. But there's also shit everywhere.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Yeah. So I make like, I think I made four birdies in like a six whole stretch to get tied for the lead going into hole 18. Oh, no, no, I'm sorry. I was four back. I think I made four birdies and he had made a bogey. I had a one shot lead going into a whole 18. And that T-ball is brutal. Like brutal, brutal, brutal.
Starting point is 00:46:32 And like the whole field just blows it in the right bunker. Blows it right bunker. Right. Well, here's the problem, dude. 190-yard bunker shot with that green when it was like, there was fairly significant wind off the right is not fun. Trying to win for the first time. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:45 Yeah. And so I blow it in the bunker. And I, I hit a I did I I freaking hate fairway bunkers like I hate them they're impossible
Starting point is 00:46:55 and like you put that circumstance I'm like it's fucking brutal so I hit a sick eight iron from like it's like 180 and I'm just gonna ship this thing and I hammer this eight iron right at and it comes like short of this ridge and I have
Starting point is 00:47:09 I'm gonna say 25 feet and Ian Poulter hits it five feet in front of me on the exact same line and I don't remember if I had to move his coin or not, but it was literally the same putt. I'm like, I got to fucking make this. Like, he's a really good putter.
Starting point is 00:47:29 I'm going to literally show him what this putt does. And I hit, and don't watch this. Close your eyes. I hit, like, honestly, as good as a putt as I could ever ask to hit. I mean, literally drip speed, high side. Ball's breaking right to left with right to left wind with no pace, hits the right edge, and, like, straightens. and goes an inch past
Starting point is 00:47:52 tap it in and I told Gilth my caddy at the time I go sure as shit he's gonna make this It's disgusting isn't it I just I just showed him the line
Starting point is 00:48:03 I'm saying like I'm a good putter Yeah If someone shows me the line And the greens are true Which those greens when they overseated Were as good as you would play on tour I'm like he's gonna fucking hoop this And he hit it dead
Starting point is 00:48:13 I mean he had a perfect put And give him credit I mean this was not like a Oh he kind of like willed in Like dude this was walking that thing. Yeah, as soon as he hit, he's like, I just watched this put not snap towards the water.
Starting point is 00:48:26 If it does the same thing, which there it's going to do, it's going to go right in the fucking middle, and it went right in the middle. And so, you know, we go back and play that hole again. But even though he made it, and you know, you showed him a great line, was there still just like, just, do you feel like you get punched in the gut a little bit?
Starting point is 00:48:43 No, I honestly knew he was going to make it. Okay. That's... He hits you with the... Yeah. He hits you with that, too. I felt like, just, Like he was trying to set the tone for the playoff right there. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:48:53 I mean, look, he hit a freaking hell of a pot, man. Like, what are you going to do? And birdie in that hole. Yeah, but not on my guy, Bo. Don't do Bo like that. It's the hardest hole in the course. It's arguably one of the harder finishing holes in golf. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:06 And he made an unbelievably clutch birdie. I don't think he had won on tour in a long time. Yep. You know, at least three or five years. I mean, that was huge. That was like it's kind of revitalization. Yeah. And not to mention, like, I had just.
Starting point is 00:49:20 just freaking like punched him in the mouth on the back nine like we weren't head and head the whole time like I had fell behind early and I was like coming back so that was it was unbelievable I've given all the credit in the world those a hell of a hell of a put and you know we got in the playoff and I hit it in the right bunker and he's going to make par he has to two put from 18 feet and that right bunker shot is you know it's just brutal and so I tried to freaking hit it tight and I hit it too far in the water and obviously it's ballgame at that point. But no, I mean, again, that was like, oh, that was a, that was a moment where I was three, four back with eight to play. I'm like, look, I'm going to freaking dial in every shot to the best of my ability.
Starting point is 00:50:05 And if they go in, they go in. If they don't, they don't. But like, what are you going to do? I felt calm again in that moment, which is awesome. And you hear people talk about that. and it sounds like bullshit but I think that that's something that going back to the thing where I said like I think it's important to play where you can compete right like you can't replace that experience
Starting point is 00:50:29 of feeling those emotions and I think that every time you experience them you get better especially if you can ideally like kind of run them together where there's not like such a big time in between but can't replace that. I don't think there's any way to practice that feeling.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Yeah. Well, the game's obviously gotten a lot better. Yeah. I mean, you're in a great place right now. You've always been a great putter. The swings continuing to get better. I would imagine big things are coming for Bo Hossler. And by big things, I mean the emergency nine.
Starting point is 00:51:02 Oh. Yes. It's an emergency. Down to the quick hits. It's an emergency. First question, where did you get that jacket? Love that shit. Can I tell the Kelly Craft quote on this?
Starting point is 00:51:13 Yeah, what was it? So we're in the airport at Monterey. I'm wearing a... Is this on film or is this a radio? Yeah, yeah. I got a little... I don't even know what you call it. It's maybe a suede bomber.
Starting point is 00:51:23 It's Peter Mlar's Swade. Yeah, I don't know the name of it. It's Swade, though. Let's go to that. Well, I'm not like a fashion guy. Pretty much my entire wardrobe is just off close that I got for free. So, um, Kelly comes up to me in the airport yesterday.
Starting point is 00:51:39 He goes, you know him. He's like, guys always dressed to the nines. Like got his Gucci shoes on the whole night. He goes, you can't hide money. And I go, you're wrong. You can't hide shop credit because I would never buy this thing. I got this off of the Peter Millar gift card that I got. This is Pete Miller.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Shout out Peter Millar. Petty. Todd Martin. Appreciate you. Yeah. Toddie. All right. We ask this to everyone.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Number one, trade lives with anyone for a day, dead or alive. Who's it going to be? You get to be them. whole day. Oh, man, that's a tough one. I don't know. I mean, I'd say Tiger Woods, but I mean, the fame deal sounds pretty brutal. It's just a day.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Yeah, I could do it for a day. That'd be a tiger for a day. You'd be all right for a day. Yeah, I mean, like, I don't know if a tiger right now. But like 2000 Tiger. Yeah, that'd be pretty. You can pick a day. You can run that 97 Masters back and just cruise around and get, you know, slurped the whole way.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Wouldn't be a bad deal. That is a good thing. Wouldn't be the worst thing. All right. You get one night out on 6th Street in Austin with one UT alum of any sport ever. Who you want to spend, who are you hanging with? Ooh. Good one.
Starting point is 00:53:04 See, these are supposed to be quick answers. The problem is you ask for a quick answer. You're like a thinker, though. I know. Every time I do something like this, this is my least favorite thing. All right. You know, there's a lot of options. So it has to be a sportsman from Texas?
Starting point is 00:53:15 No, it could be any UT alum. Oh, any UT alum. Any UT alum ever, one night, but you're going to send it. You ever been to 6th Street? Yeah, You ever heard of it? Yeah, it's the worst. Oh, it's the worst?
Starting point is 00:53:26 Too dirty, dude, too loud. Well, there's dirty. It's more like, you're not wearing your sway jacket to 6th Street. Yeah, dude, just show up to 9, bro. You're getting taken care of. You know what I mean? Show this guy, velvet ropes. Um, I might go Colt McCoy on this one, actually.
Starting point is 00:53:41 Oh, he did. That'd probably be a fun night. He did a big resident. Yeah. Oh, that's right. He's in the house. Yeah. He's in the house.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Great dude. Seemack. And his younger brother, Case. I was actually in school with when he was playing at Texas. Another great dude. Yeah. It's the whole fam. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:56 Coal McCoy's still in the league and made him zillion. I don't think he's had to get hit in a while. Dude, he's kind of nice when he comes in, though. Stepped in for Kyle or won two games. Yeah, he stepped in. He might be stepping in a lot more. Oh, yeah, he's playing for the Cardinals. That's right.
Starting point is 00:54:09 He might be stepping in a lot more. All right. On your PJ Tour profile, it's got all these nice accolades, all this thing, but under special interests, it's empty. Really? Yeah. Oh, okay. So either talk to your management team or is it just that you don't have any special interest?
Starting point is 00:54:25 No, my special interest is the Los Angeles Dodgers. Okay. And broad NFL football. Chargers. Chargers fan, but I'd love, like, let's put it's this way. If it's baseball, I'm not watching unless Dodgers are playing. I will watch any NFL game. Did you get to meet mooky bets at Pavell? I did.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Oh, no. Is there a bad story? No. I did. I was really pumped. I mean, like, I never met the guy. He's just quiet, which is cool. But, like, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:54:59 And so I was trying to kind of shoot the shit with him, and it just kind of wasn't. He wasn't having it. No, it wasn't having it. He didn't know I had two Dodgers head covers on my bag. Yeah, he should know. Playing with Jar Jar Jar Spawn. Jar Beans. Jar Jar Spawn.
Starting point is 00:55:13 I like that. All right, next one. Who do you think completes their college degree online first? You are Colt. Oh. You're both right there, guys. A couple of bullshit online classes away from... Oh, mine aren't bullshit.
Starting point is 00:55:28 That's the problem. Mosier Major. It's like speeding tickets. Communications. Okay, yeah. We don't really have probably cold because I have to actually do an internship. So I'm going to do it, though. You are?
Starting point is 00:55:38 Yeah, I will do it. You have to do an internship? Yeah, for the business school. What do you got to do? Sociology, you didn't have to do it. I don't know what the hell he had to do it. I don't know what the hell you have left, though. At 18 hours left.
Starting point is 00:55:49 Okay. Yeah, you're in front of me too. I got three jobs, though. I don't have time for that shit. All right. Well, it sounds like the motivations in my corner. Yeah. Like you were saying that whole thing about believing you can do it?
Starting point is 00:55:57 Yeah, I don't believe I can do it. I'll do it then. Got me thinking. We could use a good intern here on the bar, dude. We got a lot of copies that need to be made, Red Bulls. You're also out of tequila. And transfusions that need to be fetched. We're out of tequila.
Starting point is 00:56:09 See, that never happened if you were here. That's why I'm on the look for doing. We're going to offer that up. If you need real world business experience, we'll hire you. I mean, that's the thing. To go back and finish that SMU, Colt's going to have to forfeit like five years worth of salary here at the Subpart Media Co.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Can't do that. I like to live a rather lavish lifestyle. Oh, I know. That doesn't work for me. All right. I like that question. That was good, though. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:56:31 All right. Let's say we go back in time to that Houston open putt. Okay. Ian Poulter is going to miss it. But in order for him to miss it, you have to dress like Ian Poulter for the rest of your career. Will you do it? Like, are we talking?
Starting point is 00:56:47 Ian Poulter like present day because that's not no back in the like the gold all gold everything frosted when it was his design the IJC and you got to wear the little baby visor not the big boy diesel I got to wear the lane tiffin you got to wear the little I have a name for it which I won't say but you go wear that
Starting point is 00:57:03 visor the baby one that's an unbelievable question the baby one bro think of you but let me ask you this frosted tips I got a right tipped up you're from mission VA you're basically just got here okay but here's the question you said that he's not going to make the puck Yeah, you win.
Starting point is 00:57:18 You win. Right, I win, but I'm saying if he makes it, am I still going to the playoff? No. No. You're making it's too hard. You lost. You win Houston.
Starting point is 00:57:28 No wonder you never graduated business school, bro. You get to win Houston. No matter how they'll have done, you win Houston, but you have to dress like Ian Poulter back in the day. Yeah. That's tough. I think I'll take my chances
Starting point is 00:57:39 winning a different tournament. Is it the clothes more so that leads you that, or the visor, the baby visor? If there were someone, was going to do it like he did it i didn't love it but i'm saying i respected it now me wearing that stuff those colors like the big belt buckle frosted tips like i just i couldn't i couldn't respect myself god you'd look great you would look nice might would the jack would i'd have to get like a pink one you could warm up in that that's like all day oh that's normal
Starting point is 00:58:10 you'd be like oh it's casual yeah it's like your tearaways more around our next question does it concern you at all that my dog gris has not been the same ever since he ate a portion of your underwear at the phoenix open a couple years ago and he buried the rest in the backyard and guess what there's roses grown in that backyard he's been limping around ever since he was so normal and then he ate some of that and buried the rest and now he's not the same dog i know i know i heard he's big time dude he's he couldn't even get him in the studio today i know dude he's got it's got it's a freaking monday night what's he got going on he's never been the same though but he's asking about you you so we'll get you back in there.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Got another one now. Colton named him. I did. Yeah, Wally White. Walter White. Yeah, he's all white. He's a all white gris. Oh, really? Yeah, dude, you love him. I did name him.
Starting point is 00:58:58 He's a G. All right. There's a website called famous birthdays.com. Not sure if you're aware of it. But you can type in any name and it'll show, you know, who, I say it's June 26. Sure. Most famous people on that. Well, you can also just type in a name.
Starting point is 00:59:11 You type in Bo, but you're just spelled B-E-A-U. So it's a little different. French. And it'll list off. the most famous bows in order. Where do you think Boe Hostler ranks?
Starting point is 00:59:21 Oh, God. Oh, shit. In the world of famous bows. B-E-A-U bows, though. Yeah. So no Jackson. Damn, who's your famous bow? Maybe I'm being
Starting point is 00:59:31 arrogant, but I don't think that I even know another person with my name that's spelled that. Is Schembechler? I don't know. I would say, I'd hope I'm in the top ten.
Starting point is 00:59:44 Yeah. Are you going to it? Not even close. 100? No, they don't list 100. First off, there's only like seven Colts listed, and I'm not one of those. Oh, okay. There's a lot of Bose.
Starting point is 00:59:55 First off, you lost to a YouTube star named Bo Brooks. Never heard of them. Bo Biden. No, rest in peace. Yep. There's a lot of them. You were number 47. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:00:05 But you made the list. Yeah, you didn't even make it? No. There's only seven Colts. You got McCoy. They don't have a, to be fair, they don't have a picture of you. It just says golfer 26 years old. Oh, dude.
Starting point is 01:00:16 That's not the most flattering egg picture of you. 47. Who are the Colts besides McCoy? Colt Ford, number one. Colt Ford over a Colt McCoy. Really? I just saw Colt. He plays in that Pebble Beach every year. To be fair, though, looking at this list, you're the only bull I've heard of.
Starting point is 01:00:34 That's what I'm saying. Yeah. There's a girl in front of there's a lot of TikTok stars, YouTube stars. Was that a girl named Boe right there on the top of? Yeah, Bo Popman. She's 19 TikTok star. Bo Garrett, movie actors. She's 39.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Okay. Hey, you made the list. Yeah, I'm on it. You got to be. Be proud. Top fitty. You got to be, yeah, top fitty. You got to be, I get you in Augusta.
Starting point is 01:00:57 You got to be heavier. I don't even know why I looked at that. You got to get heavier on TikTok. I've been telling you that. All right, next question for me. Who spends more time in front of the mirror? Your pro-scatch partner, Taylor Wood, before adding out to the range in the morning or Beyonce before going on stage at the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:01:15 Oh, that's the mannequin. T. Yeah. A hundred percent. If there's one hair out of place, he ain't playing. He does WDs. Correct. He makes Adam.
Starting point is 01:01:25 I thought he just woke up perfect. No, that's what he wants. He wants to look effortless. There's so much maintenance. That's the thing. Sleez is always like, oh, yeah,
Starting point is 01:01:32 you know, I'm better looking at whatever. I think what Sleez is getting that is, it's just, it's just, he's just thinking he's lower maintenance. Of course, dude. Look at the gear.
Starting point is 01:01:39 Yeah. You came swagged out. You tuck those pants into the socks? Well, my legs are too big. They don't go all the way down. God. All right.
Starting point is 01:01:47 All right. Last one. Most people your age, you know, look up to Tiger Woods, idolize him that's in the golf world. Do you find it all weird at all that you modeled your golf swing after Colin Montgomery? I did. You used to. Yeah, it sucks. It changed.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Because it was so Monty before. The visor, the lower body out, finish. It was Monty. Is it not as much anymore? No, it's very disappointing. I mean, I'm happy to play. It's way not Monty now. He used to be super vertical on my vault through scratching the butt.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Was that kind of, was that, was he your guy growing up? You ever gone on Mori Povich and find out, like, maybe? You are the, he is the daddy. I don't know why I did that. I think I still swing pretty similar enough. Well, he was an incredible iron player. He's one of the best. Yeah, he led the European tour and ball striking like 100 times. Yeah, what do you want the order of Mary about 20 times?
Starting point is 01:02:36 I guess that maybe I should go back to that. Never rolled it like you. I just hit that shaft is vertical at the finish. Get it up and down, scratch that ass. Right. That's how you know you finish. If I can get the driver head, like, touch in the back of my knees, I'm in business. If the wedge sticks in your butt crack, you know you're right.
Starting point is 01:02:50 You're finishing on that left side. Optimized. That's it. Every teacher teaches it. All right. Well, ladies and gentlemen, the Boe Show. Thank you so much. You.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Thanks for having me. All right. Well, that was Bo Hossler on golf subpar. Dude, he's a very well thought out dude. As you can tell in a lot of his answers. You know, you and I, we kind of just our mouth speaks faster than our brain goes. Him, he sits there. He thinks about it.
Starting point is 01:03:15 He thinks about the proper response. We can teach him a lot. I just start blurting out words and hope at some point in the middle I find it. He sits there. He contemplates, man. The guy is a thinker, and he's just such a good dude, too. I feel like not a lot of people have gotten to see that from Boasra. But, like, he stayed with me at the Phoenix.
Starting point is 01:03:30 So he's always joking around, laughing. He gets on the course and gets a little, like, you know, more business like everybody else. But, man, if this kid starts to play the way he can and starts winning some golf tournaments, you can see a lot more him. And he's a really easy dude to root for it. You mentioned about when he stayed with you and your dog ate his underwear. Yeah, he's never recovered. Can you confirm they were tidy whiteies? These things were, I think they were a different size than they were now.
Starting point is 01:03:51 The man's trimmed up a little bit. My dog went in there and got after his room a little bit like he's going to do. He was just a little pup at the time. And he came out. And I swear to God, the guy's never been the same. He dragged him outside and buried him in the yard. And he's been walking with a little left. One of his eyes kind of points to the side now.
Starting point is 01:04:04 He's always running into shit. I don't know what both's got going on. But he's a great dude, man, a really, really nice kid. Like you said, dude, been good from the jump. I mean, he was leading the U.S. Open wearing braces. And when he talked about it, he's like, yeah, you know, that's a, you know, that's a easier one to lead. Like, pars are great out there.
Starting point is 01:04:20 I'm like, yeah, they're just hand in pars out there. Tiger Woods is in the field. Everybody else in the field that's pretty damn good. We've playing golf for 20 years. They're playing the same golf course. He was like, yeah, that's just, you know, I didn't think I was ready. That's a pretty easy one to lead. I love his pro-am story playing with guys they've never played.
Starting point is 01:04:33 First off, that's the worst. Like, I'm glad you're out there getting introduced to the game, but to play a pro on the PGA tour, a corned tour, like, we need to have like a handicap limit. I'll never forget one year at Colonial. I can relate to this. I can relate to this. I get the score card. and it's like two handicapped, six handicapped, 10 handicapped, and a zero.
Starting point is 01:04:50 I'm like, oh, God, I got some players today. So we get to it and they announce the guys and the guy that's a zero tees up and whiffs it twice. I'm like, what the? I was like, what's, what happened? Then he kind of just tops it off and I'm like, you all right, bud? You're a little nervous? Scratch, huh? I was like, it says you're a zero handicap.
Starting point is 01:05:06 He goes, oh, no, I've never played before. That's just zero rounds ever. It's like, oh, my God. This is going to be a long day. And by the way, like, if you've never played golf before, like, would you want your first ever experience to be in front of pros on a course where you got a more or less like add them up and it kind of, like, why not go to the range a few times, maybe cruising nine at the Muni? Just kind of feel your way into it. I wouldn't want to just be thrown into that if I'd never played before. It's time now to get to some gambling with our guys at Fandulisle.
Starting point is 01:05:34 You know, we've been hot. We've been real hot. You had Victor Holland last week. We're close. He was there. I mean, final group. What more can you ask for? But it is on to the Honda Classic.
Starting point is 01:05:43 Last week, we had the top 10 in the world all there. This week, they're all gone. Perfect. So, here we go. This one's going to be a tough one to bet. But I believe if anybody can do it, it's gravy in the sleeves. Of course, dude. We're up for it.
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Starting point is 01:07:00 Stay in the present. Honda Classic this week where I believe your career. I hate this place. I'm not sure that I'll even watch a second of it. It's like a flashback. PTSD sets in. They show that 11th hole where it all died for me. me over there on the 11 after perfect opening nine everything was fine just decided to try to be a
Starting point is 01:07:16 hero i get sweaty palms i started like you're hitting the left rough you're dead there's no it's just there's just no let up i hope they get some wind i hope they get it a little bit tough if it's calm they're still going to kill it but if it's windy it changes that whole place and there's a beast obviously meteorologists have been wrong before but i looked at the forecast thursday it's sunny every day 83 degrees 10 to 20 on thursday 5 to 10 Friday 10 to 20 Saturday 5 to 10 Sunday A little disappointing. Need that 10 to 20 to be an actual 20. Yes.
Starting point is 01:07:43 And maybe drop that temperature down like it is in December when I was on a death march around that place. Well, the favorite is sung J.M. Going off at 10 to 1. I believe followed by Daniel Berger. For me, my favorite. I'm going with a guy. Just finished tied for 14th at the W.M. Phoenix opened. His first start of the year.
Starting point is 01:07:59 Lives down there in South Florida. When the wind blows, I mean, you've got to be a good ball striker. Who swings it better and hits it pure? Louis, who stays in 20 to 1. 20 to 1 for Louis. Hard guy to bad against. Seems when he shows up. is good. I feel like he plays so little.
Starting point is 01:08:11 We know he practices very little. The first tournament's back, that's his practice. Like, just getting ready. You know what I mean? Just getting back into form, and he plays well on those every time. His record, his first tournament of the year is an absolute joke. I believe it's 13 times. He has like three wins and nine top tens. I mean, he's always there. He got more runner-ups and majors, too. I mean, he's just
Starting point is 01:08:28 all over the place. So Louis, I like that pick. I'm going to go with one here. Could be a surprise, could be the least surprise. Guy just had a pretty good week. Joaquin Neiman. Wow. Going off at 16 to one. So I know he used a lot of energy. I know he's exhausted. He said it felt like a month, even though it was a week this past week.
Starting point is 01:08:43 But, dude, he's 23 years old. He's got the thing slotted right now. He's hitting it so good. Like I said, let him strokes gain approach first 36 and strokes game putting. This is a big tough golf course ball striking wise. I got to think that the swing doesn't completely leave him. If he shows up there with any type of gas at all, I think he can contend with this field. And he lives there. And he lives down there. Exactly. He's used to the Bermuda, the wind, all that. I'm going to ride the hot hand this week. It's second win. Maybe there's a hangover, but I still like him out there. All right, I'm going with the Dark Horse here for my next pick.
Starting point is 01:09:14 He is 60 to 1. He's got two top tens this PGA Tour season, had a top five at the Honda last year. Arguably, I don't know if it's arguably. He's the best butter on the PGA tour. I believe he did something, Led Strokes game putting, like three seasons in a row. Denny McCarthy. D. Mac. Rolls the pill.
Starting point is 01:09:32 And I think his caddy Derek Smith still hates us. I think he does too. I'm rude for you this week. We love you. We love you. We didn't mean anything. It's a big ball. I mean, it's a tough ball strike the golf course.
Starting point is 01:09:44 He's the best putter out there. I don't know. We'll see if you can get it around. Teeter Green. It's a dark course. But damn. Yeah, 60 to 1. How about it?
Starting point is 01:09:51 All I'm staying with a little theme here. I'm going all Chileans for my picks this week. My second pick, Mito Pereira, 41 to 1. Okay, a little Chilean takeover. We finished 15th last week at Rift. He's a flusher. So many of the guys from the Corn Ferry Tour that are playing with him like this kid is really, really good. He's got it.
Starting point is 01:10:08 Smashes it. Pures it. Kind of the same deal. Pudding a little if. Had a third up in Napa earlier this year, but just coming off his best finish since that this past week. A little diluted field, I think you can get a guy like Mito coming up and taking this thing. So I'm going 41 to one Mito Pereira, all Chileans for the team slees. So go low this summer and bet on the PGA tour. Just download the Fandual Sportsbook app and sign up using promo code subpar to get your first bet risk-free up to $1,000. $1. Remember to use my promo code subpar to get this special offer today.
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