Subpar - Brandon Stokley Interview: What makes playing Augusta so special, his relationship with Peyton Manning

Episode Date: December 14, 2021

On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar, 2-time Super Bowl Champion Brandon Stokley joins former PGA Tour pro Colt Knost and jicky jack legend Drew Stoltz for an exclusive, in-studio, interview. The owner of a 15 year NFL career talks his two Super Bowl wins, why playing Augusta National tops any other golf experience, and his relationship with Peyton Manning.

Hello world. Welcome back to golf subpar, Colt Nost, and Drew Stoltz and Sleaze. Another week, another W for us. Back to back to back? Is that three? Three out of four. I thought it was three in a row. Yeah, we skipped the island. It's a Sleese Pete. We'll call the Sleaves Pete when you don't go out of three in a row. But we've been feeding y'all our fan dual picks. And once again, the QBE shootout. We pick another one with Jason Kokrack and Kevin Knaw.

Yeah, what a call on that. I mean, Kokrack's been as hot as anybody. Kevin Knaw was kind of the question mark hadn't played in a lot of weeks, nursing a bit of an injury. It didn't seem to be a problem. It comes out yesterday. They close it out with just 12 out of 13 birdies coming home, and seven of those first nine were Kevin Knaw. So clearly the layoff, not much of an issue. If you wanted to make some nice Christmas money, some nice holiday bonus money, should have just been following our fandle picks.

That's what Kevin Kna needs. We talked about it earlier on radio, how much he's made in his career. I mean, good God. And this is unofficial. This doesn't even count. But, man, that's a fun tournament. The guys are so laid back. They're so relaxed. They're out there joking around, having fun.

I saw where Max Homer said, man, somebody said, I wish Max Homer and Kevin Kisner would have been miced up. He goes, I don't because it wouldn't have been well. Yeah. But it's a cool way to end the year, man. And now we're not going to have another real PGA tour event until January. I know it. We got a little bit of a break, but there will be some golf being played. We didn't know it for a while, but since we had our last show, Tiger, back in action at the PNC with Charlie. I feel like it was just a couple weeks ago. We saw him flicking the little short iron on the range. And I thought at the time, I was like, yo, this is day one. This is him. his road to recovery, this is the first thing he's done.

And then fast forward a week later, he's in Fairway Woods and drivers down at the hero. I was like, damn, he's way ahead of where I thought he was when I saw that first video. No doubt. I'll go out on him and say those would be the highest TV ratings ever for the PNC Championship. Would have to agree. Got to think they pair them with JT and Mike. Hope so.

I mean, that's... I want to see Charlie chirping justice. Yeah, dude, you're going to, like every shot Tiger hits is going to be on there. He might as well put them with the people that they're most comfortable with. So that's got to happen. Man, it's going to be a lot of fun between that and NFL football. I mean, we got a nice little... The whole season coming quick.

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We weren't cold. I'll say that. But this guy, I mean, he's a radio guy, so he gets it. He's got a big personality. He loves to talk and has incredible stories. We came in. We've been talking about doing this for a long time. We're going to do it on Zoom, but he's like, hold up.

I'm coming down in a few weeks. Let's do a dance. We held on telling him, he's one of those guys that's going to be way better in person. We go back probably 10, 12, 13 years, something like that. I've gotten to know. There's not, we've had him on our radio show a lot of time. There's just not a better dude, man. Like, just going out, having fun.

Not the world's greatest golfer, but you get down with 18 with him and you had a time. And he will lead straight into the gin table, by the way. And he'll sit with you till the sun, comes up. That's some of the bad. He's a cage. He just gets it, dude. He knows the locker room. He knows his way around. He gets it. I love that so much, man. And I will have to say, just, listen, I don't want anybody to think we're being insensitive or anything. We filmed this episode before the tragic passing of Demarius Thomas. And he was brought up in the episode towards the end. And obviously, we didn't know that was going to happen before. Rest in peace

to that guy. I mean, I was around him one night. Obviously, Stokes were very, very close with him. I know that was a tough one, but just didn't want anybody to think we were being insensitive about to Marius Thomas. Yeah, this was recorded prior to that and nothing, you know, bad was said about DT clearly because it's not a lot bad. You can say about the guy. Stoke was really close to them. I talked to Brandon, you know, after the deal happened and he was as shocked as everybody.

But one of those rare guys that, you know, when his career ends or he passes away, the first things people talk about wasn't his career, as good as he was. He was a hell of a wide receiver, but it's all just like the way he made you feel, the way he interacted with people. That's a different dude. So, yeah, I know this hit Stoke hard. I know this hit a lot of people hard, but, yeah. He was the one Jason Duffner and myself went out with the night I thought I missed the cut in Vegas.

Right. He was a part of the legendary story. He was a good dude to go out with. You guys were safe. Man, a good one gone way too soon, but just wanted to get that out there. All right, let's get to it. Here's Brandon Stokely on Golf Subpar. Okay, we got good news for any of you out there who are bad on the little back injury.

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Don't ever go home again knowing you could have played better if your back were better. Get the True Turn Pro and start playing your best golf ever. Here's Brandon Stokely on Golf Subpar. Been waiting on this one for a while. We got the ragingest Cajun to ever do it with us here today. Two-time Super Bowl champ, current Bronco radio host, Incredible golfer. Guy basically put Peyton Manning on the map. Brandon Stokely. Hey, I appreciate it, man.

Thanks for finally having me. I mean, look, I've been waiting for this opportunity now. I don't know for how long. Been like calling you. You ghost me on the phone calls. Like, who's this? I'm like, Drew, it's your buddy Stokely. Can I get on the podcast?

So I appreciate it. Sleeves is a busy man. I know. First off, he just said incredible golfer when I was doing all my homework. He said, you're fucking terrible. What are you talking about? I told you. I got to rewrite it right now.

I got to rewrite everything. I lie in all the intro. I got to fluff him before I bring him back down. I'm an awful golfer, unfortunately. I'm not a good golfer, but I love to play. Well, I'll be honest. Raging Cages, Lafayette, one of my favorite places have ever been. It's a great spot.

Great food. Great people. I like cool. Yeah, it's a really good spot. Really good people. and, you know, I grew up there. Fifth grade, all my family's there from fifth grade on and went to college there. So love Lafayette, Louisiana.

Good spot. Wait until he gets a little more of that drink down right down. And that Cajun, clicking out. The accent starts coming out a little bit more. We're going to need subtitles for this by the end of it. But since we're on the raging Cajun thing, I want to know a little bit. Say Brandon Stokely one day we got good enough at golf and was as good as he said. You won the Masters.

Give me a Cajun dish you would have at the Champions dinner. Oh, that's good. I would have crawfish. Okay. Got to do a crawfish ball? I think it does so they might peel them for you. You wouldn't even have to go. Right.

That would be good. A little crawfish boil. Give me a little fried catfish. A little chicken sausage gumbo to start. A little appetizer. I'm okay with all this. Yeah. And fried catfish with some crawfish.

All right. That's it. Are you going to get a lot of complaints? Crawfish. You want it real spicy? No. I'm not a spicy person. Are you the sauce?

Like what they do, ketchup and mayonnaise? They mix it together. I got my own. sauce. My grandfather made up a sauce, so I got my own sauce that he does. I don't do that one. That's kind of mainstream now, but my grandfather was a little horseradish and whiskersher and, you know, harsh raddice. Yeah, yeah, get that clear those nostrils out a little bit. So that's kind of, you know, that's the specialty. A little bit different than that one. I would like to come to your Champions dinner. Yeah. Dude, you don't need that many practice rounds because you've been playing down there.

You've been to Augusta. Been there. Yeah, been there a few times. What kind of numbers did you put? He just back too. I just got back. What did you shoot down there? Let's figure out how many of we got a well well my best round was low 80s made three birdies on three of the four par fives um so overpowering it. Yeah just you know I mean that's what I do I can't play from the tips you know I can't go all the way back so we got to go to the the members teas um but low 80s I mean the place is unbelievable I mean it's the best you can't beat it you know you see it every year on TV and you know all the shots you know all the history there. So it's,

it's the best. Isn't it crazy, though? Like, you obviously watch that place. Like Pebble Beach is iconic as well. But when you're going around Pebble Beach, you don't think about all those crazy shots you've seen on TV, all those incredible shots. When I played it,

I'm like, oh, this has happened here, this happened here. It's unbelievable. Well, because it's year in. Every year, every year, every year, and the Masters is must see TV. And you know all the great shots. There's so much history there. And I think that's why when you go play it,

you just, you know every shot, you know every great moment, Chips in fill out of the pine straw you know all those things because it's there every year they don't have something that pebble every single year they should just the pro am just the pro am You're a pebble vet too you actually shot maybe the highest round of history of pebble beat That is not possible dude he birdie number one what did you think you shot that day listen We were partners we were partners and you I need you on a few holes I need you on a few It was really windy it was it was really windy I didn't have my best day

It was a little bit windy, and the fade that I usually have wasn't working that well for me. It was a tough round for me. That place can eat you up, you know, if it starts blowing a little bit and it was cold and windy, and it certainly didn't help. But I needed a little help from you. You had it all day. I need you one or two times. You get two shots here.

I need a six for four. That might have been our... Sorry, partner. I'm out. I think that might have been our first or second round playing together, telling me about this Drew Stoltz played golf at TCU, this great golf. I'm like, okay, great. Let's see what it's all about.

We were partners like perfect and like, you know, bogeys aren't going to cut it, right? I mean like bogey golf, I just expected more. I expected more. I was super tight. Brandon, you'll see you has a tendency to exaggerate things. But that definitely wasn't the first round. This might be my favorite guess. Because we're going to get into the first round a little bit later.

Oh, I remember the first round. Don't bring it up. Yeah, I remember the first round. That was a tough bad shot by me. We're going to get all to that. But let's go, we're talking about Lafayette. You got a cool story how you got to the league. I mean, you were in high school.

You didn't even play football for a couple years. Then you go to Louisiana Lafayette, break out and end up going to the league out of nowhere. Like talk about coming up and when the NFL become realistic. Yeah, you know, I played my freshman year. I played quarterback growing up. My dad was a quarterback at LSU. And so I was like, okay, I'm going to play quarterback. Play quarterback.

And we ran the option a lot. I was small. Couldn't throw the ball 20 yards. And my freshman year, high school, we weren't a very good high school program. and I was just like, man, this is not for me. You know, football is not for me. And I decided not to play. I'm done playing football.

I'm just going to play basketball and baseball. Back then, you know, you play three sports and went to a 5A school. Como High School. Shout out. Shout out to Como. A lot of schools down there from Como. That's right. We got real big in Como, dude.

Exactly. And so stop playing, and we ended up getting a new coach in that brought a passing offense in, and nobody threw the ball back then. And he asked me to come out. They kept on asking me to come out. play. I'm like, I don't want to. I don't want to. And finally, before my senior year, I said, you know what, I'll go out and try it. I'll try it, try receiver and see how it goes and really fell in love with it. And playing receiver for me became natural. My dad was a coach. And so that's

all I did in the summertime, just play cats, play football. And so playing receiver just was natural. I led the state in receptions that year and had a chance to go play football for my dad at college right there in the same hometown and said, you know what, I'll go for it and try it out and see how it goes. And it just started going really well. I registered my freshman year and then, you know, played four years. And I started thinking about the NFL before my junior year, started thinking that I might have a chance to play. But we were a small school and still didn't, that's NFL, you know, didn't, didn't, thought that was a whole other level. A lot of things would have to go my way. And I ended up tearing my ACL fourth game of the year at playing at Texas A&M. And so that was a big

low and came back my senior year and played pretty well and ended up getting drafted in the fourth round by the Ravens. Yeah, I'm always interested about draft night because I think it's just so cool. I mean, obviously with the PJ tour, there's no draft. You have to have to go out there and try to earn your way out there. But with the draft, what was that like for you and your family? Like, was fourth round where you're like, hell yeah, that's incredible. Or did you slip further than you thought? Well, yeah, that's a good story. Back then, you know, it was one through three, the first day, and then the next day was four through seven. And so it was just a two. day draft and went to the combine and the whole thing was how fast was I going to run.

You know, what was going to be my numbers and they were projecting me to go to the fourth round, but if I did well at the combine, maybe I could sneak up in the third round. And this was 1999. There wasn't a whole lot involved into it like it is now where you have all these people and all of that. And I went out to the combine and ran well. All my shuttle drills, quickness stuff was really well. I did really good in that stuff.

So I was hoping that I was sneaking that third round. And so the first round was going on, and the third round comes and goes. And there was a couple receivers that got drafted that I felt I was better than. And I was just, I was depressed. Went to bed that night, just depressed. And then I was like, okay, am I going to get drafted at all? What's going to go on? What's going to happen here?

And early fourth round, I ended up getting drafted by the Ravens. And a lot of people tell you that it doesn't really matter what round you get drafted. It's a situation that you go to. And I ended up going to a great situation. And, you know, second year in the league, we ended up winning the Super Bowl. But it was a great situation for me there in Baltimore. It ended up working out really well. But at the time, you know, I was hoping to sneak in that third round.

You make a little bit more money with that signing bonus in the third round. And that's what I was looking at. A little more gumbo. That's right. A little more crawfish. And I slipped to the fourth round. But I ended up going to a great spot with the Ravens. And one of the coolest owners in the NFL.

Oh, yeah. Steve Bishotti's the best. Man. But back then. it was Art Modell. Oh, it was Art Modell and Steve Bichadhi bought in for half of it right before the Super Bowl that year, going into my second year in 2000,

and then he bought the rest of it a little bit later, but Steve Bichotti is the best. I've golfed with him, and he's a blast to hang out with. He's a great owner. It's a great organization. So I played four years there, my first four years,

and then my last year in the NFL, I got a chance to go back there in 2013. I didn't do anything. Just kind of hung out. A ate the food, ate the food, took a victory lap. I got a ring here. Right. And so that was a wrap.

But it was, for me, being able to kind of finish in Baltimore was special, and it's a great organization. So you get drafted, you go to Baltimore. You walk in here, this young kid. You ain't the biggest dude in the world. You walk into the locker room, Raven's locker room, first day. Bam, there's Ray Lewis. Give me the first thing. Yeah, I was scared.

Yeah. That's right. You know who I was most scared of? Tony Saragusa. Yeah, the goose. He seems awesome. The goose. Well, let me tell you about the goose.

He has my eyes, but probably. You know, you weren't in a locker room with the goose, right? True. I was so scared of this guy. And he's old school, right? Back to, you know, this is 1999. And he was, I don't know what year he was in 1999. You know, he might have been his 10th year in the league.

So when he grew up and he was groomed, you had to earn your stripes, right? You had to work your way to get in. that respect from the guys. And going through the off season and everything in training camp, I hurt my shoulder the first day of training camp, dislocated it. And so I wasn't practicing. And I would walk out to practice. I was in a sling.

And he would just be chirping. He would sit on the steps. You know, the big Saragosos is like, sit on the steps. I was like, oh, my gosh, I got to walk by this guy. I got to actually walk by this guy. And he would just start chirping me. Like, you're not going to make the team. You're already hurt?

You're already hurt. Are you serious? You're already hurt? And I'm like, this guy, like, what can I say? I can't say anything, right? So I'd walk down to my coach, and I'd be standing there, and he would start going over there, chirping my coach. Like, this guy got no chance to make the team.

And I'm just like some little kid from southwestern Louisiana, and I'm like, oh, my gosh, what is going on? I just want to go back home. The NFL's not for me. But I was so scared of this guy. I'm giving the money, but I'm going back. Right, right. I was so scared of this guy.

They would sit outside of our facility there in training camp, and him and a couple of other guys, they had paintball guns. They had paintball guns. And so you had to walk from the main building to the cafeteria. You had to walk outside. They start shooting you. Pup, pup, pup, but shooting you. And it was the scariest thing ever. I was so scared of this guy. But let me tell you, I'll tell you this. Once you made the team, I mean, he was the best guy ever. I love the guy now. I hated him then. But once you make the team, you're like, okay, now you're part of the crew. You've made it. Good job. You went through the initiation. But it was so hard. I mean, I had moments there where I was just like, man, this is not for me.

I want to go back home. Imagine that's like the golden days, you know, when you could actually do shit like that and you can't get a lawsuit. Imagine that coming out right now, like, oh, veterans shooting the rookies with paintball guns. It would be all over social media. It would be like that's criminal. Yeah. And Brian Billick, he stood up in one of our team meetings.

He's like, no more paintball. Y'all can't do it. And Saragusa was so loud at practice. It didn't matter if it was the head coach or whoever it was. He had no filter. He was always. yelling he was a loudest guy but he ended up being the greatest guy yeah i love the guy now but you know billick had to get up there and stand up there and say hey no more paintball guns you're gonna

shoot someone's eye out you know that you just can't do it anymore but back then that's just the way they rolled you know you can't do that anymore obviously with social media and all the stuff that's going on but it was it was a different world and uh but i you know now looking back i was glad that i went through it it made me a little bit you know thicker skin and and and it's just that's just the way it was That's where you learn to talk all your shit. That's right. On the golf course. I use that on the golf course now.

I see some booze in you now. You mentioned, I mean, you didn't think, start thinking about the NFL until your junior year. So, you know, you get started a little late. But who was the first guy you came across in the NFL? You're like, holy shit, I'm on the same field with this guy. Well, when I was practicing with Ray Lewis, him, and then, you know, you're playing against Troy. Aikman, Emmett Smith. I mean, just those guys.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. There you go. Don't bring up the Cowboys, bro. I get excited. We're doing another hour on Dallas. For me, it was, you know, because I grew up a huge football fan, and now here I am, I'm playing on the same football field as these guys, and it's like, wow, I want to go ask them for an autograph, you know?

It's like, these guys, I mean, I watched them on TV for years, and they've won Super Bowls, and I had Rod Woodson as my teammate, you know, the great Rod Woodson. I mean, it was just unbelievable to be on the same field with these guys because I was a huge football fan, and I was just kind of in awe. It took me a while to say, okay, I belong here, you know, realize that, okay, you know, you got a job to do. But it was for me, being a football fan, so cool to just be out there and feel like, you know,

shoot, I'm in the NFL. Yeah. But now I got to go to work. Right. I got to actually do it. I want to stay in the NFL. How long until you feel comfortable, like, you can walk in line and you can actually talk to some dudes and feel like I'm not the, you know, I'm done paying my dues.

It took me a while. You know, my whole first year, I was, you know, kind of just trying to find my way. Second year, you know, my second year started off bad. I mean, I had an awful training camp. I got lucky to make the football team. My man, Trent Dilfer went to bat for me because I think they were going to cut me. I think they were going to cut me. And he went to Brian Billick and told Brian Billick, you know, that he wanted me on the team.

So shout out to my guy, Trent Dilfer. And that's the year I won the Super Bowl, right? Yeah, that was the only one the Super Bowl. And Brian Billick, he called me. I do. I do. That's my guy. Yeah.

I owe him a lot. You sent some players down there in Nashville. I owe Peyton a little bit more than him, but I owe both those guys a lot. I'm not care of, yeah. But so Brian Billet called me in his office before the last preseason game going into my second year. I was having a bad training camp and I was in a battle. I knew it. Like you're in the room and you know, like you count numbers.

Like, okay, that guy's making the team. That guy's, that guy, okay, now you start looking. They're going to keep five or six receivers usually. And it's like, okay, it's probably me or that guy, you know, who's going to make the team and who's going to get cut. And I knew I was right on the bubble of making a football team or packing my bags and going back to Southwest Louis. Louisiana eating crawfish and or probably fishing for crawfish with my grandfather. And so Brian Billet called me in his office before the last preseason game. We were playing the Giants and he's like, hey, listen, you're going to make this football team.

I was so nervous going up there to him. I'm like, oh my gosh, what is he going to tell me? He's like, you're going to make this football team. I want you to go out there in this last preseason game. Just go out and have fun. Relax, have fun. Don't worry about it. You're making this football team.

So I went out there, man. And it was the first or second drive. in the game and boom i was running like a 10 yard in route i'm like boom perfect dropped it dropped it first i'm like what is now i'm good now i might get cut you don't drop much either i might get cut and i might get cut and uh but i ended up making the team and i was inactive you know you got 53 guys on the roster they only dress 47 for a game which is the dumbest rule ever like why why do you have to make guys inactive it's it's just dumb yeah you're on the team you're not right just just dress out you can play or you can just not play you should be able to dress out it's the dumbest rule ever

so outdated. Hopefully they get that fixed at sometime. So I was inactive for the first nine, 10 games of the season, just in street clothes, watching the game on the sideline. And then one of our receivers, first round pick out of Florida, Travis Taylor broke his collarbone. So then I got an opportunity. I started dressing out. I was the fourth wide. And I went from the fourth wide to the third wide. And then next thing you know, a Super Bowl was there. Next thing you know, you're hauling in 38-yard tubbies. That's right. And the Super Bowl. I mean, whatever, just the first score of the game. Delver drop it in. All you have to do is put your hand.

He basically handed it to your house. I know. My job was easy. That was the one on Seahorn, too. You ever feel a little guilty, getting rid of the unicorn? You basically ended the unit. It was the last of a dying greed, bro. It was a little bit of white on white crime there. Yeah, that was violent.

You know, we haven't seen a white cornerback since. I'm saying you, that was an endangered species. Right. I know. It was, you know, hey, you got to do what you got to do. Whoever lined up on me was going to get burnt. Someone was going to get burnt. was just unfortunate for him. It was him.

One of us ain't making it. Right. Right. If you or me, it's a, it's going to be you. Sorry, you got to go, right? It's not going to be me. It's just business. That's right. No, it's just business. Was there a guy? Because, I mean, like, pitchers talk about it all the time or batters talk about how they had a pitcher's number, a pitcher at a batter's number. Was there a cornerback that you just owned throughout your career? Just throw out there right now. Well, there wasn't really one because I moved teams so much. You know, I spent four years with one team, and I kind of, I guess I wore out my welcome, and they're like, you got to go. Yeah, you got to go.

So then, you know, so I was four years in Baltimore, and then I was four years in Indy, and then I was three years in Denver, and then I was, you know, then I started hopping around late in my career, one year, one year, one year, different spots. So I didn't play like one cornerback over and over again. You know, I started off. I was an outside receiver in Baltimore and played a little bit inside. It was a different game there. And until I got to the Colts.

in 03 and then we kind of started doing the three wide thing and kind of made that, I guess popular like it is now. A lot of teams did it before, but it wasn't the norm. So there wasn't one cornerback that I went up against a ton because I kept bouncing around. I guess I kept wearing out my welcome and people are like, four years. That was it. That was it. That was it.

How long have we had our relationship? Too long. I'm about ready to pass you to somebody else. Is this going to be it? For cash, whatever, nothing. I take a six-round optional and take his ass. Player to be named later? Yeah, exactly.

Go back to that Super Bowl because you're a young kid, you're just coming out. You got the world's greatest defense behind you, but it's Super Bowl. What's that? Because we talked to golfers like sleeping on the lead going into a Sunday of a major and things like that. But that night before, do you do anything sleep leading up to the game? What's it like? Yeah, I felt so good that week. We were in Baltimore, obviously, and then we went down.

We were played in Tampa. We got to warm weather, and we had a week of practice. down there and it was so nice and my body felt great and we had a great week of practice. I felt so prepared. So I was really calm. I wasn't nervous. I was just calm. I felt like I knew what was going on.

And then when I lined up for that play that ended up being the first touchdown of the game, I saw the defense. We had talked about it with my coach, Milt Jackson, the late Milt Jackson. And just so I knew exactly what to do, they were supposed to double both of the inside guys. So it wasn't all on Seahorn here, right? See, Arn was supposed to have help. So it was supposed to double Shannon Sharp and double me. I don't know why they would double me.

It was just a call, right? It's just a call. That's a waste of a guy. Right. That's a waste of a guy. Well, it turns out it wasn't a waste of the guy. So it ended up, you know, because Dilfer came out. He looked left and the guy that was supposed to be helping Seahorn went over on

Shannon Sharp. And so they ended up having like three guys on Shannon Sharp. But I just felt prepared. And my receiver coach the whole time was like, hey, just beat, you know, when they do this because they've done it before where they've done. double the inside guys, beat the guy, beat the one guy, beat that guy. Don't worry about the other guy. You beat that guy and then let the quarterback, if he throws it until you, beat the other

guy. So I knew what was going on, and Seahorn had the outside leverage. So I kind of set him up and kind of came off the ball and set them up like I was going to go outside and then just ran by him. And, you know, obviously Dillfer made a great throw and the one safety did mess up. So it wasn't all on Seahorn. Okay, good. Yeah, had that a little bit.

Right. There you go. The man, you took me. That's right. end of a breed, bro. At least you can do. Don't trump it on. No, no, no.

It wasn't all on Seahorn. That's so cool, though. I mean, he mentioned how you were, you were very, very calm. But we've asked a lot of guys on here. Like, Dan Marley wears a sock inside out, which he still does to this day. It shocks me. DA, Derek Anderson did so much shit before a game. It was unreal.

What'd you do, superstition-wise? Nothing, really. You know, for me, nothing. I, you know, I always wanted to get, I have high anxiety. You know, constantly like thinking. had trouble sleeping the night before the game. But, you know, normally I just like to get to the stadium earlier, get all my stuff situated. I don't like to be rushed.

Just get my stuff situated, get on, get out to the field, catch some balls, you know, start thinking about the game. But there was nothing, you know, no pants had to do this or jersey this or wear this. There was really nothing for me. It was, you know, to me that's a little bit overrated. I just think, you know, you just felt good getting my playbook a little bit before the game, to make sure that I know all the new plays that are going in, those types of things. But there was nothing really for me that I had to do, you know, every game to make myself feel good.

How have you not taught him any of this yet? So you're a rare dude in any sport. You show up early. They didn't have one thing like, oh, I like title of sports and not twos. I just meant he said he'd like to show up early and then feel rushed. I like to get there last minute, more pressure. And then once you get out there, it becomes calm. Well, that was wondering because I kept on call and you wanted when we're going to,

you're going to come pick me up. and, you know, nothing, nothing, nothing, yeah. You had to get all gussied up, bro. I'm talking about it. Well, for me, it is. You know, this is the big leagues for me. You know, I wanted to take it and be a professional for y'all. It's a big moment for you.

It is. And you're handling it well. It's a highlight, you know, one of the highlights. We're only about halfway through. True. I still got time to screw it up. Yeah, you could. One thing I've always thought was really cool in the NFL is like you hear about, you know,

quarterbacks and running backs buying their offensive line and gifts and everything. You're receiver. do they buy anyone gifts or do they receive no no no yeah no I'm not buying anyone a gift who'm going to buy a kid Peyton manning a gift I'm going to buy Peyton you know that's the question did you anything for catching him he did he did he um Peyton bought us a real nice gift in 2004 um you know Peyton he'll reward you if you play well you know he's not going to reward you if you go out there you're not playing well right so Peyton would take care of his linemen you know those guys always with different things.

And he bought us a great gift in 2004. We were the first receivers, me, Marvin, and Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, to catch, go over 1,000 yards and 10 touchdowns. And it still stands the day. No three receivers have ever done it. And he bought us some nice watches, really nice watches engraved on the back with the stats and stuff. So that was really nice.

And that was really the only, I guess the only gift that I've ever gotten. Probably I didn't deserve anymore. But Dilfer kept you on the team. Right, right, exactly. Exactly. You know, and I think now with the guys making so much money, you know, especially like Lyman, back in the day, that used to be the thing because the linemen didn't make a lot of money. Quarterbacks made, you know, a ton of money.

They would give the linemen gifts for Christmas. But the limine, you look at left tacklers making $17, $18 million a year, $60, 70 million guaranteed. I mean, quarterback's going to buy that guy, guess? Like, why would you need to buy that guy a gift? He's good. Patrick Mahomes could buy Amazon for the whole line. Yeah, he could take care of those guys. But those guys now are making so much money.

It's just like... All of them, coaching, everything. Everything's going up. It's, you know, and you see running backs taking care of the offensive line, but unless it's a rookie, you know, a lot of these guys are making so much money. It's kind of outdated to me. What are you going to do for them? Yeah, they can't.

I mean, it's nice. It's a nice gesture, though. It is a nice gesture. And it was, I got that watch. It's a really nice watch. Should be wearing that thing. I should have. I should have.

You and Peyton both Louisiana guys, about the same age. Did you know, before you went to Indianapolis from Baltimore, were you all buddies? Before you have, were you friends? Yeah. Because now you're like best friends. Yeah, we were. I met Peyton. Early in my college career, they have the Manning Passing Academy.

And it was, you know, New Orleans area. And they would have college counselors go. You go there and you, you know, you work with the kids that would go there. the high school, middle school kids. And so I went one year, and that's when I first met Peyton. So it was early in my college career was when I first met him. So I'd go every single year. I thought it was the coolest thing ever.

You get to meet. You know, Peyton was the best high school recruit. The guy. Right. It was so cool. And then Archie Manning was there. It's like Archie Manning, and he's the greatest guy ever. Archie's the best.

He still is the best. He's awesome. And you get to like Archie Manning and Peyton, man. It was so cool to be there. So we developed the friendship then. And then, you know, obviously he went on and got drafted by the Colts. I got drafted by the Ravens. And I don't know if he put in a good word for me when I became a free agent with the Ravens.

I tore my foot up. My last year there had Liz Frank surgery. And I was looking for, you know, I was a free agent looking for a spot. And took a visit to a few teams, went to the Colts, went to the Rams, went to the Panthers, and, you know, ended up signing with the Colts. You know, I mean, you mentioned Peyton, obviously having a great friendship. with him, but like what makes him so different than everybody else? I mean, we're golfers, but we can still see. Like, I mean, he runs the show out there when he was playing. I mean,

it seemed like he was the offensive coordinator and the quarterback. He was. But what made him so much different than all the others? How he prepared, how he worked, you know, every single day. I was around that guy, four years in Indy, one year with the Ravens. And you're talking about the off-season season. It gets to be a grind. I never saw that guy go to work one day and not have an attitude of I'm getting better today. And, you know, I think that speaks volumes and just the way that he works, the way that he prepares. And you know that you can look at him and say, that guy, you know,

he might not play the best game, but he's ready to go. He's prepared. He takes it so seriously. And it's hard not to raise your level up because sometimes you're out there, you know, you don't want to. I mean, Drew, you never practice that much in golf, right? Just talent. Right.

Right. Just lean on the talent. Right. Exactly. But, you know, you're out there practicing and grind in. You're just like, God, I don't want to go out there. You know, but you had no choice when you were playing with that guy because you looked at him, you saw how he worked and what it meant to him.

And if you didn't go out there and do it, it didn't matter if you were his best buddy or who you were. He was like, you knew that he was going to get you replaced. He got me replaced during a game one time. And he tries to deny it to this day. That's tough on a friendship. I know. I know. He's lucky.

I'm still friends with him. We were playing the Houston, Texas. It wasn't even my fault. Of course not. No. I knew it wouldn't be. Right. We were playing the Texans in Houston, and I was having a great game.

First half, I might have, I might have, right, I might have five or six catches in the first half playing well. And, you know, back then, Peyton would always do all these things and kick his foot up. And sometimes he would motion you in, all these things. So I was outside of, I think it was Marvin or Reggie, and I was supposed to motion into his hip. And then we twist release. I go down the middle of the field, and the other guy goes outside. And so he told me to motion in. And so I start motioning and then he didn't want me to.

So he starts doing all this other stuff, changing the protections and all these other things. And he hikes the ball. And I take down the middle of the field. They blew the coverage. I was wide open. And somehow he screwed up because he messed the protection. He messed the protection up. He messed the protection up.

Right? He messed the protection up. I mean, he should have known that they were blitzing off the left side. And so the guy came free. So he had to roll out of the pocket, right? And, you know, he's not very, at that time, he wasn't early as career. He could run, but he wasn't very athletic. So he just, and he had to throw it away.

So he was pissed. And so somehow I get blamed for it. I'm like, how am I blamed for? Because I motioned too early? Like, that's not my fault. That guy, you know, wasn't protected. You should have saw that guy blitz and you should have changed the protection. You always do that.

Next thing you know, they put me on the bench. I'm not playing. I'm like, so I. I was so pissed. And I still talk to it. He denies it to this day. And so I was pissed. And I said, so I'm sitting on the sideline now.

And I was playing well. And so I'm sitting on the sideline. I'm like, okay, all right, that's how it's going to be. And so my replacement, Troy Walters, great guy, great guy, NFL coach right now. He coaches for Sensei, receiver coach, great guy. And he replaced me. So he's on there. So I'm sitting on the sideline.

I'm like, you got to be kidding me right now. He just benched me for, I didn't do anything wrong. And so Peyton start doing all these audible and checking and stuff. And poor Troy is out there. And Troy starts blocking and it's a pass play. And Peyton goes to throw the football and he's like, so he has to throw it away. And now he's pissed off at Troy. So he gets Troy bench and now I'm back in the lineup.

I'm back in the lineup. So on the plane ride home, me and Peyton always sat by each other. And I'm like, bro, what happened? Like you really benched me? And he's like, what are you talking about? So he acted like he didn't know it. And he still denies it to this day. I'm like, you bench me for no reason.

That was your fault. So that's the story of Peyton binching me. Damn, Peyton. I know. He had it like that, though. He could be like, Stokely messed up. He's out. I mean, he's basically like coaching.

It's Peyton manager with him. He ran everything, you know, when you're talking about meetings. And, you know, when he said something, I mean, it was law. Like so, so like when he told you, and that's what made him so great, it was attention to detail to, too. You know, you asked attention to detail. And that's, for me, you know, I had to play 50. 15 years in the NFL.

And I didn't know what I was doing earlier in my career. Just try to grind that out and make a few plays. But when I got to Indianapolis, the attention to detail that he taught me is like, hey, when I want you at 12 yards, your ass better be at 12 yards. And you better be right there. That's what I expect from you, right? And so I was able to take what I learned from him, just the attention of detail and the discipline of route running to Denver.

And the coaches appreciated that so much. The quarterback appreciated that, that you know what? you're going to be where you're supposed to be when you're supposed to be there. Quarterbacks trusted that. The offensive coordinators trusted that. And that's why I was able to play so long. You know, I played, you know, 15 years. I was like 37 years old my last year because they appreciated that, you know,

you're going to do your job and you're going to be where you're supposed to be. But I learned that from Peyton. That's cool. That's a long time for a slot guy. You did do him one solid or he did you a solid, I should say. You caught the pass that broke the single season record. Dan Marino, touchdown passes in his season. Be honest with me on this.

handshake parking lot deal before that. Hey, when you get one away and it's the breaking one, like it's going to me. Draw it up for me. True or not? Well, I'm kind of impressed that you did some homework and that you know that. Hey, come on. First off, right, right. Right. Goodness gracious. That's impressive, man. Look at you all growing up doing some homework here. Yeah, that was, you know, back then it was like, that was a record that was never going to be broken. Damn, Marino's 48 touchdown passes in a single year. And we started rolling there in 2004. And we got to a certain point and that was all that people were talking about was y'all going to break the record and then we started you know everybody's like who's going to catch it who's going to catch this ball

and um i threw him a hundred i said hey make sure this play goes to me hundred moves i threw him a hondo yeah yeah you know don't bitch why not try right and uh it was a great play and he kind of um you know it was a kind of draw it in the dirt type of play and in the NFL like if you give a signal like this, it's a smash. It's just like universal signal. Smash, smash. So the inside guy runs a corner route, the outside guy runs a six-yard hitch. I mean, that's what it is. Everybody knows it. That's a universal signal. So he, I was, we kind of muddle, muddy huddle. You know, we didn't really huddle. Yeah, we didn't really huddle. Yeah, we didn't really huddle. I would go back and I would get to play and I would tell the outside receiver. So we didn't really huddle,

huddle. And so I went over there. He's like, hey, I'm going to give you a smash, run it, run the corner post. So I'm like, okay. So I told the outside guy, I'm like, hey, smash, smash. And so we lined up, lined up. And he, of course, he looked and he starts, and he goes, hey, smash, smash. And so I looked at the outside guy. I'm like, smash, smash. And so of course, they all see the defense and the defensive guys aren't the smartest guys, right? They're not the smartest guys. So sure enough, I got around the guy over there, They're playing quarters cover. The guy over me, I just had to get around him, and I leaned to the corner and the safety.

He was like, I'm going to pick, dude. I'm going to pick Peyton. And he went, and I just went and Peyton threw a perfect path. Right when I turned around, it was like, I couldn't even drop it. It was like right on me, perfect pass. So there it was. And then so I pretty much, I catch, I keep all my footballs, all of, all my catches, all my touchdown. All 12.

All my catches? All my, all my touchdown. You got 12 footballs at all? 39, if I think I look at, right. Hey, look at you. 30. I was hoping to get to 40, and I didn't catch one in my last year in Baltimore. I was hoping to get to 40.

We're like Peyton with our prep. That's right. I know. I know. We'll see who's better. But that one, so I caught it. And, you know, a lot of attention on that one at the time. And so I'm like, I'm not letting go of this football.

But at the time of the game, there was only a couple minutes left in the game. That touchdown, we were playing the charges, that touchdown put us down two points. So now we had to go for two to tie it. Bring in another ball. To tie it. So the two point conversion, I wasn't on the field. Like, I don't know why. I thought so too, but we ended up making the two point conversion.

And so I'm like, okay, crap, now what I do. I got the ball on my hands. Like we missed it. I think there was like 40 seconds left. If we missed the two point conversion, games over. We're going to kick an onside kick. Probably not going to get it games over. I'm going to take my ball.

I'm not even going to shower. I'm gone. Going to the house to the crib, right? Right. Hey, wife, I'll meet you at the house. I got a million dollars in my hands. I'm not going to give it to a fan like Mike Evans did. So now we made the two-point conversion. Of course, we kick it deep.

They don't go anywhere with the football. Now we're going to overtime. So I give the football to a fellow receiver, Aaron Moorhead. He wasn't dressed out. Right, so he was inactive. So I'm like, here, hold this football. You don't give it to anyone. Okay?

You don't give this football to anyone. But now we're going to overtime, right? So I got to get ready to play football. I'm back playing football. So, you know, I don't know who had the football first, but I got to go back in the game. And so Aaron Morehead keeps coming up to me. He's like, hey, the equipment managers want the football. I'm like, no, no, no, don't give that football to him.

No, absolutely not. Don't give it to him. And so he keeps coming up to me. And so finally I was like, shit, I was like, listen, okay, I got a football game to play. Just give it to them. I can't deal with this anymore. Give it to them. That's fine.

So we ended up winning the football game. He gave the football to the equipment managers. That's the end of it. Game. Game over. Could have held that thing ransom from God knows what. You could have got some Bitcoin, some season tickets. Right.

Can I get some Bitcoin? Gromcoin. Something. I wish I would have just gave it to a fan. I don't know where the football went. I think Mr. Ursay got his hands on it. And I love Mr. Ursay. Great owner again, a great organization.

I think he's got it somewhere or something. And I don't know what happened to it, but it's, I know I don't have it anymore. And the record's been broken twice. I think Brady broke it and then Peyton broke it again in 2013. So it's like third place now. But still, it's still a nice thing. At the time, it would have commanded a nice figure. Yeah, probably.

Are you trying to make me feel worse about this? All your receivers talking about it was were Marvin and Reggie Piss that you got it? No. Because the smash, like you knew it. He said, hey, I'm going to call this, but run the other. Even the outside wide out, I didn't know it. Right? No.

You were the only guy that knew it. I was the only person that knew it. Clearly he was like, this is going to work and my boy's going to catch the tub. Yeah, you know, I mean, but at the time, you're just trying to dial up a play that's going to, because we're down eight points. We're trying to tie the football game. It wasn't like it was a freebie. You know, when we played some teams, that year we played the Lions and Peyton, I think,

threw for six touchdowns and Thanksgiving Day or something like that. Like, you get to the third, fourth quarter. He can pick who he wants to throw it to. We're going to score, right? We're going to score. He can kind of, and I had a few touchdowns that game, I'm like, let's go. I want some more here, right? I want some more.

And he can kind of pick and choose because when you're running like that and you're running hot, it's really up to the quarterback to the side, especially in that type of offense. Like, all right, but Peyton was so good that he knew. He knew. He's like, okay, Reggie hasn't had a few this game. You know, especially late in the game, he's like, I'm going to start feeding Reggie.

So he knew those guys. Like me, me, I was a third wide. Like, I knew my role. Like my role, like I knew certain games. I wasn't going to have a lot of catches. I was fine with it. But, you know, like those guys, you know, those guys, you know, they were expecting a lot of balls coming their way, which, you know, they were, you know,

I mean, Marvin's in the Hall of Fame. Reggie's going to be in the Hall of Fame. I mean, for me, it was just like, okay, if I get my opportunities, that's great. Those guys, though, you know, they could be a little moody sometimes. You're all divas. All you watch, bro. You never get into it. Hold on.

Let's just get into this moody part real quick because I was looking back at some of the highlights. And you might have gave a little smash to a referee. Oh, yeah. I might be one short on E99. Shit, that's all right. It's no matter. I just want to hear it. We don't do a lot of pregame meetings.

We prep, but we're independent prep. I did. It was 2009, and it was Josh McDaniels, first year with the Broncos, and we had started off 6 and 0, and then we started sputtering,

and we started struggling. And we were going to Philly to play Philly, and we were struggling early in the football game. And I don't know how many games we had lost. At that point, we might have been like six and six after starting six and oh. We ended up, I think, finishing seven and nine that season after starting six and oh, which is hard to do. I remember. You remember?

Yeah, hard to do. So, yeah. Blame Kyle. Yeah, blame Kyle Arton. You got to blame Arton for sure. It was his fault. So, and it was his fault that I got kicked out because he threw a bad pass. So it was like we had went like three and out two or three times in a row

And so we had a third down and it was you know first quarter or second quarter First quarter first quarter So I think so I think we probably went three and out two times in a row and and and so we had a short third down and I was running a drag route from the right side to the left side and Orton threw it out there and I got beat my guy and he kind of jerked me real quick and so and I so I couldn't catch it And I'm like there's got to be a flag. where's the flag? The guy jerked me back.

I mean, where's the flag? And so I was pissed. I was pissed. I could run hot. And I didn't like the, I didn't really like referees a lot back then. I still don't. And so I'm like,

I'm looking for the first referee I could find. I'm like, where is the flag? You've got to throw a flag right here. So I'm pissed already because we're not playing well. We're going three and out now, probably three times in a row. And so I'm looking and I see a ref like down all the 40 yards.

40 yards away. now you're exaggerating it's like it was like 25 it was like 25 so I wanted to give him a piece of my mind like where's he going like right thought you were running into the tunnel bro I thought he's I wanted to give this guy a piece of my mind like dude like no how did you not throw a flag here so I ran over there and I you know I told him I'm like um I'm like I'm like hey I was like I was like I was this what you said no I so I looked at I looked at I'm like hey I'm like I'm like I'm like you know I was like, that's bullshit. And so as I said it, I was like, that's bullshit.

And I swung my hand like this because I was pissed. And he, at the same time that I did this, he put his hand out like this. And I grazed his finger. He was like pointing to the offense. Yeah, he was just, he wasn't calling the flag or anything. He wasn't throwing a flag. So he was telling you to get your ass to the end. Yeah, yeah, he was just like this.

It was kind of like, go, you know, whatever. Because I was giving them and I was like, that's, you know. And I did my. hand like this like that's bullshit and uh he put his hand out and i grazed his finger and i was like oh my gosh i just hit the rest finger i'm out hopefully i was like hopefully they let it slide like i just grazed it maybe he didn't feel it maybe his fingers are numb because it might be a little cold adrenaline right and maybe he maybe he'll let that pass right and so i was on the sideline i'm looking up there and i'm looking up at the at the scoreboard at the referee because they threw a flag on me right they

threw a flag and i'm like oh my gosh what's going to happen and the referee was like, you know, unsportsmanlike conduct, number 14, Demer Broncos, he's been ejected. And I'm like, be fair, Jim Nance was shocked. I just got ejected. Yeah, yeah, I know. It was Nancy Sims. If Jim disagrees and it's bullshit. Right.

I mean, he is the, right, he is the man. Right. So it was, and so I'm like, I'm ejected. And I was sitting next to art and I was like, I was standing next to art. And I was like, I'm going to get injected. He's like, yeah, you're gone. Yeah, you're gone. And so I start walking, you know, I'm ejected from a.

like football game i got ejected i'm like what what do i do now and so they're like you know they start walking you off and they got cops around you or whatever and you're walking through the tunnel and they got the camera on you and it's embarrassing and so i just sit in the locker room for the whole rest of the three quarters and it's just like what do you do you just watch the game we lost and it was i mean so i had to call home that was the worst part i had two young kids had to call home so i called my wife and she was pissed she was Pissed. Lana didn't like that.

Lana didn't like that. She don't fuck her out. No, no, no. She runs hot. And, you know, Lana Jimenez, right? So she runs hot, right? And so my kids were crying because they thought I was getting arrested and being brought to jail because the cops were behind me, right?

So my kids thought I was going to jail. And it was not a good night for me. I tell you that. I got it kicked out of the game. I get fined. And it was embarrassing. But, you know, now I look back and it's kind of funny. I mean, how many people can say...

It was a shit call. Right. It was Kyle's fault. You said it was Kyle. Right. He threw a bad ball. If you threw a ball, if you threw a catchable ball, I wouldn't have to reach out. It wouldn't get pulled back.

We had that first down. And so Kyle screwed me. Peyton screwed me. And my wife was pissed and my kids thought I got arrested. There you go. You can't catch a break. You can't catch a break. Is that your only objection ever?

That's it. That was it. I probably could have had a few more. You're a class individual. Right. Just one. Yeah. one one time i've done it all i've done it all i've won a couple super bowls i got ejected from a football

game that's all the gus to nashals many a that's right he's riding all the rides that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it that's it um you want to go to enine well i should well i wanted a little golf thing obviously we talked about he's just he's just starting to get the drink down the kajun's coming out i'm ready i'm ready you played a gust obviously several times i'm guessing with peyton yep where where i think every time has been with uh payton So he's kind of like Is that? Did you send you a guest fee?

Peyton usually takes care of everything. Yeah, yeah, he takes care of everything. And he takes care of everything. Uh-huh. And a watch, right. So there's no complaints for being a friend of Peyton Manning. Yeah. The house, right.

Look, I know where the bread is butter. Like I told you all, look, if it wasn't for Peyton, I probably, you know, I played 15 years. If it wasn't for Peyton, I probably would have played eight years, you know. And certainly my best year in 2004. where we had that great year. I mean, that helped me go on and do better things. So if it wasn't for me going in Indianapolis and playing with the Colts and playing with

Peyton, I mean, I don't know what my career would have been like. Smart dude, you know. Right. You know who the last one too. Hey, listen, listen. Everybody's doing it to somebody. That's right. I mean, you know where your bread's butter.

And like when Peyton told you something, you did it. And that's what I told Eric Decker and Demarius Thomas in 2012 when I came back to Denver. Payton went there, signed there. I don't know how they wanted to re-sign me there, but they did. And I told those two young guys, I'm like, listen, whatever he tells you, it's going to be the hardest year of your life as far as work.

Because they hadn't been around. They hadn't been around just different offenses and stuff. I'm like, he's going to be demanding, and it's going to be hard, but just do it. Because I'm telling you it's going to be worth it. Just do it. And those guys went on. They did it, and they were great.

But it's just playing with it. with that guy, he just makes you, you know, better than what you are. And he just, there's a, there's a, you know, he just demands excellence, demands accountability. And if you do it, you know, it's rewarding. No doubt. I had an evening with Demarius Thomas in Vegas. Yeah? Myself, Jason Duffner and Demarius Thomas went out one night. Really? DT. Had a gold. Clipping a few. Yeah. You know, you know, you know, cards with him. And they went up in the nightclub together. It was black. People didn't know who was who. He was married. I love you, dog. Dude, it was so much fun. I never met in my

Casano was like, do you know Demarius Thomas? Like, nope, I know he is. We went over, introduced, started having some cocktails. God, he's a unit, huh? Oh, yeah, he was. Physical beast. I have the picture, I'll show you. You'll die.

You won't be able to tell you. Big and fast and physical. And the way that he could run routes, he was so special. And hard worker, dedicated. And, you know, that's why him and Peyton are still really, really close and just love the guy. He's just, he was, he was great. When are you going to be on the Monday night football? Well, that's what I keep wondering, Cole.

You know, I just keep questioning, like, you know, and Peyton's asked me a few times. He's asked me, but I've just been busy. I've been a little bit busy. It's the same with this podcast. You've been asking. I was like, we got Duke. We got a pecking order. Right.

But with Peyton, you know, he has actually asked me a few times, you know, but I've been busy. So I think he's going to like Mickelson and Brady and Nan. Yeah. Kevin Moore. I mean, it's just like, you know, so I've been a little bit busy because, you know, I got kids and stuff. I get it. Home life takes over a little bit. So I'll try to find some time for it.

I don't know if it would be this year, maybe next year. But I don't know. I don't know when that time will come. I enjoy those Monday nights. They're good. They're really good. He does a good job. I like watching it because for me, even though, you know, I feel like that's the one thing

that I know is football. I can watch football. I can see it. I can be able to talk about it and see what's going on. But when you hear Peyton and Eli talk about plays and how it's supposed to look and different things, I think that's great. You know, that's what I love to see. And I'm sure the normal fan loves watching that and just seeing their breakdown of the game and what they're talking about and what they're thinking about.

But I love watching it. I don't think it can be duplicated either. I think those, like Peyton makes that thing work. Eli's great on it too. Other sports will try it. And I don't know that it'll hit like this. They see the blueprint now. And they're like, oh, let's do that.

I don't know that it'll hit like that. I thought you would be good at golf one. I think me and goal will be terrific. Yeah, I thought so. We'll get you on ours. Yeah. Really? On the subparcasts.

Yeah. You come in there and drop some knowledge. What I would do here is slice it into the ocean and pebble seven times in a row. I'm laying eight now. Okay, you drop on the key. But I got a stroke here. I might be able to make a 10 for a nine. You got to grind out the nine.

Always. Always. There's no quit. You know, you always got to grind that out. You never know. You are hard. You never know what your opponent's going to do. That's my mindset.

Where's Archmanning going to school? Oh, that's a good one. You know. That's a good one. You know, I was around him this summer a little bit. and he's a special young man. He's built. He works hard.

And you just watch him work and throw the football. I mean, he's great. And he's a, I don't, I mean, obviously, I don't know where he's going to go. Just say it. We need to break some headlines here. We try to break the news. We try to break other sports news. Right.

Yeah. Well, I wish I knew. I don't know. If it's Ole Miss, give me a blank. LSU? Where are we are? Who knows? Well, wherever he goes, he'll be great.

He's a, he's, he's just, he's, he's great. I mean, he really is. And he's got a great head on his shoulders. That's the thing is when you talk to him, you know, you would never know. And, I mean, I've known the kid since, you know, he's been probably elementary school, middle school, you know. And so, but you see where he's at now and you see him work and how he throws the football. And he's just great. He's great.

He's amazing. He kind of checks all the boxes. It's amazing. Just being humble and just with every, all the tension. And, you know, you look at it now. Of course, you're Manning and your Archie's grandson, your Peyton's, you know, nephew and Cooper's son, and just the tension that he's gotten. And how he just got a great head on his shoulders and he's so humble and how he works. That's kind of like what they do.

That's just how they all are. They just work and they're very humble. I mean, it's pretty impressive. You just, since you brought Archiep, it reminded me of this. I was with Cooper in New Orleans this year. And it's just crazy how royalty they are down there. we go from dinner to another spot with Cooper. We get out and the valet people are asking to take pictures with Cooper.

I'm like, y'all know this. It's a lot of him. Well, Cooper's the funniest of him. Oh, he is the best. He is the funniest of him. They should bring him on the cast. He's coming.

He's coming on ours. Oh, he's coming on ours. Oh, we're going to get him before his brother. Yeah. No, if you throw Cooper in the mix, yeah, Cooper's, he's, he's great. I mean, all of them are great. They're just really good people, you know. I think that's, that's, you know, first and foremost.

There's just good dudes and obviously very talented family. But they all just work hard and they got a great mindset. And to me it comes from Archie, you know, Arch, Arch, Arch. I mean, he's just, he's the man and the way that, like, he operates and the way that he's always been. And, you know, when I saw him and when I was in college, I'm like, this is Archie Manning. Yeah. And he was just so down to earth and such a good guy, you know, we would go out as counselors. Like, we would hit the town, you know,

night. I mean, it was nightlife back. There was no social media. I mean, we would hit the small town and just go after it. And he was like, hey, listen, I get it. Y'all going to go out. You're going to have a good time. But y'all got to be, the one thing I asked for y'all, you're going to be here for the 6 o'clock coaches meeting. You know, that's it. Whatever y'all do, y'all do. And, you know, we always were there. But, you know, he just, he got it. And he's just, he's just, he's the best. They're special. We're waiting to see you on that Manningcast. I'll be there. I'll be there might be 20 24 or five but eventually hopefully once they get down the list i'll find out where arch is going we'll have you back on this show okay that's a really that'll be round two before he breaks

it yeah that'll be around to be around i keep you know peyton knows you know i do radio now and i'm like give me you know you got to give me some nuggets like give me some good stuff and every now and then he'll feed me some good stuff so maybe i'll get the the arch manning the trickle down what's the point yeah yeah yeah yeah i'll let you know okay yeah i'll definitely give you that one drew All right, well, let's get to the emergency nine. We can do this for five hours, but I would love it. I think we all got some stuff to do later on this evening, including the Cowboys. By the way, what are we got?

Stokes all dressed up. He's all gussed up for the ball. Yeah, we got a big supper. We got dinner after this, right? You're buying? Yeah, I'll be right there. You're buying, right? Rulette.

Let's see hot shakes out. I mean, I got so much of Drew's money. I got so much of Drew's money in my pocket from gin. Don't say gin. In between, what's the game that we've played? What's the other game? Golf? Yeah.

No, not golf. Not golf. But the other one that we play when we go around the table, Canadian. Canadian blackjack. Yeah. Oh, I, I, I, I, I, I, uh, I was welded to the table at your right now. When was that, uh, you've never been in gin.

I took you, I busted you in Canadian. Remember that? Canadian, maybe. Yeah, there we go. You know, I got stope dollars for days. There we go. There we go. There we go.

I would get you. Jen and Canadian. Get you a little. You can get me in golf, but gin and Canadian. I got you. Canadian, whatever. You've never been in Japan. All right, Colt, start the E-9.

Let's go. All right, we ask this to everyone. Okay, I might know the answer. You can trade lives with anyone for a day. Dead or alive. Who would it be? Muhammad Ali. Interesting.

You got the gloves. Yeah, I was a big Muhammad. I got into collecting Muhammad Ali, like when I got to Denver in 2007. I was bored. I was bored. And I loved collecting. I was always a baseball. card guy and I loved autographs and collecting and I was like what I want to do I'm kind of bored and so I started

collecting Muhammad Ali stuff and his tickets and his and his cards and so I became a big collector of him and I just sold all my cards I still have my ticket collection but I love Muhammad Ali I think he's got a great story and um it's just kind of one of those guys that you look at like in his era he was just the best and he still kind of resonates um as being just the goat like That's the goat. You can say Brady, Manning or whoever, you know, Jordan. But when you say the goat, it's Muhammad Ali, really. Interesting.

I thought you said Cooper Cup. I love Cooper Cup now. You want to be good in the Star. Hey, you watch Cooper Cup, man. I love him, bro. That guy is so much fun to watch, you know, Edelman and West Walker and those guys. But Cooper Cup right now, he's taking it to a whole other level. They all might owe you a piece of those big companies.

That's what I'm saying. Where's the royalty out, fellas? Where's the royalty at, right? Right. I mean, it wouldn't be where it's at, right? I mean, that's kind of... But, you know, Wayne Krabant, you know, I'll pass on some a little bit to him. But those guys, you know... If you hadn't bodied Seahorn the way you did, maybe it'd be some corners flipping you something.

All right? Next one. You've had some quarterbacks in your days that love golf, right? You had some good golfing quarterbacks, right? You had Kyle Orton. Yep. You had Peyton. Trent Dilfer, all good golfers. Yep. Who's the most...

Who takes losing the worst of those three? Or who do you like to take money from the most? I mean, I love taking money from Peyton the most. Who takes losing the worst? I would say Kyle Ard. I would have guessed that. Yeah, I mean, he's the biggest baby. You know, he's just like the biggest baby.

He just goes like in the tank, you know. That's him. I know. Like Peyton, Peyton's the most fun to take money from because it's hard to get his money. And he's a grinder. He's going to make that. He's going to chip in for par when you think he's out of the hole. He's going to make a 40-footer for bogey when I'm thinking I'm going to just got a two-putt to beat him.

that's what he does but but like Kyle is the biggest just baby he's just the biggest baby uh Peyton but when Peyton loses like you know what would you expect it when Peyton loses like he's just like you know class class yeah he's always class and even on the golf course and I want him to be upset but he's not he's just like you know he takes it is you know he's pissed you know he's pissed he hates but he handles it the right way like Kyle ordn doesn't or don't or you know it orton spent some time in Dallas and I'm pretty sure jose just signed his check over to me. Kyle,

you don't take reason now. I love that guy. And it's always, just like you had all these quarterbacks, but it's always someone else's. Right. It wasn't fair. Right.

Someone else's bad. Caddy gave me a shit read on the last. Bad read. Bad read. I was just, I knew it was going to be Kyle. I just wanted to hear. That's right.

All right. All right. You're a great follow on Twitter. You're not scared to go at some guys every once in a while. They come at you. I want to know off the top of your head, meanest thing anyone's ever said to you on Twitter. Oh my gosh.

Wow. I mean, you can say a lot of things on the show that you most likely can. Wow. I mean, I can't remember them all. But it's a lot. Just top quick one. I got nothing. I mean, I don't know.

I don't know. I mean, what's the worst thing that you can think of? Like, you know, it's a lot. I mean, but the worst thing that you can think of, you get it all on Twitter. You know, you get it all, especially, you know, I do radio now. So I got to, I got to be a pennyate. A penny. Oh, here we go.

What I tell you, bro? Opinionated. There you got to slow it down. Got to slow it down. Got to slow it down. That's why I like radio. Like I like radio because I can do that and kind of you can talk about it. We could edit this, but we're not going.

No, we don't need to edit it. That's what I do. But so, but people take it, you know, however they want. And I've had a few that, you know, I've taken the wrong way. But it's, it's, yeah. Whatever the worst thing you can think of is what I get on Twitter. He goes on Twitter. If you're not following and follow him, at Brandon Stokely.

Be Stokely. Is that it? Be Stokely. I mean, get it right. Some poor guy in Brayden Stokely. Did you do your homework? I don't even follow. I don't need that bullshit takes in my life.

All right, I think I asked this to Adam Feelein when he came on. You have Dealing on. Love Thielin. Yeah, you're not even the best. Huh? You're not even the best guy. Best catcher the rock. And Larry, too, bro.

You're in the lead company. Larry's the best. You're similar. You and The Leland except. Well, that's why I'm lower. I'm low on the total. Look, I got no ego. So I'm good.

I made the cut. That's what, like, you know, sometimes, sometimes you don't, you know, with certain things, you don't make the cut and, like, maybe you're the last, you know, alternate or whatever, as long as you make the cut. You got a jersey. You're suited up. That's it. That's it.

You're in the top 100. You're like our 97th episode. That's perfect. You're perfect. Top 100. Perfect. That's it. That's it.

That's it. That's it. I'm going to ask you what I asked him. Which do you think describes you best on the football field? Sneaky fast. Lunch pale guy. High IQ guy. guy or plays with a lot of heart?

How about coach on the field? Coach on the field? There's also someone you'd like your daughter to date. That's a good one, but that ain't you. Those are all the adjective used to describe. Give them to me again. One more time. Sneaky fast.

Yep. Okay. Launch pale guy. Right. High IQ guy or plays with a lot of heart? All of the above. Yeah. That's what I felt like I was, all of the above. I don't know.

I mean, I try to just be a good teammate and play hard and do the little things that kind of get overlooked, right? I mean, I mean, look, I wasn't the fastest guy, but you try to do the little things and do the right things, and that's kind of how you survive and move on. So all the bugs. Those are the only the strippers that could be. Right.

That's it. That's it. There's nothing else, really. Feeling sneaky fast. He runs like a four-four and been doing it for frigging 12 years. But, you know, you look at him, you say, okay, well, he's not the fastest guy, but. It's still sneaky somehow after a decade. Exactly.

Exactly. Yeah, okay. Coach on the field. I can't believe we've almost made it through this whole pod without you asking a question about the locker room. What locker room? Just people, guys run around naked. That's kind of your thing.

I don't really talk about naked. Oh, you like to talk about naked guys. You want to? No, I don't like to. No, I don't like doing that. I really like talking about naked guys. We ain't done with the E-9 yet. All right, your life is on the line.

You have to pick a winner in the 40-yard dash, Peyton or Tom Brady. Just go back a few years for Peyton. No, I know. No, it's Peyton Manning. He's fashion than Tom? Oh, yeah, no doubt. He's like a Z or a draft. Like, if you watch Peyton early in his career, that guy can run.

Wow, that guy could move. I thought it'd be a really close. And you watch Tom early in his career. Like, I was watching Tom on his deal that he has now. And he had that first Super Bowl, he had like chubby face. Now you look at him now, like obviously his diet and stuff, he's chiseled. But you look at him early, like he had a little chubby face. And when he came out, Tom couldn't run.

It's Peyton Manning. I don't think that's debatable. He's on the Kardashian program. He gets younger every single year. Yeah, no, I mean, the way that he takes care of his body now, I mean, he's unbelievable. I mean, still be doing what he's doing right now. I mean, it's remarkable. It really is remarkable, but Peyton's faster than Brady.

He's like the J-Lo, Jennifer Anderson of athletes. Every year you look at him like, damn. Right. Better than the year before. I mean, that guy, I don't know how old he is, but he can still play two or three years because his mind, mentally and the way they gets rid of the football. It's 43 or 44, yeah. Yeah.

He wants to play until 50. He's doing it. You don't take many hits. Or they flag them if he does. I was going to ask you about the slapping, but we covered that pretty good. So I'm going to ask you, who's more likely to get him, or who are you most likely to get invited to their birthday party, Melvin, Gordon, or Von Miller. Oh, yeah, you've had some good ones with them.

I had to audible quick. I hot rod, I omahad that shit right there. I omahad. I saw that you and Melvin Gordon. one that didn't go out yeah yeah well you know I mean look I do radio okay in Denver so you got to be opinionated opinionated see I got it now it sometimes it takes me a couple times just like my golf swing but once I get it dial in you're in locked in you're in trouble um von Miller me and Vaughan were teammates in 2012 and you know I said when I started doing

radio that I thought Vaughn should be traded in 2000 and I think 2016 or 17 2017 but I said it out of respect to him because I thought he was the best asset on the team and they could get a Kalil Mack type of deal for him and get a couple first rounds I didn't see the Broncos going anywhere which turned out to be pretty prophetic yeah prophetic yeah you can use that on radio there we go yeah whatever that means yeah right there profit right right It turned out to be like spot on, right? Yeah. But it was like he was the best player.

You can get something for him. Let him go. He's still in his prime and do something. And I think he heard about it. And I don't know if he heard the reason and why, right? I was like, you're the best player here. That's why I think you probably should be traded because I don't see the Broncos going anywhere. We have since made amends.

I think he was upset about it. But we have since made amends. And we were teammates in 2012, his second year in the NFL. So look, it's never. personal, you know, but some guys hear things on Twitter or whatever. And I think Melvin Gordon heard something that I said on, on the radio. And, but I don't know Melvin Gordon. But me and Vine are good.

So I'm going to say Vaughn. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Perfect. All right. Next one. You squashed it.

Yeah. Yeah, we're good. We talked at Canton, Peyton's Hall of Fame. We talked. So we're good. Okay. It's a good guy to have on your team. Yeah.

All right. Number seven. True or false. You are a part of the most vicious. attack on a man in the history of Pine Valley Golf Club? Pine Valley. Vicious attack. I have played Pine Valley, which was really fun, by the way.

Those trees. There's a lot of trees. A lot of trees. A lot of trees, right. I didn't know going up there. You know, you always see it's like this, you know, it's always ranked on the top three, you know, that in Augusta and Cyprus and Pebble. And it's like, okay, that's really cool. It's going out to New Jersey.

like oh my gosh there's pine valleys a lot of pine trees that's why they call it right that's why they call it pine valley uh and i was in those things and you got to just you can't go you just got to punch it out you got to take your medicine punch it out um that is false well your friend what's the room where what's the room what happened stab someone with a golf tea oh oh damn stokes almost let murder well well there was a um can i you want me call the guy out yeah he wants to the guy out there's a guy out in dinner Denver, Scott Ryman, that we were there at Pine Valley. And he's a pretty good guy, pretty solid dude.

Decent. Decent guy. And so he was in our group, and he likes to do, don't do it to me. He likes to do the titty twist. See that thing right there? I just wanted to show you, right? How did that feel?

Thank you. How did that feel? I can take it because I'm a unit. But it doesn't feel good. No, it hurt me, actually, if I'm being honest. It doesn't feel good. So he likes to do that. So, you know, I'm on the T-box.

just I'm just trying to hit the dang fairway, right? I'm focused. I'm trying to hit the dang fairway. I probably had a couple doubles in a row, and I'm like, I'm just ready. And I got my ball and my tea in my hand right here, right? I'm like, this guy comes at me right now. I got him, I got him, right? So I got awareness.

That's one thing. The other thing is awareness is really high. High IQ guy. Right? So I'm like here, and he's over here. And he comes to do it, and I back away and I get him with the, with the teeth on the arm. and the next thing you know, blood starts dripping down the arm. Hey, he sent me a pitcher.

It was pretty deep. Look like a bullet. Well, hey, I mean, that was the price you pay. That's true. Right. Like, if you go for that, right, he got the teed of the arm and guess what? He's never tried it again. Exactly.

That's it. You got to smack. You got to teach him a lesson. Right, right. You can't just keep getting bullied. Yeah. That might go in that Pine Valley Book of Legend. Right.

You mess with the bull. Right. You're going to get the horns. Exactly. You finished it. You are radio. You know it. You know it.

All right. Next one. We alluded to it earlier. How many years of prison do you think he would have gotten for murdering me with this gold file iron? This is the closest attempt at murder I've ever seen. This was on whole, I'll never forget it. This was on hole at Cherry Creek.

Four. On four, right after the par three. And, you know, this was back when I wasn't playing that much golf, honestly. And my game wasn't as good as it is now. And so I think I had like a five iron in. on a par four and uh yeah i usually play a little cut just a baby one colt just a baby cut just a couple yard cut and uh i i you know i saw i aiming left and drew was over there somewhere like over

there and i kind of hazelrocketed a little bit a little low laser and uh i really thought i was going to kill drew and it was going at those calves of his ankle calves you know those that a snap like a twig right right yeah it would have shattered the tibia it would have I could have never walked. No, it would have shattered. If I didn't bleed out right there. Right, it would have. And this, was that our first round playing together?

It was literally the first day I met him. He had hit the fairway. I'd hit way further on the fairway, obviously. That was true. That was true. It was five hundred. Back then. Not anymore.

So I'm up there. I've only seen him for a couple holes. But dude, I'm in a spot where like you and me, you would never even think that like, yo, this is a problem area. Keep that head on swivel, please. Right. And I'm sitting on. And I'm sitting on, I'm talking like out of buddy in the car.

Talking all this shit. Yeah, I'm like, not paying like, just tell this freaking diva over here to hurry up and hit the ball. I turn around and this thing's airborne and it doesn't get more than knee high and it's going 150 miles an hour. And I shit you not if I made an unbelievable, dude. No, I know. That's respect. That's respect.

Yeah. Shuttle drill. I would have happened. Right. Ever since then. I ducked it. He did. And I shit you not is my closest near death on the golf course of all.

He did. 30 minutes into like meeting you. You know, I don't like to give you credit. But look, I've seen some great athletes. I have and that move that you made right there to save your leg which I need right which is is top three all time thank you yeah that means a lot that means a lot I thought your shot deserved better than where it went to it was it was scary you know because when you hit a shot like that as a as a golfer like me

you know you because I hit those shots you know occasionally occasionally you get like you just you get weak and and I just and I was like oh my gosh I'm going to kill this guy. I just met him. But your athleticism took over. And next thing you know, it was fine. He jumped over, it moved. It was, it was.

My heart was beating. The Red Bulls kick. I mean, I was about to go out of my chest. The Hazel Rocket, five iron. That's what I knew. And that's when we made, that relationship was cemented there. The foot speed. There it was.

I haven't seen that, you know, since Marvin Harrison, Marvin Harrison and Drew Stoltz right there. That's the only two. That's it. Right. Top two. Right. Bam.

Got it. I love it. All right. Last one for me. We're going to do a little math here. Oh, gosh. Luis.

No, math is my, math is actually my good subject. So let's go. All right. What's the bigger number? Sleeze and Peyton Manning's fitted hat size combined or Shaq's shoe. Oh,

uh, no, it's, it's Drew and Peyton's hat size. It's not even close. I mean, Peyton's got the biggest head. It's fucking huge.

How big is it? I don't know. I don't know. Like he can't like even when he wears hats He's got to put him up there It's like dude He took the helmet off and it looked like someone like It'd put a hole in his head

And we always made fun of him about it Yeah But not but behind his back But behind his back Of course you don't ever say it to his face But he had to know Like like when you take your helmet off like that spot Like can you not get a bigger helmet?

I don't know It seemed like it didn't fit When it was cold it like stayed permanent Hot weather it popped back out a little bit It'd be all right But it was just like red right here You need to get that hat on quick On the sideline to cover

it up but he didn't no he wouldn't do it and it kind of became his like his trademark the red spot right there the red spot on his head and uh you know just getting getting hats and getting his helmet like i don't i don't know i've never asked him why didn't they just make a bigger helmet that actually fit that might be it that might be as big as it gets that just can't do it yeah like a rhinoceros right that's it right that's it right but it's Peyton manning yeah true you got to do a special special helmet right i mean ride l or whoever that's it's right i mean rightel or whoever I mean, do a special helmet for him. And they just never did it.

And it just became his kind of thing is the red mark right there. Right there. Dude, how do you think it's an accident? He's calling, he's reading all these defenses before it happens. He's got a big computer up there. Oh, I mean, it's a biggest ever. It's always working too. It's never stops.

It's always, it doesn't matter if you're on the golf course or if you're in practice or if you're at dinner. It's always like always computing things. The guy never forgets anything either. Yeah. Never forgets anything except when he got me bitched. Right. He forgot about that all of a sudden.

He forgot. Yeah, he knows it too. Deep down in his heart, he knows he screwed me. Yeah, he probably can't sleep at night. No, no, he knows he screwed me. Life hadn't. I think I would have had like 24 catches that game. He screwed me.

I would have broke the record. I would have broke the record. I would have broke that record. Right. I would actually kept that one. Shit, bad break, kid. I know. We appreciate you.

You're the best in the world. You're the best in the world. You're not awesome. Trending. Thank you for joining us. I appreciate y'all, man. Finally, I made it. I made it.

Well, that was a fun one with the Raging Cajun, Brandon Stokely. You two are brothers, I'm pretty sure. There were, there's a lot of similarities there. A lot of great athletes. He turned out to be in the league. I didn't quite get my shot the same way he did. He won't a Super Bowl? You know what I mean? Yeah, Super Bowl. I didn't get to link up with Peyton Manning and just spoon-fed me touchdowns over and over throughout my career. But it was cool getting some Peyton stories in there. This is the first time I'd ask them this. I'd alluded to it in the fact, or in the past. But the past when Peyton Manning broke Dan Marino's, you know,

single-season touchdown record, I knew because Stokely caught it. And he had a good wide-receiving core up there in Indy and I was like I knew because how close they were that it was Peyton was that good that he could like who do I want to catch this basically and then we actually got the story about it there with the smash smash and then Stokes the only one that knows about it how about it how close they are and he hasn't been on the Manning cast yet shocking because he's out of the league you don't have to worry about the Manning curse they are legitimately best friends we didn't get into this part too on the show but like when Peyton left indie and there was a bunch of teams going after him obviously stoke was a enormous part

of why he ended up landing in Denver Coming out, staying with him, the family, how great of a town it is, golf, all that stuff. Like, Stoke was the Broncos best recruiter. We probably owe a Super Bowl. Stokes should be up in that ring of honor just for bringing him to Denver. And I don't think he ever gave us quite a definitive answer, but I asked, you know, you and Peyton's fitted hat size added together or Shaq's shoe. Shaq wears like a 24. Yeah.

He said, he said, I think he said the over. He said he all said. I mean, Peyton's looks like you got a pretty impressive dome on him. I got to think I haven't wanted to fit it in forever, like a new era. You're at least an eight. I'm close to an eight. There's a lot of shit going on up here, dude. But Peyton's is more, I feel like this way, like rectangular.

Mine's just massive circumference. My favorite part of the Manning cast that I've watched so far is when Eli asked Ray Lewis. He goes, would you rather have one of, Peyton's helmets full of quarters or 10,000 cash? I thought that was a genius. That's a good E-9 question. There's only one way to settle this, dude. We've got to get him sitting right here. Don't worry.

I'm talking to Brandon about that. We may have to fly up to Denver to the 303 to make that happen. But we will work on it. And, dude, we got into there. the E9. The first round of golf I played with Brandon, so I swear to God, my closest near-death experience. I don't think that story did justice to it. This was a rifled five-iron going 140 miles an hour that would have ended. The safest thing for you that could have gotten hit was your head. It would have just, it wouldn't have been a problem, but it wasn't that high.

He didn't get it in the air or nothing. And then that would have just derailed an enormous jickeyjack career, which would change the landscape of golf. But that was a fun one. That one's going to be a tough one to follow. He's a beast. I'll tell you what, Sleas. It's, you know, kind of like Taylor Gooch, kind of like Jason Cochrak. We're kind of kind of of sad the falls over because that means no more golf because we have been hot with fandul just starting to do good but the good news is we got the nfl which we don't know shit about does do you think that's going to stop me at all from relentless firing this entire holiday season nope not at all and the nfl playoffs are almost here and help you stay on top of the action fandul sportsbook

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just laughed your ass off there with brandon stokely get ready because next week we got a true comedian in the house. Bill Ingval, blue collar comedy. And you can understand. I mean, it doesn't have a Cajun accent. It makes it a lot easier. But Bill Ingbaal and the house, we get into the blue collar comedy tour, one of the biggest, highest grossing comedy tours, I believe, of all time, how he got started. And a huge golfer with your former partner down at Disney back in the day when they used to have

the pro am, y'all, y'all figured it out down there. I think first round leaders, whatever, no big deal. So a lot of golf, a lot of funny, you know, behind the scenes of the comedy, which I could, I mean, it was a pleasure having him on. All right. Well, that's going to do it for us. Everyone, have a great week. We'll talk to you on next week's Golf Subpar.