Subpar - Brian Baumgartner talks how The Office changed his life, favorite moments at the American Century Championship

Episode Date: October 24, 2023

On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar, actor Brian Baumgartner joins former PGA Tour pro Colt Knost and jicky jack legend Drew Stoltz for an exclusive interview. Best known as Kevin from The Office, he talks why the show remains so relevant, his favorite memories from the American Century Championship and which course offers the best golf experience in the world.  ----- Subscribe to our new YouTube Now: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt5ESUx6omMUsMoEKvMTzlA Shop The Birdie Juice Collection: https://fairwayjockey.com/collections/birdie-juice Follow Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/golf_subpar/?hl=en Follow Twitter: https://twitter.com/golf_subpar?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor ----- We are excited to announce our newest sponsor Tito's Handmade Vodka and their Tito’s Golf Club "Sub-Par Sponsorship" Now Tito's Golf Club members can nominate the Sub-Par Golfer in their lives to be sponsored by Tito’s to get cool gear and fresh fits. Yes, even if that golfer is you. Will it make your friend good at golfing? No! Will they look like they’re good at golfing? And maybe by sheer osmosis start to be kind of okay at it? Sure! At the very least you know they have good taste in vodka. Make bad golfing look good while bad golfers get better. Join and nominate at titosgolfclub.com ----- Thanks to Ralph Lauren, the Official Outfitter of the United States Ryder Cup team and of GOLF's Subpar.  The RLX Golf collection is available in select Ralph Lauren stores, exclusive private clubs, and resorts, and online at RalphLauren.com. https://www.ralphlauren.com/brands-golf?&utm_source=OtherPartners&utm_medium=GolfSubparPodcastRLSponsorship_GolfSubpar_PodcastPlacement_2023_GolfSubparPodcastRLSponsorship

Hello world, welcome back to golf subpar with Colt Nosed and Drew Stultz. And if you're watching, you can tell I'm not in the studio with the sleeves man. I've made it all the way across the world to Australia sleeves feeling fresh as can be. How was it, bud? That's a big boy journey right there. What did we do on the flight? Well, I got a few things for you. So I flew from Vegas Sunday night at 7 p.m.

Got delayed on the runway for a while, of course. I mean, when you have a ridiculously long trip, why would things not slow down even more? but ended up getting to San Fran on time, 14-hour flight plus a few. Buddy, after five days, four nights in Vegas, it was no problem. I slept 12 of the 14 hours. I asked everybody on Twitter for some recommendations about what I should watch. I watched one episode of the morning show, the current season, because I'm up to date on that. And I watched one episode of Season 2 winning time.

Other than that, I was asleep the entire time. 12-hour sesh. I'm proud of you, man. How does that feel? It's nice, isn't it? A little 12 piece? A little 12 piece don't hurt nothing. I fell asleep before we took off. I woke up and it said we had like four and a half hours left. I'm like, oh my God, this is beautiful. Woke up, watched an episode, fell right back to sleep, woke up, had some breakfast, we're on the ground. See, dude, big compliment to you. That's brilliant planning ahead. You go to Vegas, kill yourself for a handful of days before you ever have to take one of these crazy international flights. Boom, the thing goes by like that.

That's smart. That's smart thinking, bud. Props. Tip of the cat. Have you questioned? Have you flushed a toilet yet? I have and I just start laughing because I'm like, I think he thinks they go the wrong direction, but I don't know which way they go at home. So I'm just going to say you're right. I actually don't even know which way they flush here.

I've just heard people talk about, dude, the toilet's flushed shops away. I was like, no shit. That's incredible. So, all right. I love that that's what you're fascinated about. Yeah, I love it. I think I belong in Australia. How is it? How is it?

You picked up any new slang for me down there? I love the Australian people a lot. Well, I got off the airplane immediately thought there was a million of you running around because your accent is so on point. Thank you. And I think we all would have lost this bet. I've been here for about two hours now, and not one person has thought I was Adam Scott. Can't believe it hadn't happened yet.

That is strange. Give it time. Wait so you get to the golf course. It'll be falling all over themselves. I had a hoodie on and my hat was pulled down, so they were probably still confused. Low profile. Yeah, you just try. trim the beard just a slight bit.

If you swing a golf club, I mean, fuck, it's over, dude. They'll know at that point. Speaking of Australia, oh, go ahead. Real quick, though, before we, the trip was made much easier because, you know, we always look great on the course with our polo, Ralph Lauren gear. But even on the plane, I wore one of the workout shirts so comfy. I think that's what made me sleep so well. Yeah, dude, workout slash plane slash lounge slash anything.

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He's my new white whale for subpar. We got to have him on soon. All right. He'll be over in America a lot more and more chances for you to find him, hump his leg, that. I'll do it. Congratulations to Men with Lee. Colin Morcala put on a clinic. What a final round that was. Pick up his first win since he won the Open Championship. I'll be honest, I was in Vegas. Didn't get to see a whole lot. I was focused on my own golf game with my man Ben Lamb, but I'm very happy for Colin, a well-deserved win. How did we do in Vegas? Quick summary. Not as good as Colin. Okay. Not as good as Colin. Not win by six. Got it. We had so much fun, man. It was just playing with Lamb is great.

we went out there the first day. We were won back after the first. They did a weird format this year. It wasn't matches. It was just you added your score up for the, for, you played two 18 whole rounds and one nine whole round and used to add it up the score and whoever went went. And it was handicapped. It was best ball the first day, a shamble the second day where, you know, you both hit

your T shot, you picked the best one and then it's the best ball from there. And then you play your own ball from there, obviously, and best score goes. And then nine holes of just best ball. Dude, some of these scores, we talk about it all the time, how beautiful the handicapped system is and all this. It's just, it's the second day in a shamble, okay? We both tee off. And Southern Highlands is not the hardest golf course in the world. Go out there, and it's Vegas.

You're playing a little banged up. We shoot 11 under par, I believe, in a shamble. I mean, I made seven birdies, played, played dice. We were, I don't know if we beat anybody that day. I thought we played pretty good. These teams are coming in 16 under, 15 under, 15 under, 50s. Steve under, but who are you people? How are, I thought y'all worked for a living.

It was just, you can basically predict who was going to win every flight from the start. Yeah, that's important stuff at the handicap management. I got a text from a buddy on the East Coast who just had their end of the year, like member, member or whatever the hell it was. He's like, dude, we played a match against the, or member guests, I guess it was, played a match against the guy that came in from out of town as a six. And he shot his first 18-hole, two-nine-hole matches, 34-35. as a six piece. I was like, yeah.

I was like, wow, one of those days for the guy, the old one in a million round out there. It's important. You got to cheat more if you want to win

member guests, period. End of story. You know, it's funny because we'll just be sitting there afterwards and they'll all come up and they'll see me and I'll be like, how to go.

And they just, they have almost the embarrassing smile. Dude, you won't believe it. 14 under again. Shot 16 under again. I mean, this one team was leading by eight

after two rounds in a member guest. I'm like, you're out of your mind. now. It's crazy. And it's like successful guys with tons of money and stuff. I'm like, do you really need this thing in your office? Like, what are we doing here? Isn't it your rep worth more than this frigging trophy that no one cares about? What are you going to do that? I'll go buy you a belt in a pair of socks in the pro shop, dude. I mean, if you really want the pro shop credit that bad. But dude, it was Vegas. Yeah, who cares? Four nights, five days of fun.

Because Shadow Creek had theirs going on. The summit had theirs going on. So a bunch of people were in town. And it's, it's Vegas. Enough said. You know, it's one of our favorite places in the world. But I do got to say, thanks to Ben Lamb for having us, we have so much fun as always. But there is another massive thing that happened in the game of golf. And we got to get him as a guest soon. Harrison Frazier won on the PGA Tour champion. Now, this is a guy that took me under his wing when I was a young fellow back in Dallas, Texas. I love this man. He hasn't even playing a whole lot of competitive golf lately. He's been an actual businessman. He won out there on the champion steward i'm so pumped for him and he will be a hilarious guest yeah dude let's get them on

all the champions tour guys they get it they're at the point in their careers where they just get it they like to have a good time get them on let's have a couple pops and uh figure it all out all right and then lastly i am down here in australia for the asian pacific amateurs my third year doing it royal melbourne this year it's going to be a treat it is chilly and windy today but you know who i got my eye on this week this tournament's incredible winner gets in the masters in the Open Championship, but there's just one guy I got to go get an up close and personal look on. That's your man, Samson. Samson.

Samsonite. I knew it started with an ass. That dirty, filthy dog. He's the one, he was half of the Cal Bear University golf team team that clipped us in the USGA four ball. I had no idea who the guy was leading this thing. All I knew is like, they're not in NCAAs.

How great can they be? Turns out the kids first team, All-Pact-12, the second team All-American. One tons of shit, and he's one of the betting favorites going on in this thing. So go check on the kid. Last I remember, he hits it pretty straight and he hits on the green, and then he either makes it or just barely misses most of the time. So check out my boy, Samson, shout out.

I'm pulling for him. If we're going to lose, let's lose the best dude in that thing. All I know is that if I get his group, I mean, I'm not going to have to worry about doing any research. I got four hours of stuff to talk about. It's just you and Kittleson. That would be great. We're like, is this kid going to miss?

Fuck. Miss a shot, Samson. Well, it's going to be a lot of fun. Always fun covering this event. And I can tell you what else is a lot of fun. Our newest Tito's Golf Club subpar sponsorship. Sleez, are you tired of being bad at golf? Of course, what?

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But make sure you, I know you like little Titos. And once against Liz, in case you're watching on a video, you know, mentioned four or five days of Vegas. Just look right over here. You see that bad boy? That's the crown. Just a casino right out in my back window. Oh, good.

I need a little more. Good, perfect. What could go around? Yeah, good. Glad that's so convenient for you. Just in case you think you forgot how to play Blackjack up there. Same rules? Same rules, huh?

I think so. They probably just do it backwards. Done. Crush them. All right. Well, let's get to our guests this week. This man, he is one of the funniest dudes on the planet. Loves golf.

Love to toss some cards. If he was in Australia, he'd be at the crown, no doubt about it. The man, you got to know him from the office. Brian Bumgarner is on golf subpar. All right, we are very excited to bring on our guests this week because most of you already love him. He's a well-known actor. You know him as Kevin Malone from the office.

He's also a diehard golfer. Author of his own chili cookbook, likes to flip a few cards. He's just a really talented dude. We're thrilled to have him. Brian Bumgartner. How are you? You know what? I'm really good.

I get to hang out with you guys for a little bit, talk about golf. It's it's, it's, it's, it's a, it's a good day. It's a great day. It is a great day. And also two SMU Mustangs, one TCU Horn Frog, obviously couldn't get into SMU. Hail to the red and the blue, the Mustangs of SMU. The horn frogs are awful. I mean, they are awful this year.

Do we play? usually play. At this moment, we are recording this. It's going to come out later, but the game is this Saturday. It's this we kicked your ass, didn't we? How about that game? Did you believe

it? That ending? I can't. I can't believe that game. We killed you guys. Yeah. Oh, my God. I wouldn't have seen it from a mile away. Yeah, this is rarefied error when we got two ponies in the house. Do you follow the football program at all? You involved with the stangs?

i you know yes first off yes i uh you know until you guys cheated and stole our coach we were we were right there we're we're we're now coming back again we're joining the acc you guys are going to be in this conference that's not even going to exist in a year and uh it's all going to be roses you think you got enough money the pocket's deep enough to keep uh the ponies afloat while they don't get that tv money as SMU? Yeah, you got any cash down there? They're not known. They're not known for having cash lying around. They just raised $100 million in seven days. I'm not sure what took so long. How much of that were you? A hundred. $100 of it? Yeah. Nice. There you go.

Yeah, you guys were the, you guys were NIL before there was NIL, dude, the whole country, all these kids that are making $5 million a year need to salute the ponies. That's the nicest thing I'll ever say about them. How'd you end up at SMU? Like, what made you want to go there? the theater program the theater program at the time and i'm saying this not be it's always weird to say this because it's like a like a brag thing but it wasn't that because it was it was why i went um i believed at the time and i i still believe it's true it was the best theater training program they call it a conservatory training program right uh in the country of any university that was at a like a real university, meaning like liberal arts large university college.

So not like Carnegie Mellon or Juilliard, like a school that is specifically for the arts or theater. I wanted to go to a liberal arts college, a school that had a variety of other things to take advantage of. And an SME was the best. And that's why I ended up there. Slee's also home of Don Cheeto. Is that right?

Yeah. Really? She didn't with the SMU? Yeah, we got some actors, bud. Finally. Put something worth acting out of that. Actors and golfers. Yeah, that's right.

Actors and golfers. We talked about that earlier. But, you know, my experience there was, in some ways, and this is going to sound silly. I mean, you talked before we started about being in the, you were in the arts dorm there. There's, as I try to explain to people, it's. really not at SMU in a conservatory training program. It's really not dissimilar from being there for athletics because, you know, the amount of rehearsal, extra shows that you're doing, you know, it's like, like you, practicing, going to tournaments, you know, traveling around. It just

requires a whole additional amount of time that I enjoyed all the aspects. of university life, but there was a lot of extra stuff that I had to do besides just being a student and going to class. Well, that's awesome. It's great to have another pony on the show. But let's talk a little bit about your golf because we talked about it on your show, Lake Tahoe. I mean, the ultimate, the main event of the year. How long have you been playing Lake Tahoe and how much do you look forward to that each year?

This year was my 16th year. Wow. In a row. That is. awesome. It is, I consider it one of the great privileges of my life. I love that week more than any other week of the year. The friendships that I have made by going there. And look, you know, I'm a huge sports fan. I love, I love, I always love sports. And I'll tell you a quick story. I was, You know, I grew up in Atlanta and left Atlanta to go to SMU in the early 90s,

which was right about the time that the Atlanta Braves became really good with John Smoltz and Greg Maddox and Tom Glavin. And now most years, I play a practice round with Tom Glavin and Greg Maddox and John Fies guys that I grew up watching. and rooting for and like you know finally making baseball relevant in my hometown when i was a kid um it's it's it's just awesome i love it and it was it was fun having you guys there this year oh it's the best it's the best week of the year it's so fun the encore stuff is sweet the after the round stuff is sweet which we'll get into a little bit later but you're also diehard packer fan

and you've developed a nice relationship he's no longer packer of course but uh erin rogers that had to be another cool moment i mean the way that the circles collide that you never would think of otherwise yeah and a j hawk and um a jordan nelson played there uh for a few years um no it's it's incredible i mean the relationships that i mean at you know at some point i said you know i knew like personally knew uh 21 out of the 32 quarterbacks that were starting in the National Football League, like mostly through that and a few other things, but which is, I mean, it's just so fun for me. It's just I feel super lucky.

And to be able to play golf with so many of them is, yeah, it's awesome. So are you still loyal to the Packers? Are you now a Jets guy because Aaron Rogers is over there? I am a Packers fan. I also was at the first Jets game on. Monday night. You got some love from Rogers. He came running over. It was, it was very nice. You know, look, I, I, any Packer fan that is not still rooting for Rogers is an idiot. And I said it here. I mean, it's just, it makes literally makes no sense. Um, so, uh, yeah. And, you know, he's a, he's a friend of

mine. So of course I'm going to root for the Jets. I mean, why would I, why would I not root for the Jets? Do you think you had anything to do with Achilles? I mean, do you get them? I can't even make jokes. I can't even make jokes about it. I mean, I'm sure I'll get blamed somehow, but no, I mean, that was the worst. I, I have been lucky to go to a number of sporting events in my life, Super Bowls, World Series, NBA Finals games. I have never been in a stadium as electric as it was that Jets opening game against the bills before the game. Never. A part of that is 9-11.

Part of that is 55 years since their last championship. Part of that is 22 years to the day since 9-11. 12 years since their last playoff appearance, period, the longest in the league, by a lot, by the way. And the emotion and the hope that people had, truly, I will never forget it. And then, you know, 10, 11 minutes later, it was, it was done. It was the quickest deflation of a stadium in the history of deflations. The lead up to that game, that season, the offseason, hard knocks, everything. And that moment, he runs out with the flag.

I mean, the place was buzzed. You could feel it on TV. And then all of a sudden it was just like, done. Maybe Tom Brady and the Patriots, they deflated a little quicker. They did deflate. They're not, yeah. Wow. That's an horrible joke.

See what we did there with the football? A horrible joke. Don't laugh. With the only one laughing is him at himself, by the way. God, that was awful. Bum, serious question. Because, all right, you're a Georgia. a Bulldogs fan. You're a Packer fan.

Then you like the LA Dodgers and I believe the Lakers as well. You've been all over the country. How do you select where your fandom goes? I have very specific reasons. I have tough time. Like my childhood friends like from

Atlanta, they're like what the hell is wrong with you? Like, you know, you left. I mean, my, for me, the Dodgers which I talk about a lot, probably see most, you know, more than any other team. I love baseball. I loved baseball growing up.

And, you know, when I, my age, there was TBS, Turner, that all the Braves games were on. So like when I was growing up, everyone could see just the Cubs on WGN and the Braves on TBS. And there was no MLB network. There was no streaming all your team's games. So as I left Atlanta and went to college and then I started doing theater. So I was traveling around the country. I could still watch them and root for them and Bobby Cox and Chipper Jones and like all all the guys. I still felt really connected.

Well, by the time they kind of faded off. They weren't on TBS anymore. I moved to Los Angeles, fell deeply in love with Southern California. I mean, you know, you guys are golfers. I mean, you talk about the weather like it's a cliche, but it's really not a cliche. Like, I can golf any day of the year. And I moved to Southern California and essentially went, I'm never leaving here. I'm never going anywhere else.

And I love baseball. And the first summer that I was here, I got, my tickets got better as the years went on, but I bought a partial season ticket package up in. the upper deck at Dodger Stadium got season tickets that first year. And I just, I just changed. I was just like, I want to watch baseball. I want to go to baseball games. What? I'm going to be in Atlanta, maybe one game a year. I can't watch them. So I changed. And everything else is sort of natural. I went to SMU. I grew up in Atlanta going to the University of Georgia football games every Saturday.

And, you know, I'm, I'm friends of the Packers. Yeah, I get, I get it. How many games, how many Dodger games do you think you go to a year? Well, I've moved a little further away now. It's tough. I mean, there was a period of time where there's 81 home games. I was going to over 40. Oh, wow.

Damn. You're all in. That's real. Yeah. I was going to over 40. Not anymore. But, but there was a time that I was for sure. Staying on Southern California, give me your top two favorite golf courses to play.

In Southern California? Yeah. Yeah. Well, to me, I mean, I'm going to answer it by not really answering it, but to me, there is no question that in Los Angeles, Riviera is the best golf club. Sorry, best golf course, best golf course in Los Angeles. I'm not a fan of LACC, but there's a number of reasons. I'm not a fan of LACC.

They don't like me, so I don't like them as part of it. And, you know, but I think Riviera is, is the best course in L.A. In the north San Diego to San Diego area, you know, the bridges, Rancho Santa Fe, Golf Club. are spectacular. I, you know, back before, I was playing a lot of golf here.

I think Aviara is really great. They have an LPG event there or they did. I think they just stopped. Torrey Pines is great. If you can go play it when no one else is there, or you want to wake up and play at 6 a.m. I once walked off of Tori Pines. I mean,

do you know the, deal with Tori Pines, right? If you live in San Diego, it's $45 or something like that to play. And if you don't, it's like $400, $350 or something like that. Yeah. So you, you know, if you're a tourist and you're coming down, you want to play, you want to take your time. You paid all this money. Meanwhile, if you paid 40 bucks, it's like, I want to play in four hours. And then, you know, I walked off like whole 13 after four and a half hours there. I was like, I was enough. nothing is worth this. It's awful. But Tori Pines is pretty incredible. Yeah, there's some good, good options out there. How much are you playing on a typical week? Standard week. You're not

working, not doing anything. How many times are you out there? I say, I want to play twice a week. I almost never do. I did this week, this week, but this is probably the first week since around Tahoe, which is late July, that I will play at least two times this week I will play. Mostly it's one, you know, unless I'm playing an event and then it's six, you know, or whatever. Do you go full grind mode before Tahoe? I try.

Yeah, nothing's helped yet. I mean, if you have any advice for me, Colt, about Tahoe, I mean, I'll take it from anybody, even you. I think you should relax. I think you're doing Tahoe just right. Drink a little more and play some more cards. I think you'll be fine. You'll play better.

Yeah, try to gamble a little bit. No, I always try to do that. What is grind mode, though? Are you a guy that takes lessons? Do you like to work like that and get better? You just, I want to go play. No, I want to play. I mean, I want to play.

I mean, the thing is, is that it's not for me. Well, look. golf is not worth playing if you don't have money on the line. I mean, so let me be clear about that. Like, if I'm playing, if I'm playing,

there is a wager of some kind. And if for some reason, there's not, I'm not interested. And it doesn't have to be like huge, huge money, but there has to be something that I'm playing for. Otherwise,

it becomes, I think I'm not a great focus, practiser. I don't know if that makes sense. Like, see, for me, the whole idea of like going out on a course and hitting multiple balls, like, oh, let me, not if I'm straight practicing. Like, there's a short range now, you know, there's the driving range. And I'll hit, yeah, I'll hit ball after ball. But like being out on the course for me, I feel like the thing that's important is that is the mental aspect. And if there's nothing on the line, and I'll hit, yeah, I'll hit ball after ball. And I'm hit a shot, then it just becomes that mental like, oh, well, I wasn't really, that,

that doesn't count. Like, there's no consequence to it. So you drop another ball and hit it another one and you're not really focused. I don't know if that makes sense to you. Like, I have a difficult time when I'm like, oh, let me just try that shot again thing. That doesn't work for me. It doesn't care. It's hard to care if there's not something.

It doesn't have to be a ton of money, but it's got to be for something. And what's your like, you don't have to give denominations, but like your game, you go out with your boys. What's the game? You just play match play. You play some sort of exotic. I mean, I can't. I'm not supposed to mention the show that anyone would expect me to mention right now. But like, I don't, so I don't want to certainly don't want to do a quote from it right now.

But Wolf. Bingo Bango Bongo. Yeah, I can't say it. I don't even know what that is, by the way. NASA, Nassau, Wolf. hammer whatever anything anything with some little action get the nerves going yeah i would say mostly it's mostly it's a front back overall nassau all right some big news here from subpar we have officially launched our own youtube page make sure to subscribe at golf underscore subpar on youtube check out this

week's video uh like subscribe do all the stuff colt we got some cool behind the scene stuff coming and give you a little outside look at some of the stuff outside the studio so please like please subscribe you're the best listeners in the game we love you back to the show i was on your show earlier the off the beat the pot off the beat podcast and we were talking about you know your love for the game of golf you watch a lot of golf as well yeah who are some of your who are some of your favorites you did mention the seagull charlie hoffman yeah several times when we did your podcast who are some of your favorites to follow wow um well charlie charlie and i we are in a group uh where we play we play golf together quite a bit, at least within the group.

We play sometimes in the same foursome. But yeah, we have a Friday morning group. If I'm in town, it doesn't happen all that often, but if I'm in town, because I travel a lot, he travels a lot. But if we're in town, you know, we'll play together. So obviously, I love watching him. I, you know, I'm a big, I'm a big Justin Thomas fan as well. I really like that guy. I've gotten to know him a little bit. And, you know, that's, we were talking a little bit earlier is like that personal story and personal connection that, you know, that now either whether it's through the full swing show or, you know, seeing you interview somebody and and have somebody speak in a really frank and open way and you feel like you get to know the person a little bit. That's, I think that's what people tend to.

to root for. And I think that's the same with me. I met Rory McElroy. I actually interviewed Rory McElroy years and years and years ago. I shot a, it was before Rory McElroy became Roy McElroy. He was the nicest, nicest kid. And had a really good time. And since then, I've rooted for him, rooted for him ever since. Those are three, well, two good ones in Charlie. one of these things is not like the other i told you there's no one that whose nickname fits them better than the seagull and charley hoffman that's just on the on the planet not just in golf on the planet no one's nickname fits them better yeah it's pretty it's pretty special that's pretty and he likes it i mean every time he sees me on the golf course he gives it the wings it's so good

he's proud of it he is super proud of loves that reputation have you gotten to know like you've gotten to know all these other athletes. Aaron Rogers, we went through the list of some of them. Any other golfers you've gotten to know on a personal level? You mentioned JT. Phil, play a little golf with Phil down in Southern California. He knows how to talk to. By the way. Will he gamble, though? Used to. I don't know. Used to. Yeah, he used to. Yeah. All right. Let's move on from that subject. No, I, yeah, no, I, you know, he's, he's, no, he's a trash talker. He's a trice talker. He's a Trice Talker for sure.

Yeah, a lot of the, so I play in the, the, the, uh, Hilton Grand Vacations LPGA tournament of champions event down in Orlando. So I've gotten to know, uh, a lot of the ladies there on the tour, um, which I mean, by the way, you want to see like a controlled, uh, so many of,

of, the women, their controlled swing and their distance control in a lot of ways is better than men. I mean, it really, it really is. I mean, their accuracy off the tee, obviously they're not hitting it as far. But I mean, the distance control that they show is so fun to play with. You play the BMW on the cornfairy event sometimes. I do. I have.

Yeah, the last four or five years. Yeah, I really enjoy that too. the guys you know i'm not going to say they're better that's stupid but it's like the same as playing with the pGA tour players i mean it was like two years in a row was like max homa and then uh harry higgs and it's like you see them play and you're like man they should be like on the pGA tour and then like 35 seconds later they are like in becoming stars um on those tours. I really enjoy that.

And part of it is a conversation, you know, you and I were talking about earlier too, which is just they don't want to be there. So they are grinding and working really, really hard to make it to the next level. And you see that, that dedication and commitment.

It's really fun to see. And those guys have to shoot like 27 under at half of the golf courses. They're not the PJ tour set up. So it's just like, you have to go for broke out there and shoot 65 after 65 or lower to even try to have a chance. It's so deep and it's so good out there. Do you ever get out to the Corn Ferry event?

Like everyone our age, a little younger and definitely older, know exactly who you are when you show up. Now you're getting these kids like they're 21, 22. Do they ever like who the hell are? Who's our celebrity? Oh, the players? No, that's the thing is that, you know, the office, which I'm not supposed to talk about, but it just has a viewership that is is never going away it just repopulates i mean you know i've got 16 17 year olds and now parents who are talking to me about their kids were 16 or 17 years old

and are just watching the show and in love with the show and uh and you know a lot of times i'll say like what they're like 16 right it's become like required viewing for uh you know early high school kids or something. It's like they can't they can't they can't get into a good social circle unless they can quote every episode or something. It's like the one show I can think of and tell me if you can think of another one. What's it been off the air 10 years? It's still on every single day but it's been you've stopped recording for 10 years. I think it might be as big or close to as big if not bigger now than it was a decade ago and I can't think of another show that I can say that about. You're exactly right. It's crazy. Yeah. It will never. It will never.

go away. Yeah. Office and friends. Friends is hanging. Friends is, they're doing all right. Office. I mean,

it's on, I put it on for dinner every single night. Because I got little kids and I can't put on a lot of the stuff and like, they're going to know it. You know what I mean? Right. It'll be around. I want to go back to like the beginning of that, though.

I mean, you go in for an audition for the office and like you play one of the most famous characters, Kevin Malone. Was the plan all along to bring that character? Was that your idea or is that how they wanted it to be done? Um, my job as an actor is to create characters. So, you know, there's a blueprint, but if in any art form, it's got to be collaborative. So, you know, there's an idea of, uh, what the character is.

And then if the actor is, is doing their job, um, you're going to, you know, you're you're going to make something that's better than just one person can imagine. Did you know any of other cast members? Because the chemistry is part of what makes that show so great. It has an authentic feel to like a real life American office workplace. Did you know any of the other people going into that when you started recording? I knew Rain Wilson a little bit. I knew Rain Wilson a little bit from theater, but I didn't know anybody else.

No. No. Some of the improv people did, but I, you know, I didn't. When you first went in there and y'all got going season one and everything, did you ever imagine 201 episodes later? This thing would still be rocking? Never. No.

But I was dumb. I was young. I didn't know. I didn't know. I mean, so, well, so I said never, but like, could I ever have an imagine that it would be this? No. But I think at the time, it's like, you know, the cocky golfer who gets on the tour and thinks,

this is easy, you're just going to win. Like, I thought, oh, yeah, all you do is you get on a show and it's going to be, it's going to be a big hit, success, it's funny. What else could go wrong? I think now, looking back in retrospect, I mean, the fact that, you know, how many things had to go right for it to actually get where it did is, I mean, it's nuts. I mean, if I would have been terrified at the time, had I known what a long shot it was. Yeah, but it worked out. And I'll tell you, like, to this day, I go back on YouTube. I watch the bloopers all the time. Some of my favorite stuff was shooting it actually as fun as it looks like if you just watch the blooper reel?

Yeah, we actually that good of a working environment. We had a great time together. Yeah. Yeah, it looks. The bloopers are, do you ever go back and watch those? I mean, you lived it, but do you ever just kind of. of nostalgia, go back and check those out? No, not in the midst of a writer strike or actor strike. I don't watch anything at all. No one should. That's fair. No one should watch it. Fair enough.

No one should watch it. Don't watch it. Don't even turn your TV on. Other than the office, give me your favorite job you've had. And that is, well, I would say my, so just my favorite thing for me. Something you were in or, yeah. Anything you were a part of. of so i would say truthfully that the work that i've been able to do in sports is given me the most joy

which it all comes from the what do you call it the the fruit of that i mean no one would have asked me to do it but so you know like being able to you know not just be a guest but host good morning football on an NFL network a bunch or you know being able to to chat with Dan Patrick and Rich Eisen, you guys, of course, now that you finally invited me to be on your show. You know, that stuff is really fun. I produced a series of specials for NBC Sports. This is a while ago now that was actually about the American Century Championship in Lake Tahoe, leading up to that, me preparing leading up to that event.

You know, that stuff has been so, so fun for me to do. Yeah, you've done a lot of cool stuff, not just the office, the sports stuff like you mentioned. You started in theater out of all the things you've done. Is theater the toughest, given that it's live? There's no cuts. There's an audience out there. Is that the most difficult thing as an actor? Yeah, there is very little.

I mean, so look, right? It's like it would be like saying to Colt or, you know, Rory McElroy, you know, is that the hardest thing in the world? Like hitting hitting those shot. I mean, it was a poorly executed joke, but you got it. Like hitting those shots that you can't hit. You would say, no, it's not hard. You just, this is what you do. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Like, so like those kind of. things. The fact that it's live, you know, memorizing lines, you know, what you're supposed to do, all that stuff is not. But as a life, it's incredibly difficult. I mean, it's, it's, it is, you know, it's eight shows a week, right? And you have Mondays off, which by the way, no one has Mondays off. It's not like, let's go party on Monday night. Like, that doesn't happen ever. So you're doing two shows on either Wednesday and Saturday or Saturday and Sunday. It's, It's just a really, really difficult life. It's so rewarding because you're, you know, you're live in the moment experiencing something.

Like I imagine it would be for an athlete that is, you know, hits a shot or, you know, makes a kick or whatever live in the moment with all these people watching. There's an energy that's created there. It's a similar thing in theater. Like there's an energy that's created in the room that doesn't exist. when you're filming things. But it's really difficult, the schedule alone. And, you know, I don't know if you're aware of this. You don't make as much money doing theater as you do some of these other things either.

So that's a component as well. Hard to believe. Hard to believe. I know you were on Celebrity Family Feud and your team won. I believe your Celebrity Jeopardy is coming out soon. Which one would you say you're more of a specialist in? Jeopardy or Family Feud. Wow. I, well, you know, I am bound. So it's so funny, I don't even know how I would have answered that question, except in the last 24 hours from right now when we're speaking, I think I have gotten five messages. Clearly the promos for Jeopardy are running currently on television. So I guess I can confirm that I have.

appeared on Jeopardy. Yes. I can't say that I can't say anything about what happened. It's already done by the way. You say you're better. I mean, obviously you're really good at family feud. Well, I won. Well, I won family feud. Yeah. So like, but the whole thing we won, which was like a ton of money, which by the way, I will mention we gave to a local Scranton, uh, uh, women shelter, charity there in Scranton at the time was $50,000. So that was incredibly, that was, I mean, that was such a gift from it because we went and and toured and saw the facilities and saw the work, the good, good work that they were doing that, you know, this money could have helped them. That was incredibly moving. I did Jeopardy.

I cannot. There's, there is no way I'm getting in trouble with those guys. Yeah. It's, I was literally in South Carolina yesterday. morning and turned on the TV and I see the promo for it. And I'm like, oh my God, we're sitting down with him tomorrow. This is perfect. When does this air? I can't remember the date it said. Do you know when it airs? I actually, I am. I'm actually, I have not seen it myself. But I know that they're out because again, I've gotten these, I just returned a message. Someone asking me,

when is it on? I'm not sure. I check your local listings. Isn't that what you guys say in the in the business? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I will say this. Jeopardy is, and it's been a long time since family feud. So let me just say that. Both were incredibly fun. Jeopardy, as I guess you would expect, the tone of Jeopardy is very different than family feud. Like, we were given a speech, am I allowed to say, I don't even know, but this doesn't seem to be bad.

before the game from someone who was there whose job was essentially to make sure that the game was run correctly and that it was a federal law to essentially cheat on a game show this is this was like moments before erring we were all told this um And, you know, the time, you know, the timing, the, you know, how many seconds you have, the buzzer, phrasing it in the form of a question, you know, these are like all serious, like, rules. Family feud, you're making like sex jokes a lot, right? Like they're all like, you know, what's the, I guess that was the newlywood game, the famous one. But you know what I mean?

Like they're saying, like, what's the most attractive? part of your, you know, 100 people surveyed. What was the most attractive body part of your spouse? And they're wanting you to say like ass or, you know, some other word. My favorite one was when Steve Harvey said, give me a popular male's name that starts with the letter H. And the guy goes, bam, Jose. Jose.

And he was so confident. Well, you know, that's what makes that show fun. You know the the the this was the newlywed game because it was Bob Eubanks but you know that one. What's the I don't think what's the what's the what's the most adventurous place that you've ever made love? Um, well that would have to be in the butt, Bob. That's good. That's what makes it good. That's the.

In Celebrity Jeopardy. But sorry. And Celebrity Jeopardy, do they ever tell you, like, mess up on purpose? Because it's celebrity, it's supposed to be fun. Do they ever like, hey, try to slip up and say some dumb shit. No. No. No.

It's, no. Now, it's, the show is longer. There's more game, but there's also more time for, uh, for, there is more time for banter. But when the game is going, it's, it's what I imagined it to be very much like, real jeopardy. I don't know if you say that. But like, but that like regular.

Yeah. No, you're playing the game and the questions are serious and. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I can't wait to watch it. So stay tuned for that. Check your local listings.

Check your local. Let's get to the E9 before we get out of here. All right, Brian, we ask this to everyone. You can be somebody else for a day. Anyone over the history of time? Who would it be? I could be anyone else for a day who would,

it be just for one day just one day you get to walk in their shoes michael jordan love it popular answer i figured i was thinking about somebody else um i mean i was thinking about saying something else because i figured that's a popular answer but you know i i play i played quite a bit of golf with him as well and there is i mean who's more famous on the planet hard to say probably not it's hard to say yeah i mean does my name recognition and everyone's just obsessed with me i mean he's up there yeah i'm guessing y'all've had some battles out at shadow creek that's the great that's the ever clip him that's the that's the that's the best place um is there seriously though people people ask me that sorry i want you to answer the clip song or clip question

but people ask like last day last round of golf in your life i tell people with shadow creek like it is that good of an experience you know what you didn't ask me that. That's why when you have asked me and I said California, and actually I think I answered Southern California, because you know, I love pebble and some of those courses up there in Monterey. But I,

it's my one, Shadow Creek. Wow. I mean, because it's the full package. It's always in tremendous shape. Every, you know,

to me, what's a great golf course? For me, what's a great golf course is every hole is different, provides the potential to hit different kinds of shots with different obstacles in the way. The greens are lightning fast all the time. And it's beautiful. And the hang, how they treat people who show up there is, it's, it's. It's unlike anything in the world. The Rondarita.

Rondarita, which, you know, again, I don't know why. Why, this is going to be like the top story, like, getting mad at them. But like, you know, so like it's the totally opposite of LACC. Yeah, there you go. I mean, I agree with you. Then there's a lot of places like that, too, where the golf course is spectacular, the hang is a zero. Shadow's like maybe the pinnacle of elite golf course, elite hang.

also yeah you know both when people at it's funny because i get i get i get shy about this when people say like what's the best golf course you've ever played um i i always i had the opportunity really early on and no jokes pleased from either of you i was much worse than when i got an invite to pine valley and i played pine valley when i was worse and i did the like afternoon spent the night and then morning thing there and it rained both so i wasn't as good and it rained and walking and yeah i was i was as the the the the experience of staying there and all that that was awesome you know as from a golf experience for me it was like i was miserable i was wet and terrible and shame spiraling and like why am i here is this embarrassing and anyway so um you know that's

that's part of it for for that and there's no blackjack table at pine valley that's a bit of a drive it's a bit of a city Atlantic City's a hall it's a bit of a drive yeah I don't really go to Atlantic City I don't go to it I don't not that I don't really I don't go to Atlantic City yeah I don't blame you I've never been why would you you're closer to slightly a slight upgrade I would say from Atlantic City but that's a good segue into my next question because we you obviously like to fire a little bit you love your golf what fills your heart with more pure joy. A hot streak on the golf course

or a hot streak on the blackjack table. Your heart, remember that, not your wallet, your heart. Just pure joy. Oh, well, I've had many more hot streaks out of blackjack table than I have on a golf course. So I will say that. And it's really fun. I mean, my, I mean,

no, look, if I went out, for example, at at so one round I'm like speaking in circles but at one one one in Tahoe tournament a tournament round you can look it up I started on the back and I shot 36 on the back one birdie one bogey and if I had shot a 72 that would that would have brought me more joy you have pure joy yeah Yeah, golf. Yeah, like a PR in golf. Personal record in golf versus just catching a cold dealer just busting everywhere. Yeah.

I don't know, blackjack table is tough to beat. My next one, I want to stay on the blackjack subject. Okay, we're at Tahoe American Century Championship. You get a table. You can pick three other contestants in the golf tournament to be at that blackjack table because of fun, drinks, just the atmosphere. Who are the other three people you're allowed to sit at your table? Two are immediate, but I don't want to say two and then think.

So give me one second for the third. So I would say they're playing. Yeah, I would say it would be Aaron Rogers. It would be Mike Vrable. and it would be Mike Madonna. Oh, frigging Moe.

Moe would be surrendering. He's soft. Mr. positivity. Good old ray of sunshine, Mike Madonna. Yeah, but you know what? So he is,

the reason I said, the reason I said him is he listens, he listens. So I try to listen to him on the golf course. He listens to me on the blackjack table. And he's so sure. He's. going to lose, that when he wins, that joy that he has, he might say a blackjack table would

bring him more joy than the golf course because he, the smile he gets and the joy that he has makes it really fun. That's why I said that's awesome. He is the most negative good golfer in the world. Well, that's true. On the planet. And you also mentioned Mike Vrable. I met him with you there this year for the first time. The first night I got there, that guy is a 14 on a scale of 1 to 10. I love him. I mean, as long as you give me a 15, I'll agree with you. He is, he is, he is awesome.

I mean, well, let me put it this way. I, you know, except in very few exceptions. I mean, this is, you ask me about sports teams. I'm a Titans fan now. Like, you know, it's fair. very few exceptions, other relationships or long-term relationships I have or whatever, the Packers, blah, blah, blah. But like, yeah, I mean, I love the guy.

I love the guy. And now I'm like, you know, every week I'm like watching the Titans game because of him. That's great. He's just a dude. I'll give you some more sports questions here in a minute. I'll give you one TV one. You starred in one of the biggest shows ever. But if you could pick a character to play in any other show in the history of

television what character would you like to play uh well if you take away the fact that that he was a genius and no one could have done it better uh Tony soprano and the sopranos ooh good one oh very good very good answer I actually think yeah that would be you could have been cast for that he did do an unbelievable job all right next one for me which PGA Tour player is most likely to use one of Kevin's famous phrases, I got six numbers, one more would have been a complete phone number. So basically, who out of the PJA tour players do you think has zero game? I got one. Oh, that's not what I thought you were saying, and I almost answered the other way. Oh, like, I thought you were talking about intelligence. And I was about to answer

another way. Thank God you interrupted me, because I was about to, I was about to, I was about, You can take it that way if you want. Well, now I can't. Who has zero game? I mean, you'll tell me if I'm right or wrong. Who has zero game? Well, I mean, a lot of guys are married and not trying anymore. So that, I mean, does that mean they have game or they don't have game?

I don't. Well, if it was, if they weren't married, it'd be Charlie. Yeah, do. Historically. Yeah. It'd be Charlie. Pre-marriage. It would be Charlie.

Um, I don't know. I don't know. There's so many. I mean, I mean, I was going to say, I was going to say, Spieth only just because he's like so nice. He's just like so nice that. That's fair. That's a fair answer.

There's no wrong. answer. You know, but he's happily married and clearly he has game and I don't know. I don't know. That's a terrible question. Yeah. Yeah. A couple of terrible question. I wanted to hear where he was going when he thought it was just who's dumb. We'll do that off air. Yeah, I got an answer for that. All right. Here's a broad sports question. Like I said, you like the Lakers, Dodgers, Packers, Georgia Bulldogs. If you could only experience one title for the rest of your life from one of these teams, who do you want to win it? You know, So that is really, if I could only experience one for the rest of my life of my favorite teams,

I guess the Dodgers. I figured that. Yeah, I figured it couldn't be the Bulldogs because they're, I mean, because they're just going to. It's already happened. It doesn't even mad. I don't have to will that. Yeah, and you've already experienced it recently.

Yeah. Yeah. Dodgers are pretty damn good too. guys. They're not terrible. Yeah. All right. Next one. You don't care how you play. You have a bad week at Tahoe at the celebrity event, but you don't care because you beat so-and-so. Who's the one person you got to beat each year? Um, well, I mean, for years it was Charles. For years, it was Charles because it was just like I, you know, and when I started, he and I were not very far apart. But, you know, he's, he was hitting the ball so much better. I can't even. And we played

together on Sunday this year. And he was two under through the first three holes. And I went, oh, I'm going to lose to him. It's like this, this is like he was just on fire. And I mean, like, just nothing lucky, just great shots. He almost truly aced the par 312th that were where they were giving away the boat. I mean, it trickled so slow past the hole we all thought it was in and it's somehow stopped within

like three inches. You know, that's kind of an easy answer though. I mean, I love him so much that if he were to go out And like whatever happens, he turns it around and is like, you know, gets back to a, you know, four or five and like makes a run at the thing somehow. There would be nobody rooting for him more than me. I, I, I, I want I just, yeah, I really love the guy.

So it's like, it's not like there's a rivalry there. It was more like, you know, I want to, I want to. I want to play well. I don't, you know, I want to, you know, but he's, he's playing well. I did not want to lose to him this year. And he, he was beginning to chirp at me as we were playing on the last day. I think he thought he was going to catch, I think he thought he was going to catch me. So that did get the juices flowing.

He's gotten so much better. It just hasn't quite carried over to Tahoe yet. But it's baby steps first. You know, it wasn't long ago where he was playing from the other side of the ball. So it's like, you know, we got to crawl before you can walk. That's right. This kind of stays on the same theme here. I'm going to stick with a little bit of the gambling.

All right, you're in Tahoe and you're going to play a practice round. Who's the one guy you want to be paired with if you're trying to, if you're attempting to make it the most profitable practice round possible? The easiest money, basically. Oh, I know the answer to that. The easiest money? Yeah. Like, isn't that wrestler, the Miz or whatever?

He's terrible. Yeah. Oh, the Miz? Yeah, I thought you meant who would bet me a lot. That could be that too. Yeah. I mean, Rogers and I get good bets going. But like this year was really not profitable.

I did not play well this year. So it was really not profitable for me at all this year. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah. I mean, the Mizz struggled struggles there.

But the people love that guy. He's a man of the people. He is. He's into that golf. Yeah. All right. Last one for me. What's it going to take for you to try Aaron Rogers' new healing method of listening to

Dolphins' lovemaking to make your body feel better? Love making. Love making. Well said. Yeah. Have you heard this? What is this? So he claims listening to dolphins make love or have sex.

The noise of them is actually therapeutic to the body. Heels the body to hear dolphins bang. So that's why he thinks his Achilles will be ready by January. Because of dolphins. I don't know about that, but it does turn me on. Okay, perfect. As it should. As it should.

It did make your body feel better. It takes all the blood away from my injury. I don't know how this could possibly work. I love him, but he is so weird. It's great. I think he truly believes it, though, which makes it cool. Yeah. I think he honestly is like, yeah, dude, you listen to dolphins humping.

You get healed faster. Whatever works. Yeah. Whatever works is right. Bami, we can't thank you enough, man. You're a legend. We love talking to you. Keep improving that golf game and we'll have to get out and peg it sometime. Yeah, I'm going to try. You know, that's the thing is I will not quit trying. Although that is my new thing, which it usually works. I've got two on the golf course. The first is I got a three-footer. right so as i'm standing over the ball i will say to my playing opponent who is making me put the three-footer do you know what we're doing and they'll say what i'll knock it in and say wasting time that's my favorite that's that's my favorite but as i have not been playing well recently i have a new i have a new thing it usually works but not always which is would be

be something like I'm putting from off the green. Okay. On a par four and I'm lying too. And I'm putting from off the green and I'm not playing well. I might say something like this. If I don't par this hole, I'm quitting golf forever. And then usually,

usually it motivates me to, to work. Hey, whatever works. And they tell you to pick up the three foot or after that because I want you to quit. It's a little mind fuck the other way. You don't want to be responsible for me quitting the game. I love.

Yeah. Yeah. Game of golf would suck without you. Well, never quit, please. Thank you. I appreciate that. I do love it. I hope you guys are back and my beloved adopted wannabe hometown of Lake Tahoe next July.

But until that, I hope we'll be there. God will. I hope we see each other before then. For sure. And make sure everybody goes, checks out the off-the-beat podcast with our man, Brian Baumgardner. Brian, thank you so much, my man. Thank you. All right.

That was the beautiful Brian Bumgardner joining us on subpar. Sleys, I love this man. I got a chance to meet him a few years ago, play some golf with him. He's hilarious. I mean, he gets recognized everywhere he goes for one show specifically. Hard to miss. And by the way, for the first time you talk to him, it's the biggest mind trip in the world because all you've ever seen him be is Kevin Malone, basically.

And then you talk to him and like, he's articulate. He's smart. You know, like, oh, my God. Like, he's the most polar opposite from Kevin Malone. you could possibly be. Like, we just had Joey Farrar on, right? Who's Turtle? You talk to Joey, and it's like, dude, it sounds like Turtle.

I'm sorry, Jerry. He sounds like Turtle. He kind of acts like Turtle, like, shoot all that. Loves all the New York teams. Like, it's kind of the same guy. Then you talk to Brian and you're like, oh, my God. Like, it is far from Kevin Malone. But he's awesome and that show will live on forever.

Well, he's an SMU Mustang, so he's. Of course he's intelligent. Yeah, he breaks the mold there. They slipped one in. they slipped one in there. That was fun sitting down with him. Speaking of intelligent, let's make some intelligent gambling plays right now

because as usual, that's what we do. Listen, eventually this team's going to come through for me. I think it's about one and six on the year they've covered. So just betting on, eventually it's got to go their way. And they're the number one team in the country. Give me Georgia minus 14 and a half over the Gators. I don't think you've taken a line under like 14 yet this year. Like USC minus 31, bet.

Michigan minus 400. Pat. I took Penn State last week as an underdog and look what happened. I lost. Yeah, good point. Stick with the faves. And shame on me. I'm doing the exact same thing.

I'm taking Ohio State minus 14 and a half over Wisconsin. They had that close one with Penn State this past week. I just seen Wisconsin play this year a good bit. They just have virtually no firepower, it feels like. If Ohio State gets rolling on offense, I don't think Wisconsin can keep up. So just got to avoid a little snoozer game after the Penn State game. from Ohio State and get paid. That's the plan. And if you lose, throw another shrimp on the bobby and go at it again. Yes, throw that out to the locals and see if they think you're one of them.

Yeah, I like that. They'll feel big. Oh my God, dude. A local. Perfect. I ask you for directions and shit, probably. All right. Well, I got to get out of here. I'll see you when I get back to America. Thanks for everybody. Everybody for listening. We'll talk to you on the next subpar.