Subpar - Brian Harman Interview: Playing with Anthony Kim at the Walker Cup, his mindset competing against golf's longest hitters

Episode Date: August 10, 2021

On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar, two-time PGA Tour winner Brian Harman joins former PGA Tour pro Colt Knost and jicky jack legend Drew Stoltz for an exclusive interview. The former Georgia Bul...ldog talks playing Augusta National during college, competing alongside Anthony Kim at the 2005 Walker Cup, and his mindset going head to head with golf's longest hitters.

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Starting point is 00:02:14 And, I mean, honestly, Colt, you were out there at the turn, after the 10th hole where Bryson hit the three wood in the water, I was ready to maybe take a nap or go to bow. I was like, yeah, this is going to be a snooze fest. Harris is going to have a three-shot lead. He's just going to suffocate these guys, fairway, greens, two-putt, get this thing done. And then fast forward about eight minutes and all hell broke loose. And it didn't stop for the rest of the tournament. You even heard an Abe's interview.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Like, he looked up and he was shocked that he was, you know, tied for the lead at one point. So weird stuff happens, man. Abe's had put some good terms before come up just short. And then this one, I mean, I think you could have told him at the end, you're going to lose by three. And he would have been like, yep, that sounds about right. And now he walks off as the champion. Yeah, it's so cool to see.
Starting point is 00:02:55 I mean, this guy, he's got all the game in the world. One of my most epic failure in sports predictions ever when I played with the McHugh School back in 2011. I thought this guy would be looking for a job pretty soon. Now he's one of the best players in the world. WGC. So awesome to see. happy for him. I was there to congratulate him afterwards. I just love it. And by the way, you know, we recently partnered with Fandul. We're one for once, Leith. Last week in our episode,
Starting point is 00:03:20 we talked about some guys we like. We mentioned Brooks Kefka. We mentioned Daniel Berger. But then we also slid in there at 41 to 1. We loved Abraham Answers odds of getting the job done at the WGC. And we did it. So we got to keep this thing rolling. That's what we were saying. Boats, yachts on the reg, all that. PJ's on the reg. There's it right there, 41 to 1 with Abe answer. And we got to talk a little bit about that closing stretch there. Two things. One, Cam Smith, dude, 18 blows the driver right into the trees. I was fully expecting him to punch out, play it from the fairway. Here's one of the best wedge players on the PJ Tour. Having one of the best putting weeks in the history of PJ Tour golf, I was like, it's a no-brainer. It looked like
Starting point is 00:03:59 there was absolutely nothing on the broadcast. I couldn't tell. When he got over the ball, I was like, oh my God, he's going up in the air. But, I mean, just watermelon-sized nuts on Cam Smith, to even try that. Not saying it was the percentage play or the smart play, but I mean, the marbles on cam went up in my book a lot for a guy that I already like, just even attempting to pull that shot off. But the caddy might have been like, hey, dude, looks like PAR might get us in a playoff. Abe's over there about 30 feet. Probably not going to make it. Maybe we just pitch it out and you stuff a wedge like you've done, you know, over and over throughout your career. But that was a shocker. Yeah, there was a few on that, on that back nine. I mean, Harris English, going at the
Starting point is 00:04:36 pen on 11 hitting in the water, making double. Yeah, it was a very interesting background. I was with you. I kind of thought this thing was over. Then all of a sudden, I'm like, oh my God, I got to turn my car around. I was ready to get out of there. I had Hadeki Matsiyama and Sam Burns group that finished an hour before the leaders did. I was getting ready to go to Nashville. And I'm like, ooh, boy, we might want to stop, pump the brakes, turn back around because I'm going to have to work this playoff. But at the end of the day, A Banser got it done. We're one for one with Fandul. Coming up after our special guest today, we're going to make our picks once again and see if we can go two for two with Fandle.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Yeah, some big weeks for some boys. The last event of the year to slide into that top 21, 25, get your way into the FedEx Cup playoffs. There's some big names, and the guy I'm picking this week, a very big week for him as well, but it's a massive week for a lot of guys out there. Some guys are just jockeying for position for the FedEx Cup playoffs, and some guys are trying to play their way in there
Starting point is 00:05:27 and avoid going back to Corn Ferry Finals, which is a scary place to be. Yeah, like you said, there's a lot going on. The Wyndham Championship, otherwise known as the Web Simpson Invitational, where he just cashes money around that joint like nobody else. But listen, there's the 125, trying to finish top 150 to have conditional status. Top 200 gets you into those Corn Prairie Tour playoffs, which is the only way to get yourself your PGA tour card back. So very, very important. There's also the Com Business, Comcast Business Top 10, which is a nice little bonus.
Starting point is 00:05:57 We finished 10th, it's a half a million bucks. You win it is 2 million. So there's a lot to play for. And the field is pretty stacked because there's some big names right around that bubble, get into the FedEx Cup playoffs. So it's going to be exciting to watch. We're going to break it all down for you after our interview today. And our special guest this week is Brian Harmon.
Starting point is 00:06:14 The only guest, I believe so far that I've been taller than. So that was a big bonus for me. But the Georgia Bulldog, man, I tell you what, I think people are going to see a different side of Brian Harmon than he's ever shown before. We had so much fun with him. This dude's awesome. If we could have had the mics on before the show started and after the show started, it would have been an even better episode.
Starting point is 00:06:31 But this dude, I mean, we'll get into a lot of it. But he's the Bulldog of Bulldogs. he went to Georgia. Every time he comes on the broadcast, they talk about this guy's a bulldog. You know, he's just a fighter. He's a scrapper, all this stuff. But also a guy that's just been awesome at golf
Starting point is 00:06:43 since he came out of the womb. He's one of the few guys, and we talk about this too, that junior golf, he was the guy, college golf, he was a stud, came out, turned pro, got his card really quickly, never finished outside the top 100
Starting point is 00:06:54 on the FedEx guy. He's never sniffed losing his card or having to go back to Corn Ferry Tour finals or things like that. That's not many guys in that same category that have been on the BJ Tour as long as Brian Harmon. Not at all. Hell of a player. I've known him for a very, very long time.
Starting point is 00:07:08 I played on two Walker Cup teams. Incredible story. His hunting story, I mean, it's like, I don't know, it's like talking about caffeine with you. You just get so excited. He lights up, dude. He is a hunter-gatherer. He does both. He hunts and then he gathers. And he's killed a lot of shit. We talked to him about it in his Instagram. It looks like National Geographic Atlantic. Like I said, but dude, he loves some outdoors. All right, Sleys, before we get to our man, Brian Harmon, you know, there's really only one option when it comes to golf shorts. And that's Travis Matthew.
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Starting point is 00:09:03 That's SPP20 at Travis Matthew.com to order the back. All right, here he is. Brian Harmon on Golf Subpar. All right. We are out here at beautiful Windyke Country Club, Memphis, Tennessee. We got a two-time PJ Tour winner with us here today. I feel like this dude's been making tweets since he came out of the womb. Brian Harmon, the pride of Savannah, Georgia.
Starting point is 00:09:26 What's going on, baby? What's up, man. How are you? I'm glad to be here. Thanks for having me. Be harmed. Very excited about this. Me too.
Starting point is 00:09:31 We go way back. I mean, you've been kicking ass for age. Let's talk about it a little bit. When's the first time you picked up the game of golf? Obviously, you won the U.S. Junior at 2003, but did you start at a crazy young age? No, I was a ball player. I played baseball up until I was probably 15, 16 years old. But I grew up at a golf course, and I think I don't know exactly when I picked up a club for the first time,
Starting point is 00:09:54 but I can remember 97 Phoenix Open. I was home sick, home sick from school. The Tiger Raising the Roof, hole in one. Steve Jones won that tournament. Omar Yaresty played with him. You don't remember that? he's still playing so I watched that on TV and I was just
Starting point is 00:10:10 enthralled by it and I loved it and I lived about a mile and a half from like this driving range and I'd ride my bike and I started hitting balls fell in love with it and I started getting golf magazines flipping through I'm like man they're playing like red
Starting point is 00:10:23 teas and shooting you know 40 and winning these nine hole events so I signed up for one one one another one and just kind of off the race Were you always left handed? No I'm right handed yeah do everything right handed When I was a kid, I would bat, you know, every time I pick up a bat, it's lefty.
Starting point is 00:10:40 So my parents thought I was going to throw lefty. So give me a right-handed glove, throw me the ball, catch it, take the glove on, fill it back to him. Tough to be shortstop. Yeah, left-handed shortstop. It would be a nightmare. But, yeah, I just kind of found it organically, which is nice. My parents don't play. Neither one were any good.
Starting point is 00:10:58 My brother's starting to pick it up. He's starting to do all right at it, but just found it, loved it. And yeah, man. So six years from starting to win in the junior am, which you won in 2003. We were just talking about this before we came on. I feel like you were one of the only guys I was talking to cold about this. It's like, in junior golf you were winning everything. And college golf, you were really, really good.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Then you got out on tour quickly. And then you've been great, you've never not been. There are very few guys that are good at every level going through. You're one of the only guys I can think of, really. Charles Howe, maybe? I love golf. I'm not like, I'm not embarrassed that I love golf. Like, you know, I love to hunt.
Starting point is 00:11:33 I loved the fish. But even like, oh, like, you know, do you wish you were hunting a fish? I'm like, well, yeah, I love to hunt and fish, but I couldn't do it every day. Like, but I could play golf every day if I had to, you know what I mean? I feel like we both kind of realized at a young age as well, we weren't going to be six, five. And no, no, no, no, no, no. There wasn't a whole lot of options for us. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:11:49 I can remember a dude hit a curveball. I threw, like, 450 feet, and we're like, 14. I'm like, well, that's out. And then, and then this dude was bringing heat one day. And, I mean, I closed my eyes and connected. Dead center field hits the middle of the fence. I'm like, I can't hit a home run. Can't run very fast.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Guys are hitting bombs off of me. Figure it out. Absolute missiles off of me. That's awesome. Was Georgia always the dream school? Yeah, my granddad was a huge Georgia football fan. Went to Georgia. I don't know what year he graduated, but always loved Georgia and always wanted to go there.
Starting point is 00:12:24 And it just happened to be a great golf program, too. Does any kid who's a stud junior golfer in Georgia, growing up in Georgia not want to go to Georgia. I can't think of the last kid that maybe Georgia Tech, but I can't remember the last stud in Georgia that left. I guess if you were super good at math, maybe like Georgia Tech is a disruption. But, no, I mean, you know, we had guys right behind me, Russell, Harris, Hudson,
Starting point is 00:12:44 even though he's from Tallahassee, Florida. That's more Georgia than Florida. Count it. Yeah, I grew up a huge Georgia football fan, and that's what I wanted to do. But you mentioned all these guys. I mean, you just mentioned, you know, Harris, Russell Henley, Swofford. I went to SMU, he went to TCU. The qualifying wasn't that hard.
Starting point is 00:13:02 If you were a good player, you got on. You could have a bad round, I feel like, and then all of a sudden you miss a tournament. Patrick Green was our sixth man. Well, there you go. His freshman year. He could have played for us. He could have made it.
Starting point is 00:13:13 Love you, Patrick. Yeah. Yeah, it was, so my freshman year, it was Kevin Kisner, Brendan Todd, Chris Kirk, Richard, did I say Richard Scott already? Richard Scott, Canadian Amher, three-time. and myself and then my senior year it was me, Adam Mitchell, who's my partner in the Walker Cup,
Starting point is 00:13:34 and Harris, Hudson, and Russell. All right. Who is the kid? He's got eight guys in there that have won multiple times on tour. Yeah, and they're all mostly from Georgia. Mine is like Richard Scott, basically. But who is, did you have like a rival in high school, like another Georgia guy you wanted to beat more anything and all of a sudden you're on the same team with him in college?
Starting point is 00:13:52 Yeah. So Michael Green came into Georgia the same time that I did, and we were both, you know, really good junior players. and he's from Augusta, and I mean, he beat me a bunch. Like, he was a really, really good junior player and was good in college, too. It just couldn't. Wasn't really fair. He had his mom out there. She was distracting.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Yeah, that ain't a fair. I forget about he had a very pretty mom. It's going to make Michael so bad. What do you think about his mom? He's listening. We'll send it to him, don't worry. What do you remember most? He's got him a baby boy now, man.
Starting point is 00:14:19 He's doing great. He's lawyering up in Atlanta killing it. I love that. I hope he's listening. That makes me so happy you brought him. That is. You played on the Walker Cup team in 05 and 07, but one of the tournaments that I remember the most was the 2007 Porter Cup, where you just beat the brakes off of everybody. I was thinking, I didn't make it in 07.
Starting point is 00:14:37 I made an 09. We're going to get to that. Yeah, I played 05 and 09. The best part about that 07 Porter Cup is that I was playing terrible. I've been playing awful all summer, and then I don't even remember, but Morrison comes up to me and goes, hey, me and you are wheeling against everybody in the field. It's like Colton Dustin, Colton Chris Kirk, Colton, Billy Herschel. I think we lost. Yeah, I'm like, I'm like, Mike, I don't have the money, man.
Starting point is 00:15:03 He's like, oh, we're playing. It ended up being, we're playing like $500 a hole or something. And I'm like, bro, I don't have it. Like, I don't have the cake. Were we all doing that? Yeah. Well, Mike, he's, you know, successful business guy out of Atlanta, midam, and he's, I'll front you.
Starting point is 00:15:17 And I'll front you. And I play the best golf ever played my life. He was 20, 200 wins by like 11. Yeah. So we lost, basically. But to be fair, Dustin and I at the Jones Cup earlier that year just beat the breaks off everybody. So it's kind of just handed the money back. Yeah, just boomerang.
Starting point is 00:15:29 One hand feeds the other. Let's go to that 2005, though, Walker Cup, because you were on the team, that was a squad. And your partner. AK. Yes, the legend. Tell us about playing with AK. Yeah. AK is probably, I mean, if he's not the best, he's top three, like, most talented, incredible golf.
Starting point is 00:15:47 I mean, just top to bottom golfer ever. I mean, it's incredible what he could do. I mean, he could hit it as far as anyone when he wanted to. His short game was just out of this world. And his iron shots, I mean, he choked down this far on the iron and just mashed it. I mean, everyone was right out of the barrel. I mean, you know, you play with him. I've seen it.
Starting point is 00:16:08 And he was doing things like even in college. I remember the first time I played, I was like, I got in the bus afterwards. I was like, they're not a person here that can hold a camp. But he would, like, be fading shots into hook winds with irons from the fairway and doing stuff that tour pros were doing at age 19, 20, whatever. He could do whatever he wanted to do. Yeah. I can remember, so we were partners, were playing alternate shot,
Starting point is 00:16:25 we get out of the first day, and he's, like, super nervous. And I'm like, I can't believe I might have to, like, calm this guy down. Because I'm like, Anthony, like, you are so much better than anyone here. Like, all you have to do is just keep breathing, and we're going to wax these guys.
Starting point is 00:16:41 You know, like, six and four of them. And it's like, bro, just left foot, right foot, man. That's all I need. Just don't trip. But I feel like the state upright. You're better. The people nowadays, though, they don't realize that didn't get to see him play.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Like, we saw him play. It's just like, everyone asked, who's the best player you ever played with? And I'm like, Anthony Kim. And they're like, I'm not kidding you. Like, day in, day out, it was just a joke. Just, and he would do it. It was like, like, like, he would show off sometimes. You know, he would be playing so good and be like, oh, watch, I'm going to,
Starting point is 00:17:09 I'm going to make Bertie like this this time. It's just nuts. Yeah, he'd hit like seven iron from 180 to 13 feet and then like slam his club. And I'm like, oh, my God, I would be overjoyed. I watched him whole more iron shots. Like, I think I remember him holding more iron shots than I can remember me making, like, through my entire career. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:27 He just watched him just make iron. That Walker Cup, I mean, it was a nail-biter. Yeah, we won about a half a point, yeah. Him and I, actually, we had our first match. We were, like, five down through seven holes or something. Came back and halved them, and then we won big the next day. And, yeah, I mean, some guy had, like, a 30-footer to retain the cup from them and missed it. So, I mean, you played on two Walker.
Starting point is 00:17:50 which I mean I don't know how you feel but team golfs as cool as it comes yeah yeah how important is it to one day in your career play a president's cup or a rider I mean it's it's at the forefront for me it's something I would be super proud of I had a really good chance a few years ago and just couldn't just couldn't find it towards the end of the year which was kind of a bummer but you know it would be it would just be the coolest thing I think yeah it's I mean that up there with like winning again or being I mean they kind of go hand in hand, but you know, I don't know. I mean, I think I would probably win another, rather win
Starting point is 00:18:24 another tournament. It kind of one feeds the other, but yeah, so you keep winning, you're going to be on plenty of teams. Can you get AK back if you get on a team? Maybe the only way I'll play is with Anthony. I would take AK right now. I don't care if he hasn't touched the club in a year. I would pick him first as my partner in any team in any, like, we've kind of indirectly a little bit, and we hear rumors. Have you talked to him? I secondhand talked to him through Paul Vizanko, the guy that's with Scotty Cameron, because he's like still really good friends with him. Every time I see Paul, I'm like, hey, tell Anthony I'm thinking about him, hope he's doing well. And he always says, oh, Anthony says hello, thanks for me.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Yeah, he's like Sasquatch. You hear about sightings, but no one can really confirm it. He showed up at, like, the Santa Monica Pier one night. What's random? It comes out of nowhere. Like, what are you doing here, man? Dude, he's unbelievable. Man, you know, you keep hearing these rumblings that he might be making a comeback at one point.
Starting point is 00:19:14 I hope he really does. But I got to ask you one more thing about the University of Georgia, because I think one of the big perks is you get to go play a ghost of National. Right. First up. How often does that happen? We would play once a year. You get once a year?
Starting point is 00:19:25 Yeah, we'd play once a year. And one of the years we went like in December and it was miserable. It was like three wooded into one. It was terrible. And then the last couple of years we did like three weeks before the Masters. I mean, it's just it's the coolest piece of property on Earth. I mean, it's the coolest piece of property on Earth, the history, the golf course, what it means, how it's set up, how it plays. It's just, it's the coolest place on Earth.
Starting point is 00:19:48 I went for the first time this year. And I could not believe how big the place is. Oh, it's huge. In the hills. The hills. I mean, you walk out of the back of the club. I'm like, oh, my God, I can see, like, I can see 12. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:59 It's crazy. Yeah. One of the other, of all the things you accomplished in college, another, I think, I think, gets overlooked. You managed to go to Georgia, arguably the best party school in the United States and also make good grades. That's not easy to do. I mean, I dabbled into mild alcoholism. Mild is fine.
Starting point is 00:20:16 As evident in my second team All-American, second-team all-American, second-team all- American, not an all-American, like second or first team my last year. So I took a couple of years off there to really so much. That's pretty good balance down there in Athens. It was so bad, man, because every, so there's like a hundred bars downtown and they would all like stagger their drink nights. So like I can remember like Monday night was like penny beer night at generals. Like, well, definitely going to do that. And then like Tuesday night is, you know, somewhere else in Wednesday night. And then we had a rule on the team like if one of us went out, even if we had qualified next day, We all had to go.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Yeah. That's the playing field at least. It was like a team building exercise. Yeah. There was a place on Tuesday night when we played the corn fairy event there. It was Tuesday night was the place to be. Well, they all like, it's like a revolving door of like failing bars in Athens because it's like you start and then like everyone shows up. And then like they hire the wrong people.
Starting point is 00:21:09 They give all the drinks away for free. They go out of business. And then someone else comes in, new name, new ownership. Yeah. Same cycle. Get stung for fake IDs. Yeah, come on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:19 You draw your face on a nap. again age 24 oh man they would come in with those paddy wagons and they would just pick people out of the crowd like you're coming with me you're coming with me you're coming with me penny beers imagine that I mean those are the days penny beer night at Georgia and then every night at uh um this place called bourbon street that 10 to 11 10 to 11 it was a dollar well-drank liquor yeah I mean dude dollar a drink I can remember my dad comes and visits me and he goes and he's like and he's you know 15 of us all buddies and stuff he's all right I got the first round and they uh you know They pour all the drinks, and they're like, I don't know, $750.
Starting point is 00:21:53 He was like, what? So he orders a pitcher of vodka cranberry. Perfect. How much is a pitcher? They're like, ah, four bucks? You show up with $20 so you can get alcohol poisoning, period. That's awesome. Let's talk about when you turn pro, because you turn pro in 2010,
Starting point is 00:22:07 and you didn't spend much time, as we call it, the jicky jacks. You had a little bit of time out there. I took my lumps. I took my lumps. I went to Morocco and played too many tour events. But I feel like you realized pretty quickly, like, I got to get out of here. Yeah, Q school is tough, man. I missed first stage twice.
Starting point is 00:22:25 I knew if I could just ever get the ball rolling. I finally got through my third time. I just feel lucky that, you know, you could still get a tour card through Q school. Because if I had to do another year of, I mean, I guess I'd have been fine. You do doing the nationwide or web.com or cornferry, whatever it was then. And, you know, that would have been fine. But I like being able to get out on tour, cut my teeth, and then just get the ball rolling and be done with it. and I have to be relegated down and, you know, spend a year and playing places that you're not going to be playing on tour.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Because the golf's totally – I never spent any time out there, but the golf's totally different. I just got to shooting 28 under every week. Yeah. I remember you showed up in Arizona for the gateway tour, like one or two events. I'm like, what the hell is he doing? He's good. This is bullshit. Stay where you are, and you're also too good to be here.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Yeah. Yeah, I play the Gateway, and then I tried the Monday for the Phoenix Open, which is the hardest Monday. Make a bogey. It's a tour event. The afternoon wave is a tour event. Like, winter, winter. Yeah, and only it was like three spots or something like that. It's like 150 guys for three spots.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Yeah, yeah. Give us a little look, because you're one of the many guys on tour that lives in Sea Island. Give us a little look at that, because we could ask about Wistbrook, kind of the same, I guess, out west, but who are the guys you play with? What's the off weeks? Are you gambling? What are you guys doing?
Starting point is 00:23:38 Well, first off, if I lived anywhere else, I would live in Scottsdale and be a member at Wistbron. We got your cover. It is the coolest place, I think. But Sea Island's great, man. we don't we don't do games like y'all do which is something that i feel like i miss out on sometimes and our golf ends up being like really slow sometimes we have a lot of resort golf but see island's been so great to me ever since i turned pro the facilities are incredible um you know i got tons of
Starting point is 00:24:04 place to work out tons of place to play um we gamble but it's not like it's not like y'all gamble you have some you have y'all gamble you got the seaside course there you've got frederica um ocean forest by the way i've never played ocean forest i heard it just kicks the shit out of you. If the wind blows, it's impossible. Sounds great. I don't want to play it. Yeah, neat. Small green, small fairways, rough.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Let's talk about that first PGA Tour win, though, because I'll never forget, John Deere, you were... Yeah. That was your kind of your breakthrough moment. What was it like to finally realize, okay, I finally did it. I'm a winner on the PGA tour. Well, it was really, I mean, it was great
Starting point is 00:24:39 because I get paired with Stricker the last day, and I just had like this kind of moment of clarity the night before. Got a one-shot lead. Strickers won six times. or whatever he has. And my wife, she was my fiance at the time, she'd flown in, you know, just trying to black cat me like crazy, you know. So anyway, I remember talking to him, like, hey, look, tomorrow you're going to be walking around and everybody's going to be rooting for Stricker.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Like, he's the guy here. And just don't let that get, like, under your skin because I feel like if I see you and you're, if I see, like, you know, frustration on you, it's going to, like, you know, I'll feel that. And, you know, I eagled the second hole and made a really nice birdie on nine. And I think I birded three or four on the back nine. And, you know, I knew if I beat Stricker, I was going to win the tournament. And I just beat him. You know, it was one of those days where I was like, all right, today's my day. And then I did it.
Starting point is 00:25:31 And I was like, all right. For those of us that don't know, like, once you get that first win, is it kind of just like, all right, here we go. Like, I belong here. Like, things become almost easier for you out there? You know, it actually, it got harder. You know, the two years after I won, I struggled. I didn't do great.
Starting point is 00:25:47 It was like I'd put so much energy into winning that when it happened, it's like almost took a mental break. And I kind of let my guard down a little bit. I think I thought I was better than I was, expected to like get into more tournaments more often. And it just didn't. You know, I didn't work as hard as I should.
Starting point is 00:26:04 And that's kind of what I'm going through now. I won again in 2017. And I tried so hard not to let that happen again. But it's just hard to win. I mean, I just, it's really, really hard. to win because you have to beat a PGA tour player that's having the week of their life every week. Time me right real quick. I've had to send him a car, so just don't want to.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Oh, okay. It'll just take one second. Yeah. Yeah, just keep rolling. I just got to tell them what it is. I'll just ask something. I'll just ask something straight. Yeah, I saw something going on.
Starting point is 00:26:37 I didn't know what it was. Porn addiction. Yeah. You porn. Drop the new video. Got to see it. Sorry. Was Athens the spot?
Starting point is 00:26:48 Somebody told him about this. I think it was Athens. The penny beer night was the rule it's penny beers until someone uses the bathroom. And then when somebody uses it, it ends. Was that Athens? I was going to ask you that, but we got going on something else. But I thought that was it. Someone told me, like, they have penny beers.
Starting point is 00:27:03 I've heard that about somewhere. But as soon as the, God, that person's got to get punched. Oh, just booed the hallway. There's like, they'll put dudes in front of the door. And if you try to go in, they're like, mm-mm, over there. Like, you ain't getting in. I didn't know if that was it or not. All right, we're just talking about you on them.
Starting point is 00:27:17 So he said how hard winning is. You mentioned how hard it is to win out there. You get your second win in 2017, and you take down arguably the best golfer on the planet right now, Dustin Johnson. And Pat Perez, but whatever. He doesn't really matter. Mostly DJ. Yeah, mostly DJ with an epic putt on the 70s. Pat tells a great story that Pat's in the locker room and they're watching.
Starting point is 00:27:37 And, like, you know, I hit kind of a marginal chip and both of them are kind of getting ready to go out to the range. And so I make the put and Dustin looks at Pat's like, well, what happens now? And Pat's like, well, go home. That's what happens now. Well, DJ, here's how it works. Go home, Dustin. What do you think? What happened?
Starting point is 00:27:53 He actually shot one shot lower than we did, so we lost. This is the way. That tells the story so much better than I do. It is so funny. What do you mean? What do we do? We're fucking go home. That's a good DJ impression, too.
Starting point is 00:28:04 You want it, so you want it, John Deere, you want a quill haul. Two very different types of tracks. What's up? It was a one at one and down at Eagle Point, but it was a little point. Oh, okay. But, I mean, it was a 10 under. Oh, yeah. It was a low scoring.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Ten under there, 22 at John Deer. What type of golf course do you think is like if you had to pick like a style, I guess. Like is it short and narrow? Is it big and long? Yeah, I've done good at both. You know, I wanted at a birdie fest and I wanted a place that played more like a U.S. Open. The U.S. Open that played great at was a birdie fest, you know. But it was big and long. It was a big and long.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I tend to, if a course is big and long, but that they give me a place in the front of the green to either get up and down or run a ball up, I'm fine. The places where I struggle were, where do we used to play this tournament? Was that, um, um, tigers? I want tiger. No, Tiger won, Tiger won the old WGC. Oh, Firestone. Firestone.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Yeah. It's everything's a force carry. Yeah. Right? So, like I'm having like force carry five irons into the green. It's all protected front with like bunkers you can't get up and down from. That's where I struggle. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Yeah, because you've done good at very different styles. Yeah. I mean, I've done good at places. As long as I've got somewhere to play from, short, then I can lean on my short game. And I think it's a little firmer that I can keep up. Yeah, well, you mentioned that U.S. Open at Aaron Hills, where Brooks Kappa ended up winning,
Starting point is 00:29:31 but you were the 54-hole leader. That's your only top 10 in a major so far. Do you think the U.S. Open is possibly the best major that suits you or Augusta National? You finished tied for 12th at last time? Yeah, I've done like a T-11 at the PGA. It was like T-12 at Augusta. I mean, Augusta sets up good, especially this year because it was firm.
Starting point is 00:29:54 It just depends on the golf course. You know, like, I've got no chance at Torrey Pines in January, February. But, like, during the U.S. Open in June, it's a totally different outfit. You know, like, I'm able to run it up. You know, getting a bunch of roll off the T. And it's all about course setup, man. Do you feel any different in majors than normal PJ tour events? Maybe nerves-wise?
Starting point is 00:30:16 You know, I feel like that, you know, I know Brooks caught all sorts of hell for what he said about majors are easier to win. I don't think they're easier to win, but I think they're easier to, like, have good finishes in. Why? Because everyone else just, like, someone is so, like, hyper, just, like, everybody's on the edge. And if you can just hang in there and just hang in there, it's like a two or three under part of a major just goes so far. Well, you got three, what, three top 20s this year? your best year in major championships is your what are you doing anything different or is that just experience i just think that i've figured out like all right like if i miss the green it's not a big deal you know and i've been leaning on my short game more and more working on my short game really
Starting point is 00:30:56 hard and uh i mean everybody misses greens at majors it's just hard to hit 14 greens a day at the british open or the u.s open it's you're going to have a couple days where you hit 7 8 9 10 greens and you got to figure out a way to to shoot even 100 200 do you do anything differently because we talk to other guys too and it's across the board like some guys go into some different routine leading up to majors trying to peek at the right time do you do you tweak your like practice schedule going into those or not i've tweaked my like my rest schedule this year to where i've tried not to play more than two weeks in a row which i would play seven or eight in a row without any problem in years past and i just i mean i'm 34 i'm not i'm not 24 anymore and i'm having to like
Starting point is 00:31:37 really manage like my rest like when i'm home i would usually practice every day and do all that now I'm taking, you know, I'll force myself to take three or four days off and then I'll start. And it seems like I'm starting to peak at the right time in the week. Because a lot of times I would show up and Tuesday, Wednesday, I'm striping it. And then like by Saturday, I'm like, can't find it. I feel like when you're 24, 25, you're so excited to be out there. You just want to be there at all times. And then you realize later on in your career, like, okay, I don't need to be out there.
Starting point is 00:32:05 I need to rest. I be ready to go come Thursday. Well, I end up, like, thinking about the golf swing and, like, where are my games at? I do like a lot more objective thinking like when I'm away from the game and I have time to like digest it all like all right why is this happening why is this shot happening you know why am I making bogey in this certain situation and I can like you know let it all just kind of come out and then and then try to make a plan and like all right well I'm going to do this and then commit to that plan and it seems to be working a little better what are the things you work on on your golf saying like if you've got an off week because your swing doesn't appear to have changed a whole lot from the time I knew you in junior golf to till now what what you're do you work on? Everything's so subtle, man. Like right now, I'm trying to release the club a little more consistently, and I do that by using the ground to push it out a little bit more. Like, I tend to get underneath, and I kind of hang on my back arm and kind of flip it at the end. So I'm trying to have like a, like a seamless pivot kind of. Yeah, but if you look at where the golf game
Starting point is 00:33:06 is, it does work. I mean, you absolutely strike it. But if you look at where the golf game's kind of gone with what Bryson's done. I mean, you're not the biggest guy in the world. You don't hit it short by any means. You get a lot out of it for being one of the littler guys. Does it frustrate you at all with what's going on where it's just let's just see how freaking far we can hit it? At times, yeah, but I've heard so many guys that hit it around the distance that I do complain and just whinge about how they have no chance that I've just made a conscious decision about two years ago where I like, well, I just, I refuse to believe that. Like I refuse to believe that how far I hit it is limiting me. And like I don't care what the stats say. I just I
Starting point is 00:33:46 refuse to give in to that. So you've won two times. You've put your best year ever in majors. If you were going to win multiple more times and contend or win a major championship, you had to pick one aspect of your game right now. Like this needs to get better. What would you say it is? I just think that if I can, the thing I've been struggling with, and I looked at like I've never been that great like approach to the green. Like my approach, a stroke scan approach to green's never been that great. And when I looked at it even further, it's like, wow, I'm not as good as I should be from 100 to 150 yards, which when you talk about distance, you talk about the set of things. It's like, well, it doesn't really matter how hard you swing it from 100 to 150. Like, I'm
Starting point is 00:34:25 unlimited in my capacity to be good in that spot. So I've tried to focus on that. And then I've tried to, like, I've always had a great short game. I've always had good hands around the green, but I never really felt like a specialist around the greens. And I've tried to, like, be more of a, like, a really, like, elite short game guy. Yeah. Just double down on that skill. And you drive it so straight and you do still get it out there plenty far. But, like, 150 to and 100, you're going to have a million of those.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Exactly. And you put good, too. Always have. Let me ask you this. I mean, you've been out here a very long time, been very successful. You've played with everyone. Is there still anyone you get paired with and you're out there and you're like, my God, that's impressive? Yeah, Rory. Rory's super impressive. Just the way his ball comes off and just the way that he swings at it, man. It's just like, I just think it's like poetry emotion. It's just so smooth and so free. And he just, and when he's driving it good, man, it's just like, oh my God. It looks just like, like, I watch it on TV. I'm like, dude, I'm going to do that tomorrow. That's how I'm just be like just like that. And then I get out there. I'm like, how does it happen? Just shoots off of there. I mean, yeah, I think he's just one of those guys. He probably can jump really high. He just got, I mean, just something in him that just. It just.
Starting point is 00:35:35 yeah it works yeah you got a little a little something you got some all right every broadcast you're on ever they call you a bulldog not because you went to georgia be like this guy's a bulldog this guy's a if you had to define what it means to be a bulldog what would you say i just think like i mean i've never been a big dude and but i mean i played football i mean i did all the sports and like i remember i had a coach tell me one time he's like look man like i can tell like that that you enjoy hitting like i always always liked hitting in football it never bother me because but Because you just, you have to remember that you're never going to be in control how big you are. But you can control how mean you are.
Starting point is 00:36:12 And like, if you're the meanest guy out there, you'll be fine. And I just remember, like, in all the sports I played and I pitched and, you know, I played defense and football, like, I always try to be the meanest guy there. They never use it for like a big guy either. Like you could play the exact same way, hit the exact same shots as Jason Cochrak. And I don't think they'd be able to, oh, Jason Cochrak's a bulldog. You know, just because it's always for like the smaller guys. Yeah, Bulldogs are little. What's that?
Starting point is 00:36:34 Bull dogs are little. Some of them, some of those things are big, uh-huh is a big, yeah, a big dog. But they're just gnawn at your ankles down there. I just think like, people always assume like,
Starting point is 00:36:44 oh, a big guy, he's never had to like be that mean. Like a little guy, like, you're like the nicest mean, dude. Should we get in a little E-9?
Starting point is 00:36:52 Well, I talk a little hunting with you. Please do. Another thing always gets brought up is you have it. You're really going to put a nickel in me now. Avid outdoorsman. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:36:59 give me, and I looked at your Instagram page, it looks like national geographic. It just animals everywhere. What kind of stuff do you like hunting the most? So I'm a bow hunter. Love to bow hunt. Last couple years, I've been in southern Colorado,
Starting point is 00:37:12 hunting these big elk. I've killed two big elk with my bow. Both of them at 30 yards. And then, you know, we do the whole deal, man. We pack in. We're there for a week. You know, I'm hunting one specific one. We hunt them for three or four days.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Stalking. Skinning him, quarter him, carry him up the mountain. And I got, I mean, I got 350 pounds of elk meat in my freezer. Damn. I mean, I love it. start to finish. I mean, so that's like a real hunt. Oh yeah. You stock the deer. Oh yeah. So the wind on the, so we're hunting like 12,000 feet. Oh. And so you've got all of these different wind and these thermals and stuff. And so, you know, a lot of times you'll see them or they're bugling late in, you know, it's their mating season.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Late in September. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They get after it, bud. You got to see that one time. You got to see that one time. It's special. So anyway, like you can't get, you can't ever let them catch your wind. So we're always moving around, listening to them and you know you finally and you got to get them within 40 yards to kill them right and so it's all just this chess game you know you get within a couple hundred yards wind switch has got a back out read redo and um you know we don't don't shoot immature ones we shoot these big old mature bulls and they're smart man and um it's hard to get around them it's hard to hunt and like I said we're at 12,000 feet so it's a it's a grind man we're doing like six miles of hunt we start at daylight
Starting point is 00:38:29 hunt four or five hours taking lunch break go back out but usually if you put one to bed like you know if we hunt one in the afternoon find one we want you put him to bed he's going to be close to there
Starting point is 00:38:41 the next morning so when I say we're hunting for three days like I'm on that bull for two days it's like going out to the bars dude it's a chess game you gotta hunt them down a bit drag them out of a night in a row drag them out kidding you don't drag them out don't say that
Starting point is 00:38:54 half of our subscribers are like PETA people now we just lost it out 99% male, I think we'll be okay. You know, so when I first started dating my wife, she was living in San Diego. And I go out there and I'm visiting with her. And all her friends are, you know, they're West Coast, you know, and God bless them. But I was so nervous to talk to them because they're like, oh, like, you know, you're from Georgia. What do you drive a big truck?
Starting point is 00:39:16 You listen to country music. Yep. Oh, do you like to hunt? I'm like, yeah, dude. So she's been talking about me a lot. I love it. I said, yeah, I love it. And I thought they were going to be like, oh, you monster.
Starting point is 00:39:26 They're like, oh my gosh, that's so cool. You know where all your meat comes from. I'm like, well, okay, thanks. Thanks for giving me that at least. That's like a real hunt, though. It's not like you drive up in a truck and shoot something. So you pack this big ass elk or deer out there. What do you do with the meat?
Starting point is 00:39:40 You're taking that home? So they've got processors out there. So we hang it in these big coolers. And then we take it to the processor and they cut it all up just like a cow and ship it to the house. What's your favorite thing to eat that you've killed? An elk tenderloin is about as good as it gets. Cooking on the grill. People say that stuff is really good.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Well, the only difference between wild meat and, like, a farm-race cow is there's no fat. So, like, these, you know, these pioneers that were heading west, you know, they were always craving fat because even they were eating all this wild game, they couldn't get enough fat. So you could actually have stores and stores of wild meat, but you'll die of starvation. Damn. No fat. You got to cook it with fat. You got to cook with butter.
Starting point is 00:40:19 You thought you heard a lot from Tim Tucker. I'm learning some shit right now, dude. I just got to learn how to shoot a bow or a gun. But no, I mean, I do it at home. I kill white tails. I kill turkeys at home, ducks. We got a bunch of pigs we kill. I kill it and I eat it.
Starting point is 00:40:31 You got some big turkeys on Instagram. We kill pretty turkeys. What's your most prized, like, hunt that you got, like that you ended up getting? I mean, the toughest one. Yeah, two years ago, just shooting, I shot this big elk, man. We hunted him for a long time. And the guy that's been taking me, he's right here on my shoulder, hunting with me. And we watched him come down the mountain, bugling.
Starting point is 00:40:53 You know, he's having to turn us. His antlers are so big. He's having to turn his head sideways to, like, get in between these areas. And he steps right now, just smoke. That poor house. Finally, he's like, the poor out. That little bastard got me finally. What's your favorite, Colt, of all your hunting?
Starting point is 00:41:09 Nothing. Yeah. My postmate, I had to hunt down my postmates the other day, went to the wrong house. I mean, you know, we eat wild meat at my house probably three or four nights a week. That's awesome. Yeah, that's real deal. Fish I've caught, turkeys. I mean, you got to do something a little different with all of them.
Starting point is 00:41:24 But it's all good for you, man. You think about these days, like, man, like some of this farming stuff, and it's just gross. You are authentic outdoorsman. Authentic, like the real deal. I like it start to finish, man. So, like, last week I'm home, I'm on my tractor. Like, I'm filling up feeders for the deer.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Like, we're starting to put out cameras. We're starting to figure out what we got. Like, I love doing all those things. I love to plant. I love mowing. I love getting land ready for us to hunt. I love scouting. I mean, I love all of it. Barner's got a big mower if you ever need the lawn. If you need the lawn mower.
Starting point is 00:42:02 He could cruise on it. I don't know, a big old mower. All right, let's get to this emergency nine. Okay, we asked this to everybody. I know you listened to this, but we've changed it recently. You can trade lives with anyone for one day, dead or alive, who's it going to be? Jeff Knox. That's a good answer. For those you don't know, Jeff Knox, Augusta National. Yeah, he lives a professional life of leisure. I watch him. He's like the amateur version of Fred Couples.
Starting point is 00:42:30 He's just the coolest dude. And he just shows up all over. There's like eight of it. That's a good analogy. He plays every week. Yeah, beats dudes. That's what he wants. He was telling me a story the other day about a rental car.
Starting point is 00:42:40 And he was like, oh, like someone needed to turn a rental car. He goes, oh, just leave it. Like wherever they were. They're like, you can't do that. He goes, that's what I do. No, dude, they'll find it. He's like, it's their car. If they want it, they better come get it.
Starting point is 00:42:50 They'll get it. We used to ask who would play you in a movie, and I think yours would be the easy. easiest ever you know it probably you've had to have heard it a million times I assume go for it Walberg over yeah back when I back when I had lettuce yeah when you had some flow yeah all right next one for me how long did it take you to be able to tell the difference between Brendan Todd and Chris Kirk very very short time it makes me so happy though that they get confused for each other the other one is Hudson and Harris
Starting point is 00:43:16 yes they always get confused with I'm like how I don't know I don't understand how you could confuse them oh I do it all I see my see I've been around them so much yeah I'm Since I was 12. Dude, I didn't. Like, I belong to this. It's either Chris Kirk or Brennan Todd just made tweet. I don't know which one. The one year at the Azalea, like, it was Halloween and Webb and Kirk switched.
Starting point is 00:43:33 And they thought, they thought Kirk won, but Webb won wearing all Georgia stuff in a Georgia bag. Yeah. I could distinguish him, but those are a little tough. Yeah, he got Hudson and Harris, too. It's like similar names, too. Tricky. All right. Next one.
Starting point is 00:43:48 I know you're a big hunter, but I heard recently you started playing some Madden NFL football. Oh, yeah. So it's a big deal. now on ESPN, like they interview all the players and they strive to be 99, they always complain about their grade. I want to know what you would give yourself as a rating on Madden. As a player? As a player. Oh, mid to high 60s, probably. Harris English said 51. He said he owes you. You can't even catch a run at 51. So to my defense, we used to play on an Xbox in college and I, he was mine. Harris English was mine on that game whenever I wanted him. And now since
Starting point is 00:44:24 You know, I've had children and I've had a family. And he's just put in hours after hours on a different console with a different... We've played college, NCAA. So he's madden, different console. And he's like, you know, he's married with no kids. He's got all this time on his hands. So he's got just hundreds of hours of experience. That's not a fair fight.
Starting point is 00:44:45 He said, Harmon's over there doing all these hot routes and audibles and checkdowns. Yeah, I'm more skilled, less experience. Okay. All right. That's not fair when you switch consoles. It's a whole different ballgame, all the buttons. Yeah. So if someone knows how to audible and someone knows how to like switch around defenses for, like, they're the better player.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Yeah. Like their ceiling, my ceiling is higher than Harris. You're like Peyton Manning. But his experience, me he's been doing it for years. The ceiling is the roof. He's like Jamarcus Russell. A lot of town. Just can't figure it out.
Starting point is 00:45:15 All right. Next one. This is a good one. All right. You led the UGA team in GPA for three years. Hey, right there. Thanks, ma'am. If you come into a final exam and you hadn't studied a lick, zero studying, you had to sit next to somebody on your team and copy off their scan.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Michael Green. Right. Who do you want the least, though? Hudson Swofford. There you go. Poor HUD. Hud getting dragged. Brian, why are you so mean to me?
Starting point is 00:45:40 I love it. HUD, you had no faith in HUD, get you through that? Well, if it was accounting class, it would be Harris English for sure. Accounting class changed Harris's career path. Or at least a school career path. Wasn't in his future. That one ruined him. All right, next one.
Starting point is 00:45:58 For the people out there that don't know, if they haven't seen your putter, it's bigger than my computer right here. So I want to know, have you ever had any cattle ranchers reach out to you and offer you top dollar for your putter to bring the cattle? No, but if anyone needs a shower head head on that putter is this big. I should understand how you go around the putting green. There's all these putters, and you're like, that's the one. Well, you know, they always, you know, most putters these days are made out of, you know, aluminum or that one's actually made out of money. it's a one of one dude but you're being so serious I know I'm listening really damn minted perfect money is what it's made out of perfect yeah
Starting point is 00:46:34 that thing's been around that thing's been around all right my last two are outdoors related right like I said a lot of Georgia guys out there claim to be big outdoors man okay hunting fishing all that stuff if all the Georgia tour players were trapped in the wilderness with only a knife who survived the longest okay all the me excluded you're out I'm out. I assume you'd pick yourself. So the next best, I guess you could just throw tour players in. Like, is you got like, no, I'm going to, you know what? I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to go back. I think, yeah, I think Hudson Swoffer probably lasts the longest. Oh, there he go. He's redeeming himself.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Yeah. He'd fail accounting, but. Book smart, no good. With a knife. He's a scary man with a knife. Okay, so he's authentic. Yeah. Just need to know who's authentic out there. I see the camel. We hunt together all the time. Okay, HUD. Shout out HUD. He's alive. All right. He's even. He's back in. Number seven. You played on 05 Walker Cup team, 09.
Starting point is 00:47:26 I'm going to break these down real quick. 05. You got yourself, Matt Evry, Jeff Overton, Anthony Kim, J.B. Holmes, Michael Putnam, Lee Williams, Kyle Rifers. 2009, Bud Colley, Ricky Fowler, Morgan Hoffman, your guy, Adam Mitchell, Cameron Tringalee, Peter Ewein, and Drew Weaver. We're going to have a beer Olympics between the two teams. Oh, wait. Who wins? I think that first squad.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Yeah. That's a landslice. That's a landslide. I just wanted to make sure we agreed on that. Yeah. Because I don't think, I mean, I think Ricky drank some beer now, but he didn't then. Morgan Hoffman doesn't drink a lot. Cameron Tringale didn't drink a lot.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Drew would have a beer with you. There's some dudes on 05. Was Brendan Gillo on that team? Yeah, he was on that team? I don't think he drank. Yeah, but then you had Anthony. Yeah, that's all you need. We went.
Starting point is 00:48:16 We went. It's a wrap. I love it. Yeah, we all agree. that one. It's a wrap. All right. Your life is on the line. You got to put an apple on your head, William Tell style, and one guy on the PGA tour, anyone has to shoot it off your head with a bow. Who you want? If my man, Kevin Kisner has been practicing, I'm giving the bow to Kevin. Who's the least of the guys that claim every other player on the PGA tour?
Starting point is 00:48:43 To be outdoors. Who do you think you would die the most from? Who do I think I would die the most from? Is Keith Mitchell outdoors? No, sir. Okay, good. No, sir. I'm pretty sure after Hudson hears this he would probably just shoot me right in the chest just to spite me missed it
Starting point is 00:48:58 oops missed the apple but no more harmon so everybody's better off Duff break bitch Oh that's fantastic All right last one Gotta go back to your college days here You and the Bulldogs
Starting point is 00:49:09 Traveling around in the team van You come across a yellow Xtera Wow Interesting What's the first thing that comes to your mind Wow Wow Yep
Starting point is 00:49:21 Yep So do you want the story? No, that's why we ask it. No, let's end it right there. So this was my very first college tournament ever. We're at the preview and we're in Bend, Oregon. And we've got two
Starting point is 00:49:36 Suburbans or whatever. So in the front car, you've got Ryan Hibble, Kevin Kisner, and one of Chris Kirk, Richard Scott, Brendan Todd, and Michael Green and whoever is in the second car that Hacker's driving.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Hibble, and there's no one for mile, we're in Bend, Oregon. There's not a human within a hundred miles of us, okay? Hacker pulls out and we pull out right behind him, and little did we know, we pulled out right in front of this yellow Xtera, like, I mean, cut him off bad, and Hibble had to go because we don't know where we're going, right? Or Hacker pulls out anyway. We cut this guy off, and this guy slowly. down he's flipping everybody off just making you know a fool out of himself so anyway he speeds
Starting point is 00:50:25 off never to be seen again and so we go like a mile down the road and then hibble's like oh i need like chapstick or something so he pulls into this gas station well the yellow exterra is sitting right there so now it looks like yeah that there's two car loads of me excluded decent side i mean ryan hibble's a football player he's a big man so we and as soon as the as soon as we pull into the lot this I'm not even going to call him a person because he built like a brick shit house called this guy jumps out with his neck is this neck you know like when a guy so bit his neck looks it makes his face look skinny his neck was twice the size of his head he jumps out hibble gets out of the car and he's this far from hibble and he is and hibble's like like
Starting point is 00:51:12 visibly like this is a pro chick kids gets out he runs over to kiz gets in his face and i I'm looking at this, I get out of the car and I'm 20 feet away and I'm like, oh my God. Like this guy's seen six guys get out of this car and he is not, he does not care. Does not care. How many of us are there? He is going to beat us all to shit, right? So I'm like, I see this all happening and I just like chuckled because I was like, I can't believe that this is happening.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Someone's going to get, who snaps his head and looks at me goes, what are you having that cock bite? Oh my God. Nothing, sir. We're so sorry. It is so great. Kill him. I texted three different players on your day, but they all text me to tell you to ask that story. Tell the cockfight story.
Starting point is 00:51:58 So, so cooler heads prevail, but he's still so mad. And, like, I have to go inside. And we're inside and lying together. And someone calls him Terry. So the whole week, it's like, oh, Terry's up on top of that hill, you know, carrying the lumberjack with his teeth. Old sea bass. So good. What are you looking at?
Starting point is 00:52:19 But he was. I mean, this guy comes out of his log cabin, you know, in his flannel. He's eight feet wide, chops his wood for the day. That is. I wouldn't have him packed as a yellow exterior guy. I know. That must have been his girl's car. No one makes fun of that guy.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Don't mess with Terry. Well, Brian Harmon, man. He's a huge UFC fan. I'm sure. Guaranteed. Dude, this has been so much fun for us. Thank you so much for us. Thank you so much for us.
Starting point is 00:52:43 We got it. This was great. All right. Well, that was our man Brian Harmon joining us on Golf Sub Park. We were out at Windack Country Club. By the way, special thanks for them for letting us come out there and film all these episodes. But Brian Harmon, what an awesome dude. Just, you know, like you said, we call him a little bulldog.
Starting point is 00:52:58 I mean, he did go to Georgia, but he's that guy. He's just gnawing at your feet. Just, he's not scared of the moment. And one of the few guys that really can tell us something about Anthony Kim. Yeah. I felt like we were going to go down on Anthony Kim rabbit hole for about 30 minutes. But yeah, he's one of the few guys that, kind of keeps tabs with him, played multiple matches with him at the Walker Cup down there.
Starting point is 00:53:21 And, I mean, we got to find him. We've tried, a bunch of people have tried. Hopefully we can get him at some point. But, dude, Harmon, I think, is a guy. You don't see him interviewed a ton on the PJ tour. He hangs around. He's kind of an under-the-radar guy. But, man, he would be a fun guy to grab a beer with, hang out afterwards.
Starting point is 00:53:37 He is an awesome, awesome guy. And I love the comment when he's like, you're talking about his putter. He's like, yeah, that thing's made of money. And he ain't joking. That thing's been around a long time, bro. and it has made him a shit pot of money. He gets it done with that club every single year. And, like, Cole, like, you play junior golf with him.
Starting point is 00:53:52 I did two, things like that. I haven't noticed much in his golf game change in the last, I mean, what do you want to call it? 15 years. Swing looks the same. Putter looks the same. I mean, all of it. And it's just, he's one of the guys done tinker a whole lot. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Starting point is 00:54:04 And that's hard to do. Yeah, not the flashiest guy. I mean, he's five-foot-seven, doesn't smash it. But for a little guy, he hits it a lot longer than I think you would first, you know, your first impression would be. He can absolutely move it out there. Had a hell of a career on the PJ tour. Two wins, wins the John Deere, wins the Wells Fargo, beating Dustin Johnson and Pat Perez with a 30-footer on the last to get a job done.
Starting point is 00:54:25 And I thought that story was incredible. What do we do now? Pat, we go home, Dustin. You pack your shit and you go home. That's called losing. That's called losing by one. What a couple of dudes to make that butt against, too, by the way. Like, Pat, you can hold that over his head for forever.
Starting point is 00:54:40 He can handle it. And then DJ, too. That's a big moment. two dubs and I feel like he's just going to be around for a while. He's not a guy I feel like with age. He's still young too, by the way, but he doesn't rely on distance or power or any of that. He can play that golf game the way that style of golf he plays right now for a lot of years to come. Yeah, it's going to be cool. He's one of those guys going to try to fight for one of those last spots on the Ryder Cup team. I know that's very, very important to him to make one of these team
Starting point is 00:55:04 events. He loves that atmosphere. I mean, he played two Walker Cups. Probably should have played three if we're going to be totally honest. Should have made that 2007. squad, but still, no matter what happens, he's had a hell of a career. It's been really, really fun to watch. And that poor elk that he stalked for two or three days, I mean, can you imagine, like, you go up to elk heaven and how'd you go? Well, I got shot by the little five seven Brian Hartman. There's some little shit behind a tree over there that got me. And he's, he showed me the pictures afterwards of this, like, big prize one he got or whatever. And he's, like, lugging off its whole head on a backpack. And it's no bullshit. It's almost as
Starting point is 00:55:38 big as Harmon is. Like, I was like, how did you get that out of there? But I mean, I don't know much about hunting. I'm not a big hunter or whatever, but at least it's not like kill for sport, go out there, leave it or do whatever. Like, he uses all of it and it sounds like he puts it to good use, but the dude loves it. He's not like a fake outdoorsman by any means. He's, he's locked and loaded at all times. Yeah, I would have to believe Brian Harmon gained quite a few more fans after this interview with us here on golf subpar. All right, Sleas, here we go. Fandle, number one sports book. Can't find any better place ever. And we start last week. We're one for one. We touted Abe answer, 41 to one to win. I saw Fanduel tweeted out that some guy bet
Starting point is 00:56:18 four grand on A Banser to win. Obviously, he listened to Golf Subpar. There's no way he was going to bet with ours. Yeah, no question. That's the only way to get your picks, but. All right, well, let's get to it. We got the Wyndham Championship, the final regular season event before the FedEx Cup playoff. Pretty interesting field. You know, got obviously Web Simpsons there. He wins, seems like, every year, or at least competes for it every single year. but guys like Ricky Fowler, Adam Scott, trying to get in there and get to the FedEx Cup playoffs. So it's going to be very, very interesting. Sedgefield, an old school golf course, you know, not very long, crazy, sloppy greens.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Normally some pretty deep Bermuda Ruff, and the guys can go low here. So let's get to it. Webb Simpson is your favorite at 12 to 1. Adecki Matsuyama is just going to keep on playing, I guess, continue this role. He's going off at 15 to 1. And Louis Oostezen is going off at 20 to 1. Those are your top three favorites. Man, Sleys, this is a tough one.
Starting point is 00:57:15 I mean, I think obviously Webb Simpson is probably a very, very, very good pick, considering his track record around here. But there's some guys with some odds that I find very, very interesting. Like JT. Post him, here's a guy who went bogey free for the entire tournament when he won in 2019. He's going off at 70 to 1. A guy that I'm looking at, two guys actually that I really like to play very similar games, in my opinion. Joel Damon coming off a tie for seven of the barracuda is going off at 90 to 1
Starting point is 00:57:42 and ches reevee who has found some recent form as of late is also 90 to 1 I love that value right there chaz not the longest guy in the world but gonna hit it dead straight and iron it really well it's a great golf course for him and I'll give you another guy that I like strictly based on his iron play one of the best in terms of strokes gained approach in the last basically since we came back from COVID but russell henley is going off at 32 to one he seems to play great down there in the southeast he's comfortable
Starting point is 00:58:07 on those bermuda greens when he gets that putt go and he can fill it up but tida green especially from the fairways if he puts it in the fairways he irons it awesome so 32 to 1 i think is a real good value on russell henley too all right well the time has come who you're gonna go with them all right you want me to launch the pick right now team slees final regular season event of the year we're going 50 to 1 range here colt i'm saving dj and rory for the two playoff events but i'm going a guy who needs a week bro our guy rickie fowler going at 50 to 1 so i mean he's sure you showing a little bit of form recently. There's the top 10 at the PGA, which was a big week for him,
Starting point is 00:58:43 finished 11th at the Memorial, had a good final round over there at the Open Championship. But Colt, we were talking about this before, man. Like, I'm shocked. He's now 1 30th in the FedEx Cup standings. I'm shocked that he elected not to play Barracuda last week. It's like, I know you don't typically play that event. I know you're a massive guy and all that. It's a secondary event, maybe a little blow to the ego. But first things first, let's make sure we finish top 125. We can regroup a little later in the year. And he bypassed that and now he's playing this week and now he needs a week. I think he dropped five spots this past week. So he's got to go around there and play some golf, dude. And it's, it's, you know, be shocking to see Ricky Fowler,
Starting point is 00:59:17 even after all of this to not make his way into the FedEx Cup playoffs. I totally agree with you. I was shocked he didn't tee it up last week. His caddy, Joe Scoburn was actually filling in for Patrick Cantlay last week. But I'm going to go a little bit of a surprise. I've already talked about him. I'm going to go with some value here. And I, I mean, first off, it's a lot of value. 90 to one. But this guy's starting to show some form. He's really, really getting back to the consistent Ches Revy we know. In Sechfield, I mean, some of the narrowest fairways on the PGA tour, he's one of the best iron players on the planet. If the putter warms up, Chez Revy's my guy this week.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Yeah, we might go in a little bit of a dark horse, but I like Chez a lot around Sechfield country. Yeah, you're getting him at 90 to one. I mean, here's the guy. He could go off in whole three irons next week. When he gets going and he starts feeling it, I mean, nobody hits more lasers than Chez Revy. and it's been a slow year for him, but like you said, some recent form. So Chester, also great course set up for him. I ain't never mad at Ches, especially when you get a golf course like this.
Starting point is 01:00:16 So, yeah, not a bad pick. All right, well, here we go. Can't wait. See if we can make it two for two here off with Fandul. So Lisa, that's going to do it for us this week. Next week, another great episode. The Queen of CBS, as you call her the face. Jim Nance is the voice of CBS.
Starting point is 01:00:32 She's the face of CBS. Amanda Ballionis joins us, and you're not going to want to miss it. She's a dog lover like many of us in the world, and she breaks down which dogs we would be. It's going to be phantom. A little bit of a dispute over what she picked for me. But I honestly, after thinking about it, I was like, all right, I'll take it. I'll take it. Well, thank you to everybody for listening.
Starting point is 01:00:53 Hope everyone has a great week. And we'll talk to you on next week's golf so far.

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