Subpar - Bryce Molder Interview: Being known as one of the greatest collegiate golfers, his first Tour win being overshadowed by a hot dog

Episode Date: June 21, 2021

On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar, PGA Tour winner Bryce Molder joins former PGA Tour pro Colt Knost and jicky jack legend Drew Stoltz for an exclusive, in-studio, interview. The four-time first-team All-American golfer talks transitioning from being an elite collegiate golfer to the Tour, questioning President Bill Clinton's on course integrity, and how his first Tour win was over staged by a fan throwing a hot dog at Tiger Woods.

Hello world. Welcome to another week of golf subpar and what a week it was for our guy, John Rom, at the 121st U.S. Open. Tip of the cap to you. You picked the winner. For the record, I didn't disagree with you at all by this. I loved John Rom going into the week. He put on an absolute clinic yesterday. I mean, those two putts he made on 17 and 18, unbelievable. I mean, I was like, I had goosebumps when those things were going in. I was going nuts on the couch. It was wild. I mean, we start off the day. You got 12 guys, I guess, at the top with a realistic chance to win it within four shots. And through the front nine, they were all, it was all in place still. Going in the back, there was a ton of guys still left out there. And then you fast forward a few holes on the back nine. And they just started dropping, like, I mean, everyone was imploding. You had some of the, you know, you mentioned John's putts. Those are some of the best shots you'll ever see hit in a major championship. You saw some of the worst shots you'll ever see hit in a major championship. You got a half-naked streaker dressed like a, a woman in a pride outfit, just decides to practice a short game there on the 13th.

Fairway, there's a lot of shit going on at that golf tournament. It just went from, wow, there's a lot of guys that could win to all of a sudden, like, okay, it's either Rom or Louis right now. Yeah,

it was, so I honestly, when all the carnage was happening, when Harris English posted 300, I was like, he could sneaky get in a playoff right here. Possibly. You need the,

the stars to align, but it was there. It was that three under the way guys were going. I mean, then it just became Rom and, and Louis. And I mean,

it was just, I don't, I don't ever remember seeing so many top name guys just all fall down at the same time. Like, it was just, I mean, and it's a testament. There's a lot of them.

The moment is obviously huge. The golf course is extremely hard, which I never realized how many people hate on Torrey Pines. And I don't get it because it's always a huge name wins around there, it seems like. It's always an exciting finish, whether it's the Farmers or the U.S. Open.

Like, I always thought it's a great golf course. I saw a lot of that on Twitter, too, like bagging on Tori Pines. I was like, what do you, like, the main knock I saw was, it doesn't, there's no strategy involved. It's just guys hitting driver after driver after driver.

I was like, okay, well, they're going to do that anyway. Like, what do you want to do? Put a lake out there at 290 and force everyone. If you have something in the way or a dog leg or something like that, and everyone's forced to play from the same position, then people complain because like, oh, this doesn't leave any options for anyone. They all have to play from the same spot. But then you got Tori where you can hit,

I mean, guys were playing from all over the place. And as I was like, what exactly kind of golf course can you design? You're not going to get driver out of these guys hands more or less unless it's impossible. I thought you wanted to see the guy's sin driver everywhere, because that's what's exciting. And at Torrey Pines, if you actually hit fairways, you get rewarded. Yeah. I mean, we saw him. I mean, Bryce and DeShambo had an absolute disaster on the back nine, but one of the shots that sticks out to me is when he blew it way right on 12 into that crazy thick lie and was able to muscle it up on the green.

I'm like, Jesus, this guy is just a freak of nature. Like, I don't know if there's five guys on the PJ Tour that could have got that ball out of the rough. I thought it was a beautiful setup. I mean, six under par winning with hardly no wind for the entire week. like seven, eight miles an hour, maybe. You had the marine layer, which made that the greens maybe a little softer than they would have liked. But you're looking at six under par, winning this championship and the best player in the world won? I mean, what else do you want?

Look at the last two years of the U.S. Open spin at Torrey Pines. How did those work out? You know, 08, Tiger, Rocco, that was a pretty good one. And then how about this? I mean, those are two legendary classic finishes on the PGA tour. It was, I don't know what all that the hate is about that place, but I thought it was really good. The only thing that was, and this is just what you're going to get at Tori with all the different grasses that grow in that rough. I went out and I walked around the entire course one day.

It was blown away. You heard a lot about a lot of talk on it going into the week, but it was like you could have a guy that hits it both missed the fairway. I'll give you an example. 13, the par five. I walked around, was watching Windham for a few holes group in front of him. Two guys miss it in the right fairway. Just a couple yards in, right? Like lands in the first cut bounces in. Two balls within five, I would say maybe even less four yards of each other. One guy, I bet it was a nine iron maybe, hack out, barely could get it over the bunkers, rolled it to the of the hill for his lap, had a long third in. The guy two, three yards away from him, pulled out three wood and blew it down there by the

bon. I mean, it was so spotty. I mean, you'd walk around. I'd look at a piece of grass or spot of grass there and say, I don't think I could even advance it more than 100 yards. And then two feet over, I'd be like, I get a driver off the deck right there. Okay. It was spotty.

That's a little aggressive. But man, it was an awesome week. So much fun to watch. And, you know, I think a lot of people, including myself, bag on the USGA a lot. But if you look back to the last six U.S. opens, we've had Brooks Kevka, win twice, John Rom, Dustin Johnson, Gary Woodland, Bryson DeShambeau. The champions are working out all right, even though I hate all over how they sometimes set their golf courses up. They're getting a very good champion every year at the U.S. Open. Yeah, they're getting the best champions. I mean,

there's no sleepers at the top. These guys are all coming in there. And then you had Richard Bland coming into the weekend, which was kind of like a fairy tale story. I don't think a lot of people expect him to hang around, but that was a cool story. McKenzie Hughes coming into the final round, too trying to, you know, put Canada on his back. He had a lot to deal with. But I mean, dude, it's getting you the best champions in the world and the way, the way Rom did it. I mean, and a pissed off spaniard is a dangerous spaniard. It was just everyone wanted to pick John Rom. Everyone wanted to, you know, the thing that happened at the memorial, going back to Tories, side of his first win, all the special stuff there for him. And it's like,

those narratives just rarely work out to where that guy that everyone wants to win and his picking to win, it rarely happens. And it sure as hell rarely happens with two unbelievable, put you know back to back you know six 17 was breaking six seven feet that was a put you just don't make and then 18 to take his medicine like that after really a bad balance on that second shot i mean if that ball just takes one extra hop and kind of hit trickles into the upslope there that's a no problem for him but it got just enough on the downslope that he had to play it out there and god damn if he didn't make it well it made i think it made the moment even more special because he was able to give the huge tiger-like fist pump um when he when he made that put but man i it just so

happy for him. I mean, this guy, he works as hard as anybody. You know, he's a good friend of ours, but only got to be on our show twice. Only two-time guests at this point. But, you know, this could really do something scary for his career. I mean, getting this first major out of the way, you know, he's, I would say he hasn't performed the way he wanted to in majors up to this point. And now he gets a win, a huge win at the U.S. Open. Look out because, I mean, he is going to be a problem in these things every single time,

I feel like. Just look at the last two times out, and he had to take a little break in between the two. You know, he would have won Memorial by a lot, most likely, playing probably the best golf he said he's ever played in his career. Then he has to take some time off. He comes back and does this. I think the first major is always the toughest one, especially if you started the conversation,

who's the best player without a major right now? John Rom would have been right at the top of that thing. I mean, every single person. So you hear that, and the longer you go without getting it, the more and more you have to answer it. Now it'll probably be Zander maybe taking over that title. But to get that first one off, it's just, now I just, you don't have to answer those anymore.

You've got it. no matter what you've got it. And I just think it makes the rest of them easier going in every single, you know, going in each week. How about these two stats? You mentioned Zander Shafley, but John Rom, I believe, has played 10s, 109 PGA tour events. He has 51 top 10s. Like it's sickening how consistent he is. Zander Shafley has finished top 10 in his first five U.S. opens.

Only other player to do that, Bobby Jones. Neither are the guys ever play bad, ever play. You're more shocked when you see them beyond the second page of the leaderboard than you are when you see them, you know, at the top. It's just they're the one of the hands. handful of guys that just seems to rarely ever play bad golf. And that's hard to do. When you play that many weeks out there, you're just going to have weeks where you don't have it or you're not invested or whatever.

Those guys seem to not have it. Zander had a lot of people pulling for him out there. I mean, when I was out there, that Phil, Zander, Max group had probably 20% of the entire, you know, crowd watching them. He's the guy that's, you know, he's a popular pick every single time he'll get his. But it's just that first one is so hard, man. There's so many good guys trying to get them. I mean, there's only four of them a year.

Damn. We got to talk about Brooks Kepka, though, because it is unbelievable what this guy does. I mean, he plays awful in South Carolina the week before, Congri. Come to the U.S. Open, you know, people are like, okay, is he healthy? Is his game good? I don't know. He's the most difficult person to read I've ever seen on the PGA tour. Like, here he is.

He can hardly squat down, which it's getting better, it looks like. But then the bell goes off in a major championship, and boom, there he is. I really was surprised with the struggle he had yesterday coming in because I thought he was going to get in there. I thought he was going to post four or five under and just give everybody something to look at. But it is so impressive how he rises to the moment at these major championships.

When he first came out and said, I don't really care about other golf tournaments. All I won is major championships. I was kind of like, all right, do I believe that? Or is that just something that a guy that's happened to play well in a bunch of major championships says as an excuse for not playing as well during regular tour events, right? And when he first said it, I was like, come on, dude.

Like, you know, that's not sure. You care. Everyone wants to win everything type of deal. And then now the more that it happens, the more I'm like, this actually is true. He has found a way to just be better and be at his best. Every single time there's a major championship. And I actually buy into it now. I'm like, because there's no way you can just go concrete, not care, no nothing.

Show up this week, you know, contend again. Then this, he's going to play this next week. And I'm like, I don't know that he gives a shit about being out there. But he just has the ability to do it. Like, no one I've ever really. seen in golf. It's wild. I think in the last four U.S. opens he's played. Obviously, he won two of him. He's been beaten by four people total. Yeah. It's something weird like that. And he didn't play in one of them. Yeah. I mean, it's, he just has whatever it is. I mean, everyone talks about

trying to peak for the majors. He actually does it. And he actually has it figured out. And I don't know how the hell he does it. But it's pretty damn impressive. Yeah. But couldn't be happier for our guy John Rom. Getting that first major major championship. Awesome. So happy for him. Can't wait to drink out of that trophy. We're going to have a few. We're going to slam out of that thing. And we're going to erase Gary. Woodland's name as I always do and I have the U.S. Open trophy in my hand. But we've been talking a lot about some good golf. Let's get

some bad golf. Our guest this week, Bryce, Bruce Mulder. Bryce, that wasn't me, Doc. Just kidding. One of my favorite guys that I ever got paired with on the PGA tour, Bryce Molder, absolute stud in college. I mean, four-time first team, All-American. One on the PGA tour,

recently stepped away from the game in one of the driest sense of humors you'll ever come across. Oh, well, just like the sneaky funny guy, not the loud guy on the range, anything. of those guys you got to listen to. I love playing golf with Bryce Mulder. Actually, he was a guy I looked up to, like, as a young kid. We grew up in the same town in Arkansas as a kid, and he was the guy doing it. He wrote him a fan letter. I wrote him a letter, which we'll talk about in the interview, that maybe the only letter, the last actual real letter that I've written, but he's a stud, you mentioned

legitimately in the conversation for the best collegiate player of all time. And a unique story because a lot of people play golf until golf kind of kicks them out and says, nope, you're not good enough to be out here anymore. And he's a guy that just said, you know what, I can keep doing this. but I don't really want to, which is, I mean, not a lot of guys do that. And he's happier now, I think, than he's ever been. But it's a cool story. Yeah. So I was up at Pine Canyon recently where he lives, and we were playing.

It was myself, Jamie Stoitts, Scott, Harrington, Larrington, and Nate Lashley. And he comes out, Bruce does with his dog, and he's talking trash as he does. And as he's leaving, he goes, all right, hope you all play like shit, except for you, Nate, you're nice. See you later. He just walks away. I'm like, that's Bryce right there is. That's the guy. That's the guy.

But you can't not like him. It's all dry all the time. And he's just good dude to be, just good energy to be around. All right. Well, let's get to it. Here's Bryce Mulder on Golf Subpar. Before we get to our man, Bryce Mulder, I want to tell you about Taylor Made in this awesome new golf ball tour response. Tour response.

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who has received a fan letter from one of the hosts here at subpar. Well, it wasn't me. Bryce Molder in the building. It wasn't you? Yeah. I definitely didn't send Bryce a letter. What did this letter contain? I sent Bryce a letter, dude.

Do you want to tell about it? Well, yeah. So we grew up, well, grew up in the same hometown. We lived in the same hometown. when we were kids, you did for a little while. So like weird Arkansas kind of stuff, right? That's well said. Right.

You played baseball with my cousin. Your dad was my uncle's boss. Like, but, you know, and I didn't know you well because you were quite a bit younger, but apparently I was somewhat of, you know, an idol. A deal. I thought you were going to say, because you're not very good. A deal. So I didn't know who you were.

Well, I didn't know that he was. I think I was in first grade, by the way, or second at the time. But I moved to Colorado. Like I said, we have all these family connections. Bryce is the guy. And I just getting into golf, I think I just finished my sixth grade year going into seven, and you just come off this massive freshman year or whatever.

My mom's like, oh, remember Bryce from Conway? Like, he's really good at golf. And I read this, like, golf week article, and I wrote you a fan letter and asked you to sign some stuff and send it back. And sure enough, guess what this gentleman did? Signed it. Send me a sleeve of Georgia Tech golf balls and a hat signed by it,

which probably is some sort of violation. So later, much later, when he was now a member of Whisperock, asked for a signature and said it was. for like your nephew or something yeah that was last week i just wanted it from my mantle yeah that's incredible you still have the letter that would actually be great there's no chance i have the letter yeah i don't have any of your i had somebody taken care of that for you i never saw it i don't have any of your sign shit you had people in college taking care of your honor after the chelacking at the at the father's line i threw it all into the into the weeds okay enough about you let's talk about

Bryce Molder. Like you said, PJ Tour winner, four-time, first team All-American, which is incredible. Let's go to the beginning. You know, when you were a young fellow growing up in Arkansas, was it all golf? Because I've heard from some sources. You got a pretty sweet jump shot. So I played just about every sport where you could like kind of choose to not get hurt, right? So everything but football, right? So yeah, basketball, I just kind of floated around the three-point line, played a little tennis, played a lot of soccer, played baseball until it kind of got in the way of golf. And then kind of by 14, 15, I kind of shut everything else down. And it's, you know, everybody's like, well, how do you make that choice?

And you're like, well, beating people is more fun than losing. And everybody else is getting bigger and faster. And I'm not. And so golf was it. And so then, you know, kind of 13, 14, 15, focus in on golf. And off we go. Off you go. And off you go to Georgia Tech.

How big of a junior recruit were you? Because he went to Georgia Tech was like the school at the time. Were you winning everything? So it was Charles Howell, and then it was Boyd, Summer Hays, and I that kind of jockeyed when we were 17 for kind of the second spot. Nobody was better than Charles. He beat everybody. So, but I was, you know, I went to Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Arkansas, and Georgia Tech were the schools I visited. So chose Georgia Tech.

I knew a couple guys that signed. And then the coach at the time was recruiting me as the Oklahoma State assistant for whatever reason. I just wanted to get out of a small town, go to a big city, and, you know, attempt to grow up a little bit. Georgia Tech, here we come. Yeah, yeah, it was, no, it turned out to be such a good choice because it did. It, like, forced me.

Well, no, I also, I was interested in the academics. I knew I was going to do something later. I was stupid enough to think I was going to go in and get a civil engineering degree and build golf courses. And literally the dean of engineering, at the time was kind of a family friend. I had a cousin that went there. And he's like, you realize that you pay a civil engineer, go, you know, to do the work for you. You go, be really good at golf. Otherwise, you're going to be in school here for like seven years.

The average student's there for five years. I'd still be there after seeing like some of the curriculum. So I went the business management route, which is what you do as an athlete at Georgia Tech, and that was easily the best choice. I saw some of the, I dated a couple girls that were in engineering. and it was just after like the first semester it was just yeah was one of those girls the onion that's great that's great that's so great that's so great i saw an opportunity so i just slid right in i didn't expect it so early so i know who you've been talking to and i did i dated a girl for a little while and i mean she's just the sweetest i'm sure she still is just the sweetest most like wholesome girl and she she lived in Vidalia Georgia.

So she got nicknamed by my team, The Onion, and they like to pick on her because she was like literally the sweetest thing ever. But yeah, so those were. Why the onion though? Vidalia onions aren't sweet. No, Vidalia onion. That's like a, that's all it is. Like you drive, that's in that part of the world, if you mentioned Vidal, you're like,

oh, onions, yeah. I thought there was like you had to peel back the layers or. No, no, no. that's literally it. It's like the world famous like Home of the Onion. Yeah. So they call her the onion. Oh, we got that out of the way. I wonder what she's up to these guys.

Probably thinking about the day she let Bryce Mueller slip through her fingers. I'm guessing that's not the case. But yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, let's talk a little more about college because, I mean, you had one of the most. Like everyone that you talk to, like all your friends, they'll be like, he's the greatest college player

that a lot of people don't honestly talk about. I mean, your four-time first team All-American is unbelievable. I think one of only four? I won a four. Nobody was better than Phil. Like, statistically, like, Phil, he won like 20-something times, won three NCAA championships, was a four-time, you know, All-American.

And then after that, I mean, I don't know. I had, I was good in college. I played a lot of good golf in college, and I wish I could have carried that a little bit through. But it was, college was fun. It was a fun time. I mean, anytime winning. Yeah. and beating people and knowing that if you step out there and you play well,

that you feel like there's nobody that can beat you. People beard you. It's weird. It's very strange. Right? No, I remember sitting in an airport and Camilla Vajagas was, he was talking to. He was like, man, do you realize how intimidating it was? He was a freshman.

I was a senior to see your name on the board because he won regionals, I think, my senior year. And I finished second. And he goes, do you really ask, like how intimidating that was. I'm like, what are you talking about? I goes, dude, like, you don't, like, and I never would have seen it or thought of it that way. But I, but I, like, I remember playing. I remember thinking I'm going to run out of holes. Otherwise, I'd catch them.

Like, I had that much, you know, that much confidence, which is pretty fun. When you're beating everyone at college like you were, did you have a rival, like one guy, you wanted to beat more than anyone else? Yeah. I mean, so my. My rival was Luke Donald. So second year in college, I was leading like in the points. We go to Hazeltine for NCAAs.

We all play so bad. We missed the cut by a million. We were ranked number one and missed the cut by. We finished like 28th out of 30 teams, like just awful. And the only person that could catch me was Luke and he wins. And then something happened later, like my senior year, I was preseason player of the year and his, something weird happened with our coaches,

or athletic directors, his athletic director, like, wrote a letter to golf week. Like, there was some weird thing. And then I saw him that week at the preview and played with him and won. And so it was kind of great to kind of do that. But then I'd say he probably, I never played him at Walker Cup, but I'd say he probably got the best of me professionally. But that was probably my rival out of my, you know, my own team. But Kuchina, yeah, yeah.

So I was going to say, you had the wonderful Matt Kucher. So, yeah, I mean, it's, so Kuch was a year older. So he was, yeah, so he was a sophomore when I came in and he just won the US amateur. So it was like perfect, like now looking back on it, for him to have like all the attention that played really well. And for me to just kind of fly into the radar, I mean, was kind of perfect for me. But it was, it created this perfect like environment for both of us to try to beat one another while we, we want both of us to play well,

but we knew we kept track of each other. I know he kept track of me because he'd remind me a few times and I kept track of him, which was good. I mean, there's nothing better than even like qualifying knowing that if you wouldn't qualifying,

like you're beating the best, you know, best players. I was going to say, tell us a little bit about Cooch because everyone thinks of Cooch is just this smiling, happy, nice fella. So great. Give us a little insight to your boy, Matt Coochia. So, I will say,

he wishes like no ill will on anyone which is amazing because I couldn't say that about myself I'd like to say that about myself but it's you know he he but yeah I've seen him go ballistic a couple times and it's so fun because you've seen especially back then he was like the you know the wonder kid the smile oh shucks

and I remember we were in a practice round somewhere and it was just he was just going nuts because he was playing bad and we were beating him out of money and you know we'd knew him well enough to be like, hey, you know, Matt, where's that beautiful smile? Like, what is this attitude, you know? And I remember his caddy coming up to me after around at Harbor Town and going, I need to tell somebody this. I need to tell somebody.

And Cooch just came off of, I think, playing with Tiger right after like all the mess that Tiger kind of got in at the Masters, played with them for two days, got in contention. played pretty well. And so, like, stress, and he had family with them and all this kind of stuff. And I guess he played bad. And he was playing bad at Harboretown. And he went off, like, kind of in the woods behind, I remember him telling the story, like, behind 15 Farroway.

And every time I see that Farrowy, I think of this, he goes, because, yeah, Matt, like, kind of went around the corner. And he just started wailing on some palm trees. He goes, it sounds like he was, like, wrestling with a buffalo or something in there. And so I guess, like, Cooch came out, and he was like, I've been needing to do that for, like five days, you know, but like, but he's, you know, he's smart enough that, of course, like the camera would never get that or whatever, but, uh, no, he likes to have some, some fun and he likes to win. So when he doesn't win, he's pissed, but there's never like a,

um, like, I hate that guy or whatever. It's, it's, it's actually with, with, uh, with, with, uh, with good intentions. And he's like a funny dude. I feel like y'all, like, I don't know, cooch, but you have a very dry, kind of witty sense of humor. I feel like from the, some of the lines I've heard from him from other people, like he's got that same kind of, no, it's good. He's, so, I bet y'all had some battles. So what's funny about Matt, is he, his humor is just to make himself laugh. Like, most people, it's to try to make other people. Like, but he will literally, he'll be, you'll be sitting at dinner and he'll try to say the

thing that makes you the most awkward, like, or make you just so uncomfortable just to see how it plays out. It's like, it's like, it just kind of sets fire to something to just kind of see what's going to happen. He just kind of sits back and laughs. And it's actually great. Like, how great would it be to go through life where you're like, I don't really, like, I'm going to do something that I think's funny.

But he's got a good sense of humor. And so we definitely had some fun. And we've had some fun since college. Yeah, sneaky good trash talker. But I got to ask you about the putter that he used to win the U.S. Amateur. That's right. Because apparently he let you borrow it.

And he said he's still kind of, he told me, he's still looking for it. He's asked for it like a couple times. So no kidding. I've got the putter. It's the ugliest ping cushion. it's so beat to hell. Like, in part of it's because when, like, with that putter, I wouldn't do it with a Scotty Cameron.

It's so ugly. Like, I would mistreat it if it wasn't treating me very well. Like, you know, drag it to the next hole or whatever. So the things just beat to hell. I mean, so he putted with it, I think the whole freshman year, and then he won the Amber with it. Low Ammer in the Masters, low Ammer in the U.S. Open,

played with it somewhere another year or so, and then he put it on the rack in his room. or just had it in his room, and I took it, and he let me, I didn't take it, but I started putting with it, and I put it with it for like eight years. So I think we were both, it's weird. I think we were both player of the year in college with it.

I know we were both low amateur in the US OPEB with. I think we both played in a Walker Cup with it. We both, like, won in college, whatever with it. But so that, that putters made some, made a little bit of a little bit of history. Tiger, Scotty Cameron, Nicholas's, whatever that thing was. Yeah, it's right there. Bryce Molder and Matt Cooch's big. You still got it?

Yeah. Yeah, I still got it. Why don't you slide that big gun? Yeah, yeah. See how bad he wants it? Every once in a while, I'll take out. It's still got this like weird gauze tape that I used to put on. I can't even find it anymore.

But it's like it's been in the, you know, it's been in the Arizona garage for so many years that you pick it up and there's like stuff all over your hands. But it's, and it's, I mean, I'm telling you it's beat to hell. But it's, and it's the ugliest thing. I don't know how, I don't know how either. One of us because we both had it like hands low and way forward. So it had seven degrees loft on it. But the toe had to have like been way up in the air when we both putt it with it, which makes no sense.

But it had to have been. But made some pots. A lot of puts. You could put with a sledge. I think you could figure out a way. That's about what this thing is. If there's one thing you could figure out, it's how to put. All right.

Well, then you launch into your professional career. Coming out, you're the guy. First ever professional event as a pro. You finished third in Reno. At that point, Are you like, hey, this is going to be exactly like during the attack? I'm just going to start beating heads. So, yeah.

Like, I remember being interviewed a term pro and that week. And I remember being interviewed. And they're like, so what are your plans? What do you expect? And I remember talking about winning. Like, I don't know. If I play well, it was never like, I expect to win. I'm better than everybody.

It was just like, if I play well, I expect to have a chance to win. And I almost feel like talking about it so much. that week, like forced me into that just that mindset. I played really good on Friday, and then Saturday went kind of crazy on the back nine and made a bunch of pots and I was, you know, final group first time out, finished third. And it's kind of like, well, I mean, this just isn't that hard. And then I missed the cut the next week and I think I suck. I've never never missed a cut in my life for, you know, whether it was US AM or, you know, you don't have many, many cuts. I think the only thing I missed was like a U.S.

or something, which means you finish like 10th out of 80 people instead of fourth. But like it was so weird. It was like dealing with rejection for the first time. And then I got to face a lot of it. But it's it's tough when you all of a sudden, and I say that now like watching guys play that haven't really struggled. I'm like, well just we'll wait and see, you know, because until somebody struggles and you know, until somebody sucks for a little while, it's all relative, but you feel like that, you know, until you kind of suck for a little a while. You don't really know what somebody's career is going to be like. Looking back,

what do you think the biggest difference between, you know, amateur and college golf, a professional golf was for you? I think I got away with a lot of stuff as an amateur player that caught up. Golf swing. I didn't have great fundamentals, but I knew how to play the game so well, and I put it in chip so well. And I didn't have any fear because I didn't have a reason to yet. And then you start hitting some balls offline. You start missing some cuts and you start, you know, what is this? But I think too, I look back and I'm like it was, it was so much easier to play. It's like if you're 10 playing against 12 year olds, like you kind of have nothing to lose. And so you get to a point where you're like, no, I'm actually expected to play great. And when I play

great, it's not exceeding anybody's expecting it. It's just like that's the expectation. And that's, That was what was hard to kind of live up to. And that's, but that's what's impressive about some of these guys that come in, you know, can't lose, blah, and then you just keep playing well. But part of it too is what I found is like, if you're good at something,

like no matter how nervous you are, you're gonna perform. And if you're not that great at it, you've been getting away with it, it'll come to the surface. And what part of your game do you think that was for you? Oh, driver. I mean, I was hitting it so crooked,

I mean, I'm the worst player of all that. It's like, you know, and I mean, when you start, when you start analyzing your weeks by how many provisionals you hit, like when you, you know, I mean, you step up on the tea and you're like, there's the driving range. I'm pretty sure this is going there. Like, you know, left to right win and you're like, you think about walking the tea with two balls, you know.

I've never seen this side of you. Oh, this is ridiculous. No, ridiculous. He used to come back from tournaments and we'd be hitting balls on the right before you and I were going to play or whatever. Like the way you would talk to yourself and I was like, here's, it was why you were still playing. Like still a tour player.

He's playing the next week and he's like, I am literally the worst driver that ever hit the golf ball. Like I'd watch him hit balls and it'd be just seed, nice, you know, straight and all this stuff. Like, what is the matter with you? Like everything is fine and you are always just, I'm the worst driver in history. I mean, you give me three or four balls in a row. I'll get pretty good.

Like, I'll get the timing of it. And then you make me, you make me wait like 30 seconds and you put an extra set of eyeballs on me and there's there was no telling and so but it was I mean so I spent a good like five years you know going to the to the course it didn't matter how good the warm up was because I knew that that didn't really count so I'd go to the first tee no it doesn't like you you get to hit ball after ball and and you can get a rhythm I could always get a rhythm but then all of a sudden you step up you know the first tee and it's like all right which one's going to show up now you know and so it was my mechanics were terrible and I was just in a tailspin for like

like five years and it's terrible. Oh, dude, it wasn't terrible. I watched you hit one of the best T-shots of your career. Oh, what's that one? Number four at Bay Hill. I mean, just an absolute seat. It went 57 yards. This is so great.

This is so great. Is it a three one? No, it was a driver. Driver? Oh, dude, it was. Oh, shit. So, so number four, four at Bay Hills, you know, par five. And of course, I see houses down the right because anytime winds off the left, like,

It doesn't matter. They're all in place. So there's this tree that's like 47 and a half yards off the tee. And I'm like on the left side. And I'm like, well, I'll just take it over that and hit just a big high cut and kind of ride the wind. It's probably the only way I can get home anyway. And you know what?

I'll just start it far enough over there that like that little ditch and then the houses that are way over there. It's just not in play. And so I'm like, I'll just take it up top, right? And I thin it. And it literally just wax. What was it? Like two thirds the way up the tree?

I mean, it wasn't that close. It wasn't close. And it just hits it. And fortunately, it like went straight down, thumped right on the next T-box. And it. And yeah, there's something. And it was just like, was dead silent. And Biggie was caddied for you.

And you go, Eric, does that count as a fair way? And he's like, I'm not sure Bryce. He goes, I'm going to need you to check that out. That's a T-box in regulation. Right. And I still had to hit. And I'm like just dying laughing. I backed off my T-shot.

I was like, Holy shit. You're going to be the only guy I have a longer driving distance lane because that was a driving distance. Of course. And that was probably the next thought. I'm like, I was like,

you think about it, you're like, all right, this is driving distance. You need to hit the fairway because you need that role. Otherwise, everybody's going to keep making funny for being short.

I texted later, you averaged 183 off the T. You averaged 147 off the T. So great. That's right. Yeah. No, I think that counted closely or whatever.

Yeah, it was a fairway hit. You had to go over and his other group like, waiting for you and you're like hey guys sorry you had to go no no it was it was the next t-box it was like the white tees yeah oh the next te box so we you know it went from it was straight 550 par five to 500 par four and just you know go after it no problem i made my six went to the next hole no big deal moving yeah just don't make dubs yeah it's all good six is he bounced back from it's those sevens

but i took the ditch out of play i mean that's that's that's the main thing yeah it's great but you know you had a very smart when you forgot about that i love that was story. It was so fun. That was also the round our good friend Lucas Glover started battling a little bit with the putter. And it went from three guys having a blast all playing well and chumming up to I don't think a word was spoken

to each other the last 10 holes. It got weird. No, but that's like a perfect example of, so Lucas has had some problems with short puts. Okay, he's like, I think he would tell you he's not very good at it. And so just like I was not very good with a driver, but

yet with a driver with a long club, he's crazy good. And it's like, it doesn't matter how nervous you are. We watched him hit quite a few puts on one hole. Leading the golf tournament to go into hopefully make the cut. And then most impressive thing was, is he steps up,

you remembered it too. He stepped up on the next hole with a driver and just hit on a hole that I, like there's no chance I'm hitting that ninth fairway with. It's in and off the left, and it's a little dog leg left. I'm playing from the right trees every time. Well, he, after I think he four-putted the hole four,

and he gets up and he just hits this perfect, like, 317-yard drive. raw that's like never left the middle of the fairway and I'm just like no he falls out of bed doing that we we fall out of bed making six footers yeah you know which are not as helpful it was crazy because I mean here's me I mean when we're all playing lots it's a good time out yeah we're all chirping each other having a good time and then it's like one person had something at and you would have thought we're at a funeral the yeah I couldn't get that it happens yeah the the vibe of a group can change quick especially when you're playing with buddies and one of them's

having something you're like then they get dragged down then you get dragged down you're hitting 57 yard drives these four whack and it's like all Colts the only one like guys come on I'm just hitting it straight and then 240 hitting the wood onto the green four hybrid on the green everyone come along with me four we had a couple good ones throughout our time um we played together at the players i don't remember that no you no we're just we're going to talk about this because cut it didn't happen you being you this is fantastic so we're playing together you myself let's talk about the debacle on 18 the day before when we got on the on the clock right after you fat hooked it in the water, which was awesome.

I never heard this. Oh, that's the best bar. Thursday was better than Friday. Okay, well, go ahead. You start with Thursday and I'll lead to Friday. Yeah, we're playing, yeah, we're, we were afternoon because we played more the next day. And I remember we were, we may have been behind, but you're, when you play 17, you have

to walk way around and blah, blah, whatever. And, uh, and then you hit some weird, I swear you like fat hooked it or something. It was a snipe. It did not cross anywhere. On 18, it, I had to drop about 60 yards ahead of me. Yeah, it's not good. I was trying to cut and cover the corner. And somewhere between him hitting the T shot and dropping, we got put on the clock.

Like, think about the time. I literally was getting ready to drop my ball in this rule official. I won't say his name, but he's not the nicest human in the world. Drives up on the team. He goes, you guys are on the clock. And I'm like, well, can I drop my freaking golf ball first? And he's like, oh, I'm sorry. And then literally, we were off the clock in the next fairway.

That's right. That's right. We got up in the next hole and there was a group up there. Yeah. That's how it works. Hurry up and wait. Yeah. But it leads to Friday.

And like I said, him and William McGirt and we're all going good. But, you know, golfers are selfish and they get in the zone, which I was in one that day. I was playing very nice. Not you, Cole. I didn't play good very often. That's just your normal golf. Yeah. But I had it 10 under through 17.

Get to 18. I hit the green on the front left part and the pin was over on the right. And us being, I would say, he is well, you know, we know what history in golf is. And we know 63 is the low shot at the play. I'm like, oh my God, if I can just two putt this thing, we got the record. Well, what do I do? I three putt. First person to come up to me.

My good friend, Bryce Mulder, said, nice fucking three putt. Way to fuck it up. And I'm like, yeah, I know. I can't believe it. He goes, no, I don't give a shit about the course record. He goes, that was the only bogey in our group today. I was like, threesome. You got it.

It's all about the group, dude. Well, he's kind of selfish, right? Yeah. Right. Well, to be fair, he was high made in the group with 67. Nice playing. I was guiding it in there. Like, you got to guide it in there.

The weekend, it's a big purse, not a big deal. So that was the first thing said to me, and the first text I got was from Charlie Hoffman saying nice three-putt. So, that's how you know, really good. Your friends are not the ones that tell you how great you are.

That's true. Anybody can get those. It's the guys that are you when you're at your lowest. Yeah, exactly. I love it. Let's talk a little about your first PGA tour win because that was a highlight. That was a long time. First one?

Your first and only. Okay. It's more than we got it. Hey, we don't know. You never know. I may, uh, true. No,

that's not going to happen. You're still a pro. You've been working really hard. Yeah, I've been working hard. But 2011, what is now known as the Safeway, you get that first win in a playoff over Briney Baird, six-hole playoff. Epic playoff.

What do you remember about that week? Well, they replay it all the time. I mean, how could you not remember it? Shell's wonderful world. Right? It's on, you know, it's on every decade or so. So I was playing well, and I was, well, I always remembered.

I bogeed the first two holes of that tournament. which was always kind of cool to like have in the back of your mind that did you book your plane ticket on three for friday uh you had that pre-booked yeah that's what i used to do it's probably pre-booked i booked a lot of flights on thursday night or friday halfway through the round but um but no you know so i i i think i shot like even part of the first round and i started playing really good and i you know got at home over the weekend but i remember that was one of the first times post-struggling which is why like when i watch it's a real thing like the scar tissue the mental like anguish that you go through builds up over time.

And that was the first time that I'd come back and I was like, no, I'm gonna go try to play. I'm gonna go try to win. And the reason I knew that was because I hit it like 20 feet on the first hole and I ran it three feet by. And my first thought wasn't, oh no, you just ran it three feet by. It was, damn, it didn't make that. Like, and even caught me off guard.

I'm like, well, that's different. And the next hole, I had like 20 feet and I hooped it. I'm like, okay, this feels different. Let's go. And then, you know, things kind of fell together. He, it was kind of a cool finish. He chipped in for Eagle on 17. I heard it, saw the leaderboard before I had hit a wedge shot on 18

and hit it close enough. And actually, I made like a 15 footer from the back part, like behind the green. And I'll be the first to admit, like I hit a bad put. Like, I totally pulled it. No, I made it. Well, no, but it's like, some of your best putts you don't make. So I literally, I can't remember if I pulled it or pushed it.

I remember it was half a cup offline or a cup off line and I just misread it too. All right. So I'll, you know, I'll take it. I'm clutch. Yeah. Don't ever admit that, dude. Right? Isn't that great?

I mean, well, I'll be happy to tell you about all the puts that I hit well that I got screwed on. So, yeah. And then we were, we went back and forth on 17, 18, 17's driveable when they move the T's up. And from going from not being able to hit a driver on a, on the planet to be able to hit that green three times in a row in the playoff was pretty fun. But that's the difference in when your mechanics are decent and you know where it's going where you can figure it about the really bad shots and go hit a, you know,

hit a golf shot when things are going well. So, and then had to make about a six-rate footer on the, on the 18th pole to finally, finally do it. And just crush briny. We've had the longest, like, winless tree. Send him out forever right now. Yeah. You ended his career.

son of a face. So I remember at the time looking, and he'd made like 14. something million and not one. And I started thinking, I'm like, that's a lot of really good golf. And then unfortunately, I think he's dealt with some injuries and stuff. So, but yeah, so that was the epic. And if you haven't seen it, just tune in. It's like it's on every other hour.

It'll be on tomorrow. Like, yeah, if there was a classic golf, it would be on, it'd be on yeah nonstop yeah are you talking about this scar tissue i know you saw sports psychologists and things like that throughout your career give me the best piece of advice or what it got you you said this was post-struggled what's the best piece of advice you got from a sports psychologist um i worked with if you can remember if there's no no i just so i worked with a couple of i worked with a couple of guys one i became really close friends with um that still works with some guys out there um that's a sports psychologist

and works with people in the financial world and whatever but um And we're close, and we had some good times, but there was this one guy that I was introduced to through another player. And I never met him in person. Like, he was true, like, shrink. He was a psychoanalyst. I don't know what the right terminology is.

So, but literally I'd call him, like, every Wednesday at whatever time. And, like, I wouldn't lay on a couch, but essentially it was a session, right? So, but he was funny because he would, he would get, like, down to it. No, it was great because he wasn't like this, oh, so how, how? do you feel cold? What does that make you feel? Like he was, he got to the point, right? And one of the things he taught me was just the fact that, you know, you're wrapping your golf shots up and your self-worth and blah, blah, blah. And it's like, okay, well, yeah, I get that. And then one day he was like, all right, Bryce, let's just, let's think about tomorrow. All right, you're

going to tee off tomorrow at whatever, you know, tournament on the corn theory that I was on. And he goes, what's the worst that can happen? And I'm thinking, well, I can hit on the driving range. one is a tough drive three times in a row and then what do you call the next provision like you know that's what goes through my head and he goes no no

he goes like because there's two things that could happen where I would I would other than health or whatever this was great this is kind of the way he talked he was kind of vulgar

kind of but funny and he goes there's two things that happen that I would I would say to that that was just a bad day he was like you could run out of balls or you could shit your pants

because so So he goes, if you did that, like, I would agree that's a pretty bad day. Like, you should feel like less of a human. Like, that's how he talked, right? And he was like, so bring a lot of golf balls and wear dark pants. Now, what else do we have to talk? I was like, it's weird, but like, it's actually really good advice because how, what's the worst that really is going to happen out there? So that was it.

Don't run out of golf balls. Don't shit your pants. I got good news and bad news. I had dark pants on. I'm good. You got to use shit analogies for Bryce. It really starts to register. It's Georgia Tech education.

That's incredible. But I think to the surprise of a lot of people, you stepped away from the game in 2017. I believe it was at your Arkansas Hall of Fame induction. Arkansas Hall of Fame induction. Yeah. I mean, that's where I said something about it. Official. Yeah.

That's where you made official. That's where ESPN picked it up. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's weird. Nobody missed me for like six weeks. Like, nobody even knew I was gone. But, I mean, that's a big decision.

I mean, this is something you've done your whole life. And then all of a sudden. you decide this isn't for you anymore. Like, how did that decision come about? Well, and it's weird because most times there's not like this moment when you, I'm not even going to say retire, because I know you're going to say you didn't retire, you quit. So I'm just going to get out there.

I have done. I quit. Yeah. But there's usually like this, you kind of keep playing. And I just didn't want any more of it when it was time. But it was even like 2014, 15, 16, I could tell that on paper, everything looked fine. and, you know, if my game was held together with duct tape in, like, 2014, and by, like, 2016, it was, like, masking tape, and it was all falling apart,

and I could just feel it. And so I was like, all right, I'm either going to get better, like, actually better, be able to hit the ball at a level that helps me compete at the level that I want to play out, which is playing Ryder Cups and compete in majors, not, like, hope to qualify for some of this stuff or, you know, hope to keep my card. And so I was like, you know what, I'm willing to take a little bit of a game, gamble, take a, you know, work on my golf swing. And if it gets better, awesome.

And if it doesn't, this is kind of ending anyway, you know. And so by like 2017, I was, 2016 was a decent year on paper. There was never one time I went out and felt comfortable. I remember shooting like the back nine. Yeah, it was the back nine in the afternoon. One, you know, one day in the front nine shooting 59 at Colonial. And my buddy, and then I, and we had a rain delay and I had lunch with a buddy. he's like, oh, things feel good.

I'm like, there's no chance. This is holding on. Like, I mean, I got no chance. 59 of my last 18. Seriously, I'm like, this has got no chance. I could just tell. And then there's, but I know that it's real because at other times, like, I felt it where I'm like, playing poorly.

I'm like, done it. I'm so close. But so we get to the middle of summer in 2017 and I'm flying to Reno and I've just made the cut, which was just like a Houdini act. And finished like 64th only because I grind. it out of an MDF cut, right? So I've like convinced myself flying to Reno. I've got two starts left and I've convinced myself halfway in the flight that I'm just, I'm going to figure it out, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and I'm going to just start beating the world, right? Like I've,

maybe I had a little cocktail, maybe whatever, right? The air pressure in there was nice and I just was, you know, so I get to the course, you know, register. And again, yeah, so we've got like three weeks last left of the year, it's probably Reno, PGA, Greensboro, and then the FedEx. I was like 185 or something. So I'm on the range, and it's like one of those real range sessions. You're hitting balls, you're hitting balls, you go have lunch, you come back, you get balls. Well, now you start tinkering, and then you tinker some more, and then you start videoing. And somewhere into like hour seven on the day of like hitting balls, you know, I'm full on hit one ball, video it, go back, look at it, try something else, right?

Just like, and I remember looking down the range and seeing someone that's 10 to 12 years my elder. Say it. And just like seeing what my next 10 years is going to be like, because he's doing the exact same thing, right? I'm literally, you can see yourself, you know, you're doing one of these and you're drawing the lines and you're kind of reverse. and I look over and so and I'd love him to death. So Dickie Pride. There you guys. You're what is just like 30 feet down there and I'm like oh my gosh.

And I love I loved it but he's 10, 12 years older than I am and I'm like that's me in 10 years. I'm like I'm so lost but I know it. I'm like I know I'm so at the end of the rope I just like packed up my bag, went back to the house, had a good cry, called my wife. calls me of the people next morning with Drew and went home. And that was like, that was it. And the funny thing is like running into Suzanne Barnes in the airport on like a Tuesday morning and Reno headed to Phoenix. And she's like, are you hurt?

I'm like, no. She's like, I'm like, I'm just going home. You know, I'm done. And she was kind of like, all right, good for you. So then I, yeah. So that was like, that was it. I knew that it was over. There was like, I literally remember packing my bag, you know,

putting, putting clubs in the bag, you know, and as I'm walking off, I was kind of like, wow, no, this is like, this feels, this feels right. The story would have been better if it ended there. I actually played one more time, right? Well, no, I had like a week. Right? Had to.

Well, no, I had a week off. And then there was Greensboro, you know, Green's, you know, Green'sboro. Yeah. And I'm like, it's not like I'm going to start a new career in the next, like, 10 days. I'm like, I need to know, if I'm going to be done, I'm going to know it's done. Played Thursday, felt like sick on Friday.

With Drew, I was like literally dizzy and whatever. Woke up the next morning, felt great because I was like, that's when I knew. I'm like, no, no, no, this was the right choice. This was it. I'm done. And it's been, every time I watch golf, every time I play golf, I'm reminded that it was the right decision. And now that you're like playing with you now, it's just great because I remember we were playing a whisper a few months ago and you had like this 40-yard bunker shot and you're like,

all right, just like you've been practicing. Yeah, just like we've been working on. Exactly. I think I hit one of these about two and a half years ago. It was pretty good. But you seem like so much happier now that you stepped away. I'm, yes. Well, that's what I found.

I found that I liked competing if I was winning. And I was like, I liked golf when I was playing well. And you learn what do you actually like about the game? What do you like about all of it? But the competition part is, you know, I liked playing great, but there were other things I was interested in. And so it wasn't tough to move on because I just kind of knew there's other stuff that I would enjoy doing. And then now I get to play golf and I don't have to care.

I don't have to be good at it, which is really fun. It's weird. Like I can go out and play, you know, if we played five years ago and I'd lost $20 to you, like I'd be so mad and just like angry the whole time. And now I could lose five times that amount to you. And I'm like, other than wanting to beat you, I really don't, like, it's fun. I'm out there. It's fun. And it's so much more enjoyable.

So that part of it's good. You transitioned into the pro to I don't give a shit mode faster than anyone I've ever seen before. I got to tip my cap to you on that. No, it only looked like I didn't care. No, it only looked like I didn't care really quickly. Are there more guys out there playing right now that you think that feel kind of the same way you do with like one foot in, one foot out? I know I don't want to do this anymore, but this is the only thing I've ever done. So I just stay here and try to make money.

You hear it so much. I remember seeing in Greensboro. So when I was leaving Saturday morning and I ran into Johnson Wagner, who's just an awesome dude, right? And he's playing really well that week and he has to play well to keep his card. And I run into him in the hotel lobby. And he goes, hey, so what are you, what's next? I'm like, nothing. I'm done.

And he's like, you know, he's doing the math. He's kind of like, I know he's played pretty bad this year. Like you can see it spinning his head. And he's like, you don't finals? I'm like, no, just I'm done. He's like, like done, done? And I said, yeah, and he goes, oh, I'm jealous. Like literally, you have the balls to do it.

So then it's like, oh, how you're a kid and all that kind of stuff. And his wife and his kids were sitting, you know, like, literally, you know, 10, 12 feet away. And so he, then he comes back, he goes, seriously, done? And I was like, yeah, I'm good. And he, like, turns his wife and she was like, kind of like gives that look like, yeah, I get it. Like, it's not always that fun. And so I've had quite a few that are like, no, I just. The guys are out there playing and they're struggling.

Like, it's just, there's not much fun about, like, there's nothing fun about making bogeys. There's nothing fun about making a, missing a cut. Like, that's just, it doesn't matter. There's just nothing fun about that. So when I realized that my best golf was going to be like 8th or 12th or 15th, and then it was kind of like, yeah, the upside, the upside, the quitters sitting there. Preaching to the choir.

Our hair's three. Golf sucks. What a bunch of losers out there making millions. I love it. And now, tell everyone what you're doing now because you got out of that world. But hold on real quick. You said you had one foot out the door. Like, I mean, nowadays, if you have, if any inch of you is not into it, like, you're screwed.

Oh, it's, yeah. It's so hard. They're better. Players are better. They're coming out. It's, you know, they've been doing it. You know, they've been, they've been focusing on it for longer. They've been, they're just, they're better athletes.

It's like they're just, and they've got zero fear because all of them now have no fear. So there's nobody that comes out that's kind of timid or whatever. So it's amazing to watch. It's fun to watch. You know, the game is different and that's fine. You know, it just so happens. Everybody's like, oh, but you're such a good. There's guys at our club that we play with all the time.

They're like, oh, you're such a good putter. Like, you could be out there forever. And I'm like, no, like you can't. The best putters in the world make up like a shot around. The best ball strikers make up like two and a half shots around. Like there's just no, and by the way, if you're a poor ball striker, you're losing two shots around. Like, do the math. You can't catch up.

Losing. Like, you're just losing. You're packing your bag. So statistically, it just became, you know, more and more obvious that, you know, if you can't hit it, you know, if you can't hit it pretty long and know where it's going and have kind of no fear in doing that, then it's not going to be very fun. Now you get to play cards, drink, have a good time. I'm going to shoot 80 and who gives a shit. It's the best. It's great. Yeah.

No, like, it's so funny. Now I step up on the first T or step up with the range. I'm like, wait, what was the swing thought that I used last Monday? Because I,

wait, did that? No, that one didn't work. Wait, what was, no, it was the previous Monday. Okay, yeah, I'll try that. And then I'm like,

no, it's not working. But, like, I don't, you don't, you don't care, but it's, it's, I mean, you always, like,

playing well, it's fun. But it's, It's, you know, now I've been able to enjoy the game and, you know, the way you do, like, more is when you were a kid. It's, you enjoy hitting good shots, and you kind of forget about the bad shots instead of the opposite, which is what happens to you as you play professionally or play competitively.

The only thing you remember the bad shots, you can go out and finish fifth, and all you remember is why you didn't finish better. This episode's going to be a great lesson to all the kids out there, about positivity. Pros think just like you think. That's right. He's a good on the range. No, but it's a shit.

I'm going to blow it as soon as I was. No, but it was funny because that was something that I talked about with my buddy, Geovalianti, who's a sports psychologist and works with a lot of people. And we had times where we would, we would, this wasn't the same shrink from before. No, he wasn't that guy. No, he never had that good of advice. So it was, but part of what we would do is, is work every week because I pointed out. I said, dude, everybody at play with out here that's like 40 years and older, they're miserable.

Like, they are just miserable. visit. He's like, well, the game beat, you know, he throws out this, like, psycho, you know, whatever. And, but he goes, well, how about this? How about we, like, try to combat that? You know, let's talk about what you actually enjoy being out there. So I would weekly, like, at times, not all the time, but, like, work on what I enjoyed about it because you, it's so easy to, like, forget about it. But again, you're just taught to remember the poor shots and not the good ones. And so you leave playing really well and you hit three weird shots and that's all you think about. Yeah. The mind of a golf. It's a beautiful. And now it's a sick. Now he'll be 72 weird shots and

three good ones. I'm like, yeah, I'm back. I'm back. I'm back. What's the club championship? And the next toll I'm like, yeah, I'm not playing. I'm not playing for a couple weeks. Yeah. You want to get to the email? Let's get to the email. Let's get to the stories coming. Yes, we do. Okay. All right. We've recently change this first question. This is one, it goes to everybody. If you could be anyone else for a day, dead or alive, who would it be? Present company excluded.

You can't be made. Obviously. Yeah, yeah. That's too easy. Man, present company. It's weird. It'd be like some other athlete that is just either really good basketball player.

I've never done to basketball on a like I'd like to do that once I'd like to be someone just a beast or like like a like the best tennis player in the world I'd say Roger Federer like eight years ago that would be I'd love tennis and I would love to be I'm terrible at it

but I would love to be that and be able to to be able to do that and have that skill which tells you how juvenile my mind is it just goes to another you know another sport instead of somebody's like changing the world it any other way but uh but that's what that's what that's right that's right that's what that's right

for par for par yeah every eight footer's okay yeah i always say that when i get up like on the first hole and they're like oh hey great pot it's like seven foot slider for par and i'm like too i couldn't be more comfortable yeah it's like this i'm you're welcome to the mud i live in the mucked that's that's how this hole's played you and dr stoetz just love butt the bar that's right the muddier we get the more you're screwed all right that's a good answer roger feder What's your tennis? You and, are you a ping pong guy?

A little bit. All right. So you know a cooch? He's super nice. I beat him once. You beat him once? I beat him before he got really good. Okay.

And then he went and started playing like leagues in Atlanta and it got, which is just weird. He's the American that gets brought up everything. Yeah, yeah. No, he's legit. I beat him at his house on his table. And then he waxed me the next time. I said, okay, one to one, we're good. And we're tied.

I said, we're the same player. We're the same guy. We're exactly equal. All right. Next question. Do you feel guilty about questioning the honesty of our former commander-in-chief, Bill Clinton, after you shot 60 with him in college? That's so great. Do I feel guilty about questioning?

By the way, you shot 60 with the president. The most honest president involved in the-lawful-on. Even I cheated. Like, I hit two balls off the first tee, because when he tells you he hit another ball, like, what do you do? No, sir, I'm good. No, Perez. I'm straight. Right?

I'm sure he gave me, like, some five-footers. So, yeah, so this was 99 playing at Chanel Country Club, which was my home course of the time, which is where he played when he was present, came back to Little Rock. My teacher was the director golf, so I pull up and there's all these SPVs, and you can kind of tell when he was there. So my teacher goes, hey, do you want to play with the president today? So, of course, yes.

And it was really cool round. He was awesome to play with. I did hit two balls off the first day because, of course, I get nervous. The ball goes in the right trees. Second one, pipe, white T's. So when you say all, you shot 60. I'm like, all right, well, I hit two balls off the first tee, probably gave some three and four footers playing the white teas. Like in my mind, I'm like, well, that doesn't really count.

But yeah, so we played, and me being just naive, I was interviewed by a reporter the next week at the U.S. Amateur. And it was, you know, it was like a five-minute interview. And the one thing that they took was, and it was posted in Newsweek, they always did these little blips on the very back of Newsweek. And the quote was, the president shot 90, but I think the scorecard said 84. Which is so great. Which nowadays, that would be like a national news story. Social media, you'd be explode. They'd be asking about it everywhere.

Did he ever hear from Mr. Clinton? I never heard from that comment. But 12, 13, 14 years later, I saw him at the Clinton Foundation, at the Bob Hope or whatever. there's so many words in that whatever but but clinton foundation was a sponsor and he had a reception and i never go on to it and and so we're there's like maybe 10 players then a bunch of people from the tour um were there and and i wanted to get on the list to see if you know he remembered playing whatever so of course like you know president clinton would would do he comes in the service entrance and he come he just plops right down to the the table full of players wives okay

Of course, right? Why not? Right? Just perfect. So he, you know, and he just, hey, how are you doing? And so my wife introduced herself, hi, I'm Kelly Mulder. And he just starts in, I played with your husband and he starts like reciting. Now, he remembered me shooting 59, which was amazing because he like got everybody's attention

in the room and like pointed me out and starts going through the round. And he shot 59. And of course, I didn't stop him, right? It was actually 58. Right? Yeah. No, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was probably a little better.

So which plays too, like everybody says about his memory. And of course, everybody in the room, like, if anybody was voting that day, everybody in the room would have voted for him. He was so, so good at that. So he didn't remember me calling out for cheating. If he says he shot 84, he shot. He shot 84. I've never known Bill Clinton to Fibb. Yeah, ever.

Honest Bill. All right. Next question. What is the better fashion statement, in your opinion? The white belt you wore pretty much. every round you played on the PJA tour or the Dragon Zip sweatshirt you wore back in the day. That's so good.

What is a Dragon Zip sweatshirt? So first of all, I wore a white belt pretty much 90% of the time for like five years. And I like strategically, I'm like, yeah, Matt, Cooch would always make fun. Matt Wiring would make fun of me. Like all my buddies would be like, oh, yeah, white belt, really? How old are you?

And I'm like, I'm like, dude, it's so easy. White shoes, white belt. Like it just goes. Just worry about yourself. And then I realized one day I like saw a picture of myself. I'm like, dude, you're like too old and unathletic. Like it's over. It's, yeah.

That's when you hit yourself for real. It is, right? You're just like, oh man, I missed the mark. And I've been missing it like every other day for a long time. And then I'm, okay, so that. Yeah. This is great. Yeah, from some friends.

So we do our research around here. Yeah, dude. We'll find it. So it was from Express. Hot store. A hot store. A lot of cool dudes that Express. They,

when they make clothing, they think of me, right? Like they're thinking, edgy, edgy, athletic, young. Yeah,

like I did, hip Eddie Bauer. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. And everything they have is this big dragon. Well,

I had this jacket that I happened to wear at the wrong time, thinking that it was going to look okay and as I'm walking out and it's got this big dragon down like the sleeve it's so great it's so and so

so it's one of those things you know when you when you like walk out same thing with that red hat where you just lit me up you just know when you walk like when you're wearing something you're like I kind of feel like this is a miss but like who cares I'm going to meet my buddies

at stake 44 like whatever you know and I show up and they're like what is that dragon? Like, who are you? And I've got like a white t-shirt, like v. I'm like, you're right.

Like, I don't know what I'm doing here, but I'm just going to go with it. So, and then they, yeah, then they stole it. Yeah, but he stole it.

And then I went on a guy's trip and he brought it out and wore it. They, like, yeah, they wore it like in Vegas. They like, they traded wearing it. I got a picture of Matt Wybring wearing it.

Oh, yeah. It's so good. That's the, that is opposite of you. What's funny is I found another jacket. It was all, it was like,

black on black, but it has a dragon on it too. Yeah, it's so great. It's like this line. It's, but I mean, I'm just kind of edgy. You know, you get us. You're always pushing the envelope, dude. As you reach for your water. It's right.

You get too much. You got tequila. They're making me nervous with all these hundreds of listeners. Maybe. Maybe. Dozens? We like to refer to it as dozens. All right.

Do you ask that? Yeah. All right. Next one. Are the only PJ Tour winner in history whose win has been overshadowed by a hot dog. Got more pub. So no kidding. Fries.com open.

And my one literally shining moment, Tiger was in the field. You know, I didn't get the Masters with the win, but Tiger was in the field. He was teeing off the back nine on Sunday, which you and I can relate to that, right? What a bum.

You can't, but yeah, but yeah. And so he's tea, yeah, he didn't play very well, but weirdly, his third to last hole, somebody ran on the green, and threw a hot dog at them. If you Google Tiger Woods, hot dog, there's a video.

I mean, it's fantastic. Well, it was nothing. Like, I forget why it happened or why the guy did it. There's never really like a security threat. But that's what ended up like in the USA today. I remember looking at it and going, this is so great.

It was like, Tiger gets hot dog thrown at him, blah, blah, blah, blah. Mulder wins. Like, it was like, it was, He has like three paragraphs, and I had like this little snippet about like a six whole playoff, first win, blah, blah, blah, and that's it. And I'm like, that is so great. Like, it was so perfect.

But yeah, somebody threw a hot dog at him. And he probably had it stage, right? He just needed attention. You needed the light. I can't let Bryce steal all the shine. Again. You would have killed with this new PIP program, dude, and all the pub. Right, all the fun.

Grow the game. You're growing it, dude. All right. Next question. who did you get shot down harder by your girls at your high school or coach holder when you were trying to go to Oklahoma State? Oh my gosh. I didn't get shot down by coach holder, but he did ask me to grip his finger. What?

Dude, I'm not kidding. How where is it? Okay. So a little bit of backstory here. First of all, I was shot down by just about any girl at any time. Not the onion. Not the onion. Loved your accent, bro.

Well, you know, South Georgia girls. He was only human. Oh, so I was born with quite a bit smaller left hand than right hand. And when I was being recruited, Coach Holder had won so many championships, and he was just like the guy, right? And so I think he just kind of had this alpha kind of like he's going to, you know, you're lucky to come here, right? And literally I'm hitting balls in the back of the range as like a 16-year-old.

And I'm like a rule follower. And so all I know is he's not allowed to talk to me. He starts talking to me at the time. and he goes hey come here let me see your hand so I you know show my hand he goes how's your grip pressure and you're 16 year old and you're just you do kind of feel just lucky to be like recruited by somebody's terrified yeah he's yeah he's yeah scary and then he asked me grip my hand grip my finger and his response was that's pretty good how does it work and I remember I was so proud I was so proud of just actually having something to respond and I was like I

I don't know. What do you think? I'm doing pretty well. Like, and he was like, yeah, okay. But I just remember from then on, I'm like, that was the weirdest. I feel like that was violating. I don't know what happened. I could probably in today's world, file like a complaint. Maybe I could, can I still, is there, there's probably some kind of like statute, right? 16 year old kid, hey, grip my finger. That's a product. Like, it happened. It's a problem. That's definitely a problem. It happened. You know, and then he was like, why didn't you come here? And I'm, and I'm like, it was kind of strange. Like, I don't know.

Well, I got a little bad information, but the story's great. Your boy's strict. Told me that, whatever, it doesn't matter. Great story. Grip my finger. There's got. Stranger danger. Alert, alert, alert.

Oh, God. Okay, you made the right decision. All right, you were a model collegiate athlete. Like you just said, you're a rule follower, right? But you do love a good prank. Give me the best prank you ever played in college. We went back and forth, like, who, like to play pranks on you know a roommate that was on my side and then we would try to go back

but like the the best was the best was like you guys know playing like many tours or corn ferry and you're with your buddies and you're traveling together and there's just a lot of time so the best was like then and Matt wiring was just like my boy like we we traveled a lot together and so like the the one the one that sticks out like I would pick on on him because he was so, he was wound so tight around a golf course. And everybody, like, around a tournament, everybody was like, no, he's no fun. I'm like, no, just like, you need to spend, like, away from a golf tournament. He's awesome. He's the best. And so I would pick on him, like, little things. I'd see his car. And I would, I would park, like, an inch from his

driver's side door. And then just, like, sit somewhere until I could see him have to climb in through the passenger seat, just because, I don't know, I thought, you know, I thought. And you saw him, like throwing his hand like kind of looking at it like throwing his hands up in the air and he's frustrated and i'm like okay that that's that that was the point like that's it so and then i went and every time i got a chance i'd like start going through his bag and like signing his golf balls um which yeah right you start you know and then and then you know i open the big sleeve down the side and he's got these perfect like six gloves like packed just so perfectly tight and i'm like well those are the same those are the same gloves I wear.

So I start switching them out with my gloves, which are too small for a nine-year-old. So I start putting some of those down there. And it was great because I heard like the next week at like a pro am, he was kind of late to the first tee. And he's trying to put one on. And he's, you know, and he's, you know, he's, which is great. And so I tell my caddy, I'm like, okay, Sean, this guy's catty from him.

I'm like, he won't even, obviously I haven't gone far enough. We need to take this further before he. actually retaliate. So I wish I could take credit for this, or maybe I don't. So he, he, my catty goes, get his, get his umbrella. We're a colonial, not raining. Go get his umbrella. Like, what are you going to do with it? He goes, just get his umbrella. So get the umbrella, perfect, you know, title of sleeve. And it's just perfect right out of his locker. And I hit to my, I'm like, what are you doing that? He goes, well, I haven't seen it done, but I've heard of somebody that did this. Just give me some time. So I'm texting that night.

And apparently his next stop was to go to an adult bookstore or whatever, right? Get some magazines. He tapes some pictures, cuts out some pictures to the underside, and then wraps it nicely, sticks it back in the sleeve, which is not easy because now it's like, you know, stuff. And gives it back to me the next morning. I put it back in the locker. It's kind of one of those where you kind of like set a little bomb out there and see if it blows up. Like you just don't know.

And then the whole time I'm like, this is going to happen at a bad time. It's going to like cost him a shot or something. But I don't know. It felt like it was worth it. So we go like a month and there's like no rain on tour, which is weird in that time of period. And so then we get to Hartford and it's late on Friday afternoon or no, Thursday afternoon. I played the morning and I see it's about to rain. And I'm like, I'm texting Sean.

I'm like, hey, are you watching this? He goes, yeah. And he goes, do you still have the umbrella? I'm like, I have no idea. So I got some text. about an hour later from his agent who was right there and it's just one of those

it wasn't like a sprinkle and then turned into like a rain and then downpour like it turned into a downpour right away and he's like I guess you just picture somebody a pro like trying not to get all his stuff wet and he's trying to get

the sleeve off first which you can't because it's just jammed on there and then he can't open it so he's just you know and then he finally opens it to all this stuff pictures, graphic. Oh my God. And the best part was he knew me,

he just starts cussing me. And this was coming from his agent. He just starts cussing me, like to know in. And so I don't know what you do from there. You start taking it down. And I was watching how he was playing. And he parted the last like three holes,

which made me feel better. But it finally got his attention. Because he, and I was like, I'm a little. scared. I don't know what's going to happen. And I come back and he'd put he put condoms on my putter, my hybrid back in it. And then he put, which was actually kind of genius because the residue, like you can't get that off. On the grips, that's a problem. It wasn't on the grips, but it ends up on your grips once you touch it. And then it gets a little squirt. And once it gets in,

Once it gets in the head cover, it's just there. I remember I had to ditch that putter. It was like, it like varnished the Scotty Cameron, whatever. So I was like, dude, that's good. And then I realized on the first screen, because that's the first time that you lay your bag down, was that he found, and I think it was his kids, little stickers with letters.

And he spelled out some, let's just say he spelled out some graphic things that will not speak of, which were funny, because that's, but you think about it. It's the first time you lay the bag down. On the bottom? Yeah, on the bottom, right? You lay it down all of a sudden. It's well done.

I'm like, that's good. That's good. I appreciate it. That's an aggressive, Frank. The old porn in the umbrella routine. That's really good. I like that. I heard you also, this will lead into my next one,

because I believe you did one to Matt Coutcher and an awards banquet. Jesus. I, Bryce. How mean are you? It's all in good fun, guys. The nicest guy in the world. So Matt actually had a whole article, like a six-page spread in Sports Illustrated about him being this fun-loving prankster, whatever. And so you can imagine being, and at the time, like Sports Illustrated magazine was massive, right?

Everybody in Athletic Association had read it and they're all, you know, Matt's just a superstar. It didn't matter, you know, who was in the lunchroom. It was like Matt was the superstar and he was the prankster. So Matt's senior year, I think, it was my junior year. We're at an awards banquet, and the table next to us is some baseball guys. And Matt thinks of the idea of putting the name tags. Everybody's wearing a coat and tie and all look like idiots, right? None of us look good at them because, you know, but, you know, we got a name tag,

and they start putting name tags on some of the baseball players back. Well, it was Matt's idea, and it was just, you know, whatever. So we start doing it to Matt, because he's the, closest one of the speakers. So he's kind of turned around. We all start kind of doing it to him. And then I'm like nudging my buddy sitting next to me. I'm like, hey, I'm getting an award and they told me I was going to speak. Like, what are the chances I can get Matt to stand up? He's like, oh, you got to do it, you got to do it. And I thought he was going to be difficult. And it was really easy. I mean, so easy. So it's like, I don't know how many people were there, but it's the

whole, every athlete plus every coach, plus everybody in athletic association, whatever. And And I started into a story and literally mentioned his name for a quarter of a second. And I kind of, he was like, yeah, we went to a baseball game at Fenway for around regionals. I'm like, hey, and you know, Matt Kuchar gets our, gets us tickets. And you all know, Matt, before I could say stand up. Like, he shoots out of the chair. Hand couldn't be higher, big smile.

He's going around in every direction. Name tags all over him. And, you know, and everybody's laughing. And so I finished, it was one of those where I was like building up that moment. I just stumbled through like the last couple of minutes. And I sit down and you see him like three or four minutes later start to like, he's kind of like people are still laughing around us. You know, it's kind of one of those moments where you're like, I kind of feel like I'm the butt of the joke, right? Like, and he kind of starts reaching behind his back.

And he starts peeling him off one by one. He's seeing all of our names, right? There's another. Yeah, poor Matt. Yeah, poor Matt. You got it. format, right? And it was one of the things because he never said a word, but it was like, I don't think he had ever respected me that much than at that moment. Like, it didn't matter

all the golf stuff, like, whatever. But it was like, he's like, you kind of got me. But I was like, I was scared after that. I was like, he's going to get me in a major way. And, and this little bastard shift to him right now, I'm not scared to you. I'm not scared to you. I'm coming, dude, when you least expect it. Oh, I love it. Oh, that's good. I love that. That's it. I had mentioned his set name for half a second. Oh, yeah. I mean, he shot up like a cannon. Hey guys, Matt Couture. Yeah. So great. All right.

All right, my last one. Has there ever been a more disrespectful first T intro for a defending champion in the 2020 or 2012 fries.com muffin? This is a microcosm. I mean, this built up for a number of years where

I would get called Bruce Mulder on the first T and it was funny enough to, enough people that everybody started calling me Bruce, which was great. It was, you know, just fine. And it was even to the point where, like, I'm playing with Chappie, and he doesn't think that it's real, but he calls me Bruce anyway because he thinks it's funny. He's like, yeah, yeah, people call you Bruce in the first tea. Well, he's paired with me in the 2012, fries.com open, which I was defending champion. And this poor, this poor older lady was announcing, and she,

announces me as the 2011 fries.com or whatever the defending champion bruce molder and i mean chappie like just about fell those knees i'm like you know bending over just done right yeah and i'm it's hysterical i can't look at my caddy he's about to start laughing somebody corrects her and she tries to say it again and she kind of messes it up even like and i'm like no no no bruce is good that's what my friends call me and i hit like this low snipe like just i was so happy just to get it airborne and uh and that wasn't it like i got it uh i got it at the phoenix open i got it at my last uh players championship you know it was uh it was great so i'm still to this day called uh called bruce and your faces plastered all over everything all the

marketing materials it says brice you would think maybe they could slide it possibly possibly but uh it's so it's great so it's what my friends call me so perfect you're all right we talked a lot you're an Arkansas boy what's the first thing that comes to your mind when I mentioned the electric cowboy oh good times 50 cent drink nights I mean so the electric cowboy go come back from college that was like the Friday night Saturday night it was somehow like they played rap country you saw all walks of life but it was like the spot the like the late spot that you go to and it was were you the man around the electric cowboy. I was never the man anywhere that I went.

Anywhere that I went. If I had the dragon there, it would have been like, it would have been crazy. Just, yeah. So yeah, that was where you went. Yeah, I think it was like Friday night or something. Oh, it was just stupid, right? Why wouldn't you go? I remember taking a couple people there, which was a mistake, like friends from out of town that just didn't quite get it.

And you take them, it's one of those when you walk in and then you're seeing it through their eyes and you're like, yeah, this is kind of weird. It's a little sketchy place. Like, I don't, you're right. Like, it's great, I promise. And by the time, by like an hour later, they're like, this place is amazing. But you walk in and you're just kind of like, okay, yeah, it's not, it's not ideal. Like, it's not perfect, but yeah. 50 cents, well, you get past it, right?

Yeah, you bring $10, you get blasted. Oh, God. You sell the beer like in those little plastic cups where you just get, like, you just couldn't drink it. It was, yeah, that was great. I love it. God, what a beauty you are. This has been incredible. Bryce, thank you so much, my man.

Hey, thanks guys. Keep that positive mentality, dude. You're going, hey, I'm going to keep it going. We're going to need you for a loan soon. Thanks, man. Thanks, dude. All right, well, that was our man, Bryce Mulder joined us. What a guy, first off, I mean, you were kind of a fan boy around him as you're younger.

Oh, as a kid, yeah, man. When I first started playing golf, I think I was going into, let's see, seventh grade or something along those. Six or seventh grade, Bryce was a freshman at. Georgia Tech and he just won like freshman in the year and all the stuff. That was right when I was getting into golf. And my parents are like, oh, you know, Bryce. Like Bryce is doing really good in college. You should talk to Bryce or whatever.

So I like, oh, yeah, that's what I should do. I'm just starting, wrote him a letter. Writes me back, sends me an autographed Georgia Tech hat, some golf balls, which I kept for a long time. And then I actually brought it out one round when I played with Bryce. I was like, here, dude, I thought this might actually be worse of shit when you grew up. But it's not, you can have it back. I love it. I tell you what, every time I got paired with him on tour, I always played well.

I mean, I should have the course record at the players. I played with him at Bay Hill. I think it's just because he was one of the few guys that I could actually keep it within shouting distance of off the T. So we got to actually hang out and talk a little bit. But just such a comfortable pairing, always joking around. I mean, it's serious when it, but in between shots, it's typical Bryce Mulder, just joking around, hating on himself more than anything else,

which is one thing that I love about him. I respect a man who can do that. And also the best, I think the best putter that I've ever played with, just is one of those guys that makes everything. But when he doesn't make it, I don't care if it's 25, 30 feet. They all look like. They're going every time Bryce Puts, you just expect it to go in. That was kind of his superpower, because like you mentioned, not the longest dude off the tea in the world.

But God, dude, he was really, really, really good. And I think he just kind of fell out of love with it. You know, he came out, had early success. Third and his first tour start ever, probably thinks like, oh, this is going to be just like college. I'm going to keep beating everyone's head in. It doesn't happen. And he said, like, winning's fun and not winning and trying to make cuts and trying to make cuts and grind out a tour card is not as much fun. He just didn't, he didn't love it.

Like a lot of people love it. and he stepped away, and I think he's as happy as he's ever been right now. He plays golf occasionally, jokes around, drinks, slaps it. It's fun to see him play some bad golf now because he rarely ever saw it for a long time. But he's happy, dude, but it's a pretty, you know, interesting story from a guy like that. Yeah, but had a blast sitting down with him. I mean, he's definitely a, he's a much happier man now that he stepped away from the game. But still, he had an awesome career on the PGA tour, obviously college golf and everything,

but wish him, wish him the best. All right, well, let's get to the gambling this week. You made a huge move. Yes, let's do. Which is what you need. Finally. Yep, you took the favorite John Rom, picked up 2.25 million. My man, Will Zalotaurus, couldn't have let me down any worse.

It was really, really bad. But now that I'm losing, are we going to change the rules like we did last year? You're on a bit of a skid. Yeah, I'm a little old old MC skid. You want to change them? At what point do we get to change the rules? Well, you can propose it, and then if I agree to it, that's the way it works. Well, okay.

Anyways, let's go to the updated standings. I know you got a lead now. Yeah, that 2.25 million did some, wonders for you from being down over a million to now up one million seventy one thousand three hundred and thirty eight very nice week it's good to pick a winner to major little mongolian flip yeah it is nice it is those those ones are helpful all right well this week we got the travelers championship and it is a loaded field one of my favorite events on the pj tour crowds come out one particular gentleman i'm not a big fan of up there we got to talk about that

can we tell let's talk about that before we go to the gambling there is a fan up there's a fan up there in the northeast that for some reason does not like cold i have done some bad i don't know what you did no idea it was year after year this guy would come down and just and make it a point to only you not the rest of your group or like not everyone that walked through is not one of those guys that just bags on everyone it was just you single you out most of the time was 18 fairway correct that's the only the 18 fairway too to destroy you two years in a row i was in like the next to last group on sunday and i played like shit and i'm coming up 18 you just want it to end and then here's this guy just wearing my asses that you're just wearing my ass

out the entire way up the fairway and I'm like what who are you like it's so crowded over on the hill you really can't like see who it is and I'm like what have I done to you like just wearing me out and then the second year like once again here we go again I'm shooting like 74 on Sunday and he goes don't think I forgot about you just come back bitch and I play with Tommy Ganey and Tommy like wanted to go find this guy and fight him and I'm like let's just get out of here so if I'm walking up 18 fairway commentating this week at Hartford and he starts wearing me out I'm going to know I truly did something very bad to this man. And I might have to just go address it. Did you ever like locate him in this like when you're looking? Did you ever even. Did you ever even though you were here? My catty at the time, HD, he was like, just put your head down, keep walking. Let's go. So you don't have like a physical description of this man.

If you're in the Northeast, for any of our Northeast listeners, if you know this man, if someone's like, I hate cold or whatever, I used to, I used to bang on cold all the way around Hartford. Find him and put us in touch with him somehow because I really need to meet this guy. I want to talk to him. I want to know what you did to warrant all this. because he said some mean shit, he didn't he? He did. Yeah.

Basically told me I'm fat, worthless. I belong on the now corn fairy tour. Now he's going to tell me, you can't even play out there. That's why you're on TV. But I can't wait to see who this guy is. He's an angry, angry man. So if you're up there and you happen to know this guy is, let us know. Because we need him and cold with a face-to-face get to the bottom.

I love it. But this is a fantastic week. Travelers does an unbelievable job. Always one of the favorites for the players. And that's why they get such a loaded field. Even right after. U.S. Open all the way on the opposite coast. Yeah, there's a huge, huge names up there.

I just wonder who's motivated, who's not after a week like that, but it is a monster field. All right. A lot of guys to pick. Well, let's get to it. Who you got? I'll go with a monster name, and his name is Kevin Streelman. It's about as big as it gets.

Our boy, Streels. All right, he's playing great golf. I was in this situation just recently. Charlie Hoffman was playing pretty damn good golf, and I noticed it after a while, and I was like, I might as well try to ride the wave a little bit, and then I wrote it, and then the wave shot 80 on a Saturday. So it didn't work out as much. Streele's, four consecutive top 20s now, eighth at the PGA, and now what, 15th, I believe,

yesterday at Torrey Pines. I mean, he's playing his best golf that he's ever played. And I just like the way his mindset is. I was talking to him a little bit out at U.S. Open and at Colonial, and he just seems like pretty chill. Like, it's just all going well right now, and he's not overworking. And I'm going to try to ride it. And he's won at this place before in pretty dramatic fashion, by the way. Yeah, it's pretty the last seven to win back in 2014.

No big deal. No big. All right, I'm going with a guy who also loves this place and just seems to play great every time he teased up, you know, finished, I believe, fifth at the U.S. Open. He was right. Yeah. He's done everything around the travelers, but when he claims that this is his ATM. Yeah.

Just prints money around here. So I've been cold as shit. I'm going to see if I can, you know, reverse this and go with my man, Paul Casey this week at the travelers. I hope he gets it done. God, I was surprised to see him this week at the U.S. So when he got the, when he made some birdies there late in the front nine, I was like, he's going to be right, right there. And then it just as quickly as it happened, he wasn't the only one that they got bit like that. but he just seems to be hanging around the hoop in those majors and just it's hard to break through, man.

It is, but it's going to be a great week of the Travelers. And next week, another incredible episode, one of my favorites growing up as a young kid. I know you're a huge hoops guy. We got the Hall of Famer, Jason Kidd in the house. Jay Kid, just no look diamond, talk about growing up in Oakland. I mean, all the different teams he played on it. I think this, I don't know if I even brought this up to him, but I think he's responsible for creating more millionaires in the world than,

maybe Bezos or Bill Gates because he took more players who were having medium careers in the NBA. They got on a team with Jason Kidd and like two years later they had a max deal. Like he makes everyone better. He got a lot of people paid more than just him. Maybe he'll make this podcast even better. That would be fantastic. We'll take handouts here. Throw us some oops and just let me dunk it over.

It's easy. All right. We'll talk to you on next week's golf subpar.