Subpar - CC Sabathia talks what to expect from New York fans at the Ryder Cup, How he's fared at Augusta National

Episode Date: June 24, 2025

On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar, Colt Knost and Drew Stoltz are joined by MLB Hall of Famer CC Sabathia for an exclusive interview from Fanatics Fest in New York City. The 2009 World Series Champion with the Yankees talks his expectations for New York fans at Bethpage Black, the best courses he has played in the Northeast and his favorite moments on the diamond during his storied career. --Download the Fanatics Sportsbook today and use code SUBPAR and you will get $200 in Bonus Bets when you sign up and bet $20 or more. https://joinfanatics.com/subpar Must be 21+. GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER, Connecticut residents call [phone],  Massachusetts residents call (800)-327-5050, New York residents call (877) 8-HOPENY, Maryland residents visit mdgamblinghelp.org.--Fujikura’s biggest sweepstakes ever is here. The Battle at Bethpage Grand Prize includes two Ryder Cup hospitality tickets, a $2,000 Visa gift card for travel, two limited-edition VENTUS shafts (USA or EU), a TaylorMade Qi10 driver, and Fujikura apparel bundles—over $13,000 in value. Enter now at https://fujikuragolf.com/battle-at-bethpage-sweepstakes Sweepstakes runs June 2 to July 31. Buy any Fujikura shaft during that time, upload your receipt, and get 100 bonus entries per shaft purchased.--Performance is in your hands with Golf Pride, the #1 grip in golf worldwide. Get 20% off a full set (up to 13 swing grips + 1 putter grip) with code SUBPAR20 at https://GolfPride.com — now through August 31. --Head to shadyrays.com and use code SUBPAR for 35% off premium polarized sunglasses: https://shadyrays.com/collections/green-wolf--The road to opportunity is often the road overlooked. That’s why Enterprise Mobility offers new roads to help drive your business forward. With mobility solutions like fleet management, flexible truck rental, and an unmatched global network, they can help your business find the right solutions. Their mobility experts find smarter ways to scale your business, so you’re not just growing bigger—you’re getting better. Find your road at enterprisemobility.com--Choose your style, pick your favorite Birdie Juice logo and shop from a line-up of top tier brands at shop.golf.com today!

The coolest story I could tell you about that team was after my very first win in the big leagues, I pitched in Detroit. We get on a plane, we fly to Baltimore, and they took me out to eat. We went out to eat. We go get drinks, and I had on like a sport coat, the suit. And I remember just guys coming up to me and stuff in my pockets, like stuff in money in my pocket, stuff in my pockets. We had just got mill money. And I woke up the next morning, I had $15,000, just like, in my pocket of guys just giving me gifts to my first win. All right, here we go.

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When I guess you want to call him the hometown kid? I mean, he's a New England guy. Keegan Bradley does it again. Captain Keegan Bradley. The question is, who's he going to be playing with at the Ryder Cup? Because he ain't going to be just doing the captain. Yeah, I mean, that's the big talk right now. It's like playing captain, playing captain. I don't, I mean, he moved up to ninth. There's still a lot golf left, of course. We got the Open Championship. We've got the FedEx Cup playoffs. Things can happen. Barring, just a complete dry stretch from Keegan. Like, this is the way I think it goes down and what we've been told it goes down. Captain normally comes in top six auto qualifiers. All right, guys, here's the list. You know, typically 7-8, 7-8-9-ish are pretty locked and it comes down to like,

you know, three spots or so. And you start debating. There's not a single dude in the top six. It's going to be like, we don't want you, Keegan. When he goes to the vice captains, they're going to say the exact same thing. And quite honestly, like, is there 12 better Americans right now? I think he'd be doing a, if it ended right now, I think he'd be doing himself a disservice by not picking himself. Like his main job has put the best 12 out there. He's one of them. Well, if you look at dad of golf, which I think is probably the most accurate rankings right now, he's the fifth highest ranked American.

Yeah. So I'm like, how do you, how do you not? I mean, I was texting with him yesterday. I was like, hey, take the captain hat off, but you're playing. I think you need to give this role to somebody else, and I think you need to just say, hey, I would like to do this at a later date. You know, talking with some people that have been a captain before,

and they said it's just so hard to do both. There's a reason Arnold Palmer was the last playing captain. Like, there's just so many obligations you have to do. And then besides that, trying to play and put yourself out there and get ready, I don't know what he's going to do, man. It's a, I mean, I guess it's a good thing that he's playing so great, but I don't know if they thought naming him captain, was ever going to lead to him possibly playing.

But right now, I mean, how do you not put him in there? He is just playing so good. And I got to tell you, that scene on 18 Slees, that was electric. I feel so bad for Tommy Fleetwood. I mean, he had it. And then to lose it the way he did. But for Kagan to win it, when Tommy Fleetwood missed the green on 18, before Keegan even hit Slees, it was one of the loudest roars I've ever hit.

The place went absolutely insane. And then when the ball took off in Scotty Valley and said, come on, baby. I mean, like the hair on my arms just stood up and then he threw a dart in there. It was awesome. Tommy Fleetwood's got a lot of fans. He's probably got more fans now.

I don't know anyone that doesn't like Tommy Fleetwood. He's about one of the nicest guys out there. But there wasn't a Tommy Fleetwood fan on property on 18 when that thing was going down. And I was rooting heavy for Keegan, let's be honest. But I was also in the back of my mind. Like, if he doesn't get it done, Tommy just needed to close it out. Like Keegan went and got it on 72nd, buried 15 also. but just pars from Tommy coming home

would have been enough to do it. And I was like, if Keegan is going to lose, it'd be great to see Tommy get one. You can just stop answering the questions. I mean, now this is this 42nd, top 10, without a win. And dude, I don't know if you saw the other clip of the winning putt from Keegan.

Tommy was on the side, obviously. At his arm, there's head in his arm, didn't watch, just listened for the crowd. And then, I mean, he couldn't even watch. And I was just like, man. And then guess what? got up and talked to the media and was super honest and

like you know we give a lot of shit to guys that aren't doing that if Tommy can do it in that scenario I don't know many guys that can't suck it up and go say something look he's as classy as they come and I said this we have to do these like CBS Sports HQ hits on the weekend before the coverage and when the weather

came in that morning and they changed a three since I said this is a horrendous break for Tommy Fleetwood because he was going to be in the final pairing okay Kegan was going to be in the next to last group yeah but when they went made it threes, that put Keegan in that final pairing alongside Tommy Fleetwood. And like you said, everyone was on Keegan's side. I thought that was a really bad break for Tommy.

But still, you got to go out there and finish it. I mean, the three putt the last, the club switch in the middle of 18. Yeah, that was weird, wasn't it? Like, they switched and didn't even really think or talk. Was that an adrenaline-based thing? You got to think they're kind of tweeners. Maybe like, hey, dude, this is the most fired up you've ever been. The wedge gets there.

He's lucky he pulled. Honestly, like, he didn't like it right off the blade. He's lucky he pulled it. If he had flagged it right out, I mean, that's going in the bunker. Good plug even. Yeah, most likely. Tough loss, but just an awesome win for Keegan, man. I'm so pumped for him and Scotty Vale.

They're great. It's going to be interested to see what happens over the next couple of months. But Sleese, I'm up here in New York right now. A little birthday trip, getting ready to become a man, as you say, in a couple of days. Congrats, buddy. Birth week. This is your birth week. And it's a big one.

You are officially joining the man club. What do you got? A couple more days. You go from being a little boy, little baby boy. to a grown-up man. We welcome you. With open arms. You're doing some good golf playing up there, too.

But we got to hit Bayonne last week, which was cool. That was sweet. Take the ferry over. That was a place I'd never been to. It had heard a lot about. That was sweet. Shout out to them for letting us out. And then you're still going.

Where are you got on the agenda? I'm back in the city, played Hudson National yesterday, which is unbelievable. Great golf course. Let me tell you this, Slice. I thought we came to New York to get out of the Arizona. heat. The heat index was a hundred and eleven degrees yesterday. I have, I don't know if, I almost think it was as bad as Malaysia when I used to play on tour. It was disgusting. I mean, all of us were just dying out there. Golf course is incredible, but this heat wave going through New York

right now, we're playing Liberty National today. It's supposed to be 102. That's not heat index. That's just the actual temperature. That's good. Walking around in Manhattan too on the concrete, it's cooler. And you get the sewage smell, which is always nice. The hot, the hot shit smell is a nice feature. Hey, give me 105 in Scottsdale every day compared to this shit up here. I mean, this humidity, dude, I can't handle it. I hate it. I don't miss that at all.

From living in Dallas, it is nasty right now, but the golf has been amazing. I've been using my Fujikura shafts, just hitting seeds down there, slapping our boy Ben Marsha Brown. I tell you what? The Battle at Bethpage Sweetsteaks. Fujikura's biggest sweepstakes ever. Grand Prize, two Rider Cup hospitality

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I like that. I like, what's the game? What do we got? We got a little, we've been playing a little high-low. So yesterday at Hudson National is myself and Buttery Bob versus Ben Marsh and our wonderful host at Hudson National named Tank. Tank is the man. We had a blast out there yesterday. Today we're mixing it up a little bit.

Not sure what the game's going to be, but I think everybody's playing a little hurt today. But you know what? We're going to rub some dirt on it. We're going to get on the boat. We're going to go out there, maybe jumping the Hudson to cool off a little bit. But, man, it's been an awesome trip. I love coming up here. It's great.

And then I head to Detroit tomorrow. The Rocket Classic. No longer the Rocket mortgage. They're just the Rocket now. The Rocket. Yes. The Rocket. Looking forward to it.

I got a hot pick in the oven. We've been sucking, by the way. We got to own up to it. I had Cam Young last week. Started off Incredible. I was like, oh, what a genius I am. Immediate tank for the remainder of the three days. Who'd you take last week?

Oh, Seth Strata. Seth was in last for a minute. Yeah. So we're not running hot, but this is how you get hot. Just need one. I did not have him as a top 50. If I'd have had that, we would have one. Honestly, fanatics, I don't want to be a hater, but a top 50 option would be nice.

What do you think Scotty would go off top 50? Oh, my God, yeah. Yeah. Oh, by the way, Scott, just another top seven or whatever again. Didn't do anything. Made it double and a triple. Yep, triple, dub. Didn't really do much for anything.

Almost wins. All right. Well, we're like a goldfish, okay? We have short memories. It's time to move on. Let's get ready for the ball. rocket. We actually talked before the show. We have the same pick, but I'm going to mix it up. I'm going to take a bullet here, and I'm going to go to my Audible, and I'm going top 20 plus

150 Cam Young. Starting to play better. The time is now. Trevor Roman told me Cam Young's going to win this week. He's normally right. So at least get me a top 20. Come on, Treve. Could you use that last week. Yeah. Maybe it's saving it for you. Maybe he's saving it for you. Good, good audible there. Omaha. Uh-huh. All right. Here's the one that you had, and I'm going with because this is a big one for me going all the way back to January. I made a bold prediction on this young man playing on our Ryder Cup team.

The time is now, Colt, if we're going to make that thing come to fruition. I'm taking Luke Clanton, top 20. That's plus 200. 34th last week. I went back and looked at his cards, a ton of birdies, a lot of bogeys. He made four bogeys on his closing nine. He could easily been in the top 20 this past week. But just getting his feet wet as a pro, getting acclimated.

People hit a lot of drivers on this. golf course in Detroit, at least the ones that have played well. He is driver incredible. I'm going to go, Luke Clanton, top 20. The Road to Beth Page starts this week. He's going to have to get hot. I love the pick. I don't know if I feel so good about the Ryder Cup thing anymore, but he's going to have to get

hot. It is a good golf course for him. Yeah, I mean, these guys, I mean, all these bunkers are like 285 to 300 to cover. They just ship it over the top of them, hit little wedges in. But it's going to be a great week up in Detroit, really looking forward to it. And I'm also looking forward to everyone here in our interview this week with the Hall of Famer, the legend, New York Yankee, Cici Sabathia, live from Fanatics Fest. Slaise, I didn't know what to expect when we got to New York City and went to the Javitt

Center for Fanatics Fest. It blew me away. That thing was unbelievable. It's the biggest production I think I've ever seen in my life. By the way, just the convention center itself, I was like, this has to be one of the biggest ones in the United States. And then you go in and every inch of the place is filled up with some sort of activity, a person.

I mean, the amount of like you just walk around and you're like, oh, there's Peyton. Oh, there's DJ Cal, like the amount of people that are there, the celebrities that are there, the security, the everything, Jay Z's in there. I mean, it was wild. Travis Scott. Travis Scott. We went up against them on the podcast for fan for, uh, studio audience. I was like, tough break for Trave and those guys, they're going to have nobody. Nobody.

One thing that I did notice, we did not see this live, but a video came out of it afterwards. Joe, they had the pitching, you know, the batting cage set up and you could do it in a pitch. I sent this to you, yeah. Yeah. Brady came in and threw a dart, by the way, of course. I think he played baseball in high school or he's good at everything. Joe Burrow, who you would expect to be a, to be a laser. It was, I mean, it wasn't 50 cent first pitch, Carl Lewis type stuff, but it wasn't, hey,

that's one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. I was blown away by that. You're talking about $200 million quarterback over here. They just kept hitting the side of the net. Like, couldn't even hit the target with a baseball. And not hard either. He wasn't like trying to throw gas. It was just like he was playing catch.

And he couldn't hit it. He couldn't throw it not into the net. And he threw it like seven times. Yeah. I was like, oh, Joe. Look, a tough season ahead for the Cincinnati Bengals. Tough break for Joe. You're not great.

You're not perfect at everything. He does have a new girlfriend, though. So congratulations, Joe. Could be a little weak in the knees. I like it. All right. Well, it was awesome. Thanks to Fanatics for having us out.

It was great. And I'm going to tell you this right now, Sla, and I mean this. This might be now in my top three subpart episodes, C.C. Sabathea. I thought it was that good. Oh, wow. I mean, he's one of the coolest dudes of all time. He is an absolute gym to play golf with.

I cannot wait for y'all to hear it. The man loves golf, obviously one of the best pitchers ever. Here he is. C.C. Sabathia, live from Fanatics on Golf Subpar. Hey, everybody come on in now. We got a good one. It's hot. We're on the big stage.

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Give it up for them. Come on, y'all. Perfect. Big things. Absolutely. All right. That's how we doing out there? I see we got a few Yankee fans in the house tonight.

Well, let's bring him up. The Hall of Famer, one of the best to ever do it. C.C. Sabathia. All right, let's get to it. C.C. first off, I know you love your golf. I do. Let's get to that right now. I looked up this morning. 7.7 index?

Yeah, I'll play more like an 11 most days, though. I like that. That's easy money right there. How often we play in these days? If the sun's out, I'm playing golf. So I usually don't play on the weekends, but five days a week, I'm at the golf course. Well, hold on, Slees, real quick. I got to address something then because I was looking at his handicap info on the gin app, and your last 20 scores go all the way back to like 20-24.

Are we posting all our scores, C.C.? I am. I post most of them. Post the ones he needs to. He didn't know rookie. Who are the baseball players you like playing golf with the most? Maybe like the easiest money out there. Who we got? No, I mean, I'm the easy money.

Code just said that. But, no, I love playing with Dexter Fowler. You guys know him. Aaron Hicks, I love playing with. He's the one that kind of got me in the golf. Russell Martin, Justin Upton, Chris Young. baseball players tend to turn into golfers, so there's no shortage of guys to play with when you retire.

They all turn into golfers, and they're all pretty good. What do the other people that don't pick up golf in retirement? Like, how do they kill their time? Exactly. What are you doing? You play a pickle ball or, you know what I'm saying? Like, so the way I picked it up was during COVID, you could either ride a bike or play golf to be outside. And I tried to ride a bike, and that didn't work out and went to the golf course and kind of never left, to be honest.

Give me your best round ever. My best round ever is at Westchester Country Club and I shot at 78. Okay. That is definitely not on the app. Before we get back to our interview with C.C. Sabathia, a quick note from Golf Pride. If your grip's not consistent, your swing won't be either. That's where Golf Pride's Align Max comes in. It's built with Rays Ridge technology that fits the natural shape of your hands,

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What's the best, I mean, this is some of the best golf in the world up here all around New York. I'm sure you played most of them. Maybe give me like top three, four C.C. Sabathia, they have favorite courses. This area? Yeah, like New York. greater in New York. All right. Wingfoot is definitely up there. I love Hudson National.

I'm playing there on Monday, first time. It's incredible. There's some views on Hudson where I take pictures and people on my Instagram are like, you in the Bahamas you wear, and I'm like, no, I'm in New York. So I love Hudson, and I'll give you a jersey. I love Hamilton Farms. Okay. I love so those are probably my top three up here, but there's so many good courses, due process. I heard about this due process. The process is nice. Nice. The process is nice. You got Trout National coming soon?

You joined that? Jersey. Yeah, I'll be in there. Not out. So I feel like the Northeast has the best golf in the country. Have you done the Long Island Circuit, like the Shinnock's National? I've done the Shinnock National Sabonic Circuit. Beth Page.

Yeah. I want to get back to Pine Valley. Somebody took me to Pine Valley. My very first year of playing golf, and it was the worst day of my life. Worst day? Yes. If you're a bad day in Pine Valley? You're a new golfer.

going to Pine Valley. It is hard. It's hard. So I definitely need to go back and try that out again. Give me a bucket list golf course you haven't played. You've played everywhere. Yeah. That was a dumb question. Your Ccci's a Bapia. It was a stupid question. You know where I would love to play. Have you played Augusta? I played Augusta twice. That would have come up if he hadn't. I would love to go on an Ireland trip. Yeah. I haven't done that yet. Roll County down. Yeah. I would love to do it like an Ireland trip. But here, I would love to, I love whistling straights too.

Yeah, we just went up there. Yeah, it's cool. That place is awesome. It is awesome. I mean, I would love to do that as a destination. I'll tell you something cool that's coming here, not too long, and I know you love to go to sporting events and things like that. Now you're diehard golfer, the Ryder Cup coming to bed page.

Is that something you might check out? I mean, it's going to be rowdy. I'll definitely be a fan of, you know, U.S. during the Rider Cup. I want to try to play if they have like a pro-am or something. I know they do that. They do on Thursday before. Yeah, I need to get into that. call Keegan for you.

Please. We'll get you in there. How do you think these New York fans? He's a Boston guy, though. I don't know if he's going. Hey, he's a sports guy. I promise you. He'd love to have you there.

How do you think these New York fans are going to be at the Ryder Cup? Oh, they're going to turn up. It's going to be so much fun to see these New York fans, these Northeast fans, golf fans, kind of turn up for Team USA. That course is beautiful, incredibly hard, but I know those guys are, you know, tear it up, but I think it's going to be a lot of fun to watch. It's going to be a lot of fun. Fans are ruthless out there, as you know, being a Yankee.

Yankees just lost six in a row. I know they won yesterday. They won yesterday. They won yesterday. I was sneaky open. They lost yesterday, just so we can talk about it seven in a row. They're on a winning streak now. But seriously, what's it like? I mean, I know you growing up, you played all kinds of sports, but to play for the Yankees, to wear the pinch drives, what you got on right now. I mean, how cool is that? It is cool. And it's something, like, I didn't grow up a Yankee, right?

So I didn't appreciate that. Like, playing against the Yankees coming up in that Cleveland organization, you want to beat the Yankees. I hated Derek Jeter until I knew them. You know, like I didn't want to be a part of the evil empire. And then you come over and you understand what it's like and how, you know, heavy it is to put on the pinstripes, how hard it is. And then when you have a chance to win and have success here, there's nothing like it. But when I was a free agent, I tried everything I could not to come to New York City.

I'm a West Coast guy. Thought I will play for the Dodgers, angels, whatever. But I'm so glad that I came here was the best decision I ever made in my life. And I'll never leave the city. I love these fans and that organization. It's like family. So, yeah, I mean, this is my home. And I fought it so hard, but, you know, this is my favorite home.

I had no idea you did, like, you fought it. I knew you're a West Coast kid, but I was like, I thought it was like every kid's dream, grow up, play for the Yankees. So what? You were looking to be like a Dodger or something like? Yeah, I wanted to beat the Yankees. You know, and we had just played the Yankees in the DS in 07. We, you know, we kind of put them out in 07.

So it was like, that's a pride thing. You know, I didn't come up in this organization. When you come up in this organization, like an Aaron Judge, like a Derry Jeter, like a Horacea, then you understand what it is to be a Yankee. Outside looking in, you just want to beat him until you get into organization. That's so cool. I was actually, I watched an interview you did with Dan Patrick earlier this year, and he asked you the best player you ever played with.

And you said, hands down, Alex Rodriguez. Hands down. Not even close. Tell me why. He's just the smartest guy ever played with. You know, there would be times where, you know, I'd be in the sixth inning and say somebody like Delman Young is coming up to hit, and he'd be like, hey, he took the first two fastballs at bat.

He's going to be swinging right here, throw a change up. So, you know, just stuff like that, the way he watched the game. Obviously, his athletic ability is off the charts, but he's a baseball savant, and I've never played with a guy that had that high of an IQ and that, you know, physically gifted. For all your career, if you had the game on the line, two outs, the bottom of the ninth, the guy's got to get a hit. Is he the guy you'd pick?

Derek Jeter. Jeter on that hitter. All day. There you go. Before we get back to our interview with C.C. Sabathia, a quick note from our friends at Shady Rays. Shady Rays offers high-performance sunglasses built with golfers and mine. The Green Wolf Collection has semi-polarized lenses to cut glare while increasing clarity. Enhances contrast on the course with tent designed to enhance readability.

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Y'all got superstitions. Give me like the pregame ritual for C.C. Sabathia. So my pregame, the days that I pitched were pretty intense. So I got to, everything was about time. I had to do everything at the same time. So I woke up every morning in between 9, 15, and 9.30. Same breakfast. You lazy ass.

9.15, 9.30 on game days. Same breakfast. It would be like grits, eggs, and bacon my wife would make. If I was on the road, I would get something kind of similar. Get to the park about 3 o'clock. And I had to be in the hot tank at like 4.15. The hot tank? Yeah, like the hot tub. Yeah.

Or hot tub. Okay. 445, I'm getting a stretch. By 520, I'm in the wait room doing everything. And I have to have my unit. form on and walk out of the door at 638 is when I walk out of the door. 638. 638 specific time to be ready to go to the game. What happens if one of those rituals gets off?

I'm probably going to have seven runs in the first inning. That's crazy. Where did the 52 come from? You know what? The 52 came from when I was in Cleveland, my very first spring training as a big leaguer, I was 19 years old. And when you go to spring training as a young guy, you think you're going to get number 97, number 84, whatever.

and then my locker was number 52. And the first thing I was like, I was like, oh, I'm making the team. Like, they think I can make the team. So 52 was in my locker and I just kind of fell in love with it. No other player was number 52 at the time. And I just thought I could make it my own. You know, older guys come from different teams and they take your number, and there was no number 52.

So I'm like, this can be my number. And it was just the number that they put in my locker. You talk about your locker. So with golf, we talk about all the days, like trying to get to the PGA tour, we call mini tours, jicky jacks, whatever. You spent three years in the minors. Give me some good minor league stories because that stuff's wild. It is.

It's like being in the frat. And I got to the minor leagues at 17 years old. So, I mean, you know, I was always the youngest guy on every team. I got to AA. I was 18, and we had an 18-hour bus ride from Akron, Ohio, to Portland, Maine. And I'm obviously the same size I am, you know, now. at 18 and they made me double up. So I had to ride 18 hours on the bus next to someone. So what I did was just took all my stuff laid in in the middle of the row and that's where

I slept for the bus rides. And that's how I slept on the bus ride being the youngest guy. Yeah. Damn. That's jickeys. That's the jickeys. That's baseball right there. Talk to me about like coming up when you were you come, you get out of the minor leagues. You go to the Indians. 20 years old, in a locker room, grown men. guys with kids, things like that. How do they receive a young 20-old like? I want to know what the call was like. When you found out you were going up.

You know what? So in spring training in 2001, Charlie Manuel told me, he was like, if you come in the spring training in shape, you pitch well, you're going to make the team. That's what I did. Came in in shape. I pitched well,

and he had to fight to get me on that team. Mark Shapiro was the GM at the time. Mark Shapiro was assistant GM. Dano Dow was a GM. They wanted me to have one more year in the minor leagues of seasoning. I was 20 years old. It made sense.

But Charlie had kept that, made that promise to me and kept it. And the very last day, the team left. Like, they were leaving. They hadn't told me anything if I made a team or nothing. I was taking my dad to the airport that day. And I started crying because I was like, he told me, if I pitched well, I was going to make the team. And we're sitting at a gas station in Orlando.

And Charlie called me. And he goes, hey, I just wanted you to know, you're going to stay a couple of extra days down in spring training, but on Sunday, you're going to come up and make your start, and that's going to be your debut. So it's pretty cool that I got that call with my dad. After crying, thinking I didn't make the team, and, you know, I'm 20 years old, and like you said, I mean, so many different grown men, it was, you know, Dave Berba, Ellis Berks, Chuck Finley, Robbie Alamar, Jim Tomey was on that team.

I'm the youngest guy on a team by 10 years, and they all took care of me. I mean, they treated me like a little brother. They raised me. They, you know, taught me how to be a professional. The coolest story I could tell you about that team was after my very first win in the big leagues, I pitched in Detroit, we get on a plane, we fly to Baltimore, and they took me out to eat. We went out to eat. We go get drinks, and I had on like a sport coat, the suit, and I remember just guys coming up to me and stuff in my pockets, like stuff in money in my pocket, stuff in my pockets. We had just got mill money.

And I woke up the next morning, I had $15,000, just like in my pocket of guys just giving me gifts to my first win. So I got called up to like a team that was super cool. They welcomed me, raised me, and that's the reason why I was able to come a festival. I thought there was like rookie hazing. Like, hey, grab the bags. You got a paper dinner. They just stuffed 15 grand in your pocket. Those guys were really cool.

First off, I should have worn a sport coat. Second, when you signed a $161 million deal, did you pay them back? My goodness. So obviously, the Stanley Cup finals just got over. We've been seeing the Florida Panthers going crazy with the Stanley Cup celebrating. Tell me about after the World Series. What was the celebration like? Man, after the World Series, celebration was great.

I mean, obviously we won that night. We all went to One Oak after that. We had a big party. But two days later, we had the parade, which was incredible. Jay-Z performed at the parade. So right after the parade, he performs. The Knicks are playing the Cavs. LeBron is in the garden.

We go to the garden, watch the game. And then after that, we go to the 40-40 and have a party. I mean, we partied all night. It was one of the best nights of my life. There's nothing like winning a championship in New York. I can't imagine. Canyon to Heroes, you know, it's like everything that you dream about. And, you know, to have one of those kind of New York nights, J.Z. LeBron, like, it was pretty cool.

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That's clearly the highlight of anybody's career, winning the championship, but as you look back now, you're going into the Hall of Fame. Are there any other, like, highlights or like specific moments that stand out to you when you reflect back on your career? You know what's crazy? They're not my, you know, career accomplishments. When I think about like my career and who I got a chance to play with, like having a chance to watch Derek Jeter get 3,000 hits and be a part of that, watching A-Roy get 3,000 hits, watching Mo get 600 saves, like, I'm a baseball fan. And to play with those guys, to play with Ichero, those are the things that I always think about, you know, not so much myself and, you know, my accomplishments, but like who I got a chance to play.

you'll play with. I thought it was so cool. One of the coolest moments I've seen in baseball is when Mariano Rivera had his last trip to the mound. And Jeter and Andy Pettittitt came out and got him. And everybody was crying, right? That's so cool. They're crying. We crying in the dugout. Like, it was one of those cool moments. And those are the things that I remember most, more so than myself out there performing. But how about this? You're going into the Hall of Fame, okay, on July 27th. Your birthday is July 21st. Yeah. I mean, how about that for a birthday president? Yeah. And every year now, right? the rest of my life. I get a chance to kind of celebrate my birthday with the best baseball players

ever walk to earth. It's a blessing for sure. Eighty-six percent of the vote. Who the hell were the 14? Hey, I don't worry about that. I love the 86%. I tell you, I think you do have a bone to pick with the Hall of Fame Committee, though, because I look at your write-up about it, like summarizing your career. All right. They mentioned 251 wins. They mentioned 3,093 strikeouts. Zero mention of your three career bombs. Not one mention of your bomb. Oh, that was, I know you know who they were off of. Oh, yeah.

Chanho Park, Homer Bailey, and it looked, some Ramirez. I can't think it'll get the kid's name, but his last name was a scrub. He wasn't the scrum. Two solo shots and one with a batter on. That's nice. And, I mean, yeah, those are my career highlights. Like, I grew up a hitter. You know, we all played the game to hit.

And my very first home run, I grew up a Ken Grub, Rivie Junior fan. The very first home run I hit, it was over his head, dead center field. So, like, I'm, I hit the ball and I get a chance to see him take off running after it. And, like, it clears the fence. So it's like one of those cool moments that I'll never forget for sure. Is that the worst feeling as a pitcher is to give up a bomb to another pitcher? Let me tell you something.

I don't know, because I never gave up a bomb to another. Not one? No. That's nice. That ain't happening. So, yeah, it's got to be a horrible feeling. It sounds like it'd be shitty. Yes.

Do you wish you got to hit more or no? Absolutely. I love hitting. I mean, especially in the National League, just even taking BP. Just getting a chance to take BP every day. You feel like an athlete. You feel like you're a part of the team. And, you know, when I was that year in Milwaukee,

they would tell me in the fifth or six inning, hey, go put your cleats on. You might get a chance to pinch hit. That, you know, they get the judges going. I love it. Like, you're in the American League, and you only pitch once every fifth day. You know those other four days.

You're there as a spectator. Nationally, you may get a chance to pinch run, get in the game. So it was a lot of fun. You were a big time hitter in high school, too, right? I was, yeah. Yeah, so that's got to be disappointing when you get up there and, like, oh, I don't get to do that anymore.

I'm a P-O-O, yeah. I tell you what else I didn't know in high school? You were a nice tied-in. You got an offer to UCLA to go play tied-in? Yes, yeah. Did you even get close to considering that? I did. Like, I wanted to play football.

I thought I was a football player. I played basketball in high school, too. grew up playing soccer. But I thought that my career path was going to be in the NFL. My grandmother passed halfway through my senior year, so it was just me and my mom. So I got drafted, and the Indians offered me a million dollars. I was like, I got to take the money. So I literally went and played baseball to take the money, and I was thinking,

if this doesn't work out, I could always fall back and go back to college. Chris Winky, I just did that. So there was an example there. So I'm like, hey, take this money, see how it works out. And then three years later, I was in the big league. Chris Winkie was a freshman at 28 years old. Yes, he won the Heism. I heard you had a mom.

as a tight end though. No rock, no block, baby. I mean at least five or to seven balls a game, Russ. I ain't blocking for nobody. That's beautiful. Rock, no block. Who do we got? Who's in the NFL that right now that you feel like resembles mirrors a young CC on the field? Oh, man. I couldn't, these new tight ends are, I mean, they are a hybrid of a receiver in the tight end. I wasn't that. I was more of a traditional Tony Gonzalez, like big blocking kind of type. I mean, I won't put myself in a Hall of Famers category, but like that type of like big blocking, like catching tight in. Travis Kelsey. It's like Jay Long.

You know what I'm saying? Those type of guy. Yeah, those type of. Dan Campbell, you ever heard of him? Oh, man. But you're, you're a sports fan, right? I am. Huge.

I mean, you're at home with the family at night. What's your favorite thing to watch other than baseball? I mean, whatever's on. Right now, I mean, I'm like I just told you guys, I grew up playing soccer. I was huge European soccer fan, Premier League, whatever, but gone. is taking over my life. Love this. All I watch is golf now.

I usually go on a big trip and go watch some soccer matches. None of that happened this year. It's all golf all the time. But yeah, I'm a huge, huge sports fanatic. I watch everything, and I'm pretty much into every sport. Well, make sure you tune into the Travelers Championship this weekend on CBS 3 to 6 Eastern. Bro, you do such a good job. Turn up the broadcast.

If you guys watch the broadcast, Cole does such a good job out there. I love it. Appreciate it. Thank you. That's very nice of you. Oh, man. Make sure we clip that part. You didn't get into golf until you retired, correct?

Yeah. Could you imagine now, like, if you love golf the way you do now, going back, would you be one of the guys that like the Braves lineup and they travel with their clubs and go play? Oh, yeah, absolutely. And even when I did play Andy Pettettit was a huge golfer. And he would play, and Roger Clemens, those guys, I just wasn't into it. And I wish I had, man. And now, and I even tell my youngest kid, he's 14, and I see him shooting hoops and going to the park to play basketball.

I'm like, bro, go to the driver range. After 30, you ain't shooting no more jumpers. You ain't going to no parks to play basketball, get that swing right. By the way, I heard he's got some game, too. Yeah, I heard he's nice. A little bit. Oh, boy. I like that.

Well, let's get to the E9 here. Have a little fun with C.C. Let's bring this question back right now because he's had such an unbelievable career. 19 years in the MLB, Hall of Famer. There's a movie about C.C. Sabathia. Who plays you? Man, somebody just asked me this. I said, Forrest Whitaker.

Okay. Oh, yeah. I like that. We go back in time, Forrest Whitaker. A little bit. Yeah. I'll give you this a bonus when this doesn't count, but I feel like we got a lot of Yankee fans out here,

baseball related. Give me one hitter that you, like, feared the most. I don't want to say fear, but, like, it gave you the most concern when he came up. Yeah, no, I mean, my problem was I never feared anybody. That was a problem. But the guys that gave me the most problem was Miguel Cabrera, Mani Ramirez, and Evan Longoria.

Man. I could never figure those three out. All right. So give me a big name guy that you absolutely owned. King Griffey Jr. And I'm going to tell you to start. story why my very first game that first year you guys talked about when i made the team the first game i ever pitched in as a professional kind of big leagher was against Cincinnati reds and can't

give you junior was the first batter i faced and this is 19 this is 2001 so all i'm thinking in my head is i'm about to call everybody back home and tell him i struck out king grievey junior first pitch i throw i throw it as hard as i can and i hit him right in the middle of the three and the zero on his back. And he was so mad, so mad. And I felt like I wanted to cry. I wanted to go run, give him a hug, my favorite player. But after that, he remembered that. So after that, like, every time I face him, he was always, like, giving me a little more space. So I never had a problem with him. Should have told me it was on purpose now. Yeah, did you tell him? Hey, that was accident. No, I went on purpose. Yeah, let him think. Let him think. I'll give you one more.

This is unrelated to the stuff. But give me, on that same note, you hit a guy. If one guy was going to charge the mound that you ever played against. Who would you be the most scared of to come at you? I mean, you're a big boy, but... Yeah, let me think about that. It would probably be somebody like Russell Martin. One of those guys that are like UFC, like grapplers, or maybe Prince Fielder.

He'd be tough. He'd probably be Prince. He's low to the earth. Prince Fielder is thick. He could get you on the ground. You just pitched against him yesterday. Didn't you down in Birmingham? He was on your team?

He was on my team. That's a cool deal. Let's run derby, yeah. Talk about that a little bit, because as Dexter told us about it last night, it's not like a sweet deal. Yeah, we went down and we did a game down in Juneteenth, and Rick Willfield in Alabama. It's the oldest baseball field in America. Out of the 246 Hall of Famers, 186 of them played on that field. Wow.

Willie May started on that field. Hank Aaron played there. Satchel Page started games there. So we went down. We refurbished it last year. The Giants and the Cardinals played a game there last year. year and we didn't want to be a one-off. That community is so rich in baseball history. We wanted to go back down there. We took some of the former players of my era and we formed the East

West Classic, which is an old Negro League game that they used to play and they barnstorming around the country. And we took it down to Rickwood. We had a lot of fun. We played five innings yesterday and we brought the community out, had a like a family style barbecue and it felt like a family union. We plan on doing that every year now and kind of taking over Juneteenth and doing that every year. That's sick. How did you throw it? Man, it was good. I wanted to see a video. I felt like I was throwing hard, but I don't think it couldn't have been over 85. Obviously, you played in one of the greatest cities in the world, one of the greatest sports cities right here in New York, but give me your favorite road city.

Favorite, you know my favorite road city? Chicago in the summertime and Kansas City. Kansas City. Love the barbecue. Oh, because of the food. Did you have a good story? You took Jeter out there. Wasn't there some theater story you took them out? So, Jeet, there's my favorite so food restaurant out there's called Peach Tree restaurant. And I finally convinced him to go. We went for lunch one day. And it's a heavy meal.

I mean, you know, it's fried chicken and fried fish and everything. So we go there, we have lunch. He gets five hits. He goes five for five. And he's the most superstition person I ever met in my life. Did the same things every single day. So I'm thinking, you know, five of five, we're all good. The next morning he calls me at like 10 o'clock.

He's like, hey, what time we're leaving? I'm like, leaving for what? He's like, we got to go back to Peachtree. I'm like, I can't eat that again. He's like, no, we got to go back. Went back. He gets four hits again. I couldn't get off the couch.

I'm like sleep on the couch the whole game. And he's, you know, back at it. So everything that he did, if he did it well, we had to do it again. Nine hits and two games. Nine hits and two games off Peace Street. He didn't have him like catering flying around. I'm surprised he didn't build one in the Bronx. All right.

All right. We talked about your love for sports, all sports. And you also go to a lot of sports. You just at the Knicks game, saw you at the playoff games down there. Give me the best sporting event you've ever attended as a spectator. Man, the best sporting of the Masters. Really? Yeah.

How many times you've been? Four times. Just the hospitality that they do for that week. I mean, it's incredible being able to walk the course, see the course. But I think, yeah, I think the Masters is the best sporting event that I've been to alive, for sure. And you played it. Yeah, we mentioned the Rider Cup, though. Have you ever been to one?

I've never been to the Rider Cup. So I'm excited for that. You might be changing your opinion here in a couple of months. All right. I want to go to a World Cup match, too. I want to go to some World Cup. But next year, we have the World Cup here. So hopefully that'll be up there on the list, too.

Yeah, the Rider Cup's one. I know he and I are looking forward to. We've been in a lot of golf stuff. But this one's going to be in New York. Here in New York. Coming off a loss. Yeah. All this stuff.

What did you shoot when you went to Augusta, by the way? The last time I went, I shot 81. Yeah. Nice. There you go. If I never go back, I'm happy. But did you post it? You can't post it there. We play a lot of golf with Mark Mulder, former MLB pitcher back in the day.

Great player. And he told me, warming up at Yankee Stadium as a road team was one of the hardest things ever. Like the fans are just on him all over. What's the toughest bullpen you ever warmed up in? It would be the old Yankee Stadium, like what Mark's talking about. He's talking about the old Yankee Stadium where it was the monument. Park was in the park and you had to walk by Babe Ruth's monument. You had to walk by Lou Gehrig's monument. I remember pitching there one time and Clemens was starting and he's up there doing his

thing and I'm walking up to the bullpen. You see all these monuments and retired numbers and the game was over when I walked to the bullpen. I was already intimidated. It was already lost. So just that bullpen with that, like when you know what you're walking into and those ghosts, like as a visitor, it was tough. He told a great story how I think it was the ALCS, Oakland at the Yankees. He's warming up before game three or whatever. And there's a young kid up there probably nine years old. He's like, Mr. Mulder, Mr. Mulder.

And he keeps ignoring him. He keeps yelling at him. And he turns around and he goes, F you! They teach him young. Oh, yeah. Boston was tough too. Boston was tough. Philly was tough as a Yankee.

But the old Yankee Stadium was nothing like it. All right, here we go. You spent 19 years in the bigs, a couple of the minors. a lot of time in locker rooms, planes, club houses, best prank you ever saw or were involved in. Man, the best prank that, so Brett Gardner is one of my best friends. We played 11 years together, and he's the best pranker I've ever been around ever in my life. But the best prank that me and him ever pulled off was it was this kid, Clint Frazier, that we had as an outfielder. And he loved shoes.

Jordan's, he was a big kind of sneaker head. and I had Jordan send me an official letterhead, and me and Garty typed up the letter, like officially welcomed him to Jordan, and he bought it like hook, line, and sick. We had the whole clubhouse in on it, and we ran that joke for like a week, man. That hurts.

It was, like by the end of it, I was, I felt really bad. It was like a dream situation. He was telling everybody that Jordan. By the end of it, I felt so bad. And it was official, like, I got the official letterhead, I got everything, and we had the whole squad in on it. We had the coaches, the trainers, everybody. It was good.

How many pairs of Jordans do you have? I mean. Is a guess. Don't be shy. You got to have like a whole room forward to the house, don't you? Over 3,000 pair probably? 3,000? Yeah, easy.

I'm guessing you don't wear size nine. All right. Last one for me. I was told by a former baseball player to ask you about the hit by pitch story with Tampa Bay. Okay. Yeah, that's good. Fire away. I have no idea what this is, by the way.

Yeah. We're playing Tampa. It's the end of the year. I had an incentive clause in my contract that if I pitched 160 innings that I would get a $500,000 bonus. I'm six innings away from that bonus. We're playing Tampa in Tampa.

And I start the game, and I'm pitching well. I'm into the fifth inning. I think the game's like two to nothing. We come to the top of the sixth, and my catcher is Austin Romine. I'm really close with Austin Romine. I'm always close with all of my catchers. One of their guys threw a ball close at his head, and I lost it.

I ran out there, was jabbing, talking, saying whatever I was going to say, and I knew I was only three outs away from this bonus. And, you know, I come back in the dugout, and I'm fuming. And Larry Rothschild is our pitching coach. He's like, hey, don't do nothing. You're pitching good. Let's win the game. And I look at them and I didn't say nothing.

And Garty comes down, he's like, bro, you bet not do it. And all I told him, I was like, be ready to fight. So I go back out, I walk out, and they're catchers, the next guy that's hitting. So I go out, throw the hardest, at this point in my career, I can't throw a ball over 90. Through the hardest ball I threw all year, I hit him 94, and I hit him, like, right in the hip. And all their dugout is kind of yelling and blah, blah, blah. And I pointed at their manager and just, you know, gave him a little word and kind of told him, you know, that was for him. and walked off.

And at the time, I felt like I did the right thing. And I went upstairs, and I text Amber right away. And I was like, did I do the right thing? And she was like, yes, you were a beast. And all my teammates came in and reaffirmed me that I did the right thing. But the Yankees ended up giving me the $500,000 bonus after. But, yeah, I mean, I gave a 500 grand to protect my teammate. That's awesome, man.

That's a great teammate right there. That's a teammate. And you ended up getting it. That's awesome. That's awesome. All right. Last E-9 from me, but you know, you famously lost a lot of weight back of the day. You're very slim.

Maintained your slimness, but I know you used to just smash Captain Crunch, right? I need to know the most that you ever took down in a single sitting. I could eat like four or five boxes at a time on Captain Crunk. That's, um, that's, you know what's crazy is that it's like a rat? It's like passed down like my kids can too now. Like my youngest son can probably eat four boxes of Captain Crunch. Boxes. Boxes not bulls.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Boxes. Whole milk? No, I'm 2%. Okay. Costco, you got to hit Costco for that. At the peak, like, it would be like the Costco bag and like two or three of them. Four or five.

Okay. That's unbelievable. Joey Chestnut. Deal with that. Yeah, suck on that. Hey, before we let you get out of it, I know one thing you've started working with, Eastside Golf, I think you want to talk about that a little bit. It's really cool kind of movement that's going on. Yeah, I mean, I just think what, you know, the demographic of golf is kind of changed, right?

Like, after COVID, there's a bunch of people playing golf. And Eastside has been kind of that gateway and that catalyst for, you know, people that want to try to get into it. So they have a cool brand. They're ran by Earl and Elijah Wan, who, you know, do a great job. Two golfers that play at Morehouse. And, you know, I'm super supportive of, you know, everything they got going on. So I just love the movement and, you know, everybody that's playing golf and, you know, kind of how it's been opened up to more people. That's awesome, man.

Well, listen, you're one of the best to every. do it. You're also one of the classiest to ever do it. It's so cool to sit here with you. Congratulations on the Hall of Fame, man. We're so proud of you. Thank you, guys. I'm so glad I can finally do this, man. Appreciate you, man. We'll do it again for sure. And we'll play some golf. Love it. All right. That was the Hall of Famer, C.C. Sabathia, joining us on Golf Subpar live from Fanatics Fest. What a dude he is, man. How about the story when he was a rookie and gets called up to the Yankees

and they just start stuffing his sport coat with thousands of dollars? Yeah, rookie hazing is a little different than I remember. in the day. Nice team to get drafted to. Normally it was like, hey, hey, Rook, get my luggage. Hey, Rook, go pay for dinner. Not up in here. Unbelievable. He's like 15,000 in a

sport coat. I got to start wearing a sport coat more often. And then he signs for 161 million. No big deal. You don't need it anymore at that point. How about he gets the 500,000 bonus after the fact? Yeah. Which that's a cool story about what, like, that just shows what kind of a teammate he is. And then he ended up actually getting it. Props to them

too, by the way, for doing that. That was a classy move and really cool. And like you said, that shows you how good of a teammate he was, how much they appreciate him. But, man, I appreciate him sitting down with us. That was awesome. That was awesome. We had a way bigger crowd than I thought. Obviously, they're huge subpar fans up there in New York.

Yeah, a lot of subpar jerseys. Not a lot of Yankees jersey. Yeah. Just a little bit. But July 27th, man, going in the Hall of Fame, first ballot. Congrats to him. Just an incredible career. Loves his golf.

And I love sitting down with that, man. loves his cap and crunch how about that four boxes I knew like back in the day they made him like lose a bunch of weight

because he's having knee problems all this type of stuff and he lost a ton of weight quick and they're like what'd you do he was like stop eating Captain Crunch

I was like I mean I got how much are you eating I can eat five bowls or five not bowls five boxes boxes in a I mean that's that's that's talent I want to pull it up

I want to see how many calories that is but he didn't do 2% milk He didn't go the whole. Right, dude, it's a light. It's a light bowl. Why don't you go dock down one bowl of those things and then tell me how you feel? Tell me if you think you'd get to five.

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I love that. Happy birthday, bud. Enjoy it. Welcome to the Brotherhood of being a man. Yeah, I'm going to be a grumpy old man on the next episode. But a lot of fun, man. Looking forward to going to playing some more golf up here in New York City. Thanks to Liberty National and Hudson National for hosting us.

It's been awesome. It's been hotter and shit, but it is what it is. And we'll talk to you on next week's so far.