Subpar - Chez Reavie Interview: What it's like staying in the Crow's Nest at Augusta National, the influence of statistics on his game

Episode Date: September 29, 2020

On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar, two-time PGA Tour winner Chez Reavie joins former PGA Tour pro Colt Knost and his close friend and on course rival Drew Stoltz for an exclusive, in-studio interview. The winner of the 2019 Travelers Championship talks what it was really like staying in the Crow's Nest at Augusta National, if it's tougher to get your Tour card or keep it, and the absurd amount of career holes-in-one he has had.

Hello world. Welcome to another episode of Golf Subpar. Colt Nost and Drew Stoltz. Just wrapped up the Corrales Puntacana championship slees. Hudson Swoff or Big Hud, my boy. Punta. Kana. Absolutely. Good to see HUD back on the board, dude.

Did it pretty spectacular what he did. He was the guy that came out, had all the talent in the world. Still does have all the talent in the world. Little injury problem. Been playing on a major medical. He got this done this week. Two starts left on his major medical. Like, you've been on one of those before.

I mean, that's hard to do. When the clock's ticking and you know, exactly what you have to do and exactly how many starts you have a level how hard is that to to like try to put that to the side and be like I'm just going to play golf this week knowing that that's at the start it's not bad because it's just kind of business as usual but when you start get start getting down you're like oh i got three starts left i got two starts left oh god start doing the math like are i need a top five or i need a solo third or it's stressful and you know he he gave a lot of credit to sports psychologist for helping him out um he played unbelievable all

week you know was in cruise control with nine holes to play and then had a little little disaster on the back nine, but what a clutch birdie on 17 and an unbelievable part put for the win on 18. Yeah, it looked like it was going to be a little snooze fest going into that back nine. He's in full control, four shots up. Like you said, quick double, quick birdie by McKinsey Hughes. Tyler McCumber was in the mix at the end. And coming off of that bogey, that shot he hit on 17 was pretty spectacular. The wind was blowing.

That's not an easy hole to get close to. And then he makes the put. And then 18 still gave himself some stress with a two put from down on that lower tier. But props to him, man, he did a pretty incredible. And just looking at him, he's the guy expected. Now that the weights off his shoulder, like watching him play yesterday. I was like, how on the shit is this guy two bad tournaments away from not playing on tour? Like he looks unbelievable.

The way he swings it, how hard he hits it. He looks like he's the total deal. So maybe now that he's got that out of the way, he kind of blows up here. Yeah, picks up his second win on the PJ tour. And I think things are just going to continue to get better for Hudson. Like you said, he's got all the talent in the world. Looks like his game should really suit well in the big tournaments. Like, I mean, he's a, he's a guy that should contend to majors and stuff like that.

So I'm happy for him. Really cool to see. You know, being a Georgia Bulldog gets the invite to Augusta now. That's always special for him. Yeah, how about that? No stress anymore for him. He gets all the things that go with it. Typically, this is an opposite field event.

You know, you get the win. You get the exemption, but you don't get the masters. You don't get all the stuff that comes with winning normal events. And this year, he does. And also, he's a benefactor of, like, the COVID, like, you know, intermission there where they weren't playing for a while because we had him on the radio today. He actually, at the point that they stopped play, He had one more start left on his major medical, and he needed 19 points to keep his card.

And so at that time, all the guys around major medicals, the tour went to him and said, hey, guys, here's the options you have. You can either keep playing, and he got the same amount of starts, same amount of points, or you can forfeit all your points that you've gotten and regain those starts. For guys that played five events and missed all five cuts, like, of course, dude, give me my five starts back. I didn't do anything. But he was in a spot where like 19 points? What is that?

What type of finish is that to get 19? Top 25. Top 25, top 30. Yeah. I mean, he was in a tough situation, like you said, because he had one left to do 19, or he can get it back, and he can get seven starts to get 105. Which is no slam dunk. You get seven.

I mean, you got more chances that have one great week like you just did, but also, like top 25. If you pick the right event, like, you know, that's not, you know, that's not some crazy week. If you go out and have a bad week, you're done. Yeah. So that's a problem. So at least you have seven. So what a cool story, though. So happy for the guy.

He is all time. But that was not the only major golf going on in the world. Not at all. You had participated in your 37th member guest of the season down Arizona Country Club. Yes, yes. The eyes of the golf world were upon us. Did the sleeves bring it? In what way?

Scoreboard wise? No. I did exactly what I do in most of these things, which is make a ton of pars, occasional, battering a few birdies and a couple of buggies, nothing, but energy wise and off the course, my intangibles in these things. That's what you signed me up for. You bring me in, I'm going to try to play good golf. I got a handicap that I can't play to right now.

But I tell you what, in the round and off course, nobody. Nobody brings more to the table than me. See, that's, I agree with you. And that's how I feel when I go to these things. Like, yeah, I mean, we can play good golf, but it's going to be boring. Like, we're here to have fun. Our team has the most fun. Yeah, and I'm not bringing my track man to the, you know what I mean?

If I get in a few swings before our first match, like I'll be, cool, I'm pretty loose now. I didn't hit one practice spot the whole week. I just go there to have fun. These things are so fun. You get the right partner, the right group. Member guest golf is the best. Although, dude, you mentioned I played 37 of these. I am a little bit worn out.

My body after these freaking things, too. Dude, like, I feel so bad for my body doesn't know what it wants, what I wanted to do. I'm sending it up. I'm sending it down. I'm sideways, left, right. I'm all over the place. My body's got to be like, dude, just tell me what you want me to do. And I'm going to try, but you can't keep sending me in every direction.

So I'm tapping out for the remainder. I think the only thing we got left is maybe a member member at our club here coming up in a month or two. Play that. But now I think my body's shot. I gave it all I had, dude. It left it all in the course. I like it. Yeah.

That's all you can do in this world. All right. Well, let's get to our guest, very special guests. for this week. Our man, Chez Revy. Yes, the ball striking machine. Dude, he's a robot. I play with him a lot when we're home. It really bothers me. It'll make you feel like shit about your game, quick, playing with him. He's the only guy, too. And I've played a bazillion rounds with him. You have two. He's the only guy. We'll go out and play. I can say it's two days before he leaves for a tournament. He'll go out and play. He'll hit 14 fairways,

17 greens. The one he misses is on the fringe and shoot 65. Next day. But all right, you want to play at noon tomorrow? Yeah, sure. Show up the next day. 13 new clubs. A new set of irons, new driver, new three with the whole thing. I was like, did you not just shoot 65, not miss Fairway, or a green yesterday? He's like, yeah, but I think I could get an extra half mile an hour ball speed with this driver. He tinkers more than anyone. He's not scared to tinker.

That is for sure. But man, the guy, it would be hard to find someone that really honestly hits it better than him. He's not the longest guy, but I mean, God, it's the same ball flight every single time. Just absolutely stripes it. Every iron goes right at the flag. It's fun to watch. He's a quiet, shy guy. Yes.

So we're going to try to open him up a little bit. Yes, there's layers, but you just got to peel back the onion with Chester. There is, but what a career he's had. I mean, for a guy that's just, I mean, probably not that well known in the golf world, but just sneaky just gets it done every single year. I mean, finished eighth in the FedEx Cup last year. Bulldog, like we talk about some of the guys, hates losing more than anything. And if he was a kid coming out of college right now, you would not point at him and

like, there's the guy that's going to go have a long career on the PJ. Because he's not the prototypical guy that you see on the PJ tour right now. He has to do it in different ways. He has to be accurate. He hits great irons. And he kind of goes as his putter goes. And we saw him just last year. He just won on the PJ tour.

You know, I mean, he could still, you can still get it done like that. It's harder. You just got to be better at everything else across the board. And he pretty much is. And if you ever get a chance to play golf with Ches Rievy, if you're a guest of Ches Rieves and you end up beating him, don't count on having lunch afterwards because he's going home. Yeah, better get that handshake on the 18th screen

because you might not see him after. Man does not take losing well. But that's sign of a champion. Yep. I totally agree with you. Well, let's get to it. Here's Ches Rievey on golf subpar. All right, we got a ball striking machine in the house,

ladies and gentlemen two-time pGA tour winner william chesney rievey is in the house chester how we doing brother good man how are you fantastic william chesney they want to call you who calls you william anyone mom dad no my grandpa was the only one the first time i was the first time i went to your house at greyhawk i went to security great and i was like i'm here to go the riebies and i go no ches no dude and they're like what william and i'm like i have no idea i have no idea i'm in the wrong neighbor i'm going to a guy named chez's house that's all i know let me get out of here. Billy. What about Billy? Billy Revy. You ever thought about that? No. Got a little something to it. Never got Billy. You know what I mean? Ches is such a cool name.

It is a cool name and it's unique. Nobody's got it. You yell, Chezz. Chester anywhere on property. You know you're getting him. Well, thanks for being here, dude. Appreciate you doing this. I know you're just fresh off a week at the U.S. Open. Let's talk a little bit about that. You just got back. We've been talking about it all week long. What was Wingfoot like? There's a ton of discussion around, but what did you think about the place? Yeah, I mean, it was really tough. I mean, it was really fair, but it was really tough. The greens are really undulated. if you hit in the rough, I mean, I was chipping out. Bryson was knocking out on greens, but I was chipping out and making bogey, so it was a short week for me. When they chopped some of the rough off, you know, Wednesday afternoon, did you think that hurt you?

Considering you're one of the straightest drivers of the golf ball on the planet? Yeah, maybe a little bit, but then when I missed all the fairways on Thursday, I was kind of happy they did it. But, I mean, yeah, I'd like the rough to be as long as it can be. So, you know, if you hit fairways, you get rewarded. When you were a drive, like, because we saw all the players posting things online, it was like, they were tossing balls in gently from, you know, a yard into the rough and they were vanishing. Was it even like playable at that point leading up into the week? Because we've speculated, we've talked about on radio and stuff.

But could you potentially advance a ball to the green from that stuff? No. No, not at all yet. I mean, it was really tough. The reason they cut it down, though, is that they wanted guys to feel like they could maybe knock it on the green and not be sure to kind of give them another option, whereas the majority of the time they weren't going to, they were going to make more doubles than they would have, you know, earlier if they just chipped out and gave themselves a wedge and try to save par.

I think the thing that bothers me the most is Monday, Tuesday, all the talk is, you got to hit the fairway. You can't play from the fairway. You can't play from the rough. And then they go out and they change the golf course a little bit and 40% of the field, on average, hit the fairways. Like, no one was hitting it. So obviously, if you're Bryson who can hit at 3.30, you're fine. It's better to be 3.30 in the rough than 280 in the rough. 100%.

And the tricky thing there, they didn't talk a whole lot about is when you get a dog leg, the fairway would slope away from the dog leg. So you'd hit one down the right center of the fairway on a dog leg left and it'd kick right and roll just in to the rough. So I mean, that part I think is tough, but, you know, that's part of the U.S. Open, and that's why they make the fairway so firm. For a guy like you, who is one of the, like, straightest drivers of the golf ball, did you see that course? Like, these are almost too narrow. Like, these are, like, if there's so narrow that I can't hit them, like, nobody's going to hit them. And now these guys are just going to send it as hard as they can.

Yeah, I mean, on Tuesday and Wednesday, to be honest with you, I hit the ball really well, and I really didn't hit it in the rough very often. So, you know, I was like, oh, this is fine. You know, I can, you know, maybe play here. This would be great. And then Thursday came around and I missed all the fairways and chipped out. And then I was like, okay, I really understand what these guys were talking about on Tuesday and Wednesday. Like when that happens, is that something that like, is it nerves or is it just, this is golf and some days it's good and some days it's bad? Yeah, you know, it was just kind of, it was golf. You know, it was, my fields were great coming off Napa. I played well there and played well Tuesday, Wednesday. And then I just

started missing it right off the T's on Thursday and I didn't know why. And I figured it out after the round. I was just kind of moving off the ball a little bit and getting my path too far to the right. But when I was on my golf course, I mean, I tried everything. I even aimed more left. I tried to shut the face down in my down swing and I look up and it's still going just far enough right to go into the rough. I mean, the PGA coach of the year, PGA coach and teacher of the year, Mark Blackburn was there. I mean, y'all got to develop some hand signals or something. Yeah, right. There's no gallery out there. Just a little, this is what you're doing. I know, figure that stuff out. But I think he was even surprised, you know, because my warm up went

great. And like I said, Tuesday, Wednesday was great. And so when he was watching me, he was like, what is going on? Why are you missing it right so much? And then we got on the range and 10 minutes on the range after the round, I started hitting it straight again. Crazy game. When you showed up at Wingfoot and you saw the course set up and the rough being as tough as it was, is that a golf course that excites you? Like, all right, this is for me. This is built. I'm the straightest guy out here. I'm one of the best iron players. This is the type of spot where I will thrive. Yeah, absolutely. I definitely felt that way. But, you know, like Colts said, golf can humble you real quick. And, you know, on Thursday after about 10

holes, I was exhausted, just, you know, trying to figure it out, trying to chip it back in the fairway, trying to hit wedges up there and save some pars. Well, it's just something you haven't seen all week. Like, you're going through your week and you're like, oh, I'm striping it. I'm in fairways. I know how to play from this stuff. And then you're like, uh, what the hell just happened? Yeah, exactly. It's like, okay, how far can I advance this out of the rough? What will give me an angle to maybe be able to save a par? And yeah, it was a totally different animal. Going into the week, though, I mean, I don't know how much of the coverage you watch leading in or how much you read about any of it. But like, it was very well known. Bryson said, I'm going to

hit driver on every single hole. I'm going to send it up there. I don't know if you did hear that. What did you think of that? Yeah, you know, I mean, Bryson says a lot of stuff. And I mean, you hear it and you definitely know he's going to go out there and he's, you know, added so much distance. And, you know, when the rough was like that on Tuesday, Wednesday, I was like, wow, you know, he's going to have his hands full. But then, you know, he went out there and he just proved that what he wanted to do would work.

You know, and I think a lot of it, too, around the greens, his short game was great. He made a lot of great puts, a lot of great up and down. So, you know, he didn't hit as many greens necessarily as I think he could have. But for him, you know, he knew that if he had a wedge in his hand instead of a nine-nine iron or eight iron or seven iron, then he had a better chance to hit the green. Okay, obviously, you've been on the PJ tour for a very long time, around 13 years. You know, you've seen how this game has started to evolve. And it's not one of the longest guys out there.

Does it kind of frustrate you? Or is it just, you know what? This is what happens. I'm going to have to deal with it. Yeah, you know, I don't let it frustrate me. I mean, I just have to play to my strengths. And, you know, I'd be lying to you if I told you, I wasn't trying to, you know, add some speed as well.

But, you know, I'm never going to have the speed Bryson has or Dustin or Rory or those guys. So I have to play to my strengths and just continue to hit fairways. Would you like to know what your coach, Mark Blackburn? What analogy he used with you? Oh, yeah, the guy he compared you to? Floyd Mayweather. You heard that? I didn't hear it, but I guess it.

I hear from him all the time. I almost fell out of my chair. I didn't know what he was talking about. We brought you up, like in this podcast with him, and he's like, you know, Ches Revees a lot like Floyd Maywebett. And I think before he could get another way, we were like, are you,

that was not the guy I was thinking you're going to compare it. But the analogy does make sense. Once he explained it, it made a little more sense. Just keep jabbing away. I hear jabbing away at least three times a day from him out there. just keep jabbing away. Just, you know, don't try and do anything crazy. Yeah, exactly.

But isn't it, in your opinion, do you think the way golf technology has gone with the equipment and everything, it's benefited the long guys way more than it's benefited you? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, you know, we were in Charlotte, I don't know, a year or two ago, and Taylor-Made brought out some of their old, you know, first metal wood that they made, and I stepped up with it and I hit it just as straight as I hit mine now, maybe not quite as far, but I still hit it just as straight.

So, you know, that doesn't benefit me, whereas these guys can build so much speed and they would have a hard time hitting that club in today's game. Yeah, like, I would always, when I was with Callow, when I'm with Calloway, when Callow had bring out a new driver, they'd be like, oh, we're seeing on average, you know, 12 yards longer. And I'm like, well, I'm about to bring that down because I guarantee it probably goes 0.2 yards further, if anything. It used to drive me nuts. I'm like, why can mine not pick up 12 yards? But yet the guys that already hit 300, they pick up 12 yards. Yeah, it's exactly right. I mean, it's just built for guys who have a lot of speed, you know, so their misfits,

you know, they still have just as much ball speed when they don't hit it out of the center. And, you know, and it's just more forgiving for them so they can tweak as hard as they can at it. I hate them. All that club manufacturing bullshit, it's like 10 yards further. If you believe that, that's been, they've been saying that for the last 10 years. Every driver's 10 yards long, you should be 100 yards longer than you were a decade ago. You know, the average dude at home that hits the sweet spot one out every 47 times. Yeah, he probably does pick up 10 yards.

Well, he should have picked up 100 then over the last decade because every new driver that's trotted out. It's like, faster, better, more forgiving. them the last one. I was like, dude, there's got to be a limit here at some point. But I want to ask you, the like consensus after what Bryson did up there at Wingfoot was, it was actually an article written on it. It was said, quote, the U.S. Open as we know it is dead. Do you actually believe that after seeing what Bryson did? Are we just overreacting to one guy who had a great and played really good golf, by the way, not only off the tee, but everywhere else. And we're like, everyone chill out. This is a jump to conclusion. Yeah, I mean, I think they're

jumping to conclusions. I mean, Bryson went out there and like he said, he played great. He managed the golf course well. He managed his mistakes really well. And under the pressure, I mean, he just played amazing golf. The golf course was really hard. And I mean, I think it's just an overreaction. You just need to applaud him for playing so well. Yeah. And by the way, if you look at it, like, everything's made about his distance. He wasn't even in the top five in driving distance last week. He ranked seventh in driving distance last week. And everyone's like, you got to brace and proof it and do all this stuff. It's like, dude, he wasn't even the longest guy out there. Is some of what the other aspects of his game being overlooked in terms of like why he was six under and

nobody else was under par. Yeah, 100%. I mean, his short game must have been amazing. I mean, I didn't watch. He scrambled the shit out of it. Second and strokes gained around the green. Yeah, and that's really why he won the U.S. Open, right? Because chipping around those greens was brutal.

I mean, the greens alone were brutal. Making puts was really tough. And it just shows you how great his touches around the greens when he has that much speed with a driver. When I think of the U.S. Open, I think of guys like you, though, the way they play. You know, you look back to last year at Pebble Beach. By the way, you made me a lot of cash that week. Thank you.

More than thank you personally. but if you were going to design a U.S. Open setup or even pick a golf course for Ches Rievy to to compete at and have a chance to win, what would it be? You know, I think firm fast golf courses are great. Obviously golf courses that have real high rough, that's great. And you just take, I mean, look at a place like Colonial, right? The golf course is not long. You know, they don't grow the rough up crazy.

And what's the winning score there every year? I mean, it's not very low. It's been single digits before. Yeah, exactly. And so, you know, when you talk about Bryce and proofing a golf course, where you're going to do make it longer? Like they tried to Tiger proof Augusta for Tiger. I mean,

they just played more into his hands at the time. And so I think, you know, they just need to figure out that length isn't the solution that there are other ways that they can make it tough. First off, what they should do at Tiger is let him win every single week because it brings more money to everyone. Yeah, 100%.

Let's set a golf course that works for him. You just hit seven out on every hole. That's all you do, every single time. And you got to move it both ways. Let's go back to the beginning, though, a little bit. Okay? You went to Arizona State. One of the Pub links at Arizona State.

I want to talk a little bit. First off, were you a highly recruited guy coming out of high school? Yeah, I mean, I was in the top 20 in, you know, junior ranking. And I always wanted to go to Arizona State. Growing up here, that's when Phil was at Arizona State. And they were great, and he was my idol. And so if I could go there, that's where I was going to go. Wow.

I've never heard anybody admit that Phil was their idol. Dobson Ranch. Yeah. Or Dobson High School, what is it? Dobson Ranch, stand up. Chez put them on the map. Obviously, I mean, Arizona States had legends come out of that program. Who were some of the other guys on your team?

On my team. my freshman year I played with Paul Casey I played with Jeff Quinney played with Matt Jones played with Jen Park um so I had a lot of good players just everyone that makes it on tour goes out of there who is the guy because everyone you're obviously a team you want to win and I'm you guys want a ton but who is the guy on that team that you're like I want to I want to make sure I don't lose to this guy everyone's got one in college yeah I mean I don't know they're honestly all of them I mean I wanted to beat all of them um Paul Casey I mean he had won everything you can possibly win he was a senior my freshman year

And so I wanted to play as much as I could with him because I knew that that's what would make me better. Was he a bully to you? No, he and I got along great. He treated me great. I'm mad at Paul right now, by the way. He said some bad things about me on air. Uh-oh. Yeah, he did.

He threw a little jab at Colt on an interview and Colts not taking it too well. No, it didn't take it very well. We're going to shun Paul starting now. Actually, he's still in with me, but he's out for Colt. Were you there with Perez at all, were you? No, he was gone. Because he kind of like bullied. I wouldn't say bully.

They ended up becoming close friends. But when they first got there, he and Paul kind of like. Are you surprised by that? No, zero. That's Pat. Yeah. Zero. I love it.

But you won the Publinks while you were in college, by the way. Same. Shout out. Hey. But. Oh, never much. It earned you a trip to the Masters. But first of all, I want to talk about the finals of the Publinks because you played a golfing legend in the finals.

Danny Green, which if you're a big golf fan, you know who Danny Green is. He's a legend around the amateur game. You won't 38 holes. Yeah. What was it like playing that guy? And good Lord, have you ever seen an ugly move with the golf ball? Yeah, you know, you watch him swing. You're like, wow, okay, I'm going to beat this guy 9 and 8, you know, and then he starts

making birdies and getting everything up and down. And, you know, he's just, he's a tough competitor and he's a tough guy to beat. He's still a dude, he was the gatekeeper of that type of, like at that age back when Chess was doing that. Like he was like, you knew he was going to be there at some point and he's going to be a tough out. It looks like complete shit, but it's like, I'm going to have to go through this guy at some point.

He doesn't give anything away. Yeah, he was a guy. I mean, you know, the interviews the night before. He's like, I've played Augusta, I've played the Masters. I've won, you know, I think he won the mid-am or something. And, you know, he turns up the next day. He's got an Augusta hat on, Augusta shirt on. He's going to remind me that it's a, you know, the Masters is at stake.

Oh, I didn't know we were playing for the Masters. Yeah, exactly. Come on. What's that match like, though? Because the Publinks, you have to win it, right? You get in the U.S. Amateur, if you make the finals, you get in. But Publinks, you got to win it. Is that pressure, like, weird at that point?

Like, it's either kind of all or nothing. I either win, I'm Publinks champion Augusta or nothing. Yeah, exactly. I mean, you know what you're going to get. and, you know, so you just go out and you play your butt off. Well, talk to us about playing Augusta as an amateur because obviously turned that down, which was stupid. Smart.

So take us through that week a little bit. How special was that? Who did you play with? And did you stay in the crow's nest and all that? Yeah, stay in the crow's nest, which was awesome. You know, they can bring you food and milkshakes and whatever you want all the time. So the 24 hour. Yeah, I mean, it was heaven.

Yeah, it was awesome. You know, I showed up. I played a practice around with Ben Crenshaw and Jerry Pate, which was awesome, with Tim Jackson, who's another amateur legend. Yeah, it was just an awesome week. Played with Adam Scott in the par three contest. And yeah, I mean, it was everything you can dream of and more. You made a little hoopty won on a par three on the part three course,

but it was after I think you hit it in the water. Correct. Okay. So a hole in one, but with an asterisk. It was a good par. Okay. What's the crow's nest like, though? We had Ricky on here.

He talked about it earlier, but that's a cramped quarters. Who all was in there with you? It is. Let's see. Tim Jackson was up there. Michael Hoey was up there from, I think he's from Ireland. who else was a Ricky didn't stay up there he was big time he rented a house or something course diva what a little princess yeah I think it was Ricky you on that year who else was there

there's a guy from northern California is it like if someone snores next to you like you might not sleep like it's that tight up there 100% that's a problem I feel like here's arguably the biggest week of your life and if like numb nuts over here has a sleep apnea or whatever like I'm not going to get any sleep before my first round of master yeah I mean they aren't bedrooms so it's literally one room like this room and then they're they just put some partitions that don't even go, you know, all the way to the ceiling or the floor. You know, it's almost like a dressing room type situation. But then you walk in and the pictures are amazing and you just know it's been there forever.

And you know, who slept there and stayed there. And it's, you know, it's awesome. It's, I would never not stay in the crow's nest if I was an amateur. Yeah, of course. Colt, you could have had that. I know, I could have. You snore, though. No, I know.

You would have ruined it for everyone. I'm a gentle sleeper. Let's go into hibernation. Shut up. So can you say, looking back to, I mean, obviously that was a long time ago. First tea Thursday of the Masters as an amateur. Arguably the most nervous you've ever been? Oh, by far.

By far. So I was actually putting on the putting green. I'm playing with Tom Watson and Billy Mayfair. Oh, nice. Yeah, so I'm putting on the putting green. And, you know, I'm warming up. I'm fine. I'm putting.

I'm fine. And then, you know, they call us to the tea. And my whole body goes numb. And Tom's putting next to me and we're walking on the tea. And I look at him. I'm like, Tom, I can't feel anything in my body. I'm like, I'm not going to be able to hit this tea shot. And he put his arm around me.

He's like, oh, don't worry, Chess. I'm nervous too. And I kind of stopped. I'm like, how many times have you won here? You're such a liar. You're not nervous. But it kind of broke the ice and gave me just enough feeling in my hands to chop it down the fairway. I hit in the fairway, but I probably hit it 240 yards or something. That's a stripe. It's a stripe. What are you talking about? Nice hit. Nice little poke, especially back in that age. Now you'd have like 270 into that hole. Yeah, exactly. Three wood and a wedge. What was it like playing with Watson those first two days? Was he talkative? Do you guys chop it up? Yeah, we talked. He treated me great. I mean, he couldn't have been nicer.

You know, when I'm putting out on the greens, he would wait for me, be on the green. I mean, he couldn't have been more of a gentleman towards me at all. It was funny, though, we were on, what hole was it? It was 15s of par, 5, 14, you know, where it has that big false front. And so we both hit it in the hill and it comes off the front. And we're like not even a foot from each other. He's going first. I'm looking.

I'm like, oh, I'm going to put this. You know, I'm not going to chip it at tight lie. I'm no chance. And he goes up and he chips it up there to, like, you know, tap in range. And I'm like, I'm still putting it. I'm still putting it. and I putted it and I didn't get all the way up the hill and it came back and went behind me. And he kind of chuckled like you should have chipped that kid.

I showed you exactly how to do it. Yeah, where the hell were you on that one, Tom? Maybe coach me out of that, bro. You know what I mean? I'm a rook here. I'm sure that was an incredible experience. You didn't play the weekend, but what do you do after you? All right, so he missed the cut as an amateur, not a big deal.

Everybody does it. What do you do? Do you hang around for the weekend or what's the rest of the week? Yeah, so I stayed. So Billy, you know, I asked Billy. I was like, hey, man, should I stay? And he's like, yeah, absolutely stay. you can practice hit balls.

He's like, enjoy the week. You know, don't run out of here early because you miss the cut. So I stayed in practice and just chipped and putted and went out and walked and watched some golf and just enjoy the rest of the week. Sleys would have shown up right when the leaders are getting to the range, warmed up right next to him. Just so people think he might be in contention. Hey, Tiger, I got a funny story. Hold up real quick.

Take a load off for a minute. You're not going to believe this. I love it. Let's fast forward to your rookie year on tour because what a year that was. 2008, you win. First off, RBC Canadian Open. Make over 1.4 million. million dollars. At the end of that year,

where you're just like, this shit's kind of easy. I got this. I'm just going to dominate out here for years to come. Yeah, right? I mean, I was hoping for that, right? But you know it's golf and you can get humbled real quick. And so, yeah, I mean, I really enjoyed the year, but I just know how good all the guys are out there. And I just kept

You're way too humble. You got to buy stuff. Feel free. This show is one of bravado. I'm being honest. We talk about being way better than we actually are. I mean, Colton I make a living out of it. Yeah, I tell this story. Like, I turned, so 2008 was my rookie year on the web tour, and out of Corn Ferry Tour. And I went out, won twice, finished like fifth on the money list.

These guys suck. I'm like, well, I'm going to go to the next year and do the same thing. Make about $3 million and keep going. I think I made like $220,000 the next year on the PJ Tour. Got humbled so fast. Back to Q School. Here we go. Yeah.

And speaking of that, you did go. You came out there, you win right away. Then you go back to Q School. I think it was in 2012. You had to make a return to Q School after being a winner. Is there more pressure being that you were, you came out right away and won. Your rookie, you went on the PGA tour. You've been at the top of the ladder already.

and now all of a sudden, four years later, you're back at Q school trying to get your job back. Is there more pressure to keep your card once you've been there or maybe get it for the first time? That's a good question. I mean, I'd say the pressure is similar. I think the hard part is knowing how good it is on tour and how much fun it is and how great all the events are. And then knowing that you might not have that anymore, you feel a little bit more pressure because you want it more. You've kind of tasted it a little bit. Whereas when you've never been out there, it's always been a dream.

You think it's going to be cool, but you don't really know what to expect. and so, you know, you're just working hard to try and get there. But once you know you have it and you can possibly lose it, I think it's a little more Yeah, playing for a million a week and going down and being like, all right, now I'm playing for $100 grand a week. That's like a pretty significant change. You know, I feel like it would be almost harder having had it already and then being like, oh, now I'm about to lose this potentially.

Yeah, it's just mainly, you know, we practice and we work so hard and you want to play against the best in the world. You know, that's the ultimate challenge. And when you feel like you might not have that opportunity, you know, it's pretty, it can be pretty upsetting at times. And that that cue school, you finished 22nd, I believe, to keep your, to regain your tour card for that year? How close was that coming down the stretch? I made a six-footer on the last hole to get my card. No shit. Oh, my God. Oh, boy. How is that one? Did you know exactly where you stood? Oh, yeah. Yeah. You knew exactly what it was. Yeah, exactly what it was. It was actually

the only week I've ever used a belly putter back when they were allowed. I switched to a belly putter right before. Before finals? Literally right, right? That's smart. I like a huge switch right before finals. of that. Cole had a simositia. He had a little nail biter coming down. Oh my God, I peeped on my face. It was more than a nail bite. It was like a throw up on your Yeah, I made double. It ended up making it on the number. Cole, who's had 99% of the fairways the entire week and he's got the state of California to the left. It's hit in the water. I just great friend. I made double got him his card. Just helping people out. That's what you do. People are friendly guy. But tell the people at home, like, first up, I still think there should be a Q school. There is one for the corned freight door, but I still think it's so cool when a guy.

when a guy that can be, you know, just picking up balls at a driving range, can sign up for Q school, and he can work his way through and get on the PGA tour. Like, I still think that's so cool. Do you wish there was still kind of a Q school for, like, guys like that? I mean, look at Tommy Ganey, who made it through and it was an incredible story. George McNeil is a good one, right? Yeah. He was a club pro working a pro shop, went to tour school, got his card,

and I think he won his first year out on tour. Yeah, I mean, those stories aren't going to happen much now at all, really. I mean, at least the college kids still have a way, you know, they can, you know, get their starts and make enough money and get their card pretty quickly still. But yeah, I mean, tour school is great. I mean, it's fun to watch. It's fun to have good stories. You know, the feel good stories are the guys who come out and play well and get their cards.

But you don't get your like Anthony Kim's and your DJs, the guys that just come out, I'm ready right now. Like, they don't have to go to a year of the Corn Furry tour and play like, dude, I can play with these guys right now. It takes like a little longer, I guess, for them, which isn't the end of the world. But you never know when you go down there what can happen. And it's like, dude, you can kind of lose it and get lost down there. My friends at home always said the Monday of Q school was always their favorite event to watch all year. And I'm like, you are sick bastard. Yeah.

Oh, dude. I've been watching guys who throw up on themselves, and then that was me when you're. I'm like, did you all enjoy that? Yeah, it was that fun for you? I was bawling my eyes out in the scoring trailer. Yeah, I remember I sent you a text, I think after I found out you got in and I was like, thank God, this is going to be bad.

I actually sent a text that same year, Eric Meyer, Dirk's a friend of mine, you know, Eric? Yeah. He got through, this was one of my biggest mess ups, dude. I sent him, I forgot that it ended. I forgot that, for whatever reason, it was Sunday, which is after the fifth round, right? Monday's the ender. And I looked up on the ticker and he was in like seven. team call it right tour card bam i was like dude erie so happy for you bro congratulations well

deserved you're the man all this stuff he's like thanks dude one more round and i was like oh shit i just put the curse on the kid if he had missed i would have lost my i would have i don't know if you still have been the same person yeah it would have gotten over it who cares all right well we mentioned earlier you have two wins on the pjah tour you won the 2008 rbc canadian open and then last year you won the travelers championship after finishing third the week before at pebble but you also have two playoff losses and i know those probably sting a little bit 2011 in boston 2018 right here in your backyard at the waste management Phoenix Open. If you could go back and hit one shot over at either event, but you can only pick one,

which one would it be? Phoenix Open for sure. What shot would it be? My second shot in the playoff. I mean, it was a good number, a good spot. I mean, I should have made Birdie. I mean, I don't know. It stinks.

I was excited to make the birdie to get into the playoff. And, you know, I think I was still too pumped up. I didn't calm myself down enough before we went back out. And I think that's what was. Was that the loudest roar you've ever heard, like for you when you made that put? on 18 to force a playoff with Gary Woodland. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it's definitely, you know,

that's the most pumped up I've ever been on a golf course ever. And yeah, that's why I just wasn't quite prepared when we went back out. I was still too fired up. I root for you all the time, but I've never rooted for you harder. Against Gary? I know. No one wants to see Gary. I almost drove out there and did something stupid just so you could win for sure.

I hate when Gary wins. Is that one like harder, like the pressure of that playoff being that you are a local guy and this is the, you know, arguably the biggest, There's the most people of any tournament on the PGA tour. Yeah, you know, being a local kid here, you know, I carried the signboards growing up for groups, and, you know, I always got to go to the tournament as long as my grades were good. I got to skip two days of school and go out there and do that. And so, you know, it's like a major for me.

So to have a chance to win was great, and hopefully I'll get another chance. And it's not a place that I would think would set up very well for you, but you've really found your way around TPC Scottsdale. Can you tell us a secret? Yeah, I was just playing way too aggressive. You know, I think part of it is I wanted to win so bad. And so I was just making way too many bogeys and doubles. And so the last few years, I've just really dialed it back and I'll get aggressive at spots.

But, you know, it's crazy. Once I felt like I wasn't aggressive, I'm, you know, whatever I was, 18 under or 15 under, whatever it was, to get into a playoff. That's when I shot my lowest scores. So it's, you know, that's kind of the key for me is to just play to my strengths there and not try and overdo it. Yeah, and you look at all these guys on the PGA tour now. They rely on analytics a lot and a lot on statistics. I know you work with a guy named Hortsey, and I'm a big fan of. Kind of explain, like, how that's changed.

throughout your PGA tour career. And when did you start relying on these stats and analytics and stuff like that? Yeah, so I started three years ago, maybe. Yeah, I mean, I just, I kind of got to know him. And, you know, we were talking and he kind of, he just looked at my stats on his own. He's like, hey, man, you and I need to sit down and have a talk. And I was like, what are you talking about? He's like, well, you know, you hit so many fairways.

You had so many greens. He's like, how are you not finishing higher every week? And I was like, what are you talking about? And he's like, you're being way too aggressive. And so we just kind of broke it down. And I mean, the first few weeks, he's like, look, if you've got anything over a six iron just aimed middle of green. I was like, are you serious? And he's like, yeah.

And so I did it. And, you know, I forget what week that was. I want to say it might have been the PGA at Quail Hollow. And then I just started playing really well. And, you know, my scores dramatically and got better, but I didn't feel like I was doing anything different, you know, technique-wise or anything. I was just playing the golf course is smarter. So is that like, go ahead. Well, for the people at home, because they're going to have no idea what we're talking about. Like, so do you and Hortsey meet before each round and kind of discuss?

what the game plan should be because obviously there's some pins that are getable there's some that aren't and they change each day so when do you all sit down and talk about this or how does it work yeah so i'll get at the beginning of the week i'll get an email of the golf course and you know what holes to work on short game what holes to be aggressive what holes not to be aggressive and then obviously that changes day to day and so when i tee off late in the afternoon i have all the live data from the morning round so i know where all the bogeys are made all the birdies are made i know all of that information and so if I do get it out of position I know where around the green to try and get my golf ball to give me the best chance to get it up and down how come you had this on the jicks on the jickeys

dude this wasn't available on the jicks I could dig it out of the dirt I was like oh what everyone's making double here perfect I'll fire the three iron right at the left green when there's a lake to the left who cares dude you know I mean I've got to make tweets out here on the jicks but how many guys are using this like is this are you unique in the sense that you're using all this data and stuff or is there a handful of guys who do it uh I know brant snedeker was one of the first ones he started a long time ago eight or nine years ago probably with this guy. Billy Horshaw uses him. There's just been, yeah, there's been different people that have used him at different times, but I think he always has like five or six guys he works with. So you get the date in the morning,

like, hey, everyone's bogeying number five or tons of people are bogeying number five. You get up to number five, like what does that mean to you? How does that change the way you play the hole? Well, it just depends where they're making bogeys from, right? So I know, like, if all the bogeys are made from long right, then, you know, if I'm between clubs, I'm going to take a shorter club and make sure I'm short left of the flag, stuff like that. And then, yeah, just what holes, you know, like you'll see where people are three putting from, you know, what the common problem is there. And so, you know, if you do get it into a certain spot where a lot of guys have three putted,

I'll know if they're running it by the hole or if they're coming up short. And so I'll kind of know, okay, this putt, it looks, you know, it doesn't look quick, but I know it's quick because, you know, 10 guys this morning hit it eight feet by and three putt it. Do you watch the coverage in the morning when you're in the afternoon? A little bit, but not a whole lot. You don't? No, no, just because I've got the data and, you know, I don't like listening to the guys talk about golf and how these guys are messing up or whatever. What if it's me talking about it?

Yeah, sorry. Then you just-prudable voice. Then you tune in and turn that volume off. Yeah, turn it up loud, right? What's Colts saying? Yes, exactly. This is definitely going to know. I mean, obviously, like stuff like that used to not be available.

We got the Green books now. We have Trackband. We have all this. Do you think guys rely too much on technology sometimes? 100%. 100%. And, you know, I've looked at Green's books and I kind of go back and forth. I don't use them a whole lot because I,

I think it gets in my head more than anything else. And, you know, it just confuses me and I don't commit to, you know, my lines and stuff. I hate them. Yeah. I think green reading is a skill. That is bullshit. I don't like that those exist on the PJ tour. Putting is an art.

And if you can't, you shouldn't have a book that tells you exactly what everything. Dude, that's part of the deal. And you still got to hit it. But the fact that, like, I mean, there's a lot of putts out there. You're like, does this go left or does this go right? Like, it's a Twitter. And then you look at your book and you're like, oh, all the arrows are pointed to the left. Like, no.

This is a green. This is a skill. I read greens better than some people. I should have, I mean, I hit it 240. I have to have some advantage in this game. Come on. Yeah, I mean, it definitely, you know, for guys who don't have that ability to read greens very well, it helps them quite a bit. I mean, some guys will even put practice screens in their yards, you know, at a 1% slope, a 2% slope, 3% slope.

And so they know kind of what that break looks like in their head. And then when they look at their book and they're like, oh, it's 2 or it's 2 and a half or whatever, they can kind of see that. But for me, it just complicates things for me. So you don't use it at all. Not my caddy's always got one and I'll look at it time to time. I've tried it a few times, but it doesn't seem to help. There's some guys like Phil in his backyard. He's like, I got one degree, two degree, three degree.

I got holes. So I know as soon as I get on a golf course, if I have a 12 footer and it's a two degree slope, I know it's, all right, it's a cup out left or whatever or vice versa. Yeah, which is surprising for me, you know, because he's so naturally talented with his hands. And, you know, he sees so many different shots around the greens that I don't, I think he would be better off if he didn't use him. Yeah, he seems more like an artist and not a, and not a scientist, obviously.

Let me ask you this. So obviously, golf is evolving. All sports evolve. We've talked about this, how, you know, in the NBA, they didn't use to shoot 53-pointers a game, but now they do. And the NFL, they didn't throw it up 50 times. It was I formation pounded.

Now golf is pretty much bomb and gouch, whether you like it or not. Do you think we'll see any young kids coming out of college or anything or even out of amateur golf that play golf the way Chesrevee does in the near future? No, I mean, I don't think so. If you do, it'd be very rare.

I mean, because all these kids now have crazy speed. I mean, even my nephew, my 16-year-old nephew today, we were on the range. I mean, he's been playing five years, maybe four or five years. He's swinging it at 1.25, 130 and just getting bombs. Yeah, he has a six-pack apparently. He's 16. He's swinging at 125? Yeah, I mean, he's got a crazy speed. Tyler. Tyler, I hate you. I'm so jealous of everything. And he's got a six-pack? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, he's, probably has beautiful hair. Is Mark Mulder the dad? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I mean, he's just, he's got crazy speed and he loves a game. And so, I mean, who knows. Can he play? Yeah, I mean, he's getting a little. Yeah, he's getting a

a lot better. He hasn't been playing long and he's getting better at a very quick rate. Well, you said earlier, like I would, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't doing things to try to increase my speed. What are you doing right now? Is that something you're constantly trying to do? Yeah, I mean, with some technique, but a lot of it's just literally getting my mind out of it that I just need to swing as hard as I can. I mean, that's a lot of it. I'm so used to swinging one way on a golf course and kind of controlling it to where you got to kind of get past that and not be afraid to hit it offline and just swing faster. How much more do you have in the tank? Like if from your normal cruiser speed, which your cruiser speed is pretty much as automatic as anybody's out there.

But if you were like, all right, Ches Revy really wants to hit one, how much more you got in there? I don't know. I mean, we're trying to figure that out right now, not a whole lot. I mean, I'll just kind of swing normal and it would be like 11, 112, and I feel like I swing as hard as I can and it might get to 113 or 14. Yeah, 112.5. That's the same. I'm 104 and I swing out of my shoes and 105. I'm like, oh, that was cool.

Sometimes it's even slower. Yeah, exactly. And you're like, I don't understand because you'll see some people like Charlie Hoffman. I mean, he was swinging 114 and then, you know, he does some TPI stuff. Now he's swinging 127, 128. Yeah, that's what I told you on the radio today. That's a 10 miles an hour is. I mean, I don't know people understand how big of a jump that.

You could work years and years and not getting a hand. But that's one thing that's cool with the technology where this really helps, like the TPI. I mean, you see 3D motion stuff. You see how your body works and you're like, oh, well, my hips don't turn it all on the way back. If I turn this, I pick up six miles an hour, stuff like that, and pick the left heel up a little bit. It's really cool. I'm still waiting for that to happen to me. Yeah, I've tried all that stuff and it doesn't matter.

I always try the left heel. All I do is hit it like shit, but I feel like I want to be a left heel guy, I'm old school guy. What are you doing like workout? Like, you know, technology's changed everything and now people can use all this stuff. Are you doing anything fitness-wise to try and keeping up? Yeah, I mean, a lot of core stuff, a lot of rotational core stuff. I mean, I don't think any of it's really revolutionary.

We're mixing it up a little bit to where we'll lift heavy a little bit and then do some speed stuff to try and get those muscles to just move faster, even being stronger. So, I mean, it's, who knows, hopefully. it works. I'm trying. I've got those speed sticks. I'm swinging, you know, doing all those drills with that to try and pick up some speed. But the big thing for me is I can't change

a bunch of technique to get speed because then I'll lose accuracy and I can't afford to do it. Why would you change technique when you hit 13 and a half fairways around and 16 and a half greens? All right. Well, I hate talking about working out, so we're going to change the subject. Cool, what do you do? That's how you did it. You're in the field in Augusta in November. Okay. Say Ches

Revy were to go on to win the Masters. I want to know the champion's dinner menu for Ches Revy and I know you're a big wine guy, so we need specific bottle. Bottles. I think Chateau would be my way. I mean, I know they've got everything yet. What do you think, Col? Do you like that?

What year? I don't even know. I would let them handle that at Augusta. They know a lot more about that stuff than I do. Yeah. What be Chezz's meal, you think? Meal, I don't know. It's hard because, I mean, I love food.

I love steaks, but I love fried chicken as well. So that would be a tough decision. And you're an incredible, you make incredible ribs. I've had them. Yeah, I love to smoke food. I love barbecue food. Yeah, I love doing all that stuff. But honestly, I'd probably end up going with steak just because I love steak. I've got a great idea. You go win the Masters and then me and Sleeves will be like your taste testers. There we go.

You throw a few menus together. We'll tell you which one we like. But you're a little Somalié, too. I'll tell you what pairs well with what. When you look, you got back-to-back majors that Augusta coming up, what do you think the difference will be so much speculation? But in November Masters, what does that look like? You know, honestly, I have no idea. I mean, knowing Augusta, it's going to be imperfect. shape. It doesn't matter what the weather is going to do. For some reason, they can just always get it in awesome shape. But I really have no idea what it's going to be like there in November. Is that something you're like knowing that golf course is a beast and it favors longer

hitters? Is that something you'll like ramp up this speed stuff heading into that? Yeah, I mean, I'm going to work on it hard. I mean, honestly, I'll probably add another hybrid in my bag so I can, you know, I'll probably have a three and four hybrid in my bag just so I can hit it as high as I can from the fairways, hopefully. But I mean, yeah, there's no talent. Colt has a piece of shit four hybrid that I hate a lot. Maybe you can borrow that. It comes in like a nine iron. Hopefully I can hit it as straight as he is. It is beautiful. I made a couple tweets. I hate that. Frankie. Frank? No. No. What's it called? It's Gary, but it's Frankie. Yeah, but it's Frankie.

Yeah, but it's Frankie. But you know, being in November with nobody hardly playing there, I mean, no one knows what to expect. I feel like it's probably the most wide open masters of any of them. Yeah, for sure. I mean, nobody's going to know what to expect. And they can make the greens firm and fast. It doesn't matter what time of year it is there. So, I mean, yeah, we're just going to go there and try and figure it out like everybody you look good and green i do oh baby let's get it going sleazy e9 or you got any no i got a little bit more i want to ask you about your you had a little you had a little you've had some injury issues uh that have gone on 2014 you had the season ending wrist injury right and the doctors told you there was a 50 50 chance that this thing could take or it could not

take what was it like sitting there thinking you're waiting to heal you're in a cast and you're like there's 50% of the time i might not be able to even come back and play golf how hard is that to sit there and not be completely out of your hands yeah i mean it's pretty You know, in 2011, I had knee surgery. I had my ACL, I'd torn my ACL, so I had that fixed. But that was easy because I started rehab right away, and you knew it was gonna get better. Just so many people have had the surgery.

Whereas my wrist surgery, it was like, look, people have come back from this and some people haven't. You know, there's no guarantee you might be better, and then, you know, a month in, just make one swing and tear it again and we gotta start over. So, you know, being in a long arm cast for that long and not knowing if it's actually healing or better, that was brutal.

and you had a wrist you got ACL going on to the same like are you secretly like some mMA underground fighter like where are all these injuries coming from you play call of duty and you play golf i don't know like how are you blowing out ACL yeah so i tour my ACL in high school we used to play tackle football every sunday and uh it was funny we played for like six months and you know i never got hurt and then my dad's like what are you doing on sundays where are you going and i was like well we play football he's like you're an idiot you're going to get hurt and i was like dad i've been playing for six months haven't gotten hurt that sunday i tore my xo perfect well i'm kind of thinking you know maybe that wrist surgery, they made you kind of like rookie of the year, you know, a little fat, because

you didn't get the fast twitch, but you got the stable one where you hit it dead straight every single time because you're known, at least I heard from Charlie Hoffman, the Seagull. He calls you the par three assassin. Yeah, you have a ridiculous amount of hole-in-ones. Tell the people, how many hole-in-one? This is the Chesrivy. 23 hole-in-one. Jesus. 23 hole-in-one. And by the way, how many holeouts on the PJ Tour do you have? You went to Hawaii a few years ago.

Three and one round. I was playing that week, and every five minutes on the board, is it. Ches-Ree. Eagle and I'm like that's another part four what the hell is going on? Yeah. It's your typo? It was a joke. Yeah. So 23 home ones.

Yeah. Oh my God. You're ridiculous. Yeah. That's unbelievable. I don't think I've had a drink off of one of those. When was the last time you hold out on a park four? You sent me pictures that you had, but fortunately you didn't actually charge me.

We're going to start charging these things. That's getting real. How many, how many, how many, when was the last time you had a whole out on a part four? I don't know. For Eagle. Dude, I drink a lot. Years, bro. Years.

Jez goes three in one round. Yeah. I mean, if you did three in a year, I feel like that would be a... It's really devastating when you're also playing at the same time, and you're like probably two over par. Yeah, that's right. He's holding out every other hole. That's right.

That's absolutely right. Well, let's get to the E9, because this is some fun stuff. Okay. Yeah, let's get to it. Yeah. I was going to get into a little call of duty with you right now. Well, we got... You got something in touch on that?

All right, we'll elaborate on some of these. All right. You fired it off first, Colty. All right. We asked this to everyone. Movie made about the life of Chez Revy. Who plays you? You can pick any actor.

I'd have to say Tom Cruise probably because he's about my height. Jesus. We spent straight off. How's your ego, bro? I can't say Brad Pitt or Matt McCona. All this humility was a fake. I got to pretend like I have a six-pack. And your dog's named Maverick.

I write it. I'm a favorite movie. Yeah, all right. I didn't have any. Who'd you have for him? I could do like Paul Rudd for him. Oh, that's actually, I was asking my wife today. I was like, yeah, who should I pick for Chess's actor?

She said, Paul Rudd. I said, no. And then I went with women to see his name. Daniel Radcliffe, you know how that is? Yep. Who is he? He's a Harry Potter guy. Yeah, he's the wizard from Harry Potter because you're a ball striking wizard.

It's supposed to be what he looks like, not what it does. Somewhat similar, dude? He's got dark hair and he's a wizard. What's the difference? All right, next question. My turn now. All right, who was president the last time you hit a provisional? Is that like Bush's first term?

The older Bush's first term? I mean, he did. Seriously, when was the last time you had a provisional? I want to say last week, but I don't think I hit a provisional. No, there's no chance. There's no way at wing foot, unless the rough swallowed it. Yeah. I'm talking like maybe that's out of bounds provisional.

Can you think back to a time you hit it out of bounds on the PJ tour? Yeah, that's a good question. I mean, I hit it pretty straight and I've got one. I hit one out of bounds this year at Hilton Head. Did you? What hole? On the first hole, I blocked and hit the car. That hole's a demon.

And went into the backyard. That hole is a demon. That number one, that Harbor Town gives people fits. Yeah, I pushed it over those tree branches. And then it flew too far, hit the car path and went into their backyard. Jesus, nice cry, Chess. Yeah, sorry. Chop.

Tighten it up, bro. Number three. If Ches Revy wasn't a professional golfer, what would he be? Yeah, that's a good question. You had to be contemplating that for a while during no Mr. Hand injury. I thought about it. I just didn't come up with a whole lot of answers. Golf coach.

Yeah, no, I'm probably not a golf coach. I don't know, man. Maybe an MMA fighter. Yeah, a lot of hostility built up. Yeah, maybe a professional gamer? No, I'm not good enough of that. I'm not a good enough fighter, though, either, so that can't be. I'm not a good enough fighter, though, either.

Now that I think about it, I'd be fucked. All right. Phoenix Open guy, we actually already talked about the Phoenix Open. If it happens, which is being talked about, what's your walk-up song going to be on number 16 at the Phoenix Open? Walk-up song. Welcome to the jungle. Guns and Rose is from.

Okay. You are an old metal guy. I like hip-hop too, but yeah, I like kind of everything. I'm even getting into country nowadays. Hell, yeah. Bring it. You're morphing. You're morphing.

Cole, what would yours be? Because you might get a sponsors. We might get a sponsors. Play basketball. Something Garth, Brook. Thunder. Is it thunderstruck by Garth Brooks or whatever?

No, that's the thunder rolls. That's too slow. You have to be like Baton Rouge. There you go. Get Fleener to come out and sing for you. I just want Flaner to sing it for me. Yeah, all right. I heard that.

I actually heard him do that in New Orleans. We played with him. He's fantastic. It's unbelievable. He's so good. He just like, I mean, if we're walking down a street, like, say in Nashville and there's a karaoke bar, his body just, it goes right to it. It's ridiculous.

Like a dog. Over here. Over here. And it works, by the way. I found it's incredible. Yeah. You mentioned Call of Duty. I know you're big into it.

You got your man cave downstairs at your house. I can't imagine what your new man cave is going to look like. I can't wait, actually. It's a man palace. But it's also very popular on the PGA tour. Bryson DeShambos has been known to talk about it a lot. Harold Warner the 3rd. Where do you think you would rank on the PJ tour and Call of Duty?

Man, I don't know. I'd definitely be top 5, top 10 for sure. I mean, I don't know how much of those guys play. When I was hurt with my wrist injury, that's when I really got into it. I haven't played as much lately, so I'd have to play a little bit. But I'd definitely be up there. What's your name? Yeah.

What's your, what's your, whatever it's called? Mavrick. What is it? Is it just straight Maverick? Who did we ask that had something weird? Oh, Jeff Ogilvy. You got to get Ogilvie. Dude, I can't remember what it was.

It's something super weird as hell. He plays it. He just drinks wine and plays with his boys down in Australia. You might have to get on a weird time to catch him in Australia, but he's that. Rom's big into it, too. There's a whole pack. Is there like a pack of like, your PJ Tour guys? Let's all link up and be on the same team.

Yeah, you know who also is really good is Keegan Bradley's caddy. He plays probably more than anybody. Oh, Machine Gun, Chad. Chad. he's unbelievable and his kid's even better than he is of course yeah the game name's machine gun chad you're probably good at killing people in video games yeah yeah machine gun that's a good name for that all right next question we've been fluffing you a lot about your ball striking here today i want you get i want you to get too big of a head what's the worst shot you can ever remember

hitting on tour we're shot okay so this is my yes you have one yeah i mean unfortunately there was a lot of i hit a wedge on the fringe once i wanted to kill myself no so it was my first year Turn Pro, I got a sponsor spot in Vegas, and I was leading after two days, and I was like top 20 going into Sunday, and I got to 16, 16, yeah, in Vegas, and I made, I think I made like a 12. I went for the green and two, hit in the water, drop, spun it back in the water, drop, spun it back in the water, drop, spun it back in the water. I think I hit five balls in the water. I don't know exactly what the score was, but it was like a 12 or a 13 or whatever, and I actually had my first golf nightmares after that. The same spot I was in the drop area, and I got all the way up to a four iron, and I just smash it. go right to the end of the lake and then just drop straight in the water golf nightmares welcome nice to have you aboard the golf nightmare did you ever you ever think about just maybe hitting one more club no oh yeah I did actually after like two you think one in the water and then I yeah my other question was gonna be when's last time you shanked one shanked one do you have any shanked it not that I can recall I don't think I've I knew you wouldn't I knew you wouldn't I actually

whiffed one this year in Boston oh there we go now you're becoming relatable like a chip you went underneath it? Yeah, so it was the fourth hole, I believe, the drivable par four. And I hit it over the green, just into the rough. And it was sitting real high in the rough. And I was trying to hit a flop shot. I just went right under it and it just buried in the divot underneath the ball. Did you say that was a practice swing? Yeah, there. Was there any cameras around? Come on. You got to that off. All right, guys, I'm going to come up. Is anyone else going? Yeah, I couldn't fake it. I was laughing too hard because I just looked up and looked down. It was there. I backed off and just started laughing because I just couldn't believe I'd done it.

Nothing wrong with a little whiff. Dude, you haven't played golf you on a whiff. Yeah. All right. Number seven. You've been on tour a long time, 13 years. You've been through Tim Finchum, Jay Monaghan. Say you're next up, Commissioner Chess.

What's the first thing you're changing to the PJ tour? First thing I'm changing to the PJ tour. It can be a rule of golf. It can be something. Miss Fairway, two-shot penalty. Yeah, exactly, right? I think the first rule change would be moving the balls out of divets in the middle of Fairway. Great rule.

I do it anyway. popular rule I agree with my thing is just everyone's going to be like oh that's a divot oh that's a divot yeah no it has to be a very defined divot it can't be just you're the judge yeah yeah well bryson be down there saying well this particle of grass is going this way what about ants so that's definitely a divesty ants too those killer ants that are out there you got to get dropped from all right no divets that's a good that's a good rule i'm already doing that so i'm i'm ahead of my time all right here we go what do you think is the easier job cadding for you or being dust and johnson sports psychologist.

The easier job. I mean, York, we love York, but like, let's say, he doesn't have to do a whole lot. Hey, Chess, there's the hole.

You should hit it at it. And then give me 10%. Yeah. I think being Dustin's sports psychologist would be easier. I mean, he doesn't seem to overanalyze things. And, you know, if he plays bad,

he just plays bad, and then he wins the next week. It doesn't seem to sink in with him. So I don't think that would be a very tough job. Yeah, he's got the perfect brain for golf. He shoots 80, 80, 70, and then goes, win second, win second. Yeah, I mean, he just.

It's just perfect for golf. Hey, you might have a penalty here as you're leading the U.S. Open. Just keep playing. We'll tell you a little bit later. We'll tell you later if you're still winning or not, but we don't really know yet. Okay, I'll just do that. No one else would do that in the world. I'd be crumbled.

I'd be like, nope. I'd still be sitting there. I'm going to sit Indian style until you all tell me what my score is right now. All right. Put your thinking cap on. You're ready. This is number nine. I call it CPR.

Okay. You got a caddy. One of us is going to caddy for you for a year. You get to punch one of us in the face. and you have to room with one of us for a year. Caddy, punch, room, CPR. Me, Sleeze, Scott Harrington, go. That's easy.

If you punch me, I'm going to kill your ass. Wait, he said this is easy. I'm nervous. You didn't even think. All right, go. Slees is going to catty for me, and I'm definitely punching Scotty. Yes.

And you're rooming with him. That's fine? And you sleep like a little baby? Yeah. It's like the perfect situation for me. That's the right answer. That's 100% the right answer. Well done.

Dude, by the way, I'm nails on the bag. You ever need me? If I can carry for anyone on tour, it's your ass. I'm like, yeah, dude, Wedge, here you go. Make another tweet. Daddy needs a new pair of shoes. I love it. Well, Chez, that was a lot of fun, man.

Thanks for joining us. Yeah, guys. Thanks for me. Thank you, Chester. And that was the great Chez Revy. You know, so much fun to talk to him. Talking to a guy like that who, you know, in a game of bomb and gouge now, golf, a guy that still is, you know, he works his way around the golf course.

He can't overpower places. It's cool to get his insight on how the game of golf is right now. Yeah, especially coming off a place like Wingfoot where you would think his type of game would be the perfect game. for a place like that. And then speaking on what Bryson went and did, it was cool to get the inside of somebody who was actually there and could speak about the setup.

And because all the speculation about, is it okay what Bryson did or do you like seeing that? He was actually there. And I feel like every player that we've spoken to after the U.S. Open has like the utmost respect for what Bryson did and gives him a lot of credit for it where it's like the media is like, this is horseshit. You shouldn't be able to play a U.S. Open that way.

And it's not what it's all about. Yeah. I mean, he did it a different way. But like you said, it's cool talking to Chess, who was actually there and can vouch for what Bryson. did. Like, I mean, it's just, he played the golf course the way Bryson's supposed to play the golf course and he overpowered it and he won. But man, Chez, I just, I tip my hat to him all the time.

Coming from a guy who obviously doesn't hit it very far either, like I respect what Chez has done in his career so much because it is harder for guys like that to win and compete and for a guy like that just to stay out there year after year and, I mean, and compete. I mean, he went on in 2019, he went on a crazy run, you know, finished third at the U.S. Open, had another chance, wins the next week at the Travelers. It's just, it's so cool to see what he's done with his career. Yeah, and also it's so easy. You, you know, you were out there and you were obviously not the longest guy.

When I was playing, I was kind of average and I was played with guys that were super long. And I'd like, man, if I could just hit it long, it's easy to get sucked into the distance trap. Like, if I could just gain some more, you know what I mean? And get away from what you do well, trying to chase these distance guys. Chess really doesn't do it. He said he's trying to gain a little bit of mile per hour, you know, clubhead speed right now. But he's not out there trying to be something that he's not. And he's like, I'm going to hit every fairway or most of them.

at every green or most of them. And when I put well, I'm going to have weeks like I did last week or last year at Hartford and I can still win on this tour, doing it the way I do. So it's cool to see like a throwback guy in a game where pretty much the guys the top leaderboard every week are guys that just send it. And also very good news that he chose to punch Scott Harrington and not you or I. That was good. We were going to end the show right there if that answer came out incorrectly and never have him back. So yeah, he made the right choice. I love it. Thanks to Chess for sitting down with us. But Sleeves, we got some big news to tell everybody out there. This is large. Let's hear it.

I'm going to let you do the honors. All right. I'll launch it here for the first time since inception. Golf Subpar will be going on the road. We've been trying to get this done for a while. We had some trips lined up tentatively. Some were booked. Some were not.

COVID happens. Boom. The whole world gets wiped out. We haven't been able to get on the road. This week we will be leaving. We'll be heading to the great state of Texas and Dallas for arguably some of our biggest guests we've ever had on this show. We've had some good ones on this show.

First off, I'm really surprised they're letting us out of our cage. Correct. And second off, I can't believe. A few of these guys are sitting down with us to talk to us. Yeah, but it's going to be great. It'll be weird. I mean, we'll just tell y'all. We're bringing it.

We're bringing it. We got the great golf instructor Chris Como coming live from his house in his golf studio. The architect of the Bryson project. The Bryson DeShambo. We got a little quarterback coming on quarterback slash broadcaster. Tony Romo might have heard of him. Old number nine will be on golf subpar right where he belongs if he doesn't clam up in front of the mic. And then one last special guest.

Man who's won a green jacket, the golden child, Jordan Spieth. Can you believe it? No, not really. Honestly, I know we're like friends with some of these guys, but still to give us an hour plus of their time, sit down and do it. We're going on the road. This is what you've got to do

when you're the hardest working men and showbiz like we are. And this is going to be an unbelievable trip, man, to get all three of these guys to sit down with this. Has the potential to be some of the best shows we've done so far. And I think that's saying something with some of the guests we've had on. So I am hyped on it. And hopefully we get them loosened up a little bit and get into some things that we may not have heard before.

Yes, I can't wait. It's going to be fun. I'm so glad we're going on the road. Back to my home city. Yes, dude. I expect the parade to be waiting upon arrival. See that statue out there at Royal Oaks. I got to see what that bronze face looks like.

I'm going to deface the shit out of that thing somehow. I'm going to put bird feet all over your face and let the birds come in and do what they do. You do what you got to do. That's all right. But I cannot wait. Really appreciate everybody for green to sit down with us. It's going to be a lot of fun. And that's going to do it for us.

We'll talk to you on next week's calls Slip Park.