Subpar - Cody Ross Interview: Winning the World Series, his hole in one at Pebble Beach

Episode Date: February 23, 2021

On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar, retired MLB outfielder Cody Ross joins former PGA Tour pro Colt Knost and his close friend and on course rival Drew Stoltz for an exclusive, in-studio, interview. The 2010 NLCS MVP details his greatest athletic achievements, when he became a self-proclaimed golf nerd, and how much more pitchers were able to golf during road trips.

Hello world. Welcome to another week of golf subpar. Colt knows Drew Stoltz. Sleys, what a weekend for our guy, Max Homa. Man, how fun was that to watch? I mean, what a roller coaster that final nine was after 63 holes. It looked like Sam Burns might just cruise to his first ever PJJ tour, win, go wire to wire. And then fast forward, seven, eight holes. And all of a sudden, it's Max and Tony coming down the stretch. And there were some unbelievable shots being played. And there were some swings there that some things you didn't expect going on with the put on 18 clearly. But man, hard to play. pick which guy he went root for are those two, two of the best guys around. I know we've both been very, very high on Max as of lately. We play a lot of golf with him at Wishbarok. His game was trending. I said it all over the broadcast at Pebble Beach and said this guy is a top 20 player in the world. Look out for him this year. I think once he gets another win and realizes how good he is, the sky is the limit for this guy. And here he is. He's moved up to 38th in the world. And I'm telling you, I think that this guy is going to take off right now. Yeah, a little shot in

the arm of confidence will go a long way. And it's good to see that, like, you know, you and I play with him quite a bit here at home and we see it. I'm like, Jesus, dude. If this isn't good enough to win on tour, like, what's it take out there? I mean, we've been seeing it for a while and all of a sudden, here it is. And he's back in the winter circle second time. Could be a little snowball effect for him. I'm hoping it is. And I'll tell you this. So yesterday, our Sunday, I was sitting on the couch watching our boy, bring home the title. I was a little banged up from the night before. I had a long weekend. And I'm like, all right, this qualifies max for the WGC down in Florida. He's going to go to Florida. No. He flew home Sunday night.

You know what we did. We got amongst it. We had a celebration for him at our place, Bevy and Slees. That's why my voice is a little struggling a little bit today. Yeah, playing hurt. You got to do it. I was shocked when you and I were texting, and I just got back in town this morning, too. And I can't believe he's flying home for this.

I thought he'd be on the first thing smoking down to Florida and then, you know, play that WGC. But, hey, you got to celebrate your wins in this game. They're few and far between. So come home, get amongst it a little bit and have some fun with your boys. And when your boy wins, you act like you win as well. When the boys win, everybody wins. It was an absolute blast. Couldn't be happier for Max.

Big things coming. But we got another big event this week, the WGC workday, which we'll get to our picks here in a little bit. But, so these, an awesome guest we had in studio, World Series champ, Cody Ross was in the building. Yeah, man. We've been having a stretch of golfers here for a while. Nice to get Cody in here. We've talked about the jicky jacks of baseball, the minor leagues,

getting a nice little up-close look at that going forward. And I got it's also a huge golfer, like a lot of the baseball players. Since he's shut it down, he's playing all day. Every day, really good player. Dangerous right now. We'll talk about his handicap, but he's definitely dangerous. It's made one hole in one in his life, and it's at a pretty special place. Yeah.

Tough to be. You're going to want to hear this one. All right. Here's Cody Ross on Golf's Subpar. Okay. Our next guest spent 12 years terrorizing the big leagues. He won the 2010 NLCS MVP and the World Series as a member of the San Francisco Giants. He now flees his retired doctors out of their paychecks on the golf course.

He is Cody the boss, Rauss. What's going on, brother? What's up, fellas? Well, I would say I get my money taken more often than taking doctors. Well, you take the doctors and then give it to tour players. That's a good point. Yeah. So it all equals all.

It's like a reverse Robin Hood. Yeah, you come out either. But I gotta do, I gotta say, 2010, you did break my heart because, I mean, if I do watch baseball, it is the Texas Rangers and you had to go over and just slap them around in five games. Really hurt my feelings a little bit. I know. Well, you know what?

I'm actually a Ranger fan as well because I grew up in Texas. and as in Dallas, not too far from where Colt grew up. And my first games going were always to Ranger Stadium. I went to, you know, anytime I could ever go on, always go to the game, always go to the game. And so when I actually got to the big leagues, I never made it over to Texas for some reason to play. So the very first time I ever stepped off foot in the stadium after watching many, many games was during the World Series. And it was the most amazing. I'm like, I get goosebumps talking about it right now.

It was awesome. into the world series because I'm very interested. Let's go back a little bit to the beginning. I mean, Carl's Bad High School, New Mexico, right? Yeah. I mean, you get drafted straight out of high school. First off, I want to know, what was it like walking around senior year in high school? You had to know when you're going straight to the bigs where the girls just throwing themselves at you?

Well, yes. And that metropolis of Carlsbad in Mexico. Yes. So, like I said, I grew up in Dallas. My parents moved me back. my freshman or eighth grade year in high school and middle school going back to new mexico's that's where my family's from and then you know we just that was our home and so i excelled in baseball and you know was i i thought well i was the best player in the world honestly like in new mexico there's not

too many great baseball players so i was like literally the best player like i thought like they're like i'm the next nolan ryan and so except i hit And I pitched too, though. And I pitched too, though. He hit people in the face. Yeah, he did. He did. So I walked around like I, you know, was the greatest thing in the world.

And yeah, so I got drafted. And being from a small town, we had, you know, 35, 30,000 people. It's a huge, actually, really big baseball program. So there was a lot of players before me that made it professionally. A couple made it to the big leagues. So there was a lot of history that went back. but it was just a really cool experience. Everybody in the town knows who I am because, you know, like I said, it's 30,000 people.

The next closest town is 30 minutes away. So it's like there's a sign when you drive in. It says home of World Series champion Cody Ross. On both in. That's when you know you made it. It's like varsity blues of baseball. Pretty much. Yeah.

Whip cream bikinis, all that good shit. Yeah. In Albuquerque. You got picked in the fourth round out of high school. What's like the barrier of, like, okay, I'm going to turn pro right at high school or, no, I might pursue college. So I signed to go to Arizona State here. I stepped one foot off that plane and onto that campus and went, sign me up. Yeah, sign me up. Yeah. Sign me up. Pretty easy to do.

Pretty easy. Can't imagine why. Yeah. And so the day the draft came, I actually, before that, back up, you know, for the whole, my whole senior year, I had scouts coming in telling me how great I am, blah, blah, and you know, you're going to go in maybe the first second round. I said, Well, if I don't go, if I don't, you know, go on the top three rounds, I'm not signing. I'm going to Arizona State. So literally, I get a call. I'm in actually Cancun, Mexico. I'm on my senior trip.

And I get a call in the hotel. And I'm laying in bed, like, I'm asleep. And I get, like, the phone rings and I can answer it. And so, hey, my name's Jim O'Lander. I'm from the Detroit Tigers. And we just drafted you in the fourth round. Congratulations. And I, like, I was dead silent.

First of all, I'm like, is this a dream? Like, I'm, you know, not. I'm hungover. I'm like, you know, I'm like, all right, Jim. I said, thanks for the call, but I told you if I didn't get drafted in the first three rounds, I'm going to Arizona State. So I appreciate it. Like, hung up.

I'm like, I'm going back to sleep. I was so mad. I'm like, what's going on? I told everybody. Well, I had zero intentions in going to college. Like, all I want to do is play professional baseball since I was this big. So we came to a agreed term and ended up gone, and that's a whole different story. How does that work because you can get drafted, but then you can say, okay, never mind, I don't want to go.

I'm going to go to college. Correct. It's not like that in every other sport. No, yeah. So you have until a certain date, it's like end of July or maybe the beginning of August to come to terms with the team. If you don't, then you have to go to college. Or you can go, you don't actually have to go to college. You can go play, D, or like Juco.

Which you can take one year and then try it again. So, yeah, baseball is a crazy. It's hard to follow when it comes up. Juco, you can go pro right after one year, but if you go to like a Division I, like an Arizona State, what is it, two years you got to stay there, two or three? When I was, I don't know what it is now, but when I was, I would have had to go go and I would have gone three years and I'm not, that's worth too long. Yeah, I think that might be what it still is.

And if you did go, would you've had, would you've gone back in the draft again? Correct, yeah. Or did Detroit still have your right? No, I would have went back to the draft. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah, that's why a lot of like the stud baseball player went one year juco because they might not like where they got drafted out of high school.

Exactly. One year later, they throw heat and they're like, okay, now you're going to. Yeah, you're the first pick. Yeah. Well, let's get to this because I think one thing we're very interested about is, you know, we compare minor league baseball to the jickey jacks of golf, you know, the meeting tours, traveling around, rooming together with people, you know, not the most glamorous lifestyle, which I would imagine that's what minor league baseball is a little bit about, and probably

the most fun you've had in your career. Absolutely. Tell us a little bit about, what's it like? Okay. Yeah, I mean, that's a great question. So everyone thinks that baseball is all glitz and glamour. you see the TV and you know you guys are making millions of dollars well you have to start somewhere right and so i got drafted i went into um lakeland florida and i was literally one out of 500 and it was like

i i'm like oh my gosh all these people these guys are monsters they're huge and i'm like how am i ever gonna make it you're 18 years old i'm 18 years old and i'm in florida and i'm by myself so that first year was a real struggle for me i you know didn't do oh so well um hitting why Well, luckily I was drafted high enough that I got multiple opportunities. Well, the next year I went to West Michigan, which is in Grand Rapids, Michigan. It's called the what we were called the West Michigan White Caps. Now this is, now it was real baseball. Like I'm playing in a stadium with, you know, maybe 5,000 people watching each game.

And it's a bunch of 18, 19, 20 year old kids. And it was one of the most amazing experience in my life. I mean, I'll never forget, I got my first check. I got my first check and it was, I cleared $227. And I'm like, let's go. We're having a night. I'm getting paid to play baseball. This is the most surreal thing in the world.

And, you know, most people would look at him, be like, wow, what are I supposed to do with this? But I was like, wow. Like, let's get after. We've made it. It was gone within like an hour after I got it. What's the traveling like in that when you're going on game? Is that plane? Is that bus? Are you staying multiple guys in a hotel room?

Yeah, so A ball. So there's different levels of A ball. Rookie ball is the first level. Then they have short season A ball. And then there's mid-A and then there's high A. And then there's a double A, triple A, and then the big leagues. And it differs a little bit from organization or organization. But the Detroit Tigers, the organization I was with, we rode the bus all the way through

until we got to the AAA. So, like for example, West Michigan, closest trip was like two hours on the bus and then our longest trip was like 15 hours oh my that's a good way to get ready to play when i think of minor league baseball i think of the movie bull durham yes and i hope you tell me that's somewhat realistic because i love that movie i love everything about that is that realistic absolutely yes i mean everything everything every part of that is realistic that is it's yeah it is i mean that's why it's one of our favorite I mean, if you ask most baseball guys, it's like that's one of our most favorite movies because it is so realistic.

Yeah, the producer is the guy that did 10 Cup. He actually played minor league baseball. So he's like, yeah, those stories are like literally some of those are taken from his playing days. Yeah, absolutely. Which is sweet. As much fun as that was, I imagine that moment you got the call up in 2003. I mean, that's a dream come true. And I've always been interested.

How does that work? Do they call your cell phone? Does the minor league manager call you in? How does it all happen? Well, back in 2003, we had pagers. So, perfect. Two ways. Two ways.

No. So I'll never forget it. I was, we were in Louisville, Kentucky. And this is what's terrible about AAA is when you have travel days, you're always on that first flight out in the morning going to wherever you're going. So we were actually going from Louisville to Toledo. Ohio and so I get the call or I didn't get the call my manager I see him it's like 530 in the morning everyone's like this and they're you know their seat in the airport and everyone's tired and I'll see them my manager get on the phone I'm like he's talking to it 530 in the morning

and he's like okay okay and then he hangs up and he comes like walking over to me and he looks at me and and I'm like sitting on my chair and he goes Cody he goes he goes he's got to tell you something. He goes, you're going to the pros. And I go, pros, I am in the pros. He's like, you're going to the big leagues. He goes, I always wanted to say that. You're going to the pros. And I'm like, holy. And then after that, I'm like, oh, my gosh, this is like the most unbelievable, like from then on, this was July 4th, 2003. And we were going, the team was going to, or in Kansas City. And from then on, since when he said that, it was just like, ma-wa-wa-wa-wa-wa-wa-wa. He was trying to tell me everything that was going on.

It was just like I was trying to think of like everything I was supposed to like do and talk, you know, call my girlfriend and my parents and everybody to try to get to Kansas City as fast as possible. And anyway, I had to fly from Louisville to Toledo, Toledo to Kansas City. And I barely got there by game time and I was in the starting lineup. Oh, my. You were right in the gate. It threw me right in there. Wow. Yeah, I didn't know that part and it was the like everything like I said it was it went everything was going a million miles an hour

I mean as soon as I land I'm going there giving me my uniform and giving me like my bats and this and like oh what are you what else do you need and I'm just like I need a breath And anyway it was it was One of the greatest experience what's that like when you step on the field the first time because your whole life you've been preparing to get there It's it's probably like I would I would compare it to like getting the first PJ tour start because you know like you're so excited to be there everything's going a million miles an hour you're thrilled to be there but you know like if i don't show up and perform in this little window of opportunity that i'm getting like it's straight back down like it's almost you can kind of cripple yourself like trying too hard absolutely and so when when i remember standing in the outfield and i was thinking oh my gosh

i mean the place was absolutely just jam-packed because even though kansas city sucked at the time like and so did we um july fourth is the biggest baseball day and So the place was jam-packed. And I remember looking up and going, I've never seen a third row from this perspective. And that's what kind of gets most baseball guys. It's like you add that third tier, that third deck, people freak out.

So we're used to the two, you know, the swan at the bottom and then one maybe a little higher. But when you had that upper deck, it's like, oh boy. Like you know you've made it. And that's when you start getting a little tight, you know. And so I remember thinking, First of all, it's hard to pick up the ball in the outfield because it never goes in the sky. And, you know, we're so used to the ball flying up in the sky in the big leagues.

It doesn't get in the sky. It just stays in the stand. So the debt perception's tough. And I remember thinking, oh, boy, I don't, don't zoo a ball right here, you know. And, you know, it's almost like, you know, probably I would assume getting on tour for your first time. You're like, all right, don't snap hook this thing and be too quick or, you know, whatever goes through your head. but I just remember being really nervous. But then once I got into the plate and I thought I was going to be the most nervous

is when I actually calmed down. And I'm like, okay, I've been here before. I've been here before. Probably standing in the on deck circle was probably the most nervous. Absolutely. You're exactly right. Listen to the people chirping and, you know, seeing the millions of people. I'm just like, oh, boy, this is nerve-wracking.

And you get in that game and in the sixth inning, you get Bean, and you got to leave the game. Who's the ass face that hit the kid, the rookie in his first game ever had him to leave the game. You know, it's, I can't remember the guy's name, but he was my teammate afterwards, and I told him the story. And so I was always, um, I was always like known for being like this hard nose like ball player because I had to be, you know, smaller, you know, I had to play harder, work harder. You do everything harder, be, be tougher than everybody. And I'll never forget. I get hit and I got hit like literally, like right in the back of my, um, like lower back. where like there's nervous and i and i he hit me and he threw like 88 and it wasn't it wasn't too

bad and so yeah exactly so i'm like running down to first and i'm like all of a sudden i'm like oh my gosh i can't fill my left leg and so i get on first and i'm telling my coach i'm like i can't fill my leg and he's like what do you mean you can't feel your leg i'm like it's numb i can't fill it and he's like well he's like you're going to have to deal with it and so i get off and I'm like the guy hit next to me hits a base hit and I'm like barely getting to second. And so the trainer comes out and he's like, you're all right? And I'm like, no, I said, I can't fill my leg. I cannot fill it.

And so they pull me out of the game and oh my gosh. Like did I, I heard it from all the veteran guys like, oh, we thought you were some tough, hard nose player. Like, you know, you're just as soft as every one other kid that comes up here. And I'm just like, no. And I was supposed to start the next day. and I got out of bed and I couldn't, it was still, like I was, I remember going to the mall because I had to get a jacket to wear on the plane on the ride home because I didn't have a jacket,

like a sports coat. And I'm walking around the mall and I'm like, I'm hobbling and I'm like, oh my gosh, this isn't good. I'm not going to be able to play it. And I had to pull myself out of the lineup again. First game. First game. You do anything to stay in that game.

Anything. Anything. And it was the weirdest thing. I've been hit a million times, but never. Had I ever been hit where it, besides like breaking a hand or something, but hitting like in the lower extremity where it caused me to come out. Was it on purpose? The beam?

No, no, no, no. Nate Fields. There you go. Thanks, Nate. Yeah. Ass face. Who's a guy that beamed you that when he got you? You were like, oh my God, this is a problem.

Well, so. Other than the one that. They all seem like a problem. So when I was with, sorry, when I was with the Marlins, we used to have a lot of beef with the New York Mets. And there was a guy named Mike Pelfrey. And he, for whatever reason, just did not like me. And it was probably the homers that I used to pimp and, like, you know, jogging around the base.

But every time I'd come into town and we had to face him, he'd always hit me. And he threw hard. He threw like 95 to 97 and with some nasty sink. And he'd always, like, throw a little slider off the plate. And then bam! I'd be like, oh. And I remember one time I'm like, this dude is a monster, by the way. Like he is probably 6, 7, 2, 40, and he looks, I mean, he's jacked.

And I'm like, I thought about it for one split second to just going at him. And I'm like, nope. I'm going on. But I did, I did like getting chirp at him. You know, I played the, you know, a little. What's the, where's the worst place to get? Obviously, the head would suck. I mean, you got a helmet.

I feel like the ribs probably right in there. Or the hand probably. The hands are terrible. But you know, you learn how to take pitches over as far as like how to react and try to make it not hurt as bad over time. And it's almost like a little bit of an art. But yeah, I would say the ribs are probably the worst. Although, you know, some guys have a little more meat on them than.

If you're going to be an asshole, you better learn how to take a pitch. That's the worst feeling at it. just getting in the box, knowing like, this dude's probably going to beam me. That's, I mean, that is a bad feeling. That's a bad feeling. Yeah, I'd really distract me out. Oh, dude, I mean, that's... Well, that's what ends up happening usually.

It's like, if you go into the box thinking, all right, these guys, I know that he's going to drill me. Because of whatever happened in the last game or the last time we're in town or whatever, you just have that mentality going into your, in the box, you're toast because... I don't even think we're not hitting it. You can't even swing. That's what, like, if I was the Astros, like, you know, starting back last season after all the stuff that happened. after all the stuff that happened, even if you weren't a part of the team, I would be like, guys, I had nothing to do with last year.

Please don't hit me. Exactly. I wasn't here, buddy. It wasn't here. Nothing to do with this. But I thought one of the cool things I learned about you is you're one of the few guys who bats right-handed throws left-handed. Ricky Henderson was another.

But let me ask you this. A couple of the greats. Would you say, yeah, exactly. Would you say you throw better right-handed or bat better left-handed? Man, that's a really good question. I would say I would say I'd have, I would say I'd, that better right-handed. Yeah.

Although I did pitch a little bit in professional baseball. I mean, I pitched in the big leagues one inning, but I pitched, they actually wanted me to be a two-way player when I was younger, like 20, like my second year in the big leagues. I mean, in the minor league baseball, they wanted me to be a two-way player, but I was too small. I threw just hard enough. I threw like 90.

So it was like if I threw like if I was a if I was like 95 they would be like okay Let's let's do this but I was just like just okay I mean I probably could have made it work But I would say hitter you threw a scoreless or you pitched a scoreless inning though didn't you Yeah it's my claim to fame Defending world series champion Philadelphia Phillies faced Ryan Howard Jason Worth Pedro Felice and rio lobanes and the only guy who got a hit off me was my good buddy Jason Worth. He, like, he served him one up.

No, I threw a change. I had him, like, he was weird. It was actually a good battle, and I threw him a change up, and he, like, assed out, like, and, like, hit it off the end of his bat, and it rolled a short, and our shortstop was Hanley Ramirez, and he was lazy. Obviously his fault. So he, like, picked it up. That's a picture now.

He went into a pitcher. Thude it up, and, like, oh, man. That's the hit. That was the hit. That was the hit. Still the lowest ERA in baseball history, whatever. Yeah, for sure. Well, I got to talk to you about Joe Girardi

Because from what I read, I'm not a big fan of Because as a lot of people probably know Me and you kind of share the same style. We don't have much up the top. We've got a nice beard, right? So you go to what's now Miami. Yeah, whatever. Florida.

It's Florida to me. Florida to me. To me too. The Marlins. And it's still Mike Stan. It's not Giancarlo's Stan. I played with Mike Stanton. Okay, perfect. I love that we get this all out there.

But you know, Joe Girardi, you know, he's a Yankee and all this. And he comes down there and he has this no facial hair. And you walk in and he says, you got to shave your beard. And then he tells the media, maybe you can put it on top of your head. Yeah, that's exactly what he said. I mean, how?

First off, up, yeah. So offensive. Yeah. It's a good way to get on the side of your man. Yeah. Right? Yeah.

It's exactly. We're on the same team here, Joe. Yeah. Like, don't insult me. You know, it was, so it was actually Jeffrey Loria, who's the owner or was the owner of the, um, of the, uh, of the Marlins back then. It was his role and it was Joe following it.

Oh. But Joe. being a Yankee guy. That's what I just said. He brought it. Jeffrey was like a poor man's Steinbrenner. So he was trying to follow

He was a baseball team but he's poor man. He was trying to follow suit and yeah that was that pissed me off. What happens though like let's say All right you played later in your career with Brian Wilson one of the great beards in all sports? What happens if he goes get shipped to Florida?

Is Joe Jarrett really going to come in and be like hey take that off? He's going to be like no. What happens then? Yeah so it's happening. He ain't shaving that. It's happened quite a few times. I mean, you remember Johnny Damon going from the Red Sox to the Yankees. Didn't even recognize him.

Yeah, and it's like you, and it's just one of those things. Like, it's their rule and it's so stupid. Garrett, is it Garrett or Jerry Cole? Had to shave his coming from Houston to the Yankees. Yeah. You're stripping these guys' personalities. Yeah. Exactly.

Well, we're players managers. That's right. Listen, I need the beard. Me too. You can actually have a very guy. The beard. You guys have a very similar aesthetic in terms of up top. I know.

Once you get above the neck. I had my old PJ tour credential. I had a picture of me, no beard and no hat on. And Roy McRoy comes up one day and grabs it. He looks like he goes, you should keep the beard. He just throws it. Cover up as much. Shut up, Lori.

Dickhead. Oh, that's awesome. That's fine. I can't believe that make you shave. I know. You're baseball player. I mean, come on. Yeah, dude.

We're just dudes out here. They used to like make us, like, do all kinds of stuff. Like, oh, I remember when I was with the Dodger? I can't remember. It doesn't matter what team it was. But one team, we all had to wear our socks. up, like our pants up. Oh, yeah.

You could not, me too. I love, I always wore mine up. I always, yeah. Stirrup's didn't fit me. I didn't use rubber bands. But they have, you know, I think nowadays, it's kind of those kind of rules are kind of with the whole cancel culture thing. You're kind of going out the window.

So I think nowadays it's going to, you know, whatever. It used to be you can only wear a certain color shoe. Like you could only wear black shoes. Or you, um, the Royal. and maybe one other team were the only teams that could wear blue. And then the A's were the only teams that could wear white. But now it's like you can wear whatever the hell you want. Like there's anything.

Anything goes. You get paid by a lot of sponsors. You wear whatever you want. I always wonder. What if Manny Ramirez went to the, you know what I mean? They're going to start making Manny do all this stuff. I was like, one of these days, one of the dudes is like, nah. I do what I do.

If you want me to hit bombs, I'm going to do it with some facial hair and no stirrups. And they're going to be like, all right, then you're 30 million of years gone. Oh, never mind. You know what? You know, I'm thinking of getting rid of this anyways. You want me to do it or you want your barber to come in and do it for me? I don't really care that much. I want to ask you this, because we talk about you getting called up, right?

You get called up for four games, then you go back down. But when you get called back up again, first game back, or your first home run, I should say, Grand Slam, right? Your first home run is a big leaker, is a grand slam. And then later in the game, you tear your ACL. So your first game ever, you get beaned and have to leave. Then you come back, hit a salami. And then you tore you at this point, are you like, shit, I'm just cursed.

I'll never get to stay up here. Pretty much. Yeah, I'll never forget that I mean it was one of the most The greatest experience in my life My first at bat like you said I come up hit a grand slam Come up my second at bat

I hit a double off the wall And so I'm like I'm two for two with Four RBI And maybe I even drove in another RBI That same game with six total bases And I'm like I'm like this on max contract Let's go

Let's go And then so I think it was like the six or seventh inning I come back up again, and I look down to the third base coach, and he's, like, running through all the signs and, like, doing that. I'm like, I'm going. I'm like, do it again. And he's, like, running through the signs again.

And I'm like, he just gave me the bunt again? Like, bunt, two for two with, you know, salami. And I'm like, we're winning by a run. And I'm like, all right, I'm the young guy. Like, I got to do what I got to do, right? So I lay down this perfect bunt to thommy. third and I'm running to first and and freaking third baseman comes up, fills it and throws it to first baseman.

Well, the first baseman, like, it was a bad throw. He jumps right on top of the base. Like, I can't, I have nowhere to go. So I'm either going to plow him or try to jab step around him. Well, I chose the ladder. Try to jab step around him. When I did it, my knee went, pop. And I'm like, oh, my gosh.

So I'm laying on the ground. And I knew something. I'd never blow my knee. but I'm like I pretty much this is not good so I'm laying on the ground and Alan Trammell was my manager at the time and Kurt Gibson was our bench coach and Trammel comes running up and he like he looks over me and he's like you're right you're right and I looked at him and I go why'd you make me bunt yeah of course dude did you not see my last two at bad thing and he looked at me he's like I'm sorry yeah you better be yeah you only 30 million

how soft did your teammates think you are though Oh, my God. This guy's played four games, had two season endings, injuries already. He did a bomb. He didn't hit a slum. Let's fast forward to 2010. You're at San Francisco Giants.

Like I said earlier, you beat the Texas Rangers in the World Series, but NLCS MVP, I mean, you were just on a roll. You were, I mean, the city was just obsessed with Cody Ross. By the way, the Toy Cannon. How could you not be?

Toy Cannon. Yeah, I was going to get to that a little bit later. We'll save it. We'll save it. But for those of us who will never participate in a World Series, What is that adrenaline, the nerves, everything like leading it, compared to like a regular game? Yeah.

So, I mean, from the beginning of the playoffs, it's every pitch matters because, and the whole goal, obviously, is to make it to the World Series. And when the World Series, I mean, for every kid, that's why we all played baseball when we were young, right? Like, what did you want to do? You want to play in the World Series and win it. Win the Masters. Right, you want to win the Masters, right? So it's like every dream that I have. was leading up to that moment and and every single pitch was like life or death and it was you know

normally when you're in a regular season game and you know a guy strikes out you know you know we'll get them next time whatever like if the guy strikes out you're like no we have to get him now we can't wait for another end like we have to get this guy we have to get this guy over we have to get him in we have to figure out a way to manufacturer run because you know when you're playing against the best and the the Rangers were so good that year. I mean, they were incredible. I mean, they went back to back World Series, which is crazy and lost.

Like, that's got to be heart-shattering. Peeved off one of them, but that's a good story. It's a tough break for the fans and the players. I mean, never get over it. Ever. And so I just remember every single pitch and every single at bat, every moment, just being the, like, biggest, I mean, one little error is,

turns into this massive thing, you know, or is like a regular season game. It's like, well, or it's like, Like, it'd be, I guess in your guys's terms would be like if you're in, you know, a web.com tour event or not web, a corn fairy tour event and you smoked one out of bounds. And, you know, you're just like, oh, I just hit another ball of bounds. I've done that a million times. But you do it whenever you're leading at the masters and, you know, or you hit one in the water.

And you're like, I mean, every single shot is something. I would have to imagine like even like the vibe and the atmosphere in the clubhouse before. a World Series game has to be slightly different than a little more on edge probably not as much joking around we tried to keep it as much as we possibly could like it was just normal and and and I can tell you this one thing too is like all my family was in town obviously all my family I mean people that I didn't even know were showing like showing up by the you know you know you know you don't even know yeah yeah I need some tickets exactly and so instead of like just going like focusing and like oh I got to get back go to sleep no I was out every night like how I was out every night like

having pops with the family and like going going oh that part of the story yes like literally getting in bed at like 2 a.m. going oh man I'm not going to feel good tomorrow you know and like waking up like all right we got a world series game like it's like adrenaline gets rid of a hangover quickly yes yeah so yeah that mean it's definitely the most amazing experience that I've ever experienced sports wise I'm besides my whole and one at pebble on number seven thank you very much we were going to get to that no room I mean hey baby steps here fell we They haven't got to golf yet. When you got shipped, though, to the Giants, they were obviously really good.

I think they were contending for the title with the Dodgers at the time. You were going there, but they had a starting right field there, Jose Gion. Did you go there? No one. All right, well, this is a team that has a chance that win in the World Series, but I might not even be starting because Jose has that spot right now. Correct. Is that like, what is that? Bitter sweet?

Like, I might win a series, but I also might not get to play. Yeah, I mean, I was actually not having a great year when I was with the Marlins when they shipped me over to the, to the giants. And what happened was is the pardres actually needed a center filter. Mike Cameron, I think, was their center

filter. He went down and they needed somebody to come in and replace him and I thought I was going there. All the rumors said, oh, Cody's going to the Padres and blah, blah, blah. And next thing you know, I'm on waivers and the Giants claim me. And

there was all this talk about them. They did it to block the Padres from doing it because the Padres were right. Actually, the Padres were leading at the time. They were up like four or five games on them in the division. And so I got to, I get, I get all my stuff. I pack it up and go to San Francisco and I'm like, I don't even know anything really about the San Francisco. I know they're really good and they've had a pretty good season.

And so on the way over, I'm looking at the plan, I'm looking at the roster. I'm going, outfielder, outfielder, outfielder, outfielder, outfielder. I'm like, where am I going to play? I mean, they have all these like really good players and like six outfielders. I'm like, where am I fitting in this scenario? So I get there and Boch was really good and he was like, listen, I'm going to do everything I can to get you in the lineup in situations that you're going to succeed, blah, blah, blah. And I talked to Ryan Saban, who's the who was the GM at the time.

And he was like, listen, all those rumors you heard about, you know, us blocking you from going to San Francisco or from the Padres is they're all wrong. We wanted you. That's why we got you. And he was very adamant about letting me know, like, this is, we wanted you here. And I'm like, so he made it feel, they made me feel super welcome. And the players were so good about making me feel welcome. And but then I had to like, like, fork my way into the lineup.

I'm like, I earn it now. And luckily, Gian got pop steroid. So I got in there. He was hurt, but yeah, so I had human growth hormone like ship. To them, they intercepted it. Exactly what happened. That's awesome. So you end up winning.

Obviously, the celebration's huge. You got the parade in downtown San Francisco. Know you're a big bourbon guy. Yes. What was the bourbon choice? Back then, I wasn't such a big bourbon guy. Although Captain Morgan paid me like a lot of money to do their stance on the float. And so captain, and they gave me it for free.

And they said, we'll give you Captain Morgan for life. Well, I saw it for like a year. and then I never got any after that. We need that. Yeah, exactly. That's a lawsuit. That is a lawsuit. No, but anyway, I did that thing.

But, you know, I think that if I had to, you know, obviously, if I was to do it all over again, and now that I am a urban guy, obviously, I have to open up a pappy 23 and, you know, go at it. Yeah, that's probably the way to do it. How fun was that, like, because that thing, not, of course, winning the World Series, everybody's going to have fun, but that team, like, they wrote the book, what was it, the band of misfits or something like that. You had some characters on that team. What was that?

How long did that celebration go on? It's still going. What kind of weird shit was happening with like Linsicum and Brian Wilson? He was like one of the craziest dudes. He is. I mean, the ringleader was Pat Burrell. I was going to say,

you can't forget about it. This guy is the greatest of all time. I mean, the stories, you guys should have him in here one time. He is absolutely incredible. I mean, his stories are phenomenal. He was our, the machine.

I mean, his ring, he's, he was the ringleader. He was the guy that, you know, was all, I mean, and not only was he an amazing baseball player, but, uh, and a partier, but he, his baseball knowledge is second to none. He is the most incredible human, um, when it comes to baseball and just his love for the game. It was just amazing. But anyway, his, his, he was the ringleader, obviously Wilson. We had Aubrey Huff and, you know, Linsecum and, you know, just. just a group of crazy, crazy guys that we had so much fun together. And, you know, I think Wilson called us the four horsemen between me and him and Burrell

and Aubrey Huff. Like, we had some good times. A squad of weirdos on that team, which is the best. Like that old Red Sox team. That's awesome. Well, we can talk about baseball a day, but we are a golf podcast. Can I get one more baseball in because I know you got some good ones about this? You're always the energy guy in the locker room.

That's kind of your reputation that's followed you. You were the great locker room guy, but long seasons. I know you got some good prank stories. Baseball teams, how much time you got, some of the best pranksters out there? Give us some of the best, like, baseball pranks you were a part of. You know, there was so many that it's so hard to remember them all. But I do remember one in particular that actually we got on, we got it on film. We were in San Diego, and it was we had this, we, HBO followed us after we won the World Series.

was in 2011 and they followed us to you know just document our whole season which it was a disaster by the way but we decided we were going to prank Aubrey Huff down in Mexico or in San Diego said that we told him that his credit card was stolen in Mexico and we that there was all this stuff that was put on it and like the feds are involved. and all this crazy. And he, I mean, he was,

like, freaking out. Like, he was calling his wife, like telling her like, hey, babe, you know, like,

I don't know what's going on, but he was, like, worried about, like, I mean, everything. And that was one of the better ones.

I can't remember. It was so long ago that I can't remember the, like, the details, but it's documented and you go watch it. It's actually pretty funny.

What was the HBO dot called? Remember? Nope. Okay, perfect. It must have been a banger. It must have been a hit. It's something like that. It's something like that.

All right. Well, let's get into a little golf. First off, you're out there in San Francisco, which is, I mean, pretty good. A little area for golf. What's your handicap right now? I'm a, I'm a three. But a strong, you were almost embarrassed to say that. He texted me last night, and he's like, I'm a three and I'm dangerous right now.

I'm pretty dangerous. If anybody's looking for a memory guest partner, hit me up. When did you start in golf? You know, I've started taking it. I played a lot with my. dad um coming back from the seasons in baseball i would you know start playing with him just messing around didn't really um know what i was doing i had obviously a ton of power and i was just hitting it everywhere and um just enjoyed it more for um social aspect with my dad and just being with him and my brother

and stuff and friends but um once i really once i retired in 2015 i really started like like i'm a i'm I'm literally a golf. Yeah. Like I, I know swings that and what, you know, not to do and what to do. And I'm too much into it. Like, I was listening to Derek Anderson's,

y'all's deal with him the other day when he was in. And like I'm, I might be even more of a nerd than he was. Wow, that's a false statement. And I practice probably more than he does too. Just I do it quietly. I go the,

well, you don't have the coaches and everything. I don't. I've never taken a lesson. You don't have chappies. And you don't have the mental freakouts that DA has when he hits a bad It's a great point. It's all over.

Yeah, that's a high level of golf nerd. Yeah, and so you're out there in San Fran. I mean, I'm guessing you didn't play a ton of golf during the season. I didn't, but when I coached with them in 2017, I played a lot. Okay, so you got, I mean, you got Harding Park. You got Olympic. Lake Merced, San Francisco Golf Club. We can even throw pebble and stuff in there, even though it's down the road a little ways.

Give me Cody Ross's favorite golf course in the Sanford area. My all-time favorite golf course in San Francisco is Cal Club. Really? Oh, yeah. It is. I mean, I've played my golf course. I played them. Yeah.

Home of the Pout Pout. It's right. I played them all and that one for me is just special. It's really hard. All that golf up there is hard. It goes nowhere. It's like landing on the moon when you get down. If you never been there and you go out to those places and you see a 6,900 yards, you're like, okay.

It's a pitching butt. Now. No. Then you're hitting 5 iron from 170. You're like, okay. It plays. It plays the other way. Yeah.

It plays the other way. Yeah. But you referenced earlier a very special shot at Pebble Beach. Number seven. Take us through that. because it was on film and everything. I got it on film and besides baseball,

you know, winning the World Series, hitting my first home run, hitting my first Grand Slam, or, you know, I had a home run in the World Series against the range. Like all these things that I feel like

are my huge accomplishments in sports. Like the most not, like the best one for me being a non, and a non-baseball deal is hitting, is making that whole. one at Pubble, which was, I mean, I've never made one.

And to do it. Oh, that's the first one there. First one ever. Yeah. And to do it on that hole and to have it on video. Why was it being filmed? I was doing a USGA event for the US Open. Okay.

They invited some, you know, local washed up celebrities from San Francisco. So I played with that day with like Randy Wynn and, you know, those other like football guys and, you know, some basketball guys there. but actually what's his name barstle guy was there. Riggs. Exactly. Everybody forgets his name. Yeah.

He's not that guy. I was worried you're going to blow your ACL out on 9th, fairway. I was like, anytime he does something good, it leads to a career. Yeah, so I hit, it was like 97 yards. The tee was up a little bit, 97 yards. My caddy that I had was like, listen, the wind was blowing from right to left. And he was like, if you want to get this close, you're going to have to take it over the edge of the grain,

which is the ocean. And I'm like, all right, well, I'm not here to lay up. So I hit this perfect shot. And on video, you can see it. Like, it goes, like, right behind the hole. And I, like, I thought I dunked it. I'm like, oh. And then all of a sudden I see it hit and it rips back and it went in.

And I throw my club in the air. And it was just. How about that, though, to get it documented. Pretty cool, dude. I mean, just probably a lot of people are like, I made a whole one and seven to pebble. Like, okay, dude, sure. Right. And the first one, too.

Yeah. First one. First one. And only one. I actually don't ever want to make it up. Well, there'll be no topping. It won't. Unless you can go to Augustus.

Well, the odds are in your favorite. Yeah. Thanks, Col. You're safe, but you see me playing. Mountain Shadows. I don't even think you can get it. I don't, I don't, I never play Mount Shadows just for that. Did you play, sorry, did you play with any clubs where the pitchers, like the Braves or the

famous team were like Maddox, Glav and Smoltz, they would all go out and play on the road in between starts. Did you play in any clubs where the pitchers were going out and playing golf while you were on, out on the road? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, most, most, most, most, places, most teams that I was with, the pitchers, at least two of them would go out and play every city. And I always told myself when I got later in my career that I wanted to do that because we're going to cities that I will never travel to you to go play golf.

Like, for example, Pittsburgh. When I'm in Pittsburgh, I'm like, I'm taking my clubs. Like, I'm going to go play Oakmont and I'm going to go play, you know, all the great places in Pennsylvania that are close to there. And I'm like, I never did it. Because the last thing I wanted to do was be outside and, you know, be on my feet for four hours. And I just want to be in, like, hotel room and watch movies and order room service. And so I never end up doing it. I regret it to this day. The other players, like, resent the pictures being that they got to show up and, like work out and do things and can't play. And then the pitches are out there. Like, oh, yeah, I'm playing Oakmont today. And then we go play the Phillies. I'm going to play Pine Valley.

Like, that's got, do they get pissed at that? We are jealous that they're doing it. And then as soon as they start sucking, and then we're pissed. Then we're like, instead of going out and playing golf, once you go pitch. Yeah, once you throw a few innings. But you play at home here at Wishbrook. You play with a lot of tour players, Kevin Chappell, Ches Rievy, to name a few. What is one thing when you play with them, you notice they do that they probably don't get

enough credit for? Like, what's one thing that impresses you being a golf nerd that you are? I mean, probably just the consistency. Like just, I mean, for you two and you, both of you guys, just watching you guys just hit irons i mean you don't miss the middle of the club face rarely i know you do you think you do but for us like being you know amateur golfers um you know we hit them off the toe and they go you know like say you have a your nine iron goes what 135 yards or 140 40 40 40 40 so like when we hit it off the toe it goes 1005 yards

and when you hit it off the toe it goes 129 or 1.30s so like when you hit it off the toe it goes 129 or 130 like you you're you know your misses are just you y'all you know ches and chappie and those guys that you know and it's just so much fun to watch you guys play and just consistently strike it in the middle every single time and you know it's like it would be like you watching us take bp you know i mean i if i hit a ball off the end of the bat during bp like you you it would be something like you you don't ever see a big leger do that it's always on in the barrel on the barrel um Have you had the chance to play with Rom?

I mean, he's at Whiskbarok's Silverlee. No, I see him all the time, though. Never got a chance to play with him, huh? Okay, I was going to ask what you thought of his game. Never mind. I bet he thinks it's pretty good. Yeah. If he has eyeballs, your eyeswork?

It's not bad. I see him hit balls in the range all the time. So you're three now, which is, by the way, very liberal. Criminal. Very liberal interpretation of the handigup. Manipulation of the gin system here. I got to give mold. Or he's got to give me three, and Losh got to give me three.

And I wax those guys. Yeah. You're not a three. Three total or three aside. Three total. So, Mulder's, well, first off, mouder masquerading as zero is pretty criminal. That is criminal.

Yeah. Now, Loche? He's a plus. Loche is that reverse sandbag. He's in Hollywood. He should have played for the Dodgers, yeah. That's awesome. Should we get into the emergency night?

Yeah, let's hit the E-9. You got time for a quick E-9? Absolutely. All right. Might as well while we're here. As you know, we asked us to everyone. Movie made about the life of Cody Ross. Any actor, dead or alive, who's playing you?

Lynn Ardecaprio. All day. Jesus. We got a lot of confident people on this show. No one's ever said like an ugly dude. You know what? I mean, what, you know what? Jonah Hill.

That's the other to be my guy. No one's ever said that. I mean, Daniel Berger on our serious X-M show the other day said, you know, confidence is more important than technique. All of our guys prove this. There's a reason we interview guys have done a lot of good shit in their sport, and it's because they're confident because not one of them's ever. I mean, who I picked is not, I mean, I pick Bruce Willis just because he's got a ball and if he grew a beer.

I think it would work. I mean, that's pretty damn good. Pretty good. It ain't Leo, but. that's what I went with too. I went with Jason Statham. I was like, ball, he's got a nice beard, pretty good looking cat, you know. I didn't have Leo pegged for you, but.

Leo, Leo. Yeah. All right, next one. All right, of all the teams you played for in your career, if there was a bench clearing brawl, what guy do you want by your side the most as a protector? Not that you couldn't hold your own, just in case. He's a scrapper. He's still the toy cannon.

He wasn't the cannon. I would say that's got to be Brian Wilson. Or, yeah, Brian Wilson. I think, it's rarely to be a pitcher. Here's the reason why. I think there was a lot of people that were afraid of him, but he's actually quite soft. So, yeah, I mean, he, he, no, he's not soft. I'm intrigued by that guy.

He's, he's, he's very intriguing. He, I've seen him get into bar fights. So I would, I would want him on my side. He's a big boy, but I feel like he's got that screw loose thing. Maybe like a Jeremy Roanick type deal where it's like, you're not the big, they're bigger guys, but nothing going on up here. This guy would be, this guy would be, this guy would. be like he was a superstar and he was getting into bar.

I got to go to your room. I may have another question about him because I love that guy. All right. Give us a time. All right. Next question. You haven't played since 2015. Let's say right now you had to go out and your life depended on it.

You had to get a hit. You can pick any modern day pitcher to face. Who's it going to be? This is an easy one. I love this. Cole Hamels. Sorry, Cole. Sorry, Cole.

I love Cole. Cole's the best. I killed. him. I killed him. I'm perfect. So you're staying alive. I was staying, yeah. And he's like one of the best He might be a Hall of Famer one day. Like that's how good he is. But I for some reason, I just saw his, I met him when he played in Texas. What a good dude. He's a great guy.

That was a great answer. That was quick. That wasn't even no debate. Cole Ham was there. Probably had a dong. Probably had a dinger real fast. All right. Next question, since we just talked about him, I want to know just, is your former teammate Brian Wilson the coolest dude to ever play baseball? yes I mean so it when it wasn't just that season like everyone thinks oh that was just something that he like created like the beard and the beard came about but he's always been like just super just weird and just different I mean he almost comes off to being a little bit of an asshole to people because the way he is like he just very quiet and he will just stare at you and not even say anything

and it's scared of yeah exactly and but one of the one of the coolest teammates I've ever been around and you know

we're friends with them obviously to this day and just talking with him nowadays he has not changed what's he doing now yeah I was gonna ask you he's flipping houses in L.A

but I'm not talking like you know $500,000 houses houses he's like he'll they'll buy like $15 million houses and scrape him

and put like a $30 million house on it and then sell it for like $100 million. So things are still going on right for Brian Wilson. Yeah, he's never. Let's look into that. Yeah, exactly. I knew it would be doing something cool. I love that guy.

All right. Next question. Athletes in general are very superstitious. I feel like baseball players take it to a whole other level. What was the most ridiculous thing you were superstitious about? Yeah, so I had so many little quirky ones that, um, that people wouldn't even, you know, you don't, you would never see me do. but like, for example, if I, I'd put a piece of gum on my mouth and if I got a base hit,

I would keep it in. And then I would do it until my next hit and I got another hit, I would keep it in. And if I just kept it going and if I didn't get a hit, I would throw it out, put another one in, like little stuff like that. I always. That's like a birdie chew. Exactly. Same type of deal.

Yep. Keep it in. I mean, I was very, I was very strict on what. time I put my uniform on when I was eating. I mean, I had it all down to the minute and it was all because of what I did the day before. And it's like I had to do exactly what I did the day before just because or if I didn't, if I suck the day before, I would change it up by like a few like minutes. Or I would, you know, or I would walk a certain way out to the field or go a different way. Like it was just, it was always a mind game and it was it would drive me.

There's so much. You're a normal bearded at DA. Oh, yeah. D.A. Had to, like, high five the same security guard everywhere. Left sock and right. He doesn't know what day it is, but he knows his left sock got gone on. Yeah, that's crazy.

I mean, and it's funny that you ask that because a lot of people think, like, people, you know, a lot of baseball guys, like wear the same jock strap or do. For the most part, throughout my whole career, I didn't see much of that. I had heard a lot of stories about guys like Wade Boggs. Wade Boggs was like one of the craziest superstitious guys in the world. like the most like the shit that I would say you would hear would be like mind-blowing and um but I didn't really see a whole of it I had a lot of little quirky ones but nothing like crazy the problem is with superstitions as soon as like something goes awry or you're running late

or whatever then your whole brain is messed up gone well now I didn't do all my shit exactly I'm not going to have a good game that's the only problem no that's exactly right all right next question this is I really actually want to know the answer this how in the shit did you become friends with little Wayne wait what You know this? I didn't know this. Cody and Weezy are boys, bud. Can you get him?

And I don't know how. And what's his phone number? I'm sure he's a huge golfer. Oh, yeah. No, he isn't. He, yeah, he doesn't call. This is the odd couple.

I need to know how this developed. So when I was with the Boston Red Sox in 2012, um, we went down to play the Marlins and, uh, for Interleague. And a little Wayne is from, or he lives in Miami. And he's a huge Red Sox fan, like huge Red Sox fan.

And I would, I'll give you one guess so why you would think he's a big Red Sox fan. Anybody? I have a guess. Throw it out. The B on the hat is for Bloods. The blood on the hat. So he's always been.

You need to watch more gang shit. Sorry, guys. The guy with the golf nerd hat on. We were talking about little white and bloods. So huge, huge Red Sox fan his whole life. So he comes to the stadium. He comes down into the end of the clubhouse.

And lo and behold, one of the one of his entourage guys i knew from miami from when i was with the marlins and i'm like oh santi his name is santi i'm like santi what's up man like he's like oh what's up cody like oh how you doing you know blah blah we're talking and he's like yeah i'm with wayne now and blah blah blah and he's like he's like hey won't you come to um his video shoot tonight and i'm like all right i'm in and so like i went to like little wayne's video shoot he was shooting a video down in like downtown miami and he ended up hanging out with him going on his tour bus and then every time he would come into town or I would you know we'd be in the same city I would meet up with him and and uh you know

after his concerts or whatever but anyway like just kind of um yeah became friends with him a little bit i mean i wouldn't say we're like tight but we're you know we're friendly how friendly and how do you save that name in your phone is it under little way is that we's wheeze we's perfect got it god i'd love to be flying the wall for that first conversation with cody and little way hey there mr way Brian Wilson and you together in a room. Oh, that would be incredible. And the machine. Oh, my God.

Yeah. What an odd couple. That's good. I don't know that. Yeah. All right. Well, I thought this next one was my most, the coolest thing about you, but now that is. But growing up, you always wanted to be a rodeo clown, which is fascinating.

I mean, I growing up in like the horse farm business and all that, like I, you know, all the rodeos and everything I know about it, which is awesome. So for those who don't know, rodeo clown, someone got all the pain on, got all kinds of weird shit. and you basically save the bull riders from the bulls when they get bucked off. Correct. Okay? So obviously everybody wants to be a rodeo clown. Yeah. So I'm going to go through three of your best buddies from Major League Baseball. Nick Punto, Kyle Loche, Mark Mulder. They all decide they'd become bull riders.

Shockingly, they all get bucked off. Who would you try the hardest to save? You know, it's a toss-up between Losh and Mulder, and the only reason I would not try to save Punto. You remember guest partner. Because he never He never makes birdies Yeah, that He sucked Whenever we played

The member guests Number two He never returns My text messages Ever Ever, ever He, I mean He'll go weeks

Without returning my messages And then finally I'll just blow him up And be like You better respond to me Right now To be fair They asked them this

And they said Well, they're probably all Gonna be dead Because you had Cancel 20 minutes Before the competition Started Not the most reliable

You might have commitment issues. We had some of them might say. Scheduled the day and I was like, I don't know, dude. He's scheduled it one third. We'll see. Who knows? By the way, you wouldn't have to save Mulder.

Molder would probably look at the bull and the bull and just fall in love and give him a kiss. Probably. He is the most likely guy in the world. Yeah, my next question, my last one, this actually relates to Colt's question. So in hindsight, do you think you would have sustained fewer injuries as a rodeo clown than you did as a baseball player? That's a great question. Oh, that is a excellent question.

I'm worried about you blowing your rotator cuff moving this mic around. That is a. It's an unbelievable question. I would have to go with, I would have sustained less injuries as a rodeo clown because I've had so many injuries as a baseball. And it's like a non, really a non-contact sport. And I've been hurt in the most ridiculous ways. There are running backs that haven't even sniffed your resume of injuries.

It's incredible. I mean, how do you blow your, I mean, how do you dislocate your hip as a baseball player? It's almost impossible to do. And I did it. wrist it back. Rodeo clown. Do they have like stage? Yeah,

I was going to ask that too. Oh, yeah. What would yours be? Yeah, that's a bonus question. I'm guessing the toy can. Toy can't. Toy can't. So one of my all-time favorite rodeo clowns when I was a kid.

There's famous rodeo clowns. One of the big name. Famous, big name. He was a world champion, actually. He was a world champion. I didn't know. You probably didn't know. You could be a world champion.

Yeah. So after, like in the end of, every year you go the NFR I go than FFAR every year back in the 80s they would have a wrangler bullfighting championship and it was always after the after the rodeo and nobody would leave everybody would just stay there and watch the the bull fighters and what they do they'd let the bull out and you would just like do like these little like tricks with the bull like almost like a Mexican style but you're not like spearing the guy or the bull right it's like you're just doing these little moves and anyway Seems smart.

Yeah. He just bulls running at you and you're like dodging it. Not on this competition. With daggers attached to its head. Yeah. So my favorite bullfighter all times named Smurf. He was awesome. Smurf.

Of course Smurf. It makes sense for it. Smurfs. Smurfs. The guy that everybody thinks about. I love that. All right. Last question.

All right. You got it all going on, you know. You got a nice beard, very successful baseball career. Hell of a golfer. You got it all. Except for what's up top. Like myself. So I'm going to ask you, if you had hair,

would it be. fair. It would not be fair, man. You know what? It's so funny because I always dream. Like, do you ever have dreams that you have hair? No. It went away. Mine's gone too, but for some reason, I'll like, I'll like wake up and like, it happens like once every year. I'll have a dream that I have hair and I'm like running my hands through it. It's flowing in the wind. So yeah. Have you ever thought about going the Erlacker round? Yeah, dude, Erlacker did it. So, New Mexico, stand up. See, like, your head's, I mean, you look fine, ball.

You want to show it? Yeah, I'm fine. Erlacher looks fine. Yeah, you've grown into it. It's a clean look. I feel like you look straight. If I saw you with hair like when I saw Brian, I was like, I don't even know who I'm addressing.

Like, I was kind of disappointed when Erlacher did it. Yeah, me too. He looked kind of tough and me nice. He abandoned his tribe. I totally agree. I mean, no, I would never see. He looks crazy. He looks amazing.

Nobody pulled up. He looks totally natural. But no, so my wife likes to tell this story all the time. When I was, I started like losing it when I was like 22, 20, like around there. She says 21, but it was 22 or 22. Anyways. Yeah, she knows. So it was like right when like Bosley was like doing all these like ads everywhere.

And I'm like, you know what? Like I'm going to look into that. So I went and like did like the hair consult like the consult. Consultation. Consultation. Yeah. College. Yeah.

Thanks. I didn't go to college. And did it. And I was like. thinking about pulling the trigger on it and then I'm like, you know what? Forget that. I'm just going to just pick it and

ride with it and just own it. And that's what you got to do. You just got to own it. But how do you, I don't know how Erlacker like, was he just that insecure about it? I think he got paid off. I bet they gave him some,

I bet it didn't cost. Okay. He's on every billboard. If you drive down Chicago, it's like, there's Brian. Oh, there he goes over there. He's every bill. I think financially he came out ahead on that deal.

I get it. Yeah. I get it. I mean, you played baseball. Baseball? You have a hat on all the time? Yeah. I know.

Well, Cody, this has been an absolute pleasure, man. It's been a blast. Thanks for joining us. Thank you, brother. Thanks, Lee. Appreciate it. That was Cody Ross on golf subpart. Sleez, dude, he is a blast.

We've known him for a while. Another guy that plays golf up at Whisper Rock. How about he's got one hole in his career? Number seven at Pebble Beach, not too shabby. Yeah, with video footage of you could pick, like, hey, you can have one whole one in your life and we'll also document it where you want it. I mean, that one would be pretty tough with a beat. How about the fact that growing up you wanted to be a rodeo club?

I mean, that's something we always get shit about. But, like, yeah, like, that's one thing. Kids are like, I want to be an astronaut. I want to be a, you know, space man, whatever. I want to be rodeo. What's the most dangerous job in the world that also pays the least amount of money? That's what I want to do. What kind of salary does a rodeo clown?

Not enough, dude. Not enough to get in the ring with those things. A thousand pound bull or however big they are. But, yeah, awesome, dude. I mean, great story. To win a World Series. I mean, the guy was beloved in San Francisco. I mean, he went on, obviously, a tear, NLCS MVP,

then goes on to win the World Series. Just an awesome dude. One of my favorite guests we've sat down with. Yeah, pretty much every teammate you talk to of his and every organization you go to, he's like a fan favorite. Everybody says good things about him. Once you get to know him, like it's pretty easy to see why. It's just a high-energy guy.

And starting off his career, the way he did with all the injuries and, like, you know, getting his first shot and then having to come back down and then getting hurt, getting back up there and hitting a dinger and then blowing his ACL. Like, he had some struggles for a while. And then he had caught that huge hot streak with San Francisco and goes down in history with that band of misfits they had up there in San Fran. Yeah, awesome stuff. Thanks to Cody for joining us.

But Sleys, time to get to our picks for the week. Not our best at the Genesis invitation. I snuck in there with the top 15 from Patrick Cantley, but a very disappointing Sunday from him. Your guy Adam Scott actually had a big Sunday. Yeah, dude. Well, he had a big Sunday, but I was sitting there on Friday like, really? Miss cut or he might have a miscutt?

He had to make a late birdie just to play the weekend. And I was like, here we go, guys with an unbelievable track record, and then throw the curse on him. Nothing like having three missed cuts to start out three years. This is a problem, but at least he greased it out and had a good Sunday. They made a little bit of a move, but he was just too far back. All right, producer Mark, can we have some updated standings? Yeah, so Adam Scott finished T-38, good for $40,555.

Well, Patrick Cantlay, as you said, call it the T-151-151-125,000 to give you a lead of 190-289. All right, all right. She's tight. Can I say this? I honestly feel like Cantlay with the 14th, still a good week. He was the guy I was going to pick hands down if I had the honor. of last week. I feel like that's almost a win for me being that he wasn't a top three guy.

I thought for sure he was going to be there like last nine on Sunday. Struggles on Sunday. Very expensive three putt for par on 17 coming in. Those ones stack up when you get up there towards the top at the end. And this week, another huge event sleighs. The WGC workday.

Whatever the hell it's called. Not Mexico City. The WGC, not Mexico City this week. But another loaded field. It's going to be awesome to watch. I think this is a week. we're going to might have to use some big dogs because, I mean, there's no scrubs in this field. Nobody, no scrubs. There's only 72 guys in the field, something like that.

You can't pick a bad one here. So, yeah, we'll be interested to see. It's your honor. You're coming off the 14th. So you lead it off and then I'll follow suit. All right. Well, I'm using a big one, Slice. You know, the concession golf club, not many people know about it.

Not much history around there. Yeah. Except for one man that I know of. And that's Bryson DeShambo. He won the NCAAs there while at SMU. Go Mustangs. and I'm going to go with him this week. I think knowing the play, just a little bit, having some success there will help.

I heard it's not too difficult off the T, which should set up pretty well for him. It's big around the greens is where it gets tough. Our guy Ben Herman said he thinks single digits will win this week, which would be really cool to watch. So I'm going with Bryson DeShambo, who's around 20 to 1. Yeah, 2015, NCAA champ there. Probably the only guy in the field with a win at concession. So that's not nothing. I'm going to go here.

I'm going with my first European flair on Team Slees this week. I'm going with a guy that's been playing well of late. One over in Abu Dhabi earlier, like about a month ago and then had another sixth in Dubai. Tirol Hatton, a guy that I think is maybe one of the best iron players in the world. And I was just reading up a little bit on this golf course that, you know, like you said, wide off the fairway, second shot golf course. I'm going to take guy in some good form and one of the better iron players in the world. So Tyrol Hatton, here we go, son.

Give me some of those antics and give me some tweets. There it is. All right. Well, that's going to do it for us. We'll talk to you on next week's golf subpar. Thank you.