Subpar - Dan Orlovsky talks going head to head with Stephen A. Smith on First Take, NFL QB’s being Hollywood handicappers

Episode Date: March 28, 2023

On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar, ESPN analyst Dan Orlovsky joins former PGA Tour pro Colt Knost and jicky jack legend Drew Stoltz for an exclusive interview. The former NFL quarterback talks going head to head with Stephen A. Smith on First Take, his recent golf trip to Streamsong and why most NFL QB's can be considered Hollywood handicappers. -- Thanks to our sponsor Rhoback. Use the code “SUB” on Rhoback.com for a generous 20% off your first order. That’s 20% off all polos, hoodies, and Q-Zips with code “SUB”. Make sure to check out their print polos -- Step up to the tee and take a swing at betting the PGA TOUR with the Official Sportsbook of Subpar, FanDuel. Go FanDuel.com/SUBPAR to get a NO SWEAT FIRST BET up to ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS in BONUS BETS! FanDuel, ​​Official Betting Operator of the PGA TOUR. Disclaimer: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. $10 Deposit req. Refund issued as non-withdrawable bonus bets that expire in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See full terms at fanduel.com/sportsbook. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MI, NJ, OH, PA, IL, TN, VA), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), visit www.mdgamblinghelp.org (MD), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), 1-800-522-4700 (WY), or visit www.1800gambler.net (WV).

All right. Hello world. Welcome back to golf subpar with Colt Nost and Drew Stoltz. We'll get to the PJ tour in a second, but first, please, another member guest in the books. Your team played much better than mine. Congratulations on winning your flight with your brother, Jeff. But, man, a time was had. A time was had. I love member guests. There's the best form of golf. You go out there, you get to compete a little bit. Try to play good golf. Not the end of the world if you don't. but it's music all day, drinking, good food typically, hang afterwards, some cards. It's a beautiful, beautiful weekend. And my boy, Jeff, shout out to my brother Jeff for showing up.

Came in with like a 12-ish type handicap or something around there. You get like 80% of it, I think, in the flight. My man put together a little 40-41 in the morning matches, the first 18 with two Xs, two dubs, basically. So a lot of pars and a lot of pars. Get them, Jeff. For birds out there. Shout out, Jeff.

Way to show up. Do you want me to take you through my adventure? I heard Lammy didn't quite have it. He's not a desert guy, by the way. Future guests of golf subpar, poker player Ben Lamb came down and joined me. He's kind enough to always bring me to his up at Southern Highlands in Las Vegas. We have a great time. We've almost won it a couple times.

This week, much different story. We were the last team in the first flight. We were the underdogs. No doubt about it. But you got to take advantage of your strokes, right? Well, my man showed up very prepared. Coming out of Cabo where he was down there playing some golf, text me, He goes, never hit it better in my life.

I'm striping it right now. Ready to get going. Well, boy, did that backfire. He showed up to Wish Baroque with no golf balls. Had to go charge some to the account on the inside. That can happen. The next day, he quickly proceeded to lose those in a day, so we had to go reload. The next day, in our first nine-hole match, he hit seven provisionals.

Pretty good. Not on the part-rees, though? Get it dead straight on the par-threes. I guess he was really worried about me making double with pitching wedge in my hand. Legitimate concern. Whatever. Also, before the second day, we had a long 27 holes on Friday, got amongst it that night. Next day, I see him come out of the pro shop, brand new pair of shoes.

I'm like, what are you doing? He's like, I didn't want to walk up the stairs to your locker. Also understandable. There's got to be 12, 14 steps to get all the way up there. I think you actually have to walk further to take a leak than you do if you just go straight upstairs. So, but unbelievable. Rather, right. Left it on the field.

Have a lot of fun, a lot of time, a lot of shit. shit was talked. And then to cap it all off, just to end the member guest, once again, rather good time on Saturday. Sunday, wake up, Sunday's day of rest. It's the Sabbath. We had two golf tournaments on. We had NCAA March Madness.

There was no reason to leave the house. Well, my car was at Isabella's, our local spot because you don't drink and drive. That's a rule. Responsibly. We do everything responsible. Gamble responsibly. We drink responsibly. So my wonderful wife, Natalie, drove Ben to get my car.

because his travel bag and some other stuff was in there. Ben drives the car home. Very nice. When I'm sitting there. Hug you, love you. See you later. Sends you back to Vegas.

Hey, bud. Got a problem. I'm like, what he goes? Just brought your keys to Las Vegas with me. You don't need that whip, do you? You're not a big driver. I was like,

he's like, you got a spare set. I could not begin to tell you. I have moved since I got a new car. There's no telling where my spare keys are. You're like, I'll overnight them to you. But everything's closed Sunday, so they'll get there Tuesday.

In the meantime, do not a hot wire a vehicle? by chance, go back to your old car theft days. That basically sums up our member guest. Yeah, we didn't finish last. Second to last. Off the bottom. Our wonderful president.

No one remembers second to last. Our wonderful president here at 8 a.m. Hoyt McGarrity took home that title. Okay. Shout out Hoyt. Somebody's got to have it. It's like shooting 79 versus 80. Everyone will remember in 80 for forever.

79 just wiped that off. It doesn't even matter. We had hell of a time. Do you have the stats on the booze consumption? We went over it today on the radio. We're doing a new fun thing at Whistbrook where they keep track of everything that's consumed food, you know, whether it's bacon, sausage.

I think we had pork tenderloin. And then they also get into the booze. How many bottles of certain booze were consumed? And it was, it was record setting. I remember the numbers from what you said. I remember for breakfast, there was 130 pounds of bacon consumed. It's a good amount. 200 pounds of beef in the afternoon.

Solid. By the way, I didn't have any of that. Shout out to me. I contributed zero to the beef. Yeah. Bacon I hit a more impressive thing. Two days, 94 bottles of vodka. Correct.

64 bottles, 68 bottles of tequila. Yeah, I did contribute to that. The vodka, we may have had something to do with that. Right? That's why it's so good. It's what you do. What else are you going to do? Not leave it on the field.

Hey, they make you pay for that member guest. You got to get it back somehow. I'm coming out on top of this thing. I can guarantee your ass. You lose money. When the Stoltz is enter the field, you're losing money on the entry fee. Next year, Tres is going to be charging us for booze in the member guests. You actually kept track of everyone.

Your entry fee's a little different than these guys over here. You eat too much bacon and too much booze. All right. Well, on to the other golf. They played a tournament. week down at Austin country club Dell match play the last one as of right now but Sam Burns

is your winner obviously found something at Valles Bar the week before carried it over to the match play I mean what a week it was big names advancing our final four guys Sam Burns Cam Young Roy McElroy and Scottie Sheffler yeah and it looked

like both guys were two up at one point in the semifinals it looked like we were about to have a Roy McElroy Scottie Sheffler showdown I was going to be in a real dilemma it was a dilemma anyways on what watch if you don't have multiple televisions but i was like we get scotty and rory in this final like that's the showdown fans have been waiting for i thought you know there's no more match play as of now for next year on the pGA tour i was like dude if rory and scottie make this finals and they have a match that goes 18 holes and then you come out and say no more of this where i was like dude

they got they hit a home they got so lucky and the fact that that match didn't shake out that ended up being the consolation match i put no stock in that i don't think they would have chopped the pot before they teed off and said cool see you next to you next time. But I mean, Sam Burns deserves that he went out there and played incredible. That's the risk you run with a match. Seven and no. I mean, dude, he just bl-and-that's last Matt Woody Birdie is six of his final eight, like to close the thing out. I mean, he was just making everything, hitting it perfect. You run that risk of that championship match not being great, but you were also this close to getting arguably, I would say the best final you've ever had in the history of this

thing. And then you say, oh, we're not having it anymore. Could have been problems. But I still thought it was awesome dude five of six five of the top six seeds advanced to out of the pool play rom being the only one that didn't he was the only thing missing in that deal but i like the match play i hope they find a way it's just a nice change up from the everyday stroke play competition i think the players like it it's way more personal in match play than stroke play i hope they find a way going forward whether it's tour championship or something to have it's got to be the best guys it can't be you know a non-designated type field to to attract interest but i hope they find a way to get it on the schedule i like it

I like Austin Country Club. I think the holes around Lake Austin are beautiful. A lot of excitement with the drive will holes, the par fives. A lot of stuff can happen. But at the end of the day, Sam Burns put on a clinic, beating Cam Young six and five. By the way, nice first week for Paul Tesori with Cam Young. Yeah, pretty easy, isn't it?

Hit it at the, see that little thing with the flag on it? Hit it right at that. He's good at golf. When he gets going, like he was going in his last two matches, let's call it, damn, he's tough. I mean, we might not see it as consistently as some of the other guys, but his good is really damn good. Up to 10th in the world.

And I feel like he goes under the radar way more than a lot of guys who have fewer than five wins on tour. And also shout out to my man, my trusty spotter, Parker, who's out there. He's in the ER. He also works for NBC when CBS doesn't have it. Got some nice TV time. Took one in the shoulder from Sam Burns yesterday on the par 5, 12th,

and then got some great TV time with the Get Amongst advisor on. That's my guy. God bless you, Pete. Started to get a lot of message. is all of a sudden like, who is this guy? Who do you know this guy? Check this dude out. I was like, that's the guy.

It got lucky to. He clipped him in the shoulder. That hits the face. That's a huge problem. And it ended up bouncing weird and then hitting a pole and like coming back. I was like, if you knock 30 yards off his drive and he has to take relief, you're going to get some unwanted attention.

But it turned out perfect. He was amongst it. It's what he does. By the way, 22 years of doing the job, first time he's ever gotten hit. Pretty damn good. And you can't see shit on that hole. Made a nice run. It's like 40 yards below the T-box.

And they're hitting it, by the way. three whatever on the fly they were hitting bomb sam burns got it up to 187 cam young 192 ball speed cam young hits rockets god damn rockets he is this close to starting to win a bunch of stuff 10 top threes now got a dub coming six runner up something like that you've been there feels all the time and the harder the golf course feel like the better for him his stuff is nice all right well our guest this week speaking of nice I love this man I'm a huge fan I think he's one of the best analyst in the business. He does incredible work for ESPN. And he's a huge golfer. Just went on an epic trip down to Stream Song, sent some videos of this putting contest they had in the lobby of the

hotel that got incredibly weird. They fire. It was great. But Dan Orlovsky. He's awesome. Former NFL quarterback, man. I love him. He is, he does such, like I said, I consider Charles Barkley the greatest sports broadcaster we have. I love his style, his humor. He speaks to everyone. Dan Orlovsky is unbelievable breaking down. Things that I don't think the average person, average football fan would see. And he makes it where you can understand everything he says. Yeah, and he's very easy guy to like because he's very self-deprecating. He has no problem taking shots at himself, which I think is somewhat rare in the media world.

A lot of people pretty proud, you know, want to protect themselves. He's got no issue. He just came out as to say he uses the same towel in his shower 30 straight days before it changed. A little suspect. That's like college dorm shit when you're doing your laundry for the first time. Like, oh, it's crusty. That'll be fine. also calls his wife a maniac on this show and talks about her poop schedule on Pat McAfee.

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They will have you feeling good all year round. All right, here's Dan Orlovsky on Golf Subpar. Okay, folks, big time guest on the program here today. Former NFL quarterback turned ESPN analyst, broadcaster. You see him on NFL live. First take. He's everywhere dropping the hottest takes in the biz. Dan Orlovsky, good to have you, bud.

I'm fired up to be with you guys. I'm actually texting you. videos from the putts that we experienced the other night in stream song. So I forgot to send him to you. So I'm doing so now. But great to be with you guys. I'm fired up. Man, this is awesome. You know, I'm a huge fan. I reached out to you on Twitter and was like, I love watching your stuff. You're all over. I mean, you might work more than I do, which is, which is crazy to say. I think you work about 18 hours a day, it seems like, are you ever not talking about football? No, dude. You know, like two things. So first of all, thank you. I appreciate that. I texted you back

like massive fan as well. One, you won me fantasy one year, probably three years ago, four years ago, something like that. And I think you do a great job on TV. So, but, um, one, like I live in Connecticut. I'm from Connecticut. I always tell people like, the great thing about ESPN is it's 24-7. The bad thing about ESPN is 24-7. So if you live close, they'll find, they'll find moments for you to work. And then like the, um, the more, the most like thing, one of the things that has stood out the most getting into TV. I never knew it as a player, I paid attention to it. It was like how much of the calendar the NFL owns, you know, like they've done a business

model-wise day. Season gets done middle of February. Then there's like a week of quiet or like somewhat quiet. And then it's, well, we got to get ready for the NFL combine, first week of March. And then there's like a couple days of not a ton going on. And then it's what we're in this week, the NFL for agency. And then that carries for like two weeks. And then, you know, there's a couple days of quiet early April.

And then it's the NFL draft for the whole month of April. And then there's OTAs and mini camps. So it's football nonstop in this country, man. But you're one of those guys. I mean, you genuinely love it. Like, some people consider it work. Like, even for me for golf, I know Sleese is probably the same way. Like with golf, it's not work.

Like, it's what I love to do. I love to watch it. I consume it at all hours of the day. So it's really not work. You really do enjoy it. And I think it comes across on the TV. No, I appreciate it. I do.

I love it. I love one, like my nature, my personality has always been argumentative and a little bit of probably too much like a know-it-all. So like some of the shows that I get to be on, that's a perfect fit. I've always been a nerd, you know, with football. Like I've always been kind of like an intellectual person. I was never physically that talented. So like finding stuff or whatnot and tape is something that I love to do.

So I love it. I'm super passionate about it. I have a great time doing it. So it's way better than it's all I know, too. I've never not done football. So to get paid for it is ridiculous to me. What do you like doing the best? Like your NFL live, it's kind of like X's and O's, breaking down players, things like that.

You got first take where you get up there and just hot take, debate, that type of stuff, or broadcasting, calling the games. Do you have one that you look forward to more than the others? It depends. So, like, I love them all, to be honest with you. Because we could ask that question all the time about, like, executives. What's your end goal? Or what do you want to do more of when you do you want to do less of?

And I always say, like, I love it all. If you get a good live game, it's nails. Like there's nothing that beats a good live game. And really like in college football, if you get the right scene, right setting and get a great game, it's tough to beat. Now, that doesn't happen a ton in college football though. There's like the college football parody is just so big. I often get like 40 to six games. So those aren't a blast.

But, you know, I called like the Fiesta Bowl two years ago, Notre Dame Oklahoma State. It was awesome. So if you get a good college football game or good NFL game, You know, this past year we had the Chiefs Week 18 trying to secure the number one seed. They go on to win the Super Bowl. So, like, those are great. First take is a blast because, you know, Stephen A called me two years ago. I was like, I want to give you Thursdays.

You know, like Thursdays is going to be your day. And I think the thing that, like, gave me so much joy in doing Thursdays with Stephen A is he's so go be yourself. You know, he's not focused on like having this intense, I've got to be right moment. he just wants to have fun talking football and arguing about sports in general. So I love doing first take. I love doing get up because it kind of like was where I got started. And they've given me a lot of creative freedom. NFL Live is my favorite when it comes to the consistent.

Like I'm with people who I love. Those people are like family to me. And that's where I'm like my most nerd is NFL live. So I love doing it all. I mean, you got to, you work with some incredible personalities. Obviously, Stephen A. Smith, you know, I wake up every morning. I have my coffee out here on the West Coast. That's what I, that's what I wake up to is Stephen A. yelling, which is really enjoyable and gets me going for my day. But I want to know about

Ryan Clark because y'all's relationship seems unbelievable. When y'all break down the film, I love that. So R.C. is my guy. So I played against R.C. like a little bit in the NFL, but I didn't know about it or didn't know him personally, right? Great story is, I think three or four years ago. It was the Super Bowl, I believe in Tampa. It was, the Tampa versus Kansas City Super Bowl, right? So that was like our first year working together, Ryan and I. And we were doing a segment or something. And in this segment, I kind of like, he said something to me.

And I kind of pretended to like step to him, so to speak. And like, like, not throw hands, but like throw hands. You know what I'm saying? Like I stepped to him like confrontational. And on television, he handled it fine. And I walk off this set to go to another set. And he came up to me. face to face this was like again i don't know he i don't know him that well in this moment he's like

hey bro don't you ever eff and do that to me on television again i'll knock you the f out i'm not that dude and in that moment i was like got it got it got it got it and that was like a moment where it like sent our friendship to a different level because um you know like the way he he just straight up like confronted me about it i was like this dude don't mess around so and the the breaking down stuff on TV was actually his idea one time. He was like, it would be so cool if we did it live together. And we did like your perspective, my perspective. We did it once.

And it went from there. And you should see us in commercial break. Like we're getting, we're jumping up and down. We're getting like hyped up for it. We're walking around because it's so much energy for that. We love it. That's perfect. Because I want to go to another show.

We go to first take for a minute, right? Because that's kind of the soul of that show is like debate. Like healthy debate. You have one side. You have one side. are there and they get tense like there's a lot of tense moments on that sometimes i'm watching like i think they're genuinely pissed at each other what are like the commercial breaks like are there ever some awkward moments after one of those ends and you're both kind of sitting there like oh my god like

that got weird yeah i mean awkward is it's it's probably like on the surface level can be viewed as awkward but like those are like the the show can carry over into a commercial break and into argument so often that it never like the moment never becomes overwhelmingly awkward i'll never forget like one of the first times I did first take, we were in commercial break. And I was sitting there talking to Stephen A about whatever. Like you guys, we were talking right now about, I forget what the topic was. And all of a sudden, like when you're on set, someone yells, you guys know this live TV. It's like 15, like 15 seconds till we're live.

And Stephen A is like, what's the topic? And someone said it, I don't know what the topic was, Cowboys quarterback or something. And all of a sudden, five, four, three, two, one live television comes on. And he goes from like this casual conversation to, he went into pretextual, he went into performance. Like it was live TV. Here I go. I'm Stephen A. This is first take. And I think that's like empowering when you see him do that because you understand like that's part of that show. It is. It's just and he takes a ton of pride in it. But it's not fake. It's just who he is in that moment. But like he's not overly sensitive. He's he's never going to get defensive about stuff. He just

literally wants to chop it up and argue and disagree and have entertaining sports conversations. So I I think like overall it could be viewed as awkward, but it's never personal. I love that. Can I just one follow up on that real quick? So clear the air for everyone out there because there's a lot of people that think this. Is it ever a case before the show where you guys go on and you're talking, let's say it's Cowboys quarterback and you're like, okay, you take this side and I'll take this side. Even if you don't believe what you're saying, do you ever have to like just argue one side?

So there is a debate because it's better than if you both agree? No. So I'll kind of fill you guys in a little bit of like feel back the curtain on that. what happens is usually 99 out of 100 times you'll get an email the night before with like 50 questions on it you know that can be questions that depending on all the answer can spur debates and you throw out your your answers they don't give you the other person's answer they got when I get the email I don't have stephen a's answer on it so I'm um more inclined to disagree with him and then the next morning at like seven or eight in the morning we'll get an email or maybe we're in the

meeting ourselves of like what the topic's going to be. But we're never forced to say, hey, Stephen A took this side. So you have to take that side. The producers do a really good job of like, but we're also smart. We also know that there are some conversations that are going to be more entertaining than others. But I don't, I've never gone on there and said something. I don't believe. I've said crazy stuff. But it's not because I don't believe it. All right. Well, that's good. Let's just get to it. We're going to get to some golf. But we got you're the best in the business. with NFL. We got to talk about it. And it's already been said twice. Cowboys quarterback.

I'm a diehard cowboy fan, Dan. Just let me have it, man. Like, what do we got to do? I mean, I'm just, it kills me every single year. Max Duggan. I didn't stop it. Stop it. Yeah, Max, stop it. Max will turn that ship around, dude. I might use that on NFL live today. Please do. I think like, I think Dax's a good player. I said this after the San Francisco lost this year. I just, we live in a reality. where everybody wants the player to be the person. You know, Dak Prescott is a A plus 10 out of 10 person. He's a tremendous human.

I don't know him, but everyone who talks about him says that. But he's not a 10 out of 10 player. He's a good player. And everybody wants him to be that incredible top five quarterback type of player. He's just not that guy. So, like, the only way to win in the NFL with that guy is to make sure. that your roster is so good around him that he gets propped up

rather than him propping other guys up. There's only a handful of guys in the world that do that. So like, I think they're good. I think he's good. I just don't think he's going to consistently be great. So we're going to continue to be disappointed year after year is what you're saying. Yeah. I mean, what's the expectation level, right?

God. Yeah. Unless it kills me. Well, unless you got a man on the road in Fort Worth. The other problem is, I am a huge Sean Payton fan and Sleez is a Bronco fan and they stole him. I was kind of sneaky open. We would suck this last year. So we'd get Sean Payton and that totally backfired. And watch what he does with Russell this year. They even signed two of

linens and Lyman already in for agency. So like Russell play so much better with Sean. And I think the world of Sean Payton. So yeah, it's so funny because like we talk about the cowboys all the time and everyone's like, my wife's from Phyllis. So my wife hates it. She's like, oh, you guys don't talk about the Cowboys. And I'm like, listen, they're, they, if you came to my Twitter page and saw my. mentions, it's all Cowboys fans telling me how much they hate me. So, like, that's, that's why, because their fan base is the absolute biggest in the NFL. You know, this, this is all starting to make sense because I pissed off all of Philadelphia during the Phoenix Open this year when I said,

you know, I was glad it was a green out on Saturday. And I said, I'm glad it's the WM green and not that disgusting Philadelphia Eagle Green. And there's been this lady sending me hate tweets. Is this, I think your wife has been hate tweeting for the last six, the last few months. Exactly. She got a lot of burners. Those, those Eagle, fans are sensitive, man. I made a little football joke on a golf telecast. Dude, I'll never. So first my, again, my wife's a maniac. Like I, we moved, we lived in Philly for like 2016, 17. We had to move to Connecticut because it'll work all that stuff. And one of the, two of the things that she said when we moved here, we were like, one, we had to get direct TV so she

could get the Eagles games on Sundays. And then two, my kids were not allowed to grow up New York sports fans. So I'm, I've got no issue with that, babe. Like, I don't have an allegiance or whatnot. We live close to City Field with where the Mets play. I've got a son-of-place baseball. He loves Pete Alonso. She gets legitimately pissed at me when I take him to Mets games because she's like, you're trying to make him a Mets fan. I'm like, no, I'm not. He's 11. I'm trying to just take him to baseball, getting you maniac. That's so great. Passionate wife. That's good. Stay on that for me because we're talking about crazy fans. Part of the deal on first take, And just all sports shows, really.

It's like, make a list. Top five this, top five that, quarterback, whatever it is. You know a bunch of these dudes, almost all of them, from playing in the league with them. Have you ever made a list and somebody saw it and got pissed at you who's like a player? Be like, really, dude, fifth? All the time. All the time.

All the time. I think I learned early on in this business. Lists are supposed to be disagreed upon. Like if you make a list and everyone's like, oh, yeah, I kind of agree with it. It's boring. right so like i go i am aware when i make lists of trying to make something that like is going to generate conversation is going to generate disagreement like that's part of that thing is is

making a list now i'm not going to make a list that i don't think is accurate or i don't think that is is um is something i stand by but yeah i've had guys reach out to me uh and be like what the heck is this all about or i've had agents text me agents you're a big part of that too like agents text me all the time being like what do you do you do? doing you're driving value and I'm like you guys are way too emotionally attached to this so there is a part of it though like I was reading something the other day with Kenny Smith and shack when they called for a coach to get fired and they said they would never do it again because they didn't understand their influence like I'm aware I'm on ESPN a ton so like I try to be very conscious of that as well

but I have I've had guys reach out agents reach out a bunch but I'm I have to do my job the best I can so do like Barkley always brings this up do they text you though when you praise them and tell them how great they are. I know. That's what I text back with. You know, oh, you didn't. It's funny. You're texting me now,

but what about the last six months when I've said all great things, as you've earned it, but I've said all great things. You were quiet then. So now one time I say something that's not glowing, you want to come and jump down my throat about it.

So, but that's how I fire back, for sure. Which position is the most sensitive? Like, if you do a wide receiver ranking, quarterback, ranking, running back, ranking, quarterback, for sure. Right. Overback by far.

because we do live in this world. And part of the reason why I got into this business was I was trying to get people understand like there's other great quarterbacks in the league than Tom Brady, other great coaches in the league than Bill Belichick. But we live in this world and I call it. But I blame Patrick Holmes all the time. I talk to Patrick a bunch mainly about golf, to be honest with you. But it's his fault because like if you are not Patrick or don't have a Patrick,

you stink. You know, and there's a lot of really good guys player-wise in the NFL at quarterback that they get measured against Patrick and they'll never measure up. And so they or their fan bases, they always feel second fiddle because he's such an incredible player. I mean, in our world, golf, I mean, everything, when a kid comes out and wins two major championships early on, it's like, oh, here's the next Tiger Woods.

I'm like, calm down. No, it's not. He's a really great player, but there's only one of those. Yeah. And you're not going to get there. But you're always going to be compared to it. And it's, you'll never catch it. Like, you'll never.

And I would imagine it messes with those guys as much as it does quarterbacks. For sure. Yeah, it needs like two separate categories. Like Tiger stats, everyone. Oh, he's made 30 cuts in a row. Cool. 100 plus more and he could tie Tigers crew, you know, consecutive record. Like, you're not even in the same stratosphere.

You mentioned it before we get to some golf. I want to ask because you mentioned like your end goal. Like, what is it for you? Do you want to be a GM one day? Do you want to be a head coach? Or do you love what you're doing right now? Love what I'm doing. doing right now, that question that gets asked a lot and always say, like, it's kind of a moving target,

you know, because I think the way we consume sports, mainly football is, is ever changing. The way we talk about it is ever changing. There's so much access and information out there. So I always say it's a moving target. I've got four kids, three of my, I have a trip at 11-year-old boys and a seven-year-old daughter. And like, I really want to be a part of their life and be around a ton and watch them kind of grow and become the people that they are. And I know that there are, and I know that there are some roles that challenge that coaching is one of them um you know front office stuff is one of them tv has it has it has it's you know kind of disadvantages what that is too so is that as well so i think like my ultimate goal is to be widely respected and what i do um and be valued and

where that kind of takes me right now i'm kind of open to just following kind of how it goes on a day-to-day basis i got a question for you because colt and i we're friends with some of your right guys that have been career mostly backup quarterbacks and we always joke with them like that's the best gig on the planet the fans love you they always want the backup right you don't really take that many hits you get paid a ton of money like that's the best gig in the world but be honest are you are you having more fun now in your post playing career than you did while you were playing oh yeah because I'm better at this though you know I'm better than than I was a player um you know like once you settle into that role it's really cool you know as as a backup I always say

said, like, you don't have any competitive release, though. You know, you do all the work as everybody else, but you don't get to go out on Sundays and, like, kind of prove that that work was worth it or whatnot. But I love doing this now just because, you know, I think there's a, there's an aspect of taking immense pride and trying to find something that you could be really good at after you were really good at something, you know, like I tell my boys all the time, there's eight billion people on planet Earth and I was one of 1500, somehow, some way, very, very good at something. You know, like, I tell my boys, very blessed to do that and you know again now it's another opportunity to find a way to be really good at something and and have that as a daily like challenge so to speak so but yeah i i i love

i like this more just because i'm better at it yeah and you're doing a hell of a job yeah you're doing awesome personality you can't teach that a lot of guys that know football there's not a ton of same with golf a lot of guys know golf there's not a lot of personalities you're doing a good job bringing that thanks man thanks i think the lot of up with that a little bit so let's talk a little golf because you just got back from an awesome trip down to stream song. Yeah, dude, I love it. How's the game? And I see you tweeting all the time about golf.

I know you're dialed in. You're watching it on TV. Yeah. What is it about golf? So golf's my favorite sport to watch on TV, honestly. Like, because I watch so much football and I've lived football. What is it about golf? So, um, I think what, for me, like, what golf, like, what is it about golf is, again,

I was somehow, like, fart is, part of this very small group on planet earth that did something at the highest level. So I think, or I'm wired to think like everything should be that easy. And golf just isn't. Like it just isn't. And I get so, like so many people get frustrated when I stand over 140 yards shot with a nine iron. And there's the green is the size of Rhode Island and I push it 20 yards right. And I just like, how, how can I do that?

Or like when you watch it on TV. and I watch these dudes pull off these shots. I marvel at it. And I think the same way that people marvel at something that Patrick Mahomes does because they can't comprehend it. Like, I've hit a gazillion golf balls in my life. I can't comprehend Homa hitting the flagstick yesterday in the air on that far. My brain can't wrap my, you know, I can't wrap around that thought. So I love golf.

I think it's my favorite time to hang, you know, like if I'm not not working and spending time with my family, I want to be hanging with. the boys and playing golf. I love gambling on the golf course. That's the only place I gamble. So I think that like sunsets and golfing are probably my second favorite thing in the world outside of sunsets at the beach with my family. So I love it. I love golf trips. Golf trips are my favorite thing to do outside of hanging out with my family by far. So I don't know. I don't know what it is. It just, it's a it's a very peaceful feeling. Let's stay on golf trips because you just got back from Stream Song. I know you got on a lot of you on a lot of them. Where are someone?

of your favorite spots like all right fellas trip golfing here's where we should go give me the top couple make a list make it controversial okay so yeah say somewhere stupid favorite golf trip ever was northern wisconsin we did whistling in aaron hills i liked see this is what happens when you tell the truth use i liked erin hills um that's my favorite walk ever was we did we popped off aaron hills we did 36 there we we pegged in at like 3 30 in the afternoon and so this was in june So we were getting done right around like 745, 8 o'clock, summer sun, golden hour, played really good. Walked 18, saw the plaque from Justin Thomas. And I just remember turning back around from the plaque and looking at the sun and being like,

there's literally nothing better than this. So Aaron is up there, northern Wisconsin is up there for sure. This stream song trip I just went on was tremendous. Great group of guys. We had two foursums. The weather was awesome. We had so much fun. It's the best I've ever played.

Usually I played February and March golf. I suck because I'm coming off of seven months and not picking up a golf club. But it was the best I played. And we didn't have like down at streams on. I can get hot real fast. We didn't have a day that was like break your back heat. It was a nice breeze. I think that golf, the three golf courses are awesome.

I don't love desert golf. We've done Scottsdale. I don't like being three yards off the fairway and trying to deal with rock or a or a rattlesnake. Oh, Pinehurst. We did Pinehurst last summer. And I'm rambling, but I'll give you a quick little story. Have you guys been to Pinehurst? My assumption would be yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So we played number two that day, played pretty good. We get done at like one or two o'clock in the afternoon. We go grab a bite to eat and then we were going to do the cradle, the par three. And we teed off on the cradle. I want to say like five or six o'clock, playing barefoot, shirts untucked,

music going, having a drink, just a great time, group of like 10 of us. And we get done. And we're like, we got plenty of sunlight. Let's run it back. So we get to the first tea box and there's like this group of like 12 year olds, 13 year olds, 14 year olds, something like that. And they're like, hey, we just got done playing two. We're tied. Can we play one hole and we'll get done? We were like, for sure, for sure. And we like, hang on. What did you guys shoot? And one kid like, disappointingly goes 76. And I'm like, what? And then another kid, 73 and we're like who's the best player in the all point to one kid and we're like what did you shoot he's like 70 and we're like what tees did you guys play from and they're like the whites

those were the teas that we played from so i'm like what the heck so we watch these kids hit their first shots and we're like no you don't look like us so all these kids throw balls to like five or six feet buddy five or six feet long story short we end up playing with them we're like we got to go play with you guys we play all nine holes to the dark with them they're the number for one, three, seven, and ten ranked players in the world for, like, their age group, which I think is 13 or 14 years old. They live at Pinehurst. They were unbelievable.

And so, like, that was a super, super fun golf trip. It makes you feel good about yourself. That sounds better than the cab ride you took from Bandon. Oh, you know. Oh, you don't. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Three hour cab ride. Is that all? Five hour cab ride to.

Five hour. Dude, it was, um, what's the time? in Medford, Oregon. You guys know Swanian, DA. So good buddies of mine live out there. Again, you got to come to Bandin in February. Weather will be fine. I'm an East Coast kid.

February is like the worst. So it'll be fine. It'll be fine. I live in Tampa at this time. I fly to Houston, Texas to connect with my buddy who's going to go with us as well. We get to Portland. My clubs don't make it. It's snowing.

It takes like five hours to get back from the airport. like 15 miles away. Clubs still don't make it. We finally get the band and clubs still aren't there. Wake up the next morning and we play, I think, like, pines or something. I borrow clubs from my buddy, Derek Anderson, who's a way better golfer than me. We play in like 40 mile an hour rain,

you know, 40 degrees in like crazy rain that morning, get done in the afternoon. Weather flips. It's like 60 mile an hour wins. Get done playing. Walking off the green. It's my wife. I'm in the hospital.

My appendix ruptured. I came from Tampa, Florida. So I'm like, get out of here. Work throughout the night of like, how do I get home? I've got to get home. Take like a two o'clock in the morning cab from abandoned to Medford, Oregon. Takes like five hours. Hop on a flight from Medford to San Francisco,

San Francisco nonstop. So I got the abandoned for like 28 hours. Wow. You'd have been better off being in London. You could have got home way quicker from London. That place is so far. far off the grid. Let's stay on the quarterbacks. We play a ton of golf with DA is one of our closest friends, but there's some other guys too. And you were just talking about how it drives you

crazy. Like, I got to the elite elite in football. I feel like I should be able to do the same in golf. Quarterbackers, typically sandbaggers or Hollywood handicappers? Hollywood handicappers. Too much money, too little muscle. You know, like they don't have most quarterbacks don't much muscle so they can actually like rotate through a golf ball and swing and whatnot. And they're so good at quarterbacking. They don't need to be like that ridiculous. at golf. What is your like, what's your go-to gambling game on the course? I love Hammer as long.

Yes. Like I got to be smart with some of the guys that I do play with because I do play golf with some guys that just have an exponentially more amount of money than I do. So like playing $10 hammer for them is nothing. But for me, it could get very dangerous. So I love Hammer. I love Snake. We played Snake at Stream Song Black and it got outrageous.

I love Vegas. as long as I'm not playing with guys that I know are going to be birdie in six, seven holes. Flipping it. Vegas gets nasty. That game can get harsh. Yeah. Yeah.

That could get, like that could get, especially if you're playing on a course against the guy or grew that like, you know they've got the game to get birdies, but also you can like, it's a course where you can blow up a hole or two. And like there's a ton of water or OB or whatnot. So I think Hammer, just like if you play with the right people, I mean, you're just hammering left and right at each other. I love it. That's great. Good list of games you got there.

Who are some of your guys, like your favorites on the PGA tour you root for right now? I've become a massive Rory fan. Like, I felt like I was always a Rory fan, but just the way he's handled, like, the last year or two, and I think he's like his leadership and his personality and his character is shown. So love Rory. I love Homa. I remember watching, like, a golf channel piece on maybe, like, Homa

coming out of qualifying school or something like that or maybe rookie, like meet this rookie tour segment. So I've become a big fan of Homa. He roasted my golf swing on the internet, I think two or three years ago from Stream Song. I love Speath. Those are some of the obvious ones. I'm trying to think of who else I might love.

Tiger is my favorite athlete ever. I'll always love Tiger. I love Rahm just because his guy. Golf swing makes absolutely no sense to my brain. Sheffler, I got a chance to hang out a little bit with Sheffler and Sam Burns last year. Ricky did a piece, but I love Sheffler, just the unassuming greatness that he has. It's been really cool for golf. Yeah, I think it's in a really, golf's got so much young talent.

Do you remember what Max said on his swing roast? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He said, now I can see how you stepped out of the back of the end zone or something like that. Yeah, it's like your lack of awareness of your feet. It all makes sense now. Yeah. Yeah. We are striving to be the first show you've ever been a guest on to not bring up the safety. That's gone. And you did it. I brought it up. That's a me thing. No, he brought it up. That's fair. He brought it up. That's not on me. I tell you what, Max, he is witty, man. Like, he pumps out a lot of those things, but it's good. He's very knowledgeable of everything that goes on. He's a funny.

And the great thing is he treats social media the way it should be. You know, like so many people think so like personal and direct. And Max just uses it as a platform to either laugh at himself or laugh at other or make others laugh. Like it's, that's really what it should be for. Yeah, I think there's a ton of people out there that feel like they know Max and never have met Mack. You know what I mean? Just because he is out there and he's pretty and he'll respond. And it's like, yeah, I know this guy when I watch him, even though, you know, he makes it.

He made eyes on him maybe. It makes it easy to root for him as well, too. Like he's said, he's because social media, I feel like he's become so likable in many ways. No doubt. Yeah, I think he might be the most likable guy. Yeah, now his game player on earth. Yeah, now that he's top 10 in the world.

All right, we'll put you on the spot because the master's coming up just a few weeks. I need a master's champion and also next year's Super Bowl prediction. Yeah. Ooh. I mean, I'll going to be rooting for Tiger, but I won't pick him as my champion. I think picking Sheffler is cheating right now, because of the way that his golf game is playing. I'll say Spieth.

I think Spieth is having some moments of solid golf. And I just, me being like the person who wants to watch intense golf on the weekend with everything. Like I would be, I'll be, I'll pick Speeth. I'll be rooting for him. Super Bowl champion of next year. You can't say the Chiefs because it's boring and cheating and like do something else. So. Give us the matchup.

I need both teams. All right. So, AFC. Stay in that same division, though, maybe. Just shut up, sleaze. Right. You're right in the warm spot there.

Not going to be the Broncos. All right. So from the NFC, I'll take San Francisco. I think that one of those quarterbacks will play good enough and they just signed Hargrave. So I think that's San Francisco and the NFC and the AFC. I'll throw a flyer out there just because, again, I like to tick people off, Jacksonville. Wow.

They're coming. All right. They're coming. They got Ridley back now. Ridley, if Ridley is anything like what he was before suspension, I mean, their offense is going to be a problem. And Trevor taking a huge step forward in third year, they'll easily win that division if they stay healthy.

Their defense is super talented as well. So I'll take that Jacksonville, just for fun. Okay. A flyer. I like it. Perfect. All right. Well, let's get to.

Do you hate those picks? Tweet Dan Orlovsky. Yeah. Bummer. Tell him he's an idiot. All right. Let me's get to our E9 segment here. we let you get out of here. I know you're a busy man. You got NFL live to get to.

But you've made it very clear on all your shows. You're not the most adventurous eater out there. I mean, it's very boring, very plain, which is fine. I respect it. But we're just going to say Dan Orlovsky wins the Masters and gets to plan the champion's dinner. What is going to be on the menu? And if you say just grilled chicken, this show's over. Is your dinner, Dan? Grill chicken. What's your dinner? My dinner. All right. Chicken parm. Chicken parm with penny noodles, very light sauce on it on both the noodles and the chicken parm, Caesar salad, and we'll go a warm brownie for dessert.

Dark chocolate. You can't get too upset. Milk chocolate's atrocious. Right before you said that, did you say grilled chicken with ketchup? Yeah. Are you a ketchup guy? Love ketchup. Love it.

Dude. I love you. You're my hero. Like an eight-year-old. You know what I'll do at? You know what I'll do at times? I'll take old spaghetti or noodles that my wife has made, put them in a frying pan, butter, like, crisp them up and just douse them with ketchup.

Okay. Yeah, I've heard people do that. That was like a college meal for a lot of when you had no money. Like, what's the cheapest thing I can put in my stomach? That was it. 100%. That was it? Still works.

Still works. Still works. Timeless classic. All right, here we go. Of all your quarterback buddies who have signed massive deals, like you mentioned, which quarterback have you taken the highest percentage of their content? contract on the golf course. Oh, Stafford. Stafford, but Stafford's also gotten lucky with me at some money, but Stafford's got a golf game where like if he's on, he can get hot and play well, but if he's

squirly, it gets sideways real fast, especially if it's spinning because he hits the ball, dumb high and it spins a ton and if the wind's going, you can get him. So he's gone on a couple golf trips, so I've been able to take a little, probably him or Matt Schaubb. Shobby lost a couple dollars down in stream song last week. So, um, uh, probably Stafford or Matt Schaub. I like it. Good to have super rich friends signing massive deals with Hollywood handicaps, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We got, we, that is the dream. Uh, shop got shop, we, he lucked out. We played on black, we played snake like I was talking about. And it got to like the 11th or 12th hole. And the snake started at five bucks. And it got to like $800

real fast. And we were like, both groups said to each, like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, like this is going to get ridiculous. So we kept it at like $800 payout each guy, but we kept track of it and it was going to get, if we had kept going to have to pay every guy like $5,300. Ooh, that'd have been a good one. That's, yeah. That's dumb.

That's dumb. That's wasn't a fun golf trip type of thing. But shabby's paid me a lot of money. Rules of rules. It must be abided by. Yeah. All right. Next one.

Why every time? that you, Derek Anderson and Swanee have lunch together. Do you always insist on picking up the tab mostly after a round of golf? Because freaking Swanee was a sandbagger for a long time. That's why. And so Swanee used to, and I'm hardheaded because like Swanee was a better golfer than me by far. And we would always play and he'd be like, Dano. How many strokes do you want? If you're like, I'm not taking any of your fudging strokes, dude. Like I'm just going to beat you. Netto. Never, yeah, get out, never beat him.

And then Derek, I used to always joke with Derek, while Derek had an incredible football career. I used to be like, Derek, if you ever worked in football, as hard as you do in golf, you'd be a Hall of Famer. Because, like, that dude, all he does is go work on his golf game. It's been that way for 20 years. And I'd be, like, go throw some. He'd like, I'm going to go hit some wedges.

So it was mainly because I would lose it to them in golf. I love that. There is not a human being. on earth, I feel confident saying this, that wants to be a plus for more than Derek Anderson. And his swing, period's awful. He's got a dog trash swing. He's got that little rodeo. We got caught the little rodeo at the top. It gets up there and it waggles around and then it comes down. But he hits it so. When he first retired, dude, he practiced more than the tour guys. Yeah, when he was out at Whisper Rock all time. Yeah, I'm just going to go hit balls. I'm going to

go hit balls. Okay. McCord would always say, what, he's got more planes than LaGuardia. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Everything moves all around. It's true. All right, there's a broadcast question for me, for you. You're on the broadcast. Colt's on the broadcast. In order for Colt to take it to the next level,

do you think he needs to utilize the fart noise a little more often, like you have done so well? You've got to find a way to cut through. You get taught in this industry. Agreed. Are you going to cut through? Well, quite literally. You've got to do something to stand out a little bit.

You can't be ashamed of it. The fart noise plays. I liked it for the record. A lot of questions around that. but I knew it was going on. I don't know the true story. All right. So this is truth.

This is the truth of what happened. So it's my first time ever doing Monday night football. You know, it's week two of the NFL. I've done games before, but this is Monday night football. And it was the first time I'm ever doing a game with this crew. Like when it comes to producer,

director, hostee, Levy, Lewis, Reddick, analyst, all that stuff. And so five minutes before, like, we're going on air, they're like five minutes to tape. You know, and so we were coming on live.

television with a taped kind of opener, right? And I'm like five minutes to tape. Like, what the fudge are we talking about? So like three minutes to tape, two minutes to tape. And I go like, hey, what are you guys like, like two minutes to tape? What are we talking about? And Levy like made a joke out of it. He's like, yeah, two minutes to tape, Dan, it's a thing that Josh and I. So I thought we were taping the open. And so I'm speaking and I messed up speaking. And so in the middle of me like miss speaking, I go. And all sudden, and my producer and my ear goes, you're on live television. And Levy looked at me.

He's like, keep going. And I was like, oh gosh. I, you know, so I was, I mean, I should have been aware we were on live TV. And it's definitely my mistake. But I thought we were taping something. So that's why I was like, and right when I did it, I was like, that one's not going to go over too well. Everyone thought you farted. Like you coughed and or sneezed and farted.

I was like, no, dude, he just was like, you know, he couldn't get his words out. But everyone ran with the fart conspiracy. It was beautiful. It was tremendous. tremendous. No such thing. bad pub dude by the way though when five minutes to tape I would have been the same thing like oh yeah we're just gonna tape this thing that's what I thought I've told it because I've taped opens

before I you know like or you rehearsed them multiple times so I 100% thought we were taping and right what it happened I went to my phone right away and had like 30 text messages and I was like oh man this is just gonna become a thing yeah we did one at pebble beach a few weeks ago we had some time to kill and we I thought we were gonna tape it and then insert it yeah and we did it and like I nailed it It was great. And then all of a sudden they're like, okay, that was good rehearsal. And I'm like, well, I got to do that again on live TV. No, no, no, no.

Let's just put that one in there. It works out perfect. And I hate tape things. Like, I hate tape. Like if I sometimes like SportsCenter will ask me to tape a touchscreen, it'll take me 27 takes where when it's, I don't know what it is with me, but like when it's live, I very rarely like have some type of mess up or whatnot,

taping all the time. That's a good thing. You lock in when the lights are on. All right. Number seven, who yells at you more? Stephen A or your wife? Stephen A. Stephen A. Stephen A yells at me more about stuff that has to do with my wife than my wife does.

You know, like Stephen A yells at me for being cheap with my wife or not flying her in class or whatnot. My wife never complains about that. My wife, like, completely understands it. So I'm fortunate. I don't have a wife that yells at me much. She gives me some looks, but she doesn't yell at me much. But Stephen A yells at me a lot. Stephen A will text me in all.

capitals, meaning, killing at me about something. That's great. Well, hold on. Let me just go to my next one because it goes right into that, and then you can have the last one. Yeah. Because he does give you a hard time about being cheap. You know, Max Home has been very vocal about like, he won't buy Fiji water. He won't buy Wi-Fi on the airplane because it's ridiculous. Victor Hovlin came out that he doesn't do guac at Chipotle because he shouldn't have to pay for it. What's the one thing you refused to pay for? Or at least like maybe indulgent. Yeah, a lot to be honest. You like, but one thing like fancy fancy shoes or clothes or luggage. I say this to like my friends and my wife all the time.

Do we comprehend that the fundamental reason why shoes were invented was to keep dirt off of our feet and the reason why luggage was invented was to keep dirt off of our stuff? So why am I going to spend a lot of money on something that is going to get disgustingly dirty? So like when my wife is like, you know, you need new shoes, I'm like 80 to $100. Like just find a pay. pair of shoes that are $80 to $100. Same of the luggage. We need new luggage. I'm like, no, we don't.

Does it open and close? It's little, you do watch the people at the airplanes. They take our stuff and go, why my? That's great point. I'm a very simple man. Like, I don't have, I'm not into cars. I'm not in the clothes. I'm not into watches.

I say it all the time. The only things that I'm okay spending money on are like, obviously like time with my family, red wine and golf trips. Those are the only things that I'm like, whatever. cost i'm good with i love it's really all you need i'm at the airport i see these louis suitcases i'm like why yeah dude i don't get it it's all just ego they literally body slam your bags onto the conveyor belt it's like wwe i'm like you're spending two grand whatever for i don't know how much the cost but like next time you're in airport watch this you go into the men's bathroom don't gonna bring those three

four five thousand dollar bags in and put it next to a urinal and go to the bathroom you see in the floor next to the urinal bro it's like a river runs through it and then I'm like, how does this happen? I'm like, what are we doing? Do you know gross that is? But by the way, here's $4,000. So give me like whatever $60 bag I can get. All right, this next one actually kind of speaks to this theme here that we might have.

In your opinion, how well does a big screen TV survive an outdoor Detroit winter? I've experienced it. Pretty good. Pretty good. I've had a big screen television outside for a while now, and I've lived in cold weather climate. So they've survived. Don't spend money on the outdoor television. Just go buy a television once every couple of years. I was told that you had a big boy in an apartment that you were sharing with Swanee and the season ended your lease ends and you're going to park your, I think it was an

avalanche at the facility. Do you remember this? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you had some questionable decision making regarding the television. Well, it goes back to being cheap. I didn't want to pay for the apartment when the during the time of the offseason I wasn't there. I wasn't going to pay to ship the stuff, but I could park my car at the facility for free. So I took my television and I put it in the truck, my avalanche and left it in there for two or three months when I wasn't there. And I came back and it didn't work. That's it. That is a fair point, Swanee. Put a blanket over. It's like parking in Antarctica. Cheaper. Cheaper to all this stuff though to buy a new three and four $400 television was cheaper. So valid. Dan, man, we appreciate that. That was so much

fun. Keep doing what you're doing. You're killing it. Huge fan. Thank you so much for coming on with us. I appreciate you guys. There's a lot of fun. I hope to connect sometime in real life on a golf course or something. Love to. Any got it. Thanks, Dio. Appreciate you, boys. All right, well, that was Dan Orlovsky, joining us on subpar.

Love it. Sitting right there in the ESPN studios. Had Schefter down there to the right. On his phone. As he said, shockingly, on his phone. Sending out a million tweets. But what a great dude, man. I've never got to meet him in person. Actually met on Twitter. We're all great relationships. start and was nice enough to come on and join us. That trip to stream song, he sent me the video. He told me about this night putting contest. I've never been there. I just thought there might be

a putting green with some lights outside. They were actually in the lobby of the hotel. The putt got up to over $3,000. One man made it. The other man had to make the same putt. This is like 30 feet through the lobby before it gets to the actual putting mat. Yeah. A lot of stuff has to go right. Guy stepped up and topped him. Counted it to push the bet. Exactly. Johnson, get that guy's info, not afraid of the big stage. But I love it. My favorite part was my wife's a maniac when talking about Philly fans. I told him about the disgusting Eagles grain that didn't go over too well with some of the people in this world.

But I glad that he agrees. All Eagles fans are maniacs. They're a little different. They're built different. They hate Santa Claus. They pretty much hate everything. They hate their team when they're good. They hate them more when they're bad.

How about his Super Bowl prediction? Jags 49ers are going to be a trendy. I feel like hot pick coming in the way they finish that season, their division, all that stuff. They're going to be, I think they're going to be a trendy little pick come football season. Let's pay attention to his master's pick because it's just a week away. He's going with the golden child, Jordan Spieth. Hard to knock that too. Easter Sunday and Jordan Spieth go together like the Easter bunny.

You know what I mean? Yeah, like we were talking about, I like getting into the first take stuff. Like, no, it's not state. Because sometimes I'm like, dude, they go on before. And you take this side. I'll take this side. I don't care if you believe it or not. Just argue it and we'll have a debate or whatever.

Apparently, not the case. But they do say some wild shit on that show. So I always was like, dude, that's got to be staged. And he makes fart noises during the NFL Rock. It's like I said, dude, mix that into the golf sometimes. Oh, you'll me throw that out there. Guy chunks a little chip. Lucas Herbert chips it from the water into the walk, you know, just out of the water,

into the water. And Lucas Herbert over here with this third, and it's in the drink. It would be nice. Okay. I'll take your advice. I'll write that down. Use that, dude. All right.

Let's get to some picks. We're not quite to Masters week yet. Like I said, one week away. We got the Valero, Texas open. Last chance for someone who's not qualified to book their ticket to a Gus of National, by the way, you just booked yours recently. Good job. I'm official. I'm so proud of you. I'm so proud of you. Flights were still available. It got done as expected. Time to spare. I feel like I got out in front of that pretty early. All right. Well,

pretty decent field heading to San Antonio. Everybody obviously wants to get in this into the Masters this year. You know, last week, I don't even count last week because that's pretty much impossible just to pick. I took Jason Day. He made it out of his group, but I mean, it's impossible. We're just going to wash that week. I've picked nothing right in March. March needs to end. I am getting destroyed in everything. I officially have no teams in the final four and I've lost virtually every bad I'm made. Responsibly I've lost it. 99.9.9% of America or the world, whoever does all the brackets doesn't have a team left in the final four. Yeah. Responsibly, I'm going to have the four calls on my house. So for my favorite this week, I'm going to go with the guy

who's trending in a very nice direction. Upset John Rom last week in the first match right out of the gate. He's got a win to get in. Felt just short of getting that top 50 invite. Ricky Fowler going off at 20 to 1. Here we go. Come on, Rick. Thought he had it. After that opening win against Rom, I was like, that's it. You control everything. He's going to get out of that. And that was just, I mean, weird shit happens in match play. The swing looks good. I know he's extremely motivated right now. He's had his chance to win Augusta a couple times. He's played well there. I know it would mean a lot to him. Come on, Rick. Bring it home for me. He's fractions away. from being there. All right, I'm going a little further down the board. I feel like this one's a

hard one to handicap. Guys that are already in the Masters feel like they kind of use it as prep week, maybe hit some shots they wouldn't hit, things like that. And you got the guys that are not in there. With that being said, go to the guy hadn't played a ton this year, but I thought what he did last week was impressive. Made it out of his pool in a tough pool. He's a low ball hitter, good in the win. He's a guy that typically not going to beat himself. Maybe he doesn't have the firepower, but I think on a hard golf course, like they're going to see this week with the wind probably up. I like his odds to at least top 10. I'm going to go with Matt Coocher

28 to 1. Okay. Cooch's playing some better golf. I'm going to have a feeling you don't know a whole lot about my dark course. Tell me about how dark. He's 44 to 1. But he's 29th in the FedEx Cup. Three top tens on the season. I think it's very important to drive

the ball well at TPC San Antonio. There's a lot of trouble around there and it's not penalty areas. It's shit. Rocks, break your arm. So Kevin Donbeck of 112. They didn't even know what he made. All right. He's 27th in total driving so far this year on the PGA tour.

Okay. He's from Belgium. Thomas Dietree, 44 to 1. The Dietrich. You got that? Yeah, he's starting to show up a bit. The Dietree dish. You like that?

Yeah, throw that out on the mix as well. I'm going to go with another guy then down the list that a lot of people probably don't know a whole lot about. I would say it's safe to say. Coming off a runner up and the Dominican had a put to go to a playoff on the final hole against Matt Wallace. Nikolai Hoygard going off at 55 to 1. Playing mostly on the DP World Tour. He's got three top 15s over there this year. He's only 22 years old.

He's got a lot of upside, short compact swing, if you see it, but still generates a lot of power. Just played really well in the wind out there in Dominican. I assume they're going to see some heavy wins this week down there in Texas as well. A little different ball game, but I'll just ride hot hands. Give me Nikolai Hoaguard. All right. That's what you do.

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All right, well done. So we've got a little bit of member guests left up in you. You know what I mean? All right. By next time we come on, there'll be an NCAA champion. It's whittled down to four now. So maybe we can actually pick something. Who you got?

Yukon the betting favorite. They are beating. I think everyone's going to take Yukon. Everyone's head in right now. Exactly. Who you like? So therefore, since everyone's probably going to go with them,

you know, growing up I was a diehard Texas Longhorn fan. Yeah. They absolutely puked that game off against Miami. But Miami, there's just something about that team. They got a lot of swag. I like their action.

I'm going to hurricanes. And they shoot free throws like crazy. They're good. That's my pick as well. I kind of walk Florida Atlantic just because it'd be a hell of a story that no one's ever heard of them. And here they come. First Final four ever.

But I'd probably go with Miami. on the betting odds. Everyone's going to have Yukon. I don't want to do that. And also, it's the end of an era at the final four. This will be the last one for the great Jim Nance. Do it in his home city of Houston. A lot of special things going to be happening.

It's a former home city, I should say. There are a lot of special things for him that week, but hats off, tremendous career. I'm going to be sad to see you go from the final four. Whoever gets that tie, hold on to it. All right. Everyone have a great week. We'll talk to you on next week's golf subpar.