Subpar - Drew Kittleson and Drew Stoltz break down their unlikely run at the USGA Four Ball

Episode Date: May 31, 2022

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Hello world. Welcome back to golf subpar with Colt Nost and Drew Stoltz. We are coming off the Sleazy Man's old home track, Colonial Charles Schwab Challenge, where Sam Burns took down world number one, Scotty Sheffler, in the playoff. The story early in the week, that was you on the bag for Wyndham Clark. What the hell happened, man? You're rolling on good. I'm sitting at the hotel looking, checking like, okay, they're going to be around for the weekend at least. Yeah. And then all of a sudden, you were back in Scottsdale.

There was no reason not to be around for the weekend. And we had a little, it's just one of those things, man. I talked to a lot of people about it, including Wyndham, like in depth. It's just as soon as the, everything's going along fine. As soon as the collar starts getting a little tight, one bogey. We were plenty inside the cut line. Bogied five. I was like, okay, everyone bogey's five is the hardest hole in the world.

No sweat at all. Part of the next hole, but things were just getting a little tighter, a little tighter. And then seven, we had a bad tee ball. All of a sudden we can't hit the green. We got to chip it up front, boom, chip it up 10, 12 feet, miss. All right, now, all right, it's getting a little tighter. And then eight was this hole that really cost us. We tried to play it underneath the whole pick a club that couldn't go long.

And he damn near hold it on the fly to that back pin. It rolls over to the grandstand. Another bogey there without really hitting a bad shot. So bad club on you? And then 18. Hold on. Go back to number eight because for the guys that don't know, it was 197. 197.

The flag, 191 to get up top to the top tier. And it's a huge. And a little puff in. It's a huge. No, no. Everybody has red X's in the yardage book. Long is no good. I believe it's seven iron.

We talked about it in depth. Yeah, so Davis Riley got up before us. We've been about a club longer than Davis. I mean, Wyndham hits it so damn far. It was really hard to even get used to like trying to pull. I don't even stop even trying to say numbers. I was like, I think he got to fly up 215. Whatever that club is, hit that because he just can hit it weird distances.

But I was like, all right, 197, 191 to get up top. Davis gets up there, hits a six. It just landed probably 15 yards. I don't think he full boarded it, but it landed probably 12, 15 yards short of the flag. Rolled to the bottom of the hill, putting up the hill. no stress that's where you want to be because that top shelf is so small i was like anything that goes underneath we just need hit a club that doesn't you know it takes long out of play 197's the number we've been hitting seven aren't about one 95ish i guess on the week but it was a

little warmer at the time and all that but we had a puff of wind in he's like i think seven is is no problem i was like i agree like i don't eight it definitely ain't an eight like eight that's that's a 200 yard eight iron you know that's a that's not a lot of bat and damned if he doesn't just flush it right at it in the entire time it was in there. I was like, damn, that's good. That might actually get up top too. And it pitched all the way there. But it almost slopes like away on that top shelf up there. Rolls over, rolls by the grandstand. We get to drop relief. Had a good lie. opted to putt it out of that stuff, which he's been chipping it so good. I was a little bit, I just handed him the lob voyage right away. He took the law

voyage, kind of looked at it. I was like, I think I'm just going to put it. They're up there six feet short. Lips that out. So we got another bogey. Then we go into nine. We're sitting at one over now all of a sudden. It just happened like bang, bang, bang. And he's convinced. We need Bertie to play the weekend. I'm not I'm not sure that's the case, but I'm like, looking up,

I'm like, we're T-47 right now. You know, the afternoon, it gets crusty, it gets a little bit windy or it gets tougher. Like,

we know that. One ain't dead, but yeah, even is definitely safe. Y'R. one over at the, we're at one over at the time. Yeah,

and he hits four iron down the middle of the fairway. I was like, if you think you need birdie, I think you should hit three wood over the bunkers because he can't

fly that three wood, like 300 yards, 295. I was like, to bring it back, right? So, like, have something you could chase up that hill. He's like, I like the forearm. I was like, perfect.

I don't hate the forearm at all. It'll give us a wedge, nine, something like that. It's a good forearm. Got wedge from the middle of the fairway. He was running hot at this point, trying to calm him down. He got a little quick, I think a little, just thought he had to hit it to a foot. Left it out right. We ended up making bogey on that whole short side.

It had no chance from where the wedge went, probably the worst swing of the week. And next thing you know, we make bogey. And then I'm on the plane home later that afternoon. He's texting me. He's like, plus one made it in. And I was like, yeah, it's every year, dude, it's even plus one plus three. Like for it to go, it was plus one yesterday, for it to go two less than that and go to, you know, for the day to go to minus one and end up at even. Like that's a pretty big swing.

But it's just one of those things, man, like golf, like, you know, sometimes playing for that cut is the hardest thing. No, it sucks. You know, it sucks. And I can just kind of feel it happening. And it's, he is so talented with golf that as soon as that brain catches up to everything else and he realizes, I'm, I said this to him and I actually talk to Max. and Joe, and I think we're going to have a little talk this week. He reminds me so much of Max home up three years ago. Pre-Max, where he exploded and started winning and he's going to be on our

President's Cup team and all that stuff. All of us talked about like, Max, you're so talented. You're so good. Everything's great. And Max was the only one that didn't believe it. I think Wyndham's in that state right now where he's everyone that sees it. I mean, dude, we got up on 11, the second day. First group off, 720 off.

First group, it's Dewey. It's calm. There's no win, but the ball's not going as far. I was in a little jacket at the time. We step up on 11. He hits a drive. I mean, I haven't seen any like this in my entire day. 342 down the center, like flies the left bunker, basically.

We have like 270 into the pin. First group off, like I said, we're 50 in front of everybody else in our group. We end up making six. Hit three wood into the right hazard. Whether it's back right, you can miss it left anywhere you want to. Just little things like that. And like even Joe Griner sent me a text later that afternoon. He's like, dude, we stepped on 11.

We were in the afternoon. We had like a good drive. we get up there and look at longest drive of the day, Wyndham Clark, 3.42. And I was like, yeah, we made a sixth on that hole. Just like little things like that, you know what I mean? The raw material is all there. He just had a long time since he's felt like he's gotten much out of, like,

a round of golf, you know what I mean? It's like, all right, if you're hitting it good, you're not putting good. If you're putting it good, you're not hitting it good. He just needs a day or two where everything really lines up because the talent level is, I'm not just saying this because he's my boy, but it's ridiculous. It's top 10 level talent, but brain's a big piece of that. How'd you enjoy that big bag? Oh, sucked ass.

I got showed up. He's like, sorry, dude, try to get titles to send a carry bag. Apparently they don't do that anymore. So we had the big bag, and Ellis wears his straps backwards. He carries it like a left-hander. So they're all out of whack and all this thing. So I was just basically going one strap most of the time, rotating right shoulder, left. I had a great caddy group, by the way.

A boy, Bird Dog, Justin York, was in the house with Adam Shank. And then Lance Bennett, who was on the bag for Harrington for a while and then went over to Davis-Riley. Also, I had the best caddy group you could possibly have. Lance is a 10. York's attend, talked to them like the entire time. I just couldn't have had a better caddy group, honestly.

And Davis got to know him a little bit. You were the second best caddy in the group. I mean, York's definitely. Ahead of York. He said, ahead of York. York just told me about what he's eating and how much weight he's lifting all the time. Like, yeah, I just got out all carbs

and I just bench press all day. Let's lock. He's a shit house, by the way. He's a big boy. Might not all be legal. But that's topic for another day. Yeah. But let's talk a little about the Charles Schwab challenge

because Sam Burns, once again, picks up his third win the season. Scotty Sheffler was looking for his fifth. Ended up, they battled it out in a playoff where Sam Burns made an incredible put. But I was there on Sunday. I've never seen Colonial. So crispy, so windy. I mean, this place was given these players.

How we saw Harold Varner, the third play a seven-hole stretch and ten over when he had the lead. It was chaos out there. That's what makes that golf course so fun. If you can catch the conditions, if you catch it calm and benign, you can go get after that place. But you rarely get that at Colonial. And they didn't have the ton of rain like they had at the beginning.

beginning of the week last year so the greens were getting firm even Thursday when we're out there in the afternoon was like damn these things are getting crusty you could see the little sheen on them if you weren't playing from the fairway you had no chance they were catching this crazy flyer lies balls coming in with no spin and then go to sunday and you get you get the heavy wind out there just show like there's a seven that more or less 7000 yard golf course a little north of that 7200 and what one nine under nine single digits I mean you don't have to make these things 70 and it's a perfect example and that course is really well designed and you need to a little help from other nature the wind played a huge role in it but you can do it and it

was all those guys could ask where i mean scottie sheffler is the best player in the world right now going through and not making a bird that's hard to get him on a golf course where he doesn't make a bird so the last person to win a golf tournament not make a birdie in the final round i believe was vj sing at the 2004 pGA so it doesn't happen very often as which i mean you you'd never expect to but here's sam burns who goes out there like an hour and a half before the leaders post nine under probably had his club glove packed up ready to go ready to get back to shreve for and all of a sudden, bam,

I'm in a playoff. Because it was jammed up. It was 10. There's five people tied up and there's five at 10. All right, takes one, a,

just one of them's got to play it at par into the house. Just one, and it's over. And you got to figure one of those guys that were playing that good

and going to make a couple birds and it'd be done. It's just like one by one, disaster or bogey, bogey. I thought Davis Riley was going to be, just watching him Thursday, Friday.

We were paired with him. We had him as our dark horse. He was our dark horse. I was like this dude, it's just, it's rock solid man there's just not a weakness the length is plenty good the iron play i mean it's at it all the time he misses it in the right there's a tough pin he hits it in the right spot inside 10 feet didn't miss the center the center of the old i made one bogey and thursday friday and he had missed

it on a short-sighted on on 16 and couldn't get a chip close that was the only bogey and i mean dude it was just rinse repeat over and over for him yeah he's impressive he's going to get it done eventually and he can probably afford a nice little new timepiece with this ride he's Are you kidding me? How about a little tag Hoyer in the house? Because if you're passionate about golf, Tag Hoyer is setting a new dimension in watchmaking through cutting edge technology with a newly released Connected Calibur E4 Golf Edition. Swing detection and shot distance tracking, interactive maps, smart scorecard, the Tag Hoyer connected caliber E4 is the high performing companion to any golfer who wants to take their game to the next level. The tag Hoyer connected caliber

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Absolutely. Well, this week's episode is something special slash terrifying. I actually got to be a solo host this week in interview. You and your partner Drew Kittleson who had an amazing run at the, the USGA 4 ball where you ended up fishing runner up. I don't want to talk any more about it, so we're going to get in, we're going to get right into the episode. But first, I want to tell you a little bit about Dewars and the US Open, which is coming up very, very fast. We're going to be there. And the U.S. Open is where Golf's Elite come together to determine the world's best.

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at my home course, Royal Oaks Country Club back in Dallas. Joining the likes of Don January, Lee Trevino, D.A. Y, bring Justin Leonard. Really, really cool on her. They put me in a little bronze, my face in bronze, which, listen, Ronaldo, one of the prettiest men on the planet, looked terrible in bronze, so therefore, no surprise. I don't look my best. Did you not like the, how did the bus,

come out. Not my favorite. I was like, really, guys, this is what y'all do to me? I saw the picture. I saw some people say me some big, but I couldn't really like, it was like sideways, so I couldn't really like see the face or whatever. But those are, I don't know how people make those look realistic anyways. If they can butcher Rinalda, I mean, if you butcher Rinaldo, you betcha everyone.

They can butcher you. The dude's basically a statue as it is. But really cool moment. I got some good scoop because I was, wanted to be there for you. Yeah, you were supposed to speak. Wanted to be there for you. Couldn't do it because of this, the show we're doing with Wyndham Clark for the Golf Channel, but got some scoop, was sending some text, and then I ran in Randy Smith the next day

and talking about it. I was like, yo, how was it supposed to be there? He's like, oh, it was awesome. I was like, how my boy hold up. He's like, oh, water works. It was his fault. I was like, yeah, as he should be, dude. They're no shaming. No, there's no shame. It was no sweat. It was great, but the Big Cat, Frank Voight stepped in for you. How'd he do? He can do a hell of a job, I bet. He had no idea, actually. Oh, impromptu? So I'm standing next to him and they're like, we're going to bring up the president of the Coltonnose fan club, Frank Big Cat. void and he's like what he's like I had nothing prepared so he goes up there and then randy's up there and he's like congratulations on becoming a filler frank so my first line was

frank i'm so proud of you graduated from fluffer to filler that gotta ease the moment a little bit but it was a lot of fun it's a good guy to have to speak on your on your behalf if i could do it he is he is very very special it was it was a cool moment though that's congrats to you do that's that's that's a cool thing and um not surprised that place took me in man that's a second Emotion. Yeah, it was awesome to see. It was a lot of fun. And you know, it was awesome to see you and the kitty cat,

Drew Kittleson, make a run at the USGA 4 ball. Here it is. Well, everyone, this is the first. I'm about to interview Drew Stoltz and Drew Kittleson. Welcome back to golf subpart. Coming off an incredible run at the USGA 4 ball, where they went from alternate to damn near winter, ended up finishing runner up.

I'm not quite sure y'all have even recovered yet from all the golf you played. How are we feeling, guys? I was just getting back healthy dude and then I had to go back down and carry Wyndham's bag for the week or for half the week at least and the staffer he had this year I was like all my shit that was healing up I had some blisters I had some other situations that you run into in human conditions I was all going away and then it just was like back just like that so I'm still I'm beat up washed my feet are a disaster I still like got little like those blood clots things that get on the end of your toe I mean, just disaster. And I'm not made for that. At 33 with a job, I'm not made for 36 holes in the gold bond lotion, the whole thing, the whole nine yards. When was the last time you walked 18 holes, not counting the qualifier, which we did, which was in, like, September?

Can't even tell you. Same. Don't even have a recollection. When we play at Whisp, Brock, like, you'll walk like three or four holes, just talking to Stowe. If there's a good story going, then I'll walk. Otherwise, I'm in the car to 100%. Otherwise, I'm out. Well, let's go back because the qualifier, which is crazy to me, was all the way back in September, correct?

Of 2021. Way long ago. Yeah. Okay. And then fast forward. We got the four ball coming up. Y'all are, I didn't even realize y'all were second alternate coming out of the site here in Arizona. And thanks to a team turning down going there, y'all are next in line.

And y'all get the call on a Wednesday, I believe. Yeah, Tuesday morning, I think is when I got the call. Our thing was in September. We had gone. I've forgotten all about the four ball. We were alternates. I was like done, toast, especially second. I was like, no chance.

The two teams that made it out were both like two college kids. I was like, all right, if they make regionals, that's kind of way they do it now. If you're a good college player and you make regionals, it conflicts. So you can't go. So I was like, all right, well, maybe one has to bail out or whatever. And I don't know how they do the alternate list. But I was like second. I mean, we got in the playoff.

And it was kind of like, we were just blown it coming. We were like nine. We were playing great. We're like nine under through 12 or something like that. And we were booking flights. Where should we stay? Who do you know down in Birmingham? You know the deal, dude.

Victory. What are we going to say when we win this bitch? And then all of a sudden we made, we both buggy the same hole or something. And then part in, I was like, we're going to be real tight now. Sure enough. That's what happened. All right. So you get the call Tuesday.

The tournament starts on Saturday. On Saturday. Yeah. Saturday. So you're scrambling together. Let's talk about through the booking of the flight situation because I heard it was rather interesting. It all came together at Whisper Rock from what I was being told. Yeah.

So I was in my office on Tuesday morning and I get this phone call from like a new. New Jersey number or whatever the USJ's headquarters at. And I don't answer it. And then I get a voicemail. So I hit Sleez and he was doing on y'all's radio show. So he's like, because the USJ, they can't just like wait. They needed to fill the spot. Yeah.

So then I call him back. I'm like, hey, slees on the radio. So give us a couple hours. I need like three or four hours because I can't, we can't work through if we can make this work. And they're like, Rob was super great about it. We came back, got together, played the practice around for the national. We're at the national. This tournament out, Whist Brock, and just basically called our wives,

you know, looked at some work stuff, got it worked out, and we're like, all right, we should do this? We're like, so do we leave Thursday and, like, maybe check the course out? And we're like, nah. No practice. We're going to be right after the national. We were going to be in a state to get on a cross-thursday flight. So you got a Friday morning flight.

One of you showed up for it. One of you didn't. Let's go through Friday morning real quick. Back me up on this. Yeah. So there's some confusion. Yeah, there's some confusion. 6 a.m. flight.

We're sitting at the, we're sitting at the rock. I was like, I'll just book the flight. We're sitting there. So I book it. No problem. Six o'clock, you're in. He Venmo's me, no stress. We go.

Andrew Medley, a friend of ours is also playing. He's on the same flight as us. So Medley and I are neighbors. We told Slees we meet him at the airport. I think it's a joke. It's like 525. And we're like, hey, Sleas. And he goes, hey, you know, shoot my alarm over slept.

I got you. And I was like, okay, so he'll be walking up any second. And he's like, Southwest, right? We're like, no, dude, American. And he's like, 6.30, right? Like, no, six. And he's like, I'm just parking. We're like, well, we're boarding.

You're not checking your bag. So that's not going to work. So what flight did you have? I had a six, so I booked a ton of shit. Wait, who booked it? Right in a row. My travel agent. You know who my travel agent is.

Shout out Susie. Shout out to Susie. So I got like an influx of like eight different flights that were all being booked. One of them was early on got booked to Birmingham. And then I scrapped it. I was like, no, no. We just put it on hold. Like, I might need this. And then once he booked it, I was like, I don't need that. But it was still showed up in my email. So the night before I went through, I was like, oh, yeah, there's the Birmingham flight. Six 35. All good. Perfect. screenshot. I had it. Confirmation number, all that shit. I didn't even look at the

I didn't know. I don't think I got the one from American because I couldn't find the confirmation number anywhere. So I show up. I'm like, yeah, I need this flight to Denver real quick. I was trying to get on it or through Houston. Oh, by the way, this is what's I thought we were going through Denver. No, it was through Dallas. We talked about going through Dallas. And the Southwest flight that he had already booked was also going through Dallas, as was the American flight at six.

So he was like, there's no way. It wasn't the six because we're going through Dallas. So that's kind of screwed. And you got in like five hours later than everybody. Yeah, I got in like in the evening time. It was like dusk. The sun was going down. I took an Uber to the course, grab my,

because they had a car there, Taylor Wood, Medley had a car like, you just ride with us. We'll go to the hotel. So I showed up. It was like dark. And I was like, well, dude, the range isn't even going to be open. I'm not going to get hit a ball or anything. I was like, maybe I'll hit a couple of puds.

Prepared, as always. Exactly. I showed up. I showed up. I was like, it's the range slope. And like, yeah, yeah. So I just grabbed a little small bucket, went down there, flipped a few wedges or whatever. And then it was dark.

And then we got after it. You mentioned, you all had a car. Talk to me about this car. Because I heard it was a beast of a van. Loaded. Loaded with some very interesting products. Yeah. Well, that thing was.

That thing was hot in the street. Yeah. There was some stuff. It was hot in the streets. The chicks knew we were in Birmingham for sure. We were running the streets. That was in the lasso. The Mariah Carey lasso.

Big, big energy was heavy on the rotation there. There was some big energy in that minivan. It looked like something you'd see seven, five-year-olds spill out of and go to soccer practice. So, you know, most of the time when guys get in town for a tournament, they go to the store, they get their essentials. You know, whether it be gold bond, deodorant, you know, energy bars. Y'all went to the liquor store, I believe. What do we purchase? So I got there because he was late.

And then so Medley and Wood were like going to go play a practice round. And Medley's friend picks stuff from the airport. And they're like, are you going to go play? And I just like grab my 60 degree. I was like, no. And they're like, you're not going to go see the course. And so I walk like three holes. And I was like, I'm leaving.

I'll go to the grocery store forever. And so they finished the practice. What are you going to learn walking around your 60? Yeah. I was like, what am I going to do? It's like, I'm either going to play good or I'm not. And then we'll just move on with my life. And then so I was like I'll go to the store.

Everybody send me the list. So get the text message from it. He's on the airplane at the time, but I know what his list is. So get through it. You know, Taylor Woods like, you know, granola, like some bananas. Alkaline water. Yeah, alkaline water. And then Medley's like, I need tequila and ginger ale.

And then I just got, well, I traveled with 24 airplane bottle of Tidos. Where did you get those, by the way? You traveled with 24. Maybe I had somebody pick them up as we. were leaving as I knew we were leaving for the tournament maybe I had somebody in my house grab them yeah yeah and then so I threw my golf bag so I had those wasn't expecting to really have the week last that long so ran out of those so then we had to go back to the liquor store and get a whole handle of Tito's and then this is actually a good story what day was it Sunday night

after we got into match but I think we'd expired all the little bottles and things like that and we need booze but it's like a dry I don't know it's a dry county right on Sunday on Sunday you can't buy you can't buy booze we're like damn what like this is a problem how are we going to get something not you can't even sell any you can't even get anything then we get the uber driver we uber or we uh not the uber driver the postmates driver we ordered some food like late for the house some chick filet and we text were like yo if you can get a bottle of tito's like we'll take good care of you and sure enough the chick shows up with a brand new bottle of titos with the chickfilette that's the only way we can find booze you couldn't

get it on the sunday in the south it's tough yeah it's called her i'll give you a hundred dollars if you find a bottle of Tito's she was like do you care what the size is i was like just teedos that'd been great if she'd have shown up with an airplane bottle damn damn deal's the deal got you where'd y'all stay how was the lodging situation jill room together i booked my hotel late they were already all booked on it so i booked it like literally in the airport i think in Dallas i got really lucky to get in that same hotel it was like a courtyard marriott down on that strip there was some other a bunch of the usGA people were staying in there nice little joint we didn't we didn't bunk up like college days

You know, now I think now that we're mid-30s, it's like, you know, dudes need a little bit of a little bit of space in there. Yeah, and then we had to shuffle with the car because, like, they teed off. Weren't they separate waves than us, Medley and. Well, no, but they were like two hours before us. Yeah, so they were going like way early. You weren't doing that. Not trying to do that.

So, yeah, we got our stuff. And then Uber. We asked some USGA dudes for a ride. Actually, I think they were going to give it to us, but they were leaving earlier too. And we're like, I would just Uber. We were Uber down there. All right.

We were late the first day. That was super nice because we've been running around, scrambling, waking up. There's a common thing going on right now. I took him to the golf course. And then I brought the car back. Oh, yeah. You took them. I slept like a mother, dude.

I slept like a 10 piece straight through that night. Needed a little recharge. But then we keep like extending our hotel. Because these things, these are the things. Like my wife knows nothing about golf. And so I'm like, hey, I'm playing this term. She's like, when are you going to be back? I'm like, sometime between Tuesday and Sunday, depending on how I play.

She's like, how does that work? I'm like, it's just too. I was like. Don't worry about it. I'll be back when I'm back. The later, the better I'm doing. If I'm back early, I'll be mad. Oh, dude, trying to explain the difference between going from like,

I was like, so there's two rounds of stroke play, and then you get seated. And then after that, it goes into match play. And if you're playing one a separate team, and if they beat you, you lose, you go home. Trying to explain that to my wife was like explaining hieroglyphics to her. I was like, I was like, I'll call you when we lose and we'll come home right after that problem.

I'm 100% sure my wife's going to listen to this. And at the mid-am last year, you know, at those USDA events, she came out and it was in Nantucket. And at the end of every hole, they like announce, you know, Nose 3, Kittleson, 4, Nose, two up. And Hoops is out there following my match and my wife's there. And they would be like, Kittleson, two up. And she would go to Hoops and be like, how is it going? Is that good?

Is that good? Is he two over? God, he sucks. They just said exactly what's happening. They still can't get it. No, dude. So, and then you show up Saturday morning, getting ready to start stroke play. Y'all have a caddy.

I heard he's double bagging it, right? Dude's a monster. Tell me about this caddy. Kitty, tell him. This dude deserves everything. However my feet feel, I can't even imagine how this dude. So he's doubled better. Oh, dude, this other course was hilly.

Yeah, so this dude's name's Chino. Shout out Chino. So I'm playing the National with Chance Holmes. He's like, and I'm dealing during the practice round, I'm not even hardly playing this practice round. I'm just trying to change my whole life around to go to Birmingham. And so we're doing our thing. And he's like, I know a guy who's a member of Shole Creek.

I'll hit him and see if he can find you a caddy. It was like done because we're not going to double. We're not going to carry our own bag around. And I ain't pushing. Just out of principle. Yeah. There was a lot of pushing going on out there. I was like, I can't.

That's changed a lot. That used to do it. Even the young kids were pushing, dude. Dude, you go out to the NCAAs here at Greyhawk right now. You'll see half the field with push cards. You never used to see that. Never. We played a lot of dudes that push and there's a ton of guys out there pushing.

I was like, I ain't pushing. I mean, they're looping my own thing or we're getting a dude. We're getting somebody. So we get this. so Chino. Yeah, Chan took us up with the Shull Creek guy. He used to carry a Shill Creek. He caddies on the corn fairy tour.

Then, so Tyson Alexander, who came down to Birmingham to caddy for Tim McKinney and Will Strickler. They were all college teammates. He hit me on the side and he was like, hey, he's like, how do you have that catty? He's always on the corn fairy tour. And so he's like a totally legit caddy. And he's double bagging it. And we got hooked up through the guy of Shole Creek.

and he was he was awesome he like I can't even imagine double bagging and he I very rarely waited you know we hit some obviously plenty of foul balls and sometimes I'm a little ahead of sleeves on the t-shows so he was like five yards in front so it got tricky so I'm like waiting and he was incredible he was incredible love the guy did he know the golf course pretty well he had never seen it never seen it so y'all you all three of you are going out there all three of you are going out there blind yeah I was like practice around I was like but dude it's going to be here's the par four if you hit in the fairway you're probably and there's the whole like like i'm not a big practice around guy anyway i don't feel like i think i think only thing i like

practice around i'm just hang out gamble have fun with like i don't really like hitting extra putts around the hole like i'm not going to remember oh this one was a half a ball for more than i thought you know what i mean but then after the first round we had chino he was a beast obviously and then like other like there were kids of of members and some other guys like hey yo um you need another guy like we'll grab a bag but the energy was just it felt dialed with chino chino and i was big energy dude didn't want to mess it up i was like chino if you're good going double um let's just keep this thing going so he went the whole week you got taken care of good but he was a monster and he's a real caddy like i said he but yo all right 131 front you know 41 hole you got it all the

way to 52 to the back edge i think it's playing this like he was a real he had all the elevation he's goties for all the south american like corn fairy guys he's he's been with all the dudes down there here hit this again i think that one's in the shit first one to tell us to your third put's probably good so don't even worry about it all right so y'all shoot 130 in stroke play you're the number nine seed things are going well cruising to match play yet put up against a man named ramsie and slutsky in the first match sleazy and the slut big slut that was the first match yeah is that round one yeah dude i not come up to you like i think the first moment i saw you i had gotten like all my registered and done all the stuff and i because

his name was oh it was in the locker room that's where i saw because it was like close to arts and i was like dude there's a guy his last name is slutsky in this field that's so unbelievable I was like, oh my God, what a great name. Sure enough, we get paired up against him in the first round. So, he was nice dude. We talked, you know, we talked a little bit. And then like, like, whole seven or eight, I was like, hey, dude. And his friends, they had, he had some people out there watching him and his partner and stuff.

Anytime he had a good shot, like, good shot, slut. And I was like, this is unbelievable. It feels like you're getting away with something. But not as a joke. No, he's real. They're homies. So he was like, nice sluts. Yeah.

Hey, good one, slut. Let's get him slut. You big slut. You enormous slut. It was awesome. Did you try to recruit it for the radio show? I love you, dude. Yeah, dude, you got the name for Ray.

Oh, my God, that'd be incredible. That would be good. Yeah. What was it like for you? I mean, you've played a number of USGA events. You were runner up to the US amateur. I know y'all don't play a lot of tournament golf nowadays. What were the nerves like heading into matchplay?

Were there any? You know, I think it was exciting because, you know, like the three of us go play like we do. It's just the shit talking and like, oh, you suck and, you know, all the stuff. And that level of, because it wasn't about money or anything, it was even if we're playing for a lot of money, we still want to win. But there's just like a different approach because it's not for money and we were trying. And we had never really played that type of, I had never, even in our mini tour days, we never really got paired together or anything. So I had never really played with him in that type of atmosphere. And it was super fun to kind of play something that we care about.

We joked a little bit. We're like in our lives, in our, like, stupid lives now that we don't do golf stuff. I was like, this is kind of like, you know, this in like a minute. This is the lights. This is the light. This is the bright lives. I was like, this is the lights, dude. We're not like going to play in the freaking in the U.S.

Open. Yeah, you ain't in the U.S. We don't like the lights. We're like, this is the light. This is our lights right here. And it was fun to like actually just like kind of care. I haven't played with nerves in, I mean, it did seven years. You know what I mean?

Since I stopped playing. I play at Whisper Rock. I played two man pro scratches. twin fin that type of stuff and they're fun you try to win and all that but like i didn't play it was just like here's a tournament no money no nothing just go play and it was it was fun to just spin the glove on the first team but all right dude and i got a partner so it's a little less like you know not you're not adding them up and all that the first hole though nobody in that entire field plays the word first hole worse than us zero zero nobody i think let's say i don't know how

we'll want in the final i mean we'll get to a dimensioned in the finals y'all won the first hole. Yeah, that was the only, so we played that hole, I don't know how many times. 14, we either hit 14 or 16 T shots on that hole because we played it like seven times, counting stroke playing all the matches in and then extra holes in the final. Okay, so 16 T shots. Yeah. With a four iron and a hybrid one fairway. Well, the one fairway I hit was in the finals and then I stacked it to like a foot. I was reading, I was reading, I should have done that more. I should have the fairway. I was reading the interview the whole breakdown afterwards on the USGA website. And it's,

said when y'all went to extra holes in the finals both of you missed the fairway and it said which was a common theme for this team throughout the whole week yeah on that hole especially on that hole we could not get through that hole I've been missing it but I've been missing it left which like you can play from over there like I had good looks and I'd 10 feet 12 feet and in numerous times from over there

so I was just like all right left is okay especially with where that pin was on the front right I was like if anything if anything left I just was a little too one of the matches I hit it down right down the middle of the fairway like I was first the shot and I was like Like I did it and it bounces 90 degrees right and rolls into the rough. I said something in the air. We were like, we did it.

And then it still didn't hit the freeway. Yeah. What was like the reaction when you all walk onto the range? Because there's two guys coming down, shirts untucked, got a crookid visor on, high socks, carrying cocktails. What was the reaction from the other players when you are coming to the range each day? I don't know if everybody knew what was in the Yeti. You know what I mean?

Because other dudes were carrying around like water bottles and stuff. I'm pretty sure it was water. I don't know. Maybe they had the same thing going on. But like, the people that know us new and all that, you know what? And we know, like, I didn't know a ton of the guys. Honestly, I think so I saw some familiar faces. I like, oh, that guy, I played college against that guy.

Oh, that's jicky jacks played against that dude. But, I mean, everybody kind of goes about it differently. Like some teams are like, this is the masters and you're showing up and it's all. And then some guys, there are some guys that were like a little bit more like us. One in the high school and the college kids, they got the parents on the bag, caddy. And they're like, you know, I mean, they are. Let's not play these two. drunken guys.

I mean, they are. These two losers go down it. Yeah. Yeah. And then they see Kitty hit a driver and they're like, okay, never mind. Maybe we don't want, yeah, we definitely don't want these. Were you off the deck all week? Kitty hits, for those that don't know, Drew Kittleson hits, normally just makes a ground tea and

sends driver. Yeah. So this week, not that much, honestly, only because I was hitting it pretty straight. And then I just, in that format, I thought, oh, man, I'll just try to, like, smash it way up there. I was hitting it so far. You hit more off the tea up. in the air than I've seen

like out of here in a long time. And then when you did peg it like you were just pegging it like super low. The grass is so different. It wasn't good like kicking. Yeah. Yeah. I'd have a broken toe. Country Club of Birmingham doesn't quite have the turf. Whisper Rock has. No, no. Sorry Greg. Every time I play with him, I'm like too sorry. Sorry, man. Sorry about this massive crater. I just put in your T-box.

But you go on to the second round. You play a guy named Blanton. Blanton and Terry. So you've gone through two rounds. You dust Blanton and Terry. You beat a slut and you beat a drunk Blanton. I mean, how perfect? That Sletsky was perfect. That slatsky match got close. That was when they came down to the wire. Yeah, that was the museum on 17.

That was a big one. We were kind of like not playing all that great. In the first match, like, dude, we got to do something. We were square with two left. Yeah, we weren't making tweets. We were just par. Like, everyone was tied with pars. Pars.

Couldn't make tweets. And then finally 17 happened. And then that second match, that was the match, if I'm remembering, was that the four and three or something like that? Yeah. That was the one where we both, dude, we both. played good golf and it was up in the morning it was soft a little shot out here because on 17 I think we were the match was even we were even and they had a and they had the first match y'all were even

yeah that's the first yeah and he had like he had like 12 foot or like just off the right side like straight uphill he had a great shot in there the other guy and I don't know what I was doing but I'm not having a birdie put that it was inside his and he was off the green from like 35 feet 30 30 30 feet yeah but it had to go through like five feet of french and he just hooped it and then Arcadecino because he used to speak Spanish he kept El Museo because I named Sleez's Putter the museum. We've heard about it a many times in the show. That's the originator.

I was the one who coined it. But and so he goes, hey, vamos el Muccio. El Muccio is so fun. All week and ever even say it in Spanish? I was like, yes, I have to make this. Yeah, it was so great. Well, then y'all get a piece of the number one seed. Yeah, dude.

They're good players. I know those guys. And this one went down to the wire as well. One up. Y'all had some stressful matches. We did have some stress. Well, that second one was the one I think we both played good go. I bet you if we go back, we both made four or five birdies,

and I bet we only overlap one time. I bet we were eight, at least eight under through 15 holes. And it was kind of like he played all he plays. I don't know we played as I play. I don't know we do that every time. We're tough. Somebody's going to have to make. I know we were six under through nine.

We shot 30 on the front, and then we made multiple more on the back before the thing was done. So we'll probably like eight under or something like that. And we get to that match. I know these dudes. They both played in Canada. They're good players. I think they've made deep runs in this.

One of them's like still playing a bunch of stuff. You know, he goes to sectionals every year. He's tight with, um, Tori plays at Virginia Country Club. So he's tight with Malley and all the dudes from Virginia and all those guys. That's a really good team. I think they made deep runs in that. So going to that match, I was like, this is a, this is a real deal. And yeah, they were the one seed, yeah?

Yeah, they were the number one seed. I was like, we're going to have to, this for the third match like this is one of the squads right here. And they're good players, good players. Which match was it where the USGA official called you out for not helping Kitty at all. Stroke play, a qualifier in the stroke play.

Oh, that was stroke play. Yeah, that was in the stroke play. I made, like, no, I made one tweet. Kitty tweeted it too. And then the rest was just like, I made bogs and pars. And then Kitty made all the tweets and par of the holes that I made bog on. I was like, look, and I was like, I don't think I've really counted. From my sources, what I was told was, you all, you all get in there.

And the USG officials added up. He's like, wait, Drew, you shot 67. So did your team. And he looked at you and said, so you didn't help at all. Yeah, I was like, thanks, shit, bird. fully aware. Nice. Thanks. That was in stroke plan. It's like a good day. That's incredible. He's verbalizing it. As he's talking as he's saying it, he's like, whoa. Huh. So you didn't do. Oh, sorry. I was like, but he goes, just do it. Just say it. He goes, sorry, but you didn't. Yeah. You didn't help one time.

I said on the tweet because I think I was first in and he had like a kick it like a short put for Brits. Like that's mine dog. That's my tweet. That's first in. That thing counts, bro. Right that. Put that under my name. Yeah, nine. I was like, that's me. Yeah. I love it. You'll play the 36th whole day.

You're on to the semis the next morning. All of a sudden, you're starting to do interviews. There's videos circulating. You're the buzz of the PGA championship in Tulsa. What was the night like getting ready for the finals? Got to move hotel rooms. I too believe. Yeah, because we kept just going one night at it.

Like, all right, we need to extend. We need to extend. We need to extend. Like, we don't have any. We're like, we had to pick up all our shit. You know, throw it in the van and all that. Like, all right, we'll figure it out when we get done. Go to another hotel and then another hotel.

Yeah, everything in Brent, something was going down and B-Han. It was popping. It was popping. Dude, there was no room. Worst traffic ever for not the biggest city in the world. We only stayed in like a two-mile radius from where we were. But yeah, we had to pack up all our stuff, get in there, go through that. But like just leading into it, that's when, you know, you make match play later.

You win a match with you. Like some, you know, your close friends like, yeah, let's go and all that stuff. But then it started getting like more and more people. Like, I'd come back to my phone after I just turned it off basically. or left it alone pretty much the whole day and you come back and you got a bazillion, you know, you got a couple hundred text messages and then look at Instagram.

You started getting them from like tour players and all these guys. I'm like, you know, just boys of ours, but I'm like, damn, people are actually kind of paying attention. I'm walking up and down the range there at Southern Hills and Max pulls me. He's like, how's it stand? Dustin Johns was like,

dude, I heard Sleez is like making a run. Is that your DJ impression? That was good. I'll be honest. What else did he say? Tiger did not ask. Tiger wasn't into it? He was watching into it.

I'm a sly. But I mean, I'm doing the radio show live from the range there. Everyone's asking about it. We're doing updates throughout every single show. By the way, we haven't done a show together in like two weeks. We mean you. I mean, I mean, hey, Michael Collins, come join me once in a while. That'd be great, Drew.

But y'all, seriously, there was so much talk going around the PGA Championship about this run y'all are on. And then we get to the finals. And y'all are two up through two early. You're two up through eight again. I'm walking around during practice rounds. And I swear to God, every single group, somebody would ask me like, are they winning? What's going on? I'm like, dude, they're two up to eight.

They're like, holy shit, they're actually going to do this. Like, Slees is about to be even more unbearable. Oh, my God. That was the common theme. Slees was going to be even more unbearable. But it was really, really cool to see all these guys getting ready for a major championship talking about you two. It was nuts, dude. I mean, what was your phone looking like?

I mean, I was getting, it was like Max. All our close friends from here, obviously. But then I was like, guys, I don't talk to all that much. I think J.T. reached out, you know, talk to him once in a while. Ricky Fowler was sending messages and all this type of stuff. I was like, God, people are actually looking at this stuff right now. the media guy, that's when I started kind of knowing the USGA guy was like, this thing's getting like

a lot of traction right now. Dude, they're tagging me and shit saying all these things. I'm like, why are you bringing me into this? No, you're part of it, dude. That's the brand. That's the brand. God, it was great. The video y'all did before you went out for the finals. That was it like, you can't call me runner up anymore and all this. Now you're going to do it.

I'm still right. It was at like 5.30 in the morning, by the way, too, that interview. We were at 7.10. How was the body feeling going into the, the, the semi-finals and the finals after, you all played a lot of off than a 36 whole day for the two matches. Then you have to be up early for the semifinals and the finals. What was the body feeling like?

I can't speak for Kat. Not great. Not good. The feet were hurting. I had some blisters working, all that, all the stuff we mentioned. And just getting up that early and just running it back. When you look at how long those matches start taking it, the deeper you get, the more is like, are you calling your partner?

What do you see in this put? What club you like here? There's more like conversation around everything. The rounds were taking ever. Your last final match, I felt like, took seven hours. It was the slowest round in the history. of golf. There all of a sudden became this group text between all the West Brock members,

all these medley had a guy from Birmingham sending us videos of shots throughout the day. Also one, we need to talk to the USJ. Apparently they don't have bathrooms around Birmingham, country club of Birmingham because there's one of you pissing in the bushes looking over your shoulder while Kittleson sitting an iron shot. I mean, there is all kinds of stuff. But we're seriously,

all of us are like, this round has been going on for six hours and they're on 14. Like, what the hell's taking so long? It was the lowest round of golf ever played. Just full grind mode or what? And you're dragging ass. It got real windy in that afternoon, so it was playing tougher, bouncier.

Guys are hitting shitty. You're on your seventh round in five days. You're more nervous than you've been. The golf, like the golf course got harder, and it was just, and like I said, like, I said this going in the week. I was like, dude, let's not do the whole you read every putt I hit. I see that in the Ryder Cup all that. I think you're a great player. You're a great putter.

I never read any of your putt, so you make a lot of putt. You know, same for me. I never have anyone else read them. I put, I put pretty good. And then sure enough, like you get into it. And it's like, hey, what do you like? I like right. I know I like half a ball like well let's go look the others it's just a long ass well also I feel like too with in the morning because people would ask me they're like man like did you guys not play good in the afternoon even if we won or whatever but you know in those USA championship it's like you can get the you can get it until like 10 o'clock in the morning but by then all the all the do's gone and the wind picks up and everything just gets all crusty and like hard and it's just hard to hit when it's blowing 20 and the greens are super hard and then the

they're super fast you like colonial yesterday like you just can't hit it close enough yeah like to make birdies and so it just gets harder and then and then you never you don't chip it up to gimmies you chip it all every chip and put goes to like four feet so then you don't get any concessions and you're just like the grind just never stops if you miss fairways out there and that which was that was the most win we saw in that afternoon match like dude you couldn't it was like where can I miss where's the because you just couldn't hold it was just those lepers I mean cat was like pulling clubs he's like I think I can hit wedge like two 10 right now out of this lot because it was like just those fluffy ones but it's never coming down

and exactly for all those reasons like there's just no you're not just fairway stack either make birdie or miss it and conceded also it's like everyone's just grinding is like the the usj that weekend there i don't think because there's so much you do different things in that format right you like i'll have him go for it or i'll have him lay up on a par five and then so that way i can go and so like you play out of turn and just because of the strategy. A lot of strategy involved, yeah. Yeah, and like medley and wood,

they put, like, whoever's closest. If somebody's got, like, something inside five feet for birdie and the other guy's got 30 feet, they have the five-footer go first. And so, like, all of this random stuff out. That's probably why they didn't fucking win. Yeah. Because that's a terrible idea. That's what I said.

And they're like, and we do this. And him and are like, well, you've never won, so that doesn't work. Yeah. And just that walk dude around that golf course is like, it's your up hills and and then you're backwards, 70 yards to the teeth. Then you're gas and you sit there for a minute.

Like, I got to catch my breath. And then you, I mean, dude, there's a couple holes where, like, we all get back there. But like, can we just get a 20 second time out here? Like, it's everyone's just, it's just a haul around there. We had this guy we were playing. This kid was watching. And it was that guy who you, the lefty and the, yeah. And he paid this like seven-year-old kid because he had a push cart.

And he was like, hey, I got to go hit. I'll give you $5 or $10 or something if you just push this cart over there. Push it up. Like a spectator. Yeah, and then the poor kid ate shit. Oh, no, he was going up pushing it like this like up in front of him and it's a steep ass hill. That's what I'm talking about and his feet came out from underman and like literally Faced on the ground and then the club started dumping out on top of him so like me and the other dude were running like oh yeah, you're okay, but you know, you felt so and then he did it like he slipped again. I was like poor kidd you know How did you all go about the process of refilling your yeties? Are we going to like incriminate ourselves? No, is this self-incrimination? First off, it's no secret that y'all were boozing the whole time.

I ran into one of the guys that was there at the PGA. He was an official, I think, at the PGA that actually played in the four ball and came up to me and said he met y'all. And he's like, no one was having more fun. Everyone knew y'all were booze. So it's not as-cats out of the bag. And also, like, other players were like going into the grill and coming out with those like green country club at Birmingham Cups. Oh, yeah, the dudes we played stroke play with who we know are great dudes, by the way. Like, we had a rain, we got a lightning deal and they like came in and came in.

came out with like double tequila. I was like, now we're freaking golfing. Now we're golfing. But we had a little, we fill it up in the morning in the van. I mean, these things are diesel. These are big old Yetis or whatever. It's like two X plus that. It's big.

It's got like the handle on top. You know what I mean? We'd fill that up, have the biggest, I'd have the biggest super transfuge of all time. He's transfusion. And we'd fill a empty like Ozarka or whatever, water bottle with vodka. Throw that in the bags. It just looks like.

And then be like, right we'd hit on a hole they're walking up like yo we need a little little fresh you know little fresh but we didn't bring all the we didn't bring ginger ale and grape juice like you can't carry everything no so we had these like they're called biofuel they're like gatorade type deals or whatever so then that became like the mixer after that yeah you get done and or you get low like I need a I need a little I need a little dabble back it's not he's got in the big pocket you just make it happen all right to the finals because y'all got up to the nice start you're two up through two then it goes back to square you're two up through eight so ladies you didn't quite

have the energy or maybe your dober was down a little bit, but then you get to the eighth and you got a 40 footer for Bertie. And I heard what it was about 10 feet out, your first words of the day were, who did it hurt, cat? That's 100% right. It's a 300% back. Underground for three or four holes. We both, by the way, we got two up.

He made birdie on one, we win. I was only a par on two. We win, tie three. And then four, four, we both bogie apart five, both in the water, which I didn't know cats, falls in the water in our defense. Then we bogey against. We just gave them two with pars or whatever.

That's when I came to you. I was like, dude, I'm feeling like weird right now. Like I think I need to eat something or drink something. So I sat back on that tea and just pounded a bunch of water. I think I was dehydrated honestly from drinking. It's hot as shit. And all I'm doing is drink trans. You got no water.

You can't quite figure out. I can't quite figure out. I thought like a three-old stretch of just like blow it down there. Miss the green chip. Miss. Cat was holding this down with pars and all this stuff. And I was just pounding waters on every tea trying to get back leveled up. And then eight, finally, I scraped some trash iron up there to 40 feet or whatever, but I hit that pot.

And I was like, feeling bad, I was like, I got to do something. Like, my guy has cats on an island right now. And that's like cat's line. He likes to say, who would it hurt? Who would it hurt? It was like 10 feet out. It was deep out. It was way out.

It was not close. That pin was a tough ass pin too. So where they were all putting from, it's like, you could put it off the front. I mean, you put it on the fringe from there. And then finally that thing went in. I was like, no, we freaking go. I was feeling real good at that point. Like, all right, everything's.

We're back to feeling. The dirtiest half of all time on seven. Like the most ridiculous half. You were like. They were going one up for sure. I was like, I hit it in the trees, tried some. That's during the darkness stretch. And Kat blew it way over the green into the mulch.

Yeah. He was like one foot in the mulch ball below standing on his head. Bermuda light all slopes down away from. I was like, God damn. We're going to give him the third hole. We didn't make a bogey the whole week like as a team basically. We're one up there. We're going to make, we're going to give him three.

Yeah, we're one up. Sorry, we're going to go to even. I was going to give him three holes with paw. on the front nine of this thing. We made a bogey the entire week. And then cat hit this just ridiculous. The best shot of the week. I mean, that thing was disgusting.

The guys were playing with was like, yeah. And the guy was playing was like, I shouldn't do this. He's like a nice shot. Yeah. That was really nice. All right, you're one up with one to play. Okay. I mean, I know things are probably the heart rate's going up a little bit.

You know, have a very good chance to get this thing done. They clutch up. I mean, you got to get proff to the cap. They hit it to 8. By the way, it was sick. And like the pin there, it was downwind. It was super tough pin location. We talked about on the first tee.

We're like, we got to make them make tweet. Make them be a hero. That was the thing. I was like, dude, make them be a hero. Like if somebody clutches up and just a hard hole, it's like four, 50 or 60 or something like that. Make them be a hero. And damned if he didn't. Went in there eight feet.

I mean, because the other guy already missed. So it was down to this one put. Yeah. How much were you willing that thing out of the hole? I mean, dude, I was standing that. I was like, I was looking at Kat. Like he had just saw, seeing two putts on like a similar line. I was like he knows to read.

Like, it's inside left all day. But it's a put forever. There's a bunch of people around. It's the final hole. You got to make it to extend. I was like, I've seen a lot better players, miss a lot of shorter puts.

You know what I mean? Like, this thing ain't done. I don't care if you could say exactly where it's going. You still got to hit the put and he freaking rolled it right in the middle. That was a tip. That was just one of those things. Like, dude, that's props. Like, good job.

That's hard to do. And then we're going to extra holes and you go to the first. Was there any moment where y'all were like, hey, can we maybe pick another hole? I thought we were going to 18. I wanted to go to 18 so bad. You go to the first and you both missed the fairway, correct? Yeah.

I high out to the right. Kat hits it out to the right and from the T it looks like it's... You're dead. No shot. I was like, I was like, well, I'm for sure not going right because right's dead. Aiming down the left. Of course, double cross. Trying to hit a little bleeder, hit a pulley hook.

Way left. I'm like, it's fine. Left is fine all day, especially. And I think I was like, that might be so far left. I got no stress. Cat has to pitch out. I get down there. I got really no shot.

I got to go at the middle of the green and hope it can hold, which it didn't, went over. And they both gutted it down the fairway. I'm like, we're about to lose to another. We got to get up and, like, Cassidy, they're going to have to get up and down the fair way. You got way to get up and you for par. Yeah.

He had a good wedge in there. 10 feet. And I had the clip. You had a great chip. Chip. I got that in the water all day. I was about as close you're going to get. And I had an easy put.

I mean, neither of the puts were hard. No. Neither of them. And then you both end up missing. is it still known as the museum even though it didn't come through in the clutch? I mean it just closed it just it ends it closes at seven and I was like 705 by the time it hit that put it shuts down at seven to seven seven to seven is the only time it's open that's when the lose is closed down got you it closed down right there and by the way I found this

out this past week at colonial something there on the putting Zalotaurus comes up and so like talking about hey dude good run all this stuff he's like you lost to my money manager Chad the one that made the tweet on 18 manages will's money I was like well you were making a million bucks that freaking week shouldn't homeboy be in the office getting that to work for you what's he doing to take your time out you got to find a new guy man well that ended on tuesday yeah i know but he was in the process he was just start but he needs to be in there you know getting ready for the for the money don't sleep huge seven-digit deposits i know y'all wanted to win obviously that that was the goal but what was the feeling like when you knew it was all over

brutal devastating it was honestly it was devastating like because we it's not it's not it been easier to lose like five and four yeah you know then because we were up the whole time you never trailed until it was over yeah never trailed and uh you know there's a couple like that i i could have easily buried that par four that that semi-driable one um you know just what it's just i had a good look on 16 the one up over the you know where the pen was back over the hill i had a 12 foot or something like that could easily go in 17 i had a look did y'all know everything that come with if you won. Did you all know everything you get?

I did not know. No. So first I also reached out, Robbie Zoll's like I'm going to hate on you for a second. It was a big wig over at the USGA. I asked him going into the semis. I was like, hey, what happens if they win? And he's like, it's a 10 year exemption into the four balls. Like that's it.

No, I am nothing. He's like, no. We'll later come to find out of some research. You would have gotten into the US AM. You would also got into the US midam. Yeah. Which basically got one of y'all would have probably won one of those and gone on to Augusta National and all this.

I mean, valid. I mean, how much more did that hurt afterwards? You could have been in the AM, the mid-am, and all that. I had no clue about that. So afterwards, I think the award ceremony when they said that. I was like, damn. The AM is one thing. Like, am I going to fly to New Jersey to get not playing much golf to go get my head kick?

I'm some kid from Georgia. I don't know that I need that. Maybe I would do it. But the mid-am, I'm like, that's a real, like, I'd go, you know, I can go compete in that thing. The mid-ams, I mean, I actually have a bet with our good friend Jamie Stoittlitz on you winning the mid-am within the next five years. Yeah. That's a good bet.

I'd like to lever up on that too. The thing that hurt dude was that after the whole week is like, we lost to a pot. If they go 18 tip of the cap, that's a hell of a birdie dude. He had two great shots about as close to you. And then he makes the putt. What are you going to do? Great job to you. If they go and do that again on the first hole and stack it over and they probably played

a little safer because we were, you know, not hitting it close. Like you go get beat and they, and you lose to a birdie is one thing. Like, hey, good job. But when you just, we gave them. Both of us had two pots like that one of us should have made. One of us should have made. 100% like we they're good players you can't just give holes with with pars the winning you know win with parts that's what hurt is that we lost we both made bogey which until the championship match I'm not sure maybe we had one on the card the whole week like that we didn't make bogeys that was like our you know well the good news is you did finish runner up you got a silver medal you also get into the next three USGA four balls which I'll go ahead and tell you right now it's a key one next year so if you want to book your flights book your hotels or anything go ahead and go ahead and get that you stay at the stank It's beautiful.

Oh, that place is sick. It is so sick. Super nice. But seriously, guys, it was awesome to keep up with. Y'all were seriously the talk of the PJ Championship earlier in the week. It was a lot of fun to watch. Congrats on a great week. And thanks for sitting down with us.

We're coming. We're coming next year. We don't get. By the way, what did you do with your silver medal, dude? Yeah, so my silver medal, I have no idea where it is. Great. We lost the lid. I think we left them.

I think we left them when we were sitting up there, having a few with Stinger. And then we just walked out. And I was like, I'm too embarrassed to you. call. Hey guys. Did you happen to find two boxes with silver metal in it? As much as it pains me a little bit. I think we're gone.

As much as it pains me a little bit to give Slees a compliment. Like him walking around this place and with your guys' success of this podcast has been like, I mean, he's got, you guys have a lot of fans in the golf community. So if next year, next three years when we play this thing, if you come up and tell Slees that you're listener and you think that I'm rude to you, like, it's just because I don't want you to just keep sucking them off. It's okay, dude. Just don't, don't just stop.

No, don't stop that, dude. I appreciate it all. And we love every single person. I said, I've talked to tons of people down there. I love everybody. And also, like. Cat was super rude to him. Yeah, well, I'm just like, hey, hey, don't piss our fans off.

Yeah, dude. Just for the brand. You guys, like, it's a big, you guys have an incredible following. But also, and it's not, I don't, I'm not hating on any other golf podcast. But, like, I think sometimes how it's sold is that, like, he's, like, a washed up, like jickey jack player which he is that's because i said like that's like exact description i because some people have come to me and been like oh like slees just got on your back i'm sure and you made a hundred tweets i'm like no like he contributed and he's still to this day even though he doesn't

play like as much he's still a really good golfer and i think that gives a lot of credibility to your guys and show and stuff because he's not just some like guy that played for two years and now sells insurance and like never really had any game because he made he contributed more than I think people are giving credit for. I sell myself as the while. I will shit on my game more than anyone, and I'm fine with it. I'd rather do that than say, like, oh, yeah, I'm still a really good player or whatever. But like I said, when the lights come on, like, those were the lights.

There's no chance we make the finals without you playing like you did. There's no chance. Well, I expect y'all to be back there at Kiowa next year. Y'all should definitely win one of these at some point. You are a very talented team. And you can just, I mean, if it's going bad, just have Sli's start wearing them out verbally. I need to talk. That was one thing I said afterwards.

I used to talking shit and bullshit and all this stuff. I couldn't believe you didn't. Kitty hates even like, it was a handshake on the first tee and then don't even look at me. For every person he plays. Yep. And I'm more like, yo,

I want to chop. I feel like that's my thing. I like to talk to you. You know what I mean? Like the one match I did it with the one dudes that we four and three. I was like, yeah, I need to be,

I need to do that more. But I also don't want to like go against what kitty. Kitty wants to just basically like, I don't care. But I just go by myself. Yeah. I just like start walking. Like if somebody's around and I'm like,

hey, bud. Tell me about that. Tell me about your family tree. Well, guys, great runs. Slees. Respect, dude. Thanks for doing it. This was an honor and a privilege to be asked questions.

Get interviewed on your own show. I'm going to bring this back for you. We're going to just dig deep into the archives. I don't get anything anymore. So there's nothing you're going to interview me on. You get some sort of Shadow Creek four-man scramble coming up probably. We'll probably get in that. Congrats on the Shadow Creek member guests, runner-up.

Yeah. Runner-ups are monsters. Silver is the new gold. This is what a lot more is. It's debatable that you rather win the member guests at the Shadow Creek than when the USJ 4 ball, you get a lot, you get a lot of, you get a lot of coin. I'll take the Shadow Creek. Go ahead.

You go buy your way into some exemptions. All right, boys, it's been fun. Thanks for joining us. Love you, babe. Thanks, golf. Well, that was Sleez and the Cat here on golf subpar, devastating runner-up finish, but still a hell of a week. And I, I'm not fucking with y'all. Y'all, seriously were the talk of the PGA championship early in the week.

So many players coming up. It was an awesome story. Really, really cool to follow along. Chino. How devastated was Chino by there? The Argentinian. animal dude chino simi hit me on instagram just a few days ago you didn't with a picture of the flag no i have his text too but i was like it just came up on instagram and he's got like the picture of

flags like i can't believe we didn't get that thing done man i wanted this to be the trope you know i wanted this to be gold medal and all that sort of stuff i feel like we let them down and all the text messages from the players i mean just everybody's like coming back to my phone at night i can't imagine what these dudes go through when they win a golf tournament on the pjutor like we'll text them like hey dude want to hop on radio or podcast tomorrow i'm like do they have 700 because I was at 400 you know it was really cool to see the support that we're getting from a bunch of different people and honestly felt like at the end when we lost I was like kind of feel bad like you know what I mean it's like there's a lot of people a lot of people room for us but we

battled and all things considered you all been back three to you know we found out three days or whatever before we got in the field it wasn't a whole lot of prep going on there um I'm glad we get in the next three because I think hopefully one of these times um it clips and then you'll know it's coming. You can book your flights on time. You can arrive on time, maybe hit a bag of balls, maybe play a golf course or something, although I'm not big into those practice rounds anyways. Well, it was a hell of a run and a lot of fun to watch. I know y'all will be back and contending for that thing next year out at Kiowa.

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We got the NBA finals coming up. Stanley Cup hockey, which the hockey is absolutely incredible. And this week, we're on to the memorial, Jack's Place. First of all, we got to talk about how we got our heart ripped out. We both were heavy on Davis Riley last week as our dark horse going off around 48 to 1. I started getting exciting. I was texting producer Mark. I was like, because he took it.

I was like, you still got that buyout? What's that buyout out right now when he had the lead going into 13 and then all hell brokish. Dude, I was like fist bumping him on Thursday and Friday. It's like, no, no disrespect, but I'm a little bit root for Davis right now. This would really, if he continues to play like this, we're looking really good. So I have a little bit of a conflict of interest here. I'm root for you too, but if Davis plays well, and dude, Thursday, Friday, just rock solid. Just, it's common. I mean, it is definitely coming, but we say that with a lot of guys, but I was really impressed with this golf game. Well, in our first week of our head-to-head,

Fandul favorite bets of the week. I take the early 1-0 lead as Davis Riley, who is plus 126 over Tommy Fleetwood hit. Your Wyndham Clark top 40 for plus 290-ish, I believe. That was a nice clip to it. When I saw the 2-9, I was like, dude, we make the cut. We're top 40 in it, and like five holes left. It's like, all right, we're done. We're going to be right in the middle.

So you're down 100 to me through week one. Deal. Let's go. Here we go to the Memorial. We'll get our favorite bets out to you later this week. But very strong field, no surprise. some of the top players in the world are going to be there. It's one of the biggest non-majors of the year there at Muirfield Village.

I'm going to be there all week for Golf Channel and CBS. And listen, the favorite, he's a co-favorit. He had his heart ripped out here last year. I mean, this tournament was over. He had a six-shot lead. Probably playing the best golf ever in his life where I believe he was 18 under par through three rounds around this place, which I've played it. It is not that easy.

Six-shot lead at the time ends up getting disqualified for testing positive for COVID. John Rahm going off at a lot of. 11 to 1. I mean, how do you not love that? Hard not to hit that. And I was talking with a tour player this past week, and we got to talking about that rain. I was like, hey, you're playing next week.

And we got into talking about it. He's like, I think that's the best golf I've ever seen played on the PJ tour since I became a pro. And the guy's been out there for a good while. He's like, that was a joke, how hard that golf course was, what he was doing to it and that lead. And also he brought up a good point. It's like, that ended up changing the whole FedEx. Like that didn't just cost him his whatever the winning check is for this week, you know, 1.7, 1.7, whatever it was.

he's like can't lay wins that thing after that then take you know and it comes down to those two in the FedEx Cup player like and if he wins that it changed the whole thing he's like that might have cost him 17 million dollars it could that week which is crazy when you think about it he should sue coven he should absolutely somebody should write him a check for 17 right now who you go with is a favorite all right I'm going with a guy that I go with quite a bit but it just has to click one of these times yeah you know Cory Conters no that's more of a he's gone from like dark horse to like medium horse now so he's hard to pick because he's not a favorite but it's not like a long shot anymore i'm going with zander at 21 to one i mean he won

at the ziric fifth of the at t and t 13th at the pga was playing pretty solid i just feel like he's a lot like patrick cantley who obviously you know knows how to win around this golf course it's just a to be solid no weaknesses it's a hard golf course kind of plays you know i don't know how jack live is set up he doesn't like to see a whole lot of red digits being thrown around that place unless you're john rom last year but he actually made it's just got to happen on an individual at some point. Yeah, I'm interested to see about Patrick Cantlay this week. I mean, shot 11 over at the PJ Championship, which was shocking. I didn't think he was capable of shooting 11 over. He thrives around Mirfield Village. So it'll be interesting to see what he brings this week. Dark Horse, I'm going

with a guy that's very far. It's a very high. You know, I think Iron Play is key around Mirfield Village. You got to put it in the proper spots. Keegan Bradley, 65 to 1. Those are some nice odds. 65's a lot. That's like beyond Dark Corp. That's like midnight, midnight horse there. Yeah. He's playing some nice golf had a chance down there at TBC Potomac. I'm going to go with a similar to last week when we went with Davis Riley and ours. He's teetering in like long shot rain, but he's 35 to 1, a rook that I don't think is getting his just due this year. 35 to 1 is not a dark horse. Five top 5, 35 to 1.

I mean, that's pretty, I don't know me going around pretty long odds. I'll allow it. Five top fives on the year. All right. Third at RBC Heritage, second at Wells Fargo, third of the PJ Championship or his last three. Really good on tough track. Yeah. Exactly. Cameron Young.

Dude, I don't feel like he's getting enough pub for what he's done. And he smashes it. He said high. It was right there at the PGA till that little dub late in the game. He's the beast. And it's coming for him. That's the thing we keep saying like, oh, this guy will win. This guy will win.

There's so many of them. And you got all the established guys, too. There's just not that many events for these guys to win. All right. Well, get in on the action with tournament winners. Top five finishes, match betting and so much more. If you haven't tried Fandul, now is the time to give it a shot. Join with code subpar and turn a $5 bet into $200 in free bets win or lose exclusively on the Fandul Sportsbook app.

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All right. Well, done. Well, let's enjoy it. We're just two weeks away from the U.S. Open Sleeves. Time to get amongst and make sure you get your doers. Get ready for just another major right around the corner, and we'll talk to you on next week's Golf Subpar.