Subpar - ESPN's Greg McElroy talks working with Mark Blackburn on his game and how playing for Nick Saban helped his competitive mindset

Episode Date: October 21, 2025

On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar, Colt Knost and Drew Stoltz are joined by ESPN college football commentator Greg McElroy for an exclusive interview. The former Alabama quarterback talks what it was like playing under the legendary Coach Saban, his work with top instructor Mark Blackburn and a not so great BBQ experience at Jason Kokrak's house. --Bet with Fanatics Sportsbook and earn up to 10% FanCash back, win or lose. Millions are being given away this year, and you can use your FanCash across the entire Fanatics Universe. Download the app today. Fanatics Sportsbook. Winning hits different here.Must be 21+. GAMBLING PROBLEM? Call 1-800-GAMBLER, CT call [phone], MA call (800)-327-5050, NY call (877) 8-HOPENY, MD visit mdgamblinghelp.org  Not available in all states. Terms apply. See Fanatics Sportsbook app.--We’ve teamed up with Shady Rays to bring you an exclusive offer. Head to shadyrays.com and use code: SUBPAR for 35% OFF polarized sunglasses. Try for yourself the shades rated 5 stars by over 300,000 people.--Start your hair growth journey with Nutrafol.  For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to nutrafol.com and enter the code SUBPAR.--Choose your style, pick your favorite Birdie Juice logo and shop from a line-up of top tier brands at https://shop.golf.com/pages/storefront/golfsp today!

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Woo, sleighs. Not much golf going on in the world. But a lot of gambling. A lot of gambling. But Tommy Fleetwood did stay hot over in India. Winning over there. First time his son's been able to run out onto the 18th green, which I thought was really cool.

A little Frankie Fleetwood told him a couple weeks ago. He's like, you know, you've never won where I've been able to come out on the 18th Green. So Tommy said, I've been thinking about this for a while, had it written down, I think, in his yardage book and said, I'm going to make this happen. And damn it, he goes out there and does it. And here comes Frankie. How about the year he's had to go from just like heartbreak after heartbreak after

after heartbreak? Will you ever win on the BGA tour to all of a sudden? How about the last handful of months? Wins out there, Ryder Cup, for my money, best player that was out there that week. Goes over to India, does it again. And I think, like, as far as Europeans, it might be the most beloved non-American when he plays over here. Yeah. Everyone loves, I mean, how could you not like Thomas Fleetwood?

I mean, he's as good as they come in his golf game. It just feels like it's all kind of coming together right now. It's a shame he's got to wait so long before Augusta and major season right now because he is going. I mean, he's one of the best, kind of similar to how Victor Alvin was after the Rome Rider Cup. I was like, that's the best player in the world right now. Tommy may be it right at this very moment. He's up there. There's one other guy, but after him, he might be next up.

Pretty damn good. But congrats to Tommy on another win. Always rooting for him. One of the nicest guys in the business. Justin Leonard won on the PGA Tour Champions. Eagle in the last hole to beat Ernie Ells and Thomas Bjorn by one. But there was some golf talk going on this past week. Thanks to a little video that we put out.

Talking about how I applied for my ambitor status. You got a lot of people in your corner. Yeah. A lot of people pulling for you. Really a lot of nice people out there, by the way. The things people say is just absolutely ridiculous. They want you back and playing some AM stuff immediately. I think we just need to clear a few things up here because, look, it was a five-minute comment.

They got broken down into a little video. And I understand, like, part of the video you could see why you might think, like, I'm solely doing this out of spite and I'm doing it to try to win the META and playing the Masters. That is not the case. We were joking around. The whole thing, Dirt, we're joking how you and I might be matched up against each other in it one day. First off, could you imagine? I haven't even been given my amateur status back.

I don't even know how long it's going to be. I've not heard from the USGA. By the way, talks clicking. The talk's clicking. You might have CTE. The clock is ticking because I believe right now we're at like business day number eight. And they say they respond within six to ten. Yeah, it's coming.

It should come this week. Okay. And yeah, I think we do like, we did have a discussion about it. We even had some like off air. It's like the whole, the intent of this is not. And correct me if I'm wrong on any of this. Like, hey, I want to get my amateur sales. I'm going to play the midam.

I'm going to play all the USGA stuff and play every single term that matters. Like, do you want to play some rag tag pro scratches things, you know, maybe some fun mid-am tournaments that honestly don't affect 99.9% of the people like commenting and things like that. Just have fun. Like, I would be shocked if you ever, like, I'm signing up for the midam. Like, I don't think that's the intent or the goal. Like, in reality, this isn't going to affect like the competitive landscape of mid-am golf. I would hope not. Right?

Like, am I off on any of that? No, I mean, I enjoy playing pro-scratch. which forever I've been the pro. We have one at Whistbrock. There's a big one out in the desert at the plantation, which is a lot of fun. I am technically a pro. Playing in those events,

which, by the way, they're not cheap. Okay, the entry fees a decent amount of money. Odds are we're not going to make any of that money back. We're going to go have some cocktails and have a lot of fun, but it'd be nice to be the scratch person on that team and then go team up with one of the pros. It would never work scheduling-wise with what I do, but like the four-ball,

how much fun that is for y'all. That would be a blast to go playing. If the mid-am worked out and I was able to tee it up possibly in a qualifier and go do it, yeah, maybe one day I would do it. But that is not the mission behind this. Like I mean it when I say like the Walker Cup thing is a very important thing to me. It's the honor, the highest honor I've ever had in golf was represent the United States at the Walker Cup over in Ireland. It'd be cool as shit to one day possibly be the captain of one of those teams. I saw what it meant to Nathan Smith. I know what it's meant to buddy Marucci with him doing it. It would be really cool. I don't know if it's even possible if it ever happens, but I know being an amateur probably looks a lot better than being a professional,

which I was informed, though. I don't know if it's totally true. The G.B. and I captain is a professional golfer over there. They might run things a little different over there, but everyone needs to calm down a little bit on this. There's a lot of articles written without reaching out to me, which I thought was really unfair. They were just listening to looking at the comments, looking at the 90-second video we did, and writing an article based on that, and I just Didn't really think that was fair without them hearing from me first. I think we're just, everyone's putting the cart way before the horse here. It's like, A, it hasn't even happened yet.

B, we don't know what the time frame will be. And C, let's wait until someone gets their, like a longtime pro gets their amateur status back, starts entering all the USDA stuff, starts dominating midameter golf. And you can say right now, like, oh, look at the midam this past year. But there's different, like, levels to this. A guy that plays, you know, three, four years on the mini tours, works another job on the side to try to subsidize that. It's different than a guy like you who played eight years on the beach.

tour and then comes back. And for those reasons, they have different waiting periods on this whole thing. But it's like the outrage of, A, it's not like you're violating anything. The USDA is the one making all the decisions here. So if you got beef with somebody, it's probably like they're the ones to talk to about reinstatement. They could easily set some criteria. Like, if you play six years on the, five years on the PGA tour, full seasons, you're never going to play amateur golf game.

Okay. Like, at least there's a criteria for it. But right now, anyone can apply for it. And I just think like until like long time pros start just taking over midam golf, I don't know what all the outrageous is. But I mean, I am one of these guys that played mini tours for most of the time, right? And then I took, I got four years reinstatement. I haven't entered any individual USDA qualifier since I turned pro.

At the beginning, I was like, I don't even think it's worth it. You scared? I don't know if I care. At the beginning, it was honestly, people like can play the midam and midam. I was like, maybe and that would be fun. But like, is it, let's just say I got in. I was supposed to say, and I was better when I, you know, four years removed from playing pro golf. What if I did go win it?

I was like, is that worth like the backlash, I guess, for, you know, being playing pro and being reinstated? You get to play the master's, please. Winning it is, Masters would be fun and I would thrive. Let's be honest. I would thrive at Augusta. But anyways, like, it's different for everyone, but that was kind of my thought on it. And then I waited a handful more years before doing like the four ball and stuff. And now I'm a complete scrub.

Yeah, and you never know, like with this happening now and all the talk about it, maybe the USGA does come out with. the specific criteria. I have a feeling all those people that hated on me, aren't probably going to thank me for that. I mean, Sleece, some of these things have been said. Like, a lot of, a lot of people would lose a polo deal over this,

some of these comments they've made towards me. I've had people tell me, I should have to give back every dollar I've made in the game of golf in order to get my amateur status back. I'm like, cool, I don't have a house. I don't have a car. I don't have anything. Yeah, it'd be tough to eat.

That's the only job I've really had. You got, you're picking podcasts, though. Yeah. So it'll be fun. So, yeah, it sucks with all the negative stuff it's brought, but look, I don't know what's going to happen. I'm waiting here from the USGA. It's not like I'm quitting everything to focus on being a mid-am golfer.

Yeah, let's just tone down the outrage and the freak out here before something happens. It's kind of. It's wild. Like, yeah, we're, like I said, we're on the cart before the horse here. Let's the world we live in now, Sleys. That's the world we live in. Yeah. People just freak out over nothing.

I wouldn't be just over analyzing all the Twitter slash social media comments. Yeah. And basing my judgment on that. I also, a totally different subject because we're about to get to our gambling. I do laugh at some of the comments on our gambling, which is fair because most of the time, they're not real good. But sometimes. We're not afraid to lose some bets. But I saw a comment this past one when we put out, I believe it was our two NFL bets, by the way, which both won.

Shout out to us. We're NFL experts. This dude just writes horrible picks. I'm like, how the hell do you know? They even play the game yet. Go on that. Loser, loser for him if he shorted him, which I wouldn't blame him if he shorted us. I just love the hate.

I'm like, these could turn out to be great picks. None of us know. It's basically the whole point is to make it a coin flip. Yeah. It'd be like tails. Oh. Why would you ever pick tails? You're an idiot.

You're an idiot. By the way, self-suck, I went two and oh. I do a lot of losing and gambling on here, but I did have a college and an NFL winner. So suck on that, hater. You thought we were going to have another winner, but then we bet the other side. I thought we had Vandy over LSU. I think we talked about Vandy after that, but I forgot that we'd go on against LSU. I would have advised me.

I should have advised. it against that. Okay. They're real deal. Well, guess what? We're back again. And go download the Fanatic Sportsbook app,

follow along with us, see if we can get hot this week. Golf is back, luckily for that. The Bank of Utah championship out of Black Desert, the place looks incredible. Not the strongest feeling of the world.

It's a fall event. Michael Thorpe-Yarnson is your betting favorite. And this man is coming. I'm telling you right now, he played really well over in Japan, superstar amateur, dealt with some back injuries,

smashes it, got all the game. His time is coming. I'll say that, but we're going to try to make some money. Is that he got? No, not who I have. But he's the betting favorite. How often do we take the favorite?

I don't, yeah, never. That's why we never win. I can tell you, I am not taking the favorite this week. Okay, but it is a top 20 bet, and he's playing some good golf coming off a top 10 in his last PGA tour start. Heard he's been playing some nice golf back home, and you can get a plus 260 to top 20. Taylor Montgomery, come on down. Do something for me once in your life. Should be.

good golf course for him. Yes. Pretty wide, no trees, tough to get it out of play here. The only problem is it's like... Pudding, helpful. It's like Fairway and then Mars. And then dead. But it's a lot of grass.

From grass to grass, it is a lot. I actually really like that bet. I'm going to go with the guy just... I mean, we only saw, like Matt McCarty won last year, scoring was low, 23 under, but a lot of guys around that 20 under mark. So you got to make a lot of birdies. This is just a guy that I know can stack him up

and he's streaky, although he's become way more consistent. He's added a lot of link to his game, which is part of the reason why he's been, you know, so much better the last few years. But give me Stephen Yeager top 20, plus 220. Okay, so plus 220 and plus 260 in our golf bags. He can get hot and make a lot of birds when he gets going. That's a nice little payday there. Those would be nice. All right. Let's go over to the college football world where we didn't hit our parlay. Your bet did hit Georgia Tech money line, rambling wreck seven in the country. That was plus something. That was plus 135, I think. One 20.

back check plus money I know it's a lot closer than your max home top 20 plus 440 or whatever it was that was trickery on the app I just know that informed me if they're going to add a top 5 in there college look this team has been on an unbelievable run since they made the coaching switch

he's not the coach but he's getting all the love Jack New Heisle over at UCLA they've won four in a row and it's been an awesome story to see I mean they had nobody showing up at their games they stunk and they've just rattled off foreigner row. One of them gets Penn State. Pretty impressive win. But this week,

a little different program they're headed to. The number two ranked team in the country, the Indiana Hoosiers, and they're catching 25. It's not enough, my friend. I think the little Cinderella story is going to be over for a week, and I think Indiana is going to take

care of business at home. They are mean, that coach is awesome. Just got paid, by the way. 93 million. But again, 11 a year, something like that? Eight years and 93 million. Good job. Well, deserved. I mean, that program was a 0.0 factor in college football, and he got there two years now. They're top three in the country. He's been unbelievable higher. Then he got that massive contract right after James Franklin got fired from Penn State.

I think they said we got a real one. We're going to hang on right now. If you got one like that, although his buyouts probably monstrous if he ever starts to lay an egg. But I'm with, I don't know if they win by that many, but I think that this is a little different animal playing Indiana right now. All right, I'm going into the world of the ACC here. team that I took earlier this year that's 1 and 0 for us here on subpar. I'm going to take the Virginia Cavaliers giving 10 at UNC. Don't know if you've been following the UNC program. They have a famous coach.

They had a documentary that was supposed to come out that I think they've canceled. There was a nice little fun clip. Did you see Belichick with this girl on their show and how she was managing the whole thing? Yeah, and I don't think that audio was ever supposed to be heard. Nope. Somebody leaked that. Somebody's fired on that. But UNC two wins this year, Charlotte and Richmond.

Virginia, meanwhile. They're dealing 16th. Former frog at quarterback scoring a lot of points. I'll take them minus 10 all day. Richmond spiders, Fat Perez. That's true. I do love. Put some respect on their name.

I do put a little respect on my friends. A little Cinderella basketball story every now and then too. So you took? I got Virginia minus 10. All right, we throw in a three-team parlay in there? You got another one? I only wrote down one. No, but I have an NFL bet we can mix it.

I got another NFL. It's going to be hard to parlay that. We can give everyone the option. Arguably the biggest. Yes, that's actually a great idea. You take whichever side you want. put it with our two colleges. That'll be our three-team parlay.

But arguably the biggest game of the season. So far than the far. Not arguably. The Dallas Cowboys, the offensive powerhouse, Dallas Cowboys are heading out to Denver to Mile High Stadium. And we're rolling right now. 53-80.

Three games over 40 points. Only team in the NFL to do that so far. Problem is we can't really stop anybody. Giving up 44. Yeah, it's a little bit of a problem. But, man, this offense is fun to watch. They're catching three points out in, Denver. It's a big game.

Bowenegs coming off a damn miracle. You just ruined producer Mark's day. I took a nap. It was 19-0-0. I woke up and Broncos were winning. I was like, what the hell just happened? I gave him the points, which I'm fine with, to come out of there. I was about to turn it off 19-0. I was like, Jesus, we're going to get blanked against the giants.

Mark's right leg is moving a little slower today. Did you have to fill that wallet up a little bit? No, it's coming in via merch for a little shopping spree. Oh, I thought he gets money and merch. debatable. There'll be no money. There's no money. What a cheap ass. Oh, my guy. I was the bet. That was the bet. That's what he wanted. Okay. Anyways, you're going with your Broncos, obviously.

Of course. I mean, that was just, the fact that y'all had the ball five times in one quarter, I mean, day ball. Come on. We got to manage the clock a little better. Got to close. Got to close. It's hard up there. Bo is just laying in the weeds, waiting. I thought we were going to lose that. I thought the game was over four different times. like twice for each team. And it kept going. 33 points in the fourth, most ever from a team

to get blanked in the first three. That was like, there's been some good NFL games this year. That fourth quarter was as good as you'll ever see. Glad I slept through it. Yeah. Nice call on the nap.

I was actually just rooting because I thought the bet was if the Giants went out right, he gets the shopping spree. So therefore I was rooting for the Giants for once in my life. Oh yeah, you were. You were a Giants fan.

Hating on the Broncos. No, I love the Broncos. Coach Payton's my guy, but I wanted PM to get some nice shirts. What do you want to do for our bet? I think you should get him some nice shirts anyway. A guy in Pittsburgh's piercing his nips. Yeah, we're not doing that.

That would hurt. No numbing cream. No, no, that's raw. All right, so here's the deal with three-team parlay. You can take the Hoosiers, Virginia Cavaliers, and either the Dallas Cowboys or the Denver Broncos. Obviously, you know, I'm going with the Cowboys. He's going with the Broncos, but a big game.

We'll figure out a bet. One of those will win. We'll just do a fresh, just right here, since it's on the pod, just a fresh, easy little hundred bucks. Put it in the self-suck jar. currently has zero dollars of it because we never talk about ourselves no dude never what a waste of a juice a nice jar oh bad but okay hundred bucks i get three points bet there you have that all right well bet's a bet now it's time to get to our guest this week by the way he had to do a little something

for you yeah which was my idea by the way that's how selfless i am that i threw out that he should throw in sleeves so selfless in the broadcast but he was the number 20 did it twice number 20 on smartest athletes, according to sporting news, back in 2010. Smart guy. Recently also filmed with number 15, which will be a surprise. True. We're just knocking out smart dudes right now. That's what we do. Just a bunch of smart dudes sitting around talking ball.

That's it. All right, here's Greg McElroy on subpar. All right, our guest today is a certified knower of ball. He led the Alabama Crimson tied to an SEC and a national championship in 2009, before moving on to the NFL, and now he is everywhere. on ESPN as an analyst and a broadcaster, the great Greg McElroy, how we doing, brother?

Hey, boys, what's happening? Good to finally make this happen. I know, we've only been talking about it for two years. It's not like you have a lot going on. I mean, Slees is just absolutely hacking it up at courses, drinking transfusions. And I don't even know what to make of you right now, Colt. I honestly, I don't even like, like, busy man.

You know, I'm checking out these fall tournaments, taking a peak, and there's just no cult. Like, he's just, he won't do it. He only does elevated events broadcast now, I think. If I was doing the ball of events, I wouldn't be able to come take your money on the golf course. You know, this wallet right now is feeling pretty nice in this pocket after national golf links.

Greg. I'm glad you're more than one place. It was not enough to warrant buying more than two drinks in Scottsdale. So I think you might have gotten away with a couple of course lights, Miller lights, bottle blonde. That's about it because it wasn't that significant end of a beating, but it was unfortunate to know that a professional golfer gave an amateur that started to play in the game 10 years ago to a side.

Well, that is really, oh my God. Embarrassing. Well, I live and die. I just, I follow the guidelines what the USGA says. We typed it in the app and it said four shots. I'm sorry that you've been playing some really good golf. I'm busy working every single week, slaving away at my job, don't have time to practice. and also currently pro golfer soon to possibly be amateur golfer.

I think with how much money you made on tour, though, it should take at least three, four, five more years at least. It's like half your ESPN salary. 2032 at the earliest. I see cuts made. I see events started. Like, to me, I'm not buying it. I think it's all a bunch of load.

I've had this conversation with Tom Love Lady. I've had this conversation with Bobby Wyatt. I've had this conversation with all these guys that have since gotten there. amateur status back and you guys still know how to get the ball in the hole and you played for millions of dollars and now we as amateurs are supposed to go toe to toe like are you kidding me is that fair i literally a national hit the clubhouse on 18 and had to give you to a side like literally i mean honestly you don't give me to a side sir i gave you to a side get to a side i mean don't let the facts get the way of a story here i need to know how you hit the clubhouse was it's a second shot well you just can't be right on 18 um there's a lot of what we call water right on 18 and I was told keep it left. So I kept it left all right and got a hold of it unfortunately. Good news is I didn't quite make it all the way up to the clubhouse, but I did have the option to hit a 60 degree flop over the clubhouse and I decided not to do that. I just punched out and took my medicine. And of course, that's the one that Colt got me on.

He did have a belief in his gave it in a lob wedge over the corner of the clubhouse. He pitched straight sideways out. A lot of places you do that. National is one, and that's a dicey, that's a dicey roll of the dice there. 100%. That's not the place. All I know is I was not going to take that clubhouse into account. The thing was I would go out backwards

at the T-box with the three wood before I tried to take on that corner and hit a 60-yard flop after I bone two wedges off on three and five. You're a cerebral player, just like you were in football, you know? I actually, I'm glad you brought that up because I talked to your

swing coach. By the way, you have a swing coach, a world renowned swing coach, the best in the world. In the world. The last two years, Mark Blackburn, he said he was known as a cerebral quarterback, not so much as a golfer. Would you like to defend yourself there? I don't buy it. No, because he's 100% accurate. Like all of us that are amateurs, I think I can make every shot, which is stupid. Oh, I can get it over that. Oh, you know what? I got a window there. Like, I can get it through there. Like it's, to me as a football player, I knew what I couldn't, couldn't do. That's why I played as long as I could with as limited ability as I had. So I knew what I could get away with. I knew what to try what not to try. In golf, I'm willing to try anything, which is why I get myself

into some trouble. So for instance, like my natural ball flight is a little bit left to right. But I can say, oh, yeah, this hard dog leg left, I'll just draw it up over that tree. And needless say, I'll duck hook. it into the woods, have to punch out, probably hit the tree, kick it back, hitting four out of the fairway, and I've only advanced the ball 208 yards. Sounds amazing. Yeah, it happens. So, yeah, no, I'm not the, I'm not a cerebral player.

I have probably a little too much confidence. And frankly, I'm not so worried about making double because most of the time at that point in match play, like, who cares? Yeah, you pick up. You lost that hard, let's go in the next one. You're a gunslinger. Yeah. Are you a tinkerer?

Are you a ranger at always messing around with different stuff? No, no. I have tried a few things in my past. I will give things a whirl. So, for example, I went with those jimbo max grips for a bit and everyone was called me Bryson Jr. And that was when Bryson wasn't cool. So I felt like I was blazing a trail. I definitely am a little bit of a contrarian when it comes to golf. Like, for example, like if all my boys are rooting for U.S., I'll root for Europe. and rider cup why not oh that's treason why that is treason it's if it's if it's if it's opportunistic if they're always like all right 20 bucks all right done like deal whatever it is what are the odds you know but no i wouldn't say i'm a tinker so to speak i don't have enough time i have three kids i don't go to the range yeah i go straight to the tea and if i put that feels like i've done something before the round that's well done and you might be the first quarterback that i could think of that's It's not like one of these crazy analytical, mechanical, need to know everything about everything going on.

But you're 4.7, handicap currently, correct? Yeah, that sounds right. Yeah, 4-7. Where can Mark Blackburn get you to? Where do you expect him to get you to? And if it's scratch, let's say, if you don't get there, is that more of an indictment on you as a talent or is Mark as a teacher? Definitely me as a talent. as much as I'd love to put that on Blackburn's shoulders.

I don't think it be appropriate given the results that he's had the last few years and the amount of checks cashed by players he's working with directly. So while I'd love to say that in a member guest format, I'm pretty good player. Like I like where I'm at. I'm going to be a good hang. I like that. Colt knows and Sleez, we haven't played a lot. but like we're going to be able to hang we'll win the hang we might not win the tournament but we'll

win the hang i can promise you uh as an irishman like i'm going to bring it i'm going to give it my best shot but i'll say this um i do like have moments where i'm like i could be good and then i have a quick reminder where i pull hook something or i three putt or i put it off the green or whatever and i'm like i'm never going to be good so i've kind of at the point now or i'm probably as good as i'm ever going to be, even though I still in my mind, have aspirations of becoming a plus handicap at some point. I don't think I'll ever get there, but I'm too meatheaded. But at some point, I would like to make that goal of reality. I blame Mark if you don't get there. Wow. Personally, that's why when we first started working together. I mean, it was like, Greg, get your, you need to load the

club, Greg. Like, load it. Like, lay it off, like, flatten it off. And I'm like, I don't know what that means. Like, 45, like 46 degrees. Like, I'm like, I'm like, I. Mark, let me just swing hard. And he finally now has got to the point where he's like, this guy has no idea what he's doing. He's going to swing hard. He's going to be a meathead about it. And he's strong. So we'll figure it out.

And he's got decent speed. But he's probably not going to know where it's going to go. So when it comes to like club-based control, it's so overrated in my opinion. The sea ball hit ball, right? I mean, that's what it's all about. Be an athlete. I'm glad you brought a member guest because I want to get into the member guest situation here a little bit. one you mentioned the hang by the way yeah you're you are very good at it there was a one point where we

we might have offered a bartender to celebrate his birthday had been sober 28 years a shot at tequila no that wasn't on us one of us did and it wasn't me or me or me or me let's buy you shot for your birthday he's like I've been sober for 28 years he's like so do you want one so you want some drugs that's exactly how about some heroin that it was awesome We're going to take a break from Greg McElroy to ask you, if you're serious about your golf game, your vision on the course matters. That's where Shady Ray's golf collection comes in. They're designed specifically for golf with color-enhancing lens tech that helps you read greens sharper, track the ball faster, and spot breaks and contours you'd usually miss. They are lightweight, engineered for glare reduction, and have a comfort fit, so you stay dialed in even on long rounds.

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a tournament together we just never had the chance like he's been busy i've been busy he's doing golf i'm doing football so the only time it could happen to spring and there's not a lot of member guest opportunities where we live in the spring um so we finally made it happen we win our flight we played great we were so fired up well weather's coming in and we know it's summer in Alabama, it's going to be a little dicey. Weather's coming in. They say, you know, we're going to go to a chip-off. We decide to lay down a mat on Bluestone, a kitchen mat, not like a chipping mat,

not like a turf situation, nothing authentic. It was quite literally a kitchen mat on Bluestone with the green running away and a back-left pin. So it was honestly an impossible shot. Like we had former Walker cupers that didn't land it on the green. I mean, it didn't hold the green. I mean, he hit it into the fairway. And the guy started on two Walker Cups.

And he won the first flight naturally, and he always does. His partner is the golf coach at Houston. He didn't hold the green. And he carries like a plus three handicap. So we're sitting there like, this is ridiculous. How are we supposed to do this? I don't hold. Actually, I got it short because I was trying to hit it like into the rug.

and just hope it would trickle out and end up close to the green. The guy that won it hit a boned nine iron into a sprinkler head, popped it 20 feet up in the air, and it landed as soft as humanly possible and trickled to about seven inches. And it was one of the worst shots of the 14 that were hit. It was one of the 16 that were hit. It was probably the worst one as far as contact, and yet it was the winner.

So, yeah, that one was a little mad. Taylor and I are still claiming victory, but it's okay. Like we didn't get any art on the wall, but next year, it's on. You call it a bad shot. I call it a great imagination. Yeah, that's outside the box. It was creative.

I actually got a FaceTime from you all during that tournament. And I don't know where you stood in the tournament. I was like, you said you like to win the hang. You guys were winning the hang as far as I could tell. We were trying to. I think we talked on one hole that is the 15th hole. It's probably like a like a 560 yard par five. Taylor and I both sitting there like, yeah, we can go for it.

Like we had like 310 in. We got it. We didn't go for waiting for people on the green for like 15 minutes. We talked to you, Kisner, about four others, just in preparation for that one shot. I hit mine scalded rocket into the woods up right. And Taylor actually hit his close and three putted. So, yeah, it was a good time to be able to visit. Yeah, we were rolling.

They're on 15 for sure. Yeah, me and Kiz were actually at Duck City at the John Deere having a few. And I don't know who was having more fun, us or y'all, but it was a good one. Photo finish for sure. Kids had shot like 11 under and missed the cut. It's like what the heck happened. It played well. But for whatever reason, they went deep that weekend. Fun sport. You're in Birmingham. Some great golf courses you belong to down there, Country Club of Birmingham and Shull Creek.

Do you play at Shull Creek as well? Yes. Yeah, we play at Shull as well. Good lineup. Birmingham has like one of the best junior programs in the United States. Like some good talent comes out of there. A lot of good players and a lot of good golf. I think per capita, naturally, you know, Long Island,

Sea Island, like all these golf hubs, Pinehurst, Scottsdale. Like there's a lot of places with amazing golf, but for a city our size, the quality of the golf courses around our town are amazing. Shoals, an credible championship golf course, Birmingham West, where Slees is no longer allowed, at least for one more year.

And then the statue of limitations will run out. What did you do? Which, by the way, Cole, Watching your boy hit darts into like tucked pins with 17 transfusions in the system was one of the more remarkable feats of ball striking I've ever seen. He made Cory Connors look like he was hitting it off the hossel. That's how incredible your boy was. God bless you. That's the nicest thing anyone's ever said about me.

It was impressive. The seed that he could barely walk in the straight line while carrying his. bag and yet on plane as well as he did was pretty impressive uh it is a is a hidden talent for sure um so between birmingham west birmingham east shoal vestavia which is phenomenal in great shape old overton you got the robber trant jones all over the place uh hoover's a great spot we have so many in our neighborhood in our community that it's we are we are spoiled with good golf and a lot of great players come out of here as a result yeah there is a lot of good golf around there for except it's so damn human in the summer.

But by the way, did anyone get a reward? It's fine. If you're scared of a little sweat, you just let it out. A little sweat. Once I get my amateur status back, I might just come dominate the Robert Trent Jones Golf Trail. On a serious note,

did anybody get a reward for finding Sleez's silver medal at Country Club of Burb? Yeah. No, because if you haven't been paying attention, gold and silver prices are up 52% year over year. So I think it was actually liquidated and has since been, let's just say, repurposed. Okay. Repurposed. That's a nice way to put it.

Actually, we left it there. That's nice. It was gone. We talked about it. Nobody knew where it was. Like two years later, get a message like, hey, dude, I got your silver medals. Do you want them? So they found their way home.

We got them. Some very nice people down at Birmingham. I mean, some guy found his conference championship ring at a good, Will here in Scott's down. Now he's losing silver medals. I mean, this guy is unbelievable. I got too many awards, dude. It happens. I mean, but honestly, like, if you can get a good deal at a good at a quality pawn shop, like, why wouldn't you just, you know, take a college ring over there and maybe a silver medal from a USGA event? Like, I mean, goodness gracious, dude, you know what people would give to have one of those? And yet you just leave it around. It's funny to bury it on

the course somewhere. We got a little, we had a, we had a very nice evening at Birmingham. Some of the nicest people in the world, by the way. We enjoyed that place. Awesome joint. Awesome joint. Glad you guys had a great time. You're welcome back anytime. However, the next time that Colton and I play, I will be getting four aside to potentially five a side. That's fine. I'm not scared to you. If you were cerebral, I'd be scared of you. Don't want you have to worry about that, bud. Okay. I can promise that.

There's a lot of things that you need to be worried about, but being cerebral on the golf course is not one of them. I'm a complete headcase. Perfect. That's, I love you. Like even more. So we've been talking some golf.

I have no idea where this next question falls because it is from that crazy man, Mark Blackburn. I was going to read it to and see if you can help me. He said, so what? What's next is one, ask him about other two? Oh,

you're talking about Coach Sabin. So Coach Saban's whole mantra is, so what, what's next? And it's kind of amazing, like how much if you live, and I played for Coach Save for four years. And he essentially, his whole mentality when he approaches life is like, so what, what's next? Cool. We won a championship. So what, what's next? Awesome.

We brought him the number one recruiting class. So what, what's next? Oh, today was a great day in the fourth quarter program. So what, what's next? Like he lives by that mantra. And it's amazing like how it applies to us that have lived in that world for four years and how it becomes challenging as an adult where it's like, okay, we had a great career achievement.

Oh, we just had, you know, we just bought a house or whatever. Oh, we want this. Oh, we have this. Oh, we were desiring this or whatever. And you get what you want. And it's so what, what's next? And it's kind of amazing how it's like infiltrated my brain. and and it's it's it's awesome man having played for coach savin like that the number one

influence in my life is my dad but coach savin probably unintentionally would be second just because those four formative years with him were instrumental in like what i've become as a person so yeah the so what what next mentality is is great so as soon as we lost that member guest off the bluestone it was like all right we're disappointed so what's next so i like that it's good that's a good lesson. So Coach Saban is he a guy like after y'all win the national championship? He's not going to go on like a week-long bender like the rest of us? No. No. He actually yelled at us in the locker room post game because we were playing the Texas longhorns and we were up 24-3 at halftime. And we were in a great spot. I don't want to say we took our foot off the gas with the level of

intensity in the second half, not what it needed to be probably. So he was very adamant about like, hey guys, proud of y'all. You guys did a great job. But for those you coming back, like we got be better. Like we got to be better in the second half. We got to finish. You know, stuff like that. So, yeah, I mean, that's the way he operates. This is a guy, too, that when they implemented the 14th, the four-team playoff, it went from the national championship being played on, you know, January 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, to the national championship being played on the 11th, 12, 13th, 14th. And he was frustrated because that was seven less days he'd have on the recruiting trail that he would have had under the BCS format.

So that's just the way he, so what, like the national championship? Yeah, we'll win it or we'll be in it. Who cares? Like, what's next? Like, I got to recruit for next year. And you're getting it in the way with a dang national championship. So that's just the way he was wired, man.

That's so what, what's next? Yeah. Did you, when you were playing from him, could you have ever imagined a day where you'd say Nick Saban is a member of the sports media? Never in a million years. But the funny thing is, is even when you listen to him on TV, he'll still say things like you guys or y'all like when referring to people talking about the team.

Like y'all, y'all just think everything just happens. Y'all just think, y'all just think Alabama's going to roll up and get things done. Y'all just think, it's like, coach, you're one of us. Like you are us. Like, it's not, it's not y'all anymore. Like, you have to embrace the hat that is the media member. And I think some people can get away with that. Like, Colt, Smiley and those guys, like those that are still very, very close to.

it and not far removed from it. But once you have like fully embraced the media member role, it's, it just is what it is. Like you, you can dislike what the media does or what it stands for, the narratives that it creates, but you're part of it. So yeah, it's kind of funny how he still refuses to acknowledge that he's joined the, the dark side. Yeah, coach, you also need to wear your credentials at SEC Media Day nowadays. Okay.

You don't get no pass just because you're Nick's saving. You wear them credentials. You're media. Let's not get carried away. I think it'll be all right. at SEC Media Days. And frankly, if somebody stops Coach Saban because he's not wearing his credential,

I would love to see that interaction. Yeah. I think Coach would be just completely dumbfounded. I think he'd be like, I wouldn't know what to do. But it wouldn't surprise me. There are some people that are not super big sports fans that might not know who he is.

And that's happened since he's been on the guy out of the world. He's a beauty. And he's good at the media. Like, he's fun to watch with him and McAfee on game day. But I've only had one interaction with Coach Sabin. and it was thanks to Slees, I was actually caddying for Taylor Montgomery at the Phoenix Open one year, and he set it up where we were going to play the second nine of the pro-am with Coach Saban.

So it is a miserable day in Phoenix. Like it is, we get to the, they started on the back night, they get to one, we're joining them, get up there, introduce,

he's got his Alabama, straw hat on and everything. He's ready to rock in the range. It is monsooning out here. It is miserable. And we're just sitting there waiting to see if they're going to blow the horn. Taylor hit. They get ready to go hit.

and he's got his umbrella and he's just, you know, stone face. He goes, boys, I have a rule. I'll never quit a round of golf unless I'll be willing to cancel football practice. He said, football practice is over. He said, we're out of here. He's like, I ain't playing in this. Well, I'm surprised he led with that because I would think he'd be coordinating how many shots he was going to get. And I would think that knowing him, he drives a pretty hard bargain.

I would think he'd probably get an ample amount of shots from whoever. it was that he was playing against and he would proceed to absolutely dominate them. Yeah. Because he knows his game and while he's like a four, six, eight handicap, he knows where the ball's going and he'll hit that five iron as straight as an arrow and he'll run it up, bounce it on the front of the green, control the spin right to where it needs to be from a distance standpoint. So yeah, the fact that he said, I'm not playing in this says a lot because his competitive

character on the golf course man, it gets going. I also feel like there's a level of fear with Nick Savin, whether you, probably more so for you having played for him, where you're just like, you respect him so much and you know how how hard knows he is. Now that he's in the media and you are too, like he's a quote unquote contemporary now. Does that ever go away for a guy like you when you look at Nick's, can you ever talk to him like a normal guy and not a coach? No, like we're to me he's just he's just like my, he's my friend now, I guess, to an extent like in a weird way. Um, there's still naturally a built in level of respect and appreciation and all those things. But no, I don't, I don't

really fear him anymore. I was very scared of him early in my career and then was very scared of him probably up until we won the national championship. And at that point, it's like, okay, he's going to like me now. I think we're good. So I think that fear lifted in 2010 and that was better. And like, I played freer and he was great. But no, the fear went away probably 15, 16 years ago. now he's just, you know, my coach and I'm grateful for him. But it's like my dad, like when I was growing up, like I was scared to death of my dad, like everything. Like, oh, I'm going to tell your dad. My mom would tell me that all the time.

Like, oh, don't let dad get the belt, you know, stuff like that. But now, like, my dad's my best friend, you know? So it's like, yeah, there's a certain respect naturally and admiration, but fear is probably not the right word. Go back to your Bama days, though. Was there a time when you were playing where you, the most scared you've ever been? to have to go into coach's office, or you coming off the field, I haven't done something stupid.

Is there one moment that stands out where you're like, oh my God, this is going to be miserable? Yeah, there's about eight. One in particular stands out pretty good. We're playing against LSU, and it's in 2009. And we call it play.

It's like a little sprint right. It's pretty simple play. Nothing too significant. Julio's on a comeback, and we have a deep corner on the inside. In that play, we might have actually tagged it with another comeback. So it's basically like two comebacks. I'm rolling to the right.

Pretty simple. It's basically Julio, outside in, and you're good. Well, I liked Julio. And then his Patrick Peterson was covering him, Patrick Peterson kind of dropped back. So I had Julio, but Peterson was just close enough to where I was like, yeah, I'll get off it. So I look inside to either Marquis,

mazies, or Darius, Hanks, I don't recall exactly who was in the slot. I look inside, I don't like it, get back out to Julio, and Peterson had actually retreated a little bit more, so I try to cut it on the sideline. And Peterson plays it perfectly. I mean, the guy's like a fringe Hall of Fame

where he might get in. I don't know if he will or not. But he played it perfectly and, like, jumped it. And picked it off, but thank God, like his toes were out of bounds. I mean, so, and LSU fans still to this day are convinced that he picked that mole off. Now, frankly, would it have made a difference?

Probably not because the LSU offense at that point was not a whole lot to be afraid of. So it might not have made a huge difference, but long story short, they were reviewing the play. And I remember vividly being on the sideline and having him just staring at me and not saying a word. Like not a word. to the point where it was like the anger in his eyes said all that needed to be said. And I'm sitting there as the replay is being reviewed. And I am like, please God. Please God rule this incomplete.

And it took, it had to have taken, it felt like it took two hours. And coach wouldn't say a word. I mean, he just would, arms crossed, staring at me with fire in his eyes. And I'm sitting there like, please, please. because if this thing's picked, he is going to destroy me. I mean, absolutely wear me out. Like, he is right in my face preparing for the referee to come over the headset and say, the call on the field is overturned at first and 10 LSU.

And I'm going to hear about it. And I knew I was about 18 yards to the bench from that point. And he was going to follow me for 18 yards all the way to the bench where I was going to set my helmet down and then sit down and take an absolute ear lashing. So, yes, that was one that was really bad. Lucky for me, it was ruled incomplete. And coach turned around and didn't say a word after that. But he was ready.

It was about to go, and it would not have been fun had Patrick Peterson actually secured that one in bounds. Yeah, the silence can be worse than the yelling. It's like when you mess up as a kid and you get in the car and your dad just drives. It doesn't say it. Oh, my God. Say something. So much work. Yeah, just chew my ass out, do anything.

The silence is killing me. I'm sorry. he'll never do it again. Well, it's for the anticipation of what's coming because you know it's coming. Like, you're going to either get it tonight on the sideline or you're going to get tomorrow in the film room. And I probably got it the next day in the film room, but thank God it wasn't that bad. But you know it's coming.

So the fear of what's coming is often worse than the actual receiving of what you're getting. So you're right. Like the fear is the worst, the absolute worst. Yeah. Before we get back to Greg McElroy, a quick message from our friends at Nutraful. You've probably seen a million ads for hair growth products and thought, sure, like that actually works. I did too, until I found out that Nutrafol isn't like the rest of them.

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To me, everybody thinks it's, oh, gosh, that guy is 360 pounds. Did that hurt? Like, no. Like, not at all. I was 2.30. And, you know, so I weighed almost as much as Colt. Um, shot up tired. What?

What? Yeah, you've got almost. You're not. I'm just giving, I'm just giving people like a commonality, like a perspective. So like you can get hit by somebody that's 350 pounds and it doesn't hurt. I don't know why. But the blunt force trauma of that hit is not that significant. The guys that hurt are the guys that are running 4-4 and they weigh 225.

Like, just the collision is more violent. So it's always a safety. And there were two in particular that were absolutely terrible. One was against Tennessee in 2009. We are playing against Lane Kiffin. He was the head coach of Tennessee. Monty Kiffin was a defense coordinator. He has never brought strong safety blitz ever.

Like the whole year in his time back in college, like he had never been a strong safety pressure guy. Like he was a linebacker pressure guy or he was an off the ball outside the edges saw cover zero anyways we get ready to take the first nap of the game and the headsets go down Tennessee says the headsets go down I don't know if they did or not but it was a way of kind of manipulating our comfort level so all of a sudden my OC Jim McAway ends up in the booth and I have to call my own place the guy that's actually signaling in the plays believe it or not was Kurt Signetti Kurt Signetti is now the head coach Indiana yeah so he was our signal guy so he's

signaling him in he goes you got it you know you know it's not you know it's not know it. You got it. You got it. Stick with the plan. Like all that stuff. So I'm calling the first three plays with no communication with ROC, nor with the sideline. Anyways, we're sitting there and all of a sudden on third down, it's like third and six or seven. They decide to bring Eric Berry, who is like all-American stud. He blitzes off the, left he's unaccounted for i'm like they've never brought it why would i protect why would i put the offensive line of the running back on the safety like they're not bringing them he's walked down but like we're good so we're clear i'm not even thinking about him and he hits me as i'm getting ready to release

the ball like on the left side as hard as you possible at about 15 yard head starts full sprint right into my rib cage that was one uh in call in the nfl we're playing against the san diego chargers now the los angeles chargers and eric wettel you all remember Eric Weddell? Yeah. I mean, Eric Wetter was like sawed off six foot, 220 pounds, and just physical, like just a super physical safety. Well, we have a play called like the protections 50.

That's the, that's the protection. And our running back, Malal Powell, you're supposed to read Mike, too strong safety in this protection. I know I'm covered. Like I got both. It's basically an eight man protection. Like I have tons of help. And well, Balal looks at the mic.

never sees the strong safety come. It's on dropping back, like thinking I'm good, no problem. I throw a little comeback to the field to the left hand side. And all of a sudden, I get killed. I'm like, what was that? And Balal helps me up. It goes, my bad, bro. Like, all of a sudden, I see one walking away.

I'm like, oh, my God. And if you see the violence on that hit in the actual game itself, it was like, wow. So that was what, week 16 in the 2012 season. So it was about, I don't know, eight degrees. And in eight degree weather in New York, it hurts a little more. So that one hurt. And it kind of took my breath away for a few plays for sure. Yeah, I think everyone obviously knows it's violent.

You get hit hard. But like since they came out, Netflix did the quarterback series where the quarterbacks are miced up and you can hear the contact and then you can hear the noise like Kirk Cousins is making as he's getting hit. It's terrifying. Yeah. Put it this way. Like if my kids choose not to play football, I will.

not be upset. Yeah, exactly. If they choose to play football, we'll totally support them 100%. But if they decide to go in a slightly different direction, we will, without question, support that decision because it's violent. And I'd be lying if my body doesn't hurt a little bit when I wake up on some days, for sure. I mean, I broke my ribs in the SEC championship game. The hit wasn't super violent, but it was more just the way I got hit. So it was like Brandon spikes on one side, a defense then on the other, both at the same time just hit me. So I broke the ninth and tenth on the left side. I had to play the whole fourth quarter with broken ribs.

They hurt. I didn't know about it. But I was definitely in some pain. And then went through the entire prep plan preparing for the national championship. Bone stimulator, calcium pills, like you wouldn't believe the preparation, just try to get my ribs feeling good. And I'm telling you, it's not three plays into the game, Sergio Kindle for the Texas Longhorns, breaks him again. I'm like, oh, my God. All right, there goes. That's six weeks of work trying to get back right.

But, yeah, football's a violent game, man, but it's the best. Like, that's kind of what makes it so great. You've got to be a little psycho to play it. But part of what makes it fun is that your life is kind of on the line, every play, so to speak, and the danger of it is kind of what makes it appealing. Yeah, I remember that when you have those ribs and you gutted it out, ended up winning that national championship. And that just speaks like, I think, like the expectations at Alabama.

curious. When it's win or bust, national championships are kind of like the bar. When you're the starting quarterback, the face of the program, you go out and lose, call it to Iron Bowl, which I think you were, you know, we won, one, lost one. And that what's it like going back to class on Monday? Look at Captain Prep here, by the way. Like, what do we got?

I mean, just dialed in. Yeah, lot of day. Cam Newton. Fumble? Yeah, yeah, we lost to Cam Newton. Thanks for bringing it up. So losing as an undergrad would have been a lot tougher because you actually, like, that was the day. Like, we would literally walk into class with 300 other students and you're sitting in marketing 300 and they're like, well, you know, but lucky. Yeah.

Right? Everybody is like, they were booing you at the game. and now you're sitting next to them and you're working together on a project in GBA 490. It's like, this is strange. But it also, like, that's kind of why you go to a place where they care. I mean, to me, that was what made it appealing. Like, coming from Texas and growing up in Dallas, Fort Worth and playing at a place like South Lake Carroll, which is where I went to high school, like, the expectations were outrageous. And, like, for example, we lost one game in four years in my high school career.

And that was by one in the state championship. So, like, I wanted to go somewhere where the expectations were high and that if they, like, they expect you to win and they care as much about it as you do as a player. So that's what made Alabama so appealing to me. I'm sure it was similar for you, Colt, when you watched the Mustangs when you were in school. So many shots. You're really angry about the 60 bucks you lost. I just saying it was. Yeah, just comparing it.

Yeah. I'm just saying it was similar. I'm not saying it. I'm just trying to draw like a comparison. Like you and I are, you know, we're just similar. Anyway, in our call.

Anyways, like removing that. But yeah, you heard about it. The 100%. Absolutely. And like if you played poorly, like people would talk smack to you.

100%. All the way of class, on the way home class. Most people were pretty nice and encouraging. And your friends, of course, outside the football team were supportive. But yeah,

I mean, you heard about it. it. Like my parents heard about it. Like my my my girlfriend heard about it like they oh yeah they heard the whispers for sure at least social media wasn't as big as it is nowadays back then yeah they'd have been reasonable it's just the word you've been uh not a good that would have been really bad you're no social media right and i would not have enjoyed my experience as much i don't think for sure i don't know how they do it you're anti all social now basically anti all social yeah yeah smart man That's why you're all smiling.

Have them, but don't use it. That's why I scored so high on that wonder lick. Oh, by the way. One of the highest of all time, by the way. Explain this to me. Except Fitz. How did they think you scored 48, but then all of a sudden it was actually a 43? Yeah, that's a good question.

Well, I don't actually know the answer to that. So they never tell you your score. I actually came out of it thinking I got a 50, because the questions are actually pretty easy. It's really more about can you finish the test? And I was able to finish. And I probably made a little mistake here or there. So slowly I'll ask you one of the questions.

All right, what is the smallest number? All right. 1.7.1.17.071 or 17. 0.071. 1 for 1. It's not a hard question. How'd Vince Young mess this up? Like if you had unlimited time, we'd all get 50.

It's not, they're not difficult questions. But it's the fact that you have to take all 50 questions in 12 minutes. So every question's about 15 seconds. And they're a little bit tricky like that where, okay, hang on, wait, just and you've got to go fast. And if you don't finish, then that's the amount of scores you got. So I finished and I must have missed a detail on one or two. and that's what led to the 48. And I don't know if it was a 43 or 48.

I really don't know. But I thought I nailed it. And I was pretty pumped because I don't think anyone had ever gotten a 50 or maybe no position player had ever gotten to 50. I think there might have been a punter or something. But that doesn't count. No count. So I was pretty pumped. I was like, I think I got it.

I think I did it. And the funny thing is I did have a guy sitting next to me. I won't say who it was. That was like, hey, bro, I hope you did well. I was looking at you the whole time. I was like, bro. Oh, my God. I had like version 4 and you had version 17.

Oh, no. It's a different scantrons. But he ran up to disaster. Everything's fine. 100%. I was like, I don't know what you got, but I'm sorry. But if you were copying off me, you probably didn't do very well. I apologize for that.

You know what I took from that? We'd be great quarterbacks. Yes. I think it goes without saying. We joked with Ryan Fitzpatrick out of Tahoe that he has the same number of kids as Vince Young had Wonderlick. points. Wait, so what did Vince Young get? An eight. It's supposedly the lowest. Yeah. I don't care. Yeah. I didn't know that. But I don't know exactly like they don't tell you exactly what you got. Now, I did have a, I did have one of the, one of the teams contact me as like, all right, so you got 48. And I'm like, are you going to be open to coaching? Like they think that that's like, if you score too high. Yeah, too smart. That's bad for you. Yeah. Right.

I just came from Alabama. Like, yeah, you know what? I'm totally adverse to coaching. I don't like constructive criticism. Like, what kind of question is that? But yeah, I think that that's like a negative. So you need to score like in the 30s. That's the ideal spot because then you're coachable and also at the same time.

You're not limited from a processing standpoint. When you were ranked the 20th smartest athlete by sporting news, you're not going to get in the 30s. 20 smartest athlete. I don't know how they quantify that, but that's the nice list. I want to know the 19 ahead of you. Yeah. Well, I don't think I would have been in the mix.

I would imagine there's probably at least, at least a thousand people playing sports at a high level that are much smarter than me. I mean, I'm a broadcaster for crying out loud. Like, it's not like I'm not curing cancer by any stretch. I mean, there's a lot of former athletes that are. So I think those people would take the cake.

If Gary Woodland's not on the list, it's a bullshit list. I agree that. We're going to take a break from Greg Macroy to let you know. With the holidays coming up, it's the perfect time to upgrade your golf gear. I just made some Birdie Juice T-shirts, and they turned out perfect. Great for gifting or keeping for yourself. Head to shop.golf.com and design your custom look today. Now back to Greg McElroy.

You mentioned, obviously, broadcasting. We watch you every Saturday night with Sean McDonough. Is that something you were always interested in as a kid growing up, Or is this just something like, hey, my football career is over? What's next? Yeah, so what, what's next? No, it was kind of a weird story. It's like, for me, it was very much like a God thing.

Like, this is what I was supposed to do. And I don't know, I don't know really like how else to describe it. Because I had no interest in it. I was going to go to law school when I got done playing. I wanted to play in the NFL. And then after law school, I'd figure it out. That was my plan. So after

So it kind of took like a series of unfortunate events for me to end up where I ended up. So that's why I say it's a God thing. We're playing against Cam Newton in the Iron Bowl and we lose the game in kind of a remarkable way. It's called the cam back. It's notorious like we were up 24 nothing and lost the game. A cam was amazing.

It played incredible and then we didn't deserve to win. Like we didn't make enough plays. So long story short, we lose that game in heartbreaking fashion. That was devastation number one. Number two, we're two weeks later in New York for the academic Heisman. It's called the William B. Campbell Award. And I thought I was going to win it.

I was a Rhodes Scholar finalist. I had a 4-0 GPA. I'd worked five years so that I could maybe have a chance to win that award. Like that to me was, that was like my dream to win that award. What a nerve. I knew I'd never be in the running for like the highsman. But man, I might be able to win the academic heisman. So I like went all in on that.

And I didn't get it. I finished behind Sam Acho, who is also a colleague of ours at ESPN, who's just a phenomenal guy. And like he was deserving and he was awesome. And I was really happy for him. And now like becoming his friend, like I'm glad I'm glad he won it because I opened this door for me. So disappointment number two. in my frustration for having not won the academic heism, in my disappointment, I went to the bar like any good Irish kid would do.

I went straight to the bar and started to drown my sorrows. And for those who are like, you're in college. Why are you at the bar? I was like, I was 22. So I was of age. And we also had a room that you could go and have some drinks in. So I went to the bar, at the bar. Kerr, Curb Street, Chris Fowler, and a guy named Lee Fitting.

Lee Fitting was the producer of Game Day. So I'm frustrated. I'm drinking some beers. They're there too, having some drinks as well. All of a sudden, we start to hit it off. Hey, good season. Has everything going? We talked about the Auburn game. And I was kind of explaining them like what went down to the Auburn.

That was really interesting. You want to come out and talk about Auburn, who's playing in the national championship in a couple weeks in Scottsdale? You want to come in and maybe be like a guest analyst for us? I said, yeah, I'm training in California. I could swing over for a day and stay at the Phoenician and, you know, play around to golf and maybe talk with you guys about what's going on in the national championship. So ended up doing that.

It went really well. And they said, that was great. Do you have any interest in maybe just not doing the NFL and coming to work for us? I said, no, I've got to do the NFL. Man, it's like a lifelong dream to go play in the league and we'll see what happens. So I get drafted by the Jets. I'm going through training camp and I got a real shot to be the number two.

Mark Brunel was the number two. Sanchez was the number one. Brunel was the number two. And Brunel had been hurt pretty much all camp. I'd played really well in camp. And I end up in what was lucky now looking back on it. I dislocate my thumb and it was a bad one. Week four, the preseason.

I had one series left before I was getting pulled and I was good to go. And I might be the backup, might be three, whatever it was. I dislocate my thumb. I are 15 weeks rookie season done. Disappointed, but it was what it was. Well, I missed out on that whole season of practice. The following spring, that was disappointment number three, by the way, the dislocated thumb. That following spring, because I didn't get to practice at all, they didn't really know what they had in me.

They decided to go out and sign Tim Tebow. So Tim Tebow comes in. I'm now relegated to the number three spot because Tim Tebow has to be the two, because they brought him in from Denver and he had had a great year the year before. So I make the team, all that stuff, and Mark gets off to a bit of a shaky start. He gets benched against Arizona. I come off the bench. I play well. And a couple weeks later, I get named the starting quarterback the week after we lose to the Titans on Monday Night Football. In my first start, I get a concussion in probably the first half of the football game and don't even remember the second half. So that was

disappointment number four. And I wasn't going to say anything about it because I'm like, this is my shot. Like, I have to, I have to play. And we're watching tape on Monday of practice and the snow is falling sideways and rewind. Snow is falling sideways rewind. And I threw up in the meeting room because my concussion symptoms were so significant. So I was out for week 17 against the bills and that would have been my second start. That was disappointment number four. four is my first opportunity to play. I get a concussion within, I don't know, the first 20 plays of my starting career. And then disappointment number five, the following year, I'm competing to be the backup again. And it's Gino Smith and Mark Sanchez. Sanchez was hurt. I'm in a good spot. I tear my

PCL in the first preseason game. Can't do anything after that. So at that point, three years, three injuries. I'm starting to think, all right, man, there's a lot of mortality here. How long is this going to go? I got my pension. Like, this might be time to just shut it down. Well, ESPN, it's They didn't contact the whole time and they were launching the SEC network. I end up saying, all right, I'll engage with y'all, probably done with the NFL. I'm still on contract, but probably done with the NFL. So I'll engage. And ultimately, because I was still under contract with the Bengals, ESPN, I was able to create a little leverage.

And I ended up being part of the launch of the SEC network, which became the greatest launch in the history of cable sports. And now since that point, that was 12 years ago, I've just. ridden it up the latter. So it's like five horrible things in my life had to happen to me in my eyes at that time for me to be open to engaging with ESPN to be a part of what became a remarkably successful launch. And has now, you know, leapfrogged me into a really good career that I'm really fulfilled by. So it's kind of crazy how it all happened. But no, to answer your question, I know it's a long answer, but it's an interesting story to get them. Yeah. That's cool. I didn't know about the like meeting them up for a drink, all the game day guys.

And that's how kind of the first leg of like speaking about football. Like that was it, just by chance. That's cool. Just lucky. I mean, if they're not at the bar or if I win the academic Heisman, I don't go to the bar because I have media responsibilities. So I win the academic Heisman. I have media responsibilities. I'm not at the bar to engage with the game day guys who ultimately invited me to get into broadcasting.

So it's kind of insane when you think about it. Yeah. Suck on that, Sam, Acho. If you were just a little bit bigger of a nerd, you know, you would have won that Heisman. Just a huge. That would have been. it, you know, because I have really been shorting on my nerdiness. That's always been a, it's always been a flaw.

Right. Don't downplay it, dude. Lean into it a little more. Should we get to the E9 here, Slees? Yeah, let's go E9. All right, I'm ready for it. I'm going to let you pick the first question this time. We kind of rotate.

Yeah, we can ask them both. Give me, our movies being made about you, who do you want to play you as the actor? And then also give me your childhood crush. Childhood crush. Like when you were a child, not like someone that's in their childhood now. Yeah, don't pick a kid right now. He was super well. Yeah, that'd be super well.

I appreciate that. Oh, all right. So if I were to have a movie being played on me now, I always like Vince Vaughn. He's a little old now, a little long in the tooth. But Vince Vaughn would have been probably my favorite, my favorite character. I just feel like we would have gotten along real well. I don't know why. Like he's dry and I'm dry and sense of humor, I feel like would have been a line.

So maybe like Rudy Vince Vaughn, he could have been me, I guess. you know, that early Vince Vaughn guy, so to speak. So he would have been number one for me. Good one. The easy to say Brad Pitt, you know, just because it looks. Obviously, but that's a layup. He's taken by our previous 400 guests. Yeah, he's taken, he's tied up making 400 biographies right now for everyone else we've had.

Yeah. Well, yeah, that's fine. They can have them. Childhood crush, pretty easy. I had a few, seasonal. but I was, you know, of age when Jessica Simpson was rock and basic Dukes. Yeah, she had a run. That would have been one big fan of that movie.

Great movie. Sean William Scott. I don't remember who else was in it. Doesn't matter. That's it. That's the list. Yeah. Yeah, pretty much it.

Something climbed up in her undercarriage. In back in 2002, but it'd have probably been number one. Yeah. Followed closely, though, by Jessica Beale. It was a big Jessica Beale fan. Summer Catch was a good movie. Really good, really good flick with Freddie Prince Jr., you love that with Sleez.

It's a great one. I saw that buddy. Preacher to the choir. Seen it. She did nice work in that film. Timberlake is so lucky. Yeah, we're going to make sure he doesn't hear this. We're going to have to tell him skip this week.

He's an avid listener, by the way. Is he? Well, I assume so. If he wanted to play me, I love Justin Timberlake. Like he's one of my, I had a younger sister. and like she was obsessed with NSYNC and Backstreet Boys. And of course, as the cool older brother would never admit that I enjoyed the boy bands myself. Right.

But I'd be lying if, you know, bye, bye, doesn't occasionally come on when I'm round of the turn on 13. Of course, you know, if I comes on and I got to break out a little dance move, like I can do it, you know? I like this. Zimmerlakes the man. Are you kidding me? I like this. Yeah, girls seem to like him a little bit. Golf games, solid too.

He's good at everything. thing. It's noxious. Yeah, it really is. All right. First one for me, who had the shorter fuse? Nick Sabin or Rex Ryan? Oh, Nick Saban, for sure.

God, I thought Rex would lose it. Rex's fuse. Rex's fuse was, I don't want to say for show, but it was definitely a little bit more, like when the camera was on, that's when the fuse would break. Okay. I like him on TV, man.

He's entertaining. He's great. Rex, by the way, is the best. Like, I love Rex. I had a great experience playing for him. Like, he was awesome. You guys would love playing for Rex. He was so much fun.

Yeah, I feel like all players like him. Like a Bruce Ariens type. They all just rave about him. He used to always do a, like, guest field goal kicker on Friday practice. So, like, he just made it fun, like little things like that. So, like, guest field goal kicker, and you bet, like, you'd find a guy and you'd bet $20 or whatever, where you're per diem. You'd bet your per diem if you're traveling or whatnot. So I got per die.

DM, for DM bet, and you point to Nick Ballore, because that's who I always bet with, because he was my roommate, like, one of my best friends on the team. So we bet every time we had to go opposite. So like he'd go get, all right, a guest kicker today is Sione Buja. And it's like a 330 pound defensive tackle. We've got to make like a 25-yard field goal. And I mean, guys would be doing flips. Like after, I mean, after guys made it, missed it, what have you. That's how we finished Friday practice every week. So like little things like that. with Rex that just made it so fun. And then like go get an effing snack like every single Saturday night.

Like just stuff like that, man. Rex was the best. He made it fun. I forgot about the snack stuff. Yeah. Oh, that was great. He was the only one that ate the snack. Like no one ate the snack.

Yeah, he just wanted it. Get it for everyone. But it's, yeah, we know why, Rex. We just say, get me a snack, dude. I'm very interested in this one because you mentioned South Lake Carroll earlier, where you went to high school, factory out of Dallas, okay? The movie Varsity Blues loosely based. on South Lake Carroll, being that and that you were the quarterback,

which quarterback you most closely relate to Lance Harbor or Johnny Moxon? Johnny Moxon. Your Mox. Yeah, you are Mox. You put your pants on one leg at a time. I was the backup quarterback for... To Chase Daniel. Behind Chase Daniel.

Greatest NFL career ever. So, Nate Daniel was Lance Harbor. I was Johnny Moxon. So, yeah, I was Moxon. And still don't always align with Moxon's the way he would clock the four. football. I feel like it wasted some unnecessary time to hang a mascot. But we can work on his game management skills. But yeah, Mock's was my guy. Whip cream bikini. Whip cream bikini. She made a comeback in Landman, by the way. Another good crush, by the way,

another one. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Hadn't lost a step. No. By the way, still got the fastball. She still got it. Yeah. By the way, it sounds like Carol, I feel like was like the first school to build like an actual facility like y'all's facility back in those days was second to none it's so dumb when you think about it dude it's unbelievable that school we had an indoor facility yeah for a high football team and y'all the dallas cowboys before they got their bubble yeah would come to south lake to practice so we would be sitting there like at the in the weight room and in walks you know tony romo like it's Romo. Like, you know, there's true blood so.

Like, they would come over to the facility and use it because we had, like, the only indoor facility in the area. So, yeah, South Lake was awesome, like, football factory, for sure. We were one of the first with, like, a massive football stadium there in 2002. I think it opened, and it was just, it was a unbelievable place to play ice football. Yeah, actually, it still is. Yeah. Where do I want to go here?

Okay. We've had some fun with. this when we went on our trip to national golf links about words you have to get into the broadcast what's the craziest or most difficult word you've been asked to try to get into the broadcast you're one and one with me by the way you let me down with tutsies well tutsies was tussies was a miss uh we were doing vanderbilt bama and tutsies tutsies would have been and i honestly just forgot about it you got to remind me during the game like that i don't want to bother you you're focused yeah well

I have my phone. There's commercial breaks. We have plenty. The smoke show was a tough one. I'm not going to lie. That was a tough one. But we got it in loosely, even though you guys claimed that it didn't count.

I'm glad you're giving me a point for that one. I'm giving you a point. That was good. That was a tough one. It was the best I could do under the circumstances. But no, I still think the one that y'all made Zarsar say a couple years ago takes the cake. That's the hardest I've ever heard.

and it got in. So we don't need to repeat it, but that would have been by far the most difficult. Tutsi's an easy one. Like, do you have one this week that you would like me to try? You're doing Bama. Yeah, who we got? Bama.

Subpar is too easy. Who do you got Bama, who? Subpar. I'll get subpar in. That's a breeze. Yeah, that's way too easy. That's way too easy. They got Bama, Tennessee.

Kind of subpar. Yeah, that's too much of a cakewalk. Well, you can go to our other show, gravy in the sleaze, see if you can work that in. Yeah, if you can work in both of those words, gravy and sleaze. They don't even have to be together. Work in sleaze. That's our goal this week.

I need slees. Mm, good test. Well, I got to check and see if the weather's going to be kind of cold because if it is, then some of the players could be wearing slees. Yes. See, you could make it a mess up, too. They're marching down the field with slees with ease. You can make that one work.

So, yeah, I can get sleaze in. I just need to check the temperature. It's a night game. assuming someone will have some long sleeves on. I'll be watching every second of that bad boys. He'll be recording it. Very interested in this game. All right, a couple more.

All right, you get dragged into a bar fight, Greg. Let's just say, you didn't start it, but suddenly some guys want to have a little crack at you. You get to pick one teammate ever in your career to have your back. Who would you want? God, it's a good one. They'd be one in college. It's a no-brainer.

That's an easy one. I feel like all the best ones are in college. For the most part, in the NFL, there's too much at risk. Like the guy, it's hard to envision this scenario, but I'll take one in the NFL. We had a tight end named Hayden Smith. He was a rugby player that had never played football before. Yes. And he was like 6-6, 260, fluid athlete, like just a freak show.

Like, just a complete freak show. And he was Australian and was just a really good dude. And if it got sideways, like, have y'all ever met rugby players? Yes, I have. They're insane. They're insane. Yeah. They're literally insane.

Like, he'll, he'll always, everything is like piss. Like, oh, you want to drink some liquid piss. That's beer. You want to drink some caffeine piss. That's coffee. It's like everything's like he's insane. Like, I would drink, he would drink 600 milligrams of caffeine every day. And then drink 10 beers and it was like,

it was like nothing. Like absolutely nothing. So it was, I mean, he could probably drink in a good day, probably 30 beers. Like no problem. I don't think about it. I mean, no problem. And guess what? Like, he's like, I'm one of the tame ones.

They should meet my teammates. Like, they are insane. So Hayden Smith in the NFL in college, it's funny because it's always like tight ends and fullbacks. Always. In college, it'd be a guy named Preston Dial. Remember at Richland Country Club, Nashville, Tennessee. So hopefully he's got some friends that are listening to that one.

If it got sideways, you want to dial on your side. Okay. It was kind of our fullback, Hback, like, awesome. And then Baron Huber was the other guy. It was our fullback. We're number 40. Those two guys, if things got sideways, they had your back. Like, honestly, you think about that you think like D-Lyman, linemen, linebackers,

like, no, you want fullbacks and H-backs because those guys like search for contact. Like tight ends, fullbacks, H-backs. sense. Those are the guys you want for sure. The guys that break up the wedge on the kickoff. That's the guy. A hundred percent. Yeah. The crazy ones.

I like that. All right. Next one for me here. What number is lower? Your handicap index or your 40-yard dash time at the combine? Well, at the combine, at the combine, I had a broken hand. There's nothing to do with your feet, Greg. From the senior bowl.

I just moved my right hand. I broke my right hand of the senior bowl. minor injury, but beside the point. So I had to start left-handed, which was not ideal. It probably cost me a half-tenth or, you know, half-tenth, maybe a tenth, who knows? So my handicap index is better than my 40, but I think had I been healthy, it would have been probably a photo finish, like 4-7 on the dot. Yeah, 4-7 and 4-9. I like it. Hey, by the way, sub 5. No streaming that. 4-7. Relax. It was 44. Relax. Don't see stuff.

Just telling you what the Internet told me, okay? The Internet is wrong. Haters. All right. Haters. But yeah. 4-7 is better. Four-seven's moving. There ain't nothing to be ashamed about with 4-7. No, 4-7's index. 484, he claims in the-48-4 in the... Oh, okay.

Yeah. Well, either one is nothing to be ashamed of, by the way. All right. You're back in high school, stud at South Lake Carroll. Your recruitment is open. You can go anywhere in the country you want. Current day, but can't go to Bama. Where do you go?

And it's current day? Current day right now. You're the top dog. Oh, gosh. I'd still, my dream school was Texas. So like that was my, that's where I wanted to go. That was my dream school. They didn't offer me.

They said I was too slow, ironically. 4-84, they were going a different direction. They were Vince Young and that was kind of where they were heading. They wanted a more mobile option. They wanted to be more of a quarterback run-centric team, understandably with the success they had with Vince. But Texas would probably be my number one school. But I'm a sucker for tradition.

Like I am, so it would pretty much be anywhere that had a storied legacy of tradition. So Texas would probably be number one, but on the short list would be places like Georgia. I just align with that culture, tough culture, hard-nosed culture, like quarterback that's tough. Yeah, so probably like Texas and Georgia would probably be the next two. D.C.U. SMU. That was for work. They're pretty far down. I like Redd a lot.

And you know what? I mean, high level education at both TCU and SMU. But now it's funny, like I was a Dallas guy for a long time. But as I've gotten a little older, I have found Fort Worth to be very appealing. Smart man. It takes some people a little longer to figure it out. Totally agree with you on that. All right.

Last one for me. True or false, you once watched a Duke game at Jason Cochrack's house. That is accurate. And second part of the question, how are the ribs? Is Cochrak listen to the show? Probably every day, but I have no idea. Don't care. He and Timberlake, listen.

Together. Yeah, they zoomed in. And as ours, I'll tell you, they were probably one of the worst ribs I were had. But in his defense, it was kind of a, it was kind of throw it together. Like, it was the last minute thing. He decided to have people over last minute. So we all went over there and whatnot. He had all his boys.

And he had to cook ribs fast. And ribs are not a fast. Like, throw them on the grill, you know, a couple times. You're good. It's not like cooking a burger or a steak. Like, we can do a steak. No time. We do chicken breast, no time. But like the ribs, do ribs in an hour. It's just not going to happen.

So they weren't great. The best part about it, though, and I just goes to show you, like, y'all's golfers, like, y'all have your teams and, like, oh, you know, what's wrong with the American team? That's the way, oh, I've got my team and I got this. Like, all his boys are like, bro, these are unbelievable, bro. These are amazing. Like, so good, dude.

Thank you. And me and ours for, like, bro. Like, you need to have some guys in your life to tell you. the truth. You know, you need to have some guys are like, oh, this is, this, this was tough. This is a tough. This is a tough. Two minute. Yes, man. Your ribs suck. You suck. You need to work on this. That's what you need. When you have your team, like all your boys, oh, bro, that wasn't a bad shot, dude. No, dude, that was, honestly, like the, like, I could just tell, like the wind actually changed on you there. Like, whatever. Like, come on, man. Was this pre-live or, or while he was at

live? Oh, way pre-lived. Oh, I was hoping it was at live. I was like, yeah, he's got all that money now. Of course, they're kissing his ass. No, it's like 10 years. years ago. This is before he won anything. This was before he, at this point, I mean, he was living in Charlotte. I don't even know at this point. I don't think he was a top 50 player at that point, but I enjoyed Cochrak. Like, we got along. We played a lot of golf together. He was a lot of fun. Dude, I like Cochrak a lot. And that boy could play back in the day. He was one of those freakish long guys, too, before like everyone was long. Dude, he was so long. He was so long. He's probably the longest guy I've played with in my life is probably still Trey Mullinax.

But Cochrak is right there. Yeah. I mean, co-crack is like very, very close. But Trey, like when he moves it, you could tell it's going. But with Co-crack, he doesn't even look like he's swinging. And the ball's just out of there. Country strong. I'll tell you, yeah, very country strong.

A quick Co-crack one. We're paired together in the Porter Cup. Big Amateur event, Niagara Falls. He hits at nine miles. I don't. But we're on a part of. three. And just out of habit, you know, you're like looking the other person's back. I mean, kind of just see what they're hitting. I go to like, look, he takes his towel and covers up his

clubs. What? I was like, dude, I'm not really even going to club off you. You're two clubs longer to attract too. I just laughed by ass. I was like, he just covered up his clubs. I like, he was worried that you were going to like get some information. Yeah, dude. He wasn't having it. Yeah, people like to snoop and see, you know, it's check and club selection. I'll never forget. I was like number 15 at the Porter Cup. It was. Were you at the same? Were you playing, I'm trying to figure out, were you playing on the same team? No, individual. Individual amateur tournament.

Oh, individual amateur tournament. Just in the summer. Yeah. I was thinking it's like, this is like some type of a Walker Cup arrangement. Like this is, that's great. They just didn't want cult copying off him. Like the guy at the Wonderland. He's probably going to know he needs to seven.

Six. It's a little six. Yeah. All right, Greg, last one. I'll let you get out here on an easy one, but college football, it is all. up in the air, I feel like this year. Give me your national championship game who's playing in the winner. Yeah, right now it'd be hard to go in a different direction than Ohio State. I think Ohio State's playing better than anybody. I think their offense is continuing to become a bit of

a work in progress, but it's not something that is of concern to me. To me, it's almost like they don't have to be that yet. But I think Ohio State's the best team. So if I had to pick a championship winner today and be Ohio State and the team that I think they'll play so far

and albeit early I think Indiana has been the most impressive that I've seen now a lot of way to go they have still

some challenging tests ahead but those to me are the two best teams that I've seen but since they're from the same conference I'll mix it up

I'll go Ohio State and Miami I think those two teams are pretty sporty my friend yeah all right I like that I'm betting on that

so that better win Yeah, he's going to bet every game now, the rest of the way. Ohio State. I'll get a bunch of shit. I'll tweet you if it goes wrong. All right, Greg, man. We appreciate you to join us. Love listening to you every Saturday.

And also love your golf game as well. Easy money. Yeah, well, I'm glad it is for you, my friend. Hey, I'll enjoy it, boys. Y'all do an awesome job, man. Really proud of y'all and look forward to visiting again soon. Yeah, get out here this winter. We'll fix everything.

Yeah, that sounds like a great plan. I'll get right there. I'll leave my three kids and my wife at home after a year on the road. So I'll just, I'll definitely, I'll swing right there. string right by. Tell me, covering an ASU scrimmage. You got to be there.

Yeah. In January. Perfect. Correct. Before you. All right, Greg. Thank you, my man.

All right. That was Greg McElroyd joining us on subpart. First off, he liked the Miami Hurricanes to be in the Natty. Then they proceed to lose. It is possible.

They proceed to immediately lose to Louisville. He also was big on Duke going against our producer, Mark, Rambling Rack of Georgia Tech. Not so fast, my friend. Other than that,

You got Slees in the broadcast. He did. He did. Twice, by the way. Once in the second quarter, once at the end, there was a little P.I. calls out, yeah, it looks like he just grabbed him by the Slees there. Shout out. You made national television.

I'm proud of you. Well done. It's good to get the word slees in the broadcast. Also, his- See how many times you can do it? His Mark Blackburn impersonation was spot on. Yeah. Yep.

Also, the first quarterback I've come across, it's not like die-hard into all the technique. Yeah. You know? Yeah, he's obviously what he was. Brain explodes. They want to be perfect with everything. Also, like the so what's next.

Yeah, that's good for us. Next time you tell me about a member guest win or something, that's what I'm going to say. So what? Well, let me tell you what happened six years ago. So what's next? Probably nothing. Probably nothing.

I was probably the end of it. He's just a dude. Took a lot of shots of me, by the way. I think he's real bitter about the money I took from him up there at National Golf Links. His story, I can't imagine this story. He's told a million times how I give him one aside. He was two aside.

And that's what the fine people of the USDA told me in the app. Who we could never say a bad word about. No, they're fantastic. They know what they're doing. The handicap system is perfect. They know what they're doing. Exactly. There's no flaws in that thing.

All right. That's going to do it for us. Thank you so much for joining us. And next week, number 15, smartest athlete in the 2010 list by Sporting News joins us. Gary Woodland. Not Gary Woodland. Never mind. Y'all have a great one.

We'll talk to you on next week's subpar.