Subpar - George Brett reveals his favorite things to do at the Masters, the first time he successfully shot his age
Episode Date: March 25, 2025On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar, Colt Knost and Drew Stoltz are joined by MLB Hall of Famer George Brett for an exclusive, in-studio interview. The Kansas City Royals legend talks his ...typical schedule when attending the Masters, dice games at Sage Valley and the first time he successfully shot his age.--Choose your style, pick your favorite Birdie Juice logo and shop from a line-up of top tier brands at shop.golf.com today! --Make sure you enter the Golden Bear(™) Sweepstakes between March 27th - April 13th with Fanatics Sportsbook for your chance to win a pin flag signed by Jack Nicklaus. Gambling Problem? See Official Rules at https://sportsbook.fanatics.com/promo-terms/2025/Sweepstakes/ALL_1878.pdf . Sponsor: FBG Enterprises Opco, LLC. Not sponsored, endorsed by or affiliated with Augusta National, Inc.https://www.joinfanatics.com/subpar-signed-flag-sweepstakes/GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER, Connecticut residents call (888) 789-7777, Massachusetts residents call (800)-327-5050, New York residents call (877) 8-HOPENY, Maryland residents visit mdgamblinghelp.org. --Thank you to our partners at Ship Sticks. Skip airport stress and costly airline fees with complimentary insurance, real-time tracking, dedicated support, and on-time delivery. Go to shipsticks.com and use the code SUBPAR20 to enjoy 20% off your first shipment.--Thank you to our partners at Callaway. The #1 putter on every major Tour—PGA, LPGA, DP World—you name it. More Tour Pros trust Odyssey than any other brand, and it shows with #1 rankings in worldwide wins and money earned. See what it can do for you at OdysseyGolf.com.--The road to opportunity is often the road overlooked. That’s why Enterprise Mobility offers new roads to help drive your business forward. With mobility solutions like fleet management, flexible truck rental, and an unmatched global network, they can help your business find the right solutions. Their mobility experts find smarter ways to scale your business, so you’re not just growing bigger—you’re getting better. Find your road at enterprisemobility.com--Start your hair growth journey with Nutrafol. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners ten dollars off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to nutrafol.com and enter the code SUBPAR.
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Okay, well.
Didn't enjoy that too much.
I'll just stay in the hotel.
But someone did enjoy some golf this past weekend,
and that was Victor Hovlin at the Valspar championship.
What a final round that was.
Look like at one point there was about 10 guys with a chance to win.
Victor Hovlin probably wasn't going to be one of those guys starting the week.
This is a guy coming off three missed.
cuts at zero confidence has been very open and honest about it. And when you mentioned his three
miscuts, Slease, it's not like they were just regular events with 156 guys. You had two events
in there that were signature events, one being the Arnold Palmer invitation where 18 people
got cut. It's like a ceremonial cut. And the Genesis invitation where 21 people missed the cut.
So very small cuts, Victor's game was in horrendous shape. He shot 80 at the players on Thursday.
and then somehow gets it around Ennisbrook, the Copperhead course, and hoist the trophy.
Hated his game going in.
Hates it still, I think, to this day.
Wasn't even going to play this past week, which we've seen him do a bunch.
He hasn't played that much golf because he's been hating his golf swings so much.
And you mentioned like the cuts.
How about this?
I'll add on to that.
It's been eight months since he'd made a cut in a full field event since he'd played the weekend.
The only other ones were limited events, signature events.
Also, since he won the FedEx Cup in 2023, he's been through five.
five different coaches.
And this was a guy, like, when we came back from Rome,
I know Scotty Sheffler's been world number one.
He's been the best.
But at that time, you know, his ball striking was world class, elite,
top of the world.
But the short game was a problem.
And he got with Joe Mayo.
That started looking nice.
I mean, he was holding chips from the green at the Ryder Cup.
And at the end of that, I was like, that's the best.
If there was a tournament starting tomorrow, he'd be the guy I'd pick.
I think he's playing the best golf in the world.
And then you fast forward a couple years, five coaches.
miss cuts. I mean, it just shows what a fucking wild game this is, where the best in the
world can be like that. I mean, you just won on the PJ tour and he can't stand the way he's
swinging the golf club. Yeah, it's not like it's a golf course. You can just slap it around.
And it's a birdie fest where the putter can win it for you. I mean, you got to hit shots.
Copperhead is very difficult. 11 under par one. Justin Thomas made a big run. At one point was
leading by three when he was seven under par on the day. And then the snake pick got him. He bogeed 16
and 18. But I will say this. JT. is
playing some very nice golf. Fourth, fourth top 10 of the year, I thought on Sunday we saw the old
JT back where he had some swagger. He was walking in puts, pointing to the crowd, pumping them up.
It was good to see. He's got some juice. And if you're juiceless, you are useless.
Correct. He's going to become more and more popular as we get closer to Augusta. He looked,
like, he's a guy that teeters on confident, arrogant, cocky, whatever you want to call it.
I think the best version of JT golf wise, is that cocky, arrogant guy where he's
chirping and he's feeling himself and all that.
I mean, after he birdied four or five on that Sunday,
he ain't just winning, it's just how many is he going to win by at this point?
And then the snake pit.
And by the way, props to Victor, like, you didn't just give it to him.
He did make two bogey, but Victor went out there, birdies 16, 17,
buried a couple other on the back nine as well, like played a really nice back nine
and got the bogey on 18, like, it was like foregone conclusion.
Yeah, it's fine.
Cruise it in, yeah.
Well, all right, leave it in front of the green, chip on two putt.
And we're done.
think about him chipping. You're texting. I was a little nervous on that chip. That's a one.
This is a guy who has been very open. He's gotten so much better over the last couple years,
thanks to Joe Mayo. But about three years ago, I think Victor might have pulled the putter out there.
He's like, I'm a terrible chipper. That was a little dicey off, some tight Bermuda. I would have
definitely put it out. Just got to get it down in three. Let's just slap it up there.
I have been watching some Joe Mayo videos, though, on Instagram and it's...
Are you going to start getting steep with it? Maybe get in the steep, shallow debate on Twitter.
That's always a fun place to chime in.
Am I allowed to do that?
Very reasonable people.
I promised you I wouldn't get in
any conversations about live anymore on Twitter.
If you want to get into steep versus shallow, I'll allow it.
But don't do all the other stuff.
God, I was, I mean, every night on Twitter,
I'm like an alcoholic at a bar, just sitting there shaking.
I'm like, good God, I want to respond, I want to respond.
I mean, dude, that debate, that's like bloods and crips.
You are, there is a line drawn in the same.
Also, cool, I thought, for the week.
There was a lot of freakouts.
Yes.
This week, people were losing their shit over there at Innesbrook.
the big one I would say
Adam had one
shout out to you
another viral moment
for you
hasn't involved
what you've done
on the golf course
but a little
oopsie daisy
for him
got a little upset
bad luck in my
it's a shit beat
by the way
he didn't even slam
the it was
that was a three
on a freak out scale
maybe
and it just happened
to be a sprinkler
right there
and the shit
blows up
like the ballagio
water show
and then by the way
he just crouches there
in the middle
what's that
what's that gonna do
what are you gonna
you're gonna clog this
with your hand
like just get the hell
out of there
you made a boo-boo
but yeah
Shout out to Hadwin. He did it again.
We had Hadwin with the sprinkler.
Justin Lauer, just full karate kick to his wedge coming out of a bunker, snapped in half.
Saw a Thigala, drops his club because he hated the strike, then decides to pick it up and then Tomahawk.
Launch it into the woods.
Which we don't see from him very often.
Respect. By the way. He normally is cool, calm and collected.
But Ennis Brooke can get the best of a man.
And then even, hold on, even the Golden Child had a little F-bomb rather loud on a chip shot.
And then, one of the first.
of my favorites I've ever seen because I've never seen it before.
Patton Kassire, who we've had on this show, talked about some of his club
slinging incidents in the past, just full on punted that damn thing.
I mean, I don't even know if the Dallas Cowboys kicker Brandon Aubrey could kick a putter
that far.
I mean, it was beautiful for him, too.
That's a technique you don't see often at the elite level.
You don't see it often at the shit level either, but the full punt of the club I love.
By the way, you issue an apology.
Pat and if you're listening out there, don't issue an apology.
There's no one got hurt.
No one's pissed.
If you're pissed at him, punt in his butter,
then you're the problem.
Don't bend the knee and send out a video apology.
Let's put to bed.
By the way, do it again.
In Auburn, if you got some NIL money laying around,
you're going to punt a few times next season,
maybe look the kid up.
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We're down in Houston. Okay, Memorial Park, beast of a golf course. How about these odds? I found this
Fascinating.
Scotty Sheffler is in the field this week, as is Roy McRoy.
Scotty Sheffler is plus 330 to win.
Roy McRoy is plus 700.
The next, the third betting favorite is Aaron Riot plus 2,800.
That's quite the fall off.
By the way, props to Houston for getting some nice names down there.
Also, Rory feels like it should be closer to Scotty, I would think, than that at this moment.
330s, nothing.
I don't know if Roy's ever played here before.
Scotty finished second last year.
lost to Stephen Yeager.
Yeager got him.
I want to say congrats to you on your pick,
Corey Conner's to top 20 last week.
I loved it and it actually happened.
James Tyree Poston, Aaron Fleener,
not happy with you.
You were right there to top 20 and you let me down for the season.
You were up $360 on our $100 bets.
I am up 230.
So if you follow us along, that's $5.90.
Goodbye, you.
Nice stuff.
Oh, my God.
Follow us along all year.
We're going to have some cool giveaways over at the Fanatic Sports Book.
All right, let's get to it.
I feel good again.
I'm going to go top 10.
I'm getting a little aggressive this week.
Okay.
Off a guy who I just feel like he is so close to winning again.
So why not finishing the top 10?
Plus 350 for a top 10.
Give me Jason Day.
It's a juicy burger.
Plus 350.
I like that.
Top 10, you got to have some faith.
I'm going top 20.
A little more wiggle room.
I've been running hot.
That's three straight, though.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I'm going to keep fired on that.
Just keep it in singles.
This is similar to the way I felt last week.
with Cory Connors.
I was like, I love it maybe too much.
There's a guy playing a pretty good golf right now.
He's finished runner up in two of his last three starts.
Just kind of coming into his own.
J.J. Spahn is plus 150 for a top 20.
The way he's hitting the golf ball driving and his iron play is beautiful.
I mean, he's close to having a couple wins this season, a couple big wins too.
So top 20 for him?
Yeah, why not?
Yeah, he's playing.
Love his golf swing.
And we talked about it before the season started.
He expected him to have a big year, and it's going that way.
He's sixth in the Ryder Cup standings.
I actually talked to him just a couple of days ago out at the Rock,
and he's not playing Valero, which was his only PGA tour win.
I said that's kind of a weird decision.
He goes, last time, the only time I played the Masters,
I won Valero, fly out over there.
I mean, everything felt rushed.
Didn't really feel like I got to prepare for it.
He goes, I want to get there early, enjoy the whole experience,
prepare for the Masters.
So he's tainted up this week and then heading to Augusta early.
Nice luxury to have when you don't have to win the tournament,
the week before.
Jar Jar Binks.
Go get them, bud.
Well, our guest this week
has also spent some time
at Augustin National.
Had some nice rounds.
Would have missed the cut
with his scores,
but that doesn't matter.
Y'all been asking for him,
so we thought we would bring him back.
Here's the legend,
George Brett, on golf subpar.
Okay.
The time has finally come.
One of our most highly requested
return guests.
One of the best hitters
in the history of baseball.
First ballot,
ball player, and storyteller.
The great George
Brett returns. What a pleasure.
Jorge's here.
Good to have you.
How about this?
So I was, I went back and listened to our first one.
Oh, wow.
March 9th, 2021.
It has been four years.
Wow.
March 9th, March 9th, March 9th.
2020.
2020.
Yeah.
And people are still talking, still requesting you.
Yeah, because we were, we came on, you started immediately giving me shit how you said
you're going to, I was going to have you on this show and then it never happens.
Yeah.
pushed you to March after the Phoenix Open, but here we are.
We learned a lot about you that day.
I'm back, okay.
A lot of shit's happened in the last four years, I bet.
You ain't a kidding.
You look the same.
I wish I could say I felt the same.
You don't feel the same?
No, no.
I played golf today at Whisper Rock.
I got up this morning, 6 o'clock, went, got my iPad, went and sat in the area by the
kitchen, pushed the button on the side of the wall.
The fireplace came on, you know, I'm sitting there looking and stuff, made the coffee.
I get up to get the coffee and I went, oh, my God.
God. I had one of those spasms again. So I'm freaking out. Jump in the pool, do some stuff,
loosen up a little bit, take a hot shower. Chuckie Bond, a good friend of mine. You know,
Chuckie? Chuckie always gives me this, this, uh, TBC oil or whatever it is. What is it?
You know those oils? That's supposed to make you feel good. I put that on. I took two Tylenol.
I got to Whisper Rock today. I took to a leave. Little, little, little,
gingerly on the range and about the third hole.
I didn't feel anything. And you're back.
Yeah. What did we fire today?
I shot fired.
It's pretty generous. I was pretty generous as I usually am. My caddy knows me now and
and I can hit it in the desert and we didn't have a big money game today.
You know? I know you're going. Man, it's amazing when the caddy likes you.
You have a perfect lie in the desert and you're one of those.
guys. Yeah, and I don't complain. Of course not. I go, where's it? He said, no, you got a perfect lie over
there. All you got to do is hit it over a tree. But I shot an 83, 4439, but on the 39, you know,
sometimes I haven't played with you in a while, Colt. I've only played with you once or twice.
I mean, if I play a hole really good, if I hit it down the middle, maybe miss a green, chip it up to
like four foot, hit a great putt. It looks like it's going in and it just turns or
just comes up short, I always say,
fuck, I'm counting that.
Yeah.
It's very good.
So I had one of those.
So actually it was an 83.
Not a good run.
It almost goes in.
You say,
fuck it that counts.
It was a good sand shot.
It was a good chip or whatever.
Hey,
you know,
I played that hold too good to make a bogey.
I'm counting that.
Yeah,
you deserve it.
I like George's rules.
That's a great rule.
We might still be playing professionally if we had George's rules.
And then I have a new line.
I have a new line.
said this about three years ago. I was playing with Willie Wood and Haydenwood. And man, I was
playing good. And I hit a four rescue on one hole. And I said, Willie, that was tour quality.
And Willie says, George, nobody on the tour plays a four wood or a four rescue. But now,
whenever I hit a good shot, hey, boys, that was tour quality.
Tour quality. I didn't have many of those today. Willie, ain't slinging long irons, by the way.
Well, said in a long time. You got like a seven iron damn near. Six iron hybrid. Yeah. And he said he
might be throwing a seven iron hybrid in for Augusta.
For Augusta, yeah. I might try that.
So tell Willie, tighten up.
Yeah, last time we had you on, you'd actually just played Augusta with Walter Driver.
Right, Walter Driver. Have you been back since?
I have not been back since. I am going to Augusta this year for the tournament.
I got invited by Mike Gila, a good friend of yours and mine, and a friend of his, they invited
me to go down. We're leaving Friday. I got us on Sage Valley. I called up. They got us at
1150 T-type at Sage Valley.
We got a house.
This guy's got Scotty,
Shuffler's, did he win last year?
Yeah.
So we're having the same thing he's having.
He's got a chef coming to our house.
He's cooking the same thing.
Just got an ounce today.
He's having the same thing coming.
And this guy likes his Bordeaux wines.
He's bringing a bunch of wine.
And we're going to play golf Friday afternoon at Sage Valley.
Go home to the house, have dinner.
And then we're going to the tournament Saturday.
and then we're going to go to T-Bones.
My old friend, Mark Cummins, used to own that.
He passed away, and I'm going to go see his kids who are now running that,
and I'll go there for a couple beers,
and we're flying home Sunday morning and watching on TV.
Hopefully you stay late enough at T-Bones for my DJ set.
When, I'll be there.
I'll be there.
It tends to happen around 9.30 at night around T-Bones.
They hand me the iPad and let me take control of the music.
Really? Oh, for sure.
going in there. For sure. It's a rather nice time, George.
You're going with the Ilig, so you're on the Delta flight or?
No, we're going on. Air Ilig is really good.
That's a tough trip.
Really good.
Try to gut it out.
Are you going to the ranch?
Nope, I'm going to the Masters, though.
Oh, you got invited back to the ranch for.
Yeah, but I'm busy.
Have you ever been to the ranch?
Oh, yeah.
For the March Madness, Maple Madness.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What is that shit?
Tannerite, the bomb?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
With a 50 cow.
It's pretty amazing.
I never shot, like, hardly any guns in my life.
I'm like, here, try this one.
Yeah.
Once again, it was, that was, that's a different world.
This is a good friend of ours from Kansas City.
I shot a duck there once too.
We're talking about he's got a beautiful ranch and he does this big party.
It's not a ranch.
It's a goddamn resort.
Yeah, it is.
And he's got a big party and, and for March Madness.
And, God, how do I, 100 people go?
Yeah.
100 people and everybody stays on property, which is great, but.
I have some of a lot.
going because I'm still here for spring training.
And they have someone go out there and just hold the ducks and you shoot them.
Yeah, here's the duck.
We got up in these traps.
Exactly, yeah.
Go back to the Masters real quick, because I heard you had a rather interesting trip there one time where you ate
mastros seven straight nights at the Masters.
Oh, yeah.
Great Steakhouse.
Johnny Langbine.
I was there with Johnny Langbine and Dave Broderick.
And Dave brought me down there and we ran into Langbine.
And next thing you know, Langbine says, hey, I got the Sports Illustrated house.
want it you come by and say hi.
So I said, sure.
And he had this golf writer that was there talking to all the sponsors and stuff,
all the people that advertise.
So I go there and I'm walking around the house.
And what they did is they took every Sports Illustrated for like the last 20 years
and they put them all over the walls of this house.
And I was on the cover five times.
I was going, wait a second.
That's me.
That's me.
I said, and Mastroes catered it.
Yeah.
Mastro's catered it.
And so all of a sudden I see John and I'm talking to all these people,
I'm talking to some guys from Sports Illustrated.
And I go, man, this is unbelievable.
And they said, yeah, well, thanks for coming by.
I hope you have a lot of fun.
I said, coming by.
I'm coming by every night of town.
And you did.
I eat there on the wall.
I eat there four nights in a row.
I love that.
And it was unbelievable.
What's your plan of attack at the master?
So when y'all go out there Saturday to actually watch,
are you a guy that you want to go pick a hole and sit on?
No, I like to walk.
I'm a walker.
I don't like to sit down too long.
Is there a boy playing in it, Gary?
Gary?
He is not in the field.
He's not in the field.
He needs to win one of the next few weeks.
Okay, well, let's hope he wins one because I enjoy watching him play more than anybody else
because I've played with him more than anybody else.
I will probably watch Fred, Freddie couples.
I would love to watch him because he usually does really well there.
And y'all played and didn't see your partner?
I won AT&T.
Pellee Beach,
you ever go to Pebble Beach?
I have.
You ever see the first T,
all the names right there,
etched in bronze?
That's it.
Check out in 1987.
87.
They still talking about it.
Fred Couples and George Brett,
they put me up top and him on the bottom.
That's right.
Yeah.
Opening act.
Because I won that.
We had to play in overtime.
We had to play extra holes.
O.T.
I had to make a four for a three to beat them.
Who'd you go to overtime with?
Jackie Lee and Wayne Levy.
Oh,
tough break.
for them. Sorry, boys.
Sorry, Mr. Lee.
Yeah.
Tough break.
I'll watch Gary.
I'll watch Gary.
I'll watch Freddie.
Tell me some.
Oh, I'd love to watch Ludwig.
Oh, yeah.
You should swing it like him.
That's who I want to.
He's not just because Joe Scoburns is caddy, correct?
I just, when that guy first burst on the scene, what was his first big deal he did?
Was it the Ryder Cup?
Well, he got in the Ryder Cup like six months after he graduated college.
Yeah.
He played the Ryder Cup before he played a major.
But he played well on it, didn't he?
They kicked the shit out of the Americans.
Yeah, and so I just said, man, I like that guy.
And now Joe's caddying for him.
So that's who I would try to go see.
You think with all the success, Joe might pick up a tab or two.
You would think.
Good luck with that.
Has he ever?
A couple more signature events.
Yeah, a couple more.
Yeah.
Make a couple more.
How about Gary being back, though?
Like you said, I mean, we need him to win.
It's an amazing story.
But just like, I don't give a shit, dude.
Just being back and healthy.
From what he went through?
Yeah.
I mean, I had a son 19 months old that had brain surgery.
and he wasn't the same.
He didn't feel normal until he was in ninth grade.
Didn't feel normal because he was on this medication.
And I played golf with Robin.
You know my son, Robin.
He was out there today with me.
And he just says everything just looks gray.
And he had no energy.
And when he was in eighth grade,
I mean, he had the brains of a two or three-year-old or second grader
because his brain just never, it never grew.
Yeah.
You know, and finally he got off the medication.
And to tell you what Gary's going to experience,
hopefully he gets off the medication soon,
he's my only son that graduated college.
The other two dropped out.
Wow.
And he was starting way behind the start line.
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Now back to George Brett.
Did you watch everybody?
Did you watch Full Swing at all and see Gary's episode?
It was a tear-jurker.
Oh, my God.
It was a tear-jurker.
That was brutal.
I had to be alone.
My wife was watching this one.
I was coming after it.
It's funny.
I think God was watching with somebody,
and every once in a while,
you just kind of go.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Because you don't want to let anybody know, but that was a tiered joke.
I didn't know it got to like that, I don't know, like, the point where he's like writing letters.
I mean, dude, at that point, like.
I lost it there big time.
But I talked to his parents during the Phoenix Open.
And he had played, I think the Phoenix Open was his third week in a row.
And he was gassed, mentally and physically gassed.
And he played well.
I think he shot 11-under, didn't he?
Yeah, he finished top maybe 21st.
He's had some real, like, flashes of like, that's Gary.
Yeah, exactly.
You know, has it been in, like, four rounds?
Not necessarily.
But he was going from Phoenix.
He was going to New York to get some treatment done.
Uh-huh.
And then I think he was going to take a week off or something.
And then I haven't followed.
Yeah, full swing came out.
Then he got presented the courage award.
Yeah.
And I was like, I'm pretty, I'm a little tired of you making me cry.
Yeah, exactly.
Can we get back to?
I think I said him a text.
I think I sent him a text.
If I didn't, I meant to saying, hey, that was pretty special.
I was bawled like a baby.
It was.
Y'all were also bawling like a baby
during the Super Bowl this year.
And y'all got absolutely your ass whipped.
That was brutal.
40 to 22 in case you forgot.
What was it?
40 to 22.
It wasn't that close, by the way.
That 22.
I mean, how many of those points were scored
when it was 40 to 3?
There was 15 late ones.
Mahomes looked like you in high school
just kept throwing it the wrong team.
Well, he didn't have time.
He didn't have time.
I mean, I didn't, I couldn't remember
where anybody was supposed to be.
I thought someone was supposed to be there.
not sure I'd throw it. No one was there.
That's their fault.
When I listened to the episode, we talked about him being a high school quarterback,
and you were like, what happened?
And he's like, well, like, we would run the play.
And then I wouldn't know where anybody was supposed to be.
And then I threw it to the wrong team a lot,
and my coach told me I threw two many interceptions.
I was out.
Yeah.
We're going to go with Fred Judge Nell.
Yeah.
God, that was good.
I was dying, laughing, going back to that.
But yeah, I know it's been a nice run in Kansas City,
but what the hell happened this year?
You know, I don't know.
and I didn't realize this, but afterwards I found out that I don't think the Eagles blitzed once.
Not once, right?
They did not flitzed.
They got some monsters on that line.
They got half of Georgia's, like, dynasty team.
Yeah, it was, uh, I mean, it wasn't the outcome, obviously I was pulling for.
I don't think it was the outcome.
I think the chiefs were favored, weren't they?
It was going back and forth.
They ended up being like a one-point game.
Yeah, that was a blowout.
That wasn't even a contest.
It was ugly.
In fact, one of the guys that, I'll get a good understanding of,
what the hell happened when I go down to Augusta because one of the guys that's going,
there's four of us going, is Mark Donovan.
He's the chief's president.
So, yeah, I'll get a good understanding.
Are you boys with Andy Reid at all?
Oh, yeah.
He's a great guy.
Is he as cool as he comes across?
He seems like a dude you just want to hang with.
Brett Veach, Andy, Andy, Andy Reid, and Mark Donovan are three.
That's the three top guys, the president, the general manager, and the head coach.
three of the top guys in organization, and they're all quality guys.
I know they were a little busy at halftime trying to make some adjustments,
but did you ask if they ever got a chance to go back and watch the halftime show?
I don't watch halftime shows.
You miss one.
I will not watch halftime shows.
I was like, George's going to like this.
No, I don't watch halftime shows.
I don't blame you.
They suck.
They're too long.
Well, how about in the World Series this year?
That first game in New York.
Did you see that?
Yeah, Fat Joe brought the house down.
It was because what, Ice Cube did it in L.A.,
and then New York felt like they needed to run.
Fat Joe was on the mound.
They're trying to compete with, they're trying to compete with the NFL.
How to screw up, how to screw up a major sporting event.
Every baseball player that I've talked to fucking hated it.
Both of them, by the way, not just New York.
They don't do that two minutes after the national anthem.
They don't do that, go up there and have guys singing and running around the infields and stuff, you know.
They don't do that stuff.
It felt awkward, too.
It wasn't like a concert.
It was like only doing one verse of songs.
and it was just like, I was like the crowd didn't really feel like they were into it.
No.
It felt weird.
It came across weird on TV at least.
How's spring training been?
I know you're out there quite a bit.
Spring training has been awesome.
You don't do night games, though.
You inform me.
We have a night game tonight.
I'm not at it.
I don't like to drive at night.
I don't like to.
I got to be there at 8.30 tomorrow morning to, every year I talk to all the minor leaguers.
So it's just me in the minor leaguers.
And so I'm going, I'm not going to go to a night game.
Come home, get home at 10 o'clock at night and have to be there.
hour drive, 45 minutes to an hour drive every day ago.
But yeah, I don't do night games.
This is the first year I'm not doing them.
But it's spring training has been a lot of fun.
They're playing well.
Our number one draft pick last year, Jack Caglione,
about six foot, four, probably weighs two, 50 maybe.
Not an ounce of fat on them.
I get it.
Like that.
He's 17.
His hands, BoJack.
Jackson was in camp, and I introduced Bo to him, and Bo came back after talking to him, and he said,
it's the biggest set of hands I've ever shook.
And this guy threw 98 miles an hour in college, and he's the first basement.
I think he hit 40 home runs his last year.
Florida.
He has the all-time record for home runs.
And this guy, I think he hit three or four home runs in spring training, and they were not cheapies.
They were bombs.
So, you know, he's going to start his first full year of minor leagues, but I'll tell you,
One thing, not only did he impress me, he impressed the coaching staff, he impressed the other
players, they were going, oh my God, this guy's the real deal.
And y'all had a hell of a year last year.
Yeah, because, you know, when you get a guy just because he's the first pick, doesn't
mean he's going to be a great player.
But when he comes to his first big league spring training, and he's, all the guys that
have, you know, eight, ten years and the big leagues, five years, and the big leagues
are going, oh, my God, this guy's the real deal, isn't he?
So I'm excited for him.
And last year was awesome.
Yeah.
We went two years ago, Slees, we won 56 games.
Lost 106.
Last year we won 86.
86.
30 game improvement.
And then we sweep the Orioles into playoffs in the playoffs.
And we should have beat the Yankees to go to the World Series.
Should have beat them.
We played bad and they played good.
If we played good and didn't walk eight guys in one game,
we could have been playing the Dodgers
in the World Series.
Which would have been incredible
because what are the Dodgers
are going to spend this year?
Are they going to spend like $500 million or something shit?
Did you count the $68 million that Otani's deferred?
I don't know how the deferred stuff works.
They almost have, with all their contracts,
because, you know, our good friend Stowe is a diehard Dodger fan.
They almost have a billion dollars in deferred money to their contracts.
The next best, next highest is like $68 million.
Yeah.
It is absurd.
I mean, this is, you're a baseball legend.
I like,
baseball because of you, but what is going on right now sucks? This deferred money shit?
Well, you know what? Guggenheim, I think, is the main owners of the Dodgers.
Okay.
I think. Well, they're saying, okay, we're going to withhold that $68 million, and we're going to pay
you $2 million. You know, Tani's making $50 million on the side anyways. Yeah.
You know, who knows what he's making. And let's just say they defer $68 million and they invest it.
and then they got to pay him down the road, 25 main a year for however many years, however the contracts.
Doctors are going to make more money on that just by investing it right now.
That's so crazy.
Somebody tried to explain to me how that works.
I don't understand all that stuff, but Guggenheim can, or anybody, can take that money and invest it if you're good and make more money than you'll pay them.
But don't you think for the game of baseball?
I think there's got to be a cap.
A minimum and a maximum.
There's got to be a max and a min.
100%.
You can't have teams with $100 million payroll,
paying teams with, you know, $400 million.
You can't compete.
So you've got to bring these guys up and bring them down.
The players will still make their money.
But they've got to make it more of a level field.
Yeah.
And I mean, have the small markets actually have a chance.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, it's cool.
The Dodgers.
I mean, they're obviously a huge draw.
Well, the Dodgers is what?
Or the Yankees.
I think $250, $300 million?
I don't know.
I bet it's more, I think the Dodgers just signed some dummy, like, deal.
That's part of the reason why they can have no issue doing all this shit and paying the luxury tax.
I think the Royal's local TD contracts $40 million.
Yeah, and I grew up a Rockies fan.
It's like, we just become like a farm club.
It's like, oh, well, wait until the deal's up and the Yankees will come jack him or the Red Sox or the Dodgers or whoever.
It's like we're just the farm club for these big things.
It sucks.
Paul Skeens will be a Red Sox, a Dodger or Yankee.
He won't be a Pittsburgh pirate for a long.
He's good, though.
Yeah.
Oh, he can bring it.
See, he the LSU kid?
I don't know how they're going to be able to keep him.
If he's going to get top dollar for a pitcher,
top dollar for a pitcher, you know, they're going to pay them $40 million
because pitchers only play every five days.
Let's say $40 million a year, let's say $120 million a year.
And so when he's not pitching, the Pirates payroll is $80 million a year.
How are you going to compete?
You can't.
You can't compete.
You can't.
Not for maybe a year you catch fire.
You catch lightning in a bottle or something.
Let me ask you this, though, because most like athletes, as they get further from their playing career,
look at their sport and like, oh, it got soft.
Like, I know some basketball players, like, NBA nowadays, you know, it's for plus season, all this stuff.
Do you think, take the money aside, is baseball like that, in your opinion?
Soft, like what?
Like, I think pampered, like you can't do.
I'm sure there was, like, pranks and all the type of stuff.
NBA is like a free-drow shooting contest, you know?
You can't hit anybody.
But in NBA, it's like load management, too.
Like, you don't play everywhere.
game and all these.
They sit more.
Pitchers nowadays,
if they can be throwing a no hitter
and they yank them in the fifth
because they're sitting down.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, the pitchers,
you're paying these guys a lot of money.
You don't want them to get hurt.
But I think position players
that go out there,
Bobby Wits of the world and,
you know, the star position players,
they're playing 162 games a year.
Soft.
Yeah, they're pampered a little bit more.
They have, they have,
I mean, all this data
that they have delivered to them every day.
They have chefs in the kitchen.
cooking them good meals.
They have masseuse therapists.
They have the cryo things you stand in, you know,
where before we didn't have that stuff.
You'd go out there and you'd get hurt.
They'd say, go put your foot in the whirlpool.
It was that little metal thing with the propellers going around.
Now they have pools.
They have pools with treadmills on the bottom.
Yeah.
Is it good or bad?
I mean, God, believe me, I wish I had it.
I really wish I had stuff like that, but I didn't.
I think players were a little tougher back then.
but back when I played.
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Now back to George Brett.
Have you reached back out to Gary Woodland about stretching him for two grand a week?
Yeah, how about that?
Does he need a stretch guy?
Well, he has a guy I was talking to him one day out here.
Yeah.
This is not our last episode.
No, I was at the house.
It was great.
No, and I go, he goes, I got to go home and get stretched.
And I go, what do you mean stretch?
He said, a guy stretches me and stuff.
I go, what does he make?
He says, two grand a week.
I go, fuck, I'll stretch it for a thousand.
Do I save some money?
Can't save $50?
What?
You can't get on the ground and bring your knee up to your chest and, oh, no, George, this is like really important stretching.
Good golfers have to do.
And I said, good golfers, because you'll never have to do that.
Yeah, Jack had one.
Yeah, I'm sure Jack had one.
I'm sure Arnie had one.
Can you imagine Freddie couples going in?
Hey, I got, hey, buddy, can you see your stretch?
If anyone needs somebody to help him out to beat Freddy with all his back problems, but damn.
It's true.
Two grand a week stretch guy.
It's a good gig.
What else you've been doing?
I know you went to the zoo yesterday.
Oh, yeah.
I went to the zoo.
You know what's crazy?
I'm sure the animals were real.
But I could have swore
they were cement,
and they were just cement molds painted
because nobody, everybody was sleeping.
The rhino was sleeping.
All the big animals were sleeping.
They should have to wait.
And they were all in the shade
and you'd walk around and you'd try to get different angles.
And I'm going, well, come on.
And you're yelling at them.
Hey, rhino, let's go.
Get up.
Rino.
Nothing. The monkeys were great. I saw them swinging from trees. I saw a turtus, a big turtle,
a 130-year-old turtle, go like this. And you had to pay to feed the stingrays.
Yeah. What about those stingrays? No, I didn't do that. That's the first thing you do. I was with
my niece and her two kids. And the first thing, I'm going, wait a second. And I picked up the tab for
everybody. I go, so now I got to pay, I got to pay to go look at a stig. Do I have to go pay
to see all the animals? But it was just the sting rate.
You just want to, if you want to feed them.
And they said, no, we're not doing that.
If you were an animal, what would you be?
If I was an animal.
You got so much energy.
I swear to God, I think the monkeys are just the coolest thing.
Monkey or chimp?
I think you'd be a monkey.
That would be great.
Bear would be good.
Bear would be good.
I don't know.
The monkeys, when I was in Africa about, God, how many years ago, like going on that
Safari, those monkeys, I just got a kick out of them.
Well, you know, we saw, we saw, we saw,
leopards, zebras, elephants, rhinos. We saw it all. How close do you get to them?
Too close. You're scared. Yeah. You're scared. Where'd you go? Where were you? Kenya? Kenya? You saw
them all? I saw them all. We saw the Grand Slam. The guy said, I've never seen so many animals in one day as you guys are
seeing. That's probably the coolest trip there is. We saw, we saw a lion. No, we saw a zebra.
hauling ass through this field. We were in the back of a Savari ban. My wife says,
God, look at that zebra. Look how fast it's running. And the guide, there are, uh, um,
Warrior says, oh my God, follow, follow.
Sure enough, we got there just as the lion got him on the ground and was
ripping it.
Ripping the skin off.
Ripping the skin off.
Did you like that?
It was weird.
It was strange.
Well, there's some loud noises coming?
Oh, yeah.
Well, we weren't that close.
We were probably 50 yards away.
Would you go again?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, they pop up in their faces all.
But I got to go as a kid one time.
We had a similar situation.
There was a pregnant giraffe.
and then we're all everyone
I did it when I was a kid
as the coolest trip I've ever been on my lifetime's
a big multiple yeah
and there was a giraffe that was pregnant
and they all knew about it
and it was giving birth
but when giraffes give birth
it's just what you think it is
I mean dude the baby like drops out
from fucking up top
baby broke its leg which you're fucked
as soon as that happens
lions figured out about it
they got word
we load up we go out
they got word
they got like our crew
whoever was spotting the drafts
we're like yo this one's down
we pack up and go up there same deal probably 40 50 pretty damn close honestly when you think about it
and they were just ripped this little bit and do they pop you can like hear it it's a whole different
yeah what a trip man I can see you as a monkey though with your history with you know yeah you'd be
you're comfortable just grab it throw it that's what they do don't they grab it they throw it
people playing it around I said I know you had a quote was like yeah I'm good for like two a year
how are we doing this year been in a slump
You're in a slump.
That's a good thing.
That's a good thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's a good slump.
It is only March.
Give it some time.
You know, I don't know how I did in 24.
25's been pretty good.
I like that.
Yeah.
I like that.
Well, we were out having a couple beers the other night, listening to some music.
My favorite.
My favorite place.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
It's a great spot.
But my favorite.
We were talking about the Chuck wagon in Kansas City.
Okay.
How are we doing it?
It's the member guest at your home course, Mission Hills.
Yeah.
You know what?
I mean, you had your kids, your daughter-in-law pulling for this.
I would do it.
Because you never play.
I used to play, and then it just became, see who can be the most obnoxious drunk person in the tournament.
I know that game.
Yeah.
And so I just said, I'm not playing in it.
And none of my friends my age playing it.
all the young kids do.
So Ileg's always trying to get me to play in it with Colt.
And I'm going, yeah, God.
I mean, Kami comes back.
And he's Mike Illig's partner, but you know where Kami stays at my house?
You don't say it's a compound?
No, he doesn't stay at it.
Well, the compounds way out.
Mike lives about five blocks from where I do, but Mike's got three young kids.
And you don't want Kami stay in there.
And I got all these extra bedrooms, so Kami always stays at my house.
And as long as Kami's there, you don't have to worry about me being the drunkest.
And we'll handle that.
And we do live so close to the course.
I think you could even drive home.
You just let me know because I will get my game nice and sharp.
So we take down Illigan Comey.
If you decide you want to do it.
How many shots are you going to have to give up, though?
That's the problem.
So we just went on a trip to Vegas.
But how many shots?
What's your handicap?
Plus what?
Plus 2.9 index.
Okay.
So Commy got nine shots off me, which I can handle Commie and nine shots.
But commie's also, his range is like, when he plays good,
We played that pro-scratch with him at the Rock earlier this year.
He was the only non-scratch, I think, or pro in the thing.
And he played really good.
Yeah.
But then, like, two weeks later, he's like, I lost my whole shit.
I'm terrible now.
But he's entertaining.
Probably a really good part, though, if you can catch him when the handicaps up a bit.
I just don't trust guys that chip with forwards.
He's a very European player.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I don't trust guys that have those long putters that, and you know how he gets in.
He goes, calls it cooch.
And he does old...
Comey takes a lot of deep breaths when he plays golf.
I've noticed recently.
He's a tinkered.
I think there's a lot of...
The hamster wheel's spinning rather fast up top when he's over the ball.
Remember when we showed up one day?
I mean, we play with them all the time.
His golf swings like normal kind of ish tempo.
One day I show up, first he puts the ball on the ground.
We get the game.
Takes it back.
I mean, there's like a half a second to a second pause at the top and he hits it.
And I was like, what?
He said, dude, I don't know.
I just woke up and I swing like a decky now.
Just out of nowhere.
I love that.
Well, just let me know, George.
I'll be on call, ready to go, if you want to tee it up the chuck wagon.
If not, I'm sure there's some Kansas City people listening that would love to have me.
Yeah, without question.
Anyone in Kansas City, reach out.
Yeah.
Are you got any more, what about any more club championships under the belt?
No, no.
Your greatest sporting achievement.
Are you still chasing?
I was going to, I tried, I played in the senior tournament.
Oh, it was at Whisper Rock.
the senior club championship.
I played in that and it was an add-em-up
and then you qualified.
So I shot like
82, 81, I made it.
I didn't think I was going to make it, but I made it.
So I was going up against
oh my God, what's his? Musselman.
Tom Musselman.
Tom Musselman who played at Kentucky.
Yeah, he can play.
And we were even after 11.
I was down two and I birdied 10 and 11 on them
on the upper.
And so then he
Birdie's 12, 13 and 16, I lost three down.
But I gave him a scare.
Yeah.
Not like you did Kevin Ward back in the day.
And then the next day, so I'm out.
And all of a sudden they say, hey, we're having another tournament tomorrow.
You want to play?
And I said, sure.
And I'm playing with Bracken.
No, Bracken won.
I was playing with guys that lost.
And I was two over going into eight on the lower.
And I hit a drive left, kind of short of the bunker over there.
Didn't catch it very good.
I'm just going to hit a rescue over the tree, get it up there, hit the tree.
I'm two over.
It's an atom up again.
And I birded the hole before.
I birded seven.
Good birded on seven.
That's unbelievable.
First one ever.
Tough one ever.
Five iron to about 10 feet.
Made it.
Yeah.
And so I'm trying to just, I can get it over that.
The tree's not that tall.
I hit the tree and nobody knows where it is.
We're looking all over for it.
So I said, okay, what do I do now?
You got to go hit it again.
from where, right where you were at?
I hit the tree again.
This time I see.
Same club?
Same club.
Nice.
So I find it and I got up, it was in the desert.
I had to chip it out in the fairway,
200 yards in.
The guy says, hey, that's 230 with the wind.
I hit the same club again.
Why not?
It's way left.
And Caddy, looking for it, looking for it.
Now, the guys are on my group,
we're already done playing the hole.
They're already done.
And they're up on the 19.
T-box and I ended up getting a 10, a 10, and then I birded the night hole. So I go 3, 10, 3.
And then on the 10th hole, I hit a great drive on the left a little bit. And I'm just,
okay, just play it out to that short area, left it, wind was blowing pretty hard. And I thought
I cleared that little patch, you know? This far from the grass, there's a bush that big.
I'm in the bush.
Yeah, where's that caddy?
Yeah.
Tanner, where the hell were you?
Yeah.
So I go up there and I go, well, I take a drop.
I mean, I'm already 20 over par.
I go, what the hell?
I'm going to get it out.
I swung the first time that went about that far.
I swung three more times in one second.
You know, the old,
finally got it out.
Got a nine.
What a day.
Three, three, nine.
That's, damn.
You don't see that often at the high at the elite level.
Needless to say, I didn't make the tournament.
It would have been a good match play round, though.
I would have been a matchplay, you would have won most of the whole.
You would have lost two?
No big deal, one three.
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Back to George Brett.
Well, last time you were here four years ago,
somehow we started talking about the worst golfer you've ever played with.
Langbine.
And it was Langbine.
Well, rumor has it very shortly after that.
Langbine.
You took a loss to Langbine.
No, that was beforehand.
That's not what I was.
No, Langbine beat me, and he was, because that's why I said Langbine without hesitation.
Langbine beat me one time at Silverleaf.
Well, this was a...
And I think I was out with you the night before or something.
Okay, now I'm going to get blind for it.
And I just did not feel good.
Maybe my back was acting up.
I don't know, but he beat me.
And I swear to God, 30 minutes after that round was over, I was getting calls from people I didn't know.
Hey, this is Tom from Minnesota.
I went to school with Langbind.
Did he really beat you today?
I swear to God, I got 50 calls.
I heard there was another time when it was a team game.
I believe you lost to him and Langbine and Taco at Whisperock.
Okay, well, it's a team game, big deal.
No, it counts.
Huh?
I mean, I heard you were into it,
hat backwards, spitting on your gloves like it was the World Series.
And there was, did you or did you not call the Royals
to tell them a possible press release could be coming out?
We got to get out of front of this, boys.
There's a smear campaign coming.
That is incredible that you call the Royals.
I think this guy might actually put a press release out.
We've got to get in front of this.
John actually played all 18 holes today.
Normally, you know, John, he doesn't play.
He played nine, ten holes.
But he actually played the whole time.
And we played with Granky, Zach.
And Zach, I tell you, he's playing good.
Granky is?
Yeah.
He's a good little player.
He's good.
He's one under today.
Like he says when he plays with me, he plays the Russ.
but lately he's been going up there and playing with some, you know, younger guys that hit it.
And he's been playing the tips.
But he's had two five unders.
Damn.
Not at whisper.
What?
No, two five under pars at other courses.
Okay.
At other courses.
And he's had one, this is the second time he shot 71.
He shot under par four times now.
Twice of them have been five under.
He's a good player.
He's a few times.
He's a strange bird.
I'd say that.
And he might can lead the club.
in fewest words per round, per round.
You'd say, talk a little shit on the first tee,
and then on nine you maybe add him up,
like, here's where we stand.
That's the only time to speak.
Oh, dude, I mean, you play them?
I've never played with him now.
I mean, he lived with you for a little bit.
You'd love him.
Oh, he's great.
He just beats his own drum.
He's really good.
Zach, call me.
We'll set it out.
And he just bought a place up in Flagstaff
for all you guys are members.
Yeah.
Okay.
Pine Canyon?
Shout out Pine Canyon.
What's the other one?
Forest Highlands?
He's there.
Okay. Langbine, one last thing on him.
Does the swing still looking like Ludvigs?
It depends. Sometimes when he's my partner, I'll say, John, John, just give me the old
Freddie couples.
And he'll, God, he's so smooth.
And then he'll say, okay, this time I'm going to give you Ernie Yells.
But a lot of times it looks like, God, I don't know who is.
Nobody on TV.
Yeah.
But you only see it once because he usually picks up.
We got a little modified E9 here since we've already done one with you four years ago, but this will, this will be a little fun.
I got so many different directions we could go with this, but as a weird.
You want to get weird out of the gang?
Yeah, rapid fire.
Yeah, it could be some stories.
Yeah, stories.
You know, our audience is a little younger, you know, 30 to 45, maybe some guys that have had some kids or maybe thinking about it.
Barstool guys.
Not that young.
But, you know, then eventually they have their kids and they might be going to get a vasectomy.
Okay. I'm in the market.
Hey, see, there doesn't that.
How do you let your wife know you're going to get one of those?
Well, I was playing golf.
Oh, God.
Probably 20.
Let me see.
Jackson's 32.
Probably 28 years ago, 27 years ago.
And I was going to spring training about four days later.
And we had three kids at the table.
and, you know, two in high chairs, one on a booster chair.
And I played golf that day at Kansas City Country Club,
and I was talking to a guy, and I just said, hey, you know,
how do you get a vasectomy?
Who do you go to?
You don't go to your orthopedic surgeon.
Who do you go to?
Dentist.
And the guy, you don't go to a dentist.
And he says, oh, you go to a urologist, and that's all I said.
And the next thing, you know, we get through playing.
and he goes, hey, I got the head of urology at KU Med Center, wants to talk to you.
So I go, sure, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, well, I'm thinking about getting one.
Well, you're free tomorrow.
10 o'clock.
And I have to be there at like 9.30, that's it.
You don't put me out?
Okay, fine.
Yeah.
So again, we have a few more beers, and I live a block from the entrance to Kansas City Country Club.
Oh, yeah, I probably had two or three.
beers, I'm going to drive a block home.
And they're sitting there having dinner with my kids and there's food everywhere.
Milk everywhere.
Just a shit show.
My wife says, what are you doing tomorrow?
I said, yeah, I don't know.
Oh, what do you got to go?
No, and then I swear to God, I said, oh, no.
Shit, I got a vasectomy at 10.
I almost forgot.
Swore to the God.
She says, what?
We haven't even talked about it.
And I says, you want to go through this for another?
two years?
Look, the guy had an opening.
Well, you can always reverse them.
What do you do tomorrow?
I don't know.
Oh, wait.
Oh, yeah.
I get my nuts.
So I did.
So I did, and I drove myself there.
And, you know, afterwards, they just give you a local.
They'd do it.
I stopped off and I got me a burger at Winsteads.
And they said, go ice it and don't do any exercising for three or four days.
And then I was going to spring training.
Well, God, I got down to spring training.
I felt great.
I go through batting practice the first day I'm there.
I wake up the next morning.
Bowling ball down there.
I was...
All the pounding, you know.
Man, I didn't do anything for three or four days except ice.
That's all I did.
Damn.
So that's not the correct way to get in a best up to me,
but that's how I did it.
You're free at 10?
Yeah.
Put me in.
I can drive myself.
I don't, can I eat anything?
Anything you want?
That is glorious.
Oh, that's good.
All right, give me this one here.
Georgie.
A fight breaks out.
Oh.
Okay?
We got your son Dylan going up against Mike Commodore.
How does it play out?
If it was on ice.
No, there's not ice is a real fight.
Bar fight.
You know, I've never seen Comey fight.
I've seen my son get really pissed.
And knowing Mike Commodore the way I do and watching them on YouTube when you pull up
Mike Commodore, you don't.
not see any assist.
You don't see any goals.
All you do,
all you do is fighting.
And Mike's record's about 500.
I think Dylan could maybe,
Dylan's a little younger.
Dylan's 30.
What is Dylan?
Yeah, Dylan's 30.
Yeah, Dylan.
This was a very popular.
I got to go,
I got to go Commodore,
just past experience.
He's a big animal of a man.
Dylan's a strong guy.
You're talking about your boy on the walls.
His mitts, you look at those
and like,
those can do some days.
Dylan, my son, when he was at KU, he was a bouncer at a bar there when he was 19.
That's good training.
Yeah.
I got to think he had to whoop some ass.
And I'm sure some things happened that I'd never found out about.
Sure.
Yeah.
All right.
We can set that up.
I'm going to go calm you, though.
Sorry, Duke.
All right, next one.
Obviously, when you talk about gambling on sports and everything and possibly throwing games.
Never do.
I know.
I know Pete Rose, obviously, everything that happened to him.
But do you think you should be banned from coaching the travel high school baseball team
because you wanted your team to purposely lose
so you could play golf on Sunday?
Was it the high school base?
It was any tournament that we played in
where if it was a tournament
and let's say you won a 10 o'clock in the morning game
and if you won that game,
you had a game at 4 o'clock in the afternoon
to come in third place.
And I was the coach, yeah, there's no way in hell
we were going to win that game.
You threw games.
Through games.
Unbelievable.
I throw games.
Just trot out some.
respect. Tomato can on the mound. The kids didn't know and the parents didn't know, but nobody was
pissed that I did it because the kids didn't even know if they won or lost after a game.
And what do you do sitting 22 miles away from home, your house at a complex with 30 fields,
and you have four hours between games. You're not going to drive home and drive back.
You're not going to go. I mean, it was just like, no, we're not going to win this game.
I can tell you your kids knew. No, they did. Yeah, because they're the ones who told me.
Oh.
Yeah, they didn't care.
They thought it was so you could play golf on Sundays.
No, they didn't care.
Who could blame you?
Who could blame you?
All right, I'll give you one here.
You weren't afraid to get a little riled up when you're in your playing career, right?
You had times where the temper would flare.
Give me your biggest freak out on the golf course.
Like, does that translate to the golf course?
Oh, no, no.
I'm to a point now.
Please, that.
in all honesty, I know I'm never going to be a great player, so why get mad? I laugh at bad
shots now. I don't, every once I'll yell, God damn it or something. But I don't, I will never get
mad and throw clubs, kick my bag or anything. But one time years and years ago, out in Palm Springs,
when I lived out there, we were playing the vintage. And it was when the vintage was just
getting built. There were a lot of empty lots. And I was playing so bad. And two of my
friends were laughing at me. And this is back in the day I was playing because I had a Wilson
bag and Wilson clubs because I used a Wilson baseball glove. And so I was on their staff and they
were paying me. And I got, I could just call my guy Jack Fetty. Jack, I needed a new set of
clubs. I lost mine. Sure, no problem. I lost mine. So I had Wilson balls and, you know,
Wilson glove. I had Wilson, the whole thing, my pro bag with my name on it. And so they were laughing at me.
I got pissed off and I got so mad.
We were driving back and there were some empty lots
because the vintage was being developed,
still selling lots.
And I remember to tell them those guys,
fuck you guys, fuck you guys.
I'm done.
I'm never playing golf again.
I stopped the cart,
grab my clubs and threw them in a vacant lot.
Just left them, left them.
I love it.
Left them.
Yeah.
You're only a phone call away from what he said.
And then about two days later, I wanted to play golf again.
I called Jack.
I said, Jack, I lost my club.
Somebody stole them.
Someone stole my shit.
About a week later, I get a new set of clubs.
Someone stole them, dude.
I acted like a child and threw them in an empty lot.
That's good.
Every golfer's been through that point where they want to throw their bag in a vacant lot, by the way.
Or maybe throw some dice at Sage Valley.
Whatever.
You have bad friends.
You have bad friends.
I'm just telling you right now.
God, we're playing some game.
I had, like, eight of us were down there.
And we're playing some dice game I've never heard of.
And I'm playing good.
And every time I would.
God, oh, God.
I got to take one more roll.
I would roll a certain number,
then you'd have to go back to where you would go up the ladder.
And one time I got so pissed,
I just threw the dice and it hit one of my buddies right here in the head.
Hit them in the head.
And we, of course, had more wine bottles and stuff on the table than anything.
We had great steak dinner that night at the house,
and it was just, to this day, they set me a trophy.
I have it at my house here,
and it's got two dice on it.
I don't know what the name of the game is.
It says,
World Champion,
such, such,
player, George Brett,
and it's a plaque.
Is it shut the box?
Is it called,
the game called shut the box?
I don't know what you roll.
You go up to 100,
and you can take a knee whenever you want.
But certain things you get to go again,
certain things you go to zero.
Yeah.
You go to zero.
If you roll doubles,
you get to go again.
Right.
There's all these different rules.
All these rules.
And I just got so pissed.
I threw him and I hit my buddy right in the head with him.
He went down.
Shouldn't have been standing there.
I get mad.
or playing dice than I do golf.
Yeah, I believe that.
Because I'm a good dice player.
Yeah, sounds like it.
A lot of skill.
Yeah.
All right, next one.
Who got more TV time during the playoffs this year?
You were Taylor Swift.
Total TV time.
Playoffs. Oh, oh, God.
I don't know.
I never saw the broadcast against the Yankees.
You know, you're on there for a while.
A lot.
You know Bob Costas.
I heard I was on there a lot.
I think I got more time than Taylor because they didn't show her much during the
during the Super Bowl.
No, they shot her once in the stadium, they booed her.
Yeah, who do you think they like more?
I'm more popular than Taylor School.
Of course you are.
In Kansas City?
Have you met her yet, being in Kansas City?
No. No?
You're not a Swifty?
No.
Well, I met her.
I went to one of her concerts 10 years ago when I met her with her dad.
I met her dad.
And they took me right there.
We watched her, but I never got close enough to say hi to her.
You think her and Trave are going to get married?
I think that's real love.
I am.
From what I see and what I hear, yeah.
Is that for forever?
No, I don't know.
I don't know.
Hey, you do weddings.
You could marry them.
Yes, I do.
Are you an efficient?
Yeah.
He's done several.
I was in the running for Colts.
Yes.
You gave Thomas Sulo over.
I did.
And I think Thomas Sulo started off like dearly beloved and he goes, that's my line.
Yeah.
And you know, that guy's, what was the guy's name that married you?
Peter Thomas Sulo.
Peter Thomas Sulo, whatever's name is, his dad or his dad?
or his grandfather
was my principal in high school
at El Sagano. Bob Kingston.
Yes. Yeah. Wow. He was my principal.
Wow. Peter Thomas Sulo
over George Ray, dearly beloved.
And he stole your line.
That's mine. That's beautiful.
Oh, my God. Man of the cloth.
I've got a thousand questions over here.
I'll give you just a little easy ball here.
How long, how old are you right now?
71.
71, I'll be 72 in May.
Okay.
How long do you think?
think you need to live to shoot your age?
I've already shot my age.
How many times?
Probably six.
Probably six or seven.
How old were you when you first did it?
70.
Damn.
Did you hit a lot of puts that you thought should have gone?
No, no, no.
I actually made them all that day.
Shit, I didn't know that, Georgia.
That's cool.
My home course in kids since par 70.
I would just say like, I bet you, I think you're approaching it.
Right day, right place.
Yeah, par 70.
Back cold.
So you already done.
I shot 69 a few times.
I shot 70 a few times this year.
Why wouldn't you?
So you don't need to live.
any longer. No. You're done. But that is a good question. Yeah, shit. I didn't know. You ever
shot your age? You bum ass? No, you know what's funny? I saw a cold couple days before the
senior championship at Whisper Rock and I go, are you playing in it? He said, George, I'm only 50.
I'm 39, you fuck. No, you're only 39? Yeah. He's not even a man yet.
God. You're not even a man. I'm just getting started. I swear to God, I thought you were
me and Gary played against each other growing up. We're shooting our age on nine,
On the red.
I did the other day in Shadow Creek.
I buried that shit.
So who got John Shadow Creek?
Are you the big roller that got John?
Come on.
He fires so much that they just let them on.
Well, that ain't because of the gambling.
It's just, you know, I know the right people.
Yeah.
Monty Montgomery.
By the way.
I take my kids to Vegas every year for the Chiefs Ritter game, and we always play
there.
They are adding lights to the entire golf course to where you can go in the summers.
I don't know if it would be year-round or not.
It would be cold in the winter.
But you can go play it at night, lit up like they did for the match.
even though the match is terrible, but that will be, that's nice.
All right.
I was told I have to ask you about the time you slid into first base during spring training.
Who have you talked to?
I told you.
You have bad friends.
Oh, God.
Is this a good story or no?
It's a funny story.
And I don't want to ever ask anything that you don't want to answer.
You know, I was probably, I was probably in my 20s.
No, God, no, I was in my.
I was probably 37, and we had a long road trip from Orlando to West Palm.
And we're playing the Braves.
And I think I was out too late the night before, and sure enough, you know, we got to drive all the way down there.
The bus probably left about 645, three-hour bus ride.
I get on the bus and I'm going home.
And you close your eyes, you wake up, you're there.
And you're on a bus, one bus.
30 guys. So you're not, I might have had two seats, but I don't know.
And I get there, we take our bed and practice and I'm just, I'm sweating.
I don't know. My God, this is going to be brutal.
Oh, well, suck it up, you know.
Sure enough, my first bat hit a fly ball I thought was going to drop.
And I rounded first and somebody caught it and I run back the dugout.
And I'm just, we had the third base dugout.
And I'm playing first.
I'm sitting at the dugout and going, well, I could either have a lost day or I can make something out of this day.
And so screw it.
I'm going to make something out of this day.
So the third out's over.
Man, I sprint to sprint from the dugout, sprint.
And throwing ground balls, the guy said, reach you up, rap, boom, boom, pull.
It was like I had 14 greenies in me and six cups of coffee.
You know, that's what I look like.
And all of a sudden, I get the attention of all these.
guy sitting by the first base dugout.
And the next thing you know, after the inning's over,
sprinted to the third base dugout.
Now the next inning, sprint out to the first base dugout.
Now they're all going crazy.
All these kids on spring break.
They're going nuts.
And I sprint back.
I go, watch this.
Oh, God.
The third inning comes, I'm running out there to go play defense at the bottom of the third.
I'm running as fast as I could.
I slide in the first and don't pop up slide.
Now everybody's going crazy.
Spring training.
Oh, yeah.
And then you play your six, seven innings.
Then they tell you to go run foul poles.
You know, you run from the left field line to the last foul pole.
Then you walk, and you do 10 of those.
And then I did 10 of those things.
And it was a hot, humid day, which Florida can be.
And so then I showered, got on the bus.
I didn't even hear the bus start.
I didn't hear the players get on the bus.
I was out cold and woke up when we pulled.
in the parking lot in Orlando.
Beautiful.
Smart.
I made something.
Rather than just going there and going through the motions
because you don't feel like playing,
man, I put on a show,
and I actually got a good day's work in.
Yeah, I like that.
And a good real sleep.
And you know what?
I guarantee some of those people that were at the game
or, hey, I was at a game in Palm Beach one time.
You should have seen this crazy guy, George Bright.
You ever heard of him?
He was sliding into first base when he was playing defense.
Yeah.
You got any more?
I got one.
Well, yeah, just kind of an open-ended one here.
I think we talked about it a little bit last time,
but the pranks on the road, you were a big known for him.
Give me one of your favorite ones that you pulled.
I know there's a few good ones.
Pranks?
Yeah.
Like on players?
Yeah.
Like in the dugout, locker room, et cetera.
Our trainer, Mickey Cobb, he had polio.
And I would trip him once a year.
As he's walking through the dugout.
I would wait till we were having a good game.
He was in a good mood.
I would go out with him all the time.
We'd go out with him.
He was like one of my buddies to go out
and have a few beers with after the game.
And we were playing in Texas one time
and they had Esther Tuf from the dugout.
Texas gets pretty hot.
We had the old Arlington Stadium.
And so he's walking down.
He's doing his little, you know, thing like that.
I'm sitting next to somebody.
I go, watch this.
And I stick my foot out.
He goes down.
George, you're the worst.
Close down.
He goes down.
And he comes up, he's got tobacco juice on him.
He's got sunflower seeds stuck on his arm.
He's got his hat's off, you know, and stuff.
He goes, God damn it, God damn, George, that's not fucking funny.
And then he just started laughing his stuff.
So once a year, you do it.
I would trip him once a year.
How old was this guy?
Oh, God.
He was probably five years old than I was.
Oh, older than you.
Yeah.
Nice.
Okay.
Speaking of tobacco juice.
That's a good frank.
Speaking of tobacco juices,
do you ever used a nice bottle of wine
to maybe use as a spitter?
A lot was still full?
Well, once in a while.
You get them mixed up?
Maybe a nice little trip to Hawaii with Rush Limbaugh.
Maybe.
82 Petrus is a spitter?
Well, it was, I thought we were done with that one.
We had a bunch of wine bottle.
When you'd travel with Rush,
we'd have Chateaulafit Rauchal,
Patruse, Margot's,
Hope Brioens.
That's all it was.
He'd bring five cases for a week.
And so you're sitting,
around dinner table all the time.
And a lot of times I had to cook the steaks at Harley's house because I'd like to cook.
And Mike was inside doing stuff.
So you're out there and you're cooking and you're going out there and you have a few beers
at the golf course and you're just sipping on some good wine and you go, you're drinking,
you know, really good shit.
And kind of next thing you know, there was about that much left in the bottle.
And it was maybe a $5,000 bottle of wine.
I was told over.
We had an 82 patrus and it.
82 Lafitte that you decided to spit in and one of your buddies drank it.
Oh, somebody drank it?
Oh, yeah, that happens.
That happens once in a while, too.
That happens once in a while, too.
That's a tough one, too.
Who drank it?
Cummins?
Taco.
Taco drank you well.
Well, you drink a spitter.
It's nice to be paired with a $10,000.
Exactly.
Or whatever the hell it is.
Yeah.
That's an expensive spitter.
That's what life's good.
Give you that.
All right, last one, a little bonus ball.
I actually got two bonus balls for you.
Last one, do you have any more?
Bonus it up.
This is because we were very well aware.
You've been very open.
I was like you're a bachelor for a very long time.
You got married very late.
39.
Is it true the first engagement you ever ring you ever bought was fake?
Yeah.
Smart.
It was just,
it was like my intentions are good.
I was telling my wife that.
My intentions are good.
But let's just wait one more year.
So you just bought a fake one.
She opened it.
I went to the mall in Palm Springs and I bought this Kubrick's Arconium.
It was a pretty good size one.
Did she know?
Did she tell her or no?
Well, she opened it.
I said, hey, just want to let you know after she saw it.
Her eyes went like this.
Well, it's not real, but my intentions are good.
Man, that sliding glass door to the golf course open and that fucking ring went flying out of the golf course.
Somebody found that ring a couple days later and goes, oh, my God.
Yeah.
That's good.
It's a good.
It was a trial.
It was a trial.
It was a trial.
I wanted to see how mad she could get at me.
And she's never gotten that mad in 32 years of marriage.
That's smart to test that out before you leap in.
But I thought it was a nice gesture.
Hey, honey, I would like to marry you, but we don't have time before I go to spring training.
Spring training started like three weeks.
But I got you this nice easy.
We ended up getting married in two.
And it takes longer to buy a fake one than a real ring.
Yeah, it makes sense.
I went down to the mall, Palm Springs, picked her up something nice.
All right, I have a feeling I know what you're going to answer because you kind of have to.
but all right, who wins a championship first,
Royals or Chiefs, the next championship?
I'm going to say, well, I have to say the Royals.
I'm employed by them still.
I think they're going in the right direction.
We went from 56 games winning two years ago to 86.
I think our team should be a little bit better this year than last.
I think we have one of the best players in all of baseball and Bobby Witt.
I think Kansas City Chiefs have one of the best players
in the NFL and Patrick Malm.
You know, you think about it, a small town like Kansas City in the middle of nowhere,
you maybe have the best quarterback and the best position player in all the baseball in a really small town.
So, yeah, it'll be interesting to see if we can compete what,
continue to build on what we did last year.
Believe me, guys, I never, never in my wildest dreams thought that we would enter the playoffs
and let alone take the Yankees
and scare the shit out of the Yankees
and the playoffs to go to the World Series.
I never thought that was possible, but we did.
And our boys showed that, hey,
they can play in the big lights.
They can play.
And I think getting in that situation,
again this year, hopefully,
it'll even be better.
Well, George, you're the man.
Always fun catching up with you.
Likewise.
The best.
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I mean, he's just an absolute national treasure.
He's got nine gazillion stories.
I mean, he's lived in an incredible life.
The vasectomy story is going up there, some of my favorite George Brett.
What are you doing tomorrow?
Oh, wait, I forgot.
I got a vasectomy.
Getting my nuts clip.
Sorry, Doc had an opening at 10.
Wanted to just slide on in there.
Like getting his oil changed or something.
By the way, 24 hours before that, didn't even know where to go to get a vasectomy.
Nor what kind of doctor?
Yeah.
Who do I go over this?
I don't know.
Oh, I found him.
Good news.
going tomorrow. He's a beauty man. I'm tapped. I love that man so much. He is all
time. I hope y'all enjoyed that as much as we did. Don't really know what we talked about.
It was just a bunch of bullshit for an hour, but it was very fun and a lot of laughs.
They don't make them quite like that anymore. You know what I mean? He's a reminder of the good old
days. And so leave some more good news. If you're going to be in Hilton Head, in the Hilton Head area,
or anywhere out near the RBC Heritage, join us in Zone at the Bank, Hilton Head's Beer Garden for a special
night of golf, laughs in good times. It's subpar live at the bank happening Wednesday, April 16th at
6 p.m. Eastern on Hilton Head Island. We'll be recording subpar live with all of you, plus there will be
drink specials, giveaways, and more. Whether you're a PJ tour caddy, a fan, or just in town for
RBC Heritage, this is the place to be presented by zone and set in the perfect spot to kick back.
Hilton Head's beer garden, don't miss it. Once again, Wednesday, April 16th, 6 p.m. Eastern time. We will be
there and possibly with a special guest.
It is very possible.
Even if you don't like subpar and don't even like golf, you like drinking beer.
Come on.
We'll be there.
I like all those things.
So we'll be there.
Once again, April 16th at the bank Hilton Head's Beer Garden.
All right.
Thank you all so much for listening.
And we'll talk to you on next week's subpar.
