Subpar - Jeremy Roenick Interview: The best golfers from the NHL and the most memorable fights of his career

Episode Date: June 9, 2020

On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar, NHL Legend Jeremy Roenick joins former PGA Tour pro Colt Knost and his close friend and on course rival Drew Stoltz for an exclusive, in-studio, interview. The nine-time All-Star goes in-depth on which NHL players are the best golfers, the most memorable fights of his career, and which current Tour players could use some hockey style tough love.

Hello world. Welcome to this week's episode of golf subpar. I'm Colt Nost. As always joined by the one, the only, the sleazy man, Drew Stoltz. How are we doing, Drew? Strong to quite strong. Good to be back in the studio with you, Colty. Yeah, and golf is back, more importantly. Charles Schwab Challenge at Colonial is getting underway, a place that's very near and dear to both of our hearts. Colonial Country Club, you've done okay around there. I just have a little bit of course history there being that I grew up. Didn't grow up. That's not right. I went to college right there in Fort Worth, lived about a eight iron from the number 12 green love that place one of my favorite tournaments of the year to watch uh great place for the pj tour to make a little comeback yeah and the field is absolutely star-studded we'll get into that a little bit later but first we got to get into a little funny money and you have a wonderful story from colonial i got a good i got a little story there so like i said when school

at tc u grew up right or went to school right there right there right by fort worth had a friend of mine we used to go out there and practice in the in the evenings late evenings right so i'd go out there we were hit some balls one day my buddy grabs me he's like hey man you want to just go the back nine real quick i was like yep absolutely hop in a cart we're gonna go cruise the back nine real quick right for it gets dark hop in play 10 we're going to number 11 which as you know dead straight par 5 long hole we couldn't reach it we both tee off hit it we both lay up to roughly the same spot right i hit my shot onto the green my buddy's sitting there standing in the middle of fairway out of nowhere from the 12th t a ball comes flying flying right by his head dude i mean this thing couldn't be more

than a yard from putting this kid down, right? Comes whizzing by. We both, like, pull back like, oh, my God, what the hell was that? My buddy is pissed. He's like, who the hell was that? There was no four. There was no nothing. Who is this?

Like, he was ready to throw down. He was a sissy. He wasn't going to do anything, but he was acting like he was going to do something. So all of a sudden, all right, he regroups, gets back over the ball, hits his shot onto the green. All of a sudden, we see a cart coming over the hill there, right? On number 12, coming down to us. And I'm looking at the car.

It's like, oh, this dude's about to get an earful from my boy right now. car gets a little closer a little closer. It's like, oh, that's a pretty big dude there in the driver's seat. I'm interested to see what my guy does here with this. Closer, closer pulls up. Guy gets out of the cart, Toby Keith. And my buddy looks at it. He's like, hey, hey, guys, so sorry about that, man.

I'm really bad off the tee. You know, apologize. Did that come close to me? My buddy was like, oh, dude, we didn't even notice it. It's not even a problem. Actually, it's over there right there. I gave you a nice little lie. It's all teed up.

It gives a little small talk. Hey, all right, guys. Appreciate it, man. Good luck to y'all going forward. See you guys later. We drive off and I was like, you're the biggest, you're the biggest sissy in the history of what happened to all that tough talk. You don't mess. You don't mess with the country boys from Oklahoma.

He is a big man. He would put a whipping to you. He loves golf. But yeah, that's a good little story. I'm glad you didn't die going around Colonial Country Club. That had been really tragic. But speaking of another big man, we had him in studio this past week. Mr. Jeremy Ronek joined us and he is an absolute beauty.

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Love it. Have a lot of time to myself, so it's been a lot of golf. I think a lot of us have had a lot of time to ourselves, right? I'm good. It's glad to be with you guys. Glad to have you here. We're going to get into a ton of stuff with you tonight, but first things, how is the game? You're playing a lot.

How's the game? The game is actually pretty good. We were chatting outside with some of the young bucks, but, you know, I've been trying to get back in the shape a little bit after the first month of drinking my ass off and eating during the stay, the lockdown and stay at home and all that stuff.

And kind of got a little disgusted with myself. So I'm trying to slim down. I hit the ball a lot better. You look skinny. I'm feeling skinny. Yeah, I've lost about nine pounds over the last two weeks. I found it. You found it?

You found it? By the way, give it back to me right now. because my game is slipping a little bit. It's strong. My driving game is really good. I can't make a put to save my life right now. That's, you know, I'm hitting a lot of greens. It's putting.

So I'm literally shooting 74, 73, 75 with one birdie round. I just can't seem to make birdies right now, but I'm striking the ball really good. Got some good tournaments coming up this summer. So, you know, it's what I do now. I don't have a job. I love it. What tournaments you got this summer? Where are you playing?

So I'm playing in, I'm actually playing in one of the Arizona senior events this year. Yeah, I'm 50 years old now. You are 50, by the way. I can play in a senior event now, so I'm going to try to do that. I'm playing in a PJ sanctioned tournament out in Pittsburgh. It's the Frankfehrer Invitational, which is pretty cool, the Pittsburgh Field Club, which is a bitch of a course to play. And, you know, a couple others that I'm trying to get into. And by the way, I have a couple of member guests, by the way, that are more fun than going to Lake Tahoe. So I'm going to be looking forward to playing a couple of those. That's the tour to be on as the member guy. I'm out of golf.

been out for a long time. Colts recently out. He's about to hit the peak of his career. The member guest circuit, if you get the right ones, so good. They're the best tournaments in the world. This one that I'm going to is in Michigan. It's Indian Wood golf course. It's a four day. First day is, first day is best ball. Second day is alternate shot. Third day is scramble, and fourth day is both balls count. Ooh, touch them all. Touch them all. And it is a drink, eat gamble fest. I think the Calcutta gets up to be. be like about a hundred grand. Oh, that's what I've been telling you, dude.

You're a four-day member guest. You better get your liver ready. Not to mention, not to mention you have a skins game on Wednesday to get for practice round. You know, if you get in there on Tuesday, you want to go see the course and play the course, you're playing, six days of hard boozing, hard, you know, playing, gambling, everything. It's Monday, Monday I check in the AA for a week. Yeah, all you PGA tour players think it's tough to play like three, four weeks in a

go play a member guest for four or five straight days. Get on that member guest circuit where you're playing two a month and you're just drinking seven days straight till you can't. So good. It's so fun. Yeah. It's good. Colt, you are going to love the retired golf life, dude. You're built for this tour.

Carts. By the way. I kill it in carts. I'm a big cart guy. Carts music booze, that's real golf. That is real golf. Yeah. I mean, anybody can play sober.

Sober walking, catty. What's sober golf? Sober and sleep, exactly. Yeah. What's a drink of choice on the golf course for JR? So I am a vodka. guy love a vodka soda at times I will I will go into a little tequila fresca depends on what kind of carry device I have if I have a you know a non-see-through

thermos that I'm drinking out of it'll be a tequila fresca which is one of the best which one of the best drinks I think on the golf circuit but if I can't find anything I'll just fill up a little water bottle with a with a little bit of vodka drink it straight and then then I'm then that's that's But then I'll play the rest of the way. I'll do it before I tee off. Just get that nice little, that first hit buzz, and then I'm good for the rest of the day.

Yeah, it just calms the nerves more than that. For sure. Got to have it. Well, I was doing a little research on you earlier, and I came across your book, shoot first, pass later, which I think would also be the name of Sleason. Well, I got to come up with a new name for my book.

Jesus. Thanks, J.R. It's a son of a bitch. I don't know if that's real true in my, in my world, in my life. I'm shooting all the time, not pass and ever. But, you know, that was my second.

book that I did, my first book was pretty successful. It was a locker room book. I spoke like it was in the locker room, swore like it was in the locker room, told stories like it was in the locker room. Actually, Sports Illustrated did a numbers comparison issue that talked about numbers. And it said in the Sports Illustrated, it said, Jeremy Roanick says the F word 519 times in his book, that's five more than 50 Shades of Gray says the F word in his book. So I guess I beat 50 Shades of Gray of saying the F-bomb in my book, which is a lot of fun. But I mean, that's how hockey guys are. That's how, well, that's how golfers are, too.

That's just how you talk. Well, that's, I mean, that's how you should talk if you want to give the fans the real perspective. Unfortunately, there's too many people who are chicken shit that don't actually really want to talk the way that people want to hear you talk like you're in the locker room. Or if you're in tour in the locker room or, you know, you're talking with your buddies on the golf course. They're too afraid to sugarcoat it and they're afraid that they're going to get in trouble or that people are going to look at them differently or they're not going to like them. But, you know, I'm in a position now that I can say whatever the fuck I want and not give a shit what other people think. I'm well said. And we're glad to have you on the podcast at this exact time.

But what was the response to that book? Was there blowback like, hey, JR's too vulgar. It's too much. Or were people like, hey, it was great. I mean, I sold over half a million copies and did an amazing job with my ghostwriter, and people seemed to love it. I got a lot of good feedback, which led me to the second book, which is more of a kind of a perspective of after hockey being an analyst,

working in TV type of mentality looking back. I don't think I'll write another book, but as of right now, I'm happy. Keep shooting, keep not passing. Correct. That would be the third. Correct. Yeah, that's right. Exactly.

Yeah. But I want to go back to the beginning when you started hockey at a very young age, I believe four years old. Who was kind of your idol growing up? What made you want to play the game? So I grew up in Boston and, you know, during the 70s and Rick Middleton was my idol. I actually moved around a lot after Rick Middleton and along with Rick Middleton was Gordy Howe. I had a really cool experience with Gordy Howe when I was seven years old.

He dumped snow under my head while watching press. I thought that was the coolest thing that ever happened. You know, there's like 100 kids watching practice, the Hartford Whalers practice on the glass, and Gordy Howe dump snow on my head and winked at me and, you know, kind of gave me that, you know, oh my God, it's just me and Gordy Howe, you know, he just acknowledged me. That was the coolest thing. And it was nothing for him, but for me, it made a lifetime memory and a lifetime story that I'm telling you guys now. Had the opportunity to tell Gordy, you know, the story.

He just loved it. But that kind of, it really inspired me. and he was the guy that I really looked after, both on and off the ice, the way he acted. Yeah, I read that story, and it really kind of inspired you to treat fans that way. 100%. And it's amazing to me because you see so many, you know, young superstars nowadays that kind of don't give the time for the fans. Assholes. There's a lot.

There you go. There's too many assholes in sports right now that think because they play a sport or because they make a lot of money playing sports that they're better than anybody else. And, I mean, I can't tell you how many times I've seen athletes come off the field, come off the court with the kids with their fingers with their hands out you know wanted to say hi and they walk by and not even acknowledge them not even give them a fist bump or a high five or just walk right on by i've seen i've seen athletes be asked by kids to sign an autograph and they say no it it it pisses me off to no end because what everybody has to realize in sports is that the fan

creates and allows sports to be professional. It's them spending the money to come watch you play, to fill the stadiums, come to the golf courses, watch on television, whatever the case may be, that makes sports sports. If it wasn't for them, for us, it would just be a normal old men's league with a designated beer guy at our local arena down here.

That's it. So to me, you have to acknowledge the fan, you have to thank the fan, you have to know that we respect and appreciate that they're there. And any time that you can stop and sign an autograph, anytime that you can take a picture, anytime that you can say hi and answer a couple questions, it doesn't take much.

But it comes back to you in droves, and I always tried to make sure. I mean, I used to stick my hand through the camera hole during commercial breaks, take popcorn out of a kid's bag and eat it, right? You know, he's shocked that I just did it. Take a hat off a kid's head and put it on top of my helmet and skate around while we're waiting for commercials

to end. Those little things are going to allow these kids a memory and a story that they will remember forever. And, you know, when you have the ability to make that kind of impact on somebody and you don't do it, shame on you. And that kid will remember that story for the rest of his life. Why do you think like modern day athletes, not just hockey, but like other sports in general, why is that, why are they not that same, have that same mindset? I think a lot of things happen. I think they lose, I think a little perspective and respect of the history of the game. one thing that will allow you to to separate yourself from a lot of people is money and nowadays in the sporting world people making millions and millions of dollars I mean basketball players are

making 50 million dollars a year hockey players are making 10 12 13 million a year so on and so you can go on down the line I think when you have that and especially today I truly believe that the millennial, the kids of this age that have grown up being coddled, being, you know, coddled and pushed along in social media and being able to, you know, pretty much get away from real life and not be able to communicate, to be able to have a face-to-face conversation because they've been on a phone, been on a computer. They really lose the perspective of communication. They lose the perspective of real life. How did you get there?

How did the game grow? And money is great for everybody, but they also lose the perspective of that there's other people that are not making that kind of money that work hard every day. And we don't have the luxuries or they don't have the luxuries that professional athletes do. And they forget that perspective of when they were in that situation. And unfortunately, they have that, I'm better than you attitude because of it, because they play a sport that they think, you know, that they're better.

And they lose that, that respect, not only of other players, but of the history of the game. Yeah, but I feel like for the most part, like most hockey dudes get it. Like, they're the cool guys. They're the guys I love to go hanging with. They don't have a beer after the game or many. They love to play golf. They love to gamble. They love to just talk shit and have a great time.

Yeah. What is it about hockey that brings this out? You know, it's a great point. And I'm biased, but I'm not biased. I've been around. I think hockey players are the most respectful. they are the most caring, the most approachable, and the most humble athletes that are out there, especially for major sports.

I think they grow up, you know, blue collar. I think they grow up playing in Canada, playing for nothing. You know, their parents were middle class, worked hard to put them on the ice because it's not a cheap sport. It's a sport that you need to have money to play. so that respect is there and you know I seriously think that it's how you're brought up and it's the culture of hockey

when you have a lot of guys that have kind of grown up kind of similar you make each other accountable because if a guy steps out of line in the locker room NHL locker room you're going to get your ass kicked you're going to get called out by your teammates 100% for sure there will be fights on ice there will be fights in the locker room you will be told by many guys that either you shape up or you're not on this team.

So it's the culture kind of that keeps everybody kind of humble. And the culture of hockey, I find it very interesting because culture of hockey, like, fighting is part of the sport, right? Like, that's what I've only been to a handful of hockey games in my life. I've stood up more during the fights than I did for any part of the rest of the game, right? And that's just like accepted. But if you get to the NBA, NFL, whatever it is, a fight is like the biggest deal in the world, suspensions, fines, all that stuff.

Why is it that hockey, the dudes are the best dudes in the world, they're the cool. guys around. I got a bunch of friends, the same way. Why is that allowed in hockey and every other sport is like, hey, you are suspended for half the season and you're fine, a bazillion dollars? I don't know the exact answer to this question. By the way, again, the culture of hockey goes back to where fighting was accepted, protecting the top players. It's a very physical sport. It's a very demanding sport. It is an aggravating sport. And remember, we're playing the most physical, fastest sport with weapons in your hands. right and anger and frustration mounts like in a second in a hockey game so when you're in a

situation where you have a stick in the hand you're mad you're angry and you're not thinking the next thing that happens is a stick across the head or you know something happens violent with a with a stick in your hand so fighting just became one of those things where real men are going to decide their differences and drop the gloves go at it for a little while and take five minutes and go back. It's always been in the game, and I think, you know, fighting has kind of changed now. It's definitely diminished tremendously in the game. I think it's probably down like 60% over the last couple years. Is that good or bad? Depends who you ask. I mean, I'm asking Mr. Jeremy Ron. I love the fights. I mean, I love fight. I had over 40 fights in my career. I, you know,

whether I got beat up or not, I just loved the adrenaline. I love the rush. I love the fans enjoyed it. I think it's important because I was a top guy. And if we didn't have fights, I mean, guys would take liberties with me left, right and center. And when you're taking liberties of guys slashing the ankles, punching you in the face, hitting your, you know, doing a lot of dirty, cheap shit to you, it gets where it gets tiresome. So if you don't have those guys protecting, you know, the fact that and keeping guys accountable for what they do on the ice, it can get pretty hairy out there on the ice. Go ahead, Cody.

Other than fighting, what's the thing that you think's changed the most? Because I remember, like, I watched that movie, Kelly Chase was involved in Ice Guardians, I believe, which was incredible. Because, I mean, you had a guy to protect the superstars. Nowadays, it doesn't seem like there is that. Yeah. No, like I said, the tough guy is a dinosaur now. It's exempt from the game.

There's no more designated tough guys. If you cannot play the game, you're not playing the game. If you're a fighter, you've got to be able to play the game at a high level. So, you know, those guys are extinct, but it's, you still have a lot of guys that are tough as nails that can play the game and we'll drop the gloves and you'll see a good, good fight. I think the game now is more speed, it's more agility, it's more talent. These kids are bred from seven years old to play the game. I don't think there is mentally tough or physically tough, but they're way more talented. So it's the speed and agility and talent that's changed.

so much that these guys have the ability to really bring you out of your seat in a in a talent level not so much the fighting level like we used to do back in the early 90s you said you were involved in 40 fights plus when you're in the NHL anyone that stands out to you in particular whether you whoop somebody's ass or got your ass whoop that like when you think of fighting like that's what comes to mind well I I fought Bob Probert twice it wasn't much of a fight it ended really quick and he's probably known as one of the best fighters of all time I thought Marty McSorily, who was Wayne Gretzky's protector for so many years. I learned a valuable lesson with Marty McSorley.

This was my second year in the league. It might have been my first. He was coming up the boards, and I fucking ran him so hard. I hit him so hard on the boards. Perfect check. Hit him right in the chest. He went straight down, and I stood over him. My legs, he was in between my legs.

I was looking down on him, and it was almost like I was bragging by the stair I was giving him. And I remember turning around to skate away, and all of a sudden I felt his hand on the back of my my check on the back of my neck and he pulled me around I turned around and right before I can drop my gloves and I can hear everybody on the bench all my teammates going no don't do it next thing you know bang he hits me in the forehead so hard that I went black everything went black for a split second and I'm trying to grab them just to hold on so another another punch doesn't come to me but I could remember the blackness and and not being able to see anything for a few seconds and knowing that I just did something that I should not have done,

and I've never done that again. Colts his shit his pants, brother. When you grab me, by the way, I'm not comfortable. We might have to take a break for a second. That's a regroup right now. But you mentioned Wayne Gretzky. Obviously, in golf, there's Tiger Woods, and in my opinion, we'll never see another Tiger Woods.

Will we ever see another Wayne Gretzky in the game of hockey? I think not in terms of the point production that Wayne Gretzky produced. I think Wayne Gretzky was so far ahead of the game back in the 80s. he was the smartest, still the smartest player in the history of the game, and I don't think there'll ever be a smarter player. I mean, Cindy Crosby might be close, but Wayne Gretzky was the smartest player and just student of the game of anybody's ever seen.

So he was so far ahead of everybody else, I mean, being able to get 216 points, 94 goals, we're probably not going to see that again. But Connor McDavid right now, I think, is probably the best talented player I've ever seen in my life. I mean, from top end speed to what he can do with the puck to his ability to dominate a game. Nobody does things with the puck at the level and the speed that this guy does under control in the history of the game. So talent-wise, yeah, we'll see a lot of guys better than Gretzky, but not a guy who is able to dominate point-wise the way Wayne Gretzky did.

And he plays for Edmonton, Drew. The Oilers. The Oilers. Edmont is not claiming to be a hockey savant. Plephorough up. I got to explain things to him a little bit when we come to hockey. Spell this all out for me. Yeah.

I'll chime back in when we get to some golf. We do have to get to. So you and Mike Medano, same age, growing up together. Obviously, he was the first pick. You were the eighth. Y'all had quite a rivalry when you all were playing together. Big time. What was that like?

So we actually grew up with Mike. He was from Michigan. I was from Boston. There was always that clash of who had the best hockey. Was it Massachusetts? Was it Michigan? Was it Minnesota? You know, growing up, we were playing on USA teams,

especially 14 years old, 15 years old, all these young national teams where it was always in the scouting, always in the U.S. ranks, you know, who's better, you know, Jeremy Roanick or Mike Medano. So there was always that competition between us, right? When we're on the team, we're going over to Europe playing for a junior team. It's like, okay, you know, who's going to have more points, Ronick or Medano, or National World Juniors, who's going to have more points? So for me, Mike Medano is the best U.S. player to me that's ever been born, ever played.

one of the most beautiful skaters, one the most talented guys ever. And I always had to watch this, right? He was always, to me, he was always better. So when I played against him, he was my, he was my, my leveling stick, right? So when I played him, I wanted to beat his ass so bad. I wanted to win so bad. I wanted to outplay him so bad. A lot of times, you know, physically I would take my liberties with him,

um, try to make sure that I would win anyway. I mean, I got suspended for two games because I hit him from behind one time. I got my jaw broken because I knocked him out behind the net. You know, I did so many things to Mike Medano because I respected him so much, but admired him so much, but hated him so much because he was always better than me. So it's that kind of love, that love-hate relationship that you just can't, you can't break away from it when you see him. That's a funny story at the end of my career, you know, I've taken so many liberties with Mike and, you know, we had that kind of a friction relationship, after knocking him out and having everything that happened in 98 and hitting from behind in 2004. But in 2008, 2009, we're playing, I'm playing against him in Dallas.

And he's going into the corner to get a puck. And I'm coming behind him. And he knows I'm behind him, right? And he's like, oh, shit. So right before we get to the corner, I went, heads up, Mike, I'm right here. Mike, I'm right here. Heads up, heads up, heads up. And I kind of grab them, kind of rub them off into the boards.

and, you know, we go on. I mean, I'm 39 years old right now. You know, getting ready to retire. He's for the same age. And we're skating up the ice, back up the ice. He comes behind me and goes, who are you? And what did you do at Jeremy Rona? What just happened there?

What just happened there? I'm like, I'm too old to be hitting you anymore, Mike. You're too good for me. And I've kind of walked away. But, you know, I have the utmost respect for him. And I seriously think that he's the best, best U.S. player ever. How ridiculous is it? Mike Madano?

He's obviously one of the best to ever play. Fastest. Incredible golfer. Awesome. Good, good, good, good, I understand why you want to kick the shit out of it. There's no question about it. Seriously, he's got everything, right?

He does. He was married to a Hollywood celebrity. You know, he's got the, he's in the Hall of Fame. He won a Stanley Cop. He's got everything that everybody dreams of having is growing up as a young kid and a young athlete. But he's a great guy, and you're right. He's got one of the most beautiful golf swings of all time. His golf swing is up there with pro-level golfers,

and he's crazy about the game. and he's a lot of fun to play with, but his golf game is over now because I think he's getting ready to have his fifth child. He's got five kids. He's going to have five kids under six years old, so his golf game is gone. So I used to play a ton of golf with him. And I was like, if you put Mike Madano on the range at a PJ tour event and just let people that don't, if there was no names, and you saw him, they'd be like, man, that guy's probably really, really good. Yeah. He's unbelievable on the driving range. He sucks on the golf course, though. I tell him that every day. The worst thing you've ever seen. Mental midget. He is. I don't, you know, he's always played really

well with me, but the two guys that I love playing with to have the best swings, Brett Hall has one of the most gorgeous golf swings, and he just doesn't give a shit about anything. So he's got the perfect golf mentality, and he's probably one of the best golfers I've ever played with, too, but the golf mentality, but you're exactly right. If they were on a range with pros, you would have no idea their hockey players. He was my member, member partner a handful of years ago, and we were pretty good friends, but this was kind of us, like, really getting to know each other. And like it was, we were two holes in and he would hit a bad shot. And like, every swing he made for the rest of the day, he was like,

yo, do you see anything going on? Like, what do I got right here? I was like, dude, you're perfect. What are you asking about? Like, you're fine, just hit the ball. He freaks out. No, he definitely, he's a perfectionist, right? He wants perfection.

And he has a golf coach. He has a swing coach. And he works on his game so much. I don't know how he does. I just go to, I just go play. I screw the range. The range only puts things in my hands. head. He needs your water bottle out there before he tees off. Yeah, he needs some of the tone his back.

He's wired differently. He's a guy that's high strong. He's way quieter, way more timid, way more subdued. You know, he's he's he's one of my favorite guys that I've ever played with and played against and you know, I consider him a friend. But, you know, he's he likes his alone time. He's got his family time. So we don't see each other as well. What's your golf matchup like with him? Because you guys are both really, really good players. That's got to be a, well, I'm. I'm usually ahead of them. I finish ahead of them in Tahoe every year. I mean, that's where we play with each other the most is in Tahoe.

And you know, the last 10 years, he's probably beaten me one time in the last 10 years. What's the hockey hierarchy in terms of like golf wise? Who's the best? Like, there's a lot of good hockey players. Who do you? Like past or present? Like past players, guys that are playing in the celebrity circuit and stuff now. What's the ranking system?

I think, I think Brett Hall is the best. He's good. Yeah, Brett Hall is the best. I would put myself. You're right there. I put myself at second. Grant Fear is a really good golfer. Mario Lemieux is a real good golfer.

Pierre LaRouche, who's a little bit older now, but he's a phenomenal golfer. Ray Whitney's a good golfer. Whitney's a wizard, man. Witts is great. He's a kid for me at Phoenix Open this year. He's the sneaky is. Actually, Witts is probably better than me. I'll put Witt's at second.

That guy could move a ball with the best of them. So I'm going to put, I'm going to put Witty. I'll tell you a young kid that's good, this young kid for the coyotes, Clayton Keller. Clayton's got a beautiful swing, doesn't he? He can hit it. We probably play it up with him in Silverleaf, right? Have you played with him there?

Oh, yeah. He's just fluent. That guy's got a lackadaisical, beautiful right down the line swing. Just nothing seemed to bother him. I actually took him on up at Wicopaw earlier this year, maybe about a month and half ago. And we went right down to the 18th hole, and I got him on the 18th hole. But he gave me everything that I can handle.

He's got that new big contract. Take all of it. I'm trying to get, my son was actually supposed to play with them today, but they're closing Silver Leaf early because of all of this shut down closer shit. I got one more last hockey question for you. Okay. If you're, obviously you're a big student in the game still. What player today reminds you of Jeremy Roanick back when you're playing?

None. None. I've had this question asked. God, I had one, I had a player in mine now. I feel stupid. No, but it's a great question. And I ever, I feel I have a great answer like I do for most questions that have brought to me. Yes. You can tell I like to talk.

I like the none answer. Keep going, bro. Zero. Zero people. I love this question because it's asked of me a lot. And this is, and I've had actually people to have tried to decipher this with me to try to kind of break down players today and how we played in the 90s, how I played and how they play now. So I love to crush people when I played. I loved hitting so much.

I would, I remember every first shift I would run around. and try to hit somebody as hard as I possibly can, and I would target the head, I would target the chest, and I would hit to hurt. And I did it a lot. A lot of times I hurt my own self because I'd go out of my way to try to play physical. I mean, Mike Keenan built that into my head

to be a physical player. Scored a lot of goals, 500 goals. You know, only four Americans have ever done that. I was a third. Over 700 assists. That's a pretty good playmaker. I have over 15,600 penalty minutes, which is a shit ton of penalty minutes.

minutes for somebody that scores that amount of points. So when you take all of that together, when Brendan Shanahan scored a lot of goals, he was tough, but he didn't hit as much as I did. I don't want to say my answer now. Alex Ovechkin is physical, hits a lot, not the playmaker I was. See, that was one of mine. Better goal score, but not a playmaker, not as good a defensive player that I was. You know, I think my all-around game, I think, well, I don't think.

My all-around game was better than Obetkin. He's just probably the best goal scorer that the game has ever seen. That's true classic goal score. But, I mean, Jamie Ben at one time, maybe. He hit a lot. What I have written down right here. Jamie Ben. Yeah, Jamie Ben.

Yeah, Jamie Ben was another guy. When he wants to. When he wants to play and be physical, he reminds me of you. A little, not quite the, probably as physical. Yeah, I fought more than Jamie. I hit more than Jamie, but Jamie was, Jamie is a, he's a power forward that has hands. He's kind of lost a little bit of touch this, you know,

in the last year and a half, but he's still a tremendous player. I'm a big fan of Jamie, but I don't, I don't see anybody in the game that does everything. Just so you don't think I'm lying, though. I just want you to see I have Jamie been. Yeah, there's a research guy. Colby, you know your game, man. I'm a big hockey guy. I'm a big hockey guy.

I'm a big hockey guy. You know your game, buddy. I like it. You mentioned. like Wayne Gretzky had a protector, right? And a lot of the, like, a lot of the stars didn't weren't as physical as you were. Did you have any, you, you seem to embrace it. Like, you didn't have anyone that was like protecting. Like, hey, protect J.R. at all costs. Like, you didn't ask for people to protect. Like, I, I, I'm a true believer that if you're going to run around and you're

going to be an asshole, you're going to hit hard, you're going to do things that people don't like and you're going to have to be held accountable. Like, you have to, you have to be accountable for the way that you're going to play. And I, listen, if I'm going to hit you as hard as I can, and I might take a cheap shot at you, you're going to come after me. You're going to come after me. I'll drop the gloves. I mean, I'll take my beating, but I'm going to come back again. I'm going to come back again. I'm going to come back again until you quit.

So for me, yeah, I love to have Stu Grimson on my team. I loved having Bob Probert on my team. I loved having Dave Manson on my team, these big giant guys that, you know, would knock people out if they got close to me. But I had no problem sticking up for myself and fighting my own battles. I actually liked that. Whether I got my ass kicked or not, which I did most of the time. I love that.

Just that gladiator type of I love coming out of a game with blood on me. God. See, that's just got to be some way you're wired. Like, you don't teach that. I don't think you develop that. Is that just something you're, like, was that the case from a young boy? Like, you like to hit people?

No, not until I turned pro. I didn't hit anybody until I turned pro. Mike Keenan scared the piss out of me in my first preseason game that literally said, if you don't hit the guys that you're playing against, then you're not going to play pro. And I was like so scared that Mike Keene was going to keep me from playing. I just, I was 150 pounds. I started throwing myself like a human torpedo all over the place,

and I found that it was effective. I found the fans liked it. They went crazy. But my dad always used to say to my mom when he was watching on television, if I got cut or if I was bleeding early in the game, I was going to have a big game. I was going to come out. That got the juices. That got the juices flowing.

When blood came on me, it was almost like, you know, you start frothing at the mouth. He said, this is good shit, you know, bring it to me. You know, I got excited. and I started feeling better. And when you feel better and you feel confident, you're going to make smarter plays and make better decisions. And I always played better with blood on me. That's how I played golf too.

Same. Yeah, same. I looked for my ball in the shit. I was like, as soon as that first swarrow gets me, it's on. Hey, I've been bloody on the golf course, too. Me and Jim McMahon and I played Medina one year. And by the third hole, the glass was broken and both of us had blood all over our shirts and can't for cuts hands we were you know both of us hammered the the not only the glass but the

cart and each other in the match we had you and jim McMahon that you need to be my that that's a that's a that's a round that needs to be miced up videoed up that whole nine 100% he's a legend that is a beautiful man that's priceless content right that is without question well 20 year in hL career then you went into broadcasting at what point did you start thinking obviously i know you like to talk a lot. At what point did you start thinking, maybe I should start getting into TV a little bit? I really didn't, you know, throughout this whole time of being a loud mouth, brash, honest, you know, you know, guy playing the game. I never thought that I was kind of setting myself up for television. I mean, television wasn't a huge thing. We had local television, but not the national side.

And then when I retired in 2009, I really didn't know what I was going to do for the rest of my life. And then January rolled around. The Olympics were coming. in Vancouver. Peter Laviolette, who was supposed to be going to the Olympics for NBC, got the Philadelphia job, so there's a spot open. So my agent called NBC, and, you know, I did a deal with NBC that I would behave myself and mind my peas and cues and not say anything stupid and got the job at the Olympics. Had an amazing time, did really well, and turned into a 10-year career. And it was something that I had to get used to, you know, having people talk in my ear, talk about the game, being able to talk on camera, live, being able to get my words out.

Obviously, I have a lot of things in my head, a lot of ideas, a lot of opinions to try to get them down in 15, 30 seconds is almost impossible for me. And I had to learn how to do that on television. But I loved it and I was honest with people. I told people how it was, regardless of who was playing, regardless of their my friends, regardless of their teams that I played for. And I let people try to, you know, get the real, you know, the real stuff. And I think people appreciate it. And I turned into a pretty good career until this year. And that's exactly why people love you is because you're not afraid.

You're not afraid you don't mince words. You say what you think. You have opinions, right? Which is not always popular on television. But how hard is it to walk that line between, hey, be a personality, say what you think. But also don't slip up too much and say too much because then people will get mad. How hard is this to walk that line? Does that happen?

No, not really. Definitely not for you, when you screw up with words. Yeah, no. Yeah, I'm not too used to that. You know, I was always on edge. You know, I always had somebody from NBC watching me, always monitoring all my shows, monitoring my Twitter, monitoring my social media.

But listen, I think our whole, our worlds are made up of personalities. They're made up of debates. They're made up of opinions. And especially when it comes to sports, I think people want to hear what the, The real truth is what we as players really think about what we're watching. They don't want to be sugar-coded. They don't want me to talk, you know, about the Blackhawks when they're watching the game,

they know they suck. And I come on and I sugar-cote it because I don't want to rip the Blackhawks that I played him for so long. Or a player or something like that. Or the referees who most of the people want to have their banter and want to have their bit their bit sessions about, the referees. but the network won't let you talk about the referees because they want to have good relations with the league.

And for me, that just wasn't me. I just want to speak the truth, tell people the real opinion of what I think, because that's what I'm there for. I'm not there to make up stories or blow smoke up somebody's ass. I'm there to do a job and to be honest. When I first got there, my boss said one thing to me that always stuck.

He said, we're here to inform, teach, but not make friends. And that kind of stuck in with me. I have enough friends. I don't need to talk on TV like I want everybody to like me. Sometimes it's just as good when 50% of the people hate you and 50% of the people like you because you can say whatever the hell you want and you'd be okay. That's kind of the mentality that I run by.

That's awesome. Obviously, we have to get into it. The reason you're no longer doing TVs, the comments with Catherine Tappen and Patrick Sharp, which you were on the Spit and Chick-in-Chiclitz podcast. which was fantastic. Yeah. They do an awesome job. They do a great, great, great show.

But I mean, you said something just so innocent and just joking around fun, and then it just went to this whole other level. Well, I think there's a lot of things about this. And, you know, you learn in life when, you know, life changes, people change, um, society changes. And, you know, I'm always going to be one that's going to have fun. I'm always going to one that's going to want to entertain with a story and tell stories of what's happened to me.

And I've done it many, many times. You know, I told a story that of something that actually really happened, a true story of my wife and Catherine going on a trip and what people were talking about us. And we joke about ourselves. And unfortunately, I got caught in a culture. And by the way, I never said the word threesome in the whole thing. I actually praised my counterparts more or bigger than anybody else has on NBC or maybe. for anybody ever has period for the most part but you know I got caught on a on a racy podcast which is great that tell stories that let's loose you know I was telling

actual story I didn't ask anybody to do anything didn't threaten anybody to do things and I thought at the time everything was fine right I'm not hurting anybody I have this conversation with Catherine. I have this conversation with my wife. The problem is, is, you know, what I didn't know, the NBC was going through their own problems. I mean, they're going through a huge investigation of covering up certain things that have happened within their network that shouldn't be allowed, whether it's sexual harassment or, you know, political bias or whatever the case may be. NBC had their own problems that they were under investigation for. And then I come up with my big mouth and tell a story.

And they just didn't need, this is my opinion, they didn't need me adding fuel to the fire. So firing me is like, it's a notch on their good page, right? Oh, see what we did. We don't condone that. Yeah. Oh, we don't condone that. So I was like the sacrificial lamb to say, listen, we can't have any more. We have already, I mean, the head of NBC stepped down because of it.

I mean, I can talk forever. I just believe that everything happens for a reason and great things come out of bad things. And I definitely learned my lesson about society and what you can say, what you can't say, how people perceive what you say. Do I agree with it? I mean, not all of it. I agree with some of it. But there are people that are still there that have done a million times worse. in society than I have done that are still there.

And that kind of bothers me. But it is what it is. There are certain people that will get preferential treatment, and that will always happen in all of society, and all of industry, unfortunately. But I have some really good things that are coming, and I wasn't going back to NBC next year anyway. So whether I was done in July or they fired me in February,

good things are going to happen to me, learn from my mistakes, learn from some of the United, the things I can and can't say. Do I have great things to say about NBC? Listen, they gave me 10 great years. They gave me the opportunity to make another life for myself, create another image for myself, be with the fans. I'll never, you know, I'll always be appreciative of that. But the way it ended was was really unfortunate, tell you the truth. Well, let's get to that exciting stuff that you got coming up because we were just talking about before the show. What's next? If people love Jeremy Roneck, they want to see what you're doing. What's next on tap for you?

You know, when I got fired, I had a lot of time to myself to kind of reflect, kind of, take some time to myself. I used to travel 300 days a year. Now I'm home every single day. I'm playing golf. I'm having home-cooked meals. I'm doing things that I don't usually do. And I went, there's just a strange irony. I went to a kid's birthday party over at Top Golf.

And I was going to see my buddy Troy Gloss. and his wife, Anne Gloss, obviously big baseball guy, Toronto player. And I was there, and all of a sudden, Eric Burns came up to me. Eric Burns, you know, a great Major League Baseball player. He's one of the best characters on Major League Baseball, and period. If you watch his social media, this guy is unbelievable. And he came up to me because I can't believe you're here. Like, I was just talking about you the other day with my partner up in San Francisco.

We're starting this platform called No Filter Broadcast. and he starts explaining it to me. And it's all about broadcasting games the way we like to watch games if you're with your buddies and you're at home and you're yelling at the television

because you're mad at the referee, you're mad at a player or something happens at a game and it's like, oh, fuck, you know? Why have happened? I don't know what you're talking about. You know, scream it. God damn it, the referee,

doesn't he know I have $500 on the game? Damn it. You know, just it's, It's the real life, real way to watch a game. So no filter broadcast is going to give people the ability to mute the television and not listen to the boring bullshit that a lot of the commentators throw you. And turn on our no filter on your computer, on your laptop or your Facebook, on your iPad or your phone.

That's brilliant. And sit there and watch us and interact with us. and interact with us, right? You can text us and we'll answer your question. We all have the ability to bring you on screen and make you a part of the broadcast. And also we're going to have original content where we'll make up shows.

Like I'm going to have a gambling show. I'm going to do a real life show where we'll talk about all aspects of life. What pissed you off this week? There's a lot of things that pissed me off this week. Well, I'll have a show probably on Saturday that what pissed you off this week? What made you happy?

what made you sad, you know. So no filter is going to be a great way for people to find original content and find it from all different kinds of people. And I say different kinds of people, because let's say there's an 8-year-old, let's say there's an 85-year-old that wants to come on no-filter broadcast. They want to create an image for themselves. They fill out all the forms. They get their own channel, and they can literally use their social media to reach out the fans, watch me broadcast the game. And let's say this little eight-year-old is awesome. He's so much fun to watch.

He gives a great perspective. He's entertaining. He's, you know, he's got some good words that he used. Maybe he wears a tux. Maybe he wears different outfits. And people like them. So he watches them. And he grows a following.

Well, when you grow a following, the next thing that comes is the advertisers. And what we'll do at no filter is we'll broadcast their, you know, we'll push out and publicize this kid. And we'll get advertisers for him. And if advertisers come on and want to, you know, advertising a show, we're actually going to pay that eight-year-old and give these kids an opportunity to find maybe a future in broadcasting or at least have some fun and maybe make some money that it's safe for college or whatever. So no filter broadcast is going to be coming soon,

hopefully this summer, midsummer, but it's going to give you the real deal, man. And when you put Jeremy Ronek with a no filter front end, you don't know what's going to happen next. I'm very excited. I think people are clamoring. Is this for, so just to be clear, is this for all sports? This isn't just hockey, this is baseball, basketball, football, football, golf. This is everything? You got a couple golf guys right.

By the way, golf? Is this for golf? This, by the, you guys would be, you guys would be, great. All right, we're in, we'll do it for a million year apiece. It's done. Listen, you guys, you guys can create whatever you guys want. Advertisers like you, you guys can come on, make as much money as you want.

Advertis will love you guys. You guys are just a hoot to listen to. So we've got to talk about that afterwards because we guys would be awesome on this. Well, that's done. And I'm also, I'm working on coming out with a with a flavored whiskey at some point at the end. Oh, so booze and on filter. You just said you drink vodka and tequila. Now of a sudden we're going to throw a whiskey in there?

There's too much competition in vodka. That's true. That's a businessman. That's a freaking business man. And I do like whiskey. And whiskey is very popular right now. And everybody's trying to come out with their own whiskey. I'm doing a flavored whiskey.

which is really big with the millennials. It's going to be a chocolate whiskey. Are we millennials? What are we? I don't know. I think I'm on like the old end of millennials. I'm 35. Where are you 35?

I turned 35 in a couple of weeks. You guys are the same age. You guys are still millennials. Are we really? I hate that term. Millennials like at the derogatory term. But you're at the back end. You know,

you probably have a mixture of both. I don't think you guys. We're old souls for millennials. All right. We're going to talk about this whole old filter. You guys are pussy. That's the night. That's the nicest thing anyone's ever said to us.

You guys aren't bullies. That's the nicest shit that anyone's ever said to it. You're not tough, but you're not a pussy. No, you're definitely not tough. No one's ever said that about us. Can I do a weird, complete segue into some stuff that's completely unrelated, but I know you're a big conspiracy theory guy. And I could not do this podcast without getting into some conspiracy theories.

How did you know that, by the way? We do our research here on this. This is not some rookie league, schmo-ass. You think we just show up and ask questions? You think we just show up and be like, hey, Jeremy. You guys are good because I thought I was a secret conspiracy. No, no, dude. It's all in the open.

So I got a lot of shit to ask you about this. Let's get into it right now. So before I ask you specific conspiracy theory, give me what's the one that you are convinced is true? The majority of the United States would be like you're full of shit. JFK Jr. is still alive. That's what I thought. Okay, so JFK Jr., who by the way, I'll let you do it.

No, no, hold on. Give people the background on JFK Jr. In case people are unfamiliar, the plane crash. Well, the problem, what people don't understand is our world is run by not the government, so to speak. It's a bigger, higher entity. It's the richest people on the planet, the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, the, you know, the Guggenheims, the Clintons. At the one time, it was the Epstein's, even deeper. The people that, you know, that run the banking world, the Rothschilder run the banking world.

The Rockefellers have run the oil all over the world. These people have run, you know, in the 20s and 30s and 40s, it was the mafia. These people ran everything. They controlled the government. They controlled everything where all the money went. Well, all of a sudden, you had JFK Jr. JFK that got, you know, came to office. JFK's father actually did, made a deal with, with the mafia to help his son get into office.

If he did, I mean, JFK, JFK's dad was, you know, not the most cleanest guy. So when- Don't laugh at this. I'm all airs, I'm all- Jeremy has my full attention, dude. So now, you know, JFK gets in. Now, this is why he had great relationships with Frank Sinatra. He had a lot of good relationships with other mouth for your guys for a little while.

Makes sense. For a little while. But JFK and his brother Robert, these guys were, they wanted to, they wanted everything to be clean. They want to be straightened up and up. And they kind of booted, you know, booted friends with the mafia. They started getting ready to call out some of these higher, higher people that were controlling everything. And that's just not going to happen. And when JFK got assassinated in Dallas, you know, it's, it's a pretty f***ed up thing. Eight different people shot at them that day. Eight. The cover up of JFK, you know, getting assassinated is it. I thought it was a

Two people shot on him. Oh, no. Oh, no. No. That's what the civilians think. Eight. Eight. Eight.

And the guy that got him was actually in the drainage ditch that was right in the drainage in the sewer, right where the car stopped for a split second. And you can see where the curb was marked with a white line. So they knew exactly where that white line was in relation to that hole in the sewer system. That's the guy that got him. Anyway, you've got to watch the whole show. It's unbelievable. But what's even more so for me is now JFK gets assassinated.

It's a huge cover-up. Who did it? Who didn't do it? How did it happen? Lee Harvey Oswald, it's amazing how Lee Harvey Oswald came out the next day. And a guy with a gun just comes right out of the crowd and gets him. Like, that's going to happen. They wanted him out.

So he was the scapegoat. They couldn't have him around. They killed him the next day. So cover up everything. But anyway, then you have JFK Jr. He's sitting there, saluting his dad. He's, what, three and a half years old, four years old. As he starts getting older, he starts understanding why his dad got assassinated.

What happened? He starts doing all his research. As he's getting older, he's getting more popular. He's doing things. He is JFK Jr. And he knows about these higher entities. He knows about the Gabal. He knows about the mafia.

He knows all the people that he can bring down. By the way, you know who one of his best friends were in the early 90s? Who's that? Donald Trump. Yeah. Okay. So you don't think these guys talked about it. You don't think Donald Trump and JFK Jr. talked about it.

You know, JFK writes, starts his own magazine, George, right? Starts writing things. If you look at some of the covers of George, you know, Hillary Clinton, will she be caught? Will she be brought out? There is Bill Gates will control. human population with viruses and antiviruses. This is back in the 90s. That shit's happening right now.

So now all this stuff is happening. Actually, there was a picture with JFK that says, John F. Kennedy will reappear in 2020. I mean, there's really weird shit. I read all about that. There's really shit that's crazy. So when he's getting ready to kind of uncover a lot of the shit that's going on, by the way, JFK wrote Joe Biden a letter calling him a traitor.

A handwritten letter to Joe Biden in the 90s calling Joe Biden a traitor. This is stuff that's happening in the 90s. So when he's bringing out all these big, big time names, all these big people who have run the world, what's probably going to happen to JFK Jr? Probably the same thing to happen to his dad. What's the best way to survive and survive to the future? Disappear. Just disappear.

And I just think that the plane crash was a way. way to set up his, set up his death to find a way to disappear. Now, JFK Jr. has a lot of money. He can disappear if he wants to. He's still alive. Whether he is or not, I want to believe it. I'm a conspiracy theorist. They say he's in Pittsburgh. He's been hiding in Pennsylvania for a number of years. Hey, listen. With all the money. There's two people, there's two people. There's two people that follow Trump around to his rallies. Okay. One is this guy who's face change. changes all the time and is actually very much similar to them. And, you know, his nose gets bigger, nose changes.

It's pretty crazy. And then there's a person, a woman who's really close to them in the crowd, but they're never standing next to them. And if you see their face and you see their smile, it's, it's beset. And her, it is identical. 20, 25 years later. And I'm telling it.

I am a believer, and I think something big is coming down the pipeline. I don't know what it is, but... I heard he's going to reappear in 2020. 2020. Right. That's what I've been told. I've been told, I mean, read on the Internet, which means it's true. Well, listen, if you need someone to come out and call out all these people, I mean,

I heard through friends of friends of friends who are deep into this whole conspiracy thing and people in government that Trump has like 150 or 200. and secret indictments ready to slam down on some of the biggest people in this world. Is that true? I mean, I read QAnon. I watch the cabal. I follow all this stuff like it's crazy.

Is it true? I don't know. But who's the best person to bring that shit out? Might be JFK Jr. Right before the 2020 election. Right before 2020. Well, we could obviously talk about this for hours. Do you have another conspiracy theory?

Well, I just want to rattle off a few more because I want to get your quick. It's a quick. We're going to get to E9. I want to take up all your time. But, all right, moon landing, real or not? Yes, I believe it is. Okay, Area 51. Did we discover alien spacecraft?

I believe in area 51. I like to believe in aliens. Listen, this is where I get interested. Do you think that we're the only, I mean, space is so big, and the galaxy after galaxy, after galaxy, do you think we're the only planet where that something could have grown? With intelligent life? No, I believe there are something else out there. There's got to be something else out there.

I'm not a big conspiracy theorist, guys. but I do believe in some of that stuff. I know I see things on TV and I say that's definitely not true. But I mean, I don't really know if I want to believe in aliens or not. It's one of those things. Because that freaks me the fuck out. It's gnarly, dude. It's gnarly if you dig real deep into it and all the Navy guys that have seen different things in it.

All there are. No, I don't want to. I don't think I want to know. All right. All right. We'll leave that TBD. Big in Tupac. Oh, no, they're dead.

Okay. Big and Pop. Yeah. Let's get going to emergency. He ended it right about the Illuminati real quick, the Illuminati. Are they real? 100%. There you go, dude.

Illuminati is real. Aluminati is 100 million percent is there. They're running everything. They run. It's a Rothschild, it's a Rockefeller's. Yeah, Rockfellers. It's all of them. No, one has to get this show under control.

No, this is perfect. This is what we came Friday R on. We can't sit here for four hours. Do we have a rare brain in our presence right now? We need to tap into it, dude. Listen, you're the rare brain. I have to deal with it every day. Okay.

All right. I think John Podesta's email should be go back for 20 years. We're going to have you back on and we're going to do an entire show on conspiracy theories. If you want to do a conspiracy show, I'll do it. That's a done deal. We'll do it when we do no filter. All right. Keep going.

All right. Now we'll get to our thing. We do this with every guest. Emergency 9, nine fun questions. We're going to start it off. Number one, we ask us to every guest. Movie about the life of Jeremy Ronek, who plays it? Well, I have two.

Oh, great. Well, because if you're going to have a life about me and you're going to have a young one and you're going to have an old one. Okay. So I'm going to go Woody Harrell. would be the young. Respect. And then James Woods would be old. Okay.

I have Woody written down. You have Woody? Really? Yeah. Is that your only one? If he had one? Woody Harrison. Woody Harrison is the only one.

I have the one. By the way. And by the way, I googled this man today. And his current picture is eerily similar to you. We can pull it up after the show. I'll show it to you. Dolph Lundgren. Ooh, that's a good one.

Fuck, dude. That's really good. By the way, that's like the highest compliment I can give to someone. Let me go do some pushups and some pull-ups. Yeah. I'll get there. You would never lose to Rocky in Russia, by the way. Zero chance.

I have zero chance of looking like him physically, but I like the call. Yeah, Dolph Lungren is a good one. All right, we go second one. Touch on it a little bit earlier, but give me one guy in the NHL that you wanted no part of in a fight. Ty Domi. This is the craziest man on skates because he fight anyone. And he was the one guy that every time he got hit in the face, he got more excited. and he smiled and he got more, just more, you know, just angered and fun.

And you see his face looks like it's made out of Teflon, right? And his head is made out of Teflon. He's honestly, he fought the biggest guys in the game and was like, beat him. And he can play the game. That's what I feel about you. Like the one guy you don't want, Jeremy Rooney. Oh, I love that. That's good.

Well, I would throw you some cheap shots, too, because, listen, if you're not cheating yet, trying. Well said. Well said. Number three. PGA tour player would make the best hockey player. Now, probably Kepka, a current Kepka, because he's built like a hockey player. He's got the mentality. He just doesn't give a shit.

I would probably go with Kepka. Yeah, I like that. Yeah. That makes a total sense. And he's aggressive. He don't give him. give a shit. He's just, he's firing at pins. He just, it doesn't matter if it's a, it's a major or nothing. He plays best in the majors. He just, that's, he has the mentality of a seat. And he's in the

gym. He's in that gym too. All right. Next question. You're not afraid of a lot. We didn't even get into like the way you wrestle rattlesnakes and all that stuff. But give me one thing that Jeremy Rona gets afraid of. Dying. Dying. Yeah. I have too much fun. You should contact the Illuminati. They could probably set you up for life. I, you know, I just, you know, I, I, I love life. so much. I love people so much. There's so much that I want to do in this life and we're not here for very long. And God, when we're gone, it's a long time that you're gone for it. You know that, right? I think I know. It's a really long time. It's a really long time. Well, I don't know yet. And by the way, I just don't know what, you know, you hear all these stories. I saw the light and I saw

grandma. I saw, you know, and you just don't know whether that's, that's true or not. You want to believe, right? And I think that's what keeps us, keeps faith in all of us, right? We want to believe, but I don't, I just don't know. To preserve your life. I knew it wasn't rattlesnakes or alligators. No, no. Those things are nothing. There's little sissies. Yeah. All right, number five, hockey players are very superstitious. Craziest superstition you've ever had or that you've heard of. Um, I, you know, superstitions are crazy. A lot of people like to call them, um, um, um, what do they, routines. Yeah.

For me, when I got, when I got hot, I would wear the same underwear all the time, no matter what. Wash or no wash? And this isn't, this is my game. Well, this isn't my game stuff. This is the stuff that I wore, like when I left the house, like if I had a pair underwear on, if I was scoring goals, I would have the same underwear on six days from when I first put it on. Because remember, you don't play every single day.

Yeah. So if I score it on Monday, I'd keep that underwear on until Wednesday. No wash? And if I scored on Wednesday, I would have to wear them again. Of course. I wouldn't wear them like on Tuesday. Right. But I'd wear them a day off.

Yeah. So I'd wear them on Monday. Let a breathe. Let a breathe. But wash or no wash? No wash. Okay. Yeah.

You can't wash the hot streak. They got the juice. Yeah. The juju. Yeah. Okay. So you wore the same underwear for weeks at a time because you scored a lot of goals.

I did. I think there was one time I went on like in an eight game scoring streak, seven games scoring streak. that was two weeks. Those things could, those things could, those things could, those things could, they could walk out of the room. They could walk out of the, they could walk out of the house on their own. Holy sure.

You're probably like, please don't score. Let me watch these things. Yeah, I did. Whoever was doing your laundry was like, please God don't score. Yeah, I do. Let me get these crusties in the, in the track. Fun, fun, fun, fun. All right, number six.

All right, number six. Which PGA tour player needs to have their shirt pulled over them and punched in the face hockey style the most? That would be, um, Patrick Reed. Okay, yeah. I was supposed to say other than Patrick Reed. Okay. Okay, other than Patrick Reed, because I feel like he's the popular answer. DeCambeau.

Dude, he's balking up, though, bro. He's trying to add all this mass. Are you afraid of Bryce and Deschambeau? Definitely not. Definitely not afraid of DeCambeau. Listen, he's a great player, but God help me watching this guy. Like, put the ball already. Figure it out.

I mean, Jesus Christ, how many times you're going to practice swing? Listen, I love the fact that. He's kind of revolutionized, you know, all the clubs are the same. He's, you know, he's as the electronics, the stats, all the stuff, computerized shit. But just play faster, please. All right. On record. Is that a good run?

No, that's great. I think that's probably 1A is Patrick Reed. 2A is probably. Okay. I see. Yeah, I think you're right in line. Right in the wheelhouse. Okay.

All right. Number seven. What's the weirdest topping you've ever heard anyone put on a bagel? Hmm. On a bagel. Bagel. Oh. Maybe in Philly.

Hmm. Maybe in Philadelphia. No, I... Weird topping. I'm sure. I'm sure Philly has... They're awesome. You can say pass.

It's no big deal. You can say pass on this. This is an inside job. I don't know. This was some research that didn't go as well as I planned, but we'll just go to the next question. The Illuminati... Oh, wait.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No. No, yeah. I know what you're talking about. I don't have to say it. You get a final cut on this podcast, by the way. Maybe, maybe chocolate chip. Number eight.

I'm dying. All right. Keep that as fast, dude. Keep that as a fast. Yeah, yeah. I told you we do our research on the show. You're going to get this on no filter though, Doug. You're going to get this on no filter.

That went right over my head, by the way. Yeah. That was kind of just thrown out there. Let's see if something happens. Yeah. Yeah. It's just. And I was like, yeah, see where it goes.

That's one for my book And when I'm 80 All right Number eight Okay Number eight dude I'm dying right now All right

Most fun athlete or celebrity That you've ever partied with A guy that you Because you can party Yeah Give me a guy that you're like Oh he's gonna be there Like I got to ramp up

Oh God I've been with a lot of fun guys John Cusack It's just awesome A lot of fun Dan Aykroyd Absolutely Blast

Beast? Blast. We, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we parted with Dan Aykroyd in Toronto one time. He, he was with the band and we were at his bar and, and a bunch of us went after a game and we actually got up and played, you know, played, uh, instruments and sang with them up on stage in front of everybody was awesome. Uh, and Jim Belushi, uh, John Belushi. Oh, yeah. John Bluci. Yeah, yeah. John Bluci's brother. Yeah, Jim. Yeah. He's, he's, he's, he's another great guy that I just had a blast. Could you give me a quick, except, but got some friends in Chicago. They said, So there was a place called Stanle's where you used to go downstairs, closed quarters. You and Eddie Vedder used to do karaoke.

True. Yep, very true. And one of the best sports bars of all time, one of the, unfortunately, God rest, the soul of the owner, he's one of the greatest guys in the world. But Stanley's was, it was a, it was an iconic place to go to. There was a time when Cellios and I would have our golf tournament. And Shelley's great, Charlie's best friends with everybody, but Eddie Vedder and Kid Rocker, two of his best friends. So they were there that night and they got on stage and they had a

competition between each other. So it's only us, the golf tournament at the bar. And all of a sudden, the band is up and here comes Eddie and here comes Kid Rock. And they have this competition. They have three songs that they have to sing each. The first song was they had to sing their favorite song of all time. So Eddie sang his favorite song, Kid singing his favorite song. Then the next song they had to sing was their favorite song that they ever wrote themselves. So Kid Rock sang his favorite song and Eddie sang his favorite song. And then the third one is they had to sing one of their favorite song of each other. The other one wrote. So Kid had to write to sing his favorite Eddie Vetter song and Eddie had to sing his favorite kid rock song. So six songs total. And they didn't miss

a word on any song. They nailed it. the talent that oozed out of both of these guys, they had everybody in the bar just rocking, jamming, screaming, and they didn't miss a beat. It was one of the best concert performances of spur of the moment thing I've ever seen in my life. I got friends there, then, like, this is a thing of legend. Like, they would go down to the bottom of Stanley's,

no one could get in, but the stories that came out were like, this was the coolest thing. You'd walk up to Eddie Better, he'd had a hat on. You would have no idea who he was. And he was just that cool, and he was sitting there with a beer in his hand. He's like, what's up, dude? That's J.R.

Yeah. That is awesome. What's going on? Amazing. Last question. You've had over 800 stitches in your face. In my face. Just in your face.

That's crazy. That is insane to me. So who do you think's had more work done on their face? You are Holly Saunders. That's close, dude. That's a tight call. That's a tight call. We bring tough questions.

That's a real tough because I know Holly. I've known Holly. I've known Holly from my NBC days. I think if you put, I think if you put, like total body stitches she might have me all right perfect over 800 in the in the grill alone yeah but but i love holly's great i i love holly she's always like so sweet she's great to look at she's great to talk to she's a great golfer i i've always enjoyed holly sounders awesome well i've enjoyed

this this has been a fun one this is a tough one to top we're going to have you back on by the way we're to do all conspiracy this is i'm in we just touched the tip of the ice i'm going I'm going back and doing my investigating right now. My research. Thank you so much. I'm going to, I'm going to talk to the Illuminati and just get to the bottom of this.

It's there, man. I'm telling you. They're there. They are there. That was Jeremy Ronek on golf subpar. That was the beautiful Jeremy Ronek. Sleas, he's a crazy sum bitch. Beautiful.

Beautiful is a good word to describe that, man. We need more dudes like that. I feel like we caught Ronek at the perfect time because he's out with NBC. He's doing his own thing. He does not mince words, obviously, as he just heard. And he is ready to tell all.

I really liked what he had to say about the no filter broadcasting. I think that's going to be so entertaining. It's something that I think a lot of people have been talking about, but they're finally getting to work and putting it out there. Yeah, there's multiple people I've talked to that like, this would be great. What if we just had a real broadcast with dudes that just talk, like, how regular guys talk? And it sounds like he's actually putting the platform together. I don't know how you do it.

It sounds like JR's already in the mix of doing it. But if that really goes, that could be a, I would much rather listen to two guys in that sport that know what they're talking about and can say whatever they want than like a regular broadcast typically. I know that hurts you because you're regular broadcast dudes. No offense. I can be bought. I can go both ways. Yeah, you're definitely for sale. Exactly. But he was a blast talked to and you really piqued his interest when you brought up the conspiracy theories. Dude, I feel like we were just scratched. I feel like if we would have started the podcast at the very end right there and just said, hey, tell us about your conspiracy theories. We could have

gone for another two hours because he like lit up like a Christmas tree at that point. It's like, yeah, dude, J. G. G. Jr., definitely still alive and all this other shit. He's a wild dude, bro. But he was a blast to talk to. But now something that's very fun for me, getting into this week's picks for the Charles Schwab challenge. These are resuming. Yeah, we're resuming. We're keeping the standings where they were, just like the FedEx Cup. You can't reset.

Hold on, timeout. This is bullshit that you're resetting because... We're not resetting. This would be like going off of the Boston Marathon. I'm like, all right, guys, we're running a marathon. And then one mile into the race, you're like, oh, kidding. Is it 10K? Dude, I strategize based on knowing that it's a marathon and now all of a sudden it's a sprint.

So your guy, Sun J.M. should just start back at zero? Sung Jay's my guy. He's leading the FedEx. Don't say anything bad about Sung Jay. So we keep the standings where they are. Bullshit. And I have a massively, producer Mark can update us at some point, but I know it's huge. Numbers are fudge.

He's got like two commas in it. That's a nothing burger, dude. That's it. Basically nothing. You just got to win two in a row. Basically nothing. All right. I ain't afraid of this.

So to refresh everyone's memory, we make four, we pick four players. One that's 25 to one or better. One that's between 26 to one and 50 to one. And then two guys outside of 50 to 1. So they're basically dark horses. We add up the money. Winner at the end of the year. Loser caddies for the other guy.

No big deal. I'll win. You only got $2 million to make up. Yeah, I just have 12 events less than I should have. All right. No big deal. Well, there's only five guys that are 25 to 1 or better this week. And I know exactly where you're going, which is bullshit,

because you gave me shit for always picking this guy previously. And now you've played a couple rounds of them recently, and now you're going to be all in on them. So I'll let you go first on earlier you're picking. You're the jealous high school boyfriend right now. It's ridiculous. You stole my girlfriend. Grow up a little bit, but I am.

I played a lot of golf with him recently. His game looks absolutely great. I think he's going to have a great week there. He's got two top fives at Colonial. John Rom at 12 to 1 is my pick. Yeah, way to go out on a limb there and steal my guys. Well, there's five guys. You stole my prom date.

I already got committed, and then you swooped in and stole them. All right, I'm going to let you have John Rom because at this point, A, there's only five guys in this, in this odds category that we can pick. And B, a tie for me at this point is a loss. I got a game ground. So I'll just go ahead and take world number one. Roy McRoy. He's going off at 15 to 2 this week. I'm okay with taking Roy.

Big stretch there. I would have taken Ron, but I knew you were going to take him, so I switched. All right. Pick number two, 26 to 1 to 50 to 1. Who you got? I got my guy. I'm a stick with my guns right here. This is a surprising line to me, 33 to 1.

My God. He's rusty, dude. He's about 91 days off. I'll tell you what. There's not a person, I would bet you, in the golf world who has took less time off than this. Man, he doesn't even have a home in the United States. He lives in hotels. He just travels term to tournament.

young jm 33 to 1 i'm going with him love him love him all the time all right love him long time i'm gonna go with a guy who's going through some swing changes but i think this break was perfect for him so you thought i was copying all your picks i'm not this was perfect for him he loves this golf course 33 to 1 rickie fowler oh interesting looks very good at uh seminal yeah i like that look by his caddy joe govron tells me you know he's he's a guy that doesn't need to work off any rust he can just show up and play after a break so hey i trust his i believe that He's one of those guys. All right.

Now, this is where we get to where you can separate yourself a little bit. This is where I separate. All right. Guy, home course has played well there recently. Last few years. Keep going. His caddy is a club champion. You didn't know that.

I knew that. Ryan Palmer. Even though he's an Aggie, I'm going Ryan Palmer at 70 to 1. So if you'll see this piece of paper right here has my picks on it, Colt saw that and immediately stole it because he knows that it's high as a win for him at this point. I had Ryan Palmer. Colt then hijacked Ryan Palmer. I also had Ryan Palmer was last week.

trash because I had him sneaky pick. You stole it. All right. So we both have Ryan Palmer. I'll go up my second pick just to prevent you from stealing him. I'm going to go with this. I'm going to go with this past week. You loved the way it looked.

I played a couple rounds of golf with this man right here, recent guests of the pod. Mr. Max Homa just played with him recently. He looked better than I've ever seen him look before. Tita Green looked. I mean, it'd be hard, you'd be hard for us to find a guy that looks better right now than him. He's going off at 70 to 1. So Mr. Max Homa.

and it might be a good thing, Colt, that we didn't have match three this past week, which we were supposed to have with golf subpar versus Gripit and Ripet or whatever their podcast is called. Grip it and Ripet. Because he played pretty good. Shot 64. Last time I played with him. Looks awesome.

Max Homa 70 to 1. All right. Good pick. I'm okay with it. There's a lot of room to run in this category. There is. And I'm trying to narrow it down between two. I'm going to go with a guy who I heard it's in pretty good form right now.

Down at Sea Island, they played a little match. She played rather well. Won the team competition. J.T. Posten at 150 to 1. I respect that pick. If he plays well this week, I won't. I'm going to pick. He's a frog, and I think he could do some damage.

That doesn't get talked about? Tom Hogi. Tom Hogi. Tom Hogi. Has played well. I'm not picking him. Knows the place very well. Shout out to the T.C.

So to recap, I have John Rom, Rieckie Fowler, Ryan Palmer, JT. Poston. Okay, we only have one overlaug. I got Rory, world number one. I got Sung J.M., 33 to 1, Ryan Palm. Overlap Max Homa, 70 to 1. Let the games begin. That is it.

And next week, let's give him a little tease. Hold on. I got something. Hold on. Well, this is in honor of our guest next week. You have it on upside down, but no big deal. Don't worry about it. We'll just go with it.

Keep going. The only, Jim McMahon will be in the building. There's a chance who have a headbed on. There's a 100% chance we'll have sunglasses on. He's going to look fantastic, and I can't wait to talk to him. Another fun one. Not a golfer. a guy that's got better stories than arguably anyone out there really really going to be a fun

interview it is it's going to be a blast but hope you all enjoyed it we'll see you on next week's golf's up far