Subpar - John Smoltz talks playing Augusta National with Tiger Woods and being named Commissioner of The PRO Tour

Episode Date: March 24, 2026

On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar, Colt Knost and Drew Stoltz are joined by 8-time MLB All-Star turned Champions Tour golfer John Smoltz. The Cy Young Award winner reveals what it was like playing Augusta National with Tiger Woods ahead of the Masters, why the World Baseball Classic has become so massive globally and how he became the first commissioner of The PRO Tour. --Play faster, go farther, and start believing in your game with the all-new Callaway Chrome Tour — available now at callawaygolf.com--Thanks to our official sponsors Zone Nicotine.WARNING: THIS PRODUCT CONTAINS NICOTINE. NICOTINE IS AN ADDICTIVE CHEMICAL. UNDERAGE SALE PROHIBITED.Find your Zone. Bold nicotine pouch flavors in 6mg and 9mg — delivered to your door. Get 20% off at nicokick.com/zone with code SUBPAR20.

All right, everyone, welcome back to Subpar with Colt Nost and Drew Stoltz, Valspar Championship, and the Florida Swing is in the books, and Matt Fitzpatrick continuing his phenomenal play. Bertie's the 72nd hole to get his third PGA Tour win of his career. So, this was just a matter of time coming. The man's been knocking on the door. He was the best ball striker on the PGA tour of the West Coast with just an ice-cold putter. Comes over to the Florida Swing, just slowly starts making progress, gets to the players' championship, had a great chance to win there.

Cam Young, Bertie's 17, PARs 18. He ended up making bogey on 18, which ended up losing by a shot. But this guy, up to number six in the world now and playing some of the best golf of his life. At the right time, too. He's going to be on that short list that Augustus Hartz. He hits it. He doesn't get any, like, I feel like not that much discussion about how

hard he hits it. I mean, it's like, he's over 180, like, damn there every time he hits it. And by the way, shout out Florida swing. It's been a shitty time to be a 54-hole leader, but it has been some good. Every single week, I feel like it's come down the 70-second hole, and we had some crazy turnarounds, crazy flip-flops. You know, Akshay at Bay Hill, played a great back nine

and kind of stole it from Berger. We've had some collapses and things like that, Fits, bounce it back. It's been an unbelievable Florida swing, but he's playing really good golf. He is approach game, like you said, has been a lot better than it's ever been. He's kind of like a, I think he's the best version of himself right now

going into major championship time. And also, he's just a dude that plays, I think, like the harder the course, the higher it is relative to par, like 11 under, by the way, Innesbrook, great job with a setup, firm, crusty, bouncy. He's at his best at, like, really difficult golf course. And look at the places he wins. Like, it's like strategy-type places, like cerebral golf courses, you know.

He's, and that suits itself well for major championships, by the way. He's won at Harbor Town, the country club for the U.S. Open, and now here it is, Brooke, a place that might not have looked that great on TV, but I know the players love playing it, just because it did get firm. It got bouncy. It made these players think. hitting fairways was important. And you look at his ball striking numbers this year.

I mean, shout out to Mark Blackburn, who's been working with him the last few years. He's like fourth and driving accuracy. He's seventh in approach. I think he's ninth in strokes gain total. The only weakness has been the putter. But it's gotten better since he's got off the Poena Green's on the West Coast. And look out, man. He's a different player.

You look at like his major championship record, he won the U.S. Open now that he picked up the length. But before that, his major championship record wasn't that great. His Rider Cup record was terrible. He was a guy that, in my opinion, got bullied in the Ryder Cup because he didn't hit it very far. He was giving up 30, 40 yards to these guys and trying to beat them in a sprint. Went to work with the stack system, picked up a ton of speed. He's 180 miles an hour now at ball speed. And now to tag that with some great iron play, if the putter is just okay, like he's going to be a problem.

There's a reason he's number six in the world. And I agree with you. I think he has the game to contend at Augusta. Yeah, throw his hat, and then it'll be on the short list out there. you know, a couple guys that are going to be on that list. John Rom and Bryson DeShambo over in South Africa. They got, Live got their dream scenario. A bunch of people out there, by the way,

and their two biggest names in a playoff out there with Bryson, obviously getting it done. Rom moves like 0 and 4 now in playoffs. But he's also, what's he got five runner-ups? He's got five seconds, a fifth and a win so far this season. Doing okay. Doing okay. But those two are going to be, I mean,

Bryson's kind of figuring it out a little bit more around Augusta. He's had a couple of good finishes, and Rahm is Rom. He's already won there, and he looks like he's in very nice form. Yeah. The bad thing for us is it was on like three in the morning, our time. I would have loved to have seen those two guys going at it. Bryson's team, the Crusher's ended up beating the host team, the Southern Guards from South Africa by a shot at 76 under par.

Team score. By the way, the individual score. The playoff was 26 under. 76, Unge. Yeah. Not bad. That's a car. They are off until the Masters.

So obviously, ROM's coming in a great. form. Bryson's coming in in great form. This is, this is shaping up to be a very exciting 90th Masters. Hope the weather is good, but,

you know, you look at Xander Shafley. Also, starting to find some form. Roy McElroy has kind of been up and down. Scotty Schephler's got to win, but everybody's panicking about his 22nd and 24th place finishes his last couple.

I'm not panicking. He's teated up this week at the Texas Children's, though, just looking to find some form. Yeah, hopefully grab that top 20 curse that's been alluding him for two weeks. I feel like this year going into the Masters,

and there's still a couple weeks to go. But there's more names in the hat of guys that are starting to play really good golf. We mentioned, you know, Xander Fitz, got Cam Young in the mix, got a pretty nice game for around there. Chris Goderup's been a different guy. Ludwig starting to show signs.

Like, I feel like there's more, I mean, it's all top guys in the world. We're not picking any guy that's 73rd. And, you know what I mean? But it's like there's more coming in in good form, I feel like with a couple weeks leading up. Absolutely. Can I tell you a guy that I think is somewhat,

somehow sliding under the radar? just because his play the last couple years hasn't been that good. And I think you could honestly consider him a dark course at Augusta. No. I don't know who. The Golden Child.

Jordan Spieth. It's just, it's close. Like he has some good rounds. Then he kind of just crashes a little bit. Good rounds, crashes just a little bit. And he finishing, you know, top 20s here and there. Just, I feel like he's really close. And you know when he drives down Magnolia Lane,

something switches and he becomes a different guy. I'm just telling you, keep your eye out for Jordan Speeth. I think a good indicator in golf is like you look at offense and you look at like birdies made because it's hard to just like, I need to make more burdies. That's what I'm lacking. But it's easier to be like, I got to just eliminate the stupid. Maybe it's mental mistakes. It's the one bad T shot here and there.

He's making a lot of birdies. He just makes more, he's got more shapes on his scorecard than almost anybody at the top, you know, in the top of the world. But it's fun. It's fun to watch. I saw a stat, I believe it's from Kyle Porter. It said most holes led at the Masters in a season or in a year. and if you add up Jordan Spee's 2015 and 16

which you can honestly go back to 2014 probably as well but 2015 and 16 where he finished where he won and then finished runner up and he should have won if he didn't have the disaster on 12 144 holes I believe he led 128 of them He's a different beast when he gets around Augusta man And he's good like he's healthy He feels good like he's got a lot of good

That you can look at his game right now It's hard to just discover that aspect But it's like can we maybe maybe there's a shot or two here there I don't always making all the doubles and the bogeys, but that's way easier to get rid of, in my opinion, than just to be like, hey, Colt, if you just start making more birdies, you'll be in good shape. And he's healthy, which is huge.

So I'm just going to throw that out there early, two weeks in advance. Sit on that nugget. But we got the Texas Children's Houston Open this week, and we're going to get zoned in with our friends over at zone nicotine. And how about this story? We just learned before we came on here. This is incredible. Monday qualifier.

By the way, there's not a lot of those nowadays. They always have some great stories. but Sam Ryder, who's been a veteran on the PGA tour, just missed keeping his card this past season. Monday qualifier out there, solo dolo, using a push cart, which don't see many guys using that. I'm not going to carry this bag. I'm going to put them on a trolley or whatever you want to call it,

push cart, and I'm going to push these things around. And he pushed it right into a little 60, which I believe got him in. Six is going to get you in. As hard as those fuckers are to qualify for, 60 normally gets it done. pushing the, you see that sometimes, but it's not like, you don't see it with many tour players, but I got to imagine you just finish in Florida, caddies down there, it's like, look, we might not, like, we got a Monday.

You don't fly here, fly in, obviously. If I get in, obviously, you fly in. But not a good time to be his caddy when you're like, oh, I'm gone now. And all of a sudden, everything clicks for you. But yeah, cool story. And props to him for, you know, finishing up, flying out there and he's chasing. Yeah, I mean, there's not that many opportunities to do it anymore, so you got to take them. No.

And to use a push cart, by the way. No one uses a push cart unless you're Brian Waters guest at Cal Club because he's too cheap to get you a caddy. He'll get you a push cart to push up and down those hills out there at the beautiful Cal Club. And by the way, when I did it, I didn't shoot 60. I had a cart last time, but I was coming off nut surgery. I had like the blue flag or whatever. You drive right on up there. I was like, look, if I'm coming out.

Do they ask for any documentation? I was happy to show it. I was wearing like a jock strap basically to hold my stuff in tight. And I was like, we are driving to the green every hole or else I'm not coming out. And we did and we shot a million. It's nice. Yeah. By the way, I said, water, I would have paid for the caddies.

Like, you could have just got us caddying. Like, there's no reason for us. I felt like I was like pushing a NFL football sled up the hills there on two and nine. I mean, it's not the easiest walk. It's not the easiest walk. It's a fun walk. If you're fresh and feeling good and stuff, it's like, okay, we walk it around. But after like day two or three, like, probably use a little buggy.

I was doing 36 a day because I was out there for the U.S.am. So I was playing golf in the morning, walking, and then walking 18 for the U.S. in the afternoon. And then he just said, yeah, we're just going to get a little push cart around here. What a guy. What a guy. He is never zoned in.

No, he's not once. I saw him this weekend. He was not, he was exactly as you remember. God, I just love bag it out of it. It's so much fun. How's, um, it's March Madness, bud.

How are we doing on that? We'll talk about our golf gambling here in a minute. You're not super hot on that. I'm not super hot. I'm not super hot. I'm not super hot. I'm not super hot. In 36 and 48 games as far as picking just straight up.

Straight up winners. Yeah. Which I don't think that's great. You do have all final four teams left. I think Florida hurt me a little bit. I had them getting beat in the Elite 8, luckily. So it didn't hurt me too bad. I feel like it hurt a lot of people.

But it's been fun to watch, man. Your horn frogs. It was close till it wasn't. It was close to it. It was fun game until it wasn't. Yeah. That's a tough draw there in round two. They're good.

They shoot a lot of free throws. Also, here's a fun stat in terms of gamins. Since we're going to talk about some gambling. I've just completed the coldest stretch of gambling. not just me, but like most people I know, I showed you the screenshot, actually. Yeah, that wasn't real. Look bloody. I went 0 at a 0 and 14 stretch in March Madness.

I'm talking, dude, I'm bad in first half, I'm bad in second half, overs, unders, money lines, spreads, everything, not one across the board. I challenge you to go do anything where you go 0 for 14. Actually, our producer on radio put up the calculations like the math behind it, the odds of going 0 and 14 and what should be a 50-50 bet are one and 16,000. 384. Which puts me in elite. You are elite. I'm one of very few. Yeah.

The good news is you're good at your golf bets that you don't put money on. I do put money on the ones that I pick, but I'm not putting enough on it to counteract the 0-14. I promise you that. But yeah, 4-0, last 4th. That's officially a hot streak. Cory Conner's got it done for you. Now about it.

They're missing. Like these Vegas people, they're missing on golf a little bit. They don't got Sep high enough. They don't got Corey high enough. Apparently I need to do some research. But this week, I think I got a winner this week. Okay, this is the Texas children's women

Or, God, Texas Children's Houston Open. The Texas Children's Women's Hospital Open Invitational. I grew up by a golf course at Texas Women's University, T.W. Golf Course. Do you have any success over there?

Good odds. Yeah. It's all women. It's actually, it's called Texas Women's University and men go to it. Hey, how are you doing? No?

No? Next one. How much you? But anyways, Texas Children's Houston Open Memorial Park. This is a Bombers Paradise. I mean, wide open fairways.

Normally, He's zero rough, getting ready for Augusta. And I just, I think they messed up here. They did mess up again? He's starting to play some great golf, much better golf. He looks fantastic with his new clothing brand. Okay, but you can get him at a top 20. I just need you top 20, and it's three to one, plus 300.

Oh, this may be a mess up. Tony Fina. Yeah. I mean, come on. This place is ideal for him. Yeah. Go ahead and let out that 200 mile an hour ball speed that you got if you want it. Yeah.

And that Jordan brand clothes. I mean, it's 90 yards wide. This is just a straight, like, how hard can you hit it? I mean, it's a heaven for these guys. How do you think I would look in the Jordan brand baggy clothes that he's got rocking? Solid. Yeah, pretty nice. Pretty solid.

Like a kid wearing his dad's clothes, maybe. You know what I mean? He had sleeves down to the wrists. I think you're, I think you're their demo. Do you see Bobby Burger's video that Nike sent him in a little box? Yeah, look about like that. I feel like Nike, I think we have a little mix up here. I think you sent me LeBron's.

Slightly. Got a little. It's for two feet too long. It's good to have some room to grow. He said, Anthony Davis, this might be yours. Let me know I'll send it on over to Dallas. If I hit puberty again, these bad boys are going to fit nicely. All right, who are we going with this week for you?

I'm going to stay hot. You got to get hot to stay hot. I'm going top 20. Staying right at my sweet spot here. Plus 220 coming off a top 10 at Ennisbrook, a guy that used to be real streaky, and he's gotten a lot more consistent, but he's got a lot of ball speedy added. That's kind of when he started playing a lot better. Stephen Yeager, top 20 plus 220.

Give it to me. Historically, he's been a guy that. like plays good in stretches and then kind of doesn't play as good and then goes. This was a couple years ago, he was the Scotty Sheffler Slayer. Only one that could beat him. Correct. It happened right here. Vegas has slipped.

They got all their attention on March Madden. Which they're doing very good job of in March Madness. I got to tip my hat to them on that. I think they're slipping up. Dude, it's plus 220. Okay. Yeah. All right.

Well, that's our picks for this week's Texas Children's Houston Open. Another massive event this week. Member guest, Whist Brock. I know you're not participating. your brother had to come in this past weekend. They just left. Thank God they left. I got my man Brendan Morrow coming in.

Oh, it's going to be beautiful. We're about to saddle up and get after it. I cannot wait, and I'm going to be shipping my Callaway Chrome Tour X golf ball. Sleeze. I did some tests with this golf ball. I used to play a different one of theirs. I went out to Calloway. They told me, let's try this new one.

Chrome Tour X, the 2026 version. I hit five balls. And my man, Randy Peterson, goes, you don't need to hit that other one anymore. You're using that one. I hit it 10 feet higher. I was two miles an hour faster. and it spun the correct amount. I was like, well, what more could you ask for?

I'm hitting it in places. I've never hit it before. Fairways? Fairway. I'm hitting a lot of fairways, but it's gone very, very long, and I credit it all to the Quantum Driver and the new Chrome Tour X golf ball.

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There's been a lot of people calling for that, Slease. Look, you know. I've been around in locker rooms. I know what it looks like when a guy's juicing. This is how, exactly. You're on the radar. Our friends and our membership at Westbrook believe in me and how far I'm hitting it right now. None of them believe it could possibly be me or anything I'm doing.

I think I've sold 30 quantum drivers. Yeah, they see you hit it 10 yards. Everyone's like, dude, I heard you talking about this driver? It has to be the driver. I'm 15 yards longer with this thing. I was like, you know, working out, you know, training. Juicing. Yeah.

cheating all the things yeah everything you do but no it's phenomenal i'm telling you it's hot as hot as shit right now so the ball's traveling um forever how do you like our chances at the member guest depends like it always does on everyone depends on the off-the-course activities how much you're going to type how do you think our off-the-course activities are going to go my point you're about the same as mine so um it's doable you got to get out you don't have to jump out to a big lead day one and then just try to just cruise at home because you're not going to get better We just, I had my, like we said, my brother was out. Shout out to the boys from River Bend, by the way, Great Falls, Virginia.

Great crew. My brother, Jeff, Tommy Nelly, the Berenstain Bears. We were out here. First day, it's just a brother. It's called the Binsons, but we call them the Berenstain Bears. And day one, everyone's good, good golf, you know, energy by day three. We played the last, like, five or six holes as an eight-sum because nobody else was on property.

It took like an hour and 50 minutes. And we got down. I was like, boys, that's all I got. I got nothing left in the tank, especially when, you're rolling it into like March madness at night. Yeah, and it's 100. It was 105 degrees this weekend in Scottsdale. And to have Whisper Rock empty near the end of March is just unheard of.

That's how hot it was. It felt like end of May. Sorry to all you people under snow. Felt like in May. Yeah, call us in August though, when it's 115 here and it's nice where you live. I'm glad you had a good time. We had a great time. Shout out River Bend.

Good news is Whisper Rock's got about six days to restock after y'all drank them all. It was. It was aggressive. There's no nachos left either. No nachos. Perfect. Your bills all two dozen nachos. Every time we come, I was like, again?

Two of them? Yeah, could feed an army. So we had a great, great time, though. It's sad to be missing the member guests, but you and Morrill, I got all the faith in the world. It's going to be fun. In the world. Not really.

Let's get to our guest. He's a disaster. This week, by the way, my guest, Brinemoral, actually plays in the pro. Pro rivals open, new tour. Check it out at the Pro Tour.com. But the commissioner, John Smoltz, an MLB legend, joins us on subpar. All right, we are lucky enough to have with us one of the best slingers of the rock

in the history of baseball. He's a World Series champ. He's an eight-time All-Star Hall of Fame. And now, Commissioner of the new golf tour, the pro, which we're going to get into today. John Smoltz joins us. Smoltz, how are we doing? We're doing great. Beautiful day, playing a lot of golf.

Baseball season kicking off. A lot of opportunities to do a lot of different things. So I'm staying busy. He's a man. You got opening day coming up tomorrow, actually, as we're filming this. But before we get to that, let's talk a little bit about this world baseball classic that you were on the call for. an incredible final USA and Venezuela. What's that been like?

Because I feel like for just the casual baseball fan, they probably really don't know what the world baseball classic is, but it's been a hit the last several times. Yeah, the games have turned, the games have turned out pretty darn good. The narrative around it is a lot of back behind the scenes, things that people would never know based on unfair criticism of what's going on when it's a tournament.

Whenever you think of there's a tournament, you want to put your best in there. You want to be able to have no restrictions. The USA had all kinds of restrictions based on them. They got the championship two times in a row. Unfortunately, he lost three to two both times. And the offense and the timing of the offense was just not good. And that's the problem that I see when you're doing it in spring training.

You're asking these guys to get ramped up, which they know a year advance, and you're asking them to be midseason form. Now, the other countries have a training. tremendous amount of passion. They're playing for their country, literally, and then they come over to our country to play major league baseball for the most part, whereas we're playing for our country. There's a lot of pride, but then we stay here and you play for your respective team. So it's not perfect, but the narrative and the games and the way it played out, certainly the last couple times, made it exciting and a ton of people tuned in and viewed it, which is great. And then all of a sudden

everybody's got to return back to their teams and try to get rid of that high adrenaline rush. It would be like this. Maybe on a golf concept, think of it this way. Every pro player, pro tour player, PGA player, all they can do is hit balls and go to the practice range. And then their first tournament is the Masters. Can they get it done? Sure. But would it be best to have a tournament already or two under their belt?

Yeah, that's the difference for playing spring training baseball. and high level WBC, you're really at the mercy of the timing that you're in right there and then because you know your season has yet to be done. Yeah, definitely not ideal timing, although the games were all time. They were dramatic. And Jeter made a comment after John. It was like, you know, I think most guys, he wasn't downplaying the WBC, but he was like most guys would rather win a World Series than a WBC.

And I saw it got like a lot of run. And I was like, I don't feel like that was a controversial statement at all. But can you compare the two, like from a player perspective, World Series? WBC? Well, for the American players, it's 100% true. For the other countries who are either trying to embark on their, you know, expand the horizon for baseball, some of the smaller countries that aren't known for, like Italy, Italy did an unbelievable job just expanding the scope of baseball. Baseball is not that popular in Italy, but now it might be. Stuff like that, the WBC has always been wanting to expand its horizon, get more international people

playing baseball. But for countries like Venezuela and Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico. There's no doubt to a man they would rather win the WBC. They won the World Series. And about six, seven, eight years ago, I was kind of like taken back by that comment because I didn't understand it. But now I do, because having been up close to seeing the passion and everything that they have to do to not only leave their country and then play with everybody else, you know, and get away from their countrymen, I get it. And Albert Poole said it. He said it would be the biggest thing that's ever happened in his career if the Dominican Republic under his leadership on the WBC.

So those comments can got to get stretched and ripped apart and maybe misunderstood. And when you get underneath the layers of it, I kind of understand it now. I heard that eight years ago and I go, man, I don't agree with that. Like the World Series is the Krem La Crem.

But for these guys who have spent their life learning a new language, coming over here, playing baseball, Venezuela and those countries where it's so enriched in baseball, I get it. I understand it. So I get what Derek Jeter was saying, there's a ton of truth behind it.

But I also see the other side now, having lived it and listening to these guys talk about what it would mean. Venezuela and everything they're going through in their country, all that narrative, like I talked about, is real to that. And they are heroes. Heroes. So that's a statement, I think, to be articulated correctly. Yeah, totally.

You cut out there for a second, but I totally know where you're going with that. And you could see it in the atmosphere there in Miami for the championship. I mean, it was just insane. You're one of the best pitchers to ever do it. Before we get to golf, I just got to ask this. Shohei Otani, what he is doing in the game right now is just ridiculous. As a pitcher, how do you attack Shohei Hotani? When he's on the mound or when he's at the plate?

Yeah, it's very quick. Either way. I think when he's on the mound, you have to hope he's not on. He's just too good. I've said this. I don't know why people are so taken back by my comments talking about he would be the very best pitcher ever if all he did was pitch. And that's just the highest compliment I can give him. He's so talented.

He has five different pitches. He is a freak of nature. He's splitting time between pitching and hitting, obviously spending more time hitting than pitching. And so you can't truly be the best at that craft when you're dividing that kind of time. And so as a pitcher, he is as a good as the, I mean, I just, I think he's one of my favorite guys to watch pitch

because of his athleticism, his ability to, you know, mix and match in the strike zone. And then as a hitter, you just got to, again, there is some strikeouts in there, but if you make a mistake, he embarrasses you. He is the most generational pit player we've ever seen. And I don't know that anything will ever come close to this again. Yeah, that's so cool. This day and age, too, where you got to, like, it seems like kids start specializing

in one thing at age six. And, you know, that's what they do forever. To be modern day where a guy can, like, dominate on both sides. Like, it's not like when Babe Ruth was playing. No, exactly. Ruth. Now, to his, you know, he had more home runs than a lot of teams had collectively. That's what made him so unique and stand out in his era. But this guy has opened the door now, cracked it open for potential two-way players that we would have never entertained in our sports. Kind of like

what Dionne Sanders did in football. And you, you, in Bo Jackson, you know, in the sense of playing two sports is different than actually playing both ways in your sport and doing something so unique that, you know, we've never seen before. I wonder if Shohay golfs. I'm sure if he does. How about he's good at it? I wouldn't bet against him learning that game if he hadn't played it and mastering it as fast as anyone else just because of his uniqueness.

You've got to have the special mindset that he has had. He documented his whole journey as a young kid. He spoke it into existence. He wrote it down. He talked about it and what he was going to do and accomplish everything so far that he wrote down. Yeah, he's remarkable, man. We are in a special time right now. Yeah.

Find him up for the next pro. Maybe after he's done play. But let's talk about the pro. You are the commissioner. Pro rivals open, this tour that you have started with a bunch of former athletes. You got one coming up here next week

in Biloxi, Mississippi, at a fantastic golf course, Fallen Oak down there. I've played it. It is hard and it is good. But how did this whole idea come about to get this pro tour going? Yeah, so I guess maybe because of my pitching days,

I've had so much time to think once every five days, we, you know, we pitched in the next four days I could kick back. I've had this idea for a long time and met the right man and Tim Wilbanks about almost two years ago now. And we have carved this thing out. It started as a rider cup, which baseball dominated. And then it went to specifically only sports only tournaments, which was going to be unique.

We did a football one and then realized, you know what, these guys are starving for more tournaments. We're only giving them one. Let's give them the opportunity to play individually and go for, you know, a championship. So I have probably 150 pages of notes. I write everything down. I think about things and how to uniquely put them together. And so this idea of where now we're going to take all the major sports, the four major

sports and then any others that qualify, and we're going to have a golf tournament and a tour around it. And elite athletes that have played in their eras have done something special in their sports. And then when they're done playing, they've got nothing. Like the competition's gone. And so isolated, celebrity events have always been out there.

Kind of tickles everybody's fantasy, if you will, but then now this has come along. We're the place where you're going to come when you retire. Like at a high athlete who's competed at the highest levels, we're going to attract a lot of those guys who now know golf has a longer

expiration date. You know, you can play golf all into your 70s competitively and if you keep your body in place. So that's how it formed and now we're excited. Look, I am, I was the golf concierge in baseball when I was playing. I was the games committed. Like I did all set everything up, set up the tournaments, set up the brackets.

Like I was always pushing guys to do something, you know, when we'd have off days or, you know, 162 games. It's a long season. You've got to have things to do. So I'm used to these kind of things. The one thing that I love about our tour is not only are we going to crown a champion, but we're going to do it a unique way. I think it's one of the best playoff models. that will be, I'm telling you, the Tour Championship will go to it.

We're going to take the top 40 and go down to the top 30. And in the top 30, now, I believe PGA could do it a little differently, but we're going to take two-round shootout to get down to the final eight and do the final eight match play. And so the shootout in our sport is going to be pretty cool because we're going to guarantee the top baseball, basketball, football, and hockey player, they all get a seat in the final eight. and then the final four highest playishers in that two-round shootout

are going to be in the final eight and then we're going to go one eight two seven all the way down to the champions and I think the one thing about you know golf it's hard to have playoff atmosphere eliminators and this is one way to do it you know this is a way to have two rounds to position yourself into the final eight and then in match play anything can happen I get it in the PGA you know one one could lose to the 120th ranked player I get all that. But if you have some form of metal play, in our case, Stableford play, and the two-round and three-round, whatever it is, shootout to get to that playoff,

there's going to be so much jockey and so much positioning, and you're going to have the integrity of our tour be represented by every sport. And that's what our model shows for this year. We want the top eight in each sport get to the final 40, and then from there the top four in each sport get to the top 30, and then the remaining top point getters fill up the void, and then, like I said, the top one. So anyone in our sport,

if you left it up strictly to stroke play and the best player wins, there's very few players that are going to beat some of our top players. But if you have a qualifier that gets you to the top eight, then anybody can win in the mass play, and that's what I like about it. Yeah, no question. Yeah, it's an awesome concept.

I absolutely love it. Names, tell us some of the top players that are playing on the pro. Yeah, so from outside, Inside the major sports, we got Marty Fish, who's one of the most elite polished golfers, celebrity golfers on any tour, especially ours. Taylor Twillman and soccer.

And then from the major sports, baseball has a slew of guys that have just been dominant with so far in our sport. Tyler Clippert has won two epic playoffs in two consecutive tournaments. He is obviously got the Breggin rights. He's got the only two wins. We got guys like Aaron Hicks who can hit at 350, Josh Donaldson,

Justin Upton. Myself is kind of in the top eight along with Mark Mulder and Cody Ross. We've got so many players in the depth of our roster that the actual competition to get to the top eight will be great in baseball alone. In basketball, you got Ray Allen, Gerald Hush, and John Berry.

Tony Kukotch has only played in one event. Mike Smith is a really good player. Football. Tony Romo, of course, and Garrett Graham. There's a lot of good. guys that Tyler Ifer, there's a lot of guys you would go, man, I didn't expect that big dude to hit the ball like that and be that established. Hockey, Joe Pavelski is probably the class. A hard tour from a standpoint of consistency. He's won a bunch of events in the last two years.

You got Jeremy Ronek. He got a lot of great, great hockey players that basically in their sport had kind of, with their, you know, shooting a puck, it kind of goes hand in hand. But, you know, with him a golf shot. And this thing about tournament golf, as you guys know, everybody can shoot great scores in their local country club matches and in their giggle golf that I call it with no pressure. We have 40 guys that are so-called plus or scratch. 40 guys.

But all 40 guys are not showing up on that leaderboard based on tournament golf. What's going to happen in our tour, we're going to see guys' games go to the next. level because they're going to learn how to play tournament golf the pace of play we want as commissioner my number one rule is you better play in four hours and 20 minutes but we got a problem we're pushing we're pushing fast fun competitive and obviously we're the best trash talking tour in all of america so those things go hand in hand and and we're going to you know in another tournament we're going to end up going live and showing a lot of this content that we've been slow walking up to this point because because we want to create and we have created, about 130 to 140 guys for 80 spots every tournament. So calendars, requirements, invitations. That's how we have a model where our top 40 players

get invited every tournament that they're in the top 40 and the bottom 40 with the other 40 and 60 get shuffled back in. So we're creating this desire to want to get better. And golf, we're not trying to compete with anybody else. The PGA Tour, the Corn Fairy, Everybody below that would run circles around us. But what you are going to see is the athleticism of these guys learning how to play a game that they are enjoying and they love.

And the energy is there. It's renewed. It's like our pro-am experience is going to be phenomenal because we're not burned out. You know, we're not doing this for a living. We get to do this. So there's a lot of cool things that I get to be a part of from the ground up. And I'm just so excited about the growth of it. Yeah, they're going to one of these is like a dream thing for any sports fan, any sport at all.

You don't have to really like golf. You might just show up to see your favorite baseball player or basketball player. Like that's a cool aspect of it too. There's something for everyone. There is. And we're creating kind of like a VIP experience where it's intimate. We're not going to have, we're not trying to compete with some of the big tournaments that are out there like Tahoe, which is a special and unique place.

And they draw 50,000 people and rightfully so. We're creating that experience that, to your point, that you either rooted for or rooted against some of these guys. And you're going to get to play with multiple players. In our pro-am deal, we have two players play in each pro-am for nine holes, and we get another two. So each pro-am group is going to get four athletes that they're going to get to play with. And then we create what hopefully is going to be something that we have kind of slayed

is we'll have these fireside-type chats where we're talking to these athletes and doing a Q&A. And you get to get an insight behind the scenes of what it was like to play basketball or hockey or baseball. So this tour has been in the making for a long time. Just no one's been able to carve it out in a way that, you know, makes sense for longevity. And I'll be shocked from everybody who just doesn't retire in the next year or two doesn't come knocking on the door and say, I'm ready.

And that's beautiful because you've got a lot of young guys that are retiring sooner and quicker and quicker. And so the shelf life for golf, like I said, is a lot longer. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, everyone that we've talked to that has played in these events just raves about it. I mean, from how they get treated to the stuff they get. Each sport has their own locker room. And I heard, by the way, it's not even close.

Highest bar tab is definitely the hockey guys. Oh, it's not even close. And it's part of the reason. I'm going to be honest. You know, this is not trash talking because they wore me out during the Rider Cup. They thought they were going to come in and just roll in and wipe out baseball. They didn't even make it to the championship. So they got a lot of work to do.

And Joe Pavelsky can't hold up their entire, you know, he can't. carry the whole freight but it's part of the reason why look you know you're going to make some decisions at night and they're a fun bunch they're so fun to hang around with you just can't hang around long enough with them because you're not going to make it to your tea time the next day you get morrow and holly together uh i mean they're professionals jornec yeah that leads to my next question i'm sorry go ahead there is no doubt they are the elite level when it comes to combining certain beverages and playing sports the next day. We have a recovery room, and I just didn't realize,

I guess I'm naive because I don't do that. And we had the most guys I've ever seen getting IVs in my life to play golf. And most of them are lucky. Yep. Yeah, you're going to need a recovery trailer here pretty soon. And you may have alluded to it here, but I was going to ask you. Because there's a lot of guys there that they love the competitive spirit. They want to win.

They're there to win. There's a lot of guys that just want to compete. fun, be social. Off the course, who do you think is the social MVP? Who's the ringleader getting the boys going? Oh, man, there's so many. There really is. I've been impressed by the collaborated effort of guys hanging,

getting to know each other, getting to be part of the fray, if you will. You know, basketball doesn't have a lot of players, but the ones they have have been super engaging, and they're trying to get, you know, they're trying to get to the level where they can compete on the golf course. But, you know, Josh Donaldson is in a league of his own. I think he goes to bed talking. Like, he just never stops talking.

And usually it's talking about himself, which is what I love. And, you know, we love competing against him for that reason. But we have, you know, we have so many classy guys. And hockey really, hockey really does check every bucket when it comes to. you know, hanging with people and giving them the best of their times because they're a special group, man. They have been playing a sport that is crossed between football, you know, and I mean, they're going on skate.

So it's been a fun getting to know guys. I would never know, you know, unless I play with them. And then everybody wants to play with everybody. So that's a pretty cool deal. Absolutely. It's the hockey boys. They're just different breed. But we all know about your love for golf.

I mean, you've been playing forever. You've played in the U.S. Senior Open. You're very competitive. But through your time between baseball and playing a lot of golf, you've become very good friends with Tiger Woods. Can you tell us a little bit of how that started and how much golf have you played with him? Yeah, so early back in our days when we were both much younger

and I was in the heat of my career and he was number one forever, we met in an All-Star Cafe grand opening when he was just about to enter the tour and, you know, just kind of standing there by himself and went up to him and introduced myself. obviously I knew who he was. We were going to be in Orlando doing our thing in spring training. I knew he lived there and I gave him my number.

I said, any time you want to come to a game or play golf, you know, anything would be great. And man, we played so much golf and had so much fun. And he's been to a lot of playoff games. And obviously his record speaks for itself. But nobody can understand what I got to see personally at the driving range, at the, you know, watching him chip and put. The golf rounds, you just never wanted to wake him up.

Because at any moment he could go in a six under round, you know, a seven under make it look like it was nothing. But I think just how competitive he is. And, you know, he was in a whole different social circle. I mean, the whole world was trying to get to know, you know, when the number one player in the world, everybody wants something. And I think that was the coolest part of just hanging with Tiger all those years and playing. And I learned so much and watching him and knowing what he does.

I could understand why he's the best, you know, that ever did it. And he just loves sports. He loves baseball. And like I said, he's been to some of the playoff games and sat and I had a, you know, a luxury box at the stadium and got a chance to go to watch him every time I could. I know on the big screen and a big tournament. But one of the coolest and most memorable times I've ever had. And I know people have heard about this, but, you know, I got a chance to play Augusta with him right

before the Masters, you know, right where the cutoff point is where you can't play it anymore. And my manager gave me an opportunity during spring training to leave and jump on his bird and his plane and get up there and play golf and he had me back. And watch him play with Sunday 10s. Every pen was a Sunday pen. Obviously, it did that for him. And, you know, he has to play with a member like anybody else. I got to see firsthand why that was like his backyard golf course, like why he was going to win.

if he stayed healthy, why he would have won that so many more times because of just he never, it was boring. It was a boring 66. If that's even possible, he never had a ball above the hole. He never hit it out of position. And, you know, here I am playing from the same T's thinking, I could do this, man. I'm a hanged tiger in Augusta. And I quickly realized there was no chance of that.

Man, what experience. That's all world. Yeah, give me your low round at Augusta. follow around 72 but it's not really comparable because you know gustav depending on time in the year and their transition of the grass and the fairways you know you're not truly getting the experience always closer up to now that day i got the experience i shot 76 in the backtees and i thought that was one of my better rounds when he shot 66 but i've shot 72 at at augusta but i would say in fairness you know that was with 23 putt so now what do you think about this never going to happen if the greens are not passed you got up and down a lot which is no just a fluke this round but but to me getting an understanding of knowing where to hit the ball and and playing that tournament tv doesn't quite do justice of the terrain and it's why people don't understand physically fit and not having limitations why it's hard to play that golf course it may look

of like nothing as far as rough and the contours on TV maybe don't get exposed as much. But you got to, that's a tough golf course to walk, in my opinion, because it's so, or so filled with terrain. Absolutely. Yeah, 72, 76, whatever it is. Playing Augusta with Tiger before the Masters, I mean, that's like every golfer's, that's their dream day, like in life. And you got to do it.

But I'm curious because, I mean, you're a Hall of Famer. You shared the dugout with, you know, Hall of Famers. You've been around all the biggest celebrities. Was there anything about Tiger? Like Starstruck's probably not the right word? Was there ever like, oh, wow. Like, this guy's different. Well, yeah.

I mean, that's what I'm saying. Look, I told everybody I took to play with Tiger. It took a lot of teammates. And I said, if you talk trash, first of all, I'm going to get real mad at you because he's going to bait you into talking trash. Don't talk trash. Keep his antennas low. And I'll never forget, you know, one of my...

Actually, it was my own fault. But some of the guys would talk trash and it would wake him up. and he would go to that nuclear level, which I never wanted to see because we had our wagers, and it certainly didn't always turn out favorable. But there was one particular day on the fifth hole, part three, that we had a fivesome, and it was the scorecard read 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. There's five scores, five different guys, and a hole in one. And I decided to pick the ball out of the hall.

It was my buddy who got the hole in one, 12 handicapper. And I said, Gotti, what's more believable when we get back home that you've got a hole in one or beat Tiger by four on one hole. He gave me the universal finger sign and went 12 under the next 12, 12 under the next 22 holes. By 27 holes, it was one of the greatest displays of golf, and it was like, oh, really? Okay, is that what we're going to do now?

And it's just, it reminds me of the Stephen Ames, you know, quotes that he had was matchplay. And, you know, those things about Tiger, Michael Jordan, they're in a level of willingness. Like they will it. There's no farm. They do have the most incredible gifted, freakish ability,

but they have a desire and a will and a creativity that is unmatched. Like, you do not want to go up against a Michael Jordan or a Tiger Woods and talk trash. I don't care what you've done in your life. You're going to lose. And that's the thing when, you know, what, there was a scientific evidence

of what the stroke advantage was for Tiger when he walked on the course with the other tour. They just felt, they felt that pressure and that ambiance when he would come down. This is a tiger roar. And this is it. And I just, I just, I saw it. I saw it up close. I knew that something you just can't, it's so unique.

You can't manufacture it. You can't inject it in somebody. It's something that is going to happen organically and it happened with them. That is so well said. And by the way, though, what a story for your buddy to say, yeah. Well, guess what? I beat the greatest ball of time by four on one whole. One old.

Doesn't matter. But that's an all story. All right. Before we let you get out here, let's get to the E9 real quick. We've got some fun questions. Maybe a few from some of your buddies that we're going to get to. But you've obviously had an incredible career on the baseball diamond. Now on the golf course.

There's a movie made about the life of John Smolz. Who are you picking to play you? Wow. Ali. Question. It has to be somebody goofy. somebody goofy loves to have fun I could see Bill Murray doing it

I like that I don't know that's a great question Bill Murray that's good somebody that is just loves to have fun and you know be serious when you need to be serious but would rather laugh you're unlike most of our guys

your movie actually has a chance of being made so that might actually have to review that most people it doesn't matter I'll give you one here for the pro tour. Give me one former athlete right now who's not playing on your tour that you'd love to have. Oh, I love to have Tom Brady.

One of those two. Yeah, they should. Both in it. I don't know the game. I don't know Tom at all. Peyton is the best, dude. Talking about having fun, loving golf. He'd be perfect.

Yeah, yeah. They're both iconic and love golf. Yeah, put him and Eli together and just let him go at it. All right. Well, speaking of having fun and being goofy, I've been told Dumb and Dumber is one of your favorite movies ever and that you can basically recite it better than Jeff Daniels.

So give me John Smolz's favorite Dumb and Dumber line. You need the line? I need your favorite line from Dumb and Dumber. First one that comes to mine, or just your favorite. Yeah, the one that comes to mine, and you can use it in so many instances, and I used it to almost overkill. I just like when you can get to a place,

whether you've done something in a team aspect or done something wrong and you can go, you totally redeemed yourself. I think it's one of the greatest lines just when you've done something so stupid, you totally redeemed yourself. And I like redeeming myself, even if I've made fun of myself or made a mistake.

I've used a couple lines in the booth. it's gotten some traction. But yeah, that's that's one of the thing. And then, you know, there's all kinds that I'll remember that I can't remember, you know, when I'm trying to do a voiceover. But that's one that dumb and dumber,

I make no bones about it. It's one of my favorite movies. I mean, how can you know? I mean, if that's on, you're not turning the channel. It's just, it's so good. No. No. I don't know what year that was.

They did and they should now, but yeah, I don't know what year, that came out, but like, no bullshit. That's probably a daily. I use at least, at least one line from dumb and dumber. Daily. It's probably been 25 years, I would assume. Yeah.

Something like that. All-timer. All right, we ask this to a lot of our baseball players, John. I want to ask you to give me the best prank that you ever pulled off or witnessed during your time playing. There's a million of them. But the best prank I pulled off was two guys were having a feud. So I could slip in there.

and get to the one guy, and it would each think it's each other. And it was back in the day when you could actually get the key to your buddy's room and go in there, now you can't, right? But I beat the team to the hotel. I got the room key and said,

I had to drop this off at my teammates' room. I took out all of the light bulbs. I took out the batteries. I turned the heat way up. I short sheeted as bad. I took out the toilet paper. I took out everything that you could possibly want. And then I put shins.

on the lid of the toilet. And everything that you think could happen went wrong absolutely did, including him when he went down on the toilet, slid off and fell on the ground. And then when he had to finish, there was nothing. There was nothing. So to me, that was classic of, you know, and he had no idea I did it. And he, I called it the other teammate that he thought it would happen. I said, give me a play-by-play when he calls you. And you know what made him the, it would make me the most mad. Sitting on your bed after getting in a long road trip and clicking the TV and knowing that it doesn't work. And just that along with other things that we take for granted.

I had more fun. But the other prank that really was number one for me is I took over a bell stand during a 3.30 arrival in Chicago when the bellman was busy taking bags. And when everybody calls from the room, you know who it is. And I jacked with every one of my teammates with an accent. I mean, I buried them. Imagine a bellman just ragging you or saying things that you would, and it was one of the, and when the Belmont came back and saw me there, he got mad, of course, but I had about 20 minutes of just unadulperated fun,

and I had more guys coming down to get their bag mad because of the way I set it up, because we would just wait for our bags at like 4 o'clock in the morning. And I just had more fun with the guys that didn't do some damage, but had a lot of fun that you knew you were going to be reciprocal on at some point, and they certainly got me over time. That's good. I like that. Did the dude ever find out that it was you?

Did you ever come cleaning back any of that was actually me with the toilet and stuff? The time I came through when we did a charity roast of me, and he was one of the roasters, if that's the word, he roasted me. And so when it was all said and done, when I had my rebuttal, I went, oh, by the way, I did all that stuff in New York, and he got all. all flustered because he realized that it wasn't the other player that he would have a feud with. Oh, that's perfect. That's good.

That's nice. I like that. All right. Next, I'm going to put you on the spot here, and you've got to try to guess which one of your friends said this. But he said, quote, for John Smoltz, baseball has been an excuse to play golf for 40 years. It could be anybody. It could be Maddox. It could be clavin.

It would be one of those two. So you don't deny it, which is awesome. No, listen, we all talk about what, how it length. lengthened our careers. There's a lot of, there's a lot of myths in sports and myths in life. And everyone thinks that, you know, if you're playing golf, you may not be, we never took our sport for granted. We were so prepared. It lengthened our career. When you're playing once every five days and you can go crazy, the four days in between. And you know what people don't understand about golf, they think, you know, oh, man, if you're a hack, I get why certain

clubs wouldn't want you to play because of injuries and so. But think about it. I'm only hitting the golf ball about 36 times at average around and I'm doing the majority of the rest putting. I'm only hitting a driver 12 times and I'm hitting the majority of my shots inside of 100 yards. When you break it down and really think

about how strenerous could that be, all my successes eventually got attributed to the fact that I was relaxed from golf, especially when it came to closing. When I went to the closer's role, everybody was worried about me playing golf. Oh, this is going to fail. Now how can he play?

play golf today, he's going to close a game. Well, I told everybody, I don't close a game until 11 o'clock at night. And I'm playing golf at 7.308 o'clock, and I come back to the room, take a nap, and I sit around waiting to perform. And then after 55 saves, nobody said another word about the amount of golf I was playing. So the one thing about golf is you're going to be blamed for your lack of successes, whether they're legit or not. Over the course of time, of course, people realized it had nothing to do with anything.

Well, to just to let you know, it was your old broadcast partner, Joe, buck who's the one who told me about you've been using baseball's excuse to play golf and since you mentioned the uh well do go ahead when you said former player then that would have yes your buck 100% i can see you're saying um you mentioned the save situation we got to ask about your your walkout song when you came into save because i believe it started off as dancing queen well that's what got me a walkout song i told them in spring training they said what's you're going to be your go-to song, your walkout song. I said, that's dumb. I don't have one. I'm trying to get three outs before they tie the game. And so they said, are you serious? I said, you play whatever you want.

I literally will not be paying attention to the song. When I came out to Dancing Queen, I knew somebody had either put them up to it or there was a mistake. I knew that I had to change that quickly because that is not your macho walkout song. And the on deck circled, the guy in the batters box laughing. So that's where ACDC got birthed. And I really did get into it for a guy who didn't care in the beginning. It became a pretty intense song. And luckily, I was good enough to make that song worth the intimidation that if it had any when I came into the game.

That's awesome. It worked. Did you ever find out who did Dancing Queen though? That's funny. They said they made a mistake in the front office. Yeah. And they came panicking running down. I said, look, you indirectly made your point.

I'll get a song to you with the ball. I'm going to wait for the bullpen to come up with it. and the rest is history. You'll have a song tomorrow. That's a strange mistake. We went to play Thunderstruck, but we accidentally hit Dancing Queen, which we also had just queued up.

Sorry, John, you played in a U.S. Senior Open, which you talked about at the Broadmoor. So what would make you more nervous, a five-foot downhill, left-the-right slider to qualify for a U.S. Senior Open or Barry Bond's walking up to the plate and your prime base is loaded?

Not even close. Just the five-foot or whatever, anything that has to do with golf. I've learned so much about myself and the tension of golf. I had the ultimate belief no matter who was at the plate, whether I succeeded or not, it wasn't going to eat because of nerves. And the nerves in golf, because I'm not familiar with certain angles or shots, always come to the forefront of I can't believe I felt that way.

I'm getting better with it. More tournaments I play in, but it's not even close. I'd rather have bases loaded nobody out 3-0. Base in Barrymox. Damn. Every time. Deal with that. And I love to compete.

And I love thinking that I can make every pot, which not even close. But that U.S. Open Qualifier was the most intense thing I've ever been part of. And, you know, I'm hoping to do another one. I was close last year, got to the final stage, but didn't get it done. And I just think that's the ultimate challenge. And that's the golf. That's awesome. That's love for the game.

All right. Last one for me. Listen, whether it's golf or whatever sport we play, like somebody always gets the best of us. They have our number. So I want to know who's had your number more. Mark Grace on the baseball diamond or Josh Donaldson on the golf course. Well, Josh Donaldson, whether he does or does, I'm going to tell you he has.

And right now it's Josh Donaldson and golf. And I'm coming at, look, the guy hits at 60, 70 yards by me. That's okay. He's like 17 years younger than me. That's all right. I nipped him this last tournament. And it's going to be a consistency to my game that he's going to have to appreciate. Mark Grace, quietly.

dominated me on the baseball field. There was nothing flashy about him. He's just a great player that he just dominated me. I can safely say Josh Donaldson will not have that same impacting golf. 100%. I don't care how far he hits it by me. I don't care how much trash he talks. You've got to put it in the little hole like I do. And so far it's two Donaldson, one smalls. So that's not that big of a spread right now. And I've got my work cut up for me because we're playing a tough course, as you mentioned and fallout. So the long ball hitters are going to have a huge advantage. But that's okay.

I've learned how to knit my way around the golf course and stay in the mix and then wait for somebody to have their blog. I like this. I like this rivalry. Donaldson and that shootout at the end when it gets whittled down at the tour championship. By the way, Gracie told me, I believe he had 173 home runs. And for some reason, he just had your number.

He hit seven of his home runs off of you. Yeah. It was one of those things early in my career. I didn't have anything to get left-handed out. And I didn't have much to get left-handers out or didn't swing and miss. And he didn't. So it was the perfect storm.

And I challenged him in areas that didn't work. I wish I would add my split working for him when the latter part of my career. But yes, he did. I tip my hat to him. He's a beauty. He remembers how many he had on you and probably nobody else. So that's something. That's good.

Yeah. That's it. All right. That's it, John. Well, hey, John, real quick, before we let you get out of here, if the people want to come out and watch, like are they allowed to at all these pro-rivals tournaments, or is it just certain ones?

Or how does that work? We are getting the pro-tour.com. You can check it out. We're going to have information for people coming up at PGA and National in West Palm Beach where there's going to be opportunities to do that. We're not a big crowd-type tournament at this point. We're going to have some streaming opportunities. There's a lot of things that will be coming.

coming and the VIP and the pro am and all those things will be you'll check out in our socials the opportunities that are coming so that's the best way right now to keep in track and that's going to be April 20th week so we're excited about getting down there after what just happened at the PGA tour event that just played of course a couple weeks ago yeah pro tour dot com go check it out john smoltz you're the man thank you so much for joining us appreciate it guys thanks for at me. All right, that was 21-year MLB vet, and now pro-tour commissioner, John Smolts, joining us on subpar.

How about the stories playing golf with Tiger? I didn't realize they were that close. Playing right before Augusta? Right before they close it down for everybody. I mean, that's like the dream of all dreams. Getting to play with Tiger, just getting to know him, but especially doing stuff like that. He loves his golf.

I mean, he's like, you know, obviously qualified for the Senior Open. It was like, oh, I'd be way more nervous for a put than I would with Barry at the plate. And this tour he's built, like, we have a, dude, we have a ton of, we, I'm serious, we got to go to one and just post up because there's so many guys, they all have a good time. We have a ton of friends that play it, a bunch more that want to play it. I think, like, as this thing goes, like, you put that many stars and guys that people are fans of out there, I think it's going to take off if it hasn't already. Yeah, everybody that plays it absolutely loves it. And Josh Donaldson, sounds like Smoltsy's coming for you, bud. You better get ready.

Target on your back. There, Mr. Donaldson. Then it's no surprise. Like, yo, who's the ringleaders of all the bullshit? Hockey. Shocker. They remain unbeaten. Bar-tab, not even close.

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