Subpar - Justin Thomas rates Jordan Spieth as his Best Man, Tiger’s chances to win again on the PGA Tour

Episode Date: January 9, 2024

On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar, former World No. 1 Justin Thomas joins Colt Knost and Drew Stoltz for an exclusive interview. The 2-time PGA Championship winner talks this year's event taking place in his hometown, his relationship with Tiger Woods over the years and how Jordan Spieth performed as the best man at his wedding. ----- Subscribe Now: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt5ESUx6omMUsMoEKvMTzlA Shop The Birdie Juice Collection: https://fairwayjockey.com/collections/birdie-juice Follow Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/golf_subpar/?hl=en Follow Twitter: https://twitter.com/golf_subpar?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

We're back. Subpar returns for our first episode of 2024. Sleez, good to be back with you after our two-week off-season. That's it. We're back. We're in action. The PGA Tour is back in action. I feel like there's the quickest couple weeks in the history.

Going to be a long month. I believe you're on this as well, but I've agreed to with a small group of friends do a little three-week cleansing. Not the full month of dry January or whatever. It became a period of time there during the holidays where we kind of looked at each other like, what are we doing? I mean, how long can we keep doing this? So I'm on a three week. I'm on day three of a three week cleanse the body. And we're coming in hot.

Are you just doing this leading up to WM Phoenix? Yeah, I want to be, I want to feel like I'm having my first drink ever on the week where I'm going to have 2,000 of them. Yeah, I think it's smart. Well, I hope everyone had a great holiday out there. And it's good to be back with y'all. This is our 200th episode of Subpar,

and we got a great one for you. Before we get to our very special guest, talk a little bit golf. PJ Tour is back. Chris Kirk picks up his sixth PGA tour win down at the century in Hawaii. 29 under par, that is all, to win by one over Soth the Gala in a week where there weren't many bogeys made. Sung J.M. set a PGA tour record making 34 birdies in 72 holes. Sunday scoring average was the lowest in the history of the PGA tour.

This is the average of 59 guys was 66.67, I believe, and the par 73. You had to shoot seven under basically just to keep pace. On our radio show, I picked Lubig Obert to win the golf tournament. He shoots 10 under in the final round and moved up like nine spots. Normally you shoot a little 10 piece in the final round. You move up pretty good. Wasted him on that, but dude is just a shootout. It felt like four days of a Monday qualifier.

It's like the feeling I got to think out there was like, if you make a bogey, like, oh my God, I'm dead. There's no way I can keep pace. But Chris Kirk did it. 29 under. I thought there was a chance. Someone might get to 30 that last day. but man, he wasn't a name that a lot of people were floating starting out the week,

but what a week for him? If they didn't have win on Saturday, it definitely would have got to 30 under par. But Chris Kirk, obviously, a lot's been made about his story, which I think they make more about that than actually how good of a golfer he is. I mean, this is a guy, he was a Ben Hogan Award winner, an All-American at Georgia, a monster, played on the U.S. Walker Cup team in 07 with us over at Royal County Down. He's now won six times. I mean, this guy's the real deal.

Six times, and he's just a talent. Like, they talked to him about, like, they get the story about how he's been playing golf left-handed after the FedEx Cup playoffs, everybody's kind of burnt out once a little break. He did not play golf right-handed for like three or four weeks and got to the point where he shot 82 left-handed, which if you've ever gone out there from the opposite side and played actual holes, it's one thing to be able to hit like a driver off the T and stuff once you get like chipping, putting, bunker is just like game over. You might never get out of it. But 82, he's just a talent and watching that tempo over and over, man. And the way he rolls it too. Like he played his

ass off out there. I mean, you had to. You had to do it for four days. 29 under. That's 34 by Sungjay. That could hang around for a long, long time. That's like a perfect storm. Playing great and also great conditions on the course at the right time. Eight tweets around? Pretty hard for anyone to average better than that. I mean, maybe at the American Express out in Palm Springs, but still, I don't know.

There's a reason that's a record. He beat it by two. Yeah, he clipped it. That's going to be around for a long time. Also, shout out big news to our good friend Max Homa, who is now officially the longest driver in the history of the game. of the Shotlink era, which is basically the history of the game for long hitting. 477 yards in the third round, as he noted on Twitter, uphill, slight puff, and mostly carry. Jason Zubak, Jamie Sedlowski, Kyle Berkshire, now in Maccoma.

Max. Let's just hope the PJ Ture can hang on to him. He doesn't start chasing that world-long drive circuit. Also this week, Kevin Kisner made his debut in the booth as elite analyst for NBC and Golf Channel alongside Dan Hicks and Kurt Byram. I thought he was great. It's his first time. no one should expect him to go in there and be absolutely perfect, not to be a Nick Fowdo, a Johnny Miller or anything like that.

Kiz is Kiz. I thought he showed a lot of his personality, had some fun with it. I loved when, like one of the first things he did, they were getting ready to go to break. And Dan Hicks goes, Kiz wants you go ahead and send us to break.

And he goes, I told you on the production meeting, I don't take it to commercial or I don't come out of commercial. On live TV. It's clear. That's Kiz. Very clear. And that's why they want to have kids in there is like,

you know, sometimes when guys get in the booth, like, get in there and they try to be like the broadcaster and they become like a broadcast version of themselves going into that i was like i hope kids is just kids because that's why everybody wants them to be in there i thought it did a great job but that it's a different world stepping in there and i thought they did a great job in the booth like kick into him he had some like personal insight on all the guys especially chris kirk having another georgia guy you know win the golf tournament

but uh he was awesome i think if he wants to do it more there be more than happy to have him in there he'll get more and more comfortable we're going to have him here for the phoenix open which is right up his alley. I mean, that thing he can get a little loose anyways. But yeah, shout out Kiz. I thought he was, he sounded very comfortable. He sounded like Kiz in the booth. And we'll see where they go.

Because I know they're going to give a few guys a run at that thing. We'll see where they end up. They got to make a decision soon because they got, what, U.S. Open is their first major, I think? In June. Yeah. And then the Open Championship in July. But it was great. He took a shot at Jordan Speath for taking too long over a three-footer.

Yeah. Not getting him, bud. He's great. He's great. Some great insight, I thought, about Scotty Shefetch, putting what he thought he would like to see him change to put better. It was great, man. I love this. I love the guys that are, you know, I wouldn't say still out there because there's so much money to be made playing golf nowadays. If you can be out there, that's probably where you should be. But I like

getting these fresh voices that were recently involved that know the players very well, know what's going on on the PGA tour. I think those are the people that make the best analyst. I don't think we need a major champion or some crazy resume to be up there in the 18th Tower talking golf. Yeah, I don't think you have to have a major champion. Like we've talked about before, Like if you're going, are you got to have a major just sit in that spot and you're not playing golf anymore? Because that's the only guys that are willing to do it. That's a very small pool.

Then you're like, you got to be a major champion and you got to talk really well and be in front of a camera and do that really well. Then you're talking about a couple guys that can fill that spot. I just think you need to play golf at some level. There's a difference between playing great golf and being good at talking about golf. But I think he's like, I think he's still got a ton of good golf left him. I don't think he's looking for it to be a full-time gig, but it's like, let's try it out. Let's see how it goes.

And it might give him a new shot of life. on playing golf because I'm pretty sure he's having more fun out there playing than he is in the booth. But it's there for the, it's there for the opportunity's there, I think. The pool to pick from is so small. Like, I mean, if you want all the, you have to meet all those certain requirements. I mean, there's not a Nick Fowdo or a Johnny Miller sitting out there just waiting to come into the booth that has that kind of resume that hasn't made a gazillion dollars and needs to continue working. Yeah, you got to want to do that job too. That's a lot of weeks on the road. You're traveling damn near like you're on the PJA tour. And if you've got it made and you're kicked back and

had a long career on the PGA tour. Like, dude, do I want to go travel like that anymore? I don't know. Like we said, they're going to try some other guys. I'm very interested to see, I think Jeff Ogilvy will get a crack at it at some point. I think he's going to be very, very good. Also, a little foreshadowing. He'll be coming on the show here in the next handful of weeks as he makes his way back

to Scottsdale. But they're going to try a few different guys. But I thought kids did very, very well in his debut in there and look forward to seeing him at Phoenix Open, too. Yeah, he'll be tanned it up this week at the Sony Open. And as well, Gary Woodland, which we were very excited. I talked to him this morning, said, you're ready to rock? He goes, we're about to find out.

So shocking, having brain surgery in September. Obviously, been going through all the rehab, trying to get back. And I can't believe it's happening this soon. He went to Hawaii about 10 days ago with his caddy, family. They're over there practicing, playing, seeing how the game feels. I'm guessing the doctor's cleared him. And he's going to give it a go this week at the Sony, a place he's played well. but I don't think the results matter this week.

The fact that he's just out there teeing it up is fantastic. And I'm very excited to see Gary back out on the PGA. Yeah, I don't care if he shoots 62 every day or 82 every day, just the fact that he's healthy enough to go out there and play. You know, after the surgery, we didn't know when we'd see him again. I've actually been talking to Ben Shoman out of, you know, Cobra Golf and he's like, dude, he's hitting it good right now. He looks really good.

So I know that, you know, he's optimistic about it. But in terms of score, who cares? I think there's a whole new perspective for Gary Woodland going forward. but so glad he's back out there, man. Yeah, best of luck this week, Gdub, we're all rooting for you. And last but not least, before we get to our guests, it's the end of an era. Tiger Woods and Nike have decided to part ways after 27 years.

It is going to be crazy to not see Tiger in the swoosh out there when he teased it up on the PGA tour in major championships. I mean, this partnership, unbelievable. What him and Phil Knight did. Someone put the contract together, 27 years. Tiger made over $500 million from Nike. I think Nike made more. They sold over a billion dollars worth of apparel in merchandise.

I mean, just unbelievable. I mean, Tiger changed the game. So unbelievable run for these two. Both sides benefited tremendously from this partnership. But it's just going to be crazy to see Sunday, Tiger possibly in contention in a major, not wearing the red shirt, black pants. He'll be wearing red and black. There's no doubt about that.

But to not have the swoosh, it's just crazy. I mean, he is Nike golf. Nike wasn't even in the golf game before Tiger came through their 97 Masters. and boom all of a sudden. I mean, that was our era when we were coming up in junior golf. If you go to junior golf tournament, I mean, every kid out there, swoosh hat, swoosh hat, swoosh hat, and then the T-dub line comes along and all that. I mean, he changed the game.

He made $500 million from Nike. They did pretty well, too, so shake some hands, go forward, and convince Tiger's going to land on his feet. He'll be okay. He won't be going to golf galaxy or PJ Tour superstar buying close. I don't think he's having trouble finding a deal. Steinie's probably got something lined up if I had to guess. Can you imagine if he decides to get rid of all his Nike stuff?

I mean, my God. Auction. City on that. Well, just friends are going to benefit tremendously. Yeah, it would be nice. Yeah, keep him close if you're in that circle. Well, one of his friends is our first guest of 2024 on subpar. Like I said, our 200th episode, we got our man.

He was looking for to rebound massively this year on the PGA tour. Had a disappointing year for him, finished 71st in the FedEx, just missing out on the playoffs. But he was a member of the Ryder Cup team. He's a two-time major champion and also making his second appearance on subpar. We got our man JT, Justin Thomas in the building. Yeah. Sure you would have probably rather had been at Capulua. But if you're not going to be at Capulua, playing for all the free money that's out there,

what better place to land than here on Golf Subpar? It's been too long, by the way, since we had him on. We went down there, South Florida, Jupiter had him on, but it's been too long. So shout out JT coming back on. Appreciate you. All right, here we go. Here's Justin Thomas on Subpar. All right.

We are way overdue for a repeat appearance from our next guest. He is a 15-time winner on the PGA tour, two-time major champ. Just co-designed his first golf course called Panther National, which recently opened, and has a super sick dog named Franklin. Justin Thomas in the house, how we doing, fella? I'm good, thank you. How to get Frank in there, you know what I mean? And by the way, the 200th guest, 200th episode of Subpar.

Oh, shit. Big time stuff for you. Can you believe we haven't got fired yet? How's that feel? Yeah, now that you say that question. I cannot believe that you guys made it 200. We're going to send you a plaque. You can put it right there with all the stuff behind you.

Find a good spot for it. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, you got it. Let's just rip the Band-Aid off real quick because, you know, the national championship happened last night, which we don't know who won yet because of the way that we're filming this. But your Alabama Crimson Tide, lost in the semifinals. Tough game to Michigan and overtime.

How are we feeling after the season? Oh, yeah. That was a bummer. Yeah, it was just weird because it almost felt like a bonus in the fact that they were even in the playoff. But then naturally, since they were there, it was like, well, we're here. We may as well try and go ahead and win this thing. And I mean, I felt like it was Coach Saban's one of his best coach teams with how they looked in the beginning of the year. And it felt like they showed a little bit of signs of that.

But it's just, I was talking to some of my buddies who grew up in Alabama. and it's like the fans Alabama fans don't because a lot of them are very kind of like when I became a fan when I started looking at school there they didn't really appreciate the six and six and the seven and five seasons you know people see a two loss SEC championship type season and they're like this is a failed season this is miserable and it's just it's not really the case what what coach has done over the year so although it sucks it was still a hell of a season I felt like after how it started. I was looking forward so much to a possible Texas Bama rematch just for you and Jordan's side action. Oh my gosh. Dude, I told so many people of Texas won. I think I would have

had a debate taking a medical for the year because I don't think I would have been able to deal with the amount of shit that he was going to say for an entire season long. It just would have been too much. It's already enough that they're good at football and they've beaten Alabama. But if they would have won a national championship, not having to go through Alabama, or potentially Georgia, that was sucked. Yeah, that was going to be my one question to you. Is the one silver lining and losing to Michigan is that there aren't really that many tour guys that played at the University of Michigan that are going to give you shit all year?

Like if you lose to a Georgia or a Texas where it's just relentless, there's 50 dudes from those schools. Yeah, it definitely helps. I mean, it's, yeah, I would much rather, I actually don't know if I had to choose between Georgia and Texas who I would want to win less, but I'm just very glad it's not either one of those teams. I bet it's silver lining. If Washington would have beat, y'all, C.T. Pan would have given you so much shit. Oh, he would be relentless on you. Oh, my gosh. You kidding me? Yeah, was it? And Richard Lee didn't he play there for a while? Yeah. You do have Joel and Nick Taylor, but CT's the big football fan. Yeah. Chris Williams,

a lot of them. Well, give us a, like we said, this is coming out Tuesday, National Championship, played last night. You got Michigan, Washington, Michigan minus four over under 55 and a hook. You want to make any predictions here? We'll see what those skills look like after the fact. I'm going to go with Washington. I didn't stay up to watch the whole game, but I thought they looked pretty impressive. I think although Michigan's defense is really good. I don't know. I think it's going to be an interesting matchup. I think it'll be something kind of very different to what both teams are used to or custom playing. But I'm going to go with Washington in a good game.

A 31, 31, 24 game, Washington. Oh, wow. Right on the over, under, the hook, and Washington on the money line. That's the bet. I like it. All right. You're back in time. You place that bet.

We'll see how your football skills go. Obviously, let's talk a little bit about your 20-23 season, not your best. obviously I know you're very motivated to get going in 2024. What was it kind of like the reset like in the offseason to get going for 2024? I felt like the end of the 23 season, or I should more so say calendar year. I just, I mean, I felt like I played some really good golf there come the end of the year. I mean, even though I missed the cut in Minnesota, just something that I felt like I would kind of made progress there. And then, you know, I felt like I played, I played ball.

to win them i just i just drove it poorly on uh on sundaids where i couldn't play well enough to get in the playoffs and i really legitimately felt like if i made it the playoffs i was going to make it to east lake i just had a feeling and like i liked those courses and i just i felt like i was going to but i just obviously you can't get there if you don't get in so that was that kind of got shot real quick but um yeah i i felt like i learned a lot i found some stuff at least that i some bad habits I maybe kind of picked up over the past couple years and just maybe not giving enough attention and more so just getting back into me and my ownership of my swing and in my feels and kind of how I go about things and I you know I I did not play well at all I felt like at

the Ryder Cup I had some some good you know time or good moments here and there but as a whole I did not help the team near enough and but besides that I mean I had three individual tournaments not including, I guess, last season, if you will, between the, uh, the Fortnite and then there in South Africa and then the hero where I felt like I played some, some pretty good golf. Well, let's take some positive out of it. I mean, you hold your last shot in competition on 2023. Yeah, good shot. That is true.

Nobody is going in to 24 hotter than me holding out for Eagle and the father son. That's right. How was, uh, how was Pop's performance down there at the father's son? If you had to grade him, be a fair grader, you know, tough love. Well, I mean, health, A. I mean, he didn't need any kind of pain medication. He didn't look like he was going to fall at any point from his back hurting him so bad. He was walking without a limp. You know, last year I was worried that between him and Tiger if we were going to get done with the first round, but they did. So I felt like the health was, a, 100%. Our golf, neither one of us was very good. I think I was joking with the people there. I'll give him a B-minus just for the sake of he literally uses the week of, you know, the tournament starts Saturday. He uses that week prior.

It says that he is a cram before the test kind of guy. And the weather was so bad down here that week. It was blowing like 30 and it was raining every other day. And I felt so bad because I'm like, you know, I've at least played enough. But it's like, this is my dad's week that he practices. and he couldn't get any practices, so I felt bad for him. That's tough.

And then got to go out there and play. And you're playing alongside Tiger and Charlie. Obviously, a lot of eyeballs on Mike Thomas out there. Let's talk a little about your golf course design. How much influence did you have on Panther National? How much time do you spend out there when you're home? I mean, I've been out there a couple times since it's opened about a, I guess, a little over a month now.

But it's, you know, it's really, it was a fascinating and cool experience. I, my involvement, I, at least personally going into it, I'm like, hey, I am in no position to be taking the lead on anything here. I mean, I think the most involvement that I specifically had was like the range and the practice facilities just because I, I saw the land we had and I'm like, and I think you need to have these things and shipping green. maybe should have this, a putting green should kind of look like this, just from, I mean, we see facilities the entire year both good and bad, and I felt like I could actually bring some kind of value to that in terms of Jack. But the golf course, I mean, I felt like I sat, I was sitting back and just watching and listening more than anything, and I was there if Jack had any questions. And he was great in the sense of every time that we went out, any final,

change he made, he asked for my blessing almost. He was like, JT, are you good with this? Do you like this? Which I was not expecting. I mean, he has no reason to ask me that. I don't know what I'm doing. I don't know what that was my first time ever being a part of something. So for him to want me to be that involved and to, you know, hey, we're going to move the screen like this to this to this. Do you know why we're doing that? And I'm like, no, of course, I don't know why you're doing that. And then you'd explain why we're doing that. And oh, okay. Or what do you think about this bunker here does that make sense and it's like in being down there i'm like i don't even know what direction we're facing right now what's the predominant wind here it's here okay well that bunker's not going to be

in play for the better players if we have a predominant win so it's like okay maybe we'll take that bunker out and we'll move another one back so it was just like little things here and there i felt like i could maybe bring a little bit more of the modern game value to the design of it but um no i mean it was it was really, really just a cool process to be part of. And your first time going through it from start to finish with Jack Nicholas, like I can't imagine getting much better than that. But now that you've seen the process through from start to finish, when you're out there playing other golf courses, do you find yourself like taking notice of the architecture more than you have in the past? Like, oh, that's a great place bunker. Oh,

oh, look how this green does that. Not enough yet. I don't think. I mean, I felt like I've always, I've always been fascinated with golf course architecture and I've always been, uh, I respect, I feel like, a well-designed golf course versus just one that they make 8,000 yards, and then they think that it's going to be hard because of that. And I feel like so many of the old school courses we play or have a lot of the things, or maybe the nuances that I like when it comes to architecture. So I still, I mean, I would say courses that I didn't like before, I was involved with Panthers National, I still don't like.

You know what I mean? I don't necessarily look at them too much differently, but there might be some little things here and there as I'm playing or as I see holes down the road that could come to mind. All right, some big news here from Subpar. We have officially launched our own YouTube page. Make sure to subscribe at Golf underscore Subpar on YouTube. Check out this week's video.

Like, subscribe, do all the stuff. Colt, we've got some cool behind the same. stuff coming and give you a little outside look at some of the stuff outside the studio. So please like, please subscribe. You're the best listeners in the game. We love you. Back to the show. I know y'all have a lot of great games there in South Florida, getting this offseason, getting ready to go for this season. Who you've been slapping around the most back home? Good question. You know, I haven't been, I haven't been playing too much. I've been, I traveled, we traveled more this, this fall than ever, but it was, it was good, it was all fun and good travel.

And then unfortunately with my, I don't want to say my situation, but just with giving the events, my schedule maybe was a little different than some of the other guys. So it's, you know, this was my first week at home for New Year's in a long time, which was great. But I would much rather be a Capulua, let's be honest. So while this past week when I've really been playing and practicing a lot, you know, most of the guys that I'm usually playing with are, are at Capulua, but, you know, I've been playing a pretty good, I've been trying to play a good amount of golf with Bud Collie. He's, you know, he's really excited and looking to make a comeback in this year now. So I've been excited about that and trying to play with him a good bit. And he looks like he hasn't taken any time off golf because he's been whipping up on me pretty good.

Is he still hitting in the middle of the face every single time that he swings? That's, that's the first day that we, I mean, we literally, we played, I don't know, a handful weeks ago and hadn't played together in three years or something. I mean, maybe even more. And, yeah, like, you know, birdied, like, three of the first four holes, like, missed a couple greens and chipped it up like this. And I'm like, oh, I'm glad to see that your short game is still ridiculous and nothing has changed. So this is good, bud. Thanks. Yeah, it might be when he's going, like, maybe one of the most, like, repeatable swings over and over from a ball striking perspective. Like, it's crazy. I hope he gets back this year. It's been a long time for him.

When you do have your group, though, your crew of boys down there and you guys get a game and it's all the pros. You You don't have to give us units, but what's y'all's game that you play? Do you have like a, like, we have a high, low that we like to play out here, but it kind of varies on geography, I feel like. I feel like we, I mean, close out to the best when you have individual. I think it's, at least when they're kind of big games, if it's call it four, six or eight people to where you may even have more than one group, you know, you'll have multiple teams and then that's maybe

kind of a big pot kind of thing and then could have a skins game of the low score of the six guys or whatever it is but I mean for me like I love playing and that kind of stuff so I want an indie game with whoever will take it and just because it's you know

I'm trying to get in that competitive mind frame and have a put and around that may mean nothing actually means something so I would say it's generally close out but when we get four guys eyes. It's fun to play a hammer game. I always enjoy playing those. Yeah, it's aggressive. I love making net birdies on you. Yeah, that's real fun. The old net birds are good. So four for three.

Never seen him happier than the four for three. Four for three. You got to announce it too. I only have three more guys. I only have three more pops. What's your balance though when you're getting ready for stuff? I know you like to go play the money games and stuff. You had to put it like a percentage on it. practicing grinding on the swing technique and all that and then also getting out and doing playing those games you were just talking about i practice a lot more than i play uh i not this is i mean i guess it depends right like if i'm if i'm working on something specific in my swing then i'm going to spend more time actually on the range hitting balls and and maybe using video because like for me i'm i'm constantly wanting to if i'm working out something i'm

constantly wanting to see video to see what it looks like versus what I feel because that's something that kind of, you know, my dad and I went through a little this year is because my swing got off in different ways that it hadn't passed that the fields that worked for me in years past didn't work this year because I was in my areas that I was struggling and was different than it was in the past, you know what I mean? So for me, if I sometimes I'll hit five, six, seven balls in a row and I'll try something different each time, but it needs to be something that I come up with, because what you feel might be different than what I feel. So it can be like, all right, you know, I might kind of sit there and kind of look and see what, you know, maybe if it's lower body,

upper body, hands, arms, club, whatever, and I'll just kind of mess with stuff. And then if I'm able to not only feel something that I like, but it kind of matches up to the ball flight video, everything like that, then that's something I can kind of put in this little bag of of fixes, if you will. But I do practice more than I play. I'm probably 80-20. I spend a lot, a lot of time doing like distance control work, whether it's a Grove or Bears Club or something, just on track man or hitting the different pins, different yardages, wedge work. That's what I spend the majority of my time doing. And looking ahead to this season, I know there's one of it, you definitely have

circled and that's the PGA championship. You're a two-time winner of that major championship, but it's at Valhalla. You're a Kentucky guy. How excited are you for that week? I'm really excited. I, yeah, I will be, I probably will be feeling things I've never felt before that week. It'll be special because, you know, it's Louisville is, Kentucky is such a great sports kind of part of the world. I think it's very, very passionate, but it's not necessarily known for golf. So when I think something like this happens, you know, the city gets around it. And Louisville has a very, very special place in my heart just with how supportive everybody's been.

And just, I mean, it's, you know, it's where I grew up. So being able to play a major championship there, you know, my first professional golf tournament I've ever played in Louisville, it's going to be great. May have to change my phone number a couple weeks before that. Maybe hire somebody, get somebody on staff to handle that. Is there a way that you can get ready for that so that you're not too hyped up? I mean, there's challenges even for guys living Scottsdale for the Phoenix Open. That's not a major championship, you know?

That's the thing is I legitimately don't know because I've never experienced it. That's kind of what I've told people that have asked is I'm like, yeah, I would like to sit here and tell you I'll be able to handle it. but like I legitimately have no idea because I've never experienced that in my life. I know I'm going to be nervous, but a different kind of nervous. But I mean, I would just say now the biggest thing for me would just be not putting too much pressure on myself and just enjoying it. You know, it's trying to keep blinders on and just go out there and play a golf tournament. Depending on weather, I'll probably try to make a couple trips there to just go play it beforehand. That way I can maybe spend a little less time on site while I'm there to kind of get rest and,

and recouped and I'm probably going to have to say no to a lot of things that week just, you know, just from being, being from around there. But, you know, it is, it's a major championship and I'm there to try to win it. And I can't think of, you know, anything cooler for me than winning a major in my hometown. So that's, hopefully that's what happens. I would like to come to that after party. I would like you to as well, Colt. That sounds like a very nice time.

Louisville got some spots. What's the best spot? I would say you win the thing. Where are we going in Louisville? after? Wherever the hell we want. Yes. Great answer.

The Kentucky Derby. We run around that bitch a few times. Let's talk a little bit about the Ryder Cup was last year. Obviously, it didn't go the way y'all wanted it to, but what was the experience like over there in Rome? Obviously, rather difficult start for the team, but y'all fought hard and made it interesting on Sunday. Yeah, it was, it sucked in the sense of how the result pandas.

out right like it was just it's it's such a bummer because i felt like all of us you know we're in a good in a good spot it just was i'm sure if we had it over some guys might play you know play an event or too closer to the event or between the event and but that's just one of those things you know if we go out there and play well and when nobody ever talks about it but it's easy to be kind of ridiculed or or looked at because of how bad we got beat but it um it's the it's the it's the The Ryder Cup in Europe, I feel like, is always really special. The crowd is very passionate, obviously. You got a different kind of like adrenaline, you know.

Obviously, you're pumped up and jacked up and you want to play well, but you want to kind of play well to silence the crowd, or you want to kind of like prove them wrong a little bit versus get them pumped up when you're in the States. But it's a great experience. I just, I know I wish selfishly, I wish I would have played better. You know, I just wish we would have played better. It's, it's, that's just the fact of the matter, because it's, uh, it's just, it goes by so fast,

how, how you're getting ready for it, you're preparing, you're, you're getting, you know, pulled every which way during the whole week. And then as soon as that ball, that T goes in the ground Friday morning, that first match, it feels like Sunday singles are over just like that. Yeah, that was, that was our first Ryder Cup overseas. And, I mean, it was truly incredible. Like the energy, like you said, is just different. I think the chants are fantastic.

Do you have a favorite chant from the European crowd? Because you're one of those guys. You embrace that stuff. Like, you like to go back at them. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's a couple good ones. I mean, I know that I've heard like mine of I have two first names for Justin Thomas.

But, you know, they'll do the whole chant. You got two first? I'm like, yeah, no. But it's funny because they, I can specifically, I mean, obviously I have no idea these people are, but I can picture it in my head like it was yesterday. Oh, that first tea, this row in the, this row of people in the front row of the first T grandstands, and they were just decked out in Europe here. And, you know, they're chanting nonstop. They're against the U.S. for Europe, against me, against Jordan, whatever. And I just sort of like look up at

them because it's really cool to take in and watch and just remember smiling at him. And literally all of them take their hat off and just kind of like tipped their hat to you. And it's like, they just respect golf. You know what I mean? Like they're they clearly want you to not play well and to lose, but they also respect you as a golfer. So it's a pretty unique atmosphere. Yeah, they're loud, they're energetic. They're clever with their chance, but I feel like they always like, they never, from what I saw, they rarely crossed the line, which I don't know can be said for all the events out there. But like Cole said, that was our first one in Europe. I mean, it felt like to me from opening session morning, Victor Hovlin's chip in, just the wave of momentum that was on the

European side. It seemed like it was on their side for damn near the entire week, without minus a couple little stretches. From a player's perspective, can you talk about how you feel that when you're out there? Can you guys feel that? How that affects your play when you hear these roars and these chants and all this. I'd be like, damn, man, we just need to, I need to hear one for us. Yeah. And then I think it gets to a point where you, you want to be that cheer, right? Like, it's you, you're like, God, we've heard so many these European cheers. And it's like, if we can, and you can, the boards are everywhere. And I think it's easy to get wrapped up in it.

And, you know, there's something to be said, and it's a real thing when captains say you want to look up there, you know, Zach's like, we want to see some red on that board earlier. I'm sure Luke's like, you want to see blue on that board early. And it's like, I mean, it's not exactly a great feeling when you're on like five and you look up and there's four matches on the course and all of them are blue. And you have none. So that's, it is a thing.

And you want to be that, you almost want to be that putt or that shot that kind of changes the momentum. them and we just could not make a putt all week. I mean, I felt like the golf that I watched, you know, in that morning session on Friday, and they have so many monitors and between the group in front or behind or in my own group. Like, I just felt like we missed everything. And then they just kept making the putts you need to make. And that's just, that's the difference.

They did everything they need to do when they needed to do it, and we did not. I woke up in the middle of the night hearing Tommy, Tommy. Oh, my golly. Yeah. Speaking of the chance. That one was a good way. I like that one.

Speaking of the chance, Slees and I are petitioning to be in charge of getting people together for the chance at Bethpage. What do you think? Yeah. We got to get created. A lot of rhyming. A lot of rhyming.

We're going to have to word smith a few of the things right now, but we got, I think we got an outline for it. Yeah, I think, yeah, we could use some. some maybe some new content, some fresh stuff. So I think, I mean, I don't see any too better candidates right now. What's McConaughey at Texas? What is his title? Minister of Culture or whatever it is down at UT?

We want to be that for the U.S. team in New York. We could minister the hell out of some culture up there, if given the opportunity. I can I ask you? I wonder I got a serious question about the Ryder Cup because I don't know that the people behind the scenes, unless you're on property there all week, you don't see it. And it does come with the territory. It's part of representing, you know, your continent at this thing. But just how much energy and time goes into the off-the-course obligations you guys have leading up to the actual competition.

Dude, it is wild because you guys are so routine oriented. And then that week, it's like, throw it all out. Play nine holes. They go talk to these people, these people. Then get dressed up. Go to that. It's like, dude, it was like, man, these guys have no time. Yeah.

And I think that's something that could and should improve with a tournament to be. honest. It's tough because it is. It's like it's the biggest event. I mean, look, there's bigger events you could argue, but in terms of a national stage and the people that are watching, the people that are there, the passion and everything it brings out of us, like it's the biggest event that will play. And it is, like you said, it's wild because, you know, I use this example. Like, you know, I've generally during the tournament week, I'll work out anywhere from, probably three max five times, probably three or four times during a tournament week, Monday to Sunday.

And the two Ryder Cups combined in Europe, I've worked out twice, like a legitimate workout. It's just because I'm like, I'm not going to, you just don't have enough time during the day, and I'm not going to wake up at 3.30 or 4 a.m. because I'm already jet lag, and I need as much sleep as I can. So it's, you know, but everybody's going through it, right? It's the harder part, or I think something that, I just think there's little things here and there that that we could do better or differently in terms of kind of tightening that up because it is. It's important for us to want to play as good as we possibly can. And I've already seen a difference from now than my first one in France.

So I just think if we can continue to get that trending more and more in the right direction, then it could put all of us golfers in a position to play even better, which is what we want. No doubt about it. How insane do you think it will be at Beth Page? I mean, you've played in front of the New York fans. They like to speak their mind. I think things could get a little rowdy up there in 2025. I'm going to be honest, cold. I'm pretty scared.

Yeah, I am nervous. Yeah, I hope nothing bad happens. And I, you know, whoever is the captain, I think, would be a good idea that maybe get ahead of that a little bit. Because, of course, we want the fans on our side. but we want it to be respectful and man, they're just some passionate outspoken, loud fans in New York.

And I'm just, I know one thing, I'm glad that they're rooting for the U.S., you know, rooting for my team versus their team. But it is. It's going to be out of control. I mean, they give it to Americans when there's a major championship up there. They don't care.

And now we're drawing a line in the sand and saying it's us versus them. I'm like, it's going to all be directed this. I'm worried that they may never come back. Like, all right, we'll meet you at a neutral site, but we ain't coming back. We ain't coming back here anymore. Yeah.

I mean, there's a, look, there's a long time until it happens. But, yeah, it's crossed my mind. Yeah, it's going to be fun. It'll be a lot of fun. A subject that's not that fun, obviously everything's going on between PJ Tour, live, Piff, and all that. I'm sure you're tired of talking about it. You just want to play golf and focus on that. But what's your thoughts on everything that's going on with the potential agreement?

and what would be the best case scenario, in your opinion, for the game of professional golf right now? Yeah, you know, it's tough. And I feel like, you know, the board and those guys, the amount of time that they're spending, you know, I give so much credit to the playing members that are on the board. I mean, you know, Tiger's not playing, but he's still spending an insane amount of time in meetings on the phone.

But, you know, you look at a guy like Patrick Cantlay or Jordan Speeth who are playing in Hawaii. And they have to, they're having to deal with the, what is it, five-hour time change, something like that, and be on these calls for hours and hours at a time and a day. And then also trying to play golf. Like, it's a lot. But it's also they're doing this because it's the future of the PGA tour and the future of the game of golf. And it's a really big deal. And they care a lot about it.

So I mean, they've been so busy that I think, at least for me, I mean, I'm sure other guys are more updated than I am. But I know the last thing that any of that even Jordan wants to do is have another hour-long conversation with me to update me. You know, I understand that when it's the right time in place, then he can fill me in all of us in more. Because a lot of stuff that they're talking about is they can't, you know, in these meetings, it's like this is, you know, potential billion-dollar deals that they're talking about. So that's not something that's necessarily knowledge to anybody other than the people that are in that room. So I do respect that.

But I just, I think like a lot of guys, I just want the best players in the world to be together more often, just how this all started initially before I felt like it kind of snowballed and got a little out of hand. And we just want to better our products. And I feel like we're getting closer to that. And we're just so close.

to the finish line. I'm just, you know, hoping it continues to keep getting better and trend in the right direction because, I mean, I've obviously been pretty vocal. I care a lot about the PGA tour and the future of the game. So I just wanted to be, you know, the place that everybody wants to play and nowhere else. Yeah, you know, we were talking about it on our Sirius XM show today. Like, look, golf's not the NFL. Like, it's not big enough to have the fans divided and have half the eyeballs over here, and half the eyeballs on the PJT tour. Like, that's not good for the game. I think eventually we're going to end up in a good place, but right now it's just not good to be divided. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. Yeah, I heard that, I heard that analogy somewhere else as well. It's like, yeah, that,

you know, we're not dealing with, what, 70 to 100 million viewers a weekend. Like, it's, you know, when you cut 30% of that, like, it's a big deal, but they still got 70 million that are watching it. But it's like, you take 30% of, you know, a million. Like, that's damn near half of it. So that's a big deal when it comes to it not a very big number. Like it's so like you said, it's not good for this sport to be divided because it is. We're trying to grow the sport and something that, yeah, is big, but in the grand scheme of things, and compared to maybe other professional sports, it doesn't hold a candle to it, right? So we're just trying to get to that same spot and having things that are going on at the same time

they're taking fans away from one of the other. Like you said, I don't think it's necessarily a good thing. Yeah, I mean, there's more people watching the average Sunday night football game than have ever watched a golf tournament at a single time, ever. Like, you can't chop that in half. It's just not big enough from an eyeball's perspective. But you talked about, like, hopefully we just get the best product. I'll take you to another topic.

And this will help get the best product. And that's your boy, Tiger Woods. He got everyone fired up saying there's a potentially, there's a situation where he might be able to play once a month. You know him better than anyone. Is that a reasonable expectation, you think? I know I've learned very, very quickly to not put anything past him. I mean, I remember when he played the Masters, whatever, a couple of years ago.

I didn't think there's any way he was playing for multiple months. And next thing you know, I was like, yeah, I'm playing. He's like, yeah, you got it. And he's like, no, I'm playing. It's like, and then he was there. He's playing. So it's hard because he really can, how his mind works and mentally how he's able to just go to another a place that nobody's ever been.

And he's also able to push through things and just focus on the end goal, as opposed to maybe what's going on. But I also, I think that he knows that, you know, he's not 25 or 30 and he can't just take a couple years off. And he wants to keep playing. He's a competitor, right? So I hope that's the case. I know myself and a lot of guys would love to see him more, but I know he would love

to be out once a month more than anybody. Yeah, that would be incredible to get him out there playing. in a month, obviously all four majors. But like for you, I mean, growing up idolizing the guy, how much do you cherish? Like, y'all play a lot of practice rounds together at the Masters. I mean, it's you, him, and Freddie couples. In the gallery, I mean, it looks like a Sunday final group gallery out there. How cool is that for you to experience? It's very cool. I try to not look past it or, I mean, I try not to take it for granted. I mean, I'm very, very lucky.

One, not just because we're friends and able to spend some time together, but that I'm able to, you know, play practice rounds like that with those guys. You know, that's one of the few weeks that I have really no shame big-timing anybody to say. You know, like I remember I had a couple years ago and I hate to throw him out of the bus. But, you know, Stuart Hagstad I played junior golf with for a long time. and he won what seemed like his 15th midam a couple of years ago. And he's like, you want to play a practice round? I was like, yeah, you know, when we get there, like, it was a while back.

And it was like Monday, he was like, you want to play tomorrow? And I was like, I'm playing with Tiger and Freddie. Like, I'm sorry. This is just for my own well-being and actual preparation for the golf tournament, it does not get any better than literally just following Tiger and Freddie around Augusta. So I had absolutely no shame saying that. And I probably won't in future if we keep to. if we keep doing it.

Tough breaks, too. Just hang around that first tee. There's some sectional qualifies. I remember Sleez and I, either last year or the year before, Monday, first day there, we're walking past the big scoreboard and we walk out and, I mean, it opens up to number one fairway and it is just lined. And there comes you, Tiger, and Freddie, and we're like, why don't we go over to the second night? Yeah, we don't.

This is a disaster. It's like the Beatles. Yeah, the good thing about this practice rounds every year is I think the first tee opens up at eight at Augusta. So it's, you know, depending on the weather, that time of year, you get some storms you get like an afternoon shower and we'll be texting the night before like when you want to go i be like oh it looks like in my storm in the afternoon like why don't we go go off at eight it's like okay and you get the range and like there's freaking 20 people on the range and i'm just like

everyone's looking probably that they're they're all trying to go off first first off one and i in my head i'm like i feel pretty good that we're going to be the first group off here today and it's sure as hell it's not because of me let's see if we can squeeze off here see if they got a little lot. There's been so many guys over the years that have tried to get close to Tiger Woods, to pick his brain, to gain some information. I don't feel like very many have been successful, but for some reason, like, you're the guy. You see, like, he's called you his little brother, I believe, like, and you're the big brother to Charlie. What is it about the way you guys interact that you think that led you to become the guy that Tiger's probably the most open to of anyone

in golf? I don't know. I think we, I mean, it's, I think when we just, when we get together hang out. I mean, we just enjoy the company, but we enjoy that we're very similar competitors. Like we, obviously, I'm not at all comparing myself to him and what we've accomplished, but like we both hate to lose and we both like to work hard and we both

like to, you know, if we're playing with a friend, like we'd like to beat them in a shipping contest or a punting contest, but also I think both willing to learn. And I think, I don't know, potentially he just sees some kind of qualities in himself and me and that, but I don't know. I mean, I think he also knows how much I respect him and his family. And

I don't know. I mean, I do understand I'm very, very lucky. And like I said, I don't take it for granted because it's, uh, it is, it is pretty cool sometimes. No, it's so cool to, you know, be around arguably the greatest of all time a lot and get to spend a lot of time with him and pick his brain. It's awesome. Um, let's get to the E9. We'll pick your brain just a little bit more and then we'll let you get out of here. Let's get to the E9 real quick. And I think the question was different back when we had you on for the first time. So, we've changed it to if you could be anybody else for a day, who would it be? What did I say last time?

No, who would play you in a movie last time? Oh, yeah. Who'd you say for that? If I could trade places with anybody for a day? Huh. I mean, MJ. M.J. seems like a pretty good person. Trey plays a day.

Play 36 at the Grove. That'd be sick. You ever do that? Yeah. It sounds like fun. I don't know what he's doing tomorrow, but I'm sure I would enjoy doing whatever he's doing tomorrow. Probably doesn't suck. Probably whatever he wants is the answer.

Let's ask him the alternative, because we ask this, you're married, man, but I don't think your wife have any issue. What childhood crush? Celebrity crush. Celebrity childhood crush. Or current. Jennifer Aniston, big time. Oh, okay. Love that.

I mean, that's a very, I mean, there's only a bazillion guys across the world. But yeah, Jennifer Aniston, for sure. I'm okay with it. She's okay. Yeah, she's decent. She's decent. Few have tried. Not many have succeeded there. Okay. Here's my first one. You recently went on an African safari with Max Homa and his wife Lacey. If somehow you and Max became stranded out there in the African bush alone, who survives longer based on their survivor skills?

Well, I mean, we already talked about this. Him because he's faster. So that's just an unfortunate. it's not like we're, you know, who has better survivor skills is going to make it longer. It's literally just who is slower is going to get eaten first, and that is me. But you could be smarter and outsmart the animals and Max. Yeah, brain. I don't know if I could, yeah. I mean, I would love to give myself that credit, but after watching them out there and how smart they are and I don't you know I don't know all of the animals characteristics just yet

maybe if you give me like eight to ten years and I could really do some research on it and figure out how they you know how they live then maybe but but also the chimps might see max's arms and be like he's one of us and they might embrace him which then you'd be dead you know yeah yeah wait also are we dropped in the same spot or we dropped like yeah you're in the same spot like hunger games yeah if we're dropped yeah if we're dropped in different spots, I have a chance. But if we're dropped in the same spots, he'd be an idiot and to go anywhere but where I am.

And then as soon as something comes, he just runs. And then he wins. I don't think both, I don't think either of you have a very good chance, honestly. No, no, no. Well, yeah, that's the, also. It's, I lose first, but he's shortly after. I mean, you've done a lot of cool stuff in your life. Where does that, like, rank?

I mean, it looked like an amazing trip. Dude, it was, it was insane. I can't put it into words. Like, Max and I, it was, It was definitely the coolest trip, I think we've taken. It just got such an appreciation for nature and for them. Like, that's their life and just how they go about it. And just all the little things that the animals do.

I mean, literally, just the survival and how close we got to be to some stuff. And then, you know, our guide was great. He told us anything and everything you could possibly know about animals, insects. you name it, but it's just, yeah, the respect that I have for them because those animals are so fast and just some of them are so beautiful and it's, I can't recommend it enough to anybody who was thinking about it. And thank you for documenting some of it. We all learned a lot about ants and the behavioral habits of wives in the wild. That was beautiful. If, if golf or course design doesn't work out, you could be a safari guide. Yeah, Max and I think we could, we'd be a team

It's like you get both of us or you get none of us. But, you know, that's just, I think that's how it would work for us. Yeah, don't put that to bed. All right, next one, this is very simple. Will Tiger Woods win on the PGA tour again? Why are you going to do this to me, man? Because it's so fun. I don't like that.

I don't like that. That's not fair. See, I'm going to help you as a friend. The answer is, I've learned to never doubt him, like you said earlier. I've learned to never doubt him. Good, good job. I've taught you well. Okay, I'll give you any.

easier one here JT. Phoenix Open coming up. Best Party on Grass. We have the Birds Ness there where a different musical act plays each night. If you got to pick the four-day lineup based on your preference for the Birds Nests, who would you want to see? Wow, I'm going to be all over the place here. I'm going to go Kid Rock because he's just an amazing performer. He's a kid, I mean, who wouldn't want to see Kid Rock. Great one. Nice party. Uh, probably throw some Drake in there. Mm-hmm. You Mr. Morgan Wallen.

And who else can we go? You know, I'll go with, I'll go with Eric Church since I'm wearing a chief set. Okay. Seems right. Yeah. We got a little something for everyone in that lineup. I thought you'd go Luke Combs is the last one. Yeah.

I haven't seen him in, I haven't seen him play. So it's like, not that I've seen Drake play, but it's like I, you know, and I've heard he puts on a great show, but at least I know what I'm getting with some of the others. I mean, look, hey, if I can have five, I'll add Luke Combs. Yeah, hide him into the mix. Kid Rock came like two years ago, and I'm not a diehard Kid Rock guy by any means, but his show was sick, dude. I was like, oh, my God.

I was blowing a while. I was like, holy shit. He's so talented. This is sweet. He puts on an amazing show. It is hard. So good. Yeah.

All right. Next one. November 4th, 2022 is a very special day, your wedding day. Jordan Speeth, best man. I want you to grade how he was as a best man. I hate to do this, but man, he crushed it. I'll give him an A-plus. He, yeah, he didn't lose the rings, which, as you know, Jordan, that's always on the table.

Had a great speech. Didn't, you know, didn't throw me under the bus, but also had a few subtle jabs in there. Yeah, I mean, I'm trying to think. he had a great a great opening line to his speech. It was something about like, you know, what's the line from wedding crashes? You know, they say love is

one's when you take the early flight home for San Diego. No, what does he say? He says, like, they always say that, like, loves is one, something and their counterpart or like their soul made or

in their counterpart of the other, whatever like that. And he's like, and I've always done that to be true for Justin and I. Like it was just a great I totally obviously botching the line But it was it was funny But I got to give him an A plus he did well From what I remember he did a great job

But I was also staying with Kiz and Gary So I don't remember everything Prime more than Kiz did Perfect Okay Justin I got a I got a true or false for you here At some point in this season We can expect you to work the following phrase on to the broadcast. What a shot by me. You know the line. True. Can we get it in?

Yes. I got to throw that in there. So good, right? I got to throw that in there. Yeah. Wait till the timing's right, but I feel like you'll have a lot of opportunities for that. We need to make that line worldwide. It's too good. I agree. I'm in. Okay. But. All right. Next one. We're going to go back because I saw recently Smiley Kaufman did something talking about, you know, y'all spring break trip and everything. But now, all four of you are married, three of you have kids. You're not as young as you once were. So say we put the band back together.

Who would thrive most in a spring break party situation? And who would be the worst of the four of you? I mean, I'm sorry to do this to him. But, I mean, Smiley's just as something's going to hit him. He's going to have to, like, call a doctor if he's getting an IV or like, something's going to happen to him. And, like, he'll be there. And you may just not get him until seven or eight that night.

But you're, it just, it'd be tough. It'd be tough to get him for three or four more days in a row like that. Sorry, Smiley, I love you. But, um, I love it. That's so great. Um, I don't know. I mean, it's, I think Rick would definitely be the most consistent. I think you'll know what you'll get with them.

He's probably, you know, he's going to be the kind of the one hanging and he's, here. And Jordan and I, we have a lot of this in us. You don't, so it's kind of whoever hits this peak and stays up there. But he's pretty good at those kind of trips. So I hate to do it, but maybe I'll give it to him since I can't choose myself. Well, Instagram would love it. If that does ever happen again, I can tell you that.

You should wait to you're all like 45. Yeah, we're going to 8.30. Smiley's asleep. Jordan's doing a crossword puzzle. We're probably just hanging up. I'm good to me. That sounds like a hell of a night, by the way. All right.

My last one, we're going to bring you back. I think you're the last guy we've done this with, but you're a hip-hop guy. We like to bring you some lyrics and you explain them to us because we don't know. We're stupid and we need you to explain this. By the way, I scoured the internet and 99% of the funny stuff. Not usable. Wasn't going to put you in that situation. So I got you a fairly easy one.

Just want to see if the skills are still sharp. This comes from our guy, the wordsmith of our generation, two chains. Okay, he says, my crib's so big, a dinosaur can run through the shit. I'm a shark, you a tuna fish. What's that mean? Yeah, I mean, it's just, his house is so big that it's not like saying a cat or a dog or even a horse could run through. It is so incredibly large that a dinosaur could run through his house. That makes sense.

And then, again, he is a shark, which is, you know, you could maybe compare that to the lion of the safari world. Good one. And everybody else is a tuna fish. And I'm sorry, but I'm taking a shark and a battle against a tuna fish. If tuna fish is everyone else, two changes the shark, two changes the alpha. That's good. Animal guy, Justin, you explained that. That was good.

I get it now. So we used to do that segment. It was called What Do You Mean? Yeah, I'm a serious ex-exit show. It's great. We've got to bring it back. Yeah, yeah. Got some great ones.

You got Scott Harrington. I think so, too. There's only a few guys that can do it, though. And I also think that every quote that you've picked is two chains. It's two chains. I got a few non-users here. I was going to go, and she got a big booty. So I call her big booty.

I feel like that was too easy. You know what I mean? But 99% of the other ones you can't use. Yeah. No, that's true. That is the best. I love that. All right.

one, better trash talker of the group, Gary Woodland, Kevin Kisner, Charlie Woods. I think Gary's sneakier. Wow. But, but kids just, yeah, kids, it's just because it's, you know, I feel like it's just kind of all he's got. He's like, I'm just going to talk a lot of shit. Yeah, dude. Real quick, though, before we let you go, he's making.

his debut on TV. He's in the booth this week down at Capulah. How you think he's going to do? You know, I think he's going to do well. I think it's, I'm sure, as you know, like, it's, I'm sure it's an adjustment or it's a, I think you know quickly, right, whether somebody is, is comfortable doing it or not. And I think, at least I found whatever the, you know, one time I did it, it's like, I'm just, this is what I do all the time is I'm watching golf and I'm just calling it as I see it and it's of course he's played and like he knows the golf course and knows the the subtleties of it so I mean I think he's going to do well I mean I hopefully if he enjoys it then that's one thing but I'm not I'm not ready to just get rid of kids like that I still want him out

on tour I think it'll be as much of a natural as Marshawn Lynch was I mean I feel like he was you know I'm going to be honest I think he's going to be a little less high than Marshawn Lynch was because I don't, and I think he's going to have a little bit better idea of what's going on in golf and probably less F-bombs on live TV. It would be hard to not be lower from what I gathered watching the old F. I was like, that guy is. You are correct. He's in the stratosphere.

It was beautiful, though. Describing a part five, shit, that's a whole lot of yards. God, that's a lot of yards. Like, yeah, how fuck it is a lot of yards. That's a good call. Well, JT, man, you're the best. Thank you for being our first guest of 2024. the luck this season, man. We're looking for big things from you.

Thanks, boys. Appreciate it. All right, that was Justin Thomas, joining us on subpar. Always fun to sit down with him. I expect massive things from him this year. I mean, I know we're fans of his, we're friends of his, but I don't expect him to have a repeat of what happened in 2023. This guy's going to go out there. He's going to play well. He's more determined than ever. And I'd have to think, I'm going to be there, but I cannot wait to see the reception he gets at Valhalla for the PJ Championship this year. Yeah, I mean, that's like dream scenario. We talked to him about it.

You know, I don't know how I'll handle my nerves. It's never happened before. But, I mean, that's the ultimate dream. I think as a golfer to win a major championship in your hometown. But I think this year, like, we've talked about this before. If you play golf for that long, as long as Justin Thomas has, and you're professional. And back down to the amateur, even the junior golf rank. Dude, it's hard to go through there and never have a year where things just don't click.

Like, it's 70 first. So few guys you can look at and be like, he's never struggled. He's always been top 10 in the world since he got out there. There's a couple guys. And even when you look at like the greats, there's years. where they recess. And I think, like, you know, just tightening things up in his swing, maybe going back to basics. And also just kind of like a little shot in the arm.

Like, dude, you know, he's a world, world class talent, but it's not just, there's no guarantees in the game of golf. And if Justin Thomas can have a bad year, then damn near anybody in the world can have a bad year. And as bad is, I mean, 71st. There's a lot of dudes that would be like, I sign up for that every year for the rest of my life. And I would be thrilled to have it.

And, you know, it gets talked about in the media. Like, it was, oh, my God. And he's, you know, you can barely play anymore. It's like, dude, he's going to be just fine. A lot of things I'm worried about in the world, Justin Thomas playing good golf ain't one of them. I love that he said out of the spring break boys that Smiley Kaufman would struggle the most.

I think a new... Softy. Two-0 spring break would look a lot different than it did back in the day, although they did revolutionize the game with the shot tracker on the iPhone. That was always my favorite. But great to sit down with JT,

wishing best of luck in 2024. All right, let's get us some gambling. Why not? It's the day after the national championship, We don't know who won. Which way are you going on that? Because we could look like idiots or we could look like geniuses. I'll just give you mine. I'm betting the under and I'm betting it heavy.

Michigan, run the ball over and over, play as slow as humanly possible, keep pinnics off the field. That's my bet. I should say I'm not warm right now in the betting front. But I've been on this for a while, so I'm going under the 56. Well, I said before I break, it was going to be Texas Alabama in the final. So how'd I do? Good call. Yes.

So obviously, not really warm as well. I can't pick Washington. I got this one guy out there. I don't even want to give him, I don't want to give him credit. I don't want to say his name on here. It's too nice to him, and he just annoys me about Washington. So therefore, I'm going Michigan, minus five. I think you found the one obnoxious Washington thing.

Because I was like, no one hates them. They're just nice guys from the Northwest. Their football team, you know, they haven't been good enough for long enough for them to really have like an annoying fan base. And I just kind of, I mean, in my heart, I think I want Washington. They're kind of the underdog. Michigan's been there. They've been around.

They're kind of like the, you know, a lot of people picking them to win a national title at the beginning of the year. But in my heart, I think Michigan wins the thing. But it doesn't really matter. Just don't score a ton of points. Defense wins championships. So let's go Michigan. Let's get to the Sony Open. We've got a very nice field heading over there. Ludwig O'Berre is your favorite after his incredible, what, 40th place finish for you? Top 50. He top 50 for the kid. He is 12 to 1 as your favorite. For me, I'm going to a guy who's just been a monster around here. He won, and I believe his fifth start on the PGA tour back in his rookie year. he can roll his rock he's one of the best iron players on the planet

Georgia Bulldogs they're pretty good on the PGA tour give me Russell Henley 22 to 1 monster monster at this tournament I feel like every time I think of this tournament like he's one of the first guys that comes to mine he plays it so well out there not to just hop on the Georgia bandwagon although there's 50 of them out there but I'm picking one as well he's a little further down 25 to 1 but give me Brian Harmon I like guys that play the week before kind of knock a little bit of the rest off also hit it in the fairway wedge it and put it. That's kind of the formula around this place. I mean, who's better than that? Also plays pretty decent in the wind. So I'm going to take B. Harm, 25-1.

He's the French Bulldog of the Bulldog. Yeah, yeah, he's like the, yeah, just the miniature version. But Feisty as a mother, you know what I mean? French, he'd be a good little name for him. Yeah, he's not. I kind of like that. A little baby dog. As far as the Dark Horse, I know we're both on the same page here, and we didn't touch on it at the start. And there's a reason for it. Here we go. We had our Whisper Rock Pro Scratch, a first ever Whisper Rock Pro Scratch, 15 guys threw in some money. you played with your man Drew Kittleson. I played with Brandon Harkins.

Well, Ches Revy didn't need a partner. Him and his caddy, Brady Stockton went out there. They shot 21 under for two days, best ball, all the way back at Whisperock, Green's running 13. Freezing balls. Not warm. And they went by five. Chess shot 64, 63 on his own ball,

which would have been good enough for a one-shot victory over Nate Lashley and Ben Marsh. So because of that, we are both, as a dark horse, going Chez Revy. And depending on where you get it, You can get him as good as 350 to 1. Yeah. Say no more. The fact that he would have won that golf tournament by himself,

and to say he shot 64, 63, that sounds good at any time. It was freezing. There was a little bit of wind. The course was all the way back. The greens were bouncy. Like, it wasn't your normal 64, 63. But when Ches gets going like that sought a few years back at the Twinfin when we had it here and he made double eagle on 18 and he shot a million under by himself.

And I was pumping him in. And that's when he went out there to Sony and like hold out three times in the first. round like over a hundred yards over a hundred yards three whole outs I'm not saying he's going to do that this time but when Chess gets running like this on top of that this golf course is perfect for him 7,000 yards like he is he's hitting it perfect he's putting it all the things 100% in on chess he has please play good so we don't look like I know he has two career top tens there I mean he likes to draw it the final stretch there is just perfect for a drawer of the golf ball I like him to play well but we've seen this

movie before we hype these guys after we see him we play with them and then they go out and they play like shit, so don't do it. But you mention those three haulouts in one round. I was playing that day, and you go across those boards, you're like, oh, boom, Chez Revy holds out from 146. Chez Revy holds out from 126. Chez Revy holds out for 1.27. But Jesus Christ, what is going on?

And the last hole he played leading up that, he holed out a five-hour on a part-five for double ego. I mean, the dude holds out more than anyone in the world, hits flags more anyone in the world. He doesn't even know how many hole-in-ones he's had. He's like, yo, how many got he got? He's like, I don't know, like, 27, 28, I don't know. On a lost track.

I'm like, okay, you're the only dude that doesn't know how many hole in ones he's got. But historically, when he's been playing good leading up to an event, like, it carries over. So if he has any semblance of that same type of form this week at Sony, I love him, especially at those numbers. A top 10 bet on Ches would be, I feel like. 22 to 1 top 10 bet. Unbelievable good bet this week. If not, Ches will refund your money. Kidding, kidding.

Exactly. Don't hold you that. Yeah. All right, NFL playoffs also start this weekend. My Cowboys against the Packers. What a draw. What a draw. and a half. That's my favorite bed of the week.

What a draw. I don't even have any NFL in front of me, but I do think the Cowboys have an unbelievable draw with the way things shook out. The Eagles falling apart. There's a lot of weird stuff going on in the NFL right now. But yeah, if I had to lean, Cowboys at home are a beast, it's setting up to be a very emotional postseason. It could be, you're in the situation I was in last year in college football players. I was like, this could be the best thing in the history, or it also could just rip my heart out, you know, which way it is for me. Y'all were a great underdog story. Like, we're just expected to win that game, too. To lose a as close as we did made it hurt even more you know just missed we had them figured at the end all right well

thanks to everyone out there for listening like i said hope everyone had a great holiday i cannot believe when we started this thing we would get to 200 episodes over and it's all because of y'all this is fantastic really appreciate it hope you all continue to enjoy to listen to us idiots but that's going to do it for us we'll talk to you on next week's subpar