Subpar - Keith Mitchell Interview: Beating Brooks and Rickie at The Honda Classic, prank wars with Phil Mickelson

Episode Date: February 2, 2021

On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar, PGA Tour winner Keith Mitchell joins former PGA Tour pro Colt Knost and his close friend and on course rival Drew Stoltz for an exclusive, in-studio, interview. The former Georgia Bulldog talks his ongoing prank war with Phil Mickelson, investing in Sweetens Cove with Peyton Manning, and avoiding a playoff with Brooks Koepka and Rickie Fowler to win the 2019 Honda Classic.

Hello world. Welcome to another week of golf subpar, Coltnose, Drew Stoltz. I wish we had something to talk about this week, but not much happened in the game of golf. Yeah, pretty uneventful week out there at Torrey for you when you're cruising around the course. It's kind of a ho-hum week, nothing happening. But seriously, I mean, when I watched the Patrick reads the story, clearly. And when I watched the whole deal unfold, I had no idea it was going to turn into what it's turned into now. I mean, it's the only thing being talked about, really.

Yeah, I was out there all week. First off, he won the tournament by five shots. So kudos to him for that. He played some awesome golf. But I was finishing up my broadcasting for Golf Channel Saturday morning. I was off the air at noon. Went and had some lunch. Get in my car, driving back to the hotel.

My phone just starts going in saying, I'm like, what in the hell? Everybody's like, what's going on? Are you kidding me with Patrick Reed? And I'm like, what in the hell just happened? Like, the hotel is five minutes from the compound and all hell broke loose. And I get home and I see it all. And I'm like, this isn't good, guys.

This isn't good. It didn't look good. So let's break it down and get our takes on the whole thing. my whole deal was this. I basically think that what he did, the only thing I think he did wrong in that situation was the lifting of the ball and never replacing it, right? That's pretty strange. I think most players when you're out there, you lift the ball. If you think it's plugged, you mark it, call your competitor, you're playing opponents over, playing partners over, come look at it. See it. If you can't determine it, you put the ball back, you call for a rules official, right?

Patrick Reed took it out and held it, and then he set it down, and at no point was the ball ever in the ground when the rules official came over. The thing that I, so, like, technically wasn't wrong, but I think what he did wasn't smart in that if I'm Patrick Reed, knowing my reputation, knowing I've been pretty loose with the rules in the past, you've got to know that he's going to be assumed guilty until proven innocent, every one of these situations. So if there's ever a deal out there where I'm going to be marking and lifting a ball that's in play, I would remove myself from it completely, say, guys, I'm calling a rules official,

wait until he gets over there to do anything and touch it and just remove yourself from the conversation completely. Because when he marks it and he's poking around and doing all this stuff, even if he did nothing, the people watching at home, The people on social media are all going to assume that he's doing something sketchy. And that's just the way it is. He's earned that reputation through things in the past. And so I think going forward, if I'm Patrick Reed or in his camp, I say, dude, you're lifting your ball on the golf course. Get a rules official before you do anything.

Yeah. And like you said, he's brought this all upon himself. I mean, I'm a, I consider Patrick Reed a friend. I like Patrick Reed. I don't like how he handles a lot of things. And talking with someone who's been rather close to him over the years, you know, he made a very great point. He's like with Patrick's reputation and how he's handled things in the past, Patrick has to be perfect in everything he does, especially when he's leading the golf tournament. And he knows all eyes are going to be on him.

Because if you slip up just a little bit, you're going to get crucified and everyone's going to think the worst of the situation. There's no doubt about that. I'm with you. He messed up when he didn't put the ball back in its original lie and let either a playing competitor or a rules of fish come over. Not at one point do I think Patrick cheated this week. Now, he's had some incidents where, you know, the deal in the Bahamas with the sand didn't look so good. This, yes, he messed up. Like I said, he didn't put the ball back.

The rules officials gave him relief, which once they do that, it's, in my opinion, he's innocent. Like, he's allowed to go play the rest of the golf tournament like the way he's supposed to. He's doing everything. The rules official told him to do. But it just made him look very, very bad, in my opinion, the way he handled the whole situation. before the rules official got there. Yeah, because he's, like you said, if there's any gray area in the world of golf,

and the jury of social media and the golf media, he's never going to be given the benefit of the doubt in that situation. You're always going to look at me, what's he doing with this? What's he doing with his hand on there? Why is his back? I can't see anything. Where's this ball?

You couldn't see it for a while. Maybe he was palming the ball. That's what Brandl-chambly, you know, pointed out. So like, any time where there's a ball lifting scenario, he just needs to call a rules official and do it, because if he had done that this past week and just said, think my balls plug, I'm going to call for somebody, put a tea in the ground, wait for somebody to get there.

We're not even having this conversation. He goes and runs away with the golf term. But you're right. At the end of the day, rules official said, yep, I could feel that there's a lip there. You're entitled to relief. He took relief. He's entitled to it. It just looks really bad because, like I said, he's guilty and so proven innocent more so than anybody else on the PJ tour. And that's been well earned from what he's did in the Bahamas. I mean, there's no grayer on that. It's not poor patchy. He can spend that however he wants. That was cheating. Yeah, the same thing. Obviously, a lot of people say the same thing happened with Roy McRoy on number 18 on Saturday. But, you know, the camera angle is different. We could see the ball look like it landed,

bounced straight up, came back down in his own pitchmark. But here's the deal. There's not one person on the PGA tour that will ever question Roy McRoy's integrity. Roy's never going to do anything wrong. He's the guy at the PGA championship when a volunteer accidentally stepped on his ball. When he got to place it, he said the lie was too good.

Yeah, he pushed down. Pushed it back down. I know a lot of nice people out there on the PGA tour. I'm pretty sure they're all going to take advantage of that better lie. There's not one guy on the PGA tour, but this lies too. I mean, you see it all the time. That's just the way the rule works.

If a volunteer steps on it, you get to replace it and recreate it. Nobody's going to say, I think this is better than what I had previously. Let me push this. So he will never be in question. The difference in that, too, is after we saw replay, which I believe wasn't until the next day in the Rory situation, you could see his ball landed, popped straight up in the air, and it looked like it went down in or very near to his original pitchmark. Patrick's, you could clearly see bounce forward into a different spot. I don't think there's any way that that ball could legitimately plug from knee height.

You went out there and said you threw balls at the ground, couldn't get it to break ground, things like. that. And I'm strong. And you've got a huge cannon of an arm, bud. But he was granted relief. And that's the end of it. But he doesn't get the operator under the same, not, I want to use rules, but he's not going to be given the same benefit of the doubt as everyone else. He has to be overly cautious in these situations. And he wasn't. Yeah. And I think the unfortunate thing for Patrick Reed is he's such a freaking good player. Like he is great. He's top 10 in the world, possibly a top five player in the world. And he could go on to win four majors in 20 tournaments and be a great, but he's always going to be known for the rules and discretions that he's had.

I mean, just the tone of like the broadcast and the interviews and after the fact, there was no like happy, you know, like good for Pat. What a performance. I mean, he won by five shots. The golf he played and the way he operated around the Greens was unbelievable. His short game was a joke this past week. I mean, it was as good as you are ever going to see. No one cared.

No one talked about it. It was almost like a somber event when he won the golf tournament because everybody knew like, well, this is going to have a black eye on it. And this is what we're going to talk about is this drop and his reputation. and all that. But it's earned. I mean, you've got to work to get that. He's the only guy that has that and it's for good reason. So, Lee, I do want to share some very exciting news for golf subpar because I spent a lot of time with Patrick Reed last week. I followed him the last two days, talk to him a lot on the range, and we have no date confirmed yet, but I can tell you this, fans, Patrick Reed is

going to sit down with us here on golf subpar. Wow. What a day that will be. It is going to be awesome. The bright lights of subpar. We're going to show, we're going to dig into a lot of stuff, but we're going to show a side of Patrick Reed that I think no one has ever seen before. Yeah, well, everything will be fair. We're not going to go out of bounds, but you got to have fun too. You got to ask the questions that want to be asked

and hopefully bring out a guy that maybe a lot of people haven't seen before. I don't know them at all, period. You know them fairly well. So it'll be new for me too. But yeah, we've gotten that confirmation. We've got to get a date, but that'll be a big one. It'll be a very interesting one.

And I'm very much looking forward to it. But Sleaz, I got to run one other thing by you that happened last week while I was on the broadcast. Talk to me. Okay. Friday afternoon, I'm following the group of Jordan Spee, Phil Mickelson, and Zander Schofley. By the way, I was exhausted going back and forth across the fairways, chasing down Phil and Jordan's ball. You need one of those fat scooters that fall out.

Well, that's kind of dangerous for me, as you know. By the way, shout out Fat Scooter. Love my Fat Scooter, even though I almost died on it. But they're a lot of fun. But I'll tell you this. We're on 17. The storm was blowing in, started hailing, raining, all this. The whole group is on the cut line.

We're at one under, even par. They're all right around. They got some stress. They're hovering. With two holes go. Well, Zander Shafley, who has a very poor track rate at Torrey Pines. You picked him this past week to win. He had a great week.

But it wouldn't have been a great week if it wasn't for your friend, Colt Nostrat here. So we're on 17. He blocks his iron shot to the right. Like I said, it was hailing. You can't really see anything. I was up towards the green. Flies the bunker. I thought I saw it bounce, but apparently it was just a piece of hail that bounced up in the ground,

bounce off the ground. We get up there. Can't find his ball. Looking, nothing in the bunker. The rough's not. crazy long over there. Can't find it. He's like, dude, do you see my ball?

And I'm like, I swore I saw it bounce. Like, right with the bunker. He's like, where is it? Find it. Well, I don't have it. I mean, I don't really care where your ball is. I mean, I'm going to help you find it. So we're looking around.

We're at about two, two and a half minutes. And the new rule is three minutes. Yeah, that rule sucks. It's a stress with a situation. And all of a sudden, I'm walking and I'm looking down. And I see a dimple very deep in the grass. And it was 100% embedded. But I found his ball.

He ends up getting it up and down for par. ends up burning the last go to 200. Made the cut by a shot. But if he would have lost that ball, if we had 30 more seconds, he's going back most likely probably making, he was going to have to drop in the rough, making double bogey at best.

He's going to need to eagle the last to make the cut. I save the day. He goes out, has a massive weekend. Finishes tied for a second. It makes $456,000. Should I get a cut? Should you? I guarantee if you get a pause time

at the two and a half minute, Mark, make hey, bud, if I find your ball and you go on to make the cut, I'm going to need 10%. He would have signed it without even looking at. Yeah, his caddy, Austin Kaiser, as otherwise known as Stevie to a lot of the caddies out there. If he was getting the normal standard caddy deal of 8% for a top 10, he makes over $35,000. He was looking at a goose egg, zero.

Zero. So he owes you and Zander owes you. I think 10% is reasonable, 45 grand. You can direct deposit it. I told him as a thank you. He can come on golf subpart and we'll discuss my figure. But I think I'm doing a little cash from Zander. Yeah, 4 and 50.

That's nice. Whatever he breaks you off, it's better than he was going to get if that ball wasn't found. So good on you for that. Yeah, it was climbed his way all the way back. He was very, very happy. He gave me a big fist pump the next day and said, thanks, man. I really appreciate your help. That's the most emotion I've ever seen out of the lad.

Dude, he's awesome. What a guy he is. But man, I had so much fun on the broadcast. A lot of fun. I'm going to be back next week at Pebble Beach, doing it all over again. I can't wait. Another tough stop up there in Mar-R-A. Yeah, you know, staying at the lives.

God bless you. God bless you. But let's get to our guest this week. He's got a lot of different names. No one really knows his name. He's been called Kevin. Jeff Jeff now he's now but his real name Keith Mitchell he's a PGA tour winner he's a giant slayer down at the Honda classic year before last taking down Brooks Kepka and Ricky Fowler heck of a guy had a had a blast with him and he's scared to get amongst it he ain't afraid I loved it love it love getting to it it's fun getting to know some of the guys that I don't know as well you know what I mean no lot of them don't know all of them this the guy I never sat down with and afterwards I was like this guy's great has a 10 he's got some skills too can absolutely smash it sends it yep all right well here he is Keith Mitchell on golf

subpar. Welcome everyone. Normally the sleazy man does the introduction, but when we got my good friend Jeff Mitchell in the sea, we have to let me introduce him. First off, this is Keith Mitchell, but does anyone on the PGA Tour's name get messed up more than yours? Kevin was stuck for a long time. It was probably a year and a half or two, and then Jeff comes out. Well, I missed Jeff until JT. Post and your good friend sent me the clip of Brandl-Chambly last week in Hawaii, talking about the great round by Jeff Mitchell. I mean, Jeff isn't even close to Keith. That's not even, and Keith is not hard. Like, it's a most basic, like it's a pretty basic name. I don't know why the constant butchering. I've embraced Kevin to the point that it was partially my nickname

on tour. Guys would just call me Kev. And when I would play with another Kevin and someone say, hey, Kev, I would turn around. That's how much that people call me Kevin is a joke. The Kevin started at the Honda, correct the year you want? No, it started a year before that. I didn't know that i was playing in houston the week after dominican republic i'd finish second the dominican republic and johnny miller says

here's kevin mitchell who won last week in punta canna mexico okay well at least you got you got one good thing on him he got three he got all three things yeah kevin mitchell wins in punta got to mexico no keith got second in dominican yeah whatever gold jacket a little old

Gold Jack and green jacket, who gives a shit. But that's the funny about the Honda. It was a year later, Dan Hicks did it, walking up 18. Yeah. And then the article. And then the article, and now Brandel, who prides himself on being the most well-researched man in the world. I should have called Brando.

I got a quote from him for this. Like, I mean, Brando can remember what happened in the 1942 Masters on Friday, whole three to God knows whoever. And he can't remember Keith Mitchell. Yeah. Maybe I just need to play better, right? Well, you said it. You're playing pretty good.

But Jeff, we are very excited to talk to you today because as we like to do here, I was reaching out to some mutual friends via text before the show, trying to dig in a little bit, get a little dirt on you. So I texted Joel Damon. I said, hey, got your boy, Jeff coming on the show tonight. I need some dirt on him. He writes back. His first text response was he likes wine.

He likes flying private. He's fancy as fuck. And I said, this guy sounds like a 10. Okay. Who doesn't like those things? Yeah. If you say like, that's a good point. Seriously.

Like, yeah, are you saying? You like good-looking women, too? This would just be weird. We have so much in common. I mean, who dislikes those things. That's actually a great point. Valid. Valid.

All right, well, we're going to dig into all your PJs tour stuff here in a little bit, but first, we've got to go back to the college days because when you played at the University of Georgia, you're a bulldog. I mean, the University of Georgia is just a staple on the PJ tour. Now, every time they show one of those leaderboards of the colleges next to it, it seems like every other person is a Georgia Bulldog. What makes that place in Coach Hack so special in such a hot? bed for PJ tour players.

I think that the short and easy way to describe it is he lets us do whatever we want, which is good and bad. Every college coach just freaked out. Yep, they did. Well, he would always, he never picked a team. You would always have to qualify. And that was the root of his whole system was if you knew that you had to qualify, you know, Wednesday, Thursday, Thursday, and Saturday that week.

You had to practice and prepare, and you had to show up and you had to play well or else you weren't going to go. So there wasn't he like, oh, he's going to pick three. I'm going to be one of those guys he's going to pick, so I'm not going to really practice that hard this week, or if I don't play well, it's okay. Like, you had full pressure on you, just like you were as a professional throughout college,

and you never had scheduled practice. So you pretty much had to make the team on your own. So if you won the week before, you still qualified the next week? There is those, that's an exception. Okay. Hey, you won, great job. Get your ass back out of their squad.

There was, the exception was if you made top 10 in the week before. And my junior year, no, no, no, my senior year, we had a really, really good team. And I didn't even make the squad in one tournament my senior year. And I played as an individual. Joey Garber, who was on tour, you know Joey, he was on tour last year and it's on the cornfairy tour, was ranked number one in college golf. five guys since we had individuals playing a tournament finished in the top 10 that week and he did not couldn't play in the next tournament wow that's a tough one to swallow so you just had to sit out

number one ranked kid thank goodness we had individuals that week too so joey wins the golf tournament not counting for our team that's coach yeah make an exception for me that's i mean i love that because it does you can't just coast by that's that's that's really i feel like that works better off than the hey was sign a kid you'll play every tournament yeah and you promise them things and then that kid doesn't maybe work as hard as he should or or the worst is when you get your hand held all the way through college, you know, required practice. You know, you got to work on your wedge game. Then you go an hour on your putting and you do this. And then you turn pro and no one's telling you what to do. You have all the freedom of world. And the only thing that

matters is what you shoot in qualifying. Good point. What you shoot in Q school? What you shoot in money qualifying? That's all that's all that's all that's pro. It doesn't matter if you're an all American or not. It doesn't matter if you did this or that. It's only about what you're doing qualifying. And that is all Georgia was. Yeah, that's really cool. That's a different Not a lot of programs do that anymore, but you mentioned your senior year. You had a good college career. It wasn't like these kids coming out now that have won every single award. I think you were honorable mention All-American your senior year.

But you had a great quote that I read somewhere. You said, I was great at college. I wasn't great at golf. I mean, is that just part of going to school in Athens? Like, there's so much, that's a, I mean, people that I know that went there, rave about the place. There's so much going on there. Is it tough to just be locked in on golf down there?

It's, I would just, I wouldn't say it's tough. I would just say I got distracted easily. It's very easy to get distracted. Yeah, that's the better way. The distractions are higher, which is part of the reason why I moved to Sea Island, honestly. Like, I knew all the guys, not all, but a lot of guys went to Georgia or SEC schools down there. I knew that it was working for them because it was a small town environment. You know, everyone was practicing together, playing together, kind of leaning on each other.

And I knew that my extracurriculars would be very, very rare at a place like that. And it worked, truly. What a town, though, Athens. Yeah, Athens. I played on the, I played the first year they had their corn fairy tour event there. We decided to go out on a Tuesday night. I'm not going to mention the players' names, but we went out. There was a few of us, and they told us to go to, I think it was called Bourbon Street,

was just a bar. If you had a real ID, you couldn't get in Bourbon Street because we were too old. I was, like, 23. Yeah, so you were older than the bartenders. If you just draw your picture, a stick figure on a napkin, they'll let you. I did go up. I think there was like four of us. I said, I need eight beers.

Four beers and eight shots. We're going to take four shots and send four to that table of girls over there. And they're like, that'll be $28. And I'm like, eight shots, four beers, $20. I'm moving here tomorrow. This is the greatest thing I've ever seen. I didn't get to go to a college town. I was in Dallas.

I mean, that's $100 in Dallas minimum. So I was like, this Athens. I could get used to this. It is an amazing place. It is. I don't know if there's a better college town from the guys that I've talked to me who played there, or whatever.

There's not one person that comes out of the University of Georgia's like, I don't really have a good time down there. I don't know if you've heard this either. Their football team is going to be good next year. Yeah, next year, dude. You're right there. Our next year is always our best year. It's unbelievable.

Always. Is the men's golf team the most successful program at University of Georgia, you'd say? I mean, they've had great athletes, obviously. I mean, it's easy to say looking back and you see how many PGA tour players we've had and how many wins we've had and professional. professional success, yes, I would say so. I mean, we do have a lot of football players in NFL, but if you count how many guys on a football team versus how many guys on the golf team, you know, per player, we're definitely ahead of that. I mean, over 50% of the guys I played on

my team are on the PGA tour. That's insane. There's like 10 active or something like that. Right. And we, I played with seven of them, six or seven on my teams. That's a joke. With the competition that good and a team that good when you, and you know, you, you had a solid college career, but did you ever doubt yourself coming out? Like, I don't know if I can play on the PJ tour. I got five guys on my team that can beat me right now. Well, thankfully, half of those guys were already on tour. And so I was like, well, I mean, I played against these guys every day and they're on tour. So if they can do it, you know, maybe I can actually practice and prepare properly. I might be able to make it. And I guess it

was three years of that. It took me to get on tour, but not as fast as some of those guys, but it ended up working. Yeah, you went through all the ranks. You went PJ Tour, Latin America. You went Corn Ferry Tour before you finally end up at the PJA Tour. I know Slee's had little Latino American question, I think, for you. Oh, yeah, you had a class, I think 2015, was that the year you were down there? Oh, yeah. Yeah, you had a class. Nice crew.

You've come out of there. Harry Higgs come out of there. Nate Lashley's come out. So two guys from that class of one on the PGA tour. Adam Shank was on that. Shank, yeah, that was, did you ever look around? I'd be like, yeah, in five years, I would expect a bunch of us to have won on tour and the rest of us be there.

I'll tell you what, there's a couple Latin guys that I thought were unbeatable, and I think they might still be playing down there. I don't know what it is. I think those guys just felt comfortable down there and those golf courses where we felt completely uncomfortable, no language, half of these grasses we hadn't even seen before. And they're tight. Well, that's called dirt. Keith down there. They don't really play on grass. You can find a lot of grass down there, I have a feeling. Yeah, it was the fun part was when you'd show up to a course for the first time and you look at the practiceilities, they'd hand you

like a bag of balls, half on be yellow, half one be white, and might be a spalding and slasingers and whatever. and then there was guys handpicking the range with helmets on. Like seriously, that was what we were doing. And you look back and now you're on the range and they don't have your exact ProV1 that you're playing to hit on track man and you're all upset. Taylorman comes into your titleless bag. You're like, what is this?

What is this crap? And now you look back to the English. We were just happy that we could actually hit a driver on the range. You didn't have to sacrifice some of your game balls. So you didn't we have to worry about cracking your driver. When I was playing in Brazil and I was in a, seven whole sudden death playoff. I had three balls in my bag and all three of them were completely used because it was my

fourth week in a row down there. You don't think about that. You had to pack your balls and just my fourth week in a row. It's not three dozen in your locker. No, there's not. How heavy is your bag got to be traveling? I'm going to be four weeks down here.

I need nine dozen balls. Yeah, it would peak at 70 by the time I'd come back at B50. I'd leave a couple pair of shoes and golf balls. Take the purses and the money and all the cool stuff about the PJ tour out of it. Was that some of the most fun you've had playing progoff? No question. And the reason was I was 23. I was fresh out of college.

I was so excited to have a place to play. I was excited to feel like I had some sort of a PGA tour card. I know it wasn't a PGA tour card or the PGA tour card, but it was a PGA tour card. And I was just thankful to be there. And then we had a great group of guys down there playing. That's awesome. Who was your runaround group down there? Definitely Harry Higgs.

Harry and I, yeah. I knew the OG Harry. Yeah. Before all the fame. Before he, you know, he's all big time now. Big beautiful. Yeah, exactly. It's going to stick.

Yeah, try to use that as much as you can. So, yeah, now he's all famous and big time. Michael McGowan, he was a mess down there. Oh, my God, he was a mess. We had so much fun. And Chank would run around that crew. Will Collins was down there. Stephen Fox.

I run with Stephen Fox every week. And it was funny because Stephen Fox and Michael Weaver, who had finished first and second USM were down there. So we thought they were superstars. So it was a lot of fun. Anyone can win that tournament. It's really no big deal. Basically hand that thing out.

We thought, like I said, thought. Yes, exactly. But let's fast forward a little bit. You get your PGA tour card in 2018. You go out and you miss your first three cuts on the PGA tour that season. I look back at this, so don't question me. You've already missed my first PGA tour. remember that no i saw that you finished 14th on a sponsor exemption no no you monday qualified i'm monday

okay big difference okay big difference yeah check him on this jeff i know you finished 14th though i saw that it was good playing i think i finished 11th okay whatever didn't get you in the next week but you go out as a member of the pGA tour there we started out and you missed your first three cuts yeah did any panic set in at any moment and be like oh boy this is a whole not level here i don't i don't I definitely knew it was harder, but it was a different kind of panic. It wasn't panic. It was like, oh, my gosh, I can't do this. It was more of like, I got a lot of tournaments left.

I got a lot of golf to go, but this is like no cakewalk. Justin Thomas missed his first, too, so I mean, you're in good company. I'm only one cut behind him. How long did it take as a member of the PJ Tour? It feel comfortable, like, in your own skin out there, I belong, these dudes. I'm not afraid of these guys. It took after the West Coast because when I first showed up at Tori, that's the first PGA tour event.

I don't care what you say. The fall series is great. Hawaii's amazing. Palm Springs is cool, but it's a pro-am. You show up at Torrey Pines, and you see that golf course, you see all those fans, and you see Tiger Woods in the parking lot.

That's when you're like, oh my God, I'm on the PGA tour. Yep, there's PGA tour events, and there's PGA tour events with Tiger, and it's a totally different game. You mentioned the fall series is great. Great opportunity for young guys to go out there and play great.

Courses are awesome. Yeah, but the golf courses aren't set up quite a hard. You go to Torrey Pines. Now we're on a big boy track. Yeah, you look at the fall series and see what their average score is for winning. And then you start going to Torrey and L.A. and the Florida swing, it's not 20 under anymore, buddy. But Tori's got to be a place where you would, in theory, look your, I mean, that's a golf course that sets up well for what you do.

That was the first, I was, I played great the first two rounds. I think I might have been in the top 25. And as a rookie, I was excited to be. there and I still would be at any point but I was I got nervous on the weekend I mean I'm playing I'm T and off and there's thousands of people and and you're I played behind tiger the last day I remember that and that was just that was it was the kind of stepping stones you know you get used to things and they become more natural and more normal but it was until after Tori that I felt like I could kind of catch my stride I mean that's the that's the first time too you really see a

ton of fans out there oh yeah yeah when Tiger's there and Harry was actually just in here that tournament he was talking about how he found himself like looking back at tiger you know i think tiger was a group behind him or something like that and he kept talking about i found myself just looking back seeing what tiger was doing i was almost more of a fan out there than he was a player just to say like how much how difference it different it is with tiger i remember tiger played tampa and he's never played there and he is the year finished second but tiger's on the range and i'm on the range and there is thousands of people and this is range is tiny at tampa there's thousands of people backed up okay he leaves roy mackroy is the current number one player in the world walks on the range

there might have been seven people. People just flood out of that. It's like unbelievable. I think you've said that on this podcast before. I've got to remind the people in case they missed Jeff Mitchell's episode. Jeffrey, I think he said that in the rats' podcast. How good's the rat? He's the best.

We're going to get into the rabbit a little bit later. The rat shall be discussed. We can't go an episode without talking about the rats. Let's stay on the big boy golf course because you want a golf course that is arguably one of the scariest places on the planet to win. You want the Honda Classic, PJ National, and you did it coming down the stretch against Brooks Keft. and Ricky Fowler.

Take us through that because carnage can happen at any moment on that golf course on the background. You can go from first to 30th and so fast. But you handled it well and ended up getting your first PJ tour win. I did not handle a little Q school a couple years prior. We're not talking about QSchool, Jeff. That happens. I am right there with you.

I hate that place. At least you got your vengeance. I did not make it through Q school, the bear trap. But that year, yeah, when I won, God, it's almost two years ago now. it still feels like yesterday, which is cool. But it was, I'll never forget when I, I bogeed 11 and I was like, man, I don't, I think that might be it.

Because Ryan Palmer had been in the clubhouse for four hours at seven under. And that dropped me down to five maybe. I think, yeah, drop me down to five under. And I got the bear trap coming up. And I two back and it's the wind's blowing. I'm like, okay, well, let's just play as best we can. if you get top five, get whatever, fine. That's great.

And for some odd reason, that kind of just took some pressure off of me. Like, instead of trying to achieve the impossible, I was like, all right, I'm just going to go play as best I can and see what happens. And it sounds so cliche, and that's what all the sports sikes tell you to do. It's really boring. It's terrible. But that's what happened. And so I hit a great drive on 12.

I kind of didn't hit my nine iron grate going into the green, and it came up only like 15 feet short. I'm like, oh, damn, I can make this purdy fly. And I made birdie and then hit a great shot in 13 and made another birdie. And I'm like, okay, whoa, I'm in this. And then the shot on 15, I completely blacked out. It was insane. It's nine iron. I accidentally started over the water because I kept shifting to the right because I wanted to hit it closer and closer and closer and closer.

And I looked up and that ball took off. I'm like, hmm, that's, uh, it's interesting. This is really right. That's the longest, the longest six seconds. of balls in there ever. And it's funny because I've looked back at the footage and you can see myself just kind of shimmy over to the right just a little bit and just like just keep looking and just moving and aiming and and I striped it because I mean if you're starting a ball

that far right you obviously drawing back into the fly you hit it solid. It's not like I pushed it because it wouldn't have covered. And then once I hit that putt that was when I knew I could do it and I knew I hit a great shot in 16, whatever, two putt par, part, great shot in 17 two-putt and then I did the most unconventional Keith Mitchell thing ever had to lay up on a par five and hit a wedge and make birdie and I mean that's a hole that's very very getable for you you have ricky fowler and brooks keppka posted eight under and i'll be honest i mean probably the Honda classic board was probably like oh my god we're about to get a playoff with this wonderful gentleman kevin mitchie mitchie fowler this is going to be incredible brooks what's better yeah and you

You edge into 14, 15 feet. And, I mean, were you shaking over the putt? Were you like, oh, this is fine? No big deal. I got this. I remember when I grip the putter, I could barely feel the putter in my hands. And I kind of smiled or like kind of giggled inside because I was like, oh, my God, this is real. When people are like, when people talk about, you know, not being able to feel the putter or something, like that kind of moment came true.

and I almost was like laughing at myself like, well, they were right. This is real. Here we go. And I hit it. And it just, I mean, straight. God, it looked so good. I mean, it was milky. You're obviously thinking about making it.

You want to avoid a playoff. How many thoughts were in your head? Just don't give myself a little something coming back that it's possible. Not once? Not once. That's why you're a champion. Not once. I didn't care at all.

I didn't, I've never thought about two putty. Never thought of anything. I just tried to read the putt and hit the best put. and I mean there's a couple times like I mean I was asking Pete the stupidest questions just to get my mind right oh is that what's that grain Pete left or right like no shit it's left right that whole green's left or right the water's right there the sun's setting over there it's off I mean somebody that doesn't know what grain is knows that grain's going that way and I'm just like Pete's that grain left right yeah little grain little left right was a little uphill

yeah little uphill like I'd never asking those questions that's awesome yeah he's one of the like big characters out there. Crunchy Pete, what was he doing down the stretch to try to keep you even keeled? I don't, I don't know. Do you remember any of it? I mean, I don't remember any specific conversations we had. He was, I mean, he's so solid when I'm playing good

because he never gets rattled, he never gets upset. Nothing never, he never gets upset when I'm playing bad or good. Or, you know, he's so even keeled out there. And he's just chilling. And it just keeps me cool. I love that. How did he get the name Crunchy? Sal's Pizza

St. Simon's Island, Georgia pre-Q 2014 He was catty for you pre-qualified in 2014? You guys go back to like your amateur. Didn't he cat for you at the USAM qualifier? Yeah.

So wait, still why crunchy? Yeah, well, crunchy, get to that. So we're sitting in this piece place and a dear friend of ours he's talking about you know,

how he went out to the beach and swam in the little pools and paddleboarded all day. and brought like his shampoo to the ocean and this, you know, original Pete stuff. And this guy was like, you are so granola. Like yours is a hippie, like, crunchy. And they were like, oh, crunchy Pete. That just has a ring to it.

And ever since that day, it's kind of like trying to call Harry Big Beautiful. It just kind of rolled in and rolled in and rolled in and now it's a crunchy Pete. That's it. Yeah, he's a beautiful character. It wasn't like a whitewater rafting instructor or something? A lot out there. Yeah. Yeah.

I got to ask you this because you mentioned earlier. You moved to Sea Island. I mean, it's a hub for a ton of tour players. What are the games like in an off week? Y'all get some action going? I get asked that all the time. And they are, they're so normal for us now. I wouldn't say the stakes are high, which is, I mean, I could lie on here and make it sound cool.

Yeah, just do that. I don't know for our cars. But it's more of the pride of beating Pat and Gassire and making him pay you $10. It's worth a million dollars to me. I love that. But my next question was, who's the pigeon of the group of all the tour players? Who gets slapped around the most? There's got to be someone.

And if you don't know, then it's probably you. You know the old saying, Joe. Yeah, it is. No, it is. It's probably me because I am so lackadaisical when I play golf at home that no one wants to be on my team when we're betting because I'm just like talking and hitting balls and playing and just being me. And they're like, dude, we're three down with three to go.

let's go I'm like oh shit sorry what's your favorite one to play down there you have you have seaside you have ocean forest frederica where do y'all play the most at we like to play the most at ocean forest just because it's probably the hardest best test of golf i heard it is brutal yeah do you not play the Jones Cup down there i played the Jones club i mean your amber career was you know stellar i've been not won that dude yeah it was at frederica ocean club was getting redone the year i played there oh sorry guys um what's your when on a get off week and you got all the guys around What's your percentage play versus practice? Are you on the range all the day guy?

I'm 50-50. You mix it up? Yeah, I'm 50-50. And it's a pretty safe 50-50. Like, I could, one week it might be one different, but I'm pretty even on that. All right. Well, I want to ask you about this little hidden gym you're a part of outside of your hometown of Chattano. Ooh, yeah.

Sweetens Co. Let's go. There's a couple of guys that are somewhat famous that are also involved. Andy Rodick, Peyton Manning, and Jeff Mitchell. I mean, how did you get involved with this? and tell us a little bit about Sweet's Coke because I've never been there. I looked it up today on the internet.

I've driven by it. I mean, the place looks unreal. It is awesome. And the only reason I'm involved was when they were doing the capital raise to for all the investors and happened to be exactly after I won the Honda.

How convenient. Got some money. And so the big man, I get a voice message and say, hey man, congrats on your win. got this little thing going on, you know, I hope you want to be a part of it.

And, I mean, sold. I'm guessing the big man was Peyton, who's the big man? Yeah, there we go. Okay, yeah. And when you get a call, Social Security number and my blood type. I don't know how much it is.

I don't know what we're doing. I don't know anything about this, but yes, I'm in. And so long story short, he was like, yeah, don't send your Georgia football players at me if we lose all your money, you know, trying to cover his app. But what's the deal with the golf course? Is it public?

It's, yes. And it's just a nine-hole track that I, believe it or not, I played it before any of this hype came around. And it was just a local nine-hole track. I mean, it would be like you driving to anywhere here in Scott's Tale, there was a nine-hole course. And that's it.

It's 20 bucks to play. And it's now gotten so much hype that people expect. that they're going to play Augusta National or they're going to play Whisper Rock or they're going to play something incredible place, but they forget that the origins of this place where it's just literally a muni, 45 minutes side outside of Chattanooga

in South Pittsburgh, Tennessee. And that's how incredible the architecture was, how incredible just the scenery is and how good of a job Rob Collins designed it, that it got all this organic traction of pure golfer saying, wow, this place is really, really cool. You all need to go check this out.

It feels like it's the average, man's you know British open course or something like that and so I had known about it I'd played it before but then when Peyton called me and said it and we're doing the bourbon line too Sweetens Cove bourbon is is really the kind of the fun spinoff of that

where we've we made our first release was last year we made a 13 year old whiskey Tennessee straight bourbon whiskey I think is how you describe it I'm not an expert at that but it tastes really good golf and bourbon that's a nice little side hustle did you know when most of our guests are involved in booze though yeah yeah i can't even get you to do that i mean i can't even get this stuff it's so hard to find you got your name on the damn did you know my name are you kidding me i'm the i figured you'd be first than those other two larries would be after that most companies are like hey look i can do this

for you and i can help you do this and golf like yeah keith that's how you should explain it and give us your money and we'll do the rest yes i got a bourbon company i'm letting peyton be involved on the side a little bit. Did you know Peyton before this or was this pull out of the blue or what? I was fortunate enough to grow up playing a little bit at the honors course in Chattanooga, Tennessee. And Peyton always spends a lot of his spring there. He has a house in Chattanooga. And so I would just kind of seen him every once in a while around the club.

And he was always, I mean, as we all know, Peyton is just the most down-to-earth superstar ever. And so he was always nice to me. And I, you know, kind of kept in touch with him here and there a little bit. And then I guess he thought I was worthy when I had enough money to pay for us. He waited perfectly until he was like, let's wait on this guy. Now's the time. Call him Monday. By the way, can you guess what the record for most holes in one day at Sweetens Cove's

is? In one day? One day, nine whole track. 251. 252. What? Very good guess. 250 hole and ones in one day up there?

No, no, no, no. Holes plate. Oh, holes plate. I think it's at holes plate. Oh, that's plate. 250. 252 holes in one day. That's buzzing around quite a few times.

Can we talk about how it was only one off there? Yeah, that was actually really. But it does say it on the website. I mean, I should have known. He wrote the paragraph. It's all I got called sweet. I was like, the fact that I'm missing by one is the other.

I don't know. I'll take a shot in the dark. 251 or thereabouts. The pictures of this place just looks. No, it is. Do you get down there much? Yeah, I was actually, I took our dear friend Bobby Wyatt to play in our,

we call the founders guest or whatever. And I'll tell you a quick story about this. Because I'm playing and I got the best compliment of my entire life. And I'm going to say this on here because I promise you, it makes me, makes me feel seven feet tall. I am playing a match against Eli. And Eli is part of it too. And I gave him a shot, half a shot at a hole.

No, no. I take that back. I gave him a shot a hole. And because we played. Shot a hole sounds better go with it. Yeah. Go with two. No, it is because he was a four.

And so that would make sense. Okay. Because you're playing nine holes. I gave him a shot a hole. And he beat me two up in the first nine holes. And so I asked him how much you wanted to play for. I was like, what do you want to play for? I'm like, $100 a hole?

He's like, yeah. How about $20 a hole? I'm like, dude, I mean, I've made a thousandth of what you've made in your sports career. But you're the one bringing this down. Anyway, he beats me two up in the first nine holes. I press. He beats me two up on the next. nine holes. So I'm like, all right, here's your 80 bucks, but I get to get it back in a

football contest. He's like, perfect. So we put a cooler out on the putting green and we walk 40 yards back. And since I gave him a shot a hole, he gives me an extra throw. Just one? Right. I don't think that's enough. Well, so I, and by the way, Eric Decker is playing in the thing too, the old wide receiver. His wife was playing. I'd be cool. Yeah, it would be way cool. He was playing. And so I the first I throw two and miss he throws misses I throw two I miss he throws again and misses so I'm like wow I'm just bonus balls now you're basically as good as Eli so I hoop I hope the next one and then he misses so he has to give me his 80 bucks back and then Eric Decker walks over and goes man do you play quarterback in high school oh god your head got bigger than sleeves I didn't no I love this is good

and I was like I am the least athletic person probably and the fact that that Eric Decker, a pro bowl wide receiver, asked me if I've played quarterback in high school. That actually reminds me because a good friend of yours, Drew Butler, who was a punter at the University. Georgia, and it was all the Georgia golf dudes. I was talking to him before, and we've had him on our radio show a few times. I think one of the questions we asked, like, amongst your Georgia golf friends,

if you had to start one of them at quarterback, who would it be? Correct me if I'm wrong, Cole. But I think he said you, and then it ended up being like a hybrid of you in Hudson Swapper or something like that. Hudson or Harris, yeah, Hudson or Harris English. So now you're, now you're eight feet tall, bud. Ayers is a punter. Now you're 8 feet tall.

All right. Well, we mentioned at the start. Rumor around the tour is you like your fancy, expensive, flashy things, which there's nothing wrong with that. Liking and having and spending on it is completely different. Well, that's what I want to know is. Do you have any fancy, you know, high flutin things? I have the sweetest car.

I have the best car in the world. What do you got? It's a BMW M5 competition and it's from BMW. Like, yeah, BMW was like, we want you to have this. car. That's handy around Sea Island, I bet. I can have the fancy car. And unlike Arm, who went and bought it before he played in the tournament, I was giving

it to me after the tournament. Oh, so you wait to get the, and then the free shit comes. So it's like, yeah, I have the fancy stuff, but BMWs the best ever. A race car, BMW has got to be a convenient thing to have around the gated community at Sea Island. The speed limit is 12, 35. And that car goes zero 35 and a half a second. So it doesn't do much.

Yeah, that's nice. You get to the clubhouse in four seconds and said it's well. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good thing I have around there. Oh, that is. Yeah, it's a half a second. I love it. But, okay, what is one thing?

Say money wasn't an option. What would Keith Mitchell buy? Ooh, just anything. Anything. Oh, that's a very open-ended thing. Wow. Yeah. Because I know you like cars.

You like boats. You like jets. I mean, you like, what do we all like? Keep going. Yeah, you're a dude. Got it. Yeah. If money's not an option

I just happen to know more about the fancy stuff I'm not that I mean I would just I would buy a sweet boat And we would all go hang out on it And you go cruise around in the Caribbean And we're talking about a yacht or we talking Yeah like a mega yacht If you said money's not an option

I'd have the biggest boat with all the small boats attached to it And a submarine on it and a helicopter pad And we have the old deal Sounds pretty nice That does make sense Make a lot of money That does make sense What about wine?

What about wine? If you got your pick of the litter, bottle of wine, you get to have a nice evening with the girlfriend. What are you going with? I'll just give you it to you. It would be an amadeo pepe, which is an Italian wine, and it is legit.

It was my, what, if you were talking to a wine person, I would call your, like your first wine that you had. You're like, oh my God, this stuff is.

No clue what it is. Never heard of it in my life. Sounds like it would be really good. 150 bucks, 200 bucks. No, I was expecting like $5,000 or something. Weird shit. Quit being so cheap, Keith.

Treat your girlfriend nice. I mean, $150. I was just get her some mums. I was ready for some weird. That comes in a box. Weird. That was weird. 150.

It comes in a box. Yeah, I've never heard of it. I want to ask you another thing you're known for. You're known as a pretty good prankster. And you got one that went on Twitter and it ended up going fairly viral, I think. That was with Phil Mickelson, I believe, at the Wells Fargo when he fell asleep in front of your locker, just passed out on the bench and you took a picture of him on that. When you saw him there, did you know immediately like this, this is my time?

This is the guy that gets everybody and now is my time to get him. Well, the reason it all started was I played with him in a practice round at the Masters probably a month before. I think it's about a month before. So I had never really known Phil. And I felt comfortable enough to do that. So if I hadn't played with him, we hadn't kind of, you know, just shot the shit playing in the practice round.

probably wouldn't have felt compelled to do that. But he also at the time was just ripping on everyone on social media. He just got in social media. He felt like the king of social media. You know, he's doing the two tip miscut Tuesdays or whatever his little. The firesides and all that. And all that,

you know, he just felt like he was on top of the world, right? So I just felt, you know, I was like, this is gold. And I promise you he was so pissed. He was?

Yeah, that's what I want to get into. What'd you do with it? Did you see it? See, I don't think I saw this. Dude, he's literally passed out his hats like over his head. He's just asleep next to his locker. First of all, Phil, you have your own pod because you've won that event that has three

lockers in a row with your own bench with no one near you because you've won. But you decide to go sleep in front of other people's locker so they can't get in. You have your own bed pretty much. And so he doesn't sit in front of his. He has to go in front of mine. So I'm sitting there looking and there's his locker with. empty lockers on either side of him, but he's in front of mind.

I'm like, oh my God, this is too good. I'm taking a picture of this. And so I put it up and my agent's here. And he, Phil and I work with the same agency company, just different guys. And I'm like, hey man, you need to check my Instagram. He's like, all right, whatever.

And then an hour later, I'm like, bro, did you, did you look at my Instagram? He's like, no. I was like, dude, you need to check this out before something happens. And he was like, oh my God. Was there a caption? Yeah, there was a caption.

I was to pull it up. And so he calls Loy. He calls Steve Loy. And Loy's dying laughing. He's like, no, that's great. Phil needs this. Phil comes in there in the locker room. That's our sanctuary.

You can't take pictures in the locker room. Oh, blah, blah. And I'm like, Phil, I get it. You're right. Like, it is a locker room, right? But it was, there's no harm to foul here. And so he finally got over it. Okay.

He finally swallowed his pride. And he was like, okay you got me this was about a week later and then he's telling everybody that he's gonna give me back he's just telling everybody he's gonna give me back he's gonna give me back

he's gonna give me back has he? Well he tried oh what's that? I don't know that one so he I don't know if you all

heard the story about Phil and the cop and the other caddy they wrote a story about it Doug Ferguson wrote the story about it feel free to Phil's in he gets a cop to get a caddy

and puts him in the back of the car and he does his whole spiel and he pranks his catty. So Phil's bragging about these stories about how he's uses cops to prank people and he's waited forever and ever and ever to do it. You know, he'll hold a grudge forever. Well, I'm at the players. And this was, you know, about a month later.

But he's telling everybody he's going to give you back. So I'm kind of got my head on this level, right? I walk in and a cop grabs me. and he goes hey keith i need to see you i'm like okay and i'm i'm sorry getting nervous i'm like what's going on why is this cop pulling me off to the side and i kind of look around there's a lot of people standing there and he's like yeah i need you to read this you know it's a lawsuit and it's a paternity suit that's elaborate that's a and he writes this whole thing out and i look at the cop and so now i'm starting playing off the cop right i'm going to see if he

cracks because you know this is serious a you wouldn't be doing it in the breezeway of sawgrass and the players on a Wednesday or a Thursday and I'm like okay where do I sign he's oh you got to

read the whole thing I'm like I understand where do I need a sign for this you know because obviously it's whatever he goes well you know you got to read this but just sign here and so I just signed in big letters Phil Mickelson and handed it right back to him and walked off and I walk

in that locker room. What the hell? How'd you know? You knew somebody told you. Oh, and he is losing his mind. So he tried to give me back. That's good. I didn't know about the rebuttal.

Yeah, I don't like that. That's new. I can't believe he got so mad at the, like the, you know, it's a sanctuary. Phil,

the guy that pranks every. When he first was reacting with that. I don't, I don't disagree with him. Like, if you don't want people taking pictures in our locker room all the time, put them on social media.

Like, I get that. How many, you don't see that many pictures and locker rooms in NFL. But if it's a fun picture, you know, somebody, it's different, right?

It's not like somebody was getting out of showers or, you know, doing something they shouldn't be doing. It was a completely harmless picture. I understand the picture in the locker room. I didn't understand him getting pissed about it. You're not recording conversations.

No, we're not doing anything like that. If anyone can handle it, it's Philip. Yeah. It'll be just fine. He finally got over it. He tried to give me back. He didn't, but trust me, I know he's got some of them.

Got to wake up a little earlier, Keep that head on the swivel because he still might. It got to the point where I thought that he might like, if we were taking a flight somewhere that he would literally make the pilots land somewhere else and then just me get out in a different city and pay for it. Divert you to Omaha. Exactly. That's how elaborate I know Phil can get.

Well, I guarantee you hadn't forgot. No. So keep that head on it. And now that I'm saying this again, it might, you know, kindle that fire a little bit. And he might. I hope so. I love the Franks Island, George. Oh, yeah.

That's fantastic. Should we get to the evening? I got one more serious. I wanted to ask a real, this is a serious question. You've recently made the switch from flat brim hat guy back to visor guy.

Why the switch back to the promised land? I've always been a visor guy. If you can find some old Georgia pictures and even, I mean, I don't even know if they have whatever amateur pictures if I was playing in something.

That was probably in the last place, so it didn't matter. But when I was at Georgia, I definitely wore a Georgia visor. So I'm always, and visors. And when I was with Nike, it was like kind of a uniform to wear a flat bill for me. They didn't have the cool visors and I have a huge noggin. So the flat bill's fit in my head better. And that was that. It felt like my uniform. I was strapping up to go out in the

battlefield. And that's what the flat bill was for me. And now I can have the, got a nice, a nice deal with Cisco this year. And they've been an amazing group of people to work with. And they wanted the front of the hat. And then you can wear whatever you want. I'm like, well, let's rock this baby. How good is it feel to be back? Because I notice I'm a visor guy.

Your dome is the perfect proportion. The hair line is very nice. You're a visor guy at heart. You just masqueraded as a flat-bram guy for a while. I did. Yeah. So the people that knew me well knew that I was an OG visor guy. And then the newcomers were like, oh, what's this new visor?

I'm like, uh-uh. It's old, baby. It's old school. You got to feel free. Free now out there. I mean, I might even have to get some, I don't know what should I do. Some product? I don't, maybe should I let it grow out?

No product. Maybe just let it flow a lot of products in yours. I do a little bit now, but I've been visor because I got an enormous head too, so the hats never fit me. Do you put the product? No, no, no, never ever with the visor. No, I think product with visor, that's bad, bad look. You got to let it just be free and let it do whatever. It's kind of the Ian Poulter look.

Remember when he used to have the spikey? That's way too much like there's too much vanity in that. Like I'm going to put a hat on and put in. Nah, bud. Come on. If you're a visor guy, you're a free spirit. You know what I mean? Don't complicate things.

Yeah, just let it breathe. But I saw you last week in Hawaii and I was like, he's back. I'm back. Big things coming. Huge. Just because you got the visor back. Hey, I mean, I've had my best week in a while last week. Exactly.

It's because you're back. You're back to your roots. All right. Let's get into this. I know you've seen our show many of times. You're a big fan, especially the podcast. Huge man. Especially the barn rat episode.

Yes, the rat. All right. But number one, we always asked everybody. Movie made about the life of Keith, Kevin, Jeff, Mitchell, whoever, who gets to play that person? If I get to pick. Any actor, dead or live. Somebody got mad at us the other day on the internet because whoever we picked was dead. I'm like, it's dead or alive.

Who was it? Oh, it was Harry Higgs, Philip Seymour Hoffman, which is only the only, that's the right answer. And they're like, I was like, yeah, we're aware. Chubby Chris Pratt, when I saw some pictures, actually did work out. Correct. In hindsight, Chris Pratt was a little more accurate than I thought initially. You can pick anyone you want. Old school Leo. Oh, wow.

It's actually not that far-fetched. I'm talking like when he was like originally getting on, not like the new slick Leo. Catch me if you can. Yeah, that Leo. It's actually not far-fetched. It crossed my mind. I'm not. I'll accept it.

Okay. Yeah. You got a guy? I didn't really have one. I couldn't do it. That's why I'm accepting this old-school. You're one of one. You're two.

How is this guy? Look at all. You're too hard to cast. The movie will never be made. Idea is Miles Teller, which I think is a compliment. He's a funny guy, girls like him. Project X. Yeah, he's a dude, man.

He probably likes private planes and wine, too. Like I said, who doesn't? Exactly. He's already halfway into the role. All right, next question. We talked about this a little bit earlier. Can you name all of the current Georgia Bulldogs playing full time on the PJ tour right now?

Yes. Okay, go. I'm going to test it. Bubba Watson. Correct. Chris Kirk. Brendan Todd. Harris English.

Hudson Swoffer. Russell Henley Brian Harmon Keith Mitchell Sep Straka How many left do I have Oh you're gonna tell me He doesn't know the total

He doesn't know the total Pay no attention to these fingers You're at nine I'm at nine There's a few more Just Compton count Because didn't he have to know No I don't I didn't

I said just full time I'm going right now Like they got whatever they want to get in Okay playing So you're missing Well Well kids Yeah, you hit him, I think.

I don't think I did. You almost left out, kiss. I almost left out. I was kind of hoping you left a guy out and we get back on you. That's 10. I don't know how many there is. I don't know how many there is. This is his question. You got Patrick Reed.

Are you claiming Patrick Reed? Are you going to give him to Augusta? That's tough. That's a, I'll let the people decide. Do you have the list? Yeah, dude, I got them right here. I come prepared. Bubba, Brian Harmon, Brendan Todd, Chris Kirk,

Keith Mitchell, Kevin Kisner, Harris, English, Rush and me Hudson Swofford. Sepp Straca, big question mark asteris, Patrick Reed. He did attend the university. Well, and Joey Garber, was on the tour two years ago and he's on Corn Ferry. And Grayson Sig

pretty much has his tour card locked up on the corn ferry this year. So he's almost guaranteed to be on tour next year. It's going to be 20. The leaderboard looks like a qualifying round. So you already have two guys in the pipeline. Joey is about to be back on, and Grayson pretty much is going to be back on. So there's

12 right there. Just half the damn tour. All right, number three. I don't know if it was last year the year before you played with Commissioner Monaghan Both years, yeah, two years. Because we are obviously super tight. Wow, face of the tour.

I'm going to let you, he's going to let you be assistant commissioner for a day. What's the first piece of advice or what do you have Commissioner Jay Monaghan change to the PGA tour? Wow. Jay's amazing, by the way. Yeah, he is.

That's a lot of power. He is unbelievable. You've got a lot of power here. A lot of power here. You're going to be like, hey, Jay, this is what I think you should do. Let's change these things from four days of three days.

Maybe I had a cart. I would just say make the fall series shorter. So you have a little off season? I mean, this year I had four weeks off. Yeah. I mean, you look at every other major sport. They have time off. And I'm not saying we could lose sponsors.

We lose market share. But it's a lot of golf. Like, it's never, it never ends. And I think that's why you see some of the young guys coming up and their stamina is better. It's just the fact that you see guys like Stuart Sink and Jim Furek and Brian Gay competing at 40-something years old against us and traveling that much and playing that much. It's insane. It's amazing.

So that is a very surface-level answer that you only gave me 30 seconds to think about. So I would hate to say that. That's part of being commissioned, dude. You've got to think on your feet. Right. But I just, I'm not complaining about having a lot of tournaments. It's just a lot of stress. I mean, there's.

full-time people guys are paying hundreds of thousand dollars a year on their bodies to try to just keep up and playing and I mean it's a lot yeah they're definitely way more injuries part of that's the gym too but part of it is there's no break zero yeah and every every week you take off you feel like you're losing ground yeah it's really hard you actually have to schedule off weeks

and they'll like change if you want to do something like I need to change something in my swing there's no really time to do it unless you're doing it on the fly do it in the off season and you know for four weeks I mean come on we all know four weeks isn't enough to change I mean hopefully you're your own pediatura not changing but that's nor here nor there yeah all right our next question this i got a little help from your buddy brandon harkins here on this one he says are you embarrassed that you claim to be a big fisherman but yet your girlfriend is the only one who can cast your fish off

of your own dock that is a true statement you built this big nice dock up until you can't catch nothing so i have fished out there at least a hundred times i've seen fished cast it out on everything i have caught zero i was out there one day i saw a couple redfish slimming in the the stream right by the dock. I called J.T. He's like, get the rod. There's four fish right here in this little pool and hurry up.

And of course, J.T. moves at a snail's pace all the time. As you know, just the JT. posting for those, the postman. I run to him and then run back. That's how fast. That's how much faster I was moving. I cast out of like four times. Nothing. He goes, give me the rod. One cast, boom,

catches redfish. So then during quarantine, we're out there and I'm fishing, I'm fishing. And Claire's like, let me throw one in there. And she throws one in there right there. And she just starts hollering. She's got a trout on the line. And I have a video of her trying to throw it back in the water

and listening to her squeal throwing that fish back in is hilarious. So yes, I've, J.T. Poston has caught one off my dock. My girlfriend's caught one off my dock. And I have not. Wow. Well, we can stand a little fishing question here because I got one as well. I was watching some of your Mickelope Ultra little commercials with the Sea Island boys or whatever the hell you all call it down there.

The mafia. I mean, we got jupe live. Juke. Yeah, we need a name out here. Rank these, yeah, rank these tour players from best to worst fishermen. Okay. You, J.T. Poston, Harris English, Patton, Kazer. Okay, not to get too technical.

We talk in saltwater, freshwater, big difference. Oh, wow. I don't need to do. You're talking to me and Colt, bud. We watch national. We cruise through National Geographic. That's all we know about fish. I would say Patton is number one at freshwater, and then us three are tied for worst.

JT Harris and I And then in salt water I would say I've experienced the most amount of time and effort doing it and JT is probably better and he has done way less How do you be better in one water

than the other water? Just luck? Oh well it's water and how are you good in salt and not good? If we're talking about fly fishing if you're talking about fly fishing and salt water it's completely different than a bait caster

casting for a bass. It's completely different like fly fishing is literally like learning a golf swing out there and bait casting is just trying to use your thumb so it doesn't bird nest on you. I couldn't throw a baitcaster for me to the other side of this table without it tangling. But I can throw a fly line, you know, 70, 80 feet. I can't do any of it. Have your girlfriend help you with that. She'll, come on, Claire. She'll tighten you up a little bit. Yeah, let's go, Claire. All right, next question. Would you agree to play in the Zurich next year with Nick Savin as your

partner if it meant that the University of Georgia would beat Alabama? Yes. A hundred percent. That's loyalty to the squad. You know, you're going to miss the cut. You're going to miss the cut. He's not that good. That's fine. I've missed a lot of cuts and I'm just fine. Okay.

That's a man. And I might get a couple, and might get a nice tip from him or something about it. That was a definitive answer. But you also have to have some camaraderie and high five and coach him up. I think everyone at the University of Georgia would love for me to do that. So we could beat that. Maybe you do that.

That kind of can lead into the next question as well. Who do Georgia Bulldogs hate more? Florida, Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets. Florida. Florida. Florida. Wow.

Really? It's that definitive. Not even close. Not even close. Wow. I thought it would be like an SEC school because it's like bad. I mean, Georgia Tech, they're just. Yeah, I don't even think they're enough like football drives everything.

They're not. They're not. They're not. It's Florida. It's not hands down. And you can ask any Georgia that. Any Georgia guy that comes on the show asking that question, I promise you will say the same thing. I would have figured it was Alabama just because they're so good.

Alabama's new. Because you're a curse. It's new. It's fresh. It's not an old longstanding hate. It's like just new blood. And so yeah, I mean, we hate Alabama because Tua threw that pass and to DeVante Smith. I mean, two of the best college players ever play the game.

Yeah, I didn't want to bring it up. I mean, I hate it. So would you play in the Zurich with Tim Tebow? No. Well, you're going to be cursed because now God hates you. All right. All right, next question. Wow.

Okay. Maybe delete that part. Oh, my goodness. Okay. What's so wrong with that? Whatever. All right, next question. Let's keep it.

The producer in the back is the color of Tim Tebow's jersey right now. Oh, yeah. All right, we can tweak all that. Don't worry. All right. This is a good question. We're getting to the rat here. I've heard you say if you weren't on the PJ tour that you'd like to do something in finance.

Okay. So test your financial advisor skills here. Okay. What advice would you give to Kyrdeck Alpha Barn Rat who spends every dollar he makes on either cars, shoes, or watches? How would you advise him? Well, I've talked to him about all three of these things.

He has found a way to buy these watches that sell on the secondary market for triple what he pays for him. So he makes money off this dude. It's like polter and his Ferraris. Kyrdex has all these paddocks and Rolexes that are, you know, 10, 20, 30 grand that sell for $60,000, $600,000. He is, trust me, he's not an idiot. He has got it. No, he came on this show is brilliant. No, about his, I mean, I'm not finance.

financial advising. Like he, it's as crazy as it may sounds. And it's probably coming from a watch freak too. So he's not, he's making good investments. Okay. And he's watches.

If he sells them or not, that's not up to me. But the value that he is paid for them and what he could sell them for is a lot different. So are you going to do that if you win again, start buying some watches, shoes and cars? That is the,

I tell myself that if I win, I will buy a watch to commemorate a win. And after I won the Honda, I bought one watch to commemorate a win. I bought a Rolex. Okay, very nice. Would you give him that same advice, though, because with his shoes, he buys one pair as a collector's item and one pair to wear?

I listened to that, and I started laughing out loud. That is fantastic. His wife thought he was cheating on him because he had another apartment. What does you know it's for his shoes? What about the rent he spends on the apartment that just takes care of his shoes? Is that good or is that smart or not smart? I can't attest to that, but that is awesome. Can we say it's awesome?

I don't care if it's smart or not smart. It's awesome. He lives how we all want. No one would do that except him and that's why we love him. Yeah, it puts a down payment on a Ferrari after his first win. Like, I'll figure out the rest of the 150 later on. All I know is I can drive out here with it. It's unbelievable.

That guy's amazing. All right, last question. We've obviously talked to you like your finer things in life throughout this whole show. No, y'all are telling me. Yeah, we're feeding it too. Everyone that we talk to says this. It's been knowledgeable about them because I didn't study school while I studied Instagram. The younger generation.

The younger generation, maybe you're just. generation started this new word recently called boozy. Is Keith Mitchell bougie? I don't think so. No? No, that's, I don't think so. Define boogey though. Yeah, I find it. I don't know. I don't even know what it means. But you just said you weren't it so you feel like right. Right. Yeah, you're yeah. I feel like it's like flashy. Yeah, like Ferrari. Like just wanting your. Yeah. And and and like gold. I don't wear gold. Or maybe if you can't afford it like, hey, I'm down payment on everything I'm wearing, but I don't own any of it. Yeah.

I couldn't afford it. Yeah, but I'm still going to go get it for whatever the minimum amount of cash I can get. I think you might want to be boozy. Oh, really? The definition according to this is. According to what? What is this? Is this urban dictionary?

Luxurious and lifestyle, yet humble and character. Oh, wow. I didn't, what's wrong with that? That is amazing. Who wrote that definition? There's all kinds of different definition. Is that Webster or is that urban dictionary? Yeah, I thought that would be urban dictionary.

Or is that Colts dictionary? Oh, no, I don't have a dictionary. I can't even read. Yeah, good point. Yeah, I can't find that. We're just going to go with that one. I love it. Then I would love to be bougie.

Boogey doesn't sound that bad now. Yeah, and this other definition, one who possesses swag and he's elite and rich. Sounds great. That sounds amazing. Keith Mitchell is boozy. That could be like big. Maybe that's Jeff. Boogie Jeff.

Yeah. Your alter ego, Jeff's just like, you know, whatever, normal guy. Jeff. Yeah, Jeff likes to spin a little quickly. Well, Keith, this has been my pleasure. my man. Thank you so much for joining us. This is, thanks for this call. This is, fills my soul.

Well, that was Boogie Keith Mitchell on golf subpar, dude. He's a beauty. I had a blast with him. I reached out to like three of his buddies, like, hey, give me something on Keith. And to a man, all three of them were like, he likes really nice shit. He's fancy as fuck all this type. Like Joel and James, or excuse me, in Harkinson

and all those guys. It was the same answer problem, but he was awesome, dude. And one thing that we brought up that I don't think got enough credit in the golf world was Phil Mixon's always guy pulling pranks and like get one up he pulled a good one on phil who apparently didn't like it but didn't get in i didn't that i don't feel like that got it's just and he didn't fall for phil's rebuttal which i which i really really liked but you know like going back to the whole liking nice things he makes great point he's like well don't you like yeah i like flying private i like

nice wine yeah yeah nice watches of course who doesn't yeah but he he prides himself on those nice things yeah and it sounds like he does a very good job at it and you can when you went in bj pj tour events taking down the likes of brooks and I was going to say, what a way. Shit, treat yourself. What a way to get your first PJ tour win. Here's the people at the Honda Classic, and I'm just guessing, but they are salivating when Brooks Keppka and Ricky Fowler in the clubhouse

and Keith Mitchell, who's relatively unknown at the time, has to lay up on this par five. They're like, okay, we're about to have a playoff with two massive names and some guy named Keith Kevin, Jeff Mitchell. Okay? And then all of a sudden, Keith Mitchell steps up and buries a 15-footer to win it. And I don't say, I didn't say he ruined the people's day, but didn't probably give them what they wanted, but I mean, what a way to do it.

Yeah, you got for trying to win for the first time knowing that I either make this put or I got to go into a playoff with two of the best players in golf at the time. Like, not one, you know, three for one, not liking your odds there. And then to make that and then that's just kind of propel them. And like from a talent perspective, this guy seems to have it all. Looking forward to seeing what he does the rest of the year. But it was cool to sit down with him, never met him, never talked to him. And easy guy to root for.

Yeah, and we got to get him to take us out to the Sweet and Coves. Yeah, that place sounds sweet and sweet and sweet. Sweetens Cove. Sweetens Cove. Yeah, Sweet Cove. I've driven by it, never stepped foot in it. The pitchers look incredible. Looks like a blast.

He could at least send us some of their whiskey, some of their booze. Because we do like to get amongst it. Be the polite thing to do. A lot of guys like to bring gifts in. Thank you for having us. Me on your show. Here's some free booze. That's all we ask.

Absolutely. We're simple. We're simple guys. Simple guys. But yeah, that Sweeten Cove place sounds sweet. And it's cool that Peyton Manny called him up. Hey, you want to get involved in this deal? I think if you get that phone call, just quick yes, no matter what it is.

Yeah. I mean, it's Peyton Manning, of course. How could you say no to Peyton Manning? Without question. All right. Well, it was a lot of fun with Keith. Special thanks to him for coming on. But Sleys, now it's time to get to something that I'm enjoying a little bit more than you are, I believe.

And that's the gambling segment of the show. And we're doing a little different this year. We're doing one and done. So you get to pick one guy. You get to pick one guy each week. Once you use them, you're done with him for the season. Producer Mark, would you like to go over some of the results from last week's Farmers Insurance Open? The last week, Drew.

made a very bold pick in Charles Howell the third, who unbeknownst to him was going off at 120 to 1 on Fanduil the win. To be fair to Drew, though, he had made 17 straight cut. Yeah, I was going to wait to after you got done to defend myself. Just 17. I just wanted to defend my guy. Made millions and millions of dollars at this golf course. And by the way, finishing the top 20 basically half the time. So not, not a far stretch there to pick Charles Howell. He did. And a lot of people on Twitter pointed it out when he missed the cut. So you had to deal with that all weekend. I get that. Colt, on the other hand, Tony Finole, tied for second with Xander. And as Colt mentioned before, that was worth a cool $456,000, giving Colt the lead of 494, 632 on the short year.

Okay. Just a small deficit. So wait, half a mill. I'm confused. What sleaze's total? Yeah, quick update on me? That would be zero. Zero. It stayed at zero. Okay, I thought maybe maybe it's given like a little appearance fee, five grand or something. We got to talk. about this though because here this is a one and done pool right it's not like you're having to pick scrubs you can pick anyone in the field and you've gone between this and our gravy in the sleeves on serious x-m over just three straight cuts oh for three on our radio show i'm oh for two over well tell me who i've picking that sucks charles house got the best record in the history of tory pines i mean the guy never plays bad and i took russell henley at uh american express the best iron player on

tour since they came back as a second shot golf i mean i don't know here's my problem i've identified you want me to tell you one problem is i'm doing too much research i wouldn't never picked Charles Howell last week. Too much reading for the sense. If I hadn't gone back and be like, oh my God, this is an unbelievable track. Never missed the cut. Always finished in the top tweet. I would have never picked him. But then I go researching. And then I lead myself to it. Cole, look at his head. It's big. It's enormous, right? You know what lives inside of here? An enormous brain. I got to start using my brain. Less computers, more brain. I'm done researching. I'm done stats. I'm going off the gut, going off the brain now. Team meeting.

We got to switch things up. All I know is that if you happen to go out and pick, say, John Rom, who's the number two ranked player in the world this week for the waste management Phoenix Open and he misses the cut, this is going to be known as the Slease factor. It's trending. Like, this is a serious problem. Yeah, I'm, I'll be willing. If I pick another big dog and they miss the cut, I'm going to start just taking money like, oh, you want me to pick you this week?

Right, the kid off a little piece. All right. Well, let's get right to it. Let's make our picks for this week. The Waste Management Phoenix Open, Slease, making his debut as a Thunderbird. Obviously not working very hard. He's sitting here with me right now. I think I'm the only Thunderbird active.

There's 55. I think I'm the only one to not have stepped foot on property yet. That's a love an accomplishment. The MVP trophy, this is dedication to the show, dude. I'm showing you love. I'll take it. Probably no MVP for me this year. That's all right.

All right. Well, we got a big event. We're going to have some fans out there. 5,000 a day. It's going to be a lot of fun to watch. For my one and done pick, I'm going to see if I can stay hot here. I'm going to a guy. He's a two-time champion around TPC Scottsdale.

He's also got a second. And in the last two years he's finished 15th and 16th. For some reason, he kind of likes this place. Hasn't missed a cut in a while, but hasn't really played that great. Finished second at the Houston Open back in 2020. I'm going, Hideki Matsiyama. And wouldn't it just be the situation where the one week where I just say, I'm scrapping all research, I'm not going to look at a computer, doing nothing.

I come in and I had Hadeki pegged and then you picked him. So it's a good pick. I like that pick that pick. I just know that he's won multiple times here and it seems to never play back. You can pick him as well. No, I'm down 500 grand. A tie is a loss at this point. I got to make up some ground.

So I'm going, this will be the litmus test right here, but if I strike out and get a goose egg this week, then it's just, it's a wrap that's over because I'm going with one of my favorite guys. on tour. I like to pick him any week I can, really. But I'm going Xander Shafley, 10 to 1, runner up last week. It's played well here. You want to know what he finished last year? I don't know because I don't give a shit. I just know he's really, really good. So I'm going Xander at 10 to 1, no research, no nothing. This is the one, but if this does, if there's not an actual dollar sign next to my name after this week, we got stressed. There's a dollar sign right now. It just says zero. If there's not something more than

like an actual real number next to it. Okay. Well, you got Zander. I I've got Hideki. So let's go through some other picks we might like. As far as a favorite, by the way, I'm big on Zander this week. I like him. But my favorite to win the golf tournament, I just don't want to burn him yet, my one and done. He's making his first appearance here at TPC Scottsdale. The golf course is perfect for him.

He hits high draws off the tee. I followed him last week, and he's driving it like a god. It's unbelievable to watch. I really enjoyed it. Roy McElroy, I think, wins this golf tournament this week. It's a, you couldn't find a better place from him. And the one thing that seems to give him issues, and it's tough at Tori because those greens, those are polona.

They start bouncing around in the afternoon. These greens are perfect, and they're not tough by tourist standards in terms of, like, the slope and thing. If you get a good feel on those things, you can hold some putts. So can never disagree with the Rory pick. I'm going to go, if I'm just picking a winner, Xander's my guy for their survivor. I like John Rom around this place. It's a home game this week. It's played really well here.

What, top five or top eight or something as an amateur when he was still at Arizona State? Yeah, fourth. He's used to all the grass. It's very comfortable. I mean, John Rom will probably be the guy for me. He's sleeping his own bed? Yeah, sleep in the own bed. No fans, none of that to deal with.

Rom and Rory, we're going out on a limb in terms of the wins there. Yeah, no doubt. Yeah. Number two and number seven in the world. Props to us for taking his... But let's go a little dark course. Because my dark course last week, Ryan Palmer, that started off the week at 50 to 1,

finished tied for second. He's been playing some great golf. Been a lot of fun to watch Ryan kind of revamp his career at 44 years old. But I'm going with a guy who's been, had last year, in the West Coast swing, had three straight top 15s, also gets to sleep in his own bed this week. has been close so far this year, kind of trending, just very close.

I've been watching him very, very closely. And I love his action. I think he's going to have a big week here this week. It's our guy, Max Homa, 70 to 1. There you go. The home bed routine. Max Homa, you're watching them closely. I like that.

Very stalker, I show you. I watch you while you sleep, Max. All right, Max, what's his odds? 70 to 1. All right, I'm staying close. Which is no respect. I mean, especially, I think he finished 6th here last year, played great.

I mean, he was in the last group at Palm Springs a couple weeks ago. Sneaky had a good finish at Torrey Pines. I mean, the guy just strikes. And when you play with him, it's just like, how do you not shoot 68 or better? There's nothing that goes wrong ever. His golf swing looks perfect. He hits it pure every single time we're out there.

He's hard to figure out what it doesn't go right. He should be an absolute ATM machine. Yeah, and I think he may be turning into that. I'm going to stay a little closer to that 50 to 1 threshold. In fact, I'm going to stay right on it. Go with a previous champion. If you get a previous champion, long shot out, it's 50 to 1. I tend to like that.

Gary Woodland coming in, 50 to 1, God. Getting healthy. He had the little hip issue towards the end of the year last year, but getting healthy, work his way back. But another golf course, same way you said it, Ferroari sets up perfect for him. It's a place where Gary can fly a lot of those fairway bunkers that not everybody can. And clearly his record shows that he likes this joint. 501, Gary Woodland. He gave me a ride Sunday night from Torrey Pines back home to Scottsdale, which I really appreciate, but I still hate on him all the time. I told him we were talking about when he won here a few years ago and how he shot 64 on Sunday. And our guy, Chez Revy,

was battling down the stretch trying to win, you know, his hometown event, being an Arizona State kid. I told him, I said, I've never been more excited when Ches made that put to force the playoff with you. I was root for Chess so hard. It was unbelievable. But Gary, good pick around this joint. He still worries me that he's not 100% healthy yet.

He says he is, but athletes lie a lot. How do you look on the plane? Comfortable? It was very, very comfortable. Okay, good. Very hydrated as well. Very hydrated? Good.

I like a guy coming in and prepared taking care of that body. Yeah, but it's going to be a lot of fun. Waste Management, Phoenix Open, one of the biggest. events on the PGA tour schedule. If you need anything, just hit up sleeves. He can leave you tickets, you know, get you massages, food, booze, whatever you need. Sandwich, whatever you want to do? You want to meet Rory?

You want to hang out with Rory for a while? Just slide you on over. I know where he's staying, and I'll give out his information for a small, rather large food. Yeah, Venmo's open if you want a room number at Rory's hotel. All right. That's going to do it for us. Everybody have a great week. We'll talk to you on next week's golf subpar.