Subpar - Kevin Dougherty talks why he’ll never forget playing Pebble with Colt, finally earning his PGA Tour card

Episode Date: November 7, 2023

On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar, PGA Tour pro Kevin Dougherty joins former PGA Tour pro Colt Knost and jicky jack legend Drew Stoltz for an exclusive interview. The former Oklahoma State Cowbo...y talks finally earning his PGA Tour card after 133 professional starts, winning The Plantation Pro-Scratch event and why he will never forget playing Pebble with Colt. ----- Subscribe to our new YouTube Now: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt5ESUx6omMUsMoEKvMTzlA Shop The Birdie Juice Collection: https://fairwayjockey.com/collections/birdie-juice Follow Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/golf_subpar/?hl=en Follow Twitter: https://twitter.com/golf_subpar?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor ----- This week's episode of Subpar is brought to you by Cincoro Tequila. The Blanco, Reposado and Añejo can be enjoyed in cocktails, straight up or on the rocks, it’s the perfect golf course companion. So if you haven’t already, go to Cincoro.com or your local store to buy a bottle and try the delicious liquid. ----- Thanks to Ralph Lauren, the Official Outfitter of the United States Ryder Cup team and of GOLF's Subpar.  The RLX Golf collection is available in select Ralph Lauren stores, exclusive private clubs, and resorts, and online at RalphLauren.com. https://www.ralphlauren.com/brands-golf?&utm_source=OtherPartners&utm_medium=GolfSubparPodcastRLSponsorship_GolfSubpar_PodcastPlacement_2023_GolfSubparPodcastRLSponsorship

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Starting point is 00:00:09 Hello world. Welcome back to golf subpar with Colt Nost and Drew Stoltz. The worldwide technology championship is in the books. And Eric Van Royen picks up his second PGA tour win, an emotional win, Slees. As he recently found out, his best friend, best man in his wedding, college roommate, John Trasmore has melanoma and has just a few weeks to live. One of the most emotional interviews I can remember seeing after somebody winning. But him and his caddy Alex were very close. I went to the University of Minnesota together. Man, just crazy to think at 33 years old what this guy is going through, knowing that your best friend has just a few weeks to live. It showed that he was playing for more than just himself out there. Yeah, and I know in this show, we joke around, we goof around, do all that stuff. But like watching that interview, A, I was shocked he got through it. And then B, I was just thinking to myself, like, it's sad that it takes sometimes like a travesty, like in your life to really have that perspective change and that. perspective check. Like his quote at the end was like that last play he's like if I make it I make it if I don't who cares like it's just golf like this really doesn't matter and sometimes it takes like
Starting point is 00:01:18 maybe not a situation as drastic as Eric Van Roeans but like something where you lose a loved one or somebody's health like health is the easiest thing to take for granted in the world and then as soon as it's gone it's like it's the only thing that matters but it sometimes takes that to realize and it was just it's sad that it takes something like that but huge props to Eric Van Roy and for like playing with that on his mind like he's flying up there today to go see him for probably one of the last times and to put all that behind him and to finish the way he did birdie birdie eagle like that's a huge win for him and where he was on the standings in the fed you know all the stuff that really matters a ton your whole life until something like this happens um he's put himself in a great spot but dude it was
Starting point is 00:01:59 um i honestly just watching it i was having a hard time get through i don't know how he did it you know he we got back nine 28 to get it done to chase down matt coocher but it was like it's just it's one of the things like, you know what, this doesn't really matter. I'm just going to free it up and go out there and play the best I can and hit every shot for his good buddy John. And he did it, man. The Eagle on the last was incredible. Matt Coochard, Camillo Vajgas played fantastic.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Couture had a huge lead on Saturday, six shots at one point before a quad and a bogey coming in. He made a quad and two bogey's shot 67. But El Cardinal got torched. 27 under par. I mean, this place, Adam Long. Shout out, Adam Long. 56 of 56 fairways, which is incredible. We had 13 guys on Thursday, not miss a fairway.
Starting point is 00:02:43 I believe the fairways averaged around 60 yards wide. They had no win. 90% hit fairway rate. The field average. The field for the week. On tour this year, it's like 57, 58 is what it's been all year. 90 this week. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:02:56 But, you know, looking up some of the stuff, we use Justin Ray's stats all the time. The 56 for 56 was unbelievable. But then you go back to 1986, 1987. Calvin Pete did it in back-to-back years at the Memorial Muirfield Village Golf Club. 112 straight fairways. That's insane. That's disgusting.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Put Adam Long in the same conversation with Calvin Pete. Straightest drivers of the golf ball in the history. Actually, it was on a text with some of the guys before the week started, like Tuesday, Wednesday, that type of stuff. I was like, what's the course like telling me about it? Because nobody's really seen it, right? And there was a prediction from one player. He made two predictions. He's like, I got two.
Starting point is 00:03:31 If the wind does what they say it's going to do and not blow very much this week, someone's going to break 60 and he said also i'll bet you at least one player it doesn't miss a fairway the entire week and half of it came true yeah and it was adam long shout out 13 guys on thursday hit every single fairway yeah i mean dude day tors shit 27 under wins and that's what coocher going just going backwards hard on saturday late when he was i mean he could have gotten to 30 very easily but i mean the leaderboard looked like a 2015 leaderboard you pop up there like oh let me check out the golf oh camillo and matt coocher Like it was maybe even earlier than that crazy.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Yeah, you might have to go back even more than that. And then Van Roin was just kind of hanging around, hanging around, and then all of a sudden, bam. It was honestly a really, really cool ending to a tournament that I'm sure not a ton of people had circled like, I need to watch this. But if you were back and forth on Sunday between football like I was, watching the last few holes,
Starting point is 00:04:23 like it was a really good, really good ending. Yeah, it was. It was fun to watch. It was exciting coming down the stretch. That par 518 is a really cool hole to finish on. And Eric Van Roin makes the eagle and gets the dub and Cabo. what a great place i don't think really you can complain ever about being in cabo beautiful weather great tequila but there is no better tequila than sincoro which is what we got right here
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Starting point is 00:08:14 tour with us here today. Another Oklahoma State Cowboy just graduated off the Corn Ferry Tour, finishing 22nd on the points list. He's headed to the show. He is ready to plow. Kevin Doherty is in the house. KD. What's up, guys? Thank you. Thanks for having me on. I listen to every episode and just awesome to finally be with you, too, guys. God.
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Starting point is 00:09:00 Well, once again, Bo Hoffsler just gets screwed over. He was best dressed on our show. Not no Mo. Tough break, kid. Held the crown for a while. Going to need some new suede. Well, congratulations on the tour card. I know it's been a long time coming.
Starting point is 00:09:12 How you been celebrating since you got back to Dallas? Yeah, so kind of off the grid. We flew back Monday from Indiana. I was just in town for about a day and a half. and then some friends of ours have a ranch about an hour northeast of Sun Valley, Idaho. So we went up there for five days, and both of his sons drew some hunting tags, one elk, one deer. And so we went and did some hunting, and my wife and daughter got on some horses and just kind of got off the grid, no cell reception. So it was pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Oh, wow. It's beautiful. Yellowstone. What'd you get? What'd you kill? Yeah, so I didn't have a tag, so I couldn't shoot anything. So I was kind of more of the spotter and trying to come up with a plan. His 12-year-old son shot a bull elk, his first one, which is pretty cool, massive animal. And then his oldest son shot a white-tail buck as well.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Wow. What outdoors. Pool elk, yeah. You're big into the hunting. Yeah, no, I love it. Hunting and fishing or just hunting? Yeah, no, hunting and fishing. fishing kind of, I mean, anything outdoors that I can kind of just get away. I kind of learned it in
Starting point is 00:10:28 college up until my senior year of college, I'd never shot a gun. And I was living with three wrestlers, and one of them was a massive hunter, and dove season came around. And he put a shotgun in my hand, and ever since then, I kind of fell in love with it. What would you say your handicap in the hunting and fishing game is? I'm a better hunter than I am, like, fly. fisher um fly fish i'm honestly i'm gonna say i'm probably about an 18 handicap okay okay that's solid of all the Oklahoma state guys that are quote unquote outdoorsman who do you think is the best outdoorsman and who do you think is the worst outdoorsman i mean we all know we all think i mean dub thinks that he's the best i mean it's hard to believe the guy thinks the guy thinks he's
Starting point is 00:11:17 an angler and we were in college he'd have his fly rod practicing on the driving range oh man but i mean i'm i got to say dub's probably the best oh no god i was ready for him to be the worst i got to him i mean jesus he's better than me by far on the fishing side on the hunting shooting a bow shooting a rifle i'd say i got him for sure i felt like some of the oklahoma guys like go or Hayden Wood or somebody had to be better than dub. Yeah, he's from, he's from Cherry Hills. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:53 I don't think, I don't think Gooch has ever hunted in his life. Oh, what a fake Oklahoma guy. Yeah, it's like a prereq. It's like Georgia. You've got to be able to kill some shit for you going to go there. Yeah, I mean, Hayden, Golden Spooner, right out of Edmund North. Hell yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 00:12:07 There it is. Dig in, kid. Dig in. Hayden, for a guy that no one who listens to the show probably knows, he gets shit on on the show more than anybody. Poor Hayden Wood. He's little witty. It's because he takes it well.
Starting point is 00:12:19 He gave it back and he can take it. So I feel like that's a compliment. He takes it well. He's a great dude. So it's just. Edit the compliments out. Stick to just shit in all over the room. Yeah, we'll chop that.
Starting point is 00:12:30 We'll chop that. Well, what do you got? You've been doing a little hunting, a little fishing. What do you got for the next couple months before the season starts? You're going to chill out for a bit or are you right back at it? Yeah. I actually just took my clubs out of the case today. I'm going to go do a little practice and play a little game tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:12:46 out at my club here in Dallas. And then I'll probably just play some fun stuff. I'm going to play that Pebble Beach tournament in November. There's a couple other small little pro scratches. I'm playing one at Oak Tree National. I think it's in like a week and a half or two weeks. And just kind of some stuff like that to keep the game relatively sharp and just kind of be rested for a long season.
Starting point is 00:13:13 Sleys, I forgot to tell you, you're invited to the pro scratch at Oak Tree National. I just came to me. Oh, at Oak Tree? Yeah. Oh, really? With who? Well, it was going to be with me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:22 But I can't play, but they told me to tell you that you're still invited if you could get a pro. We would have destroyed. We would have. Oh, that's probably for the best. Basically, you're on the same. You showed up if we come in there. Kevin's on the same schedule as I am this winter. Just the fun pro scratch is the best tour.
Starting point is 00:13:36 The Pebble Beach tournament, which if people don't know, is one of the most fun weeks of the year. It's like all expenses paid for the pros to go out there, play Pebble, SpyGlash, Spanish, Bay and then if you happen to make the cut, which doesn't happen for me. Sunday, you get to play Pebble Beach again or you go home like I do. Perfect. It's a win-win. Have you got any good stories from Pebble dude? Oh, we're going to start that early. Yeah, just if you have any. Yeah. So I got a great, I got a great story and Colt, we were playing on Sunday a pebble, me, you, think it was Jared Wolf. Oh, I was playing good for a bit.
Starting point is 00:14:15 yep and then let's see we 10 11 12 it seemed like right as we hit our approaches on 12 like the wind started blowing 30 or 40 out of nowhere this is going you knew this yeah then what then what happened so so sleaze we get to 13 T-box we're not playing the US Open T-box like we're just playing kind of the T-box just to the left of 12 green who who who who's catting for you colt nobody i was in a golf cart sick i thought you asked someone what it was to cover that first bunker well probably one of y'all to that i was just dummy in that day it might have been and pretty sure it was in the what was it in the 220s maybe i think it was 233 but i mean to be fair it was freaking cold and blowing really hard and i knew i knew it was going to be
Starting point is 00:15:10 stress. Yeah, and then you just caught it off the toe. And right as it comes off the toe, you said, oh, no. And it did not cover that bunker. It's one of those bunkers. It doesn't get wrecked very often. It's like a decorative bunker. It'll make the whole pretty.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Yeah. Put it there. It's like an aiming bunker that no one ever hits it in. And sure enough, Colt hit it in it. And we were dying laughing. But to Colt's credit, he did beat me that week. So how about that? I got to get it.
Starting point is 00:15:41 I was also playing John Mallinger and a little side bet that Sunday because obviously we probably had a big Saturday night. And I was like 400 part through 8 and you can check the live scoring and Malinger's texting me stop cheating. I'm really four over. I just did that. That event is so fun, man. But the weather can be nasty.
Starting point is 00:15:59 I mean, that was nuts how that weather switched that day. It literally was blown 40 and dropped 30 degrees. Yeah. I mean, I think, I mean, normally that holds driver. some sort of half wedge. And I think I hit some midiron in there. But yeah, I mean, we played those last seven holes all pretty much straight into the teeth
Starting point is 00:16:22 or in off the left. Yeah, and you send it. What are you swinging it at right now? I know you're one of, if not the longest guys on the Corn Furry tour. What's your gamer speed? Yeah, probably, let's say anywhere from like 123 to 125, 126.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Same. Same. Yeah, that's cruiser. That's the cruising way. What if you just wanted to just anything, everything you got? What can you get to? Yeah, so there was about two years ago where I kind of started to do just a little bit of speed training just to kind of see what was in the bank.
Starting point is 00:16:57 And I think maybe the highest I got was 132, 133, like just over 200 ball speed. But, I mean, that's kind of not caring where the ball goes, just strictly trying to train for speed. That is fun. Sounds vicious. That's neat. You don't worry about the 233 covers, do you? Mm-mm. Not very often.
Starting point is 00:17:18 That is. You mentioned your club back home. I believe you play at Merido, right, in Dallas? I do. Yeah, Marito. Obviously, a lot of tour guys out there. One football analyst who likes to donate to everybody is also there. Give us some of the guys you play with normally.
Starting point is 00:17:30 What are the games like? Yeah, so kind of during COVID, I got pretty close with Zal Taurus. He always wanted to play. So I'd say I play with him the most when he was healthy. Martin Flores is one of my closest friends. We've traveled last couple of years together. And I mean, he's unbelievable. And then I started playing a little bit last couple of weeks with the Cootie brothers.
Starting point is 00:17:55 They're great. And then every once in a while, Davis Riley will come in and play with us, Taylor Moore. So it's always kind of an amazing, amazing time. and always have a great group to get some action. And then, yeah, like you said, Romo's out there and Pavelsky's out there who can absolutely go off his ball. Love Joe Pavelsky. He's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Slees, those games sound a little harder than playing the dentist, the real estate guy. Yeah, you got to get more shitty friends. My gosh, we used to have cool tour pro friends. Now we're like, hey, you real estate guy. What are you doing? I had caddied for a hockey guy out at Tahoe, Alex Kalorn, and we got paired with Joe Pavelsky on Saturday. He has a nice game.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Good. Unbelievable game. Yeah, and just solid dude and just I mean, you can tell that he's just a pure athlete. I mean, silky smooth
Starting point is 00:18:46 and they can go out and shoot three or four under any day. Be honest with Romo. Yeah. How many shots should he get and how many does he ask for?
Starting point is 00:18:56 I feel like he definitely tries to win the bet on the first tee every time. Yep. So he always asked for way more. I haven't played him in a little bit
Starting point is 00:19:07 is a football season, but I think his normal is like four, two and two maybe. That's respectful. I feel like you should handle him with that. On that golf course is so hard. At the home club,
Starting point is 00:19:24 it's, I mean, you'll get the better half of him for sure. But like, you take him to a tournament outside of Merido or Dallas National and I think you'd kind of dirt nap him with two and two every day.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Yeah. Yeah, two and two. That's a tough golf course, though, for, like, the difference between tour pros and regular dudes, like shows up on that golf course. With all those guys that are out there, all those tour pros, a lot of young good tour pros, too. Are you more of, like, a range guy work on it,
Starting point is 00:19:53 or do you enjoy, like, the money games during an off week? What do you do more of? Yeah, I'd say I've gravitated to playing more. I've kind of, let's see what year was it? It was the COVID year, so 2020, 20, 20, 20, I kind of got a little bit too into golf swing and shit I almost lost my card. I think I finished inside the top five or top ten last event to get inside the bubble. And after the year, we kind of had a team meeting and one of my coaches popped up and said,
Starting point is 00:20:25 hey, like it looks like you're playing golf swing instead of golf. So let's try to be more athletic. And ever since he kind of said that, I've been, have my main fundamentals that I always want to keep and check, but other than that, I'd like to go play, and I'm not going to try to chase a look of a certain golf swing or anything like that. I mean, I kind of think the foundation part of it is done, and now it's just fine-tuning and learning how to play better golf. Well, the good news is in today's game. You swing it over 120 miles an hour. That's going to work out all right for you. But, I mean, for those that don't know, like, you've had a couple of
Starting point is 00:21:01 just heartbreaking close calls to making it to the PGA tour, and you finally, you know, crossed that cross that finish line and you're headed to the PGA tour in 2024. You finished 22nd and this year top 30 got their PGA tour card. But what was it like those last few weeks? No one, I mean, the calls you had with the miscut at Victoria National, the almost chip in in Portland a couple of years ago that would have got your card. And you ended up finished 22nd, but you finished cut cut T65. What was the mind?
Starting point is 00:21:29 What was going through the mind those last few weeks of the season this year? Yeah, it was really hard to stay. it might sound cliche, but it was really hard to stay present. After Boise, I think I got to like that 900 point, and the tour told me that, hey, that's going to be good enough. So I'm trying to deal with this lifelong dream being accomplished of that first step of making it to the PJ tour. And it was pretty wild because the practice sessions
Starting point is 00:22:05 and the prep weeks, I had before those last three events were probably the best of my career. I could do anything I wanted to at the golf ball, and then it just felt kind of when I got on the grounds and going in the tournament, I just couldn't really get anything going. I was just over part early, and then I'd try to press. So it was just hard to kind of, I was almost trying to fast forward time just to Sunday of that ceremony. So I think it was a pretty good learning experience and trying to
Starting point is 00:22:43 figure out how to stay more present and just strictly like focus on the task at hand. Yep. That mind is a is an interesting interesting thing, but I mean you got it done. Congratulations to you. But given how close you'd been to tour cards in the past, now that you have it, do you feel like it's more a sense of joy or is it more of a sense of relief? Probably relief. I mean, I'm through the roof excited about teeing it up in Hawaii and just kind of going throughout the year. But it was kind of a little bit hard because everyone that I would talk to,
Starting point is 00:23:22 oh, you're made for the PJ Tour. Oh, your game's great for the PJ Tour. Like, you'll get there. And, I mean, I'm trying to do all the right things. And then I have these years. I finish 26. I finish 31st with a miscutting. I mean, so I'm just kind of starting to think, like, well, what else do I need to do?
Starting point is 00:23:41 Like, everyone's telling me I'm good enough. And so I think kind of having that monkey off my back has kind of been very freeing. Yeah, and I mean, you're 32 years old. So, I mean, you're still young, but relative to being a rookie on the PGA tour, you're not that young. And with the close calls, I mean, you go back, like I said, the chip in at Portland, you make that, it look like it was going to go in, you get your car. You made double bogey on the 36 hole to miss the cut at Victoria National. when you had a great chance to get your card. Was there ever any, like, doubt that crept in your mind, like, listen, maybe this
Starting point is 00:24:13 isn't for me. Like, maybe I should go do something else with all the close calls you have because we know, I mean, this game can drive you absolutely insane. Yeah. And I'm not going to be completely honest with you guys. And the year where it was that double year 2020, 2021, I was kind of just miserable out there. Like I said, I was playing.
Starting point is 00:24:37 golf swing. I felt like I was absolutely working my tail off and was just getting nothing out of it. And I remember we played Utah. I believe I missed the cut in Utah. I went back to my hometown in California and I was having lunch with my parents or just my dad and he's like, dude, what's going on? Like you don't seem like yourself. And I just told him like, I just, I don't know if I want to do this anymore and he kind of knocks some sense into me. He's like, come on, dude. Like, you have an amazing family. We support you. You have an amazing wife. You have everything going for you. Like, we all know this is really what you want to do. We know you can do it. Like, let's just try to get past this little downtime. And that kind of sparked me and kind of took some pressure off
Starting point is 00:25:32 me like I don't want to be failing them of whatever achieving this dream that I wanted and then kind of that next week I played good in Omaha and that kind of just gave me a little bit of resurgence is the hardest part I would think after the close calls that you've had a you have a like a good period of time off before you tee it up again and then once you do get back out there and get going again it's like damn man like I shouldn't even be here if I just you know made that cut or if I shot one one shot lower in portland like i wouldn't be here right now is it hard to get going for that next season yeah a little bit um i mean those feelings definitely kind of stick with you and then when you see whatever certain guys that either got in because it didn't go in or anything like that
Starting point is 00:26:21 and they get started up like you want to be with them um so i mean that's definitely kind of hard to deal with. But I mean, everyone has kind of their own journey. And I think you got to stay away from the kind of the woulda coulda shoot a game, especially in golf. That's awesome to see you persevere and make it through after those tough calls because it's not easy. And I mean, you're going to be a rookie on the PGA tour in 2024. You've played five PGA tour events so far. Is there an event you have circled on the calendar that you're most looking forward to? Oh, man. It's kind of hard. I think now with kind of the unknowing of the schedule of which ones we're going to get into.
Starting point is 00:27:02 I mean, San Diego would be definitely one of them, being only 45 minutes to an hour south of where I grew up. I mean, Riviera was my first PJ tour event. So that would be an amazing one to play really good early and get into. Yeah, I think anything in Southern California just to kind of be close to home. All right, some big news here from Subpar. we have officially launched our own YouTube page. Make sure to subscribe at Golf underscore Subpar on YouTube.
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Starting point is 00:27:47 Back to the show. Do you think, and I, like you mentioned this earlier, like you had friends telling you like, dude, your game's perfect for the PGA tour. I would agree with that. Knowing the courses that are played on the Corn Ferry Tour, there's a lot of country clubs. I would imagine guys like you don't get to hit driver all that often.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Now you're heading to a tour where that is probably the number one most important club in your bag. Do you think your success on the PJ Tour could be even greater than on the Corn Ferry Tour, given the type of golf courses you're going to play? Yeah, definitely. I mean, you see majority of the guys that do amazing things out there. They all drive the ball. Incredible. I mean, look at Dustin.
Starting point is 00:28:25 look at John Rom, I mean, Rory, there's endless guys that drive the ball amazing and have success. And, I mean, if you can start to carry some crossbunkers that whatever, 70% of the field can't, I mean, it's just going to give you a massive advantage. And compared to some of the country clubs are shorter courses that we would play on the corn ferry where 28, 29 under wins where it kind of just turns into a putting contest because you hit, four iron to the corner and then a wedge on and then kind of putt. So I definitely, I'm excited to kind of see how my game matches up for sure. Would you say there's anybody out there like one of the top players in the world like that you think your game kind of compares to? That's a good question.
Starting point is 00:29:14 I definitely think driving is one of my strengths. So I'd like to say that I drive it up there with Dustin or Rory drives it extremely well. Those are two good ones. They're solid players. Dustin's kind of always been, other than some of my close buddies, like Dustin's kind of been a guy that I look up to. I like his demeanor on the course.
Starting point is 00:29:42 He seems like nothing kind of phases him and he kind of just goes about his business. So I'd love to kind of do what he did, just drive it great and kind of, of the wedge areas kind of an area that I believe I need to get quite a bit better at. I'm trying to figure out what works best for me with off-speed wedges. Just having so much speed, it's a little tough. So almost having that third number with my wedge is kind of what I need to perfect,
Starting point is 00:30:14 just to when we get windy conditions and flight it down into softer greens if we have that. So I'd kind of like to make that jump like Dustin did when he's. started working on his wedges. Yeah, he got pretty damn good. And given that you play at Marito, you've got friends that have been on tour, you play with all those guys, do you think kind of the shock or the deer in the headlights feel that a lot of rookies have on the PJ tour won't be there for you? Yeah, I mean, I definitely think it helps.
Starting point is 00:30:42 I mean, playing, like Zaltoros went on that amazing run, and then shortly after we were playing together, and Taylor Moore gets his win, and then we play whatever nine holes together. So, yeah, it almost just feels like. like kind of you're playing with your buddies. I think some pairings would be obviously more pressure-filled or starstruck a little bit. I've been lucky enough. I've played with ROM once.
Starting point is 00:31:08 I've never played with Rory. So I think on the weekend somehow get paired with those guys. I mean, I think definitely I would feel it there. But then that's just an amazing opportunity to play with some of the best guys in the world. And you're from Muriata, California. as is Ricky Fowler. What's your relationship like with him? Obviously, you both went to Oklahoma State. Yeah, he's like a brother to me. We met, let's see, he was, he was a freshman in high school, I believe when we first kind of started to be around each other at Bear Creek, and we just kind of
Starting point is 00:31:45 were very close and played and practiced quite a bit together. And he's actually the way I met my life. they were next-door neighbors, so whenever I started hanging out with Ricky, Lindsay was around as well. They grew up together, and yeah, he's been amazing. He's extremely supportive and, I mean, just willing to help in any way. We text quite a bit and maybe not on a weekly basis, but every couple weeks. And anything that I need and questions or anything like that, he's always there with kind of open arms to help.
Starting point is 00:32:23 He's about as good of a dude as there is out there. And I know he helped you kind of land at Oklahoma State, but you could have gone to a lot of other places and been like the guy and not gone to a loaded Oklahoma State team and kind of had to work your way over the years into the lineup. What made you want to go to OSU as opposed to going maybe somewhere in California and playing right away? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:42 So when Ricky, let's see, Ricky was a freshman Oklahoma State. So I would have been a junior in college. I kind of just wanted to go out there and hang out for a week. I mean, I've never really stepped on foot to a college campus. And I was like, let's go out there. And I just absolutely fell in love with it, which I'm sure is hard for a lot of people to believe. I mean, it's still water. Oklahoma, it's 45,000 people in 25,000 school.
Starting point is 00:33:11 It's like a cow town. But, I mean, it's an ultimate college town. and I just, I think I saw the value in Carston Creek and the coaching staff and just the repertoire of players that were there. I knew that it was going to be hard to play. Like, I knew what I signed up for, but I figured that being around people who are better than me and beat me, I'm going to have to figure out how to get better and learn from them. Who all was on that team? Go through the list of guys that are having success
Starting point is 00:33:48 in the pro ranks that you played with at some point at OSCE. Yeah, so it was Peter Uline, Taylor Gooch, Morgan Hoffman, Kevin Tway, Wyndham Clark, Jordan Kneebruggey. I think that was it. And Hayden. I never played with Hayden. I think he came in right after my fifth year.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Oh, okay. That's a squad. That's a squad. Who would you room with while you were there? You room with a bunch of the golfers, didn't you? He said, wrestler. Yeah, that was later on, I think. Yeah, the first, let's see, my first year I was with Sean Einhaus from Germany,
Starting point is 00:34:30 Trent White Killer, and Brad Gale, who was a freshman who came in with me. And then my second year, I lived with Bernhard Neumann. He was from Germany, and then my third year, I lived with Morgan. And then senior year, my fourth year I lived with Gooch, Drew Page, who's now doing the Scottie Cameron rap on tour. Deepa. And then, yep. And then Brad Gale. And then my last year, I lived with three Oklahoma State wrestlers.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Damn, you all got a squad down there. And then the wrestling program is not too shabby at Oklahoma State either. Yeah, it's impressive. John Smith, who's the head coach, Olympic gold medalist. I mean, he does an amazing job. You ever mix it up with the boys back at the crib, figure it out? Who's the alpha? I was smarter than that to even try.
Starting point is 00:35:25 I mean, they're trained assassins. Is that when you got into the fitness? Like, you're known for just crazy fitness, diet, all that stuff. Is it the wrestlers that got you into that or was it before that? It was before that. It was, let's see, it was my sophomore year, so my red shirt freshman year. the second semester, I was having back issues, kind of out of nowhere. Like, I'd have some lower left back issue, and like I felt it only hitting drivers,
Starting point is 00:35:56 and then it got to a point where mouse hitting wedges and it was still hurt. So went in MRI, and there was a, they called a pars fracture, which is pretty much a stress fracture in my L5. Not exactly sure what caused it, but ever since that day, I'm like, This sucks. I don't ever want to be heard again. So I've pretty much, I transformed my eating, fitness since, what would that have been? That would have been 2010, 2011. So going on 12, 13 years of strictly doing everything I can to make my body move and feel the best it can. Well, take us through this diet because, you know, in a day where a lot of people have
Starting point is 00:36:39 nutrition bars, peanut butter and jellies on the course, like, I know you make all your, for the most part, make all your own food for even on the golf course. But what's your diet like? Yeah, so I work with a guy in Encinitas. His name is Robert Yang. And I found him because I was kind of at first, I was researching it on my own. And nowadays, like, you look on the internet and you type in one thing and Monday, this comes up, and you type in the next thing on Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:37:06 And it's something else. It contradicts it. So, I mean, it got to a point where I was only eating like a very, very limited style of foods. I mean, very repetitive. I was like, oh, this isn't quite, I mean, I don't believe this is like the right way to go. So I reached out to Rob and his philosophy is very simple. Pretty much protein fat and fiber. So protein in the form of animal. Like every animal I will eat best quality. So grassbed, finished cows, pasture raised chicken, wild fish, you all kind of get the point.
Starting point is 00:37:43 And then fruits, vegetables, and then all the carbs that I eat are kind of around my workout, white rice, sweet potatoes. And then it's just all, it's as clean as possibly. Organic, local farms. I have some here in Dallas that I'll pick up and stuff like that. And it's been incredible. And then just kind of as the years have gone on, I've just fine-tuned it a little bit. So I'd say the last two to three years, I've only stayed in Airbnb's so I could cook my own food so I can kind of control everything that goes into it. Like I won't eat anything that's cooked in vegetable oil or canola oil or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:38:26 So bacon fat, grass-fed butter, beef tallow, or kind of low heat, I'll use olive oil. So that's kind of the premise of how I eat. Like us. Well, like us. Where does Red Bull? Chick-fil-A? Fit into this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:43 And Chipotle. How do those fit into the mix? Let me ask you this. I'm curious, like, what's an on-course snack for you like? Because obviously, I mean, some days you play in the morning, some days in the afternoon. But like with your how strict you're eating is, I mean, I'm very curious to know, like what an encore snack is like. Yeah, so I make it pretty easy. So I'll just make enough.
Starting point is 00:39:03 So whenever I get home from the chorus, whatever. whatever I have for dinner, I'll just make enough to where I'll have enough for the course the next day. So something easy to eat. Like on the road, I do a lot of ground meat. So I'll do ground beef or ground bison, something like that. And then just do pretty much baked sweet potatoes and cut them up real small. And then put in some sort of roasted vegetable. It's just kind of easy to eat with a fork.
Starting point is 00:39:31 And I travel with a couple Tupperware and put it in that and plop a plop a few. fork in the bag and keep it in the fridge until we leave for the golf course and then it's good pretty much throughout the day so damn that's hard to do on the corn frie though you're not staying in big cities where you can pop like you got to do it all yourself and cook that's a lot of hours and probably a lot of money on that tour to stay disciplined of that yeah and I just figured over the course of the year I'm going to feel better so if I just put a little extra money towards kind of what I'm going to eat. I mean, even if it just helps me think that it's making me play better,
Starting point is 00:40:09 it's going to help me. So it was kind of just something that I was willing to accept. Respect. No cliff bar are uncrustable for Kevin Doherty. A cliff bar, I feel like I'm the world's cleanest eater. I'm like, look at me, dude. Cliff bar. What a fucking guy.
Starting point is 00:40:24 That's incredible. Before we get to E.9, I want to ask one question. I want you to finish this sentence. Kevin Doherty's rookie season will be successful. If I wedge it well and play extremely free. Don't try to control everything. All right. I like it.
Starting point is 00:40:50 We're going to hold you too. No results, not results oriented. Just wedges and play free. Yep. I mean, shit, how do you not play free when you swing in a hundred and you swing in 130? I just get up on every hole, be like, I'm about to fucking sit. Who cares?
Starting point is 00:41:04 It's going to be closer to the hole than everybody else's. Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, I just think sometimes when things aren't going the way I think they should be going, I try to control everything in this game. I try to check every single box that, I mean, all of us know that in golf there's not a lot you can control. There's only a few things. And then you just kind of roll with the punches. Yeah, we've done all the right things in your work ethic.
Starting point is 00:41:33 People speak extremely highly of. So I'm glad you're out there. You're where you belong. and I feel like you're going to stay out there for a long time. All right. Let's get to the E9. Let's have some fun here. Should we go option A or B for the first E9?
Starting point is 00:41:45 Let's just give them both and see which one he wants to, which one. Okay. He's happily married. She's not going to get mad about the other one. Okay, we go back and forth between two questions here. One, you can trade places with anyone. Dead or alive, anyone in the history of time, who would it be? And then B, who's your celebrity crush?
Starting point is 00:42:03 Oh, celebrity crush. Margo Robbie Oh shit Yeah Disgusting Good one God she What do you find attractive about her
Starting point is 00:42:13 What is it My wife went and saw the Barbie movie with a couple of her girlfriends And I found out that Margot Robbie was Barbie And I asked her if I can come That's a good Good husband and good dad
Starting point is 00:42:30 Kudos to you For biting the bullet What a guy And then if you If you could trade places for one day with anyone in history, feel what it's like. Anyone in history? John doesn't. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Yeah, that'd be. There's a lot of shit coming his way, though. Maybe Chris Kyle, to be honest with you. Oh, wow. Oh, nice. Yeah, he's obviously a Texas guy. And I mean, I'm a huge supporter of our armed forces and everything like that. And just kind of seeing his journey through just simply watching the movie,
Starting point is 00:43:14 American Sniper was amazing. And obviously he's the greatest of all time at his craft and job. And just kind of to see that elite level would be pretty eye-opening to see it from his point of view. Wow, that's a cool answer and definitely the first. That's a thoughtful answer. I respect that. Very well thought out. You're going to need to be thoughtful on this next one, Kevin.
Starting point is 00:43:38 And I think you'll know where I'm going here. But between you, Wyndham Clark and Taylor Gooch, who do you think would make the best CEO of Charmin? Windham. Can you explain? Easy. He was so soft in college. It was unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:43:56 What's the CEO of Charming? What's y'all's little inside thing? Charmin's soft. Yeah. Yeah, we just like, whenever, whenever someone would let, dub just let girls just run his life in college there we go there we go they'd just put him on a leash and walk him around the neighborhood
Starting point is 00:44:16 and gooch goch was a dog like yeah wind him love it there we go I don't want to bag on wind him too much don't don't feel bad at all I don't I do like Wyndum
Starting point is 00:44:33 and he's the U.S. Open champ but I love the saying you know, so and so would get stuck in a corner and a round room. So who would you say that saying would apply more to? Kevin Tway or Wyndham Clark? Can I say both? They both be in the same corner. They just run into each other over and over.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Just because I think for different reasons. I think old Wyndham would overthink it. And like the door would be right there. But he'd be like, oh, that's not. the way out and he tried to figure out a different way. I mean, the kid was so talented in college, it was unbelievable. And, yeah, I mean, we all, Tway is just... He is special.
Starting point is 00:45:19 He couldn't get out because it's Kevin. Because it's tricky, because it's a round room. Oh, Kev, I love him. I love him. Me and Gary Woodland used to call him Todd from Wedding Crashers. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's what everyone called him. We started that for the record. He's special.
Starting point is 00:45:36 We love you, Kev. I think Kev's thinking about moving to Dallas. Really? Wow. There you go. Some more easy money for you, battle for. Yeah, it's a tough club championship. I love K-2i.
Starting point is 00:45:51 All right, I'll give you one here. This is a bit of a thinker, Cav. Taco Bell, they come to you. They want to be one of your sponsors for next year. But part of the deal is you have to eat a nacho cheese chalupa at the turn of every round you play during the year. How much money? would they have to offer for you to take that deal?
Starting point is 00:46:09 Ooh. I have to eat the whole thing? Yeah, dude. They need it on camera to show how much you'd love the bell. You're going to feel great. And you probably get a deal with dude wipes right after. I think, oh, man. They'd have to guarantee me top 70 in the year.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Whatever that money is. That's a good number right now. Okay, Taco Bell. falls in your court. The way things are turning, that might be like 10 million soon. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:46:44 I mean, those eight digits. And through the roof. Yeah. Okay. All right. Staying on the same subject, give me the ultimate,
Starting point is 00:46:51 I don't even know if you do cheat ever, but give me the ultimate cheat meal for Kevin Doherty. Yeah. I mean, I don't really crave it anymore, but when I do, I mean, it'd have to be like an unbelievable New York style pizza.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Okay. Like, thin crust. It sounds like a Tuesday. Sounds like a meal. Yeah. Sounds like a, yeah. I'd definitely say, I mean, that would be, that would be kind of my last, my last meal. I love Italian food.
Starting point is 00:47:20 We actually just went to Carbone for our three-year anniversary. It's opened up here in Dallas, and that was quite the treat. Spicy rigatoni at Carbone. A journey hard to beat. We got that, yep. Yep. I'm going there Saturday in Vegas. You are?
Starting point is 00:47:36 Yeah. Yeah, the Vegas one's terrific. With the legend, Bobby Wade, shout out Bobby Wade. Be Wade in the house. God, he's a beauty. He's buying, too. You got to get the Carpaccio. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:47 I like the Carpaccio. I just don't like onions. So I got to get the onions off of it. It's a problem for me. Yeah, dude. We're disciplined eaters. Yeah. You don't know what it's like.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Put that trash in our body, bud. Finally tuned machine. All right, next one for me. You're going to have to go back a little bit on this one. But no matter how much money you go on to win on tour, will there ever be a time where you, feel like you have more generational wealth than when you won the plantation pro scratch. No, I felt like I won the lottery.
Starting point is 00:48:19 I mean, it was the greatest part was I don't think anyone else bet on our team except for us. And who is your partner? That's exactly right. Yeah, it was Windham. Which was unbelievable. I mean, I was a couple of years out of college just playing a little, many tours and i mean windham would mop the floor with me and he was still in college
Starting point is 00:48:43 and he was my amateur it was unbelievable i got an unbelievable story about that if you want to hear it we need it all of course and by the way this is why i stopped playing the plantation because there's teams like that you do that team came in i played that nobody knew like who windom was more or less and the other pros are like freddie and phil like who are you betting on you know i mean they came in won everything one skins
Starting point is 00:49:06 paramutual, no one else bad on them, they cleaned. Yeah, so I think we shoot 62 the first day, 10 under, and I think we were staying with Ricky that week at Madison Club, and Phil invited everyone over to dinner at Madison Club. So, I mean, it's this unbelievable dinner. There's probably, I don't know, 20 people. You got Phil, Malley, couples, Sean O'Hare.
Starting point is 00:49:37 I mean, Slees, you were there. You were giving it to Sean O'Hare. Oh, yeah. He likes to do that. He had a good evening that night. Yeah, so great evening. And somehow a bet between me and Windham and Freddie and his partner gets brought up. I think Max brought it up.
Starting point is 00:49:59 And it was three separate bets. They get three shots, five shots, seven shots. I think it was like a hundred bucks a bed or something like that. And I think Homa and Malley had side action on it. And me and Windham go out and we shoot 59 the second day. Freddie shot even ball. I haven't seen the money. Oh, Freddy.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Whoa. Boom, boom. With interest rates where they are now, that's a big number. So circling back, I was talking to Windham during the Rider Cup week. I said, hey, man, go enjoy an amazing week. And I said, tell Freddie to send over that 300 and make sure you get paid as well. And he goes, yeah, you introduce himself like he's never met me before. Love that.
Starting point is 00:50:54 Oh, that's beautiful. Oh, man. But, no, it was good. We got to get that 300 for you from Boom, Boom. That's bad for him. All right. Next one, we talked about how you're a big hunter. In your PJ Tour bio, it says Aspirations of Owning.
Starting point is 00:51:08 a hunting lodge. Okay, people ask all the time your dream for some of golf. I want to know your dream for some of PGA tour players on a hunting trip. Oh. I mean, I know I'm trying to think some of the guys that I hang around with aren't massive hunters. It doesn't have to be golfers. It can be any three other people you want to go on a hunting trip with. All right.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Charlie Saxon. He's a master. of hunter great guy my coach uh e j fister he's one of the ones that also got me into hunting um and then yeah it's i mean got to be kevin cosner full out full yellowstone outfit him or rip i would say oh rip would be probably a little more protective yeah rips an assassin yeah so are you are you big time into that show i'm guessing i'm not watched it it. I don't really watch a ton of shows. I don't have a ton of time, especially now with our one and a half year old daughter. I'm always chasing her around, but it's, I mean, it's a cool
Starting point is 00:52:22 show that's a little, almost a little too Hollywood, I think. That's fair. And you're too busy cooking. Yeah, not enough time. There's only so many hours in the day. All right, last one from me. Okay, I need to know who was the criminal mastermind Behind the theft of the OSU Media Center backdrop That ended up at your house and also on Twitter Gooch was the first criminal So he was there during summer school, I think just taking some classes Because he was living in Oklahoma
Starting point is 00:52:54 And up at our Athletic Center for all the athletes go and do their work there on this table there was these media center backdrops and one had like writing all over it so gooch just thought hey like obviously there's just going to waste so he just took them because we didn't have curtains for our house so like just absolutely jimmy rigging something and it looked awesome I mean everyone that came over for parties like looked sweet fast forward a couple weeks Ricky comes into town and one of the kids on the team had like never met Ricky
Starting point is 00:53:34 was a massive fan so we're having people over one night sure enough they're like this hand in hand getting a picture with the media deals behind them and who put it uptoes it
Starting point is 00:53:49 uploads it to the world me and Groot's try to deny it didn't end up well what hard to believe you got caught What was the punishment? We actually got, I got, Gooch got suspended for two events. I got suspended for one, but I was like, no, like if he's getting two, I'm doing two. So I was trying to stick it to him.
Starting point is 00:54:14 But so, yeah, we got two suspended tournaments. And then we had endless amounts of our punishment workout called the gauntlet at Oklahoma State. I've heard about those. Got in trouble asking one player about those one time. Turned into a bit of a thing, apparently. Yeah. Not going to bring that up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Sorry. Plan was sound. Plan was sound. Just the internet probably decreases the chance of success if not getting caught. Less than that's a harsh, two tournaments. That's a hard. I mean, you only played 10, 12 a year. That's,
Starting point is 00:54:46 damn, that's harsh. I didn't know he thought they were done with it and they had rioting on it. I thought he literally jacked it off of the, like, actual background. Oh, no, no. Yeah, it was like, it was pretty innocent. And, yeah, there was like, I mean, it was literally like pen scribbled on it. So, I mean, yeah, they're done. They were done.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Oh, way more reasonable than I thought. Yeah. Okay. Last one for me. You're going to go into a little fitness competition with one of the PGA tour players. Who's the guy you want to go up against the least? Who would terrify you in one of these fitness competitions? Jamie Lovemark is an absolute unit.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Oh, okay. I know I know Stalling I don't I've never met Staling's but I know he's a massive workout guy he's a little I think he's kind of into CrossFit like that style of programming which those workouts are crazy intense so I probably definitely I wouldn't want to touch that because I'm more I love to train but I want to be as functional as possible yeah probably I mean a straight lifting I think Lovemart's probably the strongest
Starting point is 00:56:02 I mean he looks like a cornerback in the NFL he's a big dude yeah he's a big boy got some big mitts on him too we're built different yeah you guys get that a lot never been mistaken for Jamie Lovemark I'm honest me it's cold guys I love it kev well man we're so happy for you
Starting point is 00:56:20 congrats on under your PGA tour card and I cannot wait to see you out at Pebble Beach I'm gonna get on the stack system so I can cover that bunker on a 13 this year. Yes, it's going to be amazing. Every time I go back to Pebble, I mean, you're literally going to be my first thought when I step on that tee. There should be a plaque in that bunker.
Starting point is 00:56:38 You never look at that bunker and not be like, you guys want to hear something? See that thing? I might go out. I might find out your tea times and go ride a plaque. So when you get to 13, you see it. I'm going to smash it over that thing this year. Put something up there, dude. We're so proud of you.
Starting point is 00:56:52 We're so happy for you, man. Kev, enjoy it. Get rested up and go kill them out there. next year, man. Thank you guys. We'll see y'all shortly. All right, that was Kevin Doherty, joining us on subpar. By the way, I knew he was going to bring up that T-shot on 13 Sleeves, and I can't tell you. I got to come to my defense a little bit here. I believe it was like 242 to cover, and the wind, it dropped about 30 degrees, started blowing about 30, and I'm like, I got stressed getting over this bunker out here.
Starting point is 00:57:18 There's nowhere in the world where the ball goes shorter than the Monterey Peninsula when it's cold. I mean, dude, I'll get up there. It'll be like a four mile an hour wind in, 150 of like you think it's playing you think it's playing 210 i mean dude it goes nowhere up there so nothing nothing to be too ashamed of by i played with him martin flores and one other guy who they were all going to the pj tour at the time this was two years ago and i just recently quit slash retired and i dummied these three fools but the one thing they bring up is that bunker which i knew i was going to have problems and there's probably going to be this year i go out there next week by the way there's probably going to be a plaque or sign down there at that plaque down at one point colt knows
Starting point is 00:57:56 did not cover this buck. I didn't. I didn't. I did to a bug. It's okay. Everyone booges that hole anyways. By the way, he and Windham at the plant pro scratch, now looking back on it, he brought Wyndham out when Windham, nobody knew what Windham was.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Just some college kid and they bodybagged everybody at that plant pro scratch. And now looking back on it's like, yeah. They should. Pretty good team. But, I mean, I was like with Ricky Fowler and Phil's in the field and just all, Freddie, all these dudes out there. And like, legitimate, because there's a bunch of big names in that thing, as you know. Nobody bet on Kevin and Windham.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Like, who are these kids? You know, mistake. And they cleaned up, I mean, every skin, day money, you name it. They walked out of there. And I was talking to Windham, but I was like, dude, we had this envelope full of cash. We got in the car and we're like, oh, my, we have arrived. It is on. It's an NCAA violation.
Starting point is 00:58:45 That's probably some sort of violation. Go back, strip them of everything. They also did steal the banner, the media banner at OSU. And then posted it on social media. Shocking, they got caught and disciplined for that. You know, Oklahoma State, it's not the highest academic school, nor high standards and academic. A lot of talent, not a lot of great decision-making, but on a serious note out. They did be a year, though. Shout out in the last bedroom.
Starting point is 00:59:06 We're getting to that here shortly. But shout out to Kevin Doherty, who's a guy that, like, I mean, in all honestly, Ricky Fowler helped him get, you know, to Oklahoma State. He wasn't one of these world beaters, juniors like they have. And he was on a team with just killers, just dudes. And he just worked his way, got better, better, better. And I truly believe his game is better suited for the PJ Tour, hit as hard as you can. wedge it putt it than it is for the cornfrey tour there's a lot of those courses around the
Starting point is 00:59:28 midwest where like he's not pulling driver ever and he can he'll be one of the longest guys on the pjutor next year what do you say 128 mile an hour club yeah and he can get it more if he wants he's had some heartbreak i mean he's finished 26 the couple of times been so close to see him get out there on the pjutor i'm excited he could do big things um so we wish him the best look and the chip at portland where you had to hold it i mean and it hung on the lip it's just like dude he's had heartbreak after heartbreak he has earned this pjure card Shout out to Kevin Dory and just a great dude. Speaking of heartbreak, my Dallas Cowboys lost a brutal one to the Eagles.
Starting point is 01:00:01 I want to talk about it. Nobody wanted to win that thing. No one our coaching stuff wears thongs though. That's true. Can you believe it? I mean, what are we doing? I mean, the dude's like, yeah, I'll just wear the thong. No one will notice.
Starting point is 01:00:11 I'm never on TV. I'm just a normal dude sitting over here. All of a sudden, bam, train wreck. You fall down and you get up. And they're screenshoting it. And they're like, what is this? And he's saying it's not. I'm like, if it's not, then tell me what that is.
Starting point is 01:00:22 That's a thong, dude. Bright red. That's a man thong, bright red. Embarrassing. I'll probably get some deals out of this. But congrats to the Eagles. It was a hell of a game. It was very exciting.
Starting point is 01:00:30 One of the best games of the year so far, in my opinion. I thought we were going to steal one there at the end. But you know what? It's on to the next week. We're fine. I'm feeling very confident when we play them again later this year in Dallas. That was good football across the board this weekend from Saturday and Sunday. Good games.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Shout out. Thank God before we get to our picks. And we'll get to the football picks to the Washington Huskies because I did not have what you would call a successful week of gambling. And if it wasn't for those beautiful purple bastards up in Seattle, saved my life. Thank you. Got some messages about it. I don't have to sell my house now. Okay, good. I'm close. It's good news. The Texas Longhorns let me down. They were cruising. Kay State came storming back. Actually, had a chance to win the game in overtime,
Starting point is 01:01:10 went for it on fourth and goal instead of trying to push it to double overtime. And missed a chippy. Yeah. 27, 29 yarder with like a minute and a half left. I'm a longhorn fan. I root for them. I think they're a very good team. They could possibly make the college football playoffs. I'm sad they didn't cover it, but I'm glad they won just to keep this whole their chances alive. Well, they got a little help from the boys in Norman. Yeah. Yeah. Beating them. That's interesting. But let's get to a football pick before we get to the Bermuda championship. Stay on it. Football, the biggest game of the week. There's two huge games. We got Georgia Ole Miss and we got Michigan Penn State. Finally Michigan plays someone.
Starting point is 01:01:47 They finally played somebody. They're five and a half point favorites. They got a lot of shit going on up there Ann Arbor, but I think they're going to rally. Just heard they had Rick Flair in to give them a little motivational speech. Nothing gets you more hype than, whoo, Rick Flair. Oh, that'll be 100 grand. Yes. That's got to be the whole speech. So give me the Wolverines minus five and a half.
Starting point is 01:02:06 They obviously know their signs already. First real test. That's going to be a fun one to watch since. I mean, last time they played a real team, we saw what happened. It was right here down the road in Glendale. But they are rallying around this whole sign stealing scandal, which, by the way, I think every team in the United States does. All right.
Starting point is 01:02:22 On to mine. Staying on topic here. Oklahoma State, as you're well aware, just won what could be the last bedlam. We don't know what it'll happen going. Which sucks ass. That needs to be made a non-conference game every year going forward. Like, we got to keep these rivalries.
Starting point is 01:02:35 That's why it makes football great. At least Texas and OU will keep playing. But they are rolling. They're going to be getting a lot of love around campus this week, which is always a bit of a iffy situation. But they're going to Central Florida this next week. They're only minus two in a hook. And, I mean, dude, they're playing for Big 12 championship game.
Starting point is 01:02:52 They got a lot on the line still. I think they were starting off two and two. Now they've won out since then. They're looking like a different team. I got to think they cover the two and a half down in Central Florida. Keep that thing rolling. Oki State minus 2.5. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:03:05 They lost like South Alabama a few weeks ago at home. They got destroyed by them. Like couldn't score a point. They're a totally different team. They were in shambles and now they're rolling and believing they look good. Well, two events left on the 2023 schedule for the PJ tour, two events to keep your job or improve your job status. and we are headed to Bermuda, not the strongest field in the world.
Starting point is 01:03:25 Adam Scott is headlining, which shocks me that he's playing there. But hey, it's a beautiful place. For me, my favorite, going with a pass champ. This is one of the shortest golf courses on the PGA tour, so length is not a big deal. It's under 7,000 yards. The wind can blow like all hell out there. And like I said, pass champ, he tends to thrive on short golf courses.
Starting point is 01:03:44 16 to 1. Give me Brendan Todd. Okay, be Todd. Roll the rock, be Todd. Yeah, the yardage is short, but like you get these winds that come up. and it plays nothing like what they might say 420 on the card. And it's like, dude, this thing's playing 490. But I'm going with the guy.
Starting point is 01:03:58 He loves these tropical, windy, grainy type of venues. He won in the Bahamas on the corned ferry tour. Runner up in Puerto Rico, which got him, his special PJ Tour membership. He's going off at 18 to 1 this week. Give me Akshay Batia. Likes these environments. Has played well historically in his long career. Hopefully he doesn't get blown over.
Starting point is 01:04:20 He's going to need some ankle. weights. All right, my dark horse. Basically, I'm taking him because I saw him at Whist Brock the other day. That's enough. Yeah. Had a really solid season out on the PGA tour, Northwestern Wildcat, probably the best Northwestern Wildcat golfer we know are associated with. Oh yeah, I don't know any that I can think of off the top. But give me Dylan Wu at 45 to 1. That's a Rick Flare. Give it to him. There he is. That's what you got to do when he makes tweets when you get out there this year. I like that. By the way, you're picking dark courses. I saw this guy four days ago. But Cross my mind.
Starting point is 01:04:52 I like him. I made shudder best than that based on information and we'll continue to do so. My long shot, I'm basing it on virtually nothing because he's coming off a miscut in Cabo. No really recent form to speak of that would lead me to believe this. But I'm just going for like good odds on a guy of this talent level. Give me Davis Riley, 40 to 1. He's right in the pocket and like, yeah, didn't play good last week. Maybe that's a little inspiration.
Starting point is 01:05:15 But in terms of names down at these odds, he's the best talent. Beautiful golf swing. great caddy and James Edminton. I like Davis Riley a lot. All right, man. Well, that was a lot of fun. Make sure once again go to Fairway Jockey, pick you up some merch, YouTube, like, subscribe, all that.
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